Because there is no comparison, Baker had way better stats. The point was that people are bailing on Josh Rosen even though he basically had the same numbers as Josh Allen and Sam Darnold, yet nobody is bailing on Darnold or Allen. Comparing Rosen to all the rookie QBs wasn't the point.
@@StrongOpinionSports no one is bailing on him though. Its a matter of coaching and scheme. He'll most likely get another shot somewhere else or stick around to compete. If McCarthy went to Arizona they'd be drafting Bosa or trading the pick.
@@MySpinner That's all I need to see..just other Matt Liner or Matt Barkley. He never did anything in college that the average QB did.Never took UCLA nowhere..2017 he was a joke..weak arm cant process information quick enough on NFL level. Mayfield,Sam Donald & Jackson all are better QBs then this dude.9Xs out of 10 they will trade him this year. He will be just other grage QB floating around the League like Matt Liner, Matt Barkley, Matt Flynn, Matt Cassel etc getting paid million for carrying a clip board & eating sunflower seeds..
Yeah the comparison Sam darnold, Josh Rosen, and Josh Allen he just Ignored that Josh Allen also had several rushing touchdowns and 638 rushing yards and Sam darnold has 600 more passing yards and more TDs than interceptions unlike Josh Rosen, but they're similar? Lmao. Josh Rosen is not their guy.
Are you joking?? With all the horrible offense coaching fires, horrible play calls, And zero Offense Line?? He was all on his own out there and even then really only had Fitz to toss to despite all that.. You folks jump off the band wagon way too early. Must be a new gen thing. All I know is they better not draft a new QB that would be two wasted top pics for nothing
@@kingvince7328 Definitely need a new staff we can't know about Rosen until at least decent staff and a o line are in place. I'd give him another season see what transpires. Heck he might even do better elsewhere
bro thats exactly what I was thinking, talks in a similar manner, which is one of the few good things colin does, but this guy is better in every way than cowherd
4 years later, Rosen gets his 2nd Super Bowl ring (but first as starter, cuz you know Brady's getting one more before he retires). Meanwhile, Jimmy G. has only played an average of 6 games per year in San Fran, 'cuz he was too cocky to listen to Brady's advice about pliability. :-D
Splash god I know Allen isn’t the best however, if your talking about completion % and touchdowns, there’s a video on TH-cam that is 5 minutes of his receivers dropping passes. Doesn’t matter how good the quarterback is, if the receivers can’t catch a ball then the quarterback’s stats are going to be bad.
@@brandonwright5792 Possibly the best HS QB of all time. Also a pretty good baseball player. You cant teach that arm, buddy. His floor is Jay Cutler lol Bet you think Dirko over Melo was a solid draft selection too
Amen. With our 2018 O-line, we could have Manning, Brady, Marino, Montana, and Elway under center and still end up with a losing record because you cant play QB with zero protection up front.
One thought on the missed reads. Right before that you talk about bad playcalling. I think people underestimate how much the bad playcalling can hurt the ability to make those reads, especially in a rookie quarterback. If you're constantly winding up with plays where your first and second reads are no good, you sort of start to lose trust in the plays themselves. You go into a play with no confidence that the first or second read will be there, and soon you're not even bothering with trying to read. You start guessing. You start throwing to guys because you just like the route itself, not because its what's actually going to be open. Your brain starts doing things like "we've had good luck on in routes today, so lets throw it to the guy running the in route." Conversely, if the play calls are often right, and your first or second read is open because of it, you stay focused. You get into a rhythm, and soon you're moving through your reads even faster. Getting through to the third read when its necessary stops being difficult. But that's fueled by confidence in the playcalls working.
@John Failphins I don't think you can reasonably expect rookie QBs to be able to do that. But my opinion doesn't really matter there, the fact is NFL coaches never give rookie QBs that kind of leeway. Even a guy like Patrick Mahomes is still on a relatively short leash in terms of what kinds of pre-snap adjustments they're allowed to make. If the Super Bowl is any indication, its the same story for Jared Goff. Difference is, both those QBs have exceedingly competent coaches putting their players in advantageous positions. Going back in time, even guys like Manning or Brady weren't really making big changes at the line until several years in to their career. The problem is that this kind of thing snowballs. If you're regularly in a situation where you've got the worst possible play call for what the defense is doing, it doesn't really matter if you can read what the defense is doing. That kills confidence, and makes it difficult to keep on making the right reads as you start second guessing everything.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but going off of what you said, I think bad playcalling and coaching is what killed Ryan Tannehill. He was raw as hell coming out of college as a converted wide receiver, and until Adam Gase came along, he spent his whole career with coaches who treated him like Rosen was treated last season. I think it's too late for Tannehill at this point to turn it around, but it definitely isn't for Rosen if the new coaching staff puts him in good situations and let him get comfortable. The #1 killer of good QBs is bad coaching, and I think we're seeing it more and more with these inexperienced head coaches throwing rookies into the fire.
A couple words to add to the Jared Goff... Rams defense one of the best in the league....rams offense again....the fact this got a heart is so silly haha
@@letarafisher3712 That's easy Robert woods and brandin cooks are extremely great receivers not to mention they have Gurley catching outta the backfield. Oh and cooper kupp is literally reincarnated wes welker....
@@letarafisher3712 I agree with you though about Jared Goff being an exceptional player I would even agree to an extent that he is elite, but without those players on Jareds team he becomes the phillip rivers of the league great tangibles but no weapons the players Jared have are VERY good players. My thing is we give Josh Rosen breaks he doesnt deserve, Jared can and has made the reads/check downs. Josh Rosen could have every hall of fame receiver, the greatest o line in the history of the NFL he will still make the wrong choices/reads.
That's what happens with smart QBs. They wanna wanna make the right decision so they think about it a little too much. Same thing happened to peyton manning. Manning threw more ints his rookie year than any qb. It will look a lot better once he experiences all of these looks
@GTC Pohorex that is being cautious instead of being smart, being smart here is on doing the right thing at the right timing; being smart is that you extend the play and make better throws, and I cannot see him doing that. He throws slow because he misses reads instead of making better plays. There are other things that may contribute to this performance, but from the vids and his stats there is no fact BY NOW can persuade me he is a smart QB.
