I am not blessed with lots of melanin, yet go to a church where I am loved by all and where there are a lot of members with various shades of skin color. Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. God is no respecter of persons, and died for the sins of the whole world.
YOU ARE BRAINWASHED!!! This god thang is out of control. How many times did the screacha or congregation members invited you over for dinner? You ain't Black; you're just covered with Black skin, but wite on the inside! WAKE UP
Same. I have looked for biblical sound churches in area and have not found a black church that is. Not saying that all white churches our but those who are sound are few and far between nowadays.
I am an American, and I attended an Asian Church that, like Smart Christian Life, taught sound Doctrine. To my surprise, I was made to feel like a member of their Church family. As Christians, we are all Brothers & Sister in Christ 👃🙏
Wow… race… there is neither Jew nor Greek in Christ. We as believers should never be divided based on race. Praying for these 2 people. We shouldn’t be dividing people of God.
AMERICAN HISTORY IS REAL!!! The original Slave Bible was published by Law and Gilbert publishing house in London in 1807, and the copy belonging to Fisk University was published the following year. It was published on behalf of the Society for the Conversion of Negro Slaves to educate enslaved Africans and preserve the system of slavery. Why Bibles Given to Slaves Omitted Most of the Old Testament The so-called “Slave Bible” told of Joseph’s enslavement but left out the parts where Moses led the Israelites to freedom.
That's plantation christianity. The verse is metaphorical. Do you literally believe there is neither man nor woman either? Maybe in the catholic church.😅
And I go to a predominantly Black Church, where we have a few White people in it, and I've been to visit a predominantly White Church with a few Black people in it, it's time we take segregation out of the church and be one body of Christ like the Bible calls us to be and make sure we're being a BIBLICAL church, NOT a RACIAL church.
What you are advocating sounds good but it will never happen until Christians on both sides are willing to HONESTLY deal with the past. Our introduction to Christianity is so horrible and no one wants to deal with it so these things will continue to exist. Has anyone ever took a look at a map of the Slave States and compared that map to a map of the states that make up the Bible Belt? One has to ask why are the states where the bible is most prominent the same states in which owning Africans is legal? Black Christians are ashamed of this history and will do anything to avoid to maintain their comfort. And White Christians feel extremely guilty and dealing with this takes them out of their comfort zone.. Its a Cold Game
We were the white family at the mostly black church it wasn't that weird for me my school was half black half white most of my friends were black i grew up and then moved to an all white area and then that felt weird lol
Well, during slavery times, Black people were not allowed to worship with white people, so ot kind of stuck. Also, black churches have been breeding grounds for Black revolution and protected our personhood while white churches fought against integration.
I think and hope that soon Black people as a whole will re-exam our relationship with religion altogether. The ties to our subjugation are unavoidable and constantly glossed over.
I came out of over 30 years of Islam into a “black” church. I learned nothing of significance-just some BAD theology. In fact, one of the last times I went to that black church, Jamal Bryant guest peached (he is a friend of that pastor). He suckered me (at the time I was a laid-off, poor, single Black mother) into giving my last dime for the blessing of being able to pay my bills that week. Didn’t happen. I fell away. Over a decade later, I am flourishing in my faith AT A “WHITE” CHURCH. Because of God, not man. I am back with a vengeance, for God says to not neglect fellowship. Most Reformed/Calvinistic churches are populated by White brothers and sisters. So what? I am learning and growing and I love what God is doing in my life.
When we all get to heaven, we will be the redeemed family of God worshipping and praising God for eternity! WE WILL NOT BE SEPARATED BY "RACE" BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO SUCH THING IN HEAVEN!!
@Cavalier-km2bewow, lady gives her testimony and all you got to say is well you still ain't good enough. Well that's why we need a savior you as well.
I'm not a preacher, but your story is the warning I have been putting off for years. It has nothing to do with race, a white preacher could have told you the same. It's the danger of pushing people away from Christ , while they fill their pockets with money. Sadly single mothers , people that are ill or have ill children are their targets. I'm happy that you found your way back, and that these men, black or white, don't represent Jesus. God bless.
