Beethoven: Missa solemnis ∙ hr-Sinfonieorchester ∙ Wiener Singverein ∙ Andrés Orozco-Estrada
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- Ludwig van Beethoven:
Missa solemnis ∙
I. Kyrie - Assai sostenuto. Mit Andacht 0:0:00 ∙
II. Gloria - Allegro vivace 0:10:08 ∙
III. Credo - Allegro ma non troppo 0:28:36 ∙
IV. Sanctus - Adagio. Mit Andacht 0:47:46 ∙
V. Agnus Dei - Adagio 1:04:25 ∙
hr-Sinfonieorchester - Frankfurt Radio Symphony ∙
Regine Hangler, Sopran ∙
Katrin Wundsam, Alt ∙
Steve Davislim, Tenor ∙
Hanno Müller-Brachmann, Bass ∙
Wiener Singverein ∙
Einstudierung: Johannes Prinz ∙
Andrés Orozco-Estrada, Dirigent ∙
Rheingau Musik Festival 2016 ∙
Kloster Eberbach, 1. Juli 2016 ∙
Website: www.hr-sinfonieorchester.de
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I loved how the violin soloist didn’t make that solo about himself. It was so pure and beautiful
There are many fine performances of the Missa Solemnis on TH-cam with fine soloists, but I think what sets this one apart (over 600K views) is its passion. The singers, especially the soloists, sing with a fervor no doubt influenced by their conductor, Andrés Orozco-Estrada, whose own fervor comes across in his exuberant physicality. He has also done a notable job of balancing the soloists so the soprano doesn't eclipse the others, as often happens. In every way a great performance, including the sound quality and the video.
Even Ninth symphony can't compare to this magnificent Missa Solemnis, Beethoven himself considered this his greatest work ever done!
There are also definite hints of the Ninth in it.... So touchingly beuatiful.
@@JBNemeth The Ninth Symphony and the Missa Solemnis were composed at the same time. I think the Missa does what the final movement of the Ninth attempts but does not really achieve.
"The biggest work I have written up until now, a great mass with chorus, four soloists, and large orchestra" - Beethoven in 1822
I used to sing this with the royal musical society in cristchurch
He only said that because he hadn't written the ninth, yet. Still, this is, imo, the greatest mass ever written.
Totally agree
@@leonhardeuler6811 Having performed both the Ninth and the Missa Solemnis, this is much harder. The Missa Solemnis is like singing the Choral movement of the Ninth three times in a row without a break.
@@dmk941 I meant musical greatness, I have no authority on performance difficulty (to be honest, I have no authority on its musicality either lmao).
You must be very good to have performed this mass. The funny thing is, the most difficult parts (by my faulty estimation) are my favorite: the second half of the Credo fugue "et v.." and the second half of the Gloria fugue "pa tris"
The soloists, choir, orchestra and conductor are all in balance with one another.
Qué orgullo para Colombia y toda Latinoamérica que un hispanoamericano como Andrés Orozco Estrada haya tenido el privilegio honroso de dirigir una de las obras cumbres de la música coral sinfónica de todos los tiempos. BRAVO!!!
in these times rive with stupidity and shallowness how I love the seriousness and the commitment, the complexity and the skill
yes these are surely times of stupidity, shallowness - AND lovelessness dear Arno Ackermann - but this will change! Carried on the wings of the idealism of such music as Beethoven´s mankind must now go through the purification of intense suffering that will make it wake up!
@@larsthorsmith8369 I appreciate the sentiment and loving Beethoven does mean to believe in the purification of humanity through transcendent joy: "Joy, thou beauteous godly lightning, Daughter of Elysium,
Thy enchantments bind together, What did custom stern divide, Every man becomes a brother, Where thy gentle wings abide..'
In over 70 years of cultivating the music of Beethoven this is the first time I pay attention to this Missa Solemnis. It inspires no religiosity in me and it does not need to, just joy and emotions in the musical center of my brain. So far, the top composition in all occidental music in the last 400 years is for me the Ninth Symphony, which I have heard hundreds of times. I will have to listen to this Missa many times and see how my familiarity with it may bring it close to the absolute bliss I find in the whole four movements of the Ninth Symphony. And in addition to giving thanks to the composer for this work of art, I also give thanks to a modern technology that allows me to enjoy this music as much as it can be from the comfort of my home.
