30 year olds in the 80s- "I think I can afford that really nice house." 30 year olds in the 2020s- "I don't think I can afford that really nice mouse."
To the youth that check replies in this comment. Get into the trades if you're not able to get into tech. Both the welder and the electrician I grew up with own their homes. Currently, over 30 in 2024.
I am confuse whether or not that kind of mouse is wireless. They don't directly attached to my PC but still have some cable left on its back. I also kinda hate them because the DPI setting is generally too high for my taste, they slide away everytime I tried to hold it.
The only consistent issue I have had with mice regardless of brand is the scroll wheel eventually always starts acting up. Where you scroll down and occasionally it doesn't detect it or scrolls up instead. It's pretty annoying.
Cheaper ones use a mechanical rotary encoder in them. Good ones use optical, really fancy ones (I may have splurged) I presume use magnetic hall encoders or similar and have a magnetic fluid that they vary the resistance with as you scroll the wheel. You can literally program the entire force curve for the detent of the wheels rotation. Not just soft or hard, like literally a curve so you can make it snap or squish into the detents. And program how many detents you have! What a time to be alive. I only got this after my $30 Microsoft mouse had the rubber of the wheel actually peel off entirely after a decade of use.
I'm surprised you didn't mention ergonomics; it's a complex field with a lot of variables, but getting a mouse that fits your hand and grip style can make a mile of difference in comfort. Also, long term, it reduces your risk of hand pain. And honestly, I think you undersold the value of materials and build quality; they're not really quantifiable metrics, but they make a huge difference in the general feel of using your computer.
definitely, they showed the logitech mx mouse that I use at work, I love how it feels but I couldn't give up my Razer Naga mouse because of the MMO buttons.
So many expensive mice have horrible ergonomics while there are plenty of cheaper offerings that lead to less strain on certain hands. I'm a trackball guy, and honestly the perfect design for my mitts is the entry-level Kensington Orbit with Scroll Wheel. It would be even better if they didn't nerf it by only giving it two buttons so you'd go out and buy the Expert or Slimblade (or if they were willing to license out the patent on the scroll ring), but that's just business, I guess. 🤷
@@GSBarlev I've been using a logitech g703 since 2020 and after going through 2 of them in the 3 years (double click issue), i tried the doubly expensive g-pro ultralight and hated the ergonomics. I switched back to my $70 g703 and now i pretty consistently expect about ~2 years out of each mouse.
TBH though, this seems to be an increasingly bad reason to spend extra, you might find yourself stuck buying something expensive to fit your hand but there's a range of cheap Chinese ergonomic mice that are great quality for the rest of us. I bought a GPX "clone" that's almost identical in shape, but it's lighter, has drastically more battery life and the clicks all feel much higher quality; won't catch me shelling out for another Logitech mouse anytime soon.
Used to buy mouses about 20-30 € and they lasted me around 1-2 years max. Bought mouse for 70-80 € and never would back to cheaper models :). 3 years and counting...
I recently checked my older mouse, that I got without research. Man it's terrible compared to glorious model I, (I think that's the model). And it's maybe around $50
Have the same problem. Got my first smitar 9 years ago. I have never played a mmo game only fps, but without all them extra buttons I fell completely disabled.
Similar, I got the Logitech G600 with the shifter key on the pinky too, just wish the side #6 button wouldn't die on all of them 🙁 and wish it didn't get discontinued 😭😭😭
No one ever wants to show an actual mouse because they aren't that cute and give a lot of people the ick. I've seen a Kangaroo Rat used before. They seem like the cutest actual mouse-like creature.
I'm torn on the built in battery. Pros: Convenient, lighter, better weight distribution Cons: Longevity, typically lower capacity than a AA battery, Difficult to hot swap. Though the argument I have with longevity myself is, by the time the battery won't hold a reasonable charge anymore it's likely one of the clickers is starting to fail or it may be getting close to time for a new one anyway. Overall I think I prefer a mouse that needs a AA/AAA battery, but those options with other nice features are few and far between.
What's lighter is not having a battery in the mouse altogether. I don't get the appeal of wireless, you are sitting down stationary the wire does not matter.
Go to your local tech store and put hands on mice and keyboards before buying. The amount of personal preference for these items makes actually experiencing them in person so important. Shape and feel can't be relayed in a online review the same way features can be.
@theredx3196 that's not really true. The idea that MOUSE stands for "Manual Operated User Selection Equipment" is a backronym. The term "mouse" was originally coined by its creator because the cord resembled a mouse tail. Mice isn't wrong since it refers to the plural of mouse, and the word mouses was later introduced to avoid confusion between the animal and the computer device. Both ways of saying it are correct.
One thing not covered here is microswitch reliability. Every mouse I've ever had has eventually failed because of click recognition failure: Either inability to tell when a click happens, recognising one click as two, or recognising a held click as intermittently released. Ive had expensive and cheap Logitech mice last exactly the same time, but had better mileage with Razer. There's a lot of technology that goes into physical switch design and electronic debounce compensation, and I've found that theirs just works for me.
I've been using a cheap mouse from Fuhlen which employs optical switches: clicking moves a steel wire to block a beam of infrared light. It's lasted for over 5 years.
i have had cheap mice last many years, my razor mouse (deathadder elite) lasted about a year, well it have it wired though my desk and i am NOT redoing that.. bought a new switch and replaced the switches in the mouse and have been using them for a few years now
Yep, bad switches have been the only reason I've had to replace so many mice over the years. Maybe I've been looking in the wrong places, but I haven't found a single product description for a mouse that touts how reliable their microswitches are. I don't give a damn about how fancy the RGB lighting on a mouse is, give me a Dove bar that will still be reliably clicking away when I'm dead and gone.
I had a switch fail pretty quickly in a Razer mouse. It has Chinese D2FC-F-K(50M)-RZ switches in it. Well, it did. Now it has Kailh GM 4.0 switches in it. I still swapped it out for a Logitech G502 Hero SE mouse.
I think the right hand is way underutilized. The left hand gets a whole plate covered in keys but the right hand gets a wheel and two buttons? I have macros on the g502 for copy, paste, screenshot, volume up, volume down, volume mute (panic mute), discord mute, alt + tab and enter. When holding the paste or copy shortcut you can also scroll to zoom in out. It's a game changer
Swiftpoint Z baybeeeee Got tilt right + middle click for profile switch, tilt up + scroll up for infinite scroll up, and tilt down + scroll down for infinite scroll down. Hell, I even got FFXIV's 11 hotbars mapped onto it.
@@jamescruz8678I had to look up the Swiftpoint Z. Found the Z2. That mouse looks fking insane man. It also looks like it might have a bit of a learning curve, but once you get used to it, it’s probably extremely useful.
The main thing is to get a mouse that actually fits your hands and/or feels comfortable. I hate all the "flat" or tiny mice that end up cramping my hands. After that, the responsiveness is probably the highest consideration in looking for a more expensive mouse.
@@wolkowitchexistence My favorite has been the Logitech G502 (wired) mouse. I set it to 8000 dpi all the time, with a polling rate of 1000. I also use a mousing surface mat designed for mouse lasers. I find it makes a significant difference over a random mouse pad. The key for me was setting the dpi high, and getting used to it, so that I can move the cursor from one side of the screen to the other with barely any wrist movement. I've also tried special ergonomic mice that you hold from the side, so your hand remains vertical, rather than horizontal. The position is nice, but the sensors are crap. The ideal would probably be if Logitech/Razor/Corsair/Etc. each started putting out a mouse of that type.
Agreed. I like mine so much that I bought another, so when the original finally dies, hopefully a long time from now, I'll have a spare. I also bought one for my daughter.
