The Tablo You Don't Know | This Changed Everything About Korean Hip-Hop

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  • @lanonas2000
    @lanonas2000 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I never heard of him till he worked with RM. Haters are just gutless, stagnant trolls. I am sorry for him losing his Father. That must still weigh heavily on him. He is very talented and I am glad that he persevered. Thank you for sticking up for him.

  • @sharonnelson3713
    @sharonnelson3713 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I think K netizens are vicious. How they get pleasure out it tearing up people is something I don’t understand. I’m Korean American and to me it just brings down the Korean image. I’m proud of being Korean American but really ashamed of the toxicity.
    I don’t think they were keyboard warriors. They were keyboard tyrants!
    I didn’t know about Epik High until RM sang the song Umbrella. Amazing performance. Dan must have very high intelligence to go to Stanford and get his degrees in a shorter time.
    The alumni group as you said is dysfunctional but also made up with mostly cowards. They want the glory but not brave enough to stand for what is right. I respect your courage!

  • @Rubyventure17
    @Rubyventure17 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Thank you for supporting Tablo from Day1. It’s unthinkable only heaven knows what you all went through, especially Tablo and his family back then. Thank you for your work and be the light 💜

  • @ATLG1RL727
    @ATLG1RL727 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Wow! As a fairly new Tablo and Epik High fan I had no idea he had to endure such a grueling experience. It just breaks my heart! Thank you, Sean, for sharing the context. You are spot on about haters. They will never believe that Tablo and ppl like him have a natural ability to achieve. He worked hard to get where he is and I’m grateful for the gift of his music that he’s given the world.

  • @sheilalong425
    @sheilalong425 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    😢 Very painfully sad what he and his family went thru. It changed his life, but I hope he will have success now and be happy in what he is doing now. Plus, I hope SK will show some love and support for his new album!

  • @nayeonpark1023
    @nayeonpark1023 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I just stumbled upon this video through an algorithm. As a long-time fan of Tablo and Epik High, I really want to thank you for such an insightful video. I am so grateful that he lived through it, and Epik High is experiencing their all time high moment in their 20th anniversary!

  • @ComedyGlor
    @ComedyGlor ปีที่แล้ว +9

    omg i can't believe he went through all that. And the fact that he has to live with the pain of knowing his dad may have passed away simply bc of deluded bitter trolls is heartbreaking. His song "pieces of you" always made me cry the most but now it's really gonna make me cry a river 💔

  • @alsosprachZarathustra-fi2pm
    @alsosprachZarathustra-fi2pm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for such an interesting video!
    Now in 2024, we are still seeing how a relatively small group of people (surrounding Min Hee Jin) can easily manipulate public opinions, although in this case a very prominent 'public affairs' firm may be involved.
    It is great that you were able to help Tablo, and thanks for showing the video from college!
    The freshmen in that dorm must have had a great time with you and Tablo as staff!

  • @deisy688
    @deisy688 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    My first time I heard of Tablo is RM's latest album called All Day (with Tablo) and I love it, all RM's or Kim Namjoon's album "INDIGO", I love it, listen to Spotify, put in on in my car like every day, RM's collab with Table I love it too. So, listening to your vlog right now, I feel sorry for this guy Tablo went through. I don't really care where he graduated or whatever language he can speak or what not, if I love listening to his music, that all it matters. Doubts of people in Korea is quite really shallow.

  • @a.t.nelson1670
    @a.t.nelson1670 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    🤣 "I will faux pas you up!" I hope you are on my side if ever I need backup. It blows my mind how quickly people are willing to follow what one person says as truth without checking to see if it has even an ounce of truth to it. This is a problem here in the States too. Why would he lie about something that is so easily verifiable? I had no idea he or his family went through this crap. This makes me even happier that we are going to see him in April. Glad you had his back and let us know the truth.

  • @alohafromstef55
    @alohafromstef55 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You’re a good friend.

  • @aprilscarl5010
    @aprilscarl5010 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Is there a reason why Tablo couldn’t press charges against the people in that mob? HYBE is pressing charges against people who post malicious “gossip” against their artists. It would give people a pause before they tried it with some else.

    • @thewilliams2788
      @thewilliams2788 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Laws regarding online malicious comments and cyberbullying were different back then. They are still not great, but they are slowly improving

    • @jacque1in
      @jacque1in 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      According to the podcast, Tablo did have several of the ringleaders on the bulletin board charged. Eight people received short prison sentences.