It took me some time to fall in love with this piece but wow. Maybe start with the Gloria
Horozco-Estrada, magnificent young director.
Written Orozco-Estrada, without the H...
True!
One of the most beautiful pieces of music created by a master who overcame numerous disappointments in life including deafness. Instead of labelling his life as a failure he created many masterpieces ;too long of a list to mention( 9th being the most adorable piece in my humble opinion..Few years ago I flew a 9 hour plus overnight flight to Amsterdam from seattle drove over 1000km alone to Vienna arriving at 9 am to see Bethovens ninth being conducted by Maestro Dudamel at the musikverein...!!!
It was worth it. I had one hour to change in my rental car and have breakfast at the cafe..!!! in my broken german let us say Alles wunderbahr....!!
Oh my gosh what a dream come true!!! Bucket list; 1 go to Germany. 2 see the 9th. 3. Be there for a performance by Dudamel. And you did all 3 at once!!!! Must have been glorious!! Can you Tell me about it?
Vienna is in Austria
You are nuts.
@@joguess87 they speak German in Austria.
I love him so much ❤😂
missa always brings tears to my eyes, something so divine is being expressed
Una obra monumental del gran sordo de la historia de la música sinfónica coral que tuvo los mejores oídos para crear música inmortal! La consideró una de sus obras cumbres!
We are so blessed to have Beethoven’s music with us today. What an absolute masterpiece this is.
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I listen to some Beethoven almost every night. It gives me a taste of heaven here on earth
Vielen DANK für diese erstklassige Performance. Die Missa Solemnis und die 9. Sinfonie von Beethoven sind für mich das Überwältigendste, was je in Musik gegossen wurde.
so many sublime moments when one feels that God came down to help Beethoven write this magnificent piece. VERY difficult to sing also--i sang it years ago with the SB Master Chorale. A fav part is the sublime Agnus Dei, with the solo violin part.
i meant the Sanctus!
@@lindametelka5172Just curious. Have you ever listened to beethoven’s violin concerto? The violin solo you are referring to reminds me of that violin concerto. It’s a feeling that is hard to put into words, like wistful beauty.
Louis de Bétovin, très grand compositeur de notre chère Alsace germanique !
What a Composer!! I allways cry when I hear Beethoven's Missa solemnis
Tarek Said Yes I agree very moving indeed 💞
I thought I was the only one (not really)
I just love it. I close my eyes and it becomes a meditation without me even trying 😃. The intertwining of voices with each other and with the musicians is beautiful and mind boggling
The overall greatest piece of music ever written by humans. Only the genius of Beethoven could forge such grandiose magnificence. I tremble in awe.
I don't know if any one work of art in any medium can be called the greatest. But certainly this is one of the Himalayan high peaks of music.
@@telephilia yes sir, agreed. In this case "greatest" is a purely subjective term. I should perhaps have been more clear. It is the greatest, IMHO. However, I think, based on its structure, the math, and the composer (and his condition) it is arguably "the greatest" in a more objective sense. While I immensely enjoy modern music (rock, rap, metal, thrash, electronic genres), they cannot hold a candle to Beethoven's Magnum Opus.
It's undoubtedly one of the greatest works, but what about Matthaus Passion and Mass h moll, both by Bach ?
@@telephilia Can one say that God is a work of art, being the principal creator and creation, and therefore that He is the greatest work of His own art? I think I'd say that.
@@willalston9627 In monotheism, God is the ONLY creator, so being the "greatest" does not make sense. Also he was not "created", he is not "a work of His own art". And, more importantly, this sublime music is REAL, which cannot be proved of God.
Probably the most heartbreaking passage of music I ever heard was at the end of the AGNUS DEI where there are pleas for peace amidst the warlike sound of trumpets and tympani rolls that suggest the distant sound of cannons and the final phrase suggesting a prayer that goes unanswered. "They will pray for peace, but peace will never come."
Beethoven was stone deaf when he wrote this sublime music. How blessed are we who can hear that which he never could (other than in his own mind).