I got the g502 and the g502 x. The g502 feels better in the hand, but the x has better placement for extra buttons, g502 has a better scroll wheel, the x is a fair bit less heavy and the battery lasts longer. Also, for those who care, the g502 if you map the buttons on PC will work on your PS5 wirelessly with all the buttons working correctly. with the g502 x however, none of the side / extra buttons are recongized, even if you map them to a custom profile.
Logitech G402 + a cheap soldering iron + a few Omron switches from Aliexpress. Still much cheaper than the modern alternatives + lasts forever with minimal maintenance + learning an useful everyday skill = unbeatable value.
More buttons - is what we need. I need more for desktop use so that I don't have to move my hand from the mouse to the keyboard so often. They can be nice in gaming too.
Exactly I don't get why two extra buttons on the side of right and left mouse click right on the top of the mouse is not standard. They are so easy to press and access and gives four more buttons to bind, 2-3 more buttons can easily be placed on the left side and would also be easy to use. Also right and left mouse buttons should have a secondly click on each if you press on the far side of each. Add in right and left tilt click on mouse wheel for two more functional buttons to bind for easy use. But here we are with 2 extra buttons being the default you are lucky to find on any mouse. It's ridiculous.
I love the Logitech g305. $50, wireless, and well above the specs you recommend here. It's not rechargable and takes AA batteries, but I only have to change the battery once every few months
That Hero sensor is really efficient. Batteries on the G604 I use at work last at lot more than the Deathadder V2 Hyperspeed that is used pretty much only on the weekends and holidays.
I used to own and still using 100$+ mice, but for my main PC I have been using a 23$ Logitech G102 for a couple of years now. Light, fast, accurate, with side buttons, and even has customizable RGB. Overall an excellent mouse for gaming and everyday use. I will never buy an expensive mouse ever again.
Same, but with Kensington and their scroll ring, which I wish they would license to Gameball or non-commercial open source it so we could get Ploopy builds.
This is legit a problem. Nothing beats that g502 wheel. But razer seems to have a competitor, it doesn't seem as satisfying but also more functional at the same time if the auto switch really works
Been using a basic Corsair M55 for years now at home and at work. Love it. It has a left- hand set of back and forward buttons as well as right hand, so I have 2 extra buttons to bind to melee or whatever in games, which is usually more than enough extra buttons.
My bargain bin laser mouse acted up recently: the scroll wheel sensor got dirty, scrilling all over the place. After disassembly and cleaning it works like new. The one thing that never failed me in hardware is a dirt cheap cabled mouse. Feature rdich mice however tend to have a lot of points of failure. Also form factor is way more important than any performance improvements or extras. You can ruin your hand witha garbage design.
My Intellimouse Explorer that I got from Circuit City is peak mouse design. The plastic easily wears down to conform to your hand placement and feels like I'm getting a hand hug every time I use it 😊
I have Zelotes C-13 (20$), that have 6 ergonomic buttons on a side panel, button in LMB, high DPI sensor, backlight, all keys programmable, mouse is heavy (as heavy as you need, you can change weight) and comfortable, I have used it for years and it still works. I don't know what else I need from computer mouse. So, the only difference between expensive mouse and cheap is brand and director's salary.
My biggest discovery ever was that if your mouse has extra two buttons (so 5 in total, counting the scroll wheel), Windows by default assigns them to back and forward. Works in file browser and in Web browsers. Since then I can't get used to not having those two extra buttons.
Really nice to see others have also seen the light.... Or in other words, realized that fancy "gaming mouse" with plenty of bells and whistles (or atleast few additional buttons) can really improve your office work. I have programmed functions like tab-key and shift-tab on my mouse. And when I do work that is heavy on basically copying numbers on various fields, I use a separate numpad and navigate my keyboard cursor from field to field with the "tab" keys on my mouse. All while hovering mouse cursor over a pdf, wich totally does obey wheel scrolling, without losing key-focus on the other program. And the unlockable mousewheel.... What can I say, apart from *click* & Wheeeeee! makes scrolling boring a?? documents a breeze. Have to admit, the gaming mouse is likely the best tech thing I have got so far, and I don't even use it for gaming... Well maybe sometimes, but even then for the games I actually play, the "bells and whistles" are basically pointless. I mean seriously, my fancy mouse is on my work computer, and at home I have this boring a?? HP keyboard mouse combo. Nothing wrong with it, but nothing fancy about them either, just a regular basic keyboard and a regular basic mouse that conveniently use a shared dongle. The HP set has served me well for many years, and it shows as some minor keyprint wear or fading. But other than that, have been very reliable. And that is why I chose this set, I figured HP was a reliable brand, they looked ok to me. Nothing interesting, but I were not trying to find anything interesting, as I was literally looking for a rather boring thing that would just work. And for that it has been just about perfect. All and all... Different people, different needs so why not different mice?
I don't play MOBAs, but I LOVE MOBA mice. Using a G600 right now. I find them particularly useful in FPS games for quickly switching weapons without having to sacrifice a finger on my left hand that could be holding a movement key. I first realized how useful MOBA mice were for this when I learned about cancelling the the AWP rechamber animation by quickly switch to the knife, then back to the AWP. With a MOBA mouse, it's as simple as swiping your thumb from 3 to 1, an extremely fast downward slide.
Just a quick note, G600 is a mmo mouse, as a fellow mmo mouse enjoyer I do agree with that point tho, it's one of the many overlooked options with such a mouse, I would never use a non mmo mouse for my gaming anymore. 12 thumbbuttons is a must. And as I also love mmorpg's (not currently playing one but still) I also considder the scrollwheel tilt a very valuable feature, for example in my last mmorpg tilting right spawned my main mount, tilting left was actually mounting said mount.
Good job on this. Good refresher as mine is getting old. FYI to anyone reading. Don't buy a Razer Viper Ultimate. The mouse is the only good thing about it. The charging dock fails after a short time so you have to plug it in to charge off the dock. Also, the software is terrible. Lately it has been deleting my profiles here and there. Lastly, the lighting and other settings reset all the time on Synapse no matter how many times you set it or reinstall.
I use Anker’s vertical mouse which leaves me with pretty much no choice because all the mice in that form factor are budget mice. I tried another vertical mouse from Logitech because it was better spec’d in every way, but it was very differently shaped despite also being vertical and I couldn’t get on with it. I’d love for there to be more options in the vertical mouse space, but it seems like it’s still considered a very niche product.
After buying a used Logitech MX mouse, I bought a new MX 3S. Both are used, but the 3S has become my gaming laptop mouse and my MacBook mouse. The MX 1st generation my desktop mouse.... for 3 desktops. I've eliminated 4 mice with 2. (2 MacBook Pros)
I would like to point out that _polling rate_ is not how often the mouse reports its position to the PC, but rather how often _the PC asks the mouse for its position._ That's how the USB protocol works, the host device must ask the peripheral, not the other way around.
Love my Swiftpoint Z. It's stupid with the amount of features it has yet so damn useful. A combination of using gyro values as keyboard inputs and 5 analog-like buttons, along with what's basically infinite button layering, means you can do ridiculous things like map FFXIV's 11 hotbars to it. Taran would've LOVED it.
I have my cheap "gamming mouse" for over 6 years now. it costs something between 20-25$ and it is fabiolous to play many different games and for work use. It is actually the mouse that is the longest time with me alive, without dying under my hand pressure XD
The biggest thing I miss when not using an MMO/MOBA mouse is the option to push the scroll wheel to the side, which I use for DPI switching to 100. I really almost spend 100$ extra on a razer, but gotta say the 30$ Aerox 3 is doing a great job
I'm very pleased with my Logitech Lift. I have a desk job that includes a lot of mousing and I never feel any wrist pain. It took some time to get use to and it's not very feature rich, but I plan to use my hands for a long time. 😊
lately, each time i needed a mouse, i only bought second hand gaming mouse, for 15-20€. It gives me the opportinuty to try different brand without costing too much. (a corsair for my desk pc, a no-name for my work pc, a Logitech for the pc a my mother's place, even had a friend who really like the razer one i found so i gave it to him)
I may have missed it but for wireless mouse, multi-device support can be important. I switch my Logitech mx master 3 between my pc and my work laptop with a click of button.