  • @robinkitchen2182
    @robinkitchen2182 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Tablo? The name ranges a bell. He is also friends with Namjoon (RM) of BTS.They have a great song called All Day on Namjoon’s album. I have a new appreciation for this song! Tablo is obviously a creative genius.Seon had to be beyond frustrated. For the Grace of God. I said nothing until they came for me.

  • @alexandracarrico1765
    @alexandracarrico1765 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    In the U S it's Transcripts ! with grades, and a University seal stamped into it. Your Diploma is indeed a decoration. The transcripts are more informative for grad schools and employers. How awful for TABLO. S Korea needs slander laws, stiff and brutal in restitution and penalties.

  • @Liv_Loves_BTS
    @Liv_Loves_BTS ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I’m going to an Epik High concert in April! I have much respect for EH and Tablo. Everyone please go stream their new album Strawberry 🍓 !!

  • @debbievandyke2275
    @debbievandyke2275 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oakland, CA!!!! Read the Rolling Stone article, loved your contribution and the article in general. So proud of all of you!!!

    • @debbievandyke2275
      @debbievandyke2275 ปีที่แล้ว

      HI Sean, I am curious if any of those online haters were ever brought to justice? Or did it all just fizzle out? Such shameful behavior.

    • @seoulitetv
      @seoulitetv  ปีที่แล้ว

      Only about 10 were convicted.

  • @copaqueen
    @copaqueen ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am so appalled at how he was treated and his family went through so much! This made me sad! What kind of society vilifies a person who worked hard?!! I am happy that he continues to release music!

  • @stacyinfishers
    @stacyinfishers ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Totally off topic but could you talk about the lack of education KPop idols are receiving? No way is New Jeans getting “tutoring” with their schedule and trainees in general. Love your channel, thank you so much!

  • @SilverSeaOT7
    @SilverSeaOT7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There are many college programs where one could work on an advanced degree at the same time working on your Bachelor’s. Also some kids could take college level classes (AP or IB) in high school so could be a semester ahead or more their freshman year and thus graduate
    college early. (AP classes have been around since starting in 1952.)
    I feel that overlapping degrees like English/creative writing could be done in 3.5 years due to similar degree requirements. Especially if you are studying and not partying.
    Thanks for this back story. I will be checking out his album and his books! Just discovered he is an author. -

  • @susansergeant3161
    @susansergeant3161 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really enjoy your videos. I'm from the States and your videos help me understand the Korean perspective.

  • @eileencritchley4630
    @eileencritchley4630 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cheques here in the UK are very rarely used, we do everything via direct payment eg bank to bank transfer. Just like we do with international payments and we use card payments and now also QI payments from our mobile phones (cell phones for Americans) etc etc

  • @HailToTheMeep
    @HailToTheMeep ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just speculating: Given how an online campaign by a very big online group associated with IVE's company, against Le Sserafim in order to promote IVE's debut, was recently uncovered, is it possible that there was at that time a campaign against Tablo, because Epik High was outselling groups from SM?
    Dirty and unethical methods seem to be common practice? For example, SM did the same to INFINITE who was bought from Woolim, which according to your report here, is Tablo's first company.
    INFINITE was a competition to EXO. Lee Soo Man bought Infinite, and destroyed the group. I was told SM / Lee Soo Man (same diff since the man IS the company) told the fandom of INFINITE to buy EXO's albums if they want to ever see Infinite again in a comeback. From what I heard, in the hope of seeing INFINITE again the fandom did support EXO, but in return LSM killed the group. He never kept his promise.
    From what I heard, when Big Hit Entertainment was close to bankruptcy, someone offered to BUY BTS too. (Shudder).
    It is not too far fetched is it, that there was a more systematic effort to eliminate him from the competition. Especially given the crazy environment that you and many others have shared.

  • @kidjewel1468
    @kidjewel1468 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man, I am so glad that Tablo overcame this shite. It still takes place now. The only difference is that these days, there is an international audience where SK artists don't have to be bombed with idiocy. In one way or another, the SK fans don't run many things. It does not mean that they are not important; however, it means that SK artists have a breathing space. Imagine his agency distanced itself from him because they thought that the dimwitted man could destroy them. Now international fans will fly over and sue all those numpties.
    PS: It's so sad that it happened, but it made him a better person(not that he was bad); he learned more about human interactions, and I think he will never let anyone go through that kind of shite; he realized who his friends were. Thank you for standing by him. Many of these artists need friends like you.