Jack Goff What a dumb fucking comment. Guess you can’t talk about anything if you don’t do that specific job..... “Man that movie was bad” “OH WHERES YOUR DIRECTING JOB DUMB FUCK MORON?!!?!” You sound fucking stupid dude. Get over yourself lmao
And rosen lost out to a 10+yr veteran on a Miami team that literally just traded every asset they had to stock pile picks. So they can draft a QB next draft. Miami a crap franchise and wilk forever be terrible
@@ObservingChristian 1st off its here not hear. And u can't even watch dolphins SB highlights with a vcr. That's how long ago it was. U weren't even alive when they won last. U keep on with that. I know it don't make u sleep better. Miami is officially the new Cleveland browns.
No offense, but Kizer was the most overrated qb I've ever seen. He was rated highly bc of his measurables, but that man led Notre Dame to 4 wins, while Everett Golson took them to a championship game. He had the arm and the prototypical look, that's it. He was atrocious as a decision maker.
@@svt_mike66 dude ik more sports than u think, but anyways it's true. I'd put Tim Boyle over Kizer. A good example is Kizer was going down against the Bears, and he softly threw it up and Kalil Mack was right there and took it for 6
Agree with the analysis, As an English Cardinals fan, my opinion is that we stick with Josh. It's annoying that people forget that Payton Manning was really bad his rookie season, so was Troy Aikman, they turned out alright didn't they?? Pluss no other team in the NFL had to resort to practice squad players to fill the holes in their OLine..give the kid a break and a chance.
Tom Brady didn't start his first year and in the first year he did they won on defense and special teams. It took him years to be the Tom Brady everyone knows. Too early to tell on Rosen.
@Hunter Fxxx the Pat's have won consistently without Brady. Bradys teams have always been good. Put him on a bad team like the cards. He won't get far.
We got a stupid good deal. If we didn’t make the trade with the saints we still would have gotten a great deal but after that trade we essentially got Rosen for free.
@Maher Justice Stop calling coaches guru's. Yall said gase was a guru and look how that turned out. Even Marino couldn't help T-hill be great so stop acting like Rosen gone do a complete 180 and be a pro bowl QB. The pick was good value that's it!
Not true that fans are giving up on Rosen. At least 75% of fans are still on board with Rosen from all the posts and blogs and surveys I have seen on the Cardinal's websites I have viewed. Also, there seems to be a lot of animosity towards people pushing for Murray. Just my take.
@@williejohnson5172 No doubt! If they can get a first for Rosen then I would be OK with drafting Murray, but if they trade out of the 1st spot and pick up three 1st rounders(Raiders?!?), I feel that would help the team the most.
@@peter2945 : The scenario you gave is ideal. I just don't think they get that kind of compensation. Quite frankly I'm 99% sure Rosen is gone. The performances of Sweat, Williams, Bosa, and Allen says he is simply too immobile to last behind any line short of the Patriots or Saints. There is a new breed of DL and Rosen just can't stand up to these monsters, at least not behind that Cardinal OL. And it's going to take at least a year for that line to gel even if they draft super well and get all world talent.
This is my first time here on your channel, I gotta say I was blown away by you're analysis and the way you carried yourself throughout the video. I love how you were able to seperate opinions and emotion, having had some sort of interaction with Rosen in the past and being a former QB yourself. You got my support fully and hell yea I'm gonna share your channel with all my friends and groups... I love how you break down film step by step and how you looked at everything in different perspectives.. I see the passion in your face, I can hear the passion through your voice.. This turned into a long comment, my apologies. But keep doing what you're doing man, you're going to succeed and I can't wait to see you grow and grow .
This channel has absolutely blown up in the last few months. Really good job getting your name out there man. Congrats. Hopefully some network picks you up for your analysis soon.
Great video! You should do a video similar to this, but on Kirk Cousins. Vikings fans despise him. Although imo, it was because of the OC and OL. Would love to hear your analysis!
I subscribed and shared. Your podcast was a refreshing change from hearing sport casters yell opinions instead of facts. I'm looking to forward to more content. Especially now film review. As someone who never personally played organized sports. It's was intriguing to see it done.
I really enjoy how you present your arguments. It's very down the middle, and you are totally informed on what you're talking about. Subscribed before the video is even done.
As a die hard DolFan and a future business owner myself I want to say that you're a rising star in your industry, you were able to get me going in a 22 minute video and I want you to understand that the best part of this video is when your talking from 19:34 - 21:02, now that is passion! I can make a Joe Namath guarantee that you will get what you want and how you want it, so congrat on your future success!
I wasn’t for the trade for Rosen at first but I’m realizing that we got a great value for him and next year we’re going to have over 10 picks. Good analysis here. I think these are habits Rosen can be coached out of so I’m excited
The problem with that play was it was essentially a pick play and Rosen threw it to the picker lol Based on timing he has to throw it to him though in terms of not wanting the WR to get offensive PI
This was a great breakdown of Rosen's struggles this past year, and I am so glad that it happened to pop up on my home page. Subscribed to your channel halfway through the video, I can't wait to go back through and watch your other stuff.
A lot of the points you're mentioning, are true but at the same time he's getting pressure all season so he's hearing footsteps.. if you pause it he's getting pressure. And when Rosen gets pressure he panics.. best thing the cardinals to do is secure their line. If Rosen had a line like Tom Brady he could be really good
Brady helps the O line with his quick reads and throws, exposes them less. Its an average passing oline but great at runs. You saw what happened to Nate Solder once he left NE, not very good.
@@Necron023 are you kidding me?? The Patriots line held the record for not having Brady sacked in the playoffs, not even touched.. he can be in there for 2 minutes and still doesn't get sacked
sedric lopez please watch Bradys pocket movement, awareness and passing time before simply concluding its all Oline, was saying the pats oline dominance has alot to do with how good brady is also,.