Sublime
. . . 'it is not the ear that hears ,but the mind.'..Plotinus
He heard it better than we ever could, but if we care, we can kinda get the gist.
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Margaretha Fischer
No dislikes? Whoa! It's a miracle as is the beauty of this performance.
TH-cam no longer shows dislikes. They had to disable it because too many people were expressing honest views about certain policital figures. And propraganda videos were getting downvoted.
@@galahadthreepwood Thank you for this precise explanation. I realized soon after the dislikes had been disabled but thought it was still a funny comment Now I learned something as a result. Thanks again.
Beautiful interpretation on a real masterpiece of Western sacred music, equal to J.S. Bach’s Mass in B minor as well as W.A. Mozart’s ’Great’ Mass in C minor, without a doubt one of the greatest musical achievements ever created!
That's culture for you! Cultus is the Latin for worship/veneration which profoundly and fundamentally influences culture. So even Protestant Beethoven was inspired to compose using the most sacred prayers of the Roman Catholic Tridentine Latin Mass, the ultimate worship service offered to the one, triune God!
From 00:56 to 01:55 some of the best classical music ever composed. Beethoven will forever be great
If that's the portion you like I strongly recommend you check out Mozart, there's more where that came from
Does anyone else agree that the section beginning at 33:00 is possibly the most beautiful music they’ve ever heard? I don’t know if I’ve ever heard anything more beautiful.
Definitely an astounding moment : "Incarnatus est"and what follows up to the 'et resurrectus est" is extraordinarily moving,
Yes I was literally just thinking that. So beautiful
The Greatest Mass of Humanity
Magnifique en particulier le violon solo du sanctus passage à émouvoir aux larmes. Merci pour ce moment
Beethoven non invecchia mai ci rende determinati come non mai grazie.
As someone wrote many years ago: 'The violin hovers above the Sanctus like the Spirit of God above the waters.'
I’m here because of the book ‘Beethoven - A Life in Nine Pieces’ by Laura Tunbridge. It has given me a new appreciation of this epic work and of the trials and triumphs of the master’s life. So glad I chose this performance as I thought everything about it was superb.
The Adagio...I'm speechless!
Magnificent Soloists, specially the Tenor, the Bass, ops, the Contralto and Soprano too, I can´t choose, superb! Ok, I cried as Chorus singing "Gloria" became. Every words aren´t enough.
I have listened to various orchestras, some really famous and big names as conductors. This is by far the best performance, done with feeling and emotion. The soloists have amazing voices and everyone has give more than probably asked of them. Bravo, God must smile when He hears this version. Just adore it and listen to it at least once a day. Thank you for bringing me absolute JOY.
0:03 - Kyrie
10:08 - Gloria
28:36 - Credo
47:46 - Sanctus
1:04:25 - Agnus Dei
01.04.25 agnus dei
Thank you!
wow I
Thank you!
Thank you
I had the privilege of singing this (alto) as a part of a youth ensemble alongside the Seattle Symphony and Symphony Chorale. Such an experience!
It certainly is a gift to be able to sing these magnificent works of spiritual upliftment. I never had the opportunity to sing this work but some others... Brahms, Faure`, Mozart, Bach. I totally understand your memory....
Wow my respect.
Stupendous music. I hadn't heard this Missa Solemnis before now, and I'm glad I have heard it now. I very rarely listen to Beethoven , as although I love the music of at least 300 classical composers , I tend to dislike Beethoven's music, and it's a sort of illness of mine. But, I am fighting to get over this strange aversion, and this Missa Solemnis is probably the best cure. It really is fabulous, and I'll try and listen to it again.
I was just reading that apparently it's one of his most atypical major works as it doesn't develop any themes, it's just one continuous unfolding, so you might be right that its the best way to start. Other ways in might be 'the late quartets' and the piano sonatas as they are not 'thunderous theme hammers' unlike some of the symphonies, which I think you can enjoy only very occasionally after a while!
