Excellent work, and I really like the line (to paragraph): “the negativity of other is gone and replaced by the positivity of the same.” A very succinct and insightful way to put it. There is no possibility of communal ontology without the other, so “the positivity of the same” bleeds into becoming “the self-enclosed hell of being all there is.” Where there is sameness, there can only be “one thing” (for everything must be the same), and thus the conditions of sameness are the conditions of autonomy and hell. I also liked the points on authenticity hiding our loss of “otherness,” which is further disguised by a notion of diversity which secretly favors Global Capitalism. I also agree that politics is impossible where there is no “other.” Really excellent video, Trey, well done!
Han needs to read Fr. Schmemann's The Eucharist. The eucharist, the sacrament of assembly, is THE "solution" to expulsion of the other. It is how the one and the many are unified symbolically (which is reality). Han is very illuminating but he inserts all these tensions that are dissolved when you take an orthodox perspective.
@@telosboundOne can take Han's insights and compare them to the one time in the Gospels where Jesus was angered at the money changers in the Temple, and He chased them out, just by speaking the Truth they felt it as violence, as the Truth took their power away and over turned their tables of profit. I took this moment in Gospels to mean that if we place Greed at the center of our being where we should be focused on God, we will commodify our neighbor to the point of dehumanizing them and eventually dehumanizing ourselves. The insatiable engine of Greed knows no constraints and will exploit all of nature and the living and every human (mark of the beast) until the point of exhaustion and collapse (annhilation=hell). Good work telosbound.
The word "mammon" as a personification of money and power-seeking was such a useful reification in the Gospels. Wish we as Christians used it more today, especially given passages like Luke 16:13 "No servant is able to serve two masters. For either he will hate the one and he will love the other, or he will be devoted to one and he will despise the other. You are not able to serve God and mammon."
Another excellent video. It's great to hear you cover theory applied to politics (ethnonationalism, neoliberalism) which if I'm correct your earlier work mostly avoided. On that subject, since you've covered both Han and Zizek who are both basically lacano-marxists, I'd be interested to see videos that really dive into Marxism and its philosophical history and contested relationship with Hegelianism. A lot of people have interpretated Marxism as a kind of secular Christianity, which I don't agree with and I imagine you don't either but that could also be an interesting subject.
It's indeed the pornification of society. Always promising valuable experiences without delivering them, all the while offering more of essentially the same but on the surface slightly different.
I understand the natural antagonism in the fact that we're separate people and the negativity in that and I also see the positive aspect of how that allows us to actually connect with others and not just be self-referential. What I get confused about with pop philosophers is who exactly they are speaking to... my assumption is that if someone is interested in philosophy they are not nearly consuming information , but are actively attempting to strive towards virtue and the actualization of their potentialities. As such, the way that they talk about anxiety or despair seems utterly unrelatable to me.
@@telosbound Thanks! Did I miss that at the start of the video? ;) On my way to buy it! This notion of eliminating the other through "diversity" seems key understanding neoliberal modernity.
Han often refers to ethno-nationalism when he addresses the need for identity in the void of meaning. Oddly, I've never heard him discuss the crises of identity in modern youth, which is far more prevalent and suggests a dire future for the West. Modern universities and politicians use the cudgel of identity to control the youth.
Is it ok if i challenge this here? I’m struggling the overlap this critique in 2023 American society. I’m inclined to believe that the internet and social media has amplified hyper individualization. Niche culture. I don’t see or feel the loss of the other. While i fully agree and enjoy the commentary on the commodification of the individual due to the structure of capitalism; I’m struggling to map this onto modern community or society.
This is pseudoreligious propaganda masquerading as intellectualization of and a blatant misinterpretation of byung chul han's writing. The vacuum of purposelessness is not a vacant throne waiting for a new deity. Purpose is for each of us to decide for ourselves, not to be dictated and enforced by the feaful and ignorant.
I’m not gonna lie… I’ve read many of Hans books but this video makes no sense to me. You need to include more citations for a video like this to make sense.