@@IGOTGAMEAJ not to mention a pass catching rb Kenyan drake. A pass catching te gesicki plus Isiah Ford is still in the squad. What we don't have but slow putting together is a good oline. A good oline is not only good starters but good back ups
@@Njbear7453 wow who cares about what he did late in the season. Our season was dead by that time. There's no pressure. When we needed him ball in times where it was important he failed miserably. I'm not hating on darnold. I'm a darnold supporter. I'm a jets fan. But that year he had was so bad. I seen some potential. I hope he is better next season
Great breakdown sir. I'm not a Cardinals fan (obviously lol) but I really like Rosen. Definitely deserves another year, like all rookie QBs, to work on timing, accuracy, mechanics, etc. But if not, he'd look really sharp in Black and Gold! 😜😁
You did a unbelievable job! Very interesting video compared to the stupid opinions of the media. I too thought josh rosen showed a lot of promise and I would be devastated to let him go. I would actually have 9th takeaway, that josh rosen showed resilience throughout the season even though he had zero help. That resilience impressed the veterans on this team.
Bro, your honestly amazing. On some real shit, the passion, your words and the eloquence to deliver is great. I hope you achieve your dreams because I believe in you.
Idk what’s more compelling to want you and this podcast to be successful. how much you truly and obviously love what you’re doing or the fact that you really do your homework. I wish you nothing but luck my man
Agree on not giving up on a guy you just drafted. But the rookie numbers he showed were different, 58% you have some promise, 55% you are entering a scary area in either accuracy or taking too long, and 52% is entering historic bad area for a high first rounder with 2000 yards of throws. I would say even TD/Int is good for a rookie, again he is in scary territory but you would have to look at the interceptions to know. Interceptions late in a game or last drive of the half are not as weighty, interceptions inside the red zone from around the 50 aren't as bad because making plays into the red zone from that position on the field translates into points, it better to have 1 TD and 2 Int in the red zone over 3 punts.
Bro imagine if they draft Bosa and take 1 of many big name DTs in free agency this year to pair with Chandler Jones. All the sudden they could be looking at a situation where the offense only has to put up 17-21 points to win every game
it was intentional, baker blew every other rookie out of the water, the point was how similar he is to Darnold and Allen but how different of a reception he got!
If the chargers pick him up and let him develop under rivers for a year or two. With allen,willims,Gordon as weapons and that chargers defense to back him up I believe he can be very good. I wont say great yet because it depends on his will to get better
A phenomenal, in depth review of a young quarterback that people are giving up on. A lot of people underestimate all things that go into the game of football for someone like Josh Rosen to succeed. GREAT REVIEW
Your Breakdown analysis perspectives are coaching issues. Rosen is doing what the coach is telling him to do in a passing situation that has ZERO running game. I believe Rosen will do well with the Dolphins as the focus will be on a ground game first allowing play action similar to the Rams offence. If you look at his good plays rather than just the bad plays he does a really good job with progression and controlling the safeties with looks and adjustments pre snap. And makes some great throws. Time will tell.
@@INVERTEDBUKAKI So your telling me a 21 year old rookie QB in the NFL doesn't listen to what the coaches are telling him to do? I guess Rosen draws up his own plays and calls his own plays, right. Rosen also had 2 head coaches and 3 Offensive Coordinators in one year. Another Millennial keyboard genius, go play some more Madden football. lol
@@StraightF1ush22 because the man has a really good oline. Something rosen doesn't have. Even when they're bad coaching fixes them. The Pat's have one of the greatest coaches under bill.
Sir you are growing on me, I like your analysis's and your understanding of coverages and quarterback progressions. I like your evaluation, be it good or bad on the quarterback position, specially Josh Rosen. Looking forward to more content. Sir you have a good day and keep up the good work!
I'm watching the first few clips thinking.. "man he is hitching really bad, what is he doing that for?!" ... And then you immediately went into discussion about him hitching up. Great work!
dolphins fan that just started doing a bunch of research of rosen since the trade, and I just so happened to stumble on this video. Your analysis was great you clearly have very good football knowledge for a college student, and I’m grateful to have gotten such an in depth analysis on Josh Rosen. So many people are just like oh he’s gonna be the next franchise qb, or he sucks terrible trade, but you actually took the time to thoroughly break it down. Don’t know what you’re studying in college but I could definitely see you having a non-player football centric career in the future.
Love your podcast man! Keep up the hard work. I believe you can really make it. You are incredibly knowledgeable and passionate about what you do. That mixed with good work ethic and anything is possible. For sure will share with all friends. You got this bro!
Liked, subscribed, and I just told my dad about your channel. I like how you actually show video of yourself talking rather than editing the crap out of your videos. Makes it feel more real. Keep up the strong work 👍🏻
I subbed... but you see the way my Facebook account is setup, by which I mean it's deleted, I can't share there. I can do the twitter thing doe. Good luck
Thanks for the great breakdown. As a die hard giants fan I've been forced to think a lot about Rosen the past week. I have a few thoughts after your analysis: one, I don't understand how so many giants fans think Eli needs to go and that a Rosen arrival would signal the salvation of our franchise. Eli is completely immobile, that's a big problem, but that's kind of where his problems end. All the myriad mistakes you described Rosen making, Eli makes none of them. In fact, Rosen's weaknesses are Eli's greatest strengths: he has an extremely high football IQ, checks in and out plays seamlessly and accurately, goes through his progressions quickly and delivers the ball on time, he knows his defenses in and out and assigns his protections with ease. I fail to see how swapping Eli for Rosen would result in a huge uptick in the win column. Two, what the hell? Last year we were told Darnold, Baker, and Allen were more of the brash gunslinger types, but Rosen was a high intellect prospect with a beautiful throw. After this analysis it appears his Achilles heel thus far is his football IQ and processing speed, his supposed strengths... that's not good.
Uh bruh... no cardinals fans are bailing on Josh Rosen. We want to keep him and draft Bosa (or trade down if a good enough offer presents itself). The media on the other hand wants us to trade Rosen and draft Kyler Murray.
It is so refreshing to hear somebody tell you how dedicated they are to the content they make AFTER presenting it to you and showing you the quality of the content. So much pandering is in the beginning of a video now, but people just clicked and if all you showed is pandering what are they supporting? They haven't even had a chance to find out. This guy is going places great marketing for a big big need in the industry of sports. In depth young QB season review with unbiased fact based information. I just subbed and hit the bell won't be missing one video.