"Missa Solemnis, I just do not know higher masterpiece in whole Music". Lorin Maazel
One of the most extraordinary pieces produced by the human mind. Thank you for sharing
Magnificently beautiful. This great music is miraculous. Indeed, considering it was written by a deaf man, it a miracle in every sense. Hail Beethoven! His music will live until the Universe ceases to be. How truly great he was and still is and will always be.
This was Beethoven's Op. 123. I think his choral writing in the Missa Solemnis was a factor in his decision to add vocalists to Op. 125, the Ninth Symphony.
For me, the Missa Solemnis is Beethoven's Magnum Opus. And this may well its finest performance!
Merci mille fois! Thanks to all! 🙏🏼
I am deeply moved by your respect for this piece , which always strikes Awe in me 🙏 ... send me your email address and I will send you my Christmas 🎄 Card which celebrated his 250th birthday on Thursday (12/17/1770). bachgolf@gmail.com. With All Due respect 🎻🎶🎹
Glorioso!
Grandissimo sublime celestiale magnifico capolavoro monumentale sinfonico musicale, grandissimo bravissimo geniale intelligente compositore Ludwig Van Beethoven.
Excellent! Thank you...
thank God, I thank Germany for such an outstanding composer as L. V. Beethoven!
For me one of the greatest composers besides G. F. Handel also from Germany.
peter exner So well said ..you are so lucky to have such a golden
treasurable heritage left to you from
Beethoven. 🎼
Beethoven an awesome man 💞 who suffered so much yet dedicated himself to the task in hand ,
in his heart and soul the sacrifice to produce such transcendental monumental majestic works
like this one 💞
Bach my nigga
And the greatest J.s Bach
@@user-uw8dy5lz7p Bach is a god, but Beethoven is superior than god.
And let's not forget Brahms. The German Requiem is another magnificent German work
My question is: what are those creatures who disliked this masterpiece?!
No todos deben ser amantes del cielo, o de la divinidad o de la música elevada.
I think, people often just miss the thumbs up button. Especially if they watch it on a small device.
Happened to me, so I wouldn’t take it too serious.
I don't like Beethoven but I am a decent person..why give a dislike when I have the choice? So I don't know..
@@susannabonke8552 I'm so sorry for you 😭
Только 300 комментарий для такой величественной музыки.
Благодарю Бетховена и Франкфуртский оркестр за концерт!
How is it possible for anybody to reconcile what in their own minds is achievable by a human being with the overwhelming magnificence and beauty of this masterpiece from Beethoven. Beyond words.
Grandiosi non ho mai ascoltato una esecuzione a questi livelli.
Magnificent performance Transporting the listner to heights unexpected Thank you wonderful singers, players, conductor and Beethoven whose music is of such Heavenly content.Praise and glory to the One True God.
As a 100% Atheist, I must admit I love this. Thank you Beethoven. It's an honour to be able to share this beauty.
Me too💕
I am Jewish and I must admit i love this.and you are not atheist just talking.
@@haimlevy654 What do you mean wiht that?
@@simsekyuksek6096 it was not meant for you sir.
MultiCappie. I'm not an atheist but severely tested on my faith almost disintegrated so
..I can see how one can become Atheist as some talked of Beethoven
as an Atheist too much suffering can turn one that way ,i dont think
he attended Church in the strict way but Beethoven Catholic by Birth
, but certainly his inner souls knowing and expression talks to one from the heart
of some divine majestic being of creation
But yes In agreement .with you with reference to this musical
masterpiece a totally sublime works indeed 🌟
Thank you for your great sacrifice born out of much earthy
suffering yet you rose above it dear Beethoven💞
and again I give grateful thanks to you 💞
A remarkable Masterpiece! What made it even more remarkable was that in 1818 were the first signs of deafness and worsened by the time Missa Solemnis was completed in 1823 by which time he was totally deaf! To pay tribute to the greatness of Beethoven, this Orchestra, Choir and Conductor have done just that!
The first signs of deafness in Beethoven occurred long before 1818.
Your right. The deafness began in 1798 when Beethoven was 28 years old. 3 years later in 1801 he lost 60 percent of hearing.
Thanks for correcting me.