My first proper gaming mouse was a G502 Proteus Spectrum, and that thing lasted a while with no double click issues. I only just recently decided to upgrade about a year ago to the G502 X since it is a bit lighter and uses hybrid optical-mechanical switches rather than the cheap Omrons in the Hero that keep giving people double click issues. My Proteus Spectrum still works btw, that thing was built like a tank.
Oh sweet i didnt know they had one with optical switches, i know what ill be getting soon...mine just started having that double click issue. (It had had almost a decade of everyday use tho)
Somehow all the expensive mice I've bougt in the past few years have all had the scroll wheel start failing after an unaxeptably short time. After the third one failed in the exact same way I got annoyed and bought a cheap deltaco mouse for 12 dollars. Can't say the mouse is great, but at least it hasn't had any malfunctions.
I have a Speedlink Sovos vertical RGB gaming mouse. I bought it as I was having issues with my wrist getting a bit sore using a normal mouse so I needed a more ergonomic mouse that wouldn't hurt my wrist or hand when using it. I also wanted a mouse that I could change the sensitivity with and had a higher sensitivity so I could have more precise control over the mouse speed. I have been using it for several years and works great for my needs which is mostly video, audio and image editing, some gaming. It is right handed and has the scroll wheel and mouse left and right click buttons on the right. The scroll well still scrolls fine but while you can press it to scroll faster, but I find it hard to do that. On the left side of the mouse is a thumb control joystick which controls sound volume, back and forward buttons and a button to change the DPI sensitivity which has fixed settings (500,1200, 2000, 4000, 4800 and 10000).
I'm not a gamer, but my MX Master 2S is one of the best purchases I've made. In general, I find that input and output devices - i.e. keyboard/mouse/monitor - bring the most quality of life upgrades to general computing, and they also last a long time.
I've been using a $20 wired mouse for the last 4+ years and it's been doing great. Max of 1000Hz polling rate (I keep it at 500Hz), max of 7200 DPI (I keep it at 1200), RGB lighting, 3 side buttons, 2 top buttons, middle mouse button/scroll wheel, left right click, all customizable, and macro support. What more could you ask for? It is laser though, but it's fine for me. I did buy a cheap $30 wireless gaming mouse but it doesn't have any spot to hold the dongle, lol. I still use my good ol' wired mouse. Inland GM76 is what it is. I got lucky with it. Micro Center is where it's at, and one of the workers there even recommended it over the more expensive mice. 7:15 lol, that's exactly how my mouse's software looks. Very similar overall design but the exact same layout.
I use 125 Hz and 1200 DPI I think my mouse goes up to 16,000 DPI? At that speed I can't even see the cursor. Switching to decaff ain't gonna help me then either. The mouse is all over the place.
my best advice. if you are looking for a new mouse and you play games like shooters, light mice are great. they are not a gimmick,.it feels horrible for 2 weeks and then it's the nicest thing. you just unlock higher precision with every action using the same amount of effort, it's a big long-term investment if you use a pc daily, even for desk work
The mouse rabbit hole is deep as well as the iem, and keyboard holes. Finding the perfect shape and use case will be troublesome. Being content and not carjng about the latest releases cures the FOMO a lot.
I love how comfortable the deathadder is but I can't live without the basilisk's hypershift and many buttons. Wish there's one with the former's shape and the latter's features.
Don't forget the mice that can be linked to multiple devices. I have the M720 and can switch between 3 devices with the click of a button. Great for people with a home office! Or two devices on two different networks...
I use Asus Gladius because it has both wired connection, 2.4GHz RF dongle and Bluetooth which you choose with a switch. Also configurable DPI, some side buttons and nice feeling buttons help.
I got used to the Logitec 700 series, had an MX700, upgaded that for a G700 and now i have G502X PLus Lightspeed (which should have been also a 700 series because of it's shape) I liked it that the old mice had replaceble AA batteries, MX700 had a dock for easy charging, G700 you could attach a cable. And with my new G502X Plus lightspeed + mousemat i don't even have to worry about the battery anymore. Software could be better though, it's OK but it misses options that would be logical (multi monitor support for the LED lighting for instance)
@@Dan-Simms , the mouse has lights that, like ambilight, can react to what's on screen,. But you can't select a monitor, it's always on the monitor with the start menu even if that isn't the main monitor you game on. It isn't really nescessary but it i's niice when you whatch a movie or music vid if ambilight would be working like my keyboard and rest of my lighting set-up. (you don't use the mouse then so you can see the lights :) )
Been using my razer naga i bought in 2013 as my daily mouse since. Many other mice have come and gone in this time (including a naga epic/pro) and for some reason the OG naga that only lights up green simply refuses to die
My Redragon Impact M908 MMO mouse is my absolute favorite... doesn't break the bank but has excellent features. The RGB is a little gaudy but I love it :D
I have the PICTEK Gaming Mouse Wired that I got once on Amazon and a few years later after that died, I got three more on eBay since it was discontinued for $10 each. Best mouse I've ever had
I'm still using the same early 2000s mouse I got from my stepdad with my first (old hand-down WinXP office) laptop in like 2010 and it hasn't let me down even just once since then. It's yellow for years already and so obscure that I can't even find anything about it on Google, even tho it's from Logitech. I love it and wouldn't want to trade it for any other mouse.
What types of weird mice do you own? I'm starting with the Commodore 1351 mouse. It's a mouse for the Commodore 64 and 128 and is mainly used for the operating system GEOS. The mouse uses the two 8 bit A/D-converters of the SID for reading the positions. So if your soundchip is faulty the mouse won't work. If you press the right button while powering on, it works like a 4 axis joystick. So you can play games with any device using a 9 pin Atari-style connector with a mouse. The 1350 is a only-joystick-mode mouse. I'm also owning the CMD Smartmouse. It uses a three button PC mouse case and is compatible to the 1351, including the joystick mode. But it contains an additional real-time clock!
The C64 never had use for a RTC. But the operating system GEOS was a huge success. In the late 80's it was the thirdmost used OS after MS-DOS and MacOS Classic, simply because so many C64 and C128 were existing. But you had to manually set clock and date every time. The manufacturer Creative Micro Designs created awesome hardware for the C64 and C128. There were the 3,5" floppies FD-2000 with 1.6 MB and the FD-4000 with 3.2 MB. The CMD Hard Drive used SCSI drives up to 4 GB. The RAMLink could store up to 16 MB on 30 pin-SIMMs. It was extremely fast, but required a big battery. It could also speed up the HD by using parallel data transfer. And there were the SmartMouse and the SmartTrackball. CMD integrated in all devices a battery backup'd RTC. An GEOS auto-executeable was used to set and read the clocks. So CMD added in their products various methods to have a real clock in GEOS. The one from the Smartmouse is easy to recreate because it connects to the joystick port.
The first officially presented input device of this type was named ''Rollkugelsteuerung für das SIG-100 am TR-86". It was created from Telefunken for their TR440 computer. The model number is TRS 100-86. It was already adverted since May 1966, and officially presented on October 2, 1968. The TRS 100-86 is the first commercial product of this type.