  • @darcelburkhalter9617
    @darcelburkhalter9617 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sounded like they were either jealous or afraid of Tablo's intelligence. I sometimes wait for some group or individual to question RM's IQ.

  • @krislee5343
    @krislee5343 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So excited to see Epik High in Sacramento next weekend on April 9. Woohoooo! 🎉🎉🎉

  • @ttothek5367
    @ttothek5367 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was a teen when i discovered epik high and tablo back then and the entire "controversy" seemed like a fever dream to me.
    Those people took something way too far, that should have never been started.
    You would have thought he assaulted someone or commited some other crime, but i kept up with the whole thing and it was just about the diploma.
    If you were not talking about this and if tablo didn't give his interview it would all still just feel unreal.

  • @Condiciones2023
    @Condiciones2023 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The thing also Tablo admitting that he was not that studious , a rebel & did not have to work as hard academically to succeed? Imagine that would be every South Korean parents nightmare! This basically dispels the belief that as long as you study 24/7 you can achieve academic success. I can’t believe the harassment, bullying & targeting he suffered it’s disgusting. I feel for him so much.

  • @nneichan9353
    @nneichan9353 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah, I remember being attacked in school for busting the grading curve, then being a naive autistic kid when someone asked me how much I was studying I told the truth, I didn't study. made everything worse, so I learned to avoid telling people anything. whole lot of bullying.

  • @cindybee9270
    @cindybee9270 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think Jungkook sang one of their songs in his recent 4 hour Livestream.

  • @deborahscott8162
    @deborahscott8162 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sounds as if someone was jealous of his success.
    I have both of my degrees BA and M.ED from Texas Southern University, to provide proof when requested I got transcripts.
    So I guess the transcript proof from Stanford wasn’t enough 🤔
    I didn’t experience to an extreme what he went through but I have experienced issues from so called “friends “.
    I wish him all the happiness and success he deserves.🤲🏿💐

  • @mariasimoes7245
    @mariasimoes7245 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your channel

  • @thecreativemindfulheart3588
    @thecreativemindfulheart3588 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why are people not charged for this type of behaviour online bullying is dreadful and causes real mental health issues.

  • @SianyaD
    @SianyaD ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Epik High and Tablo rule. Loving the new "mini" album. I like between 5-10 songs on an album - a solid 30 minutes. It's fascinating watching bands like Epik High and The Rose getting their music out there in their own way. Too much drama and jealousy so sad that he is still going through this. Good overview. Thanks for your insights as usual.

  • @talkbangtan
    @talkbangtan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this sounds like mass gaslighting. how absolutely insane. completely bonkers. thank god tablo came out sane on the other side of it.

  • @davidmun1601
    @davidmun1601 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's one thing to be critical, but it's something else entirely to be hating on someone like this. Wishing those guys much success.

  • @jennelynnatividad464
    @jennelynnatividad464 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember seeing a documentary on him. Tobias Wolfe was even interviewed and he vouched for his attendance. Those people who targeted him should have been legally held to account.

  • @noona9369
    @noona9369 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As much as Korea is amazing, Korean society hides severe rot beneath the surface. Like Japan, it's so suffocating living out the daily expectations- face-prejudice that many become imbalanced and seek out to harm whoever they are jealous of. Tablo being one. Read the school bullying which is stoll prevalent, targeting of idols, ridiculously light sentencing of sexual crimes etc....Nothing has changed!
    Tablo, you are so so talented and a Tree with deep roots in Korea, you excel over the politicians, Korea and us audience need you. Always seeking out programs where you talk in depth, please host more talk show, you're prof jordan peterson of Korea

  • @kw6180
    @kw6180 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bullying is SK culture with no signs of subsiding, even with all of the suicides, crimes, and mental health issues... when will SK gp stand up and say enough is enough?!

  • @bbvistas7596
    @bbvistas7596 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For a teacher, they would recognize Tablo would be finished with his work faster than others, so he would be bored and needed something else to do. As a result, becoming a clown, playing, and acting out is his boredom.

  • @jamjellyy
    @jamjellyy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wait! So you are telling me there are people who ruined one's career and life over a FREAKING DIPLOMA! WTF! How can people have so much free time to do these! Like why would you care if he had a diploma or not! He is an artist! He proved himself with music and talent! And this should apply for all the idols..

  • @irmamtz4434
    @irmamtz4434 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spanish subtitles please. 🙏 Tablo 🥰🥰🥰

  • @bbvistas7596
    @bbvistas7596 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Was this not just hate on the guy who is originally American, isn't he? No. He is Canadian. All foreign-born idols had it bad, and there was always something to try to chase them out unless they were backed by a powerful family or company.