Sublime...!!! 🙏 💓 🙏
Gran compositor, gran Coro, gran orquesta, gran director, gracias por compartir esta maravillosa obra de arte!!!!! Es sublime llega al alma,‼ saludos desde Chile🎶🎼💚🇨🇱
This is a giant masterwork, no question. How much is it a religious work or a gigantic choral symphony is for the experts to resolve.The Benedictus seems to me to recover the old JS Bach religious atmosphere; the solo violin playing up there against the choir and the soloists seems taken from some of the liturgical cantatas, the celestial atmosphere, the humility of humans confronted with the divine, the majestic benediction from the Holy Ghost onto the human herd, it is nothing less than a work of art of the highest magnitude. Thanks for this wonderful music and splendid video.
Someone in the classical music recording biz once told me Leonard Bernstein said this was the greatest piece of music ever written. I wish Bernstein had left some kind of analysis of the mass that explains that opinion (if this is true).
Jorge Urzua Urzua , my God Jorge. How I’d enjoy a beer with you. Forget the experts. Who is more feeling and eloquent than you, man.
Nothing in Beethoven's missa solemnis has any thing to do with Bach.... where Bach is a predetermined Christian while Beethoven a Free spiritual Genius who has created and expressed his own spirituality using his music regardless the traditional text he used to achieve that
Prof. jason-
, absolute clarity professor? That first part-if taken literally-is preposterous. Just because the church controlled western music pre baroque and throughout the baroque period doesn’t mean it’s composers didn’t influence music of the romantic period. It’s everywhere. Rather the nature of music: all music is influenced by music. I hear what Jorge is hearing. Consider the Allegro energico e passionato from Brahms 4. A symphonic passacaglia.
Professor Jason, thanks for your comment. It is true that Beethoven was not a devoted religious man, agree 100%. However, that was precisely the gist of my comment, that asked if the Missa Solemnis was in fact a religious work rather than a giant choral symphony. We do know that Beethoven while composing the Mass studied Bach religious compositions. Beethoven fugues are clearly inherited from Bach. Nothing to be ashamed about; music is a long story fo heritage and progress growing on the shoulders of older musicians.
I love watching the way that the principal flute not only plays but feels the music throughout.
That's Clara Andrada de la Calle. Wonderful!
Your right. The flautist is absolutely brilliant! Maybe your interested her name is Clara Andrada de la Calle. Check her out doing a flute concerto of Sibelius with the same orchestra. You would like it.
You could check Clara Andrada out performing Nielsen flute concerto
I had inadvertently said Sibelius concerto. It should be Nielsen concerto
@@anandsamuel1978 NK hh
Sublime soloists... just delightful!
It seems most appropriate for Lent.
So beautiful and so passionately performed ! 2016 was an important year for many Folks , including me. While as an oldster I prefer the attitudes and tempi of mid-20th century, I am convinced that Beethoven and other Greats yet RING TRUE.
Vivian Crawford- Jamaica: To the glory of God and the benefit of mortals. Thank you.
When Beethoven was composing this glorious work, a friend who was a painter (Joseph Carl Stieler) wanted to show him holding the score of his Missa Solemnis. He asked Beethoven, by writing down the question , so we have that record, which page he wanted it to be open at. Beethoven's emphatic answer is there for all the world to see: 'Credo!'
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_van_Beethoven
The word is partially hidden, but there it is in the corner.... upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Beethoven.jpg
The great Beethoven sings to God...
This is the 250 anniversary of the birth of Beethoven. Listen to this and find something that transcends human time.
I like to enjoying so much
Harry Haff ..Well said thank you for sharing your insights so appreciated 🌟
This works of Beethoven truly transcendental. like the transfiguration 💞
Beethoven's Magnum Opus, in my opinion. And that is saying a lot, given the quantity of great music he produced.
Sublime!!!, Grandioso!!! ...'it is not the ear that hears, but the mind'...Ploetinus- Credo Amen,et vitam venturi saeculi, Amen¡¡¡
magnifique interprétation bravo les choeurs
I really that piece of Beethoven, that was the first song in Beethoven's movie Immortal Beloved, very beautiful
Dieu bénisse BEETHOVEN compositeur de génie
Beethoven wrote with such intensity but had no compassion for the range of singers, but nevertheless, the power of his music always comes out!