Maybe you but this is 2024 who has time to clean up lint roller balls when we're trying to be productive in 2024 maybe for old fogies who are retired and have nothing better to look play Farmville lol but we're not playing Farmville in life we're working we don't have time for that
Totally agree. Track-ball is much more comfortable to use, and most game actually feels better when playing with gamepad. And lots of games that need keyboard / mouse actually works pretty well with trackball once you get used to track ball.
it's pretty nice to have a mouse with pixel-accuracy on a 4k monitor it being lighter is also great for ergonomics, especially for people with wrist issues I avoid rubber as much as possible though, as it decays and starts looking horrible already after a few months also gotta avoid mice with ridiculous failure rates like logitech's expensive ones lol
Was expecting worse from a channel filled with people who dont know much about mice at all but honestly this video is very neutral and just explains the facts, nice one :) Recommending against off brand stuff is an L though, theres so many good mice from smaller brands which very often are much better and cheaper than big brand offerings that you cant just say dont buy non big brand stuff lol
A4tech OP720 replaced the old trusty logitech ball mouse that most of us are using in the early 90-2000s. Now the A4tech OP720 is the cheapest most used mouse all over the world, I myself have bought hundreds for my computer rental shops over the years. It even comes bundled with a keyboard on the A4tech mouse+keyboard value pack, I avoided the keyboard though as shoddy customers steals the keycaps like its peanuts and used old dell ex-office keyboards which keys are very hard to pluck with bare fingers. A4Tech OP720 are even promoted by e-sports players from the Philippines as their personal championship mouse preference!
So, i bought last year TechZone v-70, for ≈ 6$, it has 10 000 dpi, 1000Hz polling rate and adverts 0.1ms response time, has a software that does just mostly configs it and applies RGB config, the app doesn't run in the background (just a portable app) It think chinese mice like these are just comparable to other American made expensive gaming mice (change my mind)
Won't notice the improved latency above 1.000Hz.? That might be true, however that is DEFINITELY not all there is to it! I own a mouse with 8.000Hz polling rate, and my previous mouse was a 1.000Hz, and believe me when I say that there is a HUGE difference in terms of accuracy! And I'm talking about everything from doing 3D work in Blender or similar software to aiming in a video game. Everything is just better, easier and much more reliable to work with.
I'm finding that pretty hard to believe. Being as 1,000 Hz is about 125 times faster than top gun fighter ace reaction time. Which I'm sure you're no match for. Your statements lead me to believe that you do not even have a rudimentary grasp of time intervals. A KiloHertz and 8 KHz are in the auditory band. You would perceive both as tones of sound. To think you could distinguish between the periods of individual waves is laughable. I use 125 Hz polling rate and it's fine.
I've been buying logitech's G203 equivalent for years. Easy 25 bucks. And lasts exactly 2 years. It has extra forward and back buttons and i've never noticed a difference when switching from the logitech high end tier down to this one.
Despite all these options, I feel like Goldilocks trying to find a mouse that does everything I want without becoming defective within a year. I’m so tired of replacing mice. The SteelSeries Aerox 5 Wireless is what I’m on now. Lightweight, has a few extra buttons that I can bind to copy and paste and whatnot, and it’s wireless. It’s the closest I’ve gotten to what I want out of a mouse, but of course the scroll wheel is already malfunctioning and I wish it didn’t creak when squeezed (it’s plastic and honeycomb though so I guess that’s understandable). Tempted to get a metal mouse one day if it’ll be more durable lol
I have a SteelSeries Rival 600, Rival 3 and Prime + and love them all 🥺❤️ not too expensive and cool features, good feeling and nice look and customization
I usually just stick with the default keyboard/mouse combo that comes with my PC. The most recent one is the one that came with my MSI Aegis about a year ago...works just fine.
As a laptop user I prefer my trusty trackball mouse. I hate using trackpads for any serious work and I'm not always able to use a traditional mouse in every setting. Trackball mouse is the best of both worlds in terms of compact portability, range of motion and precision.
I originally had a Logitech G602. After 2 died, I got a Razer basilisk and when that one decided to have issues I RMA’d it. Razer didn’t have any replacements for that model so they sent me a Razer Basilisk Ultimate instead. They got a dedicated customer for that!
This is exactly what I wanted to hear.. I've been looking at my 15 years old Roccat Kone[+] that, well, hasn't died yet and doesn't need replacement either! However, its firmware is as obsolete as the Roman Empire.
I have a Trust GTX REXX and have it set up so the left side back button changes the DPI (I have it colour coded) and the forward button disabled. I also have a BenQ ZOWIE CAMADE II mouse bungie for smoother mouse movement at all times.
30 year olds in the 80s- "I think I can afford that really nice house."
30 year olds in the 2020s- "I don't think I can afford that really nice mouse."
too real
Reality hits hard
could be worse. could be a keyboard too.
To the youth that check replies in this comment. Get into the trades if you're not able to get into tech. Both the welder and the electrician I grew up with own their homes. Currently, over 30 in 2024.
Thanks capitalism!
My mice are free but they eat my food :(
Its not free then, you are paying for its food
@@Mrhzuann food stamps are free
Sad 😅
I am confuse whether or not that kind of mouse is wireless. They don't directly attached to my PC but still have some cable left on its back. I also kinda hate them because the DPI setting is generally too high for my taste, they slide away everytime I tried to hold it.
@@philemon26 they also make a lot of noise when you’re in an intense gaming session which can be less than ideal when on voice chats
I'd like to point out that 0:15 this is a Siberian Dwarf Hamster, not a mouse lol
I noticed that, too. lol
:/
Hmmm, so I can't use it to play Doom? 😭😭
You could, but I don't think it will appreciate where you put the dongle when storing it.@@Abdullx200
Hmm, explains why my cursor wasn't responding when I tried gaming with it earlier.
The only consistent issue I have had with mice regardless of brand is the scroll wheel eventually always starts acting up. Where you scroll down and occasionally it doesn't detect it or scrolls up instead. It's pretty annoying.
Yeah same here
In 2 of my mice, the issue was caused by dust buildup. Worth to disassemble and clean to see if it helps in the future
Cheaper ones use a mechanical rotary encoder in them. Good ones use optical, really fancy ones (I may have splurged) I presume use magnetic hall encoders or similar and have a magnetic fluid that they vary the resistance with as you scroll the wheel. You can literally program the entire force curve for the detent of the wheels rotation. Not just soft or hard, like literally a curve so you can make it snap or squish into the detents. And program how many detents you have! What a time to be alive.
I only got this after my $30 Microsoft mouse had the rubber of the wheel actually peel off entirely after a decade of use.
I've had a razer hyper x for 6 years and have zero problems with it
Logitech free wheel mice use optical encoders. But while their scroll wheels last forever, the their main buttons have been going bad recently.
Why not to use a subscription based mouse?
the ad-supported tier is cheaper & affordable
when the logitech
Don't you dare joke about that.
Yes, the (pay) forever mouse!
why not stop beating the dead horse? (old news, that been dismissed already)
I'm surprised you didn't mention ergonomics; it's a complex field with a lot of variables, but getting a mouse that fits your hand and grip style can make a mile of difference in comfort. Also, long term, it reduces your risk of hand pain.
And honestly, I think you undersold the value of materials and build quality; they're not really quantifiable metrics, but they make a huge difference in the general feel of using your computer.
definitely, they showed the logitech mx mouse that I use at work, I love how it feels but I couldn't give up my Razer Naga mouse because of the MMO buttons.
So many expensive mice have horrible ergonomics while there are plenty of cheaper offerings that lead to less strain on certain hands.
I'm a trackball guy, and honestly the perfect design for my mitts is the entry-level Kensington Orbit with Scroll Wheel. It would be even better if they didn't nerf it by only giving it two buttons so you'd go out and buy the Expert or Slimblade (or if they were willing to license out the patent on the scroll ring), but that's just business, I guess. 🤷
@@GSBarlev I've been using a logitech g703 since 2020 and after going through 2 of them in the 3 years (double click issue), i tried the doubly expensive g-pro ultralight and hated the ergonomics. I switched back to my $70 g703 and now i pretty consistently expect about ~2 years out of each mouse.
when your mouse wheel breaks in a week i think the material quality is quantifiable
TBH though, this seems to be an increasingly bad reason to spend extra, you might find yourself stuck buying something expensive to fit your hand but there's a range of cheap Chinese ergonomic mice that are great quality for the rest of us.