They are VERY STRONG on missions Even in African Nations You rarely see a traditional black church..giving to missions in these nations These pastors also Practice tithing to them
Maybe that should be taken with a grain of salt though because the "white-savior complex" is a real thing, and certain people are very much motivated by that. One thing to gauge is if they spend THOUSANDS of dollars to do overseas missions to areas where the people are poor and darker-skinned, but won't do ANYTHING for those same kinds of people in the urban areas in their own city. They'll only go to places where they are the celebrity because of what they look like and what they bring with them, and even the poor people overseas now know how to "play the game" to get what they want from the visiting mission-trippers. Many black churches tend to not do missions because their pastor's new suit is the mission; the pastor's wife's new car is the mission; the new building is the (never accomplished) mission, etc.
I KNOW HE DIDN"T JUST SAY THAT!!!! I GUESS HE THINKS THE BODY OF CHRIST HAS A WHITE SECTION AND A BLACK SECTION. THERE IS NO DIVISION IN THE BODY OF CHRIST! I don't even want to go and hear a lot of shouting. I need to learn and I can take that and do my own shouting.
Since he’s a heretic he’s not in the Body of Christ. All of this conjecture on his part. Since he has never attended a predominantly white church he has no idea whether or not they allow blacks on the finance team.
@@jukejoint523jordan6 I'm just trying to understand your statement, no need to be combative...what are you considering "blatant" racism? and what does America discussing this have to do with the body of the church? Social justice and the Gospel have nothing to do with one another...
I was saved at a predominantly white church. I would’ve stayed except I moved out of the area. If people have the love of Christ and someone experiences racism, then lovingly confronting that person about their racism is in order.
I am white and I was raised in a black church.I thank God that my mom and step father took me to church at all,it just happened to be Bethlehem Baptist Church under the late Pastor Jones,who was a holy Ghost filled, fire and brimstone preacher, sadly the church that I was raised in is no longer that way.I am blessed that the seed was planted.ToGodBeTheGlory!!!!
Yeah that's cool for you but us Black Folks in the states are English speaking Christians because our slave master was an English speaking Christian. Yall chose to go to a black church. We were forced into a religion of our former slave masters. That history will always cause problems
@@oldschool5 That wasn't Christianity. I heard about the Bible made for slaves and God wouldn't ever condone that! Many will say Lord, Lord and many professing christians will be told the same, that He never knew them, depart from Me you workers of lawlessness!!! 😔 It's a fearful thing for a sinner to fall into the hands of the Holy God!!!
@@PandySearl No. Every slave didnt have a slave bible. That existed in a certain place for a certain time. The fact is that we were introduced to this religion by slave masters. That's a fact. And most Black Christians hate to admit that. We never knew about Jesus Noah Bible God Moses or Abraham. We learned about these characters from our slave master. That's a fact. If you ever really want to know who really dogged out your people all you have to do is just look at the holidays you celebrate, the language you speak and the god that you pray to. Ofern times that will tell you who destroyed your ancestors
I am a black person in a predominately white church and I am involved in the finance and highest levels of leadership in my church. I’ve never felt more loved and cared for than at my current church.
I'm in a predominantly white church as well. That seems to be where my ministry assignments are right now. I work in leadership and with the youth department as well. Also, I'm on the church board and I don't seem to focus on whether we're white or black but whether or not we're ministering the gospel of truth from the scriptures.
It is never acceptable to treat people poorly, especially when you claim to be a Christian. I’ve seen coldness and rudeness at Black churches, but there are a lot of stuck up, stank faced people at too many churches. As a result, it can be challenging finding a church home that’s a good fit. Ultimately, I lean toward any church that’s actually Bible based. The people at those churches tend to be kinder too so I don’t care what color they are, and I surely don’t care what any hateful person thinks about it.
True! It doesn’t matter to God’s kingdom or those who seek it. Sometimes our words reveal what we’re truly seeking and it’s not what we ourselves realize.
My pastor is white, and so are most of the members. The area is not a "good" area. I go there because they preach the gospel and are sound in doctrine. They teach, lead, and stand on the word of GOD. That's why i go there, not for any other reason.
