On the machines with 1 dollar min. I start with 25 lay on the 4 and 10 with 3 hard way on the 4 and 10. Now I have one combination where I lose. I put $2 on the 5, 6 and 8 and 1 on the field. Field hit press 5,6 or 8. Number hit collect. It's slow but it's consistent for me.
Love you videos This works if you're playing the hard ways because you wouldn't want to bet against Yourself by bidding on a hard way while you do a lay bet for the four
I was just about to post a comment: "Why not just lay the 4?" Then I saw Rick Bernst's comment and the replys...I like: place the 6 & 8 and lay the 4...I'll see how it works out later this week...
Most people can't make big bets like this! You may win here and there. But not on playing 10 sessions on a Fremont street. What is your win/lost per cent using this system. Also, overtime the house advantage takes over on each bet. I love craps and play on line for min bet of 1.OO. And I live in Michigan! Good Luck!
I like to lay the 10 or the 4 when I’m implementing a DP strategy. I usually put $100 on DP and $200 laying the 10. Then If I want to hedge I can put a little on the hard ten and a little on the yo 11. That way I remove a couple combos of loosing numbers.
Laying the five and nine never a good idea. Check out any long roll. You'll find that somehow a five or nine will roll more than the six or eight. Why? Because by definition, they are ODD numbers....
This is crazy! Why would you NOT collect on your first 3 place bet hits!? 😆 You're protecting yourself against Ruby (7), but you're using two COMMONLY ROLLED NUMBERS to do it! WHY!?? 😅 Collect first, THEN let your lady bets protect you. If anything, run your lay bets on the Come out, then use your 4th or 5th win on your place bets to go back up on the lay bets after you collect and press your place bets. You're STILL looking for a long roll before Ruby shows so you can build your lay bets. Why not collect some money first? Then increase your lay every OTHER roll. As it was submitted, this strategy is an 🍆.....almost a Durian. It needs some adjustment. 👎🏾👎🏾
Jeremy, enjoy your videos. I think this one can become very effective with just a couple small adjustments. Maybe the person who submitted this will see my note as well and respond. 1. Rather than laying two numbers, why not just lay only the 4 or only the 10 making them the enemy instead of the 7. 4/10 each have 3 ways to be made, 7 has 6 ways to be made, better odds of not hitting while you make some points. 2. Then after you have made say 4-5 hits on the box numbers, why not take them down and shoot for a 7 out. This way when you finally hit the 7 you get the full value of the lay bet since the box bets are gone. Been trying this, seems to work even if a 4 or 10 are hit and the lay bet is lost. The loss is easily made up. Love to hear your thoughts. Keep up the good work.
Jeremy laying against 2 numbers is a horrible bet for two reasons. First, the 5 & 9 can be made in 8 ways combined (4 ways ea), 8 ways to lose the lay bet while the 7 can only be made in 6 ways. The 4 or 10 can only be made in 3 ways each. See the benefit? Second, when you lay against two numbers you can only make a score hit with 4 numbers, taking away an extra target. By laying only the 4 or 10 you have 5 score hit numbers available. That's a big difference. Hope I didn't confuse you with this.
well the only similarity is they win on a roll of 7. Lay bets you can choose the number, but have a 5% vig, Don't come the dice determine which number you bet on, but there is no vig.
@@ColorUp WOW! REALLY!!? 😱 Thanks for your hard work brother!! I think we all take editing time for granted! I used to do video editing, so I can REALLY appreciate the time and effort you out into your work! ✊🏾💪🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@@ColorUp Wow, that is insane. Thank you for all the hard work you put into these videos. Maybe one day you could do a behind the scenes video? We all have no idea how much effort goes into a 30 minute video. I seriously don't know how you do it.
Shouldn't raise up 1 a bunch like 15 on the 9, if you win both plays win but if you land on 5 or 9 you would lose. You should evenly raise both 5 and 9 so if you land one 1 you only lose half. (Otherwords don't raise 9 by three raise both 5 and 9 by 1 and 2 or 2 and 1)
So I have never dealt nor played Crapless craps and I have a feeling the answer is “no” but can you lay on Crapless Craps? I would imagine you can’t since there isn’t a don’t pass but if you could, I’m sure the odds on the 2,3,11,12 are absolutely terrible
Why not martingale each time you lose on the 5 & 9? I also agree with some of the comments below, that they should play the 4 & 10 instead to increase their odds.
Hey Jeremy. Just curious if you have done a strategy where the player plays the iron cross with a lay on the 4 & 10. Just seems to me if you’re gonna use the lay bets use the 2 with the LEAST probability of hitting. So the basic layout for me would be $25-5, $30-6/8, $15 field then lay the 4 and 10 for $100 ea. If you run into a point-7 the lays would cover your iron cross.. After a couple hits you can always pull back the lays, since you’ve gotten some of the money you’re risking with the iron cross.
Oops, I try not to do that. I was shocked it won some in the end.ha I really do try and present and let viewer decide. Thanks for pointing out, good reminder I can improve.