I bought a GPX "clone" that's almost identical in shape, but it's lighter, has drastically more battery life and the clicks all feel much higher quality; won't catch me shelling out for another Logitech mouse anytime soon.
5:30 this exactly is why I love my giant MMO mouse, despite never once playing an MMO.
Used to buy mouses about 20-30 € and they lasted me around 1-2 years max. Bought mouse for 70-80 € and never would back to cheaper models :). 3 years and counting...
I recently checked my older mouse, that I got without research. Man it's terrible compared to glorious model I, (I think that's the model). And it's maybe around $50
I have a Logitech G502 wired which cost me maybe 50 bucks and lasted me 6 years now. Still feels like new. I don't care for wireless.
I got corsair scimitar 3 years ago, now im disabled when using a normal mouse without 12 programmable buttons, send help
Have the same problem. Got my first smitar 9 years ago. I have never played a mmo game only fps, but without all them extra buttons I fell completely disabled.
I have the same problem got mine years ago for mmo game now play FPS or story games but all those buttons are so helpful
I have never used a mouse with all that extra buttons and I already feel disabled
Similar, I got the Logitech G600 with the shifter key on the pinky too, just wish the side #6 button wouldn't die on all of them 🙁 and wish it didn't get discontinued 😭😭😭
What do you use all these buttons for? I never saw them being useful for anything than mmo that's why I'm curious
0:14 That's a hamster, not a mouse :D
No one ever wants to show an actual mouse because they aren't that cute and give a lot of people the ick. I've seen a Kangaroo Rat used before. They seem like the cutest actual mouse-like creature.
@@sntslilhlpr6601 mice are adorable.
“Back to school season is coming up” 3:12
My first day is today :(
@@TechnoOlive Same D:
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Get shred bro
Damn that seems so early
Stay in school!
I'm torn on the built in battery. Pros: Convenient, lighter, better weight distribution Cons: Longevity, typically lower capacity than a AA battery, Difficult to hot swap.
Though the argument I have with longevity myself is, by the time the battery won't hold a reasonable charge anymore it's likely one of the clickers is starting to fail or it may be getting close to time for a new one anyway.
Overall I think I prefer a mouse that needs a AA/AAA battery, but those options with other nice features are few and far between.
What's lighter is not having a battery in the mouse altogether. I don't get the appeal of wireless, you are sitting down stationary the wire does not matter.
Go to your local tech store and put hands on mice and keyboards before buying.
The amount of personal preference for these items makes actually experiencing them in person so important.
Shape and feel can't be relayed in a online review the same way features can be.
@theredx3196 I'm not saying mouses even if it is the correct terminology 🤣
Thank you for the IT tidbit none the less 👍🏾
@theredx3196 that's not really true. The idea that MOUSE stands for "Manual Operated User Selection Equipment" is a backronym. The term "mouse" was originally coined by its creator because the cord resembled a mouse tail. Mice isn't wrong since it refers to the plural of mouse, and the word mouses was later introduced to avoid confusion between the animal and the computer device. Both ways of saying it are correct.
One thing not covered here is microswitch reliability. Every mouse I've ever had has eventually failed because of click recognition failure: Either inability to tell when a click happens, recognising one click as two, or recognising a held click as intermittently released. Ive had expensive and cheap Logitech mice last exactly the same time, but had better mileage with Razer. There's a lot of technology that goes into physical switch design and electronic debounce compensation, and I've found that theirs just works for me.
My G5s haven't failed yet..
I've been using a cheap mouse from Fuhlen which employs optical switches: clicking moves a steel wire to block a beam of infrared light. It's lasted for over 5 years.
i have had cheap mice last many years, my razor mouse (deathadder elite) lasted about a year, well it have it wired though my desk and i am NOT redoing that.. bought a new switch and replaced the switches in the mouse and have been using them for a few years now
Yep, bad switches have been the only reason I've had to replace so many mice over the years. Maybe I've been looking in the wrong places, but I haven't found a single product description for a mouse that touts how reliable their microswitches are. I don't give a damn about how fancy the RGB lighting on a mouse is, give me a Dove bar that will still be reliably clicking away when I'm dead and gone.
I had a switch fail pretty quickly in a Razer mouse. It has Chinese D2FC-F-K(50M)-RZ switches in it. Well, it did. Now it has Kailh GM 4.0 switches in it. I still swapped it out for a Logitech G502 Hero SE mouse.
4:09 Yup, the mouse choice here is on spot. That is the mouse that I bought a few days ago.
I think the right hand is way underutilized. The left hand gets a whole plate covered in keys but the right hand gets a wheel and two buttons?
I have macros on the g502 for copy, paste, screenshot, volume up, volume down, volume mute (panic mute), discord mute, alt + tab and enter. When holding the paste or copy shortcut you can also scroll to zoom in out. It's a game changer
Numpad users be like😅
Swiftpoint Z baybeeeee
Got tilt right + middle click for profile switch, tilt up + scroll up for infinite scroll up, and tilt down + scroll down for infinite scroll down.
Hell, I even got FFXIV's 11 hotbars mapped onto it.
What about the g604? That has even more side buttons
@@jamescruz8678I had to look up the Swiftpoint Z. Found the Z2. That mouse looks fking insane man. It also looks like it might have a bit of a learning curve, but once you get used to it, it’s probably extremely useful.
I could never overwrite my muscle memory like that
No one ever lost a match because their mouse didn't have speed holes.
Good and thorough video!
That ''Mouse with holes for weight reduction'' trend is luckily fading away.
The main thing is to get a mouse that actually fits your hands and/or feels comfortable. I hate all the "flat" or tiny mice that end up cramping my hands. After that, the responsiveness is probably the highest consideration in looking for a more expensive mouse.
Getting a mouse with an excellent sensor has been key in helping me reduce wrist pain and carpel tunnel. It also helps that I can aim better in games.
which mouse you use rn and what you can recommend?
@@wolkowitchexistence My favorite has been the Logitech G502 (wired) mouse. I set it to 8000 dpi all the time, with a polling rate of 1000. I also use a mousing surface mat designed for mouse lasers. I find it makes a significant difference over a random mouse pad. The key for me was setting the dpi high, and getting used to it, so that I can move the cursor from one side of the screen to the other with barely any wrist movement.
I've also tried special ergonomic mice that you hold from the side, so your hand remains vertical, rather than horizontal. The position is nice, but the sensors are crap. The ideal would probably be if Logitech/Razor/Corsair/Etc. each started putting out a mouse of that type.
G502 (old version not the new one) has been my favorite mouse for years, and regularly goes on sale so can be picked up in the $30-40 range.
Agreed. I like mine so much that I bought another, so when the original finally dies, hopefully a long time from now, I'll have a spare. I also bought one for my daughter.
I got the g502 and the g502 x. The g502 feels better in the hand, but the x has better placement for extra buttons, g502 has a better scroll wheel, the x is a fair bit less heavy and the battery lasts longer. Also, for those who care, the g502 if you map the buttons on PC will work on your PS5 wirelessly with all the buttons working correctly. with the g502 x however, none of the side / extra buttons are recongized, even if you map them to a custom profile.
Logitech G402 + a cheap soldering iron + a few Omron switches from Aliexpress.
Still much cheaper than the modern alternatives + lasts forever with minimal maintenance + learning an useful everyday skill = unbeatable value.