I attend a wonderfully diverse church. We sing songs in English, Spanish and Korean. Our lead pastor is black and came from a historic black church and I love it there. Everyone is welcoming and kind and the word of God is preached truthfully and fearlessly. I refuse to go to a black church for the foolishness exhibited in the video. I'm sure not all black churches are like that but I'm not taking any chances. I feel more connected to the people in my church than most that I encounter on a daily basis because of our shared love of Jesus, which transcends race.
What Jamal said about blacks not being in the finance department of predominantly white church is not true. The church I attend does have a black associate pastor on the finance team.
I’m Hispanic and attended mostly predominantly white churches and was accepted! I attended and was a minister AND served on the trustee board at a black church for 9 years (COGIC) was accepted and warmly received as family! Man I just don’t know……
It shouldn’t matter as long as it is a Christ led church but the hurts people experience in life will draw you to a church where you are comfortable because people look like you. I don’t begrudge anyone going to a church that is sound in the Word and lifts up Christ. But I refuse to condemn church service that is jubilant. Some things about the church when looked at closer are cultural and not necessarily racial.
Thank you for covering this subject. My son is mixed and it was hard to find a church when he was young. The white church didnt want him there and the black church didnt want me there. Church seems like the last place to have this foolishness
The Devil. All these false churches are of the devil except the one Jesus created and he called 12 ordained Apostles. Jesus church must have a Prophet and 12 Apostles that works in unity and that true church is restored upon the church and no foolishness or worldly trends are apart of it. These Bishops are not paid a salary to preach. Congregations can be predominant with one group or another depending the demographic. You go to the Caribbean, mostly black people, go to Africa, mostly black people, go to North America mostly white people. We are all one. Only Satan wants us separated.
@@barbeegirl7196And the clueless congregation! Never forget- this was once Eddie Long’s church. He went to his grave denying that he was a gay pedophile. God knows the truth. Bottom line, this church’s history is to back the pastor- no matter what.
My son and I experienced racism in my last church. That showed me that it wasn’t actually a church led by Christ. I do not assume every single church with diversity will be the same. There were other little red flags before the event. I have learned and will continue to search for a Biblical church, regardless of what color the people are.
I attend a predominantly white church and I get along well with them all. They have all been really wonderful people to me and I to them. And it’s Not fake. Real people of God don’t worry about race. We realize that we are all brothers and sisters in Christ.
I've attended both a black and white church for equally 10 years. My best experiences and learning of true salvation was in the white church. And, yes, there are blacks working finances in the white church. 😏
That's where I came to Christ in a church that had a white Pastor. The black churches i have attended throughout my life never filled me. I went there the feeling empty and left empty. The Pastor at the white church went through the scriptures. He broke it down which made it more understanding. I would go home and pick up where he left off. Maybe if the black pastors would just say the scriptures and stop trying to cough up a lung to the playing of music. Always looking for a shout/praise break moment. Just give people the word
Talking negatively about a black pastor with a black congregation is easy for black people to do. Remember the old saying back in the day "the white man's ice is colder"
The world has a lot of strife. We're not denying the historical struggles among the ethnicities. God didn't. It's all through scripture with the children of Israel. In-fighting among the tribes, fighting among the descendants of Ishmael, fighting among those in the commonwealth of Israel and those outside. (Barbarians, Greeks, etc.) Babel... look at the division there. When we fellowship in heaven, we'll be rubbing elbows with people of all ethnicities (Revelation 7:9). In fact, some of those same people who hated us in this life who have been converted might be right next to us. (Revelation 7:9). The point is to overcome. That's what the child of God does. They overcome. They overcome evil with good. They overcome sectarianism. They overcome ignorance. The overcome society's need of classism. The evil is there, but we overcome (first wrestling with our own conscience).
I go to a white church because they aren’t political and the one I go to actually teaches the gospel line by line. I tried to find a black church, but the SEVEN I went to were political, too lax in dress, have female pastors, lack of traditional songs, and the “sermons” were really just pep talks. I’m not here to here to listen to men talk and give their opinions. I’m here to LEARN. If someone knows of a black church that is not like the aforementioned black churches I’ve visited in CHICAGO, let me know.