One can take Han's insights and compare them to the one time in the Gospels where Jesus was angered at the money changers in the Temple, and He chased them out, just by speaking the Truth they felt it as violence, as the Truth took their power away and over turned their tables of profit. I took this moment in Gospels to mean that if we place Greed at the center of our being where we should be focused on God, we will commodify our neighbor to the point of dehumanizing them and eventually dehumanizing ourselves. The insatiable engine of Greed knows no constraints and will exploit all of nature and the living and every human (mark of the beast) until the point of exhaustion and collapse (annhilation=hell). Good work telosbound.
The subjectivity of computing is completely wrong in your video. There is nothing more stilted and suffocatingly objective, as computer code. All content given to the computing user is gardened, manufactured and manipulated for an outcome, there is very little subjectivity in computing, almost none at all. It becomes extremely obvious once you try to make something genuinely new on a computer, and not rehashes of old ideas. The stifling limitations of programming, technology and computing, is a prison cell for the mind.
Elites dont want you to think thats dangerous, just do. Thats why they want to get rid of the humanities, no different than the mao cultural revolution. Just conform work and dont ask or challenge let alone think.
The marquee phrase of The Terror of the Same is "Good vibes only."
A Toast to the Significant Others
Brilliantly produced, Trey. Have listened numerous times and shared with “others “ on the Path.
Another great video that reinforces the hellish experience of self-enclosed circularity. Awesome work!
Only 12 thousand views and this video is much needed in todays world.
Excellent work, and I really like the line (to paragraph): “the negativity of other is gone and replaced by the positivity of the same.” A very succinct and insightful way to put it. There is no possibility of communal ontology without the other, so “the positivity of the same” bleeds into becoming “the self-enclosed hell of being all there is.” Where there is sameness, there can only be “one thing” (for everything must be the same), and thus the conditions of sameness are the conditions of autonomy and hell. I also liked the points on authenticity hiding our loss of “otherness,” which is further disguised by a notion of diversity which secretly favors Global Capitalism. I also agree that politics is impossible where there is no “other.” Really excellent video, Trey, well done!
Han needs to read Fr. Schmemann's The Eucharist. The eucharist, the sacrament of assembly, is THE "solution" to expulsion of the other. It is how the one and the many are unified symbolically (which is reality). Han is very illuminating but he inserts all these tensions that are dissolved when you take an orthodox perspective.
@@telosboundOne can take Han's insights and compare them to the one time in the Gospels where Jesus was angered at the money changers in the Temple, and He chased them out, just by speaking the Truth they felt it as violence, as the Truth took their power away and over turned their tables of profit.
I took this moment in Gospels to mean that if we place Greed at the center of our being where we should be focused on God, we will commodify our neighbor to the point of dehumanizing them and eventually dehumanizing ourselves. The insatiable engine of Greed knows no constraints and will exploit all of nature and the living and every human (mark of the beast) until the point of exhaustion and collapse (annhilation=hell).
Good work telosbound.
The word "mammon" as a personification of money and power-seeking was such a useful reification in the Gospels.
Wish we as Christians used it more today, especially given passages like Luke 16:13
"No servant is able to serve two masters. For either he will hate the one and he will love the other, or he will be devoted to one and he will despise the other. You are not able to serve God and mammon."
Great video once again. Love to get these explanations of Han’s thought.
Thank you for this.
This guy Trey is really gonna do something big on YT 😮😮😮
*is doing
What a delight encountering 👌👌👌 analysis in the wild and then finding out it's from a believer.
We’re so back
You are doing great work here!
thanks for overview. Gotta get them books. Very interesting.
Another excellent video. It's great to hear you cover theory applied to politics (ethnonationalism, neoliberalism) which if I'm correct your earlier work mostly avoided. On that subject, since you've covered both Han and Zizek who are both basically lacano-marxists, I'd be interested to see videos that really dive into Marxism and its philosophical history and contested relationship with Hegelianism. A lot of people have interpretated Marxism as a kind of secular Christianity, which I don't agree with and I imagine you don't either but that could also be an interesting subject.
Great work, thanks!!!
V. well done. Thank you.
Wow, I'm really glad I found your channel. Good stuff.
It's indeed the pornification of society. Always promising valuable experiences without delivering them, all the while offering more of essentially the same but on the surface slightly different.
