7 years in this game and no Animation Update, an only Decent Upgrade while Amakusa already got an MHX treatment and most importantly, got shafted more than once from being the owner of the highest HP in the game. Funny how they haven't done the same to her edgy twins yet
@@ShiraFuyu2022 Astolfo is widely liked and also only has 2 upgrades. And there are plenty of Year 1 servants without Buffs at all, like Lancelot Zerk. Like the primary team in this Vid, Lancelot Saber, Hans & Jeanne, Lancelot has 1 buff Hans & Jeanne have 2 buffs This is hardly a Jeanne exclusive issue is my point. I'm not saying she shouldn't get buffs or whatever
For Context, There are currently 364 Servants in JP Only 7 Servants have 4 Buffs Altera, Vlad (Zerk), Emiya, Tesla, Amakusa, Medb & MHX There are 27 with 3 Buffs There are 64 with 2 buffs So in total there are 98 Servants with 2+ Buffs... Out of 364 That's 27%
If you wish to limit it to the first 59 Servants then she's still got more buffs than most so again it's not a Jeanne issue. George, Robin, Lancelot, Gilles (Saber), & Lu Bu all have none. Seriously all the servants used by Green have the same number or less upgrades as her.
Most of the Super Recollection Quests up to this point have been doable with Mash + 1-3 stars... but it takes 60+ turns generally Some of my least favorite content in FGO honestly.
It definitely doesn’t feel rewarding at all for completing it. It’s just the same fight but with inflated health bars and no new gimmicks, and just a way for the minority of whales to flex their minturns/TAs. Had to drag myself to do them since I know I can, but just for the first clears.
Blue card, blue card over paradise, blue card, blue card over paradise, blue rays of the glorious blue card, sending down such a blue blue light, now the animals slowly retreat to the red card, out of sight, green cards blow across the mountains, giving flight to the quicks of prey, in the distance extra's come to transform chains, day by day. Only blue is with us now, something warm and pure, find the cards within ourselves, no need for a QAB. When the quick does none, and the busters gone, the blue card waits to see what rots, oh how pretty, all the scenery, this is Jalter's sacrifice. When the quicks blow through, with a low attack, the busters tail ripped from it's back. When the arts sets, we will not forget the blue card over paradise.
0:33 Sometimes I wish FGO let us customize the what voicelines are used when. We could set it so that every skill, attack, damage taken, and more with Caenis is just DORIYA OCHIROU!
You have to remember that Caenis was unfinished when this fight came the first time. Maybe they just left that (her only using one voice line) as a reference
@@toony1232 Probably that they didn't want to code the fight using Caenis' new animations, since coding takes a hell of a lot to do i wouldn't be surprised if they just left it at that because not only was it easier, fans also thought it was funny
Jeanne is always strong.....miss the time using her to stall boss fight during Arc 1....at that time only manage to use friend support Jeanne into battle...btw Hans & Jeanne still one of the best combo when it comes to stall team setup
She regrettably has a bunch of problems, her stun is somewhat unreliable if you ever do need it and it only works against servants, her NP damage down skill is virtually useless in a vast majority of scenarios and her having no way to boost damage outside of stars makes clears needlessly slow, most of the time. She's still decent, having debuff clear, decent heal, star gen and invincibility, though she often gets side-lined by stupid mechanics like pierce invincibility to basically make Castoria and/or pure damage mandatory. There's still a lot of stuff you can technically clear with her, but why waste hours with her play-style for battles that would take five minutes otherwise? The main problem is that the supports have the toughest competition in the game, especially against the ~five top ones that mostly have better options than Jeanne.