Not really. You have to think about the Lay bets as seperate games, due to them "Losing" seperately. If any 1 of those numbers rolls, you wont lose the other. If that makes makes sense.
I just got my butt kicked this trip to vegas. Standing there wondering why I don’t just play the pass line with odds and let the other bets go (other than boring) isn’t that really the best system?
Yes. Boring is what gets most players in the end. Your best bet is pass and odds or slightly better, the dont pass with odds. Place bet on 6/8 is not far behind. Beyond that… we would all probably be better off not playing anything else.
Cool way to look at it and if he has a lot of avoiding I-5. Maybe he has a role that's good at avoiding the 5 and 9. I rather don't 4 don't 10 and press the 6 and 8
@15:30. “5. 5 easy” haha. You crack me up Jeremy. I’m sure it just slipped out lol
That call is something wrong use from time to time haha
@@ColorUp Haha I get it. Throw in some spice
On the machines with 1 dollar min. I start with 25 lay on the 4 and 10 with 3 hard way on the 4 and 10. Now I have one combination where I lose. I put $2 on the 5, 6 and 8 and 1 on the field. Field hit press 5,6 or 8. Number hit collect. It's slow but it's consistent for me.
5:29 why not Buy the 4 and get that extra Dollar? I assume your Casino pays the Vig On Win 🤔 😉 😜.
So far every game that has a name has worked for me.
Going to Biloxi this weekend, would be thrilled to find $10 tables!!
The Palace has a $10 electronic table. You actually throw the dice, but use a computer screen to make your bets.
My customer had pressed his 9 Lay up to 400. That pay off was 269. Slim pickin for the amount, but pressed from the 6-8 place bets is magical..
Love you videos
This works if you're playing the hard ways because you wouldn't want to bet against Yourself by bidding on a hard way while you do a lay bet for the four
Hard ways have a high House advantage. They are really sucker bets
I was just about to post a comment: "Why not just lay the 4?" Then I saw Rick Bernst's comment and the replys...I like: place the 6 & 8 and lay the 4...I'll see how it works out later this week...
The best part of the video is at approx 10:51. That's where you get serious and turn your hat backwards for some masterful dealing!
Ha
Most people can't make big bets like this! You may win here and there. But not on playing 10 sessions on a Fremont street. What is your win/lost per cent using this system. Also, overtime the house advantage takes over on each bet. I love craps and play on line for min bet of 1.OO. And I live in Michigan! Good Luck!
Playing the dark side, one has to sit back and watch all sorts of profits roll by.
That's why I'm a Jedi! 😁😎
Not really! That number 7 comes around a lot! That 7 # clears away all those big bets!!
I like to lay the 10 or the 4 when I’m implementing a DP strategy. I usually put $100 on DP and $200 laying the 10. Then If I want to hedge I can put a little on the hard ten and a little on the yo 11. That way I remove a couple combos of loosing numbers.
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This is a similar strategy called Uncle Angelo 108 strategy. Please review! Thanks
I'll have to check it out.
Laying the five and nine never a good idea. Check out any long roll. You'll find that somehow a five or nine will roll more than the six or eight. Why? Because by definition, they are ODD numbers....
I said "A unit inside out" ... this didn't work, but I feel like it should have lmao
Play one way or the other,
Enjoying this prep before my trip!! Wish me luck!! #colorup #vegasbaby
using lay bets to cover the 7 seems pretty interesting, I've been thinking of a way to protect myself from those 7 hits while a point is established.
Play the don't pass
This is crazy! Why would you NOT collect on your first 3 place bet hits!? 😆 You're protecting yourself against Ruby (7), but you're using two COMMONLY ROLLED NUMBERS to do it! WHY!?? 😅 Collect first, THEN let your lady bets protect you. If anything, run your lay bets on the Come out, then use your 4th or 5th win on your place bets to go back up on the lay bets after you collect and press your place bets. You're STILL looking for a long roll before Ruby shows so you can build your lay bets. Why not collect some money first? Then increase your lay every OTHER roll. As it was submitted, this strategy is an 🍆.....almost a Durian. It needs some adjustment. 👎🏾👎🏾
That’s so funny sometimes I’ll start with 6,8, and the field. Then go to 4,6,8,10, and I called it even Stephen too!! So funny.
Most of the time I win with laying the 4 with a hard 4. (e.g the 4 ($20) and hard 4 ($2).
Difficult to appreciate the methodology. I’d rather place the 5&9, and lay the 4&10. Laying the 5&9 doesn’t make mathematical sense.
Meh, just depends how the dice roll. I also would personally lay the 4/10
Jeremy, enjoy your videos. I think this one can become very effective with just a couple small adjustments. Maybe the person who submitted this will see my note as well and respond.
1. Rather than laying two numbers, why not just lay only the 4 or only the 10 making them the enemy instead of the 7. 4/10 each have 3 ways to be made, 7 has 6 ways to be made, better odds of not hitting while you make some points.