  • @soju81
    @soju81 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very detailed documentary. I felt bad for all of the harassment he endured. Question... Is Tablo actually 5'9? Just curious because I always thought he was mnuch shorter for some reason.

  • @kellypuente
    @kellypuente ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Korea technology advance soooo much, but Korea mentality stays in the 1900

    • @tessgella
      @tessgella ปีที่แล้ว +1

      very much on their old culture.

  • @nonatiu4998
    @nonatiu4998 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Watched him and daughter Haru and enjoyed them. Am not Korean. Only in Korea that they destroy people's life that some take their own life because of shame.

  • @marjohnbautista6182
    @marjohnbautista6182 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Partner

  • @wookie_79
    @wookie_79 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ARMAND!

  • @eileencritchley4630
    @eileencritchley4630 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    flipping eck that means Coldplay didn't get their degree's here in London while writing and composing their music when they started out and look at them now the Second Biggest Global Group/Band next to BTS. Or that the members of Queen didn't obtain their Degree's. That Brain May of Queen isn't also an astrophysicist with a PhD while writing and composing their music. One really has to laugh at the stupidity of some people.

  • @angloedu5499
    @angloedu5499 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Genuine artists never look back on their experiences with hate. It makes their narrative unamusing. This new generation of Korean immigrant singers unfortunately don’t have the talent that gives them an audience in the West. They are sometimes chastised as thats your people, your struggles.
    If only outside cultures could understand the frustration that these young Koreans went through, watching their friends get shot to death working in a shoe store in Detroit or Chicago for a summer job.
    It truly is sad that this is how far these young Korean immigrant kids have come. They have to travel two thousand miles across the Pacific, back to South Korea in order to get their voices heard! I for one am angered that none of the mainstream music industry wants to nurture their talents, they prefer to stay within their own click, but amusingly the westerners also complain they can’t get any recognition or following from a Korean music industry program. What is up with the agenda that represses one group and uplifts another?

  • @yoflor6412
    @yoflor6412 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about transcripts, would they have believed those documents? Those have the University’s seal.

    • @laraibahmed3090
      @laraibahmed3090 ปีที่แล้ว

      he released the transcripts twice and they still wouldn't take it. Professors from the university spoke multiple times in his support. It took him travelling back to stanford with a film crew and producing a whole documentary for them to calm down.

  • @0T7VK
    @0T7VK ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This has always baffled me. WHO cares where he went, didn't go..aishhh. Our backward cultures who know more about others than they know about themselves. That green head showing all the time! Well, Stanford or not, they rock and I'm going to the concert! Epik High time....as their concerts aren't colliding with BTS' like last time! :P

  • @taurielelf6886
    @taurielelf6886 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good grief, how did you cope with all this, I feel so bad for you, having to deal with crap, I had to go through the same thing, and ended up losing a few of my friends that, I had for 20 years, and all of a sudden, I was doggy doo doo, I couldn't sleep, I had no friends to talk to, as they all threw me off the boat, I was ghosted, and they started being childish, like they sent back Christman presents, that I had given to them, in the year before this happened, I ended up saying I was one of their Alumni, and wanted to meet for lunch, I did it all in one day, they were all alone in different cafes, and no one showed up at the time I had made, and I gave the man that would be serving them a card to give to them. It said, How does it feel to be alone, for no reason. I got 2 friends back, a 3rd friend I got back about a year later, because she had cancer, and we all went to visit her, and we closed the door on the past, so I kind of know how you feel a bit. I hope the problem is better now. Thanks for your videos, I always read them, and I get taught a lesson each time, your an amazing teacher. 😊😊👌👌

  • @anakirola9204
    @anakirola9204 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Tablo had a podcast (DIVE Studios) and was on Superman Kshow with his daughter Haru. He is also a powerful raw published poet. Not to mention a mentor for HipHop KR. He is a legend.

    • @alexsura2168
      @alexsura2168 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tablo is a genius and a good dad. And action speak louder than words. Watch his pod cast and return of Superman show. This guy is 100% humble warm hearted man and works hard to make it. And I'm glad he had his family's support.