Wow, I really enjoy your film breakdowns. You really look at everything and talk with knowledge. Definitely subscribing. I’d love for you to do one of these on Darnold though
May I ask what college u attend lol I’m an aspiring Sports Analysis as well & I really appreciate the grind and the drive!! That’s the reason I started my TH-cam channel!! To practice my sports analysis skills so I can b like Stephen A Smith, Colin Cowherd etc! So keep up the good work man I’m definitely going to tell people about your channel!!
Great analysis but did you speak to a front office executive? Have a divorce? Realize Thicc and Trunky are enviable features? Yeah that’s what I thought...
Why not compare him to Baker Mayfield tho?
Because there is no comparison, Baker had way better stats. The point was that people are bailing on Josh Rosen even though he basically had the same numbers as Josh Allen and Sam Darnold, yet nobody is bailing on Darnold or Allen. Comparing Rosen to all the rookie QBs wasn't the point.
Because there no comparison!
@@StrongOpinionSports no one is bailing on him though. Its a matter of coaching and scheme. He'll most likely get another shot somewhere else or stick around to compete. If McCarthy went to Arizona they'd be drafting Bosa or trading the pick.
@@terrancereese7699 hold your horses it's one season
@@MySpinner That's all I need to see..just other Matt Liner or Matt Barkley. He never did anything in college that the average QB did.Never took UCLA nowhere..2017 he was a joke..weak arm cant process information quick enough on NFL level. Mayfield,Sam Donald & Jackson all are better QBs then this dude.9Xs out of 10 they will trade him this year. He will be just other grage QB floating around the League like Matt Liner, Matt Barkley, Matt Flynn, Matt Cassel etc getting paid million for carrying a clip board & eating sunflower seeds..
Honestly one of the most intriguing reviews on a player that I have seen in a long time. Not a Rosen fan but facts are facts.
Yeah the comparison Sam darnold, Josh Rosen, and Josh Allen he just Ignored that Josh Allen also had several rushing touchdowns and 638 rushing yards and Sam darnold has 600 more passing yards and more TDs than interceptions unlike Josh Rosen, but they're similar? Lmao. Josh Rosen is not their guy.
Are you joking?? With all the horrible offense coaching fires, horrible play calls, And zero Offense Line?? He was all on his own out there and even then really only had Fitz to toss to despite all that.. You folks jump off the band wagon way too early. Must be a new gen thing. All I know is they better not draft a new QB that would be two wasted top pics for nothing
@@michaeltester2537 Good point. Though I still think the comparison was ignorant. Cardinals need new staff.
@@kingvince7328 Definitely need a new staff we can't know about Rosen until at least decent staff and a o line are in place. I'd give him another season see what transpires. Heck he might even do better elsewhere
@@michaeltester2537 If I had to put money on it I would bet that Josh Allen is the one out of the draft to fail.
You look like a young Michael rapaport
They all look alike... Of coarse he defends Rosen. The tribe defends their own.
@@enkiea8322 ??
I think he looks more like corey taylor from slipknot
when i clicked on this video it was cuz i thought it was a picture of michael rapaport in the thumbnail lmao
Both Michael and peter schrager
Earned yourself a subscriber, I hate when people pile up on rookies. The NFL is so much different than college, just give them a chance.
thank you!
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Didn’t age well
you're what Colin Cowherd wishes he could be. Keep up the good work
bro thats exactly what I was thinking, talks in a similar manner, which is one of the few good things colin does, but this guy is better in every way than cowherd
Riley And he isn’t a complete ass
This guy analysis are so good...but in term of status, he wishes he could be Colin.
bassfunkmaster85 Colin doesnt review film, nor analyzes stats. Its just one persons opinion based on emotion
@@seducuction This dude literally watches Colin and clearly tries to emulate.
Bill Belichick: You wanna trade him for peanuts?
If Arizona grabs a QB this draft I could see that happening
Allen had worst stats
If Rosen goes to the patriots that would be scary mark my words . Next Brady ?
4 years later, Rosen gets his 2nd Super Bowl ring (but first as starter, cuz you know Brady's getting one more before he retires).
Meanwhile, Jimmy G. has only played an average of 6 games per year in San Fran, 'cuz he was too cocky to listen to Brady's advice about pliability. :-D
Splash god I know Allen isn’t the best however, if your talking about completion % and touchdowns, there’s a video on TH-cam that is 5 minutes of his receivers dropping passes. Doesn’t matter how good the quarterback is, if the receivers can’t catch a ball then the quarterback’s stats are going to be bad.
From cardinals fans, the only people bailing on Rosen are non cardinals fans thinking were bailing but we'd rather keep Rosen and get bosa
Dark Demonik hell no
Dark Demonik what was Murray before OU & Lincoln Riley?
@Dark Demonik remember what you said cause you're gonna be a fan when he becomes better
@@brandonwright5792 Possibly the best HS QB of all time. Also a pretty good baseball player. You cant teach that arm, buddy. His floor is Jay Cutler lol
Bet you think Dirko over Melo was a solid draft selection too
Amen. With our 2018 O-line, we could have Manning, Brady, Marino, Montana, and Elway under center and still end up with a losing record because you cant play QB with zero protection up front.
One thought on the missed reads. Right before that you talk about bad playcalling. I think people underestimate how much the bad playcalling can hurt the ability to make those reads, especially in a rookie quarterback. If you're constantly winding up with plays where your first and second reads are no good, you sort of start to lose trust in the plays themselves. You go into a play with no confidence that the first or second read will be there, and soon you're not even bothering with trying to read. You start guessing. You start throwing to guys because you just like the route itself, not because its what's actually going to be open. Your brain starts doing things like "we've had good luck on in routes today, so lets throw it to the guy running the in route." Conversely, if the play calls are often right, and your first or second read is open because of it, you stay focused. You get into a rhythm, and soon you're moving through your reads even faster. Getting through to the third read when its necessary stops being difficult. But that's fueled by confidence in the playcalls working.
@John Failphins I don't think you can reasonably expect rookie QBs to be able to do that. But my opinion doesn't really matter there, the fact is NFL coaches never give rookie QBs that kind of leeway.
Even a guy like Patrick Mahomes is still on a relatively short leash in terms of what kinds of pre-snap adjustments they're allowed to make. If the Super Bowl is any indication, its the same story for Jared Goff. Difference is, both those QBs have exceedingly competent coaches putting their players in advantageous positions.