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The more I hear Jamal Bryant talk the more it becomes clearer that the HOLY SPIRIT is absence in his life! It’s sad to watch he’s fired from ministry and doesn’t even know it.
There was nothing wrong with the brother "Praising The Lord In a Dance" @12:39 Don't call it Foolishness,David danced until his clothes fell off! If King David were in this time, you would have called him foolish.!!
I'm "white" and I honestly think they don't want you to go to other churches because they don't want you to think of yourself as Christians but black people. There are political churches and pentecostal churches but the people who go to those they know after a couple times, that aint it either.
As an american with filipino ethnicity, we Christians should not be segregated for the color of our skin, but come together and worship Christ our Savior
I enjoy this presentation. However, I never understood Voddie's opinion that he had a duty to join a predominantly white church as an avenue of racial reconciliation. If he honored God's command, great! Nonetheless, I don't know if his family was going to change the bigger issue of racial divisions.
I went to a Baptist church a four years ago and they have the nerve to start out with the politics and if someone in the house wont vote kick them out i left asap and never looked back one thing that grinds my gears is beating forced fed with politics
This conversation is far more nuanced. Damon Redding is on point! Many black parishioners make the faith cycle which we see over and over again. They grow up in the black church full of Jesus and the loud gospel music, but you don’t feel you are getting enough teaching. You leave for the white church and get reformed theology and the riverdance music. You worship with many people who don’t look like you which can be a great thing! You get involved in ministry and serve. All good! The problem arises when you have cares and concerns in your community (like George Floyd, police brutality and injustice), and nobody at your church can relate or have empathy. So, you start to feel isolated, lonely, and leave to return back to the black church after a decade or more. In frustration, you realize that you need to help reform the black church. You have come full circle.
I’ve gone to black church and got absolutely nothing but a headache from the yelling and screaming. My church is in a predominantly white town and we rarely get white visitors. RARE!! We’ll get Spanish before we get a white person. Honestly I think it’s all down to worship style and denominations
I've visited charismatic denominations and felt the same..nothing. I'm saved and wondered how does anyone accept Christ here because it's very noisy. Rarely is anyone opening and reading the Bible, rarely is anyone hearing that you can come as you are but you will not leave the way you entered once you've accepted Christ...all of that whooping and calisthenics makes no sense. I refuse to attend R&B "church".
@@user-ye5ku2ws6s Denominations exist because everyone interprets the Bible differently. I didn’t say there was a wrong or right one. Most denominations teach holiness anyways
Most white churches are ending services while black churches are just starting. It used to be a lot of black churches wear you out with 3 hour services, not including Sunday School. There are also the night services. It's gotten better, some black churches now start the service earlier and cut out long testimonies, choir singing 4 selections before the sermon etc.
@@marciapeak893 yes. My church service went from 4-5 hrs to 1.5 to 2hr max (depending on if it’s a special program) and I love it. We also start at 11 so it’s not too early
I had an amazing experience attending a predominantly Black church for ten years. I now attend a predominately Hispanic church with a sizable Black membership. We know that heaven is not going to be segregated, but the truth of the matter is that the churches are in America, unless you attend a multicultural church. We can thank slavery and Jim Crow laws for that. There’s nothing wrong with a Black person attending a predominantly White church, as long as he or she is treated well, their issues are being spoken of, and they have an opportunity to use their God-given gifts. Black and multicultural churches speak to the issues that affect Black people. Well, most of them anyway.
I was with you until the end lol. White churches are just as entertaining as black churches 😂😂😂 they have more lights and smoke machines than most tours
I don’t see an issue. What about the Hispanic and Asians who have their race in the church’s name? It’s not just white church vs black church. I prefer predominantly Black churches because that’s how I was raised, and I prefer the style of music. I’ve also been a member of white churches, and contributed musically there. I have also experienced racism openly at the white churches, so that’s why I treasure being part of a church where the congregation looks like me. Call me what you want; if the Lord led me to that church, I will go. And I worked for a predominantly white prosperity preacher’s organization and when I left work on any given day, after being a token, (they intentionally only hired white people) it was a breath of fresh air to go to my church, especially during February. To be around “my own people” after not seeing them during the week, was and still is refreshing.