2. Then after you have made say 4-5 hits on the box numbers, why not take them down and shoot for a 7 out. This way when you finally hit the 7 you get the full value of the lay bet since the box bets are gone. Been trying this, seems to work even if a 4 or 10 are hit and the lay bet is lost. The loss is easily made up. Love to hear your thoughts. Keep up the good work.
Yeah, I agree, laying just one number
Jeremy laying against 2 numbers is a horrible bet for two reasons. First, the 5 & 9 can be made in 8 ways combined (4 ways ea), 8 ways to lose the lay bet while the 7 can only be made in 6 ways. The 4 or 10 can only be made in 3 ways each. See the benefit? Second, when you lay against two numbers you can only make a score hit with 4 numbers, taking away an extra target. By laying only the 4 or 10 you have 5 score hit numbers available. That's a big difference. Hope I didn't confuse you with this.
I understand the 🧮 math. I share all types of strategies, doesn’t mean I always think they are best idea.
LOL I'm with you.
$24 is break point, below this
My casino goes 40, 30, 30 for the min lay bets. Really high for the $10 table.
Yeah, probably should be 40, 30, 24, wonder why they do 6/8 with 30 also
At the risk of asking a newbie question: do lay bets and don't come bets sort of work the same way?
well the only similarity is they win on a roll of 7. Lay bets you can choose the number, but have a 5% vig, Don't come the dice determine which number you bet on, but there is no vig.
I really enjoy when you keep a running tally of the bankroll. I am only 10 mins into this video, but it seems as though this strategy is a bust.
I like the running tally too, but adds about 3 hrs to edit 😔
@@ColorUp WOW! REALLY!!? 😱 Thanks for your hard work brother!! I think we all take editing time for granted! I used to do video editing, so I can REALLY appreciate the time and effort you out into your work! ✊🏾💪🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@@ColorUp Wow, that is insane. Thank you for all the hard work you put into these videos. Maybe one day you could do a behind the scenes video? We all have no idea how much effort goes into a 30 minute video. I seriously don't know how you do it.
Shouldn't raise up 1 a bunch like 15 on the 9, if you win both plays win but if you land on 5 or 9 you would lose. You should evenly raise both 5 and 9 so if you land one 1 you only lose half. (Otherwords don't raise 9 by three raise both 5 and 9 by 1 and 2 or 2 and 1)
So I have never dealt nor played Crapless craps and I have a feeling the answer is “no” but can you lay on Crapless Craps? I would imagine you can’t since there isn’t a don’t pass but if you could, I’m sure the odds on the 2,3,11,12 are absolutely terrible
I have reports from different casinos, some do, most do not. 2/12 it would be tough for me to make a bet 1:6 plus vig.
Nail biter strategy. How bout laying the 4 & 10 instead?
Sure, seems like a better probability play with 4/10...he just hates the odd numbers ha
Probably has the issue I have with the five loves coming up
Why not martingale each time you lose on the 5 & 9? I also agree with some of the comments below, that they should play the 4 & 10 instead to increase their odds.
Hey Jeremy. Just curious if you have done a strategy where the player plays the iron cross with a lay on the 4 & 10. Just seems to me if you’re gonna use the lay bets use the 2 with the LEAST probability of hitting. So the basic layout for me would be $25-5, $30-6/8, $15 field then lay the 4 and 10 for $100 ea. If you run into a point-7 the lays would cover your iron cross.. After a couple hits you can always pull back the lays, since you’ve gotten some of the money you’re risking with the iron cross.
Only lay 5 or 9. Not both
Different strategy for sure.
your contempt/skepticism for this strategy leaked into most of the video lol
Oops, I try not to do that. I was shocked it won some in the end.ha I really do try and present and let viewer decide. Thanks for pointing out, good reminder I can improve.
@@ColorUp yeah man, no flame. i watch a lot of your vids. thanks for the content
Not a fan of laying 2 numbers. I play dark until someone makes some numbers, but I only lay one number. I like the iron cross and lay the 4 or 10 .
I agree. I don’t understand 2 number lay bet.
I don’t understand a 2 number lay. You don’t need 2 numbers against the seven. There’s no advantage but double the disadvantage.
Not really. You have to think about the Lay bets as seperate games, due to them "Losing" seperately. If any 1 of those numbers rolls, you wont lose the other. If that makes makes sense.
I just got my butt kicked this trip to vegas. Standing there wondering why I don’t just play the pass line with odds and let the other bets go (other than boring) isn’t that really the best system?
Yes. Boring is what gets most players in the end. Your best bet is pass and odds or slightly better, the dont pass with odds. Place bet on 6/8 is not far behind. Beyond that… we would all probably be better off not playing anything else.
Could you make a video laying the 4 and 10? Just curious of the results.
I’ve made a few
Those last 2 wins...
Wouldve had a bigger win if you were using your pennies as tip bets for the dealers to build up that good karma 🤣🤣🤣
Cool way to look at it and if he has a lot of avoiding I-5.
Maybe he has a role that's good at avoiding the 5 and 9.
I rather don't 4 don't 10 and press the 6 and 8
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Thank you