Going back in time, even guys like Manning or Brady weren't really making big changes at the line until several years in to their career.
The problem is that this kind of thing snowballs. If you're regularly in a situation where you've got the worst possible play call for what the defense is doing, it doesn't really matter if you can read what the defense is doing. That kills confidence, and makes it difficult to keep on making the right reads as you start second guessing everything.
@@BigIronEnjoyer Baker with Tod Haley was bad, Baker with Kitchens just goes to show how much a coach affects a rookie QB.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but going off of what you said, I think bad playcalling and coaching is what killed Ryan Tannehill. He was raw as hell coming out of college as a converted wide receiver, and until Adam Gase came along, he spent his whole career with coaches who treated him like Rosen was treated last season. I think it's too late for Tannehill at this point to turn it around, but it definitely isn't for Rosen if the new coaching staff puts him in good situations and let him get comfortable. The #1 killer of good QBs is bad coaching, and I think we're seeing it more and more with these inexperienced head coaches throwing rookies into the fire.
Might have helped the rookie QB if Arizona wasn't DFL in Rushing...just sayin'
That’s a very astute observation, well said
Watching every game he’s started in, then analyzing back against college and high school... that’s how you earn a sub!
Awesome video man.
Two words : Jared Goff.
You can never be sure if a QB is bad during there first year, maybe even there second
A couple words to add to the Jared Goff... Rams defense one of the best in the league....rams offense again....the fact this got a heart is so silly haha
@@djjenkins3224 Jared Goff was an elite passer last year, please name one elite receiver on the rams
@@letarafisher3712 That's easy Robert woods and brandin cooks are extremely great receivers not to mention they have Gurley catching outta the backfield. Oh and cooper kupp is literally reincarnated wes welker....
@@djjenkins3224 ill give you brandin cooks but it takes an elite passer to put up the stats he did last year, he aint no trent dilfer
@@letarafisher3712 I agree with you though about Jared Goff being an exceptional player I would even agree to an extent that he is elite, but without those players on Jareds team he becomes the phillip rivers of the league great tangibles but no weapons the players Jared have are VERY good players. My thing is we give Josh Rosen breaks he doesnt deserve, Jared can and has made the reads/check downs. Josh Rosen could have every hall of fame receiver, the greatest o line in the history of the NFL he will still make the wrong choices/reads.
Just found your page today. Already watched four different videos. Enjoyed them all!
You know man. I loved this. You are really knowledgeable.
That's what happens with smart QBs. They wanna wanna make the right decision so they think about it a little too much. Same thing happened to peyton manning. Manning threw more ints his rookie year than any qb. It will look a lot better once he experiences all of these looks
Taking a longer time to make a decision means he is not smart at all...
very true
@GTC Pohorex that is being cautious instead of being smart, being smart here is on doing the right thing at the right timing; being smart is that you extend the play and make better throws, and I cannot see him doing that. He throws slow because he misses reads instead of making better plays. There are other things that may contribute to this performance, but from the vids and his stats there is no fact BY NOW can persuade me he is a smart QB.
@Jack Goff Do you have to play for NFL before you can comment? then why bothering discussing NFL?
Jack Goff What a dumb fucking comment. Guess you can’t talk about anything if you don’t do that specific job..... “Man that movie was bad” “OH WHERES YOUR DIRECTING JOB DUMB FUCK MORON?!!?!” You sound fucking stupid dude. Get over yourself lmao
This is dope. Make more please.
Thanks for this miami dolphins just traded for him.
This guy is great. I learned a lot from this guy.
Speedboat Cafe me too
And rosen lost out to a 10+yr veteran on a Miami team that literally just traded every asset they had to stock pile picks. So they can draft a QB next draft. Miami a crap franchise and wilk forever be terrible
Jay Carroll haha if we are horrible from hear on out we still have two rings
@@ObservingChristian 1st off its here not hear. And u can't even watch dolphins SB highlights with a vcr. That's how long ago it was. U weren't even alive when they won last. U keep on with that. I know it don't make u sleep better. Miami is officially the new Cleveland browns.
He has potential, but like kizer, he was thrown into a situation that he couldn't control.
No offense, but Kizer was the most overrated qb I've ever seen. He was rated highly bc of his measurables, but that man led Notre Dame to 4 wins, while Everett Golson took them to a championship game. He had the arm and the prototypical look, that's it. He was atrocious as a decision maker.
Lmao Kizer is trash he makes terrible decisions
@@liltatertot220 who are you? You seem like you don't really know much about sports, like at all kid.
@@santiagoulloa1694 Every one has an opinion.
@@svt_mike66 dude ik more sports than u think, but anyways it's true. I'd put Tim Boyle over Kizer. A good example is Kizer was going down against the Bears, and he softly threw it up and Kalil Mack was right there and took it for 6
Agree with the analysis,
As an English Cardinals fan, my opinion is that we stick with Josh.
It's annoying that people forget that Payton Manning was really bad his rookie season, so was Troy Aikman, they turned out alright didn't they??
Pluss no other team in the NFL had to resort to practice squad players to fill the holes in their OLine..give the kid a break and a chance.
@Erik Lerström dont forget that D system didn't fit the team either so it was just a bad team system all around
Lol manning broke the rookie record for most completions, yards , and tds his rookie year.
@Erik Lerström case Keenum is not mobile and did fine with him
@@thatguy4540 people forget that Peyton also broke multiple rookie passing records along with his interception record
@@thatguy4540 And INTs you forgot that one...
Tom Brady didn't start his first year and in the first year he did they won on defense and special teams. It took him years to be the Tom Brady everyone knows. Too early to tell on Rosen.
Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th round .Don't compare him to Josh Rosen who was drafted first round.
Tom won a ring his first starting season, NO comparison
@@tropicmix8765 2800 yards, 18td, 12 int very close to Rosen stats. His coach, defense and special teams won that title
@@Someguy-j9e he didnt start the whole season and was sb mvp not close to rosen
@Hunter Fxxx the Pat's have won consistently without Brady. Bradys teams have always been good. Put him on a bad team like the cards. He won't get far.