Bro I just want to buy a mouse not do a project
@@JPOG7TV The choice is yours, prepare your wallet.
502 works well
Soldering is a really good skill to learn, pretty fun too.
@@menpee One name, Attack Shark..
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More buttons - is what we need. I need more for desktop use so that I don't have to move my hand from the mouse to the keyboard so often. They can be nice in gaming too.
Exactly I don't get why two extra buttons on the side of right and left mouse click right on the top of the mouse is not standard. They are so easy to press and access and gives four more buttons to bind, 2-3 more buttons can easily be placed on the left side and would also be easy to use. Also right and left mouse buttons should have a secondly click on each if you press on the far side of each. Add in right and left tilt click on mouse wheel for two more functional buttons to bind for easy use. But here we are with 2 extra buttons being the default you are lucky to find on any mouse. It's ridiculous.
I love the Logitech g305. $50, wireless, and well above the specs you recommend here. It's not rechargable and takes AA batteries, but I only have to change the battery once every few months
That Hero sensor is really efficient. Batteries on the G604 I use at work last at lot more than the Deathadder V2 Hyperspeed that is used pretty much only on the weekends and holidays.
I couldn't agree more, best mouse I bought, and best bang for your bucks in my opinion
Rechargeable AA batteries are a thing🤷♂
Really nice mouse
On the lowest settings it can last ya for more than a year like in my case
Only for rechargeable batteries, most of them are expensive. If you charge a non-rechargable battery, it will just leak juice @@AzureBat
i have op1 8k, its like $70 and best mouse u can buy
I used to own and still using 100$+ mice, but for my main PC I have been using a 23$ Logitech G102 for a couple of years now. Light, fast, accurate, with side buttons, and even has customizable RGB. Overall an excellent mouse for gaming and everyday use. I will never buy an expensive mouse ever again.
@theredx3196 Are you ok? you need a chill pill or something? Also, I couldn't care less.
I can't wait for Logitech's patent for their scroll wheel expires. I can't daily drive a mouse without it any more.
Same, but with Kensington and their scroll ring, which I wish they would license to Gameball or non-commercial open source it so we could get Ploopy builds.
This is legit a problem. Nothing beats that g502 wheel. But razer seems to have a competitor, it doesn't seem as satisfying but also more functional at the same time if the auto switch really works
I've used a Logitech M510 for years and it works just fine for me. Use it everyday for work and occasionally for gaming. Never had a single problem.
Been using a basic Corsair M55 for years now at home and at work. Love it. It has a left- hand set of back and forward buttons as well as right hand, so I have 2 extra buttons to bind to melee or whatever in games, which is usually more than enough extra buttons.
My bargain bin laser mouse acted up recently: the scroll wheel sensor got dirty, scrilling all over the place. After disassembly and cleaning it works like new. The one thing that never failed me in hardware is a dirt cheap cabled mouse. Feature rdich mice however tend to have a lot of points of failure. Also form factor is way more important than any performance improvements or extras. You can ruin your hand witha garbage design.
My Intellimouse Explorer that I got from Circuit City is peak mouse design. The plastic easily wears down to conform to your hand placement and feels like I'm getting a hand hug every time I use it 😊
I have Zelotes C-13 (20$), that have 6 ergonomic buttons on a side panel, button in LMB, high DPI sensor, backlight, all keys programmable, mouse is heavy (as heavy as you need, you can change weight) and comfortable, I have used it for years and it still works. I don't know what else I need from computer mouse. So, the only difference between expensive mouse and cheap is brand and director's salary.
My biggest discovery ever was that if your mouse has extra two buttons (so 5 in total, counting the scroll wheel), Windows by default assigns them to back and forward. Works in file browser and in Web browsers. Since then I can't get used to not having those two extra buttons.
I am happy this channel is alive, at one point I thought this will die
Wired G502 Hero. Reasonably priced, adjustable sensitivity, adjustable polling rate, adjustable weight, quick switch between smooth and incremental scrolling and RGB.
It's not reasonably priced in 2024, all the other features are basic, RGB is a meme, and adjustable weight doesn't make it any less of a brick
My lightspeed is the best mouse I had❤ never wired again
@@sageen there are so many infinitely better mice out there, open your eyes. There's so much goodness
Really nice to see others have also seen the light.... Or in other words, realized that fancy "gaming mouse" with plenty of bells and whistles (or atleast few additional buttons) can really improve your office work.
I have programmed functions like tab-key and shift-tab on my mouse. And when I do work that is heavy on basically copying numbers on various fields, I use a separate numpad and navigate my keyboard cursor from field to field with the "tab" keys on my mouse. All while hovering mouse cursor over a pdf, wich totally does obey wheel scrolling, without losing key-focus on the other program.
And the unlockable mousewheel.... What can I say, apart from *click* & Wheeeeee! makes scrolling boring a?? documents a breeze. Have to admit, the gaming mouse is likely the best tech thing I have got so far, and I don't even use it for gaming... Well maybe sometimes, but even then for the games I actually play, the "bells and whistles" are basically pointless.
I mean seriously, my fancy mouse is on my work computer, and at home I have this boring a?? HP keyboard mouse combo. Nothing wrong with it, but nothing fancy about them either, just a regular basic keyboard and a regular basic mouse that conveniently use a shared dongle. The HP set has served me well for many years, and it shows as some minor keyprint wear or fading. But other than that, have been very reliable. And that is why I chose this set, I figured HP was a reliable brand, they looked ok to me. Nothing interesting, but I were not trying to find anything interesting, as I was literally looking for a rather boring thing that would just work. And for that it has been just about perfect.
All and all... Different people, different needs so why not different mice?
I don't play MOBAs, but I LOVE MOBA mice. Using a G600 right now. I find them particularly useful in FPS games for quickly switching weapons without having to sacrifice a finger on my left hand that could be holding a movement key. I first realized how useful MOBA mice were for this when I learned about cancelling the the AWP rechamber animation by quickly switch to the knife, then back to the AWP. With a MOBA mouse, it's as simple as swiping your thumb from 3 to 1, an extremely fast downward slide.
Just a quick note, G600 is a mmo mouse, as a fellow mmo mouse enjoyer I do agree with that point tho, it's one of the many overlooked options with such a mouse, I would never use a non mmo mouse for my gaming anymore. 12 thumbbuttons is a must.
And as I also love mmorpg's (not currently playing one but still) I also considder the scrollwheel tilt a very valuable feature, for example in my last mmorpg tilting right spawned my main mount, tilting left was actually mounting said mount.
Good job on this. Good refresher as mine is getting old. FYI to anyone reading. Don't buy a Razer Viper Ultimate. The mouse is the only good thing about it. The charging dock fails after a short time so you have to plug it in to charge off the dock. Also, the software is terrible. Lately it has been deleting my profiles here and there. Lastly, the lighting and other settings reset all the time on Synapse no matter how many times you set it or reinstall.
I use Anker’s vertical mouse which leaves me with pretty much no choice because all the mice in that form factor are budget mice.
I tried another vertical mouse from Logitech because it was better spec’d in every way, but it was very differently shaped despite also being vertical and I couldn’t get on with it.
I’d love for there to be more options in the vertical mouse space, but it seems like it’s still considered a very niche product.
You need to make a video of vertical mice!
After buying a used Logitech MX mouse, I bought a new MX 3S. Both are used, but the 3S has become my gaming laptop mouse and my MacBook mouse. The MX 1st generation my desktop mouse.... for 3 desktops. I've eliminated 4 mice with 2. (2 MacBook Pros)
Techquickie is the tutorial for newbies to other LMG channels
I would like to point out that _polling rate_ is not how often the mouse reports its position to the PC, but rather how often _the PC asks the mouse for its position._ That's how the USB protocol works, the host device must ask the peripheral, not the other way around.