I'm a member of a predominantly white church. Was recently ordained a Deacon, and I'm on the board of Trustees. So... his points are invalid. Also, all the black churches I attended/had membership had several theological issues or pastoral issues that were quite off the way a healthy church should be.
I served on active duty in a predominantly white city & attended a predominantly white church, while I was there. That was my best church experience ever. I was welcomed and never felt “out of place”. I left for my next duty station 5 years ago & am still in touch with the friends I made there.
There are foolishness in white church, but white people are not pointing them out and saying this why other groups are not going there. Why are we? Just asking. Seeking understanding why we are different.
We met Dr Baucham in 2019. Great preacher and man of God. We agree on this and many issues. I presently lead a predominately white adult Sunday School class in a Presbyterian Church PCA! Praise the Lord!
I was the only black member of an all white church in the rural south. We were so close that I could walk into their homes just knocking on the door saying it’s me Dexter!!! I go straight to the refrigerator without asking if I was sleepy I could find a couch and fallout for a few hours or overnight if I wanted. Best time of my life! I loved them and they loved the heck out of me. I will always love them because they were my family and I still consider them my family.
Good for you and so what you think that’s how it is everywhere no… and most likely you are a very docile non threatening black with no anger if what was done to your people so of course you can come in you’ve been broken
"...I married a woman who graduated from a Historically Black College or University..." why couldn't he simply say "I married a Black woman?" Hmmm has me scratching my head🤔🤔🤔
Because HBCUs are a matter of pride in the black community. HBCUs exist because white colleges originally didn't accept black folks. So there is a sense of history and pride there.
I was waiting for this to be released because I knew this is how you felt. It’s insane to use division and scripture in the same message. These issues are happening in all churches, NOT JUST BLACK CHURCHES!! Our experiences are going to be different and we, as the body, will go where we are fed, to which has been mentioned. We tend to forget what environment has been created that promotes division. Stop this weirdness and trying to make black people the problem. Sin is the problem. Racism is sin! Causing division is sin! Lying, cheating, fornicating, etc. is SIN! It’s happening everywhere in every city, state and country where the leader of that church is not following YHWH. Leave black people out of this and focus on those that are out of order, which there are plenty to choose from including in other races. Your pledging allegiance right in front of our faces. There are black people being led and fed by other black people and we’re fine. But give us a break please! Sheesh….
I started attending a non denominational church and Ill never go back to traditional baptist black church. In heaven all people will be represented how do we intend on being in heaven if we cant live together on earth? I was treated great and the staff truely loved everyone.
I live in Alabama. We have a popular mega church that is a predominately white that has a large number of black parishioners. They were so proud to attend this church and some bragged about it until it was revealed that the senior pastor was supporting white nationalists through social media.
A great word Corey! Thank you. Absolutely on point. Years ago, my sister and I bought a home in a suburb of Atlanta. One weekend we stopped at a yard sale at a local church. The people were so warm. Before leaving we were invited to come to services. When we did we found out that we were the only blacks there! It didn't matter because we were embraced. My sister and I were already saved so not long after, we placed membership there. We were there for over 10 years until we moved away. We made some lifelong friends and we were so blessed to have shared in the Lord with such wonderful people. It's not race that's important, but rather the body of Christ fellowshipping and thriving together in harmony.
There is a HUGE difference i have been to a mixed church with a black pastor and seminary school and theology ........he even talked about how they couldn't get there teenagers or grow kids to attend. But the real problem was him being out of touch and never talking about spiritual warfare
Let’s be honest… this has been happening for years. As a Pastor whose Church is NOT in the rough part of my city. We pray and seek for diversity and I am grateful for what we have seen but not ignorant enough to ignore the subconscious racial challenge.