Wow this was a next level video dude. You definitely know what you’re talking about and how to get the point across. Definitely earned a sub here
Couldn't Say it Better myself! Great Job young man!.
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So what your saying is his main problems was timing and understanding defenses quickly and reacting. That sounds like every rookie to me
Not Kyler Murray. So glad the Cards were smart enough to trade Rosen and take a true franchise QB.
Thank you for this, Dolphins are talking about picking Rosen and I needed this to believe in my teams decision.
Me to
Same here. And keep in mind Miami would not be giving up a 1st rd pick and would be inheriting a ridiculously cheap contract.
We got a stupid good deal. If we didn’t make the trade with the saints we still would have gotten a great deal but after that trade we essentially got Rosen for free.
So after this review you're still ok with the dolphins taking him?
@Maher Justice Stop calling coaches guru's. Yall said gase was a guru and look how that turned out. Even Marino couldn't help T-hill be great so stop acting like Rosen gone do a complete 180 and be a pro bowl QB. The pick was good value that's it!
Not true that fans are giving up on Rosen. At least 75% of fans are still on board with Rosen from all the posts and blogs and surveys I have seen on the Cardinal's websites I have viewed. Also, there seems to be a lot of animosity towards people pushing for Murray. Just my take.
Great video by the way...
Peter: Rosen and Kyler on the same team is bound to be a disaster. The fans will love one and hate the other.
@@williejohnson5172 No doubt! If they can get a first for Rosen then I would be OK with drafting Murray, but if they trade out of the 1st spot and pick up three 1st rounders(Raiders?!?), I feel that would help the team the most.
@@peter2945 : The scenario you gave is ideal. I just don't think they get that kind of compensation. Quite frankly I'm 99% sure Rosen is gone. The performances of Sweat, Williams, Bosa, and Allen says he is simply too immobile to last behind any line short of the Patriots or Saints. There is a new breed of DL and Rosen just can't stand up to these monsters, at least not behind that Cardinal OL. And it's going to take at least a year for that line to gel even if they draft super well and get all world talent.
True but I'm part of that 25% that is not on abroad and wasn't ever really on board, didn't like him in college and don't like him now
Great video. Earned a sub with the non biased and informative breakdown!
This is my first time here on your channel, I gotta say I was blown away by you're analysis and the way you carried yourself throughout the video. I love how you were able to seperate opinions and emotion, having had some sort of interaction with Rosen in the past and being a former QB yourself. You got my support fully and hell yea I'm gonna share your channel with all my friends and groups... I love how you break down film step by step and how you looked at everything in different perspectives.. I see the passion in your face, I can hear the passion through your voice.. This turned into a long comment, my apologies. But keep doing what you're doing man, you're going to succeed and I can't wait to see you grow and grow .
Elli chacon thank you so much, I really appreciate you watching✊🏻
This channel has absolutely blown up in the last few months. Really good job getting your name out there man. Congrats. Hopefully some network picks you up for your analysis soon.
Dude, you're absolutely fantastic. This is really informative. Definitely earned a subscriber in me. Can't wait to watch more of your vids.
Speaking as an Arizona Cardinals Fan, we are definitely not giving up on Josh Rosen. This was a very fair analysis, thanks for the vid!
Chad Rosenberg
Your team is though.
I'm not a Cardinals fan but I heard that with the new coaching staff, that's the biggest reason for why they might get rid of him.
I'm a cards fan and I don't want Murray
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Your coach wants Murry though.
@@tonyzan5268 why cause he said that before he was the coach things change.
Great video! You should do a video similar to this, but on Kirk Cousins. Vikings fans despise him. Although imo, it was because of the OC and OL. Would love to hear your analysis!
Fascinating video.. Jets fan all day
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Jets!
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I subscribed and shared. Your podcast was a refreshing change from hearing sport casters yell opinions instead of facts. I'm looking to forward to more content. Especially now film review. As someone who never personally played organized sports. It's was intriguing to see it done.
I really enjoy how you present your arguments. It's very down the middle, and you are totally informed on what you're talking about. Subscribed before the video is even done.
thank you for watching!
As a die hard DolFan and a future business owner myself I want to say that you're a rising star in your industry, you were able to get me going in a 22 minute video and I want you to understand that the best part of this video is when your talking from 19:34 - 21:02, now that is passion! I can make a Joe Namath guarantee that you will get what you want and how you want it, so congrat on your future success!
Please keep doing what you’re doing, it may take a while but you’ll be successful with this
I wasn’t for the trade for Rosen at first but I’m realizing that we got a great value for him and next year we’re going to have over 10 picks. Good analysis here. I think these are habits Rosen can be coached out of so I’m excited
13 picks as of now
That "Levels" concept was actually a "Mesh" concept. But I still like your video.
I would love to hear you break down Jameis Winston because my Opinion goes back and fourth every game he plays.
6:21 josh Rosen played almost the entire season. The other rookie quarterbacks both got hurt and missed extended time.
Whats hilarious is rosen took way more hits too
12:26 dude running the slant on the opposite side of the field was WIDE open
The problem with that play was it was essentially a pick play and Rosen threw it to the picker lol
Based on timing he has to throw it to him though in terms of not wanting the WR to get offensive PI
Is it just me, or does this guy seem like he's literally preaching football?
This is an immensely accurate and underrated comment
Really enjoy your film break downs. Definitely recommending your channel to friends.
This was a great breakdown of Rosen's struggles this past year, and I am so glad that it happened to pop up on my home page. Subscribed to your channel halfway through the video, I can't wait to go back through and watch your other stuff.
A lot of the points you're mentioning, are true but at the same time he's getting pressure all season so he's hearing footsteps.. if you pause it he's getting pressure. And when Rosen gets pressure he panics.. best thing the cardinals to do is secure their line. If Rosen had a line like Tom Brady he could be really good
I hear what you're saying but, a better line won't change much until he figures out to read defenses at a NFL speed man.
@@RedStripe_Genie no qb will succeed with the line he had so yes a better line does matter
Brady helps the O line with his quick reads and throws, exposes them less. Its an average passing oline but great at runs. You saw what happened to Nate Solder once he left NE, not very good.