    • @anastasiaabrahim9096
      @anastasiaabrahim9096 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I love Haru and her love G-Dragon

    • @yuklimka7251
      @yuklimka7251 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anastasiaabrahim9096 I watched Tablo on Return of Superman and Haru was adorable. There are two things I remember clearly: How shy she got when she met GD and that Tablo said he'll stop doing this show if Haru isn't having a good time. I didn't listen to hiphop until Festa 2023 when I found BTS. But I'll check out Epik High too. It's scary how many singers/idols. have been driven to a premature end by cyberbullying

  • @shirleynickorick4067
    @shirleynickorick4067 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This was such an incredible violation, betrayal of this amazing artist. That he still lives through this … truly tragic on a level that time will not cure. He is altered forever. I came to adore this artist about a year ago, not knowing any of this. He is genius in his own right. I am incredibly grateful to him for daring to continue in the face of this. We who support him in his success, understand this will never go away. It has become a part of his fate, his story. We will listen.

  • @tessgella
    @tessgella ปีที่แล้ว +23

    My RESPECT to Tablo.
    Thanks for sharing this so people will know.

  • @chittyramirez9238
    @chittyramirez9238 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Thank you for sharing your story about this. When I read about this online, I can't wrap my mind around it. It was too preposterous .Now I admire and respect Tablo even more.

  • @misosoup8030
    @misosoup8030 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Sean, I loved this video, explaining about Tablo. I’m on the newer side (over a year) of knowing about K-pop and when I discovered Epik High and Tablo, I never questioned Tablo’s credentials, and found myself being so proud of him. I heard about this controversy but had no idea about the magnitude of it. Those Korean haters are brutal! I’m so glad to see you coming to his defense. Love seeing your handsome younger photos as a reporter! You looked like a ‘bad boy’ when you were an RA at Stanford, but I’m sure you were an excellent student! Proud of you too! 👍🏼👏🏼😍

    • @LiLiJoon
      @LiLiJoon ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed.

  • @beab4541
    @beab4541 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What an amazing report , you never fail to amaze us with your subjects and angle to treat them.

  • @every777dayz
    @every777dayz ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always appreciated your inside the industry type analysis, but my respect for you as a person just shot up. I appreciate that you stood with him. I know how damaged he and his family have been by that whole scandal, even to this day, even to the point that in a recent conversation on Suga's podcast he said he would not have become a musician if he had it to do over again. My own theory about the cause of that was because of the large no. of westerners living in Korea and exposing Koreans to a culture they didn't like. Tablo's hip hop rebellious style and Canada/USA roots made him the target of that dislike. I also thought that there might be govt. involvement in that organization to try to destroy his influence. His career was never the same after that. I'm not a big hip hop fan, but Tablo is such a good guy, I can't help but love him.

  • @franchellemarshman4867
    @franchellemarshman4867 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Sean this was a complicated situation and you explained it well. So proud that you came to his defense! Cudos to you. That was difficult. I gotta be a special kind of dumb here. I just don't understand how in the world you can ruin someone else's WHOLE life and get away with it. Is that site still functioning? Are any of them behind bars? Defamation of character here. In the SJM case we had to call the other guy " Mr A" because be was a suspect. We couldn't say his name at all. Is it because there are no laws concerning crimes committed on the internet? They went to his university. Openly harassed his friends. Hastened his father's death through stress. Caused his mother's business to close. Esentially ripped his life apart. Please 🙏 tell me what justice was done to make amends. I fhink we're lucky he didn't commit suicide as so many have done. There is no WAY any of us could possibly understand what he went through. So congrats to him. He's a survivor of the first order. Congrats on his new album because the best revenge is to live well. I pray all the best for him and his family from now on....

  • @get2myra
    @get2myra ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I first came to know of Tablo on the show "Return of Superman" when Haru was just a toddler. And I became a fan of Epik High back in 2014. Then because of that, became somewhat aware of his struggles during the scandal. Only last year while listening to podcast "Authentic: The Story of Tablo" did i come to know his pain 💔 😢 . Oh my goodness. I celebrate his strength of mind and character. I think his love for his family, in particular, his deep connection with Haru is where he has incredible motivation, strength and determination to rise up and conquer those who tried to crush him. Thank you for airing this. And I hope more people will go to the podcast to listen too.

  • @loretopg
    @loretopg วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you so much for speaking about this injustice.

  • @peppyluscious
    @peppyluscious ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for sharing this... I had no clue you had personal experience with this situation. Thank heavens it's all in the past!

  • @colleenbuxton9686
    @colleenbuxton9686 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you so much for setting the record straight. I cannot help but wonder how much talent and prestige for Korea has been cut short too early at the hands of murderous mobs on the internet. I mourn the loss of the singers and actors who lost their lives by their own hand because of this behavior. It is murder- nothing less. I salute Tablo and those who survived this and it is my fervent prayer that they be blessed double portion,pressed down shaken together and running over.