Thank you for being aware, I will not say Jamal Bryant doesn't have a point. I believe there is still a lot of mistrust between the races within the body of Christ.
i CAN SAY DIVERSE CHURCHES THAT IS RAN BY A MAN PASTOR. PREACHES AND TEACHES MORE ON FAMILY DYNAMICS. THEY ENCOURAGE MARRIAGES & HELPS TO KEEP THE TOGETHER
I attend a predominantly white church and am black and have been in charge of finance since 2009, so that's not been my experience. I am sure that there are churches that don't follow this model but just wanted to make it known that there are some people who are color blind.
Thank you for bringing this topic for discussion. I have been in both a "black and white church" at different times. What is important is God's word being taught line by line in His church and saints are hungry for God's word and following Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord. The antics, prejudice, pride, entertainment, etc. are not important.
I CHOOSE to worship in mixed race church. I prefer it! People need to realize, there will only be LOVE in heaven. Here on earth we need to practice it! We are ALL created in God’s image, and all bleed RED blood! When we are One in Jesus, we are ONE together!
This is straight-up Holy Spirit truth, my Brother, in fact, it is something I believe is as Voddie says should be a real burden for every Minister first. But it should be a burden for every mature and maturing child of God as well. I simply believe it is one of the most evident signs that the majority of us churchgoers have very little perception of what the Church of God is in reality or even what it should be. Continue the good work my brother and as Voddie and you also shared, let us be concerned, and weep for these conditions on our knees and openly too. Eph.4:13 says; TILL WE ALL COME IN THE UNITY OFTHE FAITH, AND OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SON OF GOD, UNTO A PERFECT MAN, UNTO THE MEASURE OF THE STATURE OF THE FULNESS OF CHRIST. Blessings.
I've visited a two white churches before the pandemic, the first one was pretty solid. The second one wasn't such a good experience as I entered the sanctuary the usher referred to me as "you people" twice, once as she was escorting me to my seat and the second time was when she asked if "you people" would move closer to the front. Which was weird because i attended the church by myself. I had to ask her if she saw more than one person sitting next to me? I held out my hand to shake hers and told her my name; her response was.. "That's fine..." Okay girl, Deuce's ✌️& God bless.
I hear you but remember to pick your battles carefully and wisely. Allow others to make a mistake without trying to check them. I don’t get offended with you people saying. We are triggered by this because we have been taught not by God but the world. In other words meet people where they are.
Went to a predominantly black (Methodist) church in Detroit once on Easter Sunday. Spent the entire time scratching my head about why they were preaching about politics, rather than the Resurrection of Christ. Went to a predominantly white church in Paris (France) and felt right at home.
My former church was had a White pastor and a mixed congregation. He said that a lot of White churches practiced White Flight. Churches moved to suburbs to follow where their congregation was moving.
Let's just tell the truth here. Sunday morning has always been the most segregated day in America. Black folks that attend Churches that are predominantly white will have limited rolls. Thats just the truth.
I remember towards the end of last year I decided to walk to this church since it was literally behind my apartment. When I got to the church I spoked with a white lady and she said it was a church of God. She didn’t want any strangers in the lobby while the kids was practicing for choir so she told me to come back in a hour when Bible study starts. I definitely didn’t come back
I'm a black pastor and in our church we have White, Hispanic and Asian members and our church is predominantly black. But I must agree in my personal experience that I did and still do find myself being confronted with racism in white churches. I'm talking about Bible believing fundamental white churches. Its sad but I just believe that they need to simply have a real encounter with Jesus. One thing for sure this kind of foolishness has no busy being in the house of God. "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another." John 13:34,35
When you say you've experienced racism in Bible believing White Churches could you provide an example? And have you brought it to the attention of the Pastor of that Church? I'm asking because a church I attended DID have an openly racist person who was confronted by members, brought it to the attention of the elders and Pastors and he was swiftly rebuked and was asked to leave the Church ( he wasn't a member)Any kind of partiality being shown to anyone regardless of how they look is something condemned in Scripture. If we are seeing it or experiencing it we must bring it before the elders and Pastor. If that Pastor allows it than we leave and mark and avoid. Sadly even in Churches we will experience being sinned against. The most loving thing we do is confront it and lead that person to Christ and hopefully they will repent.