@@Necron023 are you kidding me?? The Patriots line held the record for not having Brady sacked in the playoffs, not even touched.. he can be in there for 2 minutes and still doesn't get sacked
sedric lopez please watch Bradys pocket movement, awareness and passing time before simply concluding its all Oline, was saying the pats oline dominance has alot to do with how good brady is also,.
As a Bills fan I’d LOVE for one on Josh Allen , good review
Jonny Wood all of Bills Mafia would come and see we need more people who want to cover Buffalo
He will now have one of the best Offensive coaches in Jim Caldwell
Lmao thats a funny joke. Who do the dolphins actually got... No one their offense suck hard
Drake, Stills,Parker, Albert Willson ,Jakeem Grant the fastest WR core in the NFL
@@IGOTGAMEAJ not to mention a pass catching rb Kenyan drake. A pass catching te gesicki plus Isiah Ford is still in the squad. What we don't have but slow putting together is a good oline. A good oline is not only good starters but good back ups
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Jim Caldwell is trash. He's just another failure head coach who mismanaged the lions
This analysis was really really good. Subscribed. Great job!
From another QB, you know your stuff man. It’s awesome what you’re doing. You deserve your own show! Keep it up brother!
Zach Fogel thanks so much man✊🏻
Great in depth video, maybe a video about my boy Sam Darnold?
Michael Fraser I mean he out played Rodgers and Watson in he games they played but that probably doesn’t mean anything
Gears1Fan all 5 of the rookie qbs
Dennis Garcia He didn’t outplay Rodgers, but he did trade with him
Sam darnold was the best quarterback according to PFF from weeks 14- 17 when he came back after being hurt.
@@Njbear7453 wow who cares about what he did late in the season. Our season was dead by that time. There's no pressure. When we needed him ball in times where it was important he failed miserably. I'm not hating on darnold. I'm a darnold supporter. I'm a jets fan. But that year he had was so bad. I seen some potential. I hope he is better next season
13:16 slant was wide open coming from the left side
I’m a Cardinals fan and I stand with Rosen. Give him another year.
I'm a Cardinals fan and we can draft murray and let them fight it out the next couple years. Murray is intriguing...
The Giants hopefully trade for him
And an offensive line.
FWU - Finally Waking Up Murray is intriguing but we need to use the number one pick for a needed position.
Your scouting is extremely LEGITIMATE!! I want Rosen to Miami for 1st Round pick and possibly 3rd!
Really interesting commentary. You deserve a lot more subs!
Ben Scott thank you👊🏻
Great breakdown sir. I'm not a Cardinals fan (obviously lol) but I really like Rosen. Definitely deserves another year, like all rookie QBs, to work on timing, accuracy, mechanics, etc. But if not, he'd look really sharp in Black and Gold! 😜😁
You did a unbelievable job! Very interesting video compared to the stupid opinions of the media. I too thought josh rosen showed a lot of promise and I would be devastated to let him go. I would actually have 9th takeaway, that josh rosen showed resilience throughout the season even though he had zero help. That resilience impressed the veterans on this team.
Thank you for your comment, I appreciate it tremendously! Also I agree with your 9th takeaway, he certainly kept fighting all season, I respect that.
Strong Opinion Sports nfl network should sign you to a contract as a guest
youre very good at analyzing. if you could analyze receivers that would be fun to watch also
Bro, your honestly amazing. On some real shit, the passion, your words and the eloquence to deliver is great. I hope you achieve your dreams because I believe in you.
Idk what’s more compelling to want you and this podcast to be successful. how much you truly and obviously love what you’re doing or the fact that you really do your homework. I wish you nothing but luck my man
Rosen will be better this season. Draft bosa #1
Agree on not giving up on a guy you just drafted. But the rookie numbers he showed were different, 58% you have some promise, 55% you are entering a scary area in either accuracy or taking too long, and 52% is entering historic bad area for a high first rounder with 2000 yards of throws. I would say even TD/Int is good for a rookie, again he is in scary territory but you would have to look at the interceptions to know. Interceptions late in a game or last drive of the half are not as weighty, interceptions inside the red zone from around the 50 aren't as bad because making plays into the red zone from that position on the field translates into points, it better to have 1 TD and 2 Int in the red zone over 3 punts.
@@mykofreder1682 His completion rate is partly due to very bad wide receiver play. He is very accurate, but just sometimes makes bad reads.
DK METCALF ...is a Super Star
#nobosa
Bro imagine if they draft Bosa and take 1 of many big name DTs in free agency this year to pair with Chandler Jones. All the sudden they could be looking at a situation where the offense only has to put up 17-21 points to win every game
Casually omiting Baker's Rookie stats when comparing the state lines. lol. Loved the vid though!
it was intentional, baker blew every other rookie out of the water, the point was how similar he is to Darnold and Allen but how different of a reception he got!
Baker had one of the best rookie QB seasons ever...
If the chargers pick him up and let him develop under rivers for a year or two. With allen,willims,Gordon as weapons and that chargers defense to back him up I believe he can be very good. I wont say great yet because it depends on his will to get better
A phenomenal, in depth review of a young quarterback that people are giving up on. A lot of people underestimate all things that go into the game of football for someone like Josh Rosen to succeed. GREAT REVIEW
Lowkey just stayed up two hours watching these.... Thank God it is Spring Break😂 u earned a Sub my man.
Your Breakdown analysis perspectives are coaching issues. Rosen is doing what the coach is telling him to do in a passing situation that has ZERO running game. I believe Rosen will do well with the Dolphins as the focus will be on a ground game first allowing play action similar to the Rams offence. If you look at his good plays rather than just the bad plays he does a really good job with progression and controlling the safeties with looks and adjustments pre snap. And makes some great throws. Time will tell.
lol @you
@@INVERTEDBUKAKI So your telling me a 21 year old rookie QB in the NFL doesn't listen to what the coaches are telling him to do? I guess Rosen draws up his own plays and calls his own plays, right. Rosen also had 2 head coaches and 3 Offensive Coordinators in one year. Another Millennial keyboard genius, go play some more Madden football. lol
Very professionally done video
All of this is coachable tbh
Reekobama exactly
All but the mobility/speed
@@matthewbeaver5026 but Tom Brady can't move for shit and hes the goat so
@@StraightF1ush22 because the man has a really good oline. Something rosen doesn't have. Even when they're bad coaching fixes them. The Pat's have one of the greatest coaches under bill.