Amazing insights
The break of the Hegalian dialectic, we no longer look to the master for recognition, we recognize ourselves!
Good stuff been wanting to get around to reading this guy
BACK SO BACK
Amazing, I'm speechless. Can't wait to get my hands on his books.
this feels like "totality and infinity" but specific for 2010s
A warning to listeners: I was nearly deafened by the intro music at 0:25!!!! Fix the levels and repost!
I understand the natural antagonism in the fact that we're separate people and the negativity in that and I also see the positive aspect of how that allows us to actually connect with others and not just be self-referential. What I get confused about with pop philosophers is who exactly they are speaking to... my assumption is that if someone is interested in philosophy they are not nearly consuming information , but are actively attempting to strive towards virtue and the actualization of their potentialities. As such, the way that they talk about anxiety or despair seems utterly unrelatable to me.
@@telosbound I feel like justifying common sense and striving for virtue ought to be the point.
@@telosbound I guess I'm not in online philosophy communities 😅 the only one is yours which I only check every few days
Important analysis. Can you provide references? Is this from No Things?
@@telosbound Thanks! Did I miss that at the start of the video? ;) On my way to buy it! This notion of eliminating the other through "diversity" seems key understanding neoliberal modernity.
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WE ARE SO BACK!!!!!! love the byung chul hand videos.
Han often refers to ethno-nationalism when he addresses the need for identity in the void of meaning. Oddly, I've never heard him discuss the crises of identity in modern youth, which is far more prevalent and suggests a dire future for the West. Modern universities and politicians use the cudgel of identity to control the youth.
Is he a western philosopher?
Real+back.
Is it ok if i challenge this here? I’m struggling the overlap this critique in 2023 American society. I’m inclined to believe that the internet and social media has amplified hyper individualization. Niche culture. I don’t see or feel the loss of the other. While i fully agree and enjoy the commentary on the commodification of the individual due to the structure of capitalism; I’m struggling to map this onto modern community or society.
Oh my good God , not every photograph selfie is emptiness selfishness or desire to compare as a toxic Narcissist.
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Celebrations actually increase production
Would u consider making a video on schizoanalysis?
turly a philosopher of our times is Han
Doesn't Nietzsche says self overcoming is good ?
Appropriately, I find this information to contain no wisdom.
How will this effect my search for a fitting spouse? half joking half serious
This is pseudoreligious propaganda masquerading as intellectualization of and a blatant misinterpretation of byung chul han's writing. The vacuum of purposelessness is not a vacant throne waiting for a new deity. Purpose is for each of us to decide for ourselves, not to be dictated and enforced by the feaful and ignorant.
Han is Christian big guy
Nice
I’m not gonna lie… I’ve read many of Hans books but this video makes no sense to me. You need to include more citations for a video like this to make sense.
One can take Han's insights and compare them to the one time in the Gospels where Jesus was angered at the money changers in the Temple, and He chased them out, just by speaking the Truth they felt it as violence, as the Truth took their power away and over turned their tables of profit.
I took this moment in Gospels to mean that if we place Greed at the center of our being where we should be focused on God, we will commodify our neighbor to the point of dehumanizing them and eventually dehumanizing ourselves. The insatiable engine of Greed knows no constraints and will exploit all of nature and the living and every human (mark of the beast) until the point of exhaustion and collapse (annhilation=hell).
Good work telosbound.
The subjectivity of computing is completely wrong in your video. There is nothing more stilted and suffocatingly objective, as computer code.
All content given to the computing user is gardened, manufactured and manipulated for an outcome, there is very little subjectivity in computing, almost none at all.
It becomes extremely obvious once you try to make something genuinely new on a computer, and not rehashes of old ideas. The stifling limitations of programming, technology and computing, is a prison cell for the mind.
and yet modern society claims that Philosophy is a waste of time.😂
Elites dont want you to think thats dangerous, just do. Thats why they want to get rid of the humanities, no different than the mao cultural revolution. Just conform work and dont ask or challenge let alone think.
Don't buy it. Emotions turned into abstraction isn't honest for me.
The other and the same are never defined. Can you please explain what they are in simple, everyday language?