I don't mind sharing with you my experience of racism in Bible believing White Churches. First I think that it is important that I give you some history. I have been a Independent Fundamental Baptist preacher for 48 years. I have pastor a church in Alexandria Virginia of over 46 years. During my time in the ministry I have been blackballed because I refuse to teach or support that interracial marriages were unscriptural. I have had visiting White preachers interrogate my White members on why were they attending a black church. I have been told by a White pastor that he will only allow a certain amount of Blacks to join his church. When I've gone to preach at White churches many times I have been interrogated by White preacher who were also speakers at the meeting. I attended a conference just last year where a N-Word joke was made which the White preachers found entertaining as they were laughing. I had one White Bible believing preacher tell me for whatever reason that the worst thing that a White man could do is marriage a Black woman. I just looked at him as if he was crazy! I've personally experience a lot and seen a lot of racism in the church. I have a Black preacher friend who happen to have married a White woman and man oh man did he not go through it!!!! @@Psalm13924
Heaven is not segregated, 📖 After this I looked and saw a multitude too large to count, from every nation and tribe and people and tongue, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and holding palm branches in their hands.( Rev.7:9). Why should believers be segregated?
I go to a small church with a white pastor. There are several black families that have started coming out in the last year. This really excites me, we have such an amazing pastor that ALL nationalities feel comfortable with us. We truly are a close knit family at our church. We have lunch together every Sunday, and get to know each other well by doing so. Christ lives among us at Cornerstone Baptist church in Woodstock, Ontario, Canada!🇨🇦
Jamal Bryant never disappoints us with his ignorance. My church is diverse. Its predominately black but we definitely have white members. Our pastor is black.
You are very wise. Thank you. I listen to you a lot. If you look for offense and expect offense from everyone, then someone, some time, somewhere is going to offend you. It doesn't matter if you are male, female, white, black, young, old, someone is going to say something that offends you. I would have said, most of the time they didn't mean it as offensive but who knows today? As a Christian, I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt and I try not to take on offense. It keeps my heart safer and blood pressure down. I don't want to approach every person I see in a day as someone who is trying to offend me and hurt me. That's too complicated. Much simpler to expect everyone to be a good person who may accidentally or carelessly say something that I don't have to take offense at. I can just laugh it off and go on with my day. That woman and Jamal were talking about white people like we are some kind of animal and that could be offensiveto me and it was very racist. But I'm not going to let them ruin my day. If they want to live in unforgiveness, bitterness, pride and superiority, they will have to account for it before the Lord. But if I take the offense, get angry and live in unforgiveness, bitterness, pride and superiority, then their sin will have spread and I will be held responsible for my reaction to them. Up until 4 years ago, I thought we had come so far in race relations since the 1960's when I was a girl. I go to a restaurant and there are black people in the same restaurant. They are in our neighborhoods. They work beside us at work. They are our doctors and firemen and factory workers. They get loans and drive cars like the rest of us. They can get luxury items if they have the money to pay for them. We cross date and intermarry. We attended church together. But I guess things weren't as good as I thought they were. Little did I know the simmering hatred for whites that must have been beneath the surface. The hate, unforgiveness, bitterness and desire for revenge has shocked me to the core. I guess, in a sinful world, I shouldn't have been as shocked at how it's all come out like a spewing volcano. But I was. I didn't realize people were harboring that kind of sin and were just looking for ways to spew it. We had a music minister in our church who is black and his wife bought into all that stuff. She became very confrontive and combative, taking offense no matter what anyone of us said to her. "Hey, how are you today? We've been missing you." "You white people don't care for us. Stop trying so hard to be my friend." So, she finally talked her husband right out of the church. It was so sad because she could have taken the opportunity to teach us how races get along as brothers and sisters in Christ instead of leaving a bad taste in everybody's mouth. We have a black pastor in our neighborhood but we're scared to hardly speak to him for wondering if we are offensive to him. When we've talked to him and had him over to the house, he was nice as could be, but what's going through his mind in the background? I didn't think anything until all this stuff and now I realize I could say, "The grass is green" and it would offend someone without me knowing it.