The chorus in St Petersburg was a magnificent one, with a grounding in Italian bel-canto. That explains the challenging choral writing -- it was not composed with an "average" chorus in mind.
Caroline Unger said he was a tyrant of voices.
“No compassion for the range of singers,” is an interesting comment for someone to make about anything to do with Beethoven, As an amateur violinist, I can tell you the same can be said about him with regard to his works for violin. But then, those of us who love and have come to know Beethoven’s opus know of his ferocity, even in quiet episodes in his various works, There is passion, a tautness, of barely contained energy that we know is going to erupt sooner or later. Beethoven composed not to coddle his musicians but to evoke from and with them that which is sublime, at the limits of the soloists, the choruses, the orchestras, the ensembles that dare to try to bring his compositions to life
well said!!!@@Geoplanetjane
That’s old Beethoven for you -asking for fortissimos at breakneck speed at the very top of your vocal range -no slouchers please.
Fantastic music and amazing interpretation.Thanks Beethoven for this moment!!!
The Maestro conducts a great performance.
About as meticulous as one could hope for in a live performance of this piece. The Singverein, to my humble ears, sounds greatly improved over recordings under Karajan a few decades ago. Great depth and tenor section never sounds too strained.
The composition seems to say everthing there is to say (although that can't be right, it often seems to me that way when I am in a receptive mood).
Realmente divino. Beethoven é incomparável.
Sobrenatural!
Leggyönyörűbb műve,nagyon sokáig dolgozott rajta☀️😍🌹
Admirable interpretación. El "Dona nobis pacem" sobrecoge.
GOD ABOV ALL!!!! DEVOTION!!
On est emu devant un tel chef d’œuvre.
Muy buena música, muchas. Dios los bendiga.
Wonderful acoustics and video direction. Music also taken at exciting tempi.
The magnificent ❤
"Sanctus" is my favorite...
Juste wouah...
So beautiful! Thank you Andres
Only comparable sacred works I know are Bach's Bminor mass, Mozart's C minor Mass, and Monteverdi's Vespers.
What about Brahms Requiem
@@peralta99340 Another great one
The Gloria is just magnanimous!
Beethoven e suas divinas obras e inspirações......
Wundervoll💖💖💖🙏🙏🙏
Love Beethoven
Very inspiring music...thanks for sharing.
Interpretazione semplicemente FAVOLOSA!!!!!
Everybody gangsta until choir start making fugue
Yup
Wondermooi! Dank u Beethoven! U was een genie! ♥️
Immensely beautiful but so intricate and at times outlandish that it isn't for everyone. In today's world of tweets and compromised attention span, few are the lucky ones who experience the exquisite pleasure of listening to all of it. Truly speaking, it's my favorite Beethoven work, his choral and orchestral cenith, superior to the 9th symphony.
Yes, it is superior to the wordly, anti-Christian IX., though a magnificient musical work in itself.
Carlos Bas .. I agree
. Transcendental awesome works of Beethovens 💞
@@fansofst.maximustheconfess8226 Yes in agreement🌟
Majestic musical works 🌟
Beethoven at his best 💞
@@fansofst.maximustheconfess8226 how is the 9th anti Christian 🤔
@@user-uw8dy5lz7p Because it doesn't mention jesus 900 times.
It calls for universal brotherhood but apparently what Christians want is state sponsored religion. God bless america.
Sublime!!!
Glorious; "vielen dank" for sharing!
LOVE the violin solo too; what a surprise treat (first time listening)!
-- Véritable chef-d’œuvre merveilleusement interprété. --
unbelievable
Divino!
Thanks
Hora y media de pura maravilla.
Beethoven seems to struggle with sad music , even when he writes a solemn mass it ends up being gloriously triumphant.
Many Masses are joyful in tone (the only really tense texts are the Kyrie, a little of the Credo, and maybe the Agnus Dei), but I agree about Beethoven's incredible intensity!
Incredible acoustics!!
53:38 min. Violin solo excerpt.
Everybody gangster until you hear this in the sky on Jan 1st 2021
Yea, I can't help it. I have like 1000 years in me. I've been married a million times and have struggled forever