  • @adrieanneirwin5328
    @adrieanneirwin5328 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When it comes to gossip Don’t believe anything you hear or read and only 50% of what you see, well done to you for being so brave and standing your truthful ground and not being intimidated.🙈🙉🙊

  • @phyllo2694
    @phyllo2694 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ok saw the end of the live and waited to see the beginning. As part of BTS Army in the states one of my joys had been finding groups and individuals who are singers but not part of the traditional k pop genre. Epic high has been one of them. It is sad that he has gone thru all this unnecessary hassle.
    There are many very smart and accomplished people who are/have been able to successfully maneuver thru the systems and come out looking like the stars. It is sad that some who are not so blessed have to take it upon themselves to question what they will never understand or accomplish.
    I will be listening to the new music and streaming if I like it, hopefully others will do the same.
    Thanks for the update and information

  • @janerogers8201
    @janerogers8201 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I read about this in now defunct Korean-American magazine called KoreAm back in 2014(?) and it was mind blowing the hypocrisy, judgmental society that is the land of my people. I thought this mindset and attitude was just my family but nope! I think I also heard or read somewhere that a Korean-American man in New Jersey started this whole controversy, do you know if that’s correct?

  • @ksam545
    @ksam545 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The hypocrisy of those jealous haters. Harassing and doxing Tablo's friends & acquaintances while themselves hiding behind pseudonymous identities like cowards.

  • @EnjoyingLife2024
    @EnjoyingLife2024 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    TY for this video. As a newbie to Kpop, I've been wondering how Kpop fans react when their idol needs concerted help and support at key times in their lives. Tablo's experience seems to be a common experience in the Kpop culture. Fans weaponizing themselves to attack an idol or celebrity who seems to be doing well remains a familiar strategy even in 2024. This isn't healthy nor is it practical. This type of behavior is a major turnoff to Kpop's international fans.
    It seems to me that there are enough idols, celebrities, and Media folks, like yourself, who've experienced the effects of this fan weaponization to unite together and form a company where their incredible talents can shine in the global entertainment marketplace. Why hasn't this counterbalance to the fans' mobilization happened? It seems like a no brainer.
    International fans have no problem supporting artists, entertainers, and others who they feel are being unfairly targeted. In fact, Americans and Europeans go out of their way to support an artitst financially as an act of defiance when this abuse happens. International fans can be weaponized as well, but generally not for hostile reasons unless a celebrity has done something criminal. Why aren't international fans given the chance to weigh-in and help support these artists under attack? Is it because of different cultures or is it because of a lack of global awareness when an issue arises?
    The current MHJ-HYBE saga is evidence of the.possibility that experiences like Tablo's could be counteracted by the international Kpop audience. Internationals...including myself...are convinced MHJ is in the wrong. And the international fans won't be bullied by Korean fans into changing this conclusion despite Korean fandom doing its best to flip our support away from HYBE. As such, HYBE continues to enjoy making money for its business instead of being destroyed by the controversy. Why can't this appeal to the international market and fandoms help current and former Kpop idols and celebrities ostracized by their local communities? Why hasn't this approach been tried as a formal united strategy instead of a random happenstance? What am I missing?
    I really want to understand what can be put in place as an antidote to the poisonous and unhealthy mobilization of Korean Hallyu fans that's happening even today in 2024. We need to stop the Tablo Effect for once and for all. It's time to take action.🤔

  • @angelsmilkyway4352
    @angelsmilkyway4352 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why do people care so much? Who cares if he went to Stanford? That's insane

    • @Sunset553
      @Sunset553 ปีที่แล้ว

      I attended a similar university in the US. Students are thrilled to be accepted, but they don’t realize they’ve lifted themselves away from many people. The amount of anger, insults made in jest, and hatred alumni receive are unbelievable. If I knew that that was part of the legacy of graduating from an elite university, I wouldn’t have included the status as a reason for attending. The alumni who do get support from the community are those who attend public universities which are relatively difficult to enter, (and preferably have strong football teams).

    • @angelsmilkyway4352
      @angelsmilkyway4352 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Sunset553 wow. it's a shame people are so miserable and self hating.

  • @eileencritchley4630
    @eileencritchley4630 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For example here in the UK depending on the subject you are studying you can get your BA and MA in 4years. Been there done that while working 16hours a week admin work in the accounts department of a large company.

