I agree that FBIGO and Give Ground should be next but I need a way to describe break tests that doesn't give me a headache and making multiple piles of dice each time!
At around the 9:20 mark you are saying, if I understood you correctly, that if a unit has the Chariot Runners USR, the chariot cannot charge through it, unless the Chariot Runner unit also charges - this is contrary to what is stated in the rulebook: "Friendly models whose troop type is chariot can draw a line of sight over or through models with this special rule and can move through friendly units if they are in Skirmish formation and if the majority of models have this special rule". It is unambiguous: if the chariot has line of sight, it can charge, and since a chariot has line of sight over/through skirmishers with the CR USR, it can (and in case of Frenzied or Impetuous chariots who have not passed their Ld test, must) charge, regardless of what the skirmishing unit does. Other than that, I want to say I like your videos, have watched all of them so far and look forward to more :)
Hi, thanks for your comment! As I was saying that in the video, I was wondering "do wolf riders have chariots runners naturally?" So unfortunately that was a bad example. I wanted to just demonstrate skirmishing units screening for frenzied units more generally. Not the specific uses for Chariot Runners, which could be another video....
@@Zenfoxgames Did you also not say something in the line of that shooting at the chariot would give it cover. Rules as written you can't shoot at the chariot full stop unless you are standing on a hill or you fire with a model that has the large target rule. You can't see over units otherwise, including the gaps in skirmishing units.
@@MrCABman1972 why can't you see through the gaps in skirmish units? "Other units can see through units in Skirmish formation if a line of sight can be drawn between the individual models. The individual models block line of sight as normal"
@@Zenfoxgames Yes, you can draw line of sight through the gaps in a skirmishing unit, that is true. I was mixing that up that you can't move through the gaps with another unit, unless special rules apply. Although you should uite easily be able to put the skirmishers in such a way they do block line of sight. Remember that it is the models base that block line of sight and not the models itself.
Scouts does not count for which side deploy last, that is the whole point with scouts... they are already there just revealed at the end of the deployment. The text of the rule quite literallu give you the intention of the rule and anyone trying argue otherwise really are trying to twist the intention of the rule. The rule description say "Scouts are advance troops who sneak onto the battlefield in order to seize vital locations before the two armies clash.". If anyone tries to argue they should get +1 on the rull becasue I have one scouting uits and far less drop they they have I would not play against, that is absurd.
@@punchyMiddleEarth I know that the rules as written is ambigous. But you also can go back to all the previous editions and see how they have worked previously, never counted as part of deployment before so likely not going to now either. It also make zero sense. Scouting are suppose to give you a tactical advantage, it is part of why they are scouting in the first place. Just lucky I never go to tournments and never will, not my thing.
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I like this kind of explanation. I need to get better when doing my deployment cause i made to many "missmatches" for some of my units.
i Think we need one video about flee, fall back in good order and give ground :/
I agree that FBIGO and Give Ground should be next but I need a way to describe break tests that doesn't give me a headache and making multiple piles of dice each time!
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At around the 9:20 mark you are saying, if I understood you correctly, that if a unit has the Chariot Runners USR, the chariot cannot charge through it, unless the Chariot Runner unit also charges - this is contrary to what is stated in the rulebook: "Friendly models whose troop type is chariot can draw a line of sight over or through models with this special rule and can move through friendly units if they are in Skirmish formation and if the majority of models have this special rule". It is unambiguous: if the chariot has line of sight, it can charge, and since a chariot has line of sight over/through skirmishers with the CR USR, it can (and in case of Frenzied or Impetuous chariots who have not passed their Ld test, must) charge, regardless of what the skirmishing unit does.
Other than that, I want to say I like your videos, have watched all of them so far and look forward to more :)
Hi, thanks for your comment! As I was saying that in the video, I was wondering "do wolf riders have chariots runners naturally?" So unfortunately that was a bad example. I wanted to just demonstrate skirmishing units screening for frenzied units more generally. Not the specific uses for Chariot Runners, which could be another video....
@@Zenfoxgames Did you also not say something in the line of that shooting at the chariot would give it cover. Rules as written you can't shoot at the chariot full stop unless you are standing on a hill or you fire with a model that has the large target rule. You can't see over units otherwise, including the gaps in skirmishing units.
@@MrCABman1972 why can't you see through the gaps in skirmish units?
"Other units can see through units in Skirmish formation if a line of sight can be drawn between the individual models. The individual models block line of sight as normal"
@@Zenfoxgames Yes, you can draw line of sight through the gaps in a skirmishing unit, that is true. I was mixing that up that you can't move through the gaps with another unit, unless special rules apply.
Although you should uite easily be able to put the skirmishers in such a way they do block line of sight. Remember that it is the models base that block line of sight and not the models itself.
Its true that Scouts affect on the +1 needs to be clarified by GW
Scouts does not count for which side deploy last, that is the whole point with scouts... they are already there just revealed at the end of the deployment. The text of the rule quite literallu give you the intention of the rule and anyone trying argue otherwise really are trying to twist the intention of the rule. The rule description say "Scouts are advance troops who sneak onto the battlefield in order to seize vital locations before the two armies clash.". If anyone tries to argue they should get +1 on the rull becasue I have one scouting uits and far less drop they they have I would not play against, that is absurd.
@MrCABman1972 thats not how every tournament has been playing it, typical GW rules writing 💩
@@punchyMiddleEarth I know that the rules as written is ambigous. But you also can go back to all the previous editions and see how they have worked previously, never counted as part of deployment before so likely not going to now either. It also make zero sense. Scouting are suppose to give you a tactical advantage, it is part of why they are scouting in the first place.
Just lucky I never go to tournments and never will, not my thing.