Nice... SENSITIVITY on the FLY. GOOD job. Keep on BLOWING the term SENSITIVITY.
I genuinely love the lateral scroll wheel on the Mx Master 3.
Love my Swiftpoint Z. It's stupid with the amount of features it has yet so damn useful. A combination of using gyro values as keyboard inputs and 5 analog-like buttons, along with what's basically infinite button layering, means you can do ridiculous things like map FFXIV's 11 hotbars to it. Taran would've LOVED it.
I have my cheap "gamming mouse" for over 6 years now. it costs something between 20-25$ and it is fabiolous to play many different games and for work use. It is actually the mouse that is the longest time with me alive, without dying under my hand pressure XD
The biggest thing I miss when not using an MMO/MOBA mouse is the option to push the scroll wheel to the side, which I use for DPI switching to 100. I really almost spend 100$ extra on a razer, but gotta say the 30$ Aerox 3 is doing a great job
I'm very pleased with my Logitech Lift. I have a desk job that includes a lot of mousing and I never feel any wrist pain. It took some time to get use to and it's not very feature rich, but I plan to use my hands for a long time. 😊
lately, each time i needed a mouse, i only bought second hand gaming mouse, for 15-20€. It gives me the opportinuty to try different brand without costing too much.
(a corsair for my desk pc, a no-name for my work pc, a Logitech for the pc a my mother's place, even had a friend who really like the razer one i found so i gave it to him)
I may have missed it but for wireless mouse, multi-device support can be important. I switch my Logitech mx master 3 between my pc and my work laptop with a click of button.
The feel of the scroll wheel and better outer shell material is the most important thing to me. (I love my Logitech MX mouse)
My first proper gaming mouse was a G502 Proteus Spectrum, and that thing lasted a while with no double click issues. I only just recently decided to upgrade about a year ago to the G502 X since it is a bit lighter and uses hybrid optical-mechanical switches rather than the cheap Omrons in the Hero that keep giving people double click issues.
My Proteus Spectrum still works btw, that thing was built like a tank.
Oh sweet i didnt know they had one with optical switches, i know what ill be getting soon...mine just started having that double click issue. (It had had almost a decade of everyday use tho)
Somehow all the expensive mice I've bougt in the past few years have all had the scroll wheel start failing after an unaxeptably short time. After the third one failed in the exact same way I got annoyed and bought a cheap deltaco mouse for 12 dollars. Can't say the mouse is great, but at least it hasn't had any malfunctions.
I have a Speedlink Sovos vertical RGB gaming mouse. I bought it as I was having issues with my wrist getting a bit sore using a normal mouse so I needed a more ergonomic mouse that wouldn't hurt my wrist or hand when using it. I also wanted a mouse that I could change the sensitivity with and had a higher sensitivity so I could have more precise control over the mouse speed.
I have been using it for several years and works great for my needs which is mostly video, audio and image editing, some gaming. It is right handed and has the scroll wheel and mouse left and right click buttons on the right. The scroll well still scrolls fine but while you can press it to scroll faster, but I find it hard to do that. On the left side of the mouse is a thumb control joystick which controls sound volume, back and forward buttons and a button to change the DPI sensitivity which has fixed settings (500,1200, 2000, 4000, 4800 and 10000).
I'm not a gamer, but my MX Master 2S is one of the best purchases I've made.
In general, I find that input and output devices - i.e. keyboard/mouse/monitor - bring the most quality of life upgrades to general computing, and they also last a long time.
If they ever make a left hand version of that, I'd be chuffed.
I've been using a $20 wired mouse for the last 4+ years and it's been doing great. Max of 1000Hz polling rate (I keep it at 500Hz), max of 7200 DPI (I keep it at 1200), RGB lighting, 3 side buttons, 2 top buttons, middle mouse button/scroll wheel, left right click, all customizable, and macro support. What more could you ask for? It is laser though, but it's fine for me.
I did buy a cheap $30 wireless gaming mouse but it doesn't have any spot to hold the dongle, lol. I still use my good ol' wired mouse. Inland GM76 is what it is. I got lucky with it. Micro Center is where it's at, and one of the workers there even recommended it over the more expensive mice.
7:15 lol, that's exactly how my mouse's software looks. Very similar overall design but the exact same layout.
I use 125 Hz and 1200 DPI I think my mouse goes up to 16,000 DPI? At that speed I can't even see the cursor. Switching to decaff ain't gonna help me then either. The mouse is all over the place.
my best advice. if you are looking for a new mouse and you play games like shooters, light mice are great. they are not a gimmick,.it feels horrible for 2 weeks and then it's the nicest thing. you just unlock higher precision with every action using the same amount of effort, it's a big long-term investment if you use a pc daily, even for desk work
I just wish more buttons was common, you are lucky to get 2 extra at most.
The mouse rabbit hole is deep as well as the iem, and keyboard holes.
Finding the perfect shape and use case will be troublesome.
Being content and not carjng about the latest releases cures the FOMO a lot.
1st step: find a big enough mouse
luxuries: it's wireless and has drag clicking capabilities
I love how comfortable the deathadder is but I can't live without the basilisk's hypershift and many buttons. Wish there's one with the former's shape and the latter's features.
Don't forget the mice that can be linked to multiple devices. I have the M720 and can switch between 3 devices with the click of a button. Great for people with a home office! Or two devices on two different networks...
All the buttons on my G604 are essential for productivity. I use them for navigating virtual desktops and in documents.
I use Asus Gladius because it has both wired connection, 2.4GHz RF dongle and Bluetooth which you choose with a switch. Also configurable DPI, some side buttons and nice feeling buttons help.
We need same vid about keyboards!
Also, thanks for not spending half of the video talking about RGB :D
I got used to the Logitec 700 series, had an MX700, upgaded that for a G700 and now i have G502X PLus Lightspeed (which should have been also a 700 series because of it's shape)
I liked it that the old mice had replaceble AA batteries, MX700 had a dock for easy charging, G700 you could attach a cable.
And with my new G502X Plus lightspeed + mousemat i don't even have to worry about the battery anymore.
Software could be better though, it's OK but it misses options that would be logical (multi monitor support for the LED lighting for instance)
Wtf even is "multi monitor support for led lighting"?
@@Dan-Simms , the mouse has lights that, like ambilight, can react to what's on screen,.
But you can't select a monitor, it's always on the monitor with the start menu even if that isn't the main monitor you game on.
It isn't really nescessary but it i's niice when you whatch a movie or music vid if ambilight would be working like my keyboard and rest of my lighting set-up. (you don't use the mouse then so you can see the lights :) )
It's so easy to get seduced by fancy features we may not even need.
Been using my razer naga i bought in 2013 as my daily mouse since. Many other mice have come and gone in this time (including a naga epic/pro) and for some reason the OG naga that only lights up green simply refuses to die
a good sensor and ergonomics that fit you specifically is all that you need, 30-50 dollars is enough
My Redragon Impact M908 MMO mouse is my absolute favorite... doesn't break the bank but has excellent features. The RGB is a little gaudy but I love it :D
I have the PICTEK Gaming Mouse Wired that I got once on Amazon and a few years later after that died, I got three more on eBay since it was discontinued for $10 each. Best mouse I've ever had
I'm still using the same early 2000s mouse I got from my stepdad with my first (old hand-down WinXP office) laptop in like 2010 and it hasn't let me down even just once since then. It's yellow for years already and so obscure that I can't even find anything about it on Google, even tho it's from Logitech. I love it and wouldn't want to trade it for any other mouse.
That LTT shirt with the speckles all over it just makes it look like Riley has a bad case of dandruff.
What types of weird mice do you own?