@@IchCharacter of course if we compare her with some kits from newer servants (i.e.Castoria, Lady Avalon) she might not be a better choice/option for newer content...but still doesn't mean she's bad and unplayable...imo Honako just show us that we can still use her if we want to have some fun run without the need to follow meta or popular's pick, besides that this game is free to use any setup as you like without any restriction as long as you can clear the content...its up to you whether want to pick meta servants or make use of any servant's kits as long as you can enjoy the game or content, no need to be so serious, playing game is about having fun and enjoy with the content
Jeanne was the first ssr I had gotten when I started the game and to this day she can really get through even recent quests. I remember soloing surtr with her. Maybe someday along with other servants like emiya, she can get an animation update
@@amari7782 Or rather she does everything much better, with the exception of star gen and heal. Castoria offers massive damage boosts, especially for arts, enables looping with NP gen up and up to 50% charge, gives improved invincibility that's only weak to buff removal and can last multiple turns with overcharge. Her only downside is that without overcharge, it only blocks one hit, especially in fights against multiple AOE NPs this can be a problem. Jeanne has an unreliable servant stun, a few stars per turn and one skill that might as well not even exist in 99% of situations, in addition to her ult, but no way to charge her own NP, much less for the entire team. Jeanne usually needs a fair amount of help from CE/supports to get anything done and 'rewards' you with 1 hour clear times. The price you pay for 'immortality' with her is your own lifespan.
Strange team here. Jeanne works with everyone. Orion can't sleep with artimis because of reasons so he's pure. Hans has a book thing. Jeanne has the bible. Lancelot and her are french. George follows the bible and mashu also doesn't use her sword.
"strange team", I'm sure you haven't see me using mash, miyu, and tamamo as my frontline in summer 5 cq, and miyu is my one and only dps in the entire team
@@mukyumukyun that's not a bad team there. All bases are covered and you got ways to crit and survive especially if you give some cc to each of them. I remember using mashu as a DPS by accident when rama died turn one to many hyper crits so mashu ortanax double Merlin somehow beat a very hard stage when I got the busters set up
Ye, not kust animationbut they need to update the sprites too, I dont know why, but every Servants with Old animations have strange sprites, with Giant heads and lifeless eyes... (ex: old Hans, old Mash, old Ushi, old Medusa, old Kojiro, old Gilgamesh, etc) and still, I HATE the fact that Jalter is more short than Mash, I mean c'mon, a gorgeous evil woman more shorter than a cute teenage girl
I choose her with free ssr ticket. No regret, even though a lot of people advise me to choose other servant since there’s better servant for stall team in the future. Honestly, she need an animation update, buff as well if possible
Caenis (ce): why won't you go down? Jeanne: because I have the power of god and the bible on my side. Caenis: but I am a god Jeanne:false Gods are not apart of my faith. Ozymandias: didn't Moses write something about that?
Jeanne has carried me through all the lost belts and basically solo’s modred back in the Camelot singularity (Modred kept filling the np gauge, i ain’t complaining)
Jeanne and her Tsun Sister is Solid till this day ngl. That NP Upgrade for Jeanne is such a Big Buff and her Sister Atk Stat is just Amazing, it's kinda hard to Buff these two anymore. But atleast give them new Sprites and Animation man.... that Big Head and Outdated Animation is such a pain on my Eyes. Did Lasenge Forgot how popular this Maiden is?
Jeanne isn't the only one who's(whose?) still good. Though, I was able to do this with a 1-4 star team... admittedly, I needed a Black Grail. Still, no SSRs! Well, except Orion :/
While yeah, she is still good, she is no longer top dog with keeping her team immortal, that now goes to anyone with overcharge + castoria, but a lot of people say op comps like that are no fun so what do I know
Tbh, it's fine if she doesn't sit at the top dog seat. She may no longer make the team immortal, but in terms of being a support and a tank, she's still doing fine at that. Though a buff or two can help her.
Pretty much any ST saber can replace his position, tbh. Though you may or may not need a bit more turns to build up the NP if you're using the exact same comp as Green, depending who do you use.
I see... Thank you for the answers of both. Still a turtle team to the core. Well at least it should make things faster than the usual Himiko/Morgan on the go
So I checked Jeanne stats + skillset, and it turns out that her kit is very shitty, even for a year 1 servant. Could really use more buffs in her skillset, as her already buffed NP is good enough for her availability position in perma pool. Istg, I hate her 1st skill that gives star gen and nothing else.