  • @anazaragoza3856
    @anazaragoza3856 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sean, Thank you! I love your podcast - love how your not afraid to call it like it is. I'm thankful that Epik High is back to stay! I'm going to their concert at the end of the month and can't wait to see these amazing artists 💓

  • @LiLiJoon
    @LiLiJoon ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I guess the online mob people made a big fuss about Tablo's credentials because they were plain jealous. Sometimes jealous people love to 'crucify' those who make a name for themselves be it in education, career and whatnot. Poor Tablo. He and his family truly suffered. I supposed Tablo's situation was something like a case of at the wrong place and at the wrong time. These online nasty mob people had nothing better to do thus spent time on social media spewing anger and hatred. I read somewhere that a few of them were finally charged with defamation. Serves them right if indeed they were were charged with defamation. For what it's worth, I like Tablo and I like his part in Taeyang's Eyes, Nose and Lips. In my opinion, he is the 'master/ sifu' when it comes to lyricism. I salute him for graduating with a Bachelor's Degree in English Literature and Masters in Creative Writing. To all those jealous haters who had nothing better to do, get a decent life instead of spewing anger and hatred onto others who worked hard to be at where they are. People who spend their time feeling jealous and spewing anger and hatred are nothing but scums.

  • @ProudNoona2019
    @ProudNoona2019 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did he ever pursue legal charges against anyone because of all of this?

  • @chantellrichters2446
    @chantellrichters2446 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    OMG. Poor guy. What’s wrong with ppl?? I bet these ppl on line never apologised to him. My heart goes out to him n his family 💗🐨🇦🇺

    • @LiLiJoon
      @LiLiJoon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the disadvantage of advancement of ICT is that it creates the dark side of social media.

    • @chantellrichters2446
      @chantellrichters2446 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LiLiJoon couldn’t agree with you more 😊

  • @FranHutchison
    @FranHutchison ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow Sean another great Video.
    I never saw that Video of "Julie and her Art Studio and being blasted with a hose"?
    Could you provide me a Link and how can I help her?
    I feel so bad for what Tablo went through.
    To me I feel Tablo is very committed in his work. That is not a crime to be driven which he is.
    The Internet was never supposed to be like this. It's gotten worse.
    There are too many people online that their sole purpose is to bring successful people down due to their jealousy.
    People cannot handle other people doing better, being successful, being smarter, so they maliciously try to destroy them because they themselves are lacking.

    • @seoulitetv
      @seoulitetv  ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/QmD_AQCwdf8/w-d-xo.html

  • @lolitaborja8050
    @lolitaborja8050 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am Sorry Sean you have to suffer too supporting Tablo...

  • @janicebolosan119
    @janicebolosan119 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I started listening to them during the pandemic and last year I was able to see them last year!! It was such a awesome show!! Gonna see them in a few months! Mini album is great!!

  • @vegaslola6678
    @vegaslola6678 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Frankly, my only exposure to Korean culture comes from K-Drama but your description of what happened to Tablo is so typical of the machinations of villains in a K-Drama. I hope Tablo is faring better now. I enjoyed his recent collaboration with RM of BTS which should bring him a fresh new audience, like me.

  • @paulascott5010
    @paulascott5010 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love you sir for standing up and being strong, may you go even further.

  • @sharonvyse5370
    @sharonvyse5370 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awe so sad that’s awful how people treated him 😮

  • @conniepowell2013
    @conniepowell2013 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good grief! The hatred and jealousy of some people is just insane. If they would spend a little more time improving themselves instead of tearing others down maybe they could accomplish something in their own lives. We have those kinds of folks here in America but it is mainly jealousy of someone having more things than them. I was blown away when I started watching BTS and then some K-Pop at how people just did all they could to tear idols down. If you don't like them don't listen to their music and go on with your life. It seems some psycho people see success as a crime. Just can't wrap my mind around that kind of jealousy. Hope this gentleman will be able to have a better life now but the scars will never go away. Just so sad

  • @alexsura2168
    @alexsura2168 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Society are basically stupid and can't accept others achievements cause they are losers. Only losers have the time to make a task to ruin someone's life. I feel bad for tablo and his family and what they have gone through. Someone need to apologize and held accountable for what they have done. They deserve to be put in prison.

  • @lolitaborja8050
    @lolitaborja8050 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow...that was insane...it reminds me about how those Jealous underground rappers went tearing up RM and SUGA before also people who would not stand up for BTS saying they will just be more richer..this is sad..😭but Tablo just collaborated with RM...