I'm starting with the Commodore 1351 mouse. It's a mouse for the Commodore 64 and 128 and is mainly used for the operating system GEOS. The mouse uses the two 8 bit A/D-converters of the SID for reading the positions. So if your soundchip is faulty the mouse won't work. If you press the right button while powering on, it works like a 4 axis joystick. So you can play games with any device using a 9 pin Atari-style connector with a mouse. The 1350 is a only-joystick-mode mouse.
I'm also owning the CMD Smartmouse. It uses a three button PC mouse case and is compatible to the 1351, including the joystick mode. But it contains an additional real-time clock!
why would you put an RTC in a mouse?
The C64 never had use for a RTC. But the operating system GEOS was a huge success. In the late 80's it was the thirdmost used OS after MS-DOS and MacOS Classic, simply because so many C64 and C128 were existing. But you had to manually set clock and date every time.
The manufacturer Creative Micro Designs created awesome hardware for the C64 and C128. There were the 3,5" floppies FD-2000 with 1.6 MB and the FD-4000 with 3.2 MB. The CMD Hard Drive used SCSI drives up to 4 GB. The RAMLink could store up to 16 MB on 30 pin-SIMMs. It was extremely fast, but required a big battery. It could also speed up the HD by using parallel data transfer. And there were the SmartMouse and the SmartTrackball. CMD integrated in all devices a battery backup'd RTC. An GEOS auto-executeable was used to set and read the clocks. So CMD added in their products various methods to have a real clock in GEOS. The one from the Smartmouse is easy to recreate because it connects to the joystick port.
The first officially presented input device of this type was named ''Rollkugelsteuerung für das SIG-100 am TR-86". It was created from Telefunken for their TR440 computer. The model number is TRS 100-86. It was already adverted since May 1966, and officially presented on October 2, 1968. The TRS 100-86 is the first commercial product of this type.
Mice‽ Bah! Humbug! Track-ball! … with a scroll wheel. I don't play games, so this works better for me
Maybe you but this is 2024 who has time to clean up lint roller balls when we're trying to be productive in 2024 maybe for old fogies who are retired and have nothing better to look play Farmville lol but we're not playing Farmville in life we're working we don't have time for that
Totally agree. Track-ball is much more comfortable to use, and most game actually feels better when playing with gamepad. And lots of games that need keyboard / mouse actually works pretty well with trackball once you get used to track ball.
@@azmedzI've finally found it. The lowest effort troll post of 2024.i doubt it will be topped, congratulations.
Perfect timing I actually been wanting to upgrade my mouse soon but don’t know where to start.
it's pretty nice to have a mouse with pixel-accuracy on a 4k monitor
it being lighter is also great for ergonomics, especially for people with wrist issues
I avoid rubber as much as possible though, as it decays and starts looking horrible already after a few months
also gotta avoid mice with ridiculous failure rates like logitech's expensive ones lol
5:13 RIP to the Logitech G600… we lost a good one bois.
Lost my receiver the other day. I’m devastated
The title of this inspired me to finally find a way to disable the extraneous buttons on my mouse
Was expecting worse from a channel filled with people who dont know much about mice at all but honestly this video is very neutral and just explains the facts, nice one :)
Recommending against off brand stuff is an L though, theres so many good mice from smaller brands which very often are much better and cheaper than big brand offerings that you cant just say dont buy non big brand stuff lol
Personal top, gaming wise:
1. Shape
2. Weight
3. Battery life
4. Coating feel
5. Software
6. Everything else.
Redragons M908 is the best mouse I've used
A4tech OP720 replaced the old trusty logitech ball mouse that most of us are using in the early 90-2000s. Now the A4tech OP720 is the cheapest most used mouse all over the world, I myself have bought hundreds for my computer rental shops over the years. It even comes bundled with a keyboard on the A4tech mouse+keyboard value pack, I avoided the keyboard though as shoddy customers steals the keycaps like its peanuts and used old dell ex-office keyboards which keys are very hard to pluck with bare fingers. A4Tech OP720 are even promoted by e-sports players from the Philippines as their personal championship mouse preference!
So, i bought last year TechZone v-70, for ≈ 6$, it has 10 000 dpi, 1000Hz polling rate and adverts 0.1ms response time, has a software that does just mostly configs it and applies RGB config, the app doesn't run in the background (just a portable app)
It think chinese mice like these are just comparable to other American made expensive gaming mice (change my mind)
From personal experience the biggest gain in aimlabs came from a better mouse with a higher polling rate then any monitor or pc upgrade.
I realize the one very important factor of the gaming mouses is weight! I recently upgrade from 80g mouse to 60g one and it is a huge different!
You can also get gaming mice for under €10 from well-known manufacturers like AOC or TT and they're not even on sale
Won't notice the improved latency above 1.000Hz.? That might be true, however that is DEFINITELY not all there is to it!
I own a mouse with 8.000Hz polling rate, and my previous mouse was a 1.000Hz, and believe me when I say that there is a HUGE difference in terms of accuracy!
And I'm talking about everything from doing 3D work in Blender or similar software to aiming in a video game. Everything is just better, easier and much more reliable to work with.
I'm finding that pretty hard to believe. Being as 1,000 Hz is about 125 times faster than top gun fighter ace reaction time. Which I'm sure you're no match for. Your statements lead me to believe that you do not even have a rudimentary grasp of time intervals. A KiloHertz and 8 KHz are in the auditory band. You would perceive both as tones of sound. To think you could distinguish between the periods of individual waves is laughable. I use 125 Hz polling rate and it's fine.
I've been buying logitech's G203 equivalent for years. Easy 25 bucks. And lasts exactly 2 years. It has extra forward and back buttons and i've never noticed a difference when switching from the logitech high end tier down to this one.
Despite all these options, I feel like Goldilocks trying to find a mouse that does everything I want without becoming defective within a year. I’m so tired of replacing mice. The SteelSeries Aerox 5 Wireless is what I’m on now. Lightweight, has a few extra buttons that I can bind to copy and paste and whatnot, and it’s wireless. It’s the closest I’ve gotten to what I want out of a mouse, but of course the scroll wheel is already malfunctioning and I wish it didn’t creak when squeezed (it’s plastic and honeycomb though so I guess that’s understandable). Tempted to get a metal mouse one day if it’ll be more durable lol
I have a SteelSeries Rival 600, Rival 3 and Prime + and love them all 🥺❤️ not too expensive and cool features, good feeling and nice look and customization
i had 3-4 steelseries aerox 9 in the past 3-4 years
they keep breaking, but they are the only lightweight-ish mice (hamsters) with 12 side buttons
I usually just stick with the default keyboard/mouse combo that comes with my PC. The most recent one is the one that came with my MSI Aegis about a year ago...works just fine.
As a laptop user I prefer my trusty trackball mouse. I hate using trackpads for any serious work and I'm not always able to use a traditional mouse in every setting. Trackball mouse is the best of both worlds in terms of compact portability, range of motion and precision.
I originally had a Logitech G602. After 2 died, I got a Razer basilisk and when that one decided to have issues I RMA’d it. Razer didn’t have any replacements for that model so they sent me a Razer Basilisk Ultimate instead.
They got a dedicated customer for that!
I think that the defining factors are build quality and cable quality. You want your mouse to last a lifetime.
I loved my microsoft sidewinder mice for their vertical thumb buttons
This is exactly what I wanted to hear.. I've been looking at my 15 years old Roccat Kone[+] that, well, hasn't died yet and doesn't need replacement either! However, its firmware is as obsolete as the Roman Empire.
I have a Trust GTX REXX and have it set up so the left side back button changes the DPI (I have it colour coded) and the forward button disabled. I also have a BenQ ZOWIE CAMADE II mouse bungie for smoother mouse movement at all times.
Depends on usage. For most a Mid-Range Mouse is more than what most need