![Lvl 100 Caenis Setup - Nightingale Christmas Challenge Quest [FGO]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/KvQMyFDx498/mqdefault.jpg)
![Lostbelt 7 - Camazotz Boss Fight - Low Stars [FGO]](/img/n.gif)
Jeanne is good and is one of my target servants. I just wish she would get a sprite and attack animation update already and some buffs to her kit
Would be nice if all of Maaya Sakumoto’s Characters got a AU. Except Smol Da Vinci, since she’s the newest of the bunch
You are basically asking everything
7 years in this game and no Animation Update, an only Decent Upgrade while Amakusa already got an MHX treatment and most importantly, got shafted more than once from being the owner of the highest HP in the game. Funny how they haven't done the same to her edgy twins yet
She's gotten 2 upgrades, remember her NP used to stun her for 2 turns
@@aredjayc2858 and asides from that, and her Stun. Never another one
@@ShiraFuyu2022 Astolfo is widely liked and also only has 2 upgrades.
And there are plenty of Year 1 servants without Buffs at all, like Lancelot Zerk. Like the primary team in this Vid, Lancelot Saber, Hans & Jeanne, Lancelot has 1 buff Hans & Jeanne have 2 buffs
This is hardly a Jeanne exclusive issue is my point.
I'm not saying she shouldn't get buffs or whatever
For Context,
There are currently 364 Servants in JP
Only 7 Servants have 4 Buffs
Altera, Vlad (Zerk), Emiya, Tesla, Amakusa, Medb & MHX
There are 27 with 3 Buffs
There are 64 with 2 buffs
So in total there are 98 Servants with 2+ Buffs... Out of 364
That's 27%
If you wish to limit it to the first 59 Servants then she's still got more buffs than most so again it's not a Jeanne issue.
George, Robin, Lancelot, Gilles (Saber), & Lu Bu all have none.
Seriously all the servants used by Green have the same number or less upgrades as her.
"Why won't you die?"
"NanomaJeannes, son!"
Nice pun
Most of the Super Recollection Quests up to this point have been doable with Mash + 1-3 stars... but it takes 60+ turns generally
Some of my least favorite content in FGO honestly.
Tbh i want to try them on NA when i have my maxed out percival
Imagine fighting 1 million HP Wodime without a bunch support to nuke him. I can already feel the dread and braindead.
It definitely doesn’t feel rewarding at all for completing it. It’s just the same fight but with inflated health bars and no new gimmicks, and just a way for the minority of whales to flex their minturns/TAs.
Had to drag myself to do them since I know I can, but just for the first clears.
@@owo4288 idk, if mash has the same buffa than a mash/jeanne/waver can be pretty effective
@@yopoxikeweapescai9066 the only difference is that it takes double, if not triple, the turns now compared to the original lol.
Blue card, blue card over paradise, blue card, blue card over paradise, blue rays of the glorious blue card, sending down such a blue blue light, now the animals slowly retreat to the red card, out of sight, green cards blow across the mountains, giving flight to the quicks of prey, in the distance extra's come to transform chains, day by day. Only blue is with us now, something warm and pure, find the cards within ourselves, no need for a QAB. When the quick does none, and the busters gone, the blue card waits to see what rots, oh how pretty, all the scenery, this is Jalter's sacrifice. When the quicks blow through, with a low attack, the busters tail ripped from it's back. When the arts sets, we will not forget the blue card over paradise.
0:33 Sometimes I wish FGO let us customize the what voicelines are used when.
We could set it so that every skill, attack, damage taken, and more with Caenis is just DORIYA OCHIROU!
You have to remember that Caenis was unfinished when this fight came the first time. Maybe they just left that (her only using one voice line) as a reference
@@toony1232 or they just were lazy to change it
@@toony1232 Probably that they didn't want to code the fight using Caenis' new animations, since coding takes a hell of a lot to do i wouldn't be surprised if they just left it at that because not only was it easier, fans also thought it was funny
We need to see a Dorya Ochirou team someday with Caenis, Arash, Himiko and whoever else has one of those two lines >:D
Ganondorf" "DORIYYAAAAAHH"
If arjuna Alter on LB4 made us feel how it was to be min turned, super recollection quests are to make us feel what being stalled is like
Rest in power, “Rejact rainbow”.