  • @lamoskgr
    @lamoskgr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You stood on the right side of history and the student association being petty is just childish.

  • @katieguid2005
    @katieguid2005 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m absolutely amazed at the time and energy haters take towards successful people online. People need to mind their business and focus on themselves.

    • @katieguid2005
      @katieguid2005 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not only online but in general.

  • @wendicottrill3573
    @wendicottrill3573 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hate it when someone whom has been successful gets attack for nothing. How is your artist friend doing ? I think about her from time to time. As well as SJM

  • @tinawalker6770
    @tinawalker6770 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow that was very shameful. Respectful, hurtful to any human being.
    I'm very disappointed for Koreans' mob to think and believed that No Korean could be smart in school in a foreign school education.
    Their journey over shadow them that their hatred against Tablo shows that Koreans are not smart out of South Korea's education system.
    No matter being full Korean or half Korean citizen that country's name is always going to be on you.
    This what makes some people end up doing the unreasonable thing.
    They didn't care if that was in Korean Language because all they were after was to destroyed him.
    A big celebration and appreciation to Tablo that he didn't commit suicide.
    Thanks for sharing and the clarification of Tablo's situation.

  • @lisatankus1470
    @lisatankus1470 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Going to epik high concert as well in march. Cant wait to show support for all!

  • @bbvistas7596
    @bbvistas7596 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Woolim Ent was breaking ground with Infinite by this time, right? They were probably scared that hate could fall on their new group.

  • @Youngshimi
    @Youngshimi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    JEALOUSY IS EVIL. AND WHEN SOMEONE CHOOSES TO DESTROY YOUR ENTIRE LIFE WITH DOUBTS, THAT SOMEONE SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. IVE WATCHED TABLO ON THE KOREAN SUPERMAN PROGRAM WITH HIS DAUGHTER AND WIFE A FEW YEARS. TABLO SHOULD NOT PUT UP WITH ANY NONSENCE FROM ANYONE EVER AGAIN. PUT ALL THE HATERS IN CHECK ,(USING THE AMERICAN TERM)

  • @deisy688
    @deisy688 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ohhh so he is Korean Canadian, so what? What about Sam Kim? I love all his music. Eric Nam? Love his music too. DPR IAN? Love his music too. pH-1? Love his music as well. Their all Korean, whether they grew up in the US or in Australia or in Europe, they are artist and if they debut in South Korea and they are famous now, good for them. What they don't realized, I am listening to their songs & music not in Korea, I listened to them on platforms in Spotify or Apple Music, which I don't see them as Korean or American, I only listen to their voice period. I love listening to them.

  • @210-ws9kk
    @210-ws9kk ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did anything happen to those trolls / online mob that spread those false rumours about him? They ruined his life, literally.

    • @emilyl1094
      @emilyl1094 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please watch this interview with Tablo about his false accusations th-cam.com/video/x8JpbuoU9Rk/w-d-xo.html

  • @paulascott5010
    @paulascott5010 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's time for many to grow up alittle and stop using any means to continue to drag people who is hard working for theirs and be happy for their own achievements or what makes them be more positive in their lives.

  • @ritalubeck5129
    @ritalubeck5129 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How could anyone be so cruel

  • @manuelsbaird9448
    @manuelsbaird9448 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WOW, they don't even look to be about 20 years old..

  • @celiajamal2718
    @celiajamal2718 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a horrific thing to happen to anyone. Mr Tablo be strong and never give up . Mr Sean thank you for sharing this with us 🇳🇱

  • @manuelsbaird9448
    @manuelsbaird9448 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lol I just love your attitude...

  • @hannah27_99
    @hannah27_99 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't know anything about Tablo but the story of what happened to his dad is heartbreaking. and this alumni, sounds like a bunch of snobs to me. Wait, if there's a Stamford Korean Alumni then there's also a Harvard Korean Alumni. So on and so forth. Just thinking...

    • @hannah27_99
      @hannah27_99 ปีที่แล้ว

      sorry, I stand corrected. StaNford.

  • @mariasimoes7245
    @mariasimoes7245 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don’t people believe that a person is INNOCENT until proven GUILTY.
    Have proof before humans decide to point fingers for unsustainable rumours that could end in disaster for the people,their family and friends involved.
    I RESPECT tradition and South Korea is defined by that tradition but I personally feel they need to adjust a bit with the times. Tradition is very good , but there’s good Traditions and bad Traditions. We did evolved so much since the 50’s - 60’s and traditions should also accompany the evolution of times