@@StraightF1ush22 mobile is a relative term. In the pocket Bradys footwork is second to none .
Sir you are growing on me, I like your analysis's and your understanding of coverages and quarterback progressions. I like your evaluation, be it good or bad on the quarterback position, specially Josh Rosen. Looking forward to more content. Sir you have a good day and keep up the good work!
I'm watching the first few clips thinking.. "man he is hitching really bad, what is he doing that for?!" ... And then you immediately went into discussion about him hitching up.
Great work!
Somebody just earned another sub and fan, keep it up 👍
awesome video brother keep it up !
Good video. One on Jameis Winston would be great. Another qb ppl are undecided on
Oh I've decided. He trash!!!
dolphins fan that just started doing a bunch of research of rosen since the trade, and I just so happened to stumble on this video. Your analysis was great you clearly have very good football knowledge for a college student, and I’m grateful to have gotten such an in depth analysis on Josh Rosen. So many people are just like oh he’s gonna be the next franchise qb, or he sucks terrible trade, but you actually took the time to thoroughly break it down. Don’t know what you’re studying in college but I could definitely see you having a non-player football centric career in the future.
Great analysis. Looking forward to following you throughout the season
Excellent presentation, Sub and like from me, looking forward to more.
Im in miami.thanks for the great analysis 2nd year should be better if not good backup 2 mil a year not bad and get some qb competition
Can you please do something like this on James Washington?
Love your podcast man! Keep up the hard work. I believe you can really make it. You are incredibly knowledgeable and passionate about what you do. That mixed with good work ethic and anything is possible. For sure will share with all friends. You got this bro!
Feels like you are a professor lecturing a class and I like it.
"Josh can be a great QB."
ONE YEAR LATER
Tua Tagovailoa gets drafted by the Dolphins, spelling the end for Rosen. Lmfao
What's weird is that Rosen is supposed to be very bright, so maybe it was confidence and not slow processing?
The guy who calls everyone a dope homie and complains about having to read?
Answer. Yes
Liked, subscribed, and I just told my dad about your channel. I like how you actually show video of yourself talking rather than editing the crap out of your videos. Makes it feel more real. Keep up the strong work 👍🏻
I've been down with you since before 200 subs. You're absolutely amazing man
I subbed... but you see the way my Facebook account is setup, by which I mean it's deleted, I can't share there. I can do the twitter thing doe. Good luck
Hard to progress through reads on your back.
The great ones do it daily
What about the 6.5 second in the pocket post play
Cardinals fans are NOT bailing on Rosen. The media is stirring that up.
Great analysis. Nice to hear from someone who has played and understands the game and the position.
Great review. I don't know how I got here but glad I did! You earned my subscription with your detailed review.
Thanks for the great breakdown. As a die hard giants fan I've been forced to think a lot about Rosen the past week. I have a few thoughts after your analysis: one, I don't understand how so many giants fans think Eli needs to go and that a Rosen arrival would signal the salvation of our franchise. Eli is completely immobile, that's a big problem, but that's kind of where his problems end. All the myriad mistakes you described Rosen making, Eli makes none of them. In fact, Rosen's weaknesses are Eli's greatest strengths: he has an extremely high football IQ, checks in and out plays seamlessly and accurately, goes through his progressions quickly and delivers the ball on time, he knows his defenses in and out and assigns his protections with ease. I fail to see how swapping Eli for Rosen would result in a huge uptick in the win column. Two, what the hell? Last year we were told Darnold, Baker, and Allen were more of the brash gunslinger types, but Rosen was a high intellect prospect with a beautiful throw. After this analysis it appears his Achilles heel thus far is his football IQ and processing speed, his supposed strengths... that's not good.
He seems to have paralysis by analysis. He's overthinking instead of reacting.
Eli has a myriad of problems
It would be nice if the Giants took Rosen off their hands and used the 6th pick on OL/DL
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Uh bruh... no cardinals fans are bailing on Josh Rosen. We want to keep him and draft Bosa (or trade down if a good enough offer presents itself). The media on the other hand wants us to trade Rosen and draft Kyler Murray.
ThealltimeX welp...
Cardinals will never give up on rosen
It is so refreshing to hear somebody tell you how dedicated they are to the content they make AFTER presenting it to you and showing you the quality of the content. So much pandering is in the beginning of a video now, but people just clicked and if all you showed is pandering what are they supporting? They haven't even had a chance to find out. This guy is going places great marketing for a big big need in the industry of sports. In depth young QB season review with unbiased fact based information. I just subbed and hit the bell won't be missing one video.
Been looking for a channel like this, alot of guys just watch 1or 2 games and judge but you are dedicated. keep up the good work!
I like the video but your wrong on the broncos red zone play no qb could have ran that because Brandon Marshall was a spy
You look like Peter Schrager
You have been chosen. The time of reckoning is now. Make the proper Arrangements. PREPARE.
I was going to say, this is like a bizarre alternate reality where Peter Schrager makes a bunch of good points and like backs them up and stuff
@@SLaird22 SILENCE !!!!!
Lmao
@@hippie2152 SILENCE
Wow, I really enjoy your film breakdowns. You really look at everything and talk with knowledge. Definitely subscribing. I’d love for you to do one of these on Darnold though
Hey man the video was great! You’re gonna go big someday and the first fans will still be here!!
Verdict: He sucks.
May I ask what college u attend lol I’m an aspiring Sports Analysis as well & I really appreciate the grind and the drive!! That’s the reason I started my TH-cam channel!! To practice my sports analysis skills so I can b like Stephen A Smith, Colin Cowherd etc! So keep up the good work man I’m definitely going to tell people about your channel!!
The Juice Alert !!! I go to Pacific Lutheran University in Tacoma Washington and play football there!
Strong Opinion Sports that’s great man keep up the good work!!!
Great analysis but did you speak to a front office executive? Have a divorce? Realize Thicc and Trunky are enviable features? Yeah that’s what I thought...
xD
What a fantastic breakdown. I've never seen a video of yours but I'm certainly going to subscribe and binge
Great analysis! My first time hearing your podcast, I think its great! Sharing with my friends for sure. GOOD LUCK!