There is no minor spelling mistakes in Ba Sing Se
Jeanne is always strong.....miss the time using her to stall boss fight during Arc 1....at that time only manage to use friend support Jeanne into battle...btw Hans & Jeanne still one of the best combo when it comes to stall team setup
i love hans/merlin too lol, the np gain per turn is awesome
@@AKei1412 not to mention their hp gain and crits stars per turn....its a very fun to use both of their kits
She regrettably has a bunch of problems, her stun is somewhat unreliable if you ever do need it and it only works against servants, her NP damage down skill is virtually useless in a vast majority of scenarios and her having no way to boost damage outside of stars makes clears needlessly slow, most of the time. She's still decent, having debuff clear, decent heal, star gen and invincibility, though she often gets side-lined by stupid mechanics like pierce invincibility to basically make Castoria and/or pure damage mandatory. There's still a lot of stuff you can technically clear with her, but why waste hours with her play-style for battles that would take five minutes otherwise? The main problem is that the supports have the toughest competition in the game, especially against the ~five top ones that mostly have better options than Jeanne.
@@IchCharacter of course if we compare her with some kits from newer servants (i.e.Castoria, Lady Avalon) she might not be a better choice/option for newer content...but still doesn't mean she's bad and unplayable...imo Honako just show us that we can still use her if we want to have some fun run without the need to follow meta or popular's pick, besides that this game is free to use any setup as you like without any restriction as long as you can clear the content...its up to you whether want to pick meta servants or make use of any servant's kits as long as you can enjoy the game or content, no need to be so serious, playing game is about having fun and enjoy with the content
Jeanne was the first ssr I had gotten when I started the game and to this day she can really get through even recent quests. I remember soloing surtr with her. Maybe someday along with other servants like emiya, she can get an animation update
Same here!!!!
DORIYA OCHIYO
I wanna see a Jeanne video with my hope will never die now
Jeanne video; video takes over 15min; checks out.
It's kinda sad how Jeanne has been relegated to the side line by most players because of Castoria, she's pretty cool
Because castoria does everything you’d want from jean except heal.
The fact the enables farming was huge selling point
@@amari7782 Or rather she does everything much better, with the exception of star gen and heal. Castoria offers massive damage boosts, especially for arts, enables looping with NP gen up and up to 50% charge, gives improved invincibility that's only weak to buff removal and can last multiple turns with overcharge. Her only downside is that without overcharge, it only blocks one hit, especially in fights against multiple AOE NPs this can be a problem. Jeanne has an unreliable servant stun, a few stars per turn and one skill that might as well not even exist in 99% of situations, in addition to her ult, but no way to charge her own NP, much less for the entire team. Jeanne usually needs a fair amount of help from CE/supports to get anything done and 'rewards' you with 1 hour clear times. The price you pay for 'immortality' with her is your own lifespan.
Not anymore😊
Strange team here. Jeanne works with everyone. Orion can't sleep with artimis because of reasons so he's pure. Hans has a book thing. Jeanne has the bible. Lancelot and her are french. George follows the bible and mashu also doesn't use her sword.
what does her and Lancelot have to due with her being french?
@@IdiotN4 he's french too.
"strange team", I'm sure you haven't see me using mash, miyu, and tamamo as my frontline in summer 5 cq, and miyu is my one and only dps in the entire team
@@ivanbluecoolThat explains the adultery.
@@mukyumukyun that's not a bad team there. All bases are covered and you got ways to crit and survive especially if you give some cc to each of them.
I remember using mashu as a DPS by accident when rama died turn one to many hyper crits so mashu ortanax double Merlin somehow beat a very hard stage when I got the busters set up
I still can’t believe she (and jalter) don’t have AU’s yet
Ye, not kust animationbut they need to update the sprites too, I dont know why, but every Servants with Old animations have strange sprites, with Giant heads and lifeless eyes... (ex: old Hans, old Mash, old Ushi, old Medusa, old Kojiro, old Gilgamesh, etc)
and still, I HATE the fact that Jalter is more short than Mash, I mean c'mon, a gorgeous evil woman more shorter than a cute teenage girl
@@DanyBlue their about the same height anyway and if that bothers you then ushi is also taller than her as well. Jalters only about 5.2
I choose her with free ssr ticket. No regret, even though a lot of people advise me to choose other servant since there’s better servant for stall team in the future. Honestly, she need an animation update, buff as well if possible
Me sitting Patiently for the Recollection Olympus God Fights
Nobunaga's Time will come.... To show how she dominated Olympus Alone
Caenis (ce): why won't you go down?
Jeanne: because I have the power of god and the bible on my side.
Caenis: but I am a god
Jeanne:false Gods are not apart of my faith.
Ozymandias: didn't Moses write something about that?
Ah yes, the Unkillable Comp. Lancelot, Hans, and Jeanne. And an e-sports Super Orion(?).
Jeanne has carried me through all the lost belts and basically solo’s modred back in the Camelot singularity (Modred kept filling the np gauge, i ain’t complaining)
Yes! I been embracing Arts since starting 2 years ago
10/10 Green, Gilles would be proud ✌️
Jeanne and her Tsun Sister is Solid till this day ngl.
That NP Upgrade for Jeanne is such a Big Buff and her Sister Atk Stat is just Amazing, it's kinda hard to Buff these two anymore.
But atleast give them new Sprites and Animation man.... that Big Head and Outdated Animation is such a pain on my Eyes.
Did Lasenge Forgot how popular this Maiden is?
Hope we get a Jeanne with her second NP as her arsenal for a change.
Jeanne is so strong that Honako doesn't even need to bother upgrading her skills past 5.
I am conditioned to see you adding "This X Servant is forced support" in every fight video that has one.
She always was
This might be the first time I have seen Honako use a five star in one of his videos
Who knew that a servant with teamwide 1t invul, heal and def up for 3 turns and debuff clear on np is good PunWoW
Actually 2T nearly none existent defense up...
@@lunaric5508 It's non-existent at np1 yes, but if you happen to have her at np2 or more, it IS significant
Also it's good either way, as it aids the stall playstyle
Imagine how frustrating this is to Caenis
Ah i can't wait till we get Lancelot and Gawain's Animation updates.
A Grasping Truth is good civ
Jeanne isn't the only one who's(whose?) still good.
Though, I was able to do this with a 1-4 star team... admittedly, I needed a Black Grail. Still, no SSRs! Well, except Orion :/
While yeah, she is still good, she is no longer top dog with keeping her team immortal, that now goes to anyone with overcharge + castoria, but a lot of people say op comps like that are no fun so what do I know
Tbh, it's fine if she doesn't sit at the top dog seat. She may no longer make the team immortal, but in terms of being a support and a tank, she's still doing fine at that. Though a buff or two can help her.
No one is saying she is top dog just that she is still good.
I'd expect them to give Caenis her NP here. I'm suprised they didn't.
Because that wouldn’t make sense due to those being the original fight
AMEN
Jeanne still DESPERATELY needs a tune up. Both Skill and Animation-wise.
Jeanne the very best
Yay more Saberlot content!
Honako you spelled 'reject' wrong in the thumbnail
Can I replace lancelot with hokusai saber in this fight ?
Jean Ruler : im still good on these days ~
Yes, Grandma lets go back to 2nd archive
Wait, they used the incomplete animations rather than her released animations?
Could this work with Hajime instead? I mean, I bet Lancelot's NP battery plays a huge role here.
Actually Lancelot doesn't matter at all. He can be replaced with any number of Sabers.
Yagyu is one of the best carries here.
Pretty much any ST saber can replace his position, tbh. Though you may or may not need a bit more turns to build up the NP if you're using the exact same comp as Green, depending who do you use.
I see... Thank you for the answers of both. Still a turtle team to the core.
Well at least it should make things faster than the usual Himiko/Morgan on the go
すっげ。
What ce did you equip to george?
his bond ce
Jeanne is still good when it comes to stall. You have to remember that Jeanne actually HEALS
Yea but stall comps nowadays got much better options
What’s bgm?
I do have to admit that Castoria got no place in this set up, and I like that
Thats kinda false but ok
So I checked Jeanne stats + skillset, and it turns out that her kit is very shitty, even for a year 1 servant. Could really use more buffs in her skillset, as her already buffed NP is good enough for her availability position in perma pool.
Istg, I hate her 1st skill that gives star gen and nothing else.
I have to admit, Caenis has like 1 voice line, and it gets real annoying real fast