I am black and I have attended a white Church and I see no difference from a black Church. As long as God and Jesus is their it does not matter.
Amen
You must be blind
The only difference I really noticed is the white churches will not admit that black people, are the people of the Bible.
I am not blessed with lots of melanin, yet go to a church where I am loved by all and where there are a lot of members with various shades of skin color. Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. God is no respecter of persons, and died for the sins of the whole world.
YOU ARE BRAINWASHED!!! This god thang is out of control. How many times did the screacha or congregation members invited you over for dinner? You ain't Black; you're just covered with Black skin, but wite on the inside! WAKE UP
Wait! What? I am black and I attend a white biblical church that believes in Sound Doctrine only!
And that's all that matters.
Same. I have looked for biblical sound churches in area and have not found a black church that is. Not saying that all white churches our but those who are sound are few and far between nowadays.
I am an American, and I attended an Asian Church that, like Smart Christian Life, taught sound Doctrine. To my surprise, I was made to feel like a member of their Church family. As Christians, we are all Brothers & Sister in Christ 👃🙏
Me too and it's bible base.
We can be too flashy causing the black church to be more of a fashing show in most cases.
Wow… race… there is neither Jew nor Greek in Christ. We as believers should never be divided based on race. Praying for these 2 people. We shouldn’t be dividing people of God.
Amen!
AMERICAN HISTORY IS REAL!!!
The original Slave Bible was published by Law and Gilbert publishing house in London in 1807, and the copy belonging to Fisk University was published the following year. It was published on behalf of the Society for the Conversion of Negro Slaves to educate enslaved Africans and preserve the system of slavery.
Why Bibles Given to Slaves Omitted Most of the Old Testament
The so-called “Slave Bible” told of Joseph’s enslavement but left out the parts where Moses led the Israelites to freedom.
That's plantation christianity. The verse is metaphorical. Do you literally believe there is neither man nor woman either? Maybe in the catholic church.😅
Amen!
Race is not the issue.....Ethnic groups is.......
And I go to a predominantly Black Church, where we have a few White people in it, and I've been to visit a predominantly White Church with a few Black people in it, it's time we take segregation out of the church and be one body of Christ like the Bible calls us to be and make sure we're being a BIBLICAL church, NOT a RACIAL church.
Especially since whites and blacks, both speak ENGLISH ONLY
They have Korean churches
But they speak korean
It has been said that the most segregated 4 hours during any week in America...
...is from 9:00 until 1:00 on Sundays!
What you are advocating sounds good but it will never happen until Christians on both sides are willing to HONESTLY deal with the past. Our introduction to Christianity is so horrible and no one wants to deal with it so these things will continue to exist. Has anyone ever took a look at a map of the Slave States and compared that map to a map of the states that make up the Bible Belt? One has to ask why are the states where the bible is most prominent the same states in which owning Africans is legal? Black Christians are ashamed of this history and will do anything to avoid to maintain their comfort. And White Christians feel extremely guilty and dealing with this takes them out of their comfort zone.. Its a Cold Game
Amen, I agree. Racism is of the devil. One God ,one heaven for all races
We were the white family at the mostly black church it wasn't that weird for me my school was half black half white most of my friends were black i grew up and then moved to an all white area and then that felt weird lol
Black Church? White Church? Whatever happened to Christ Church?
Don’t exist in America
😅point made!
Well, during slavery times, Black people were not allowed to worship with white people, so ot kind of stuck. Also, black churches have been breeding grounds for Black revolution and protected our personhood while white churches fought against integration.
I think and hope that soon Black people as a whole will re-exam our relationship with religion altogether. The ties to our subjugation are unavoidable and constantly glossed over.
That part!!!
Jamal needs to get saved period
Period!!!
That part!!💯
Yes
PERIOD!
I came out of over 30 years of Islam into a “black” church. I learned nothing of significance-just some BAD theology. In fact, one of the last times I went to that black church, Jamal Bryant guest peached (he is a friend of that pastor). He suckered me (at the time I was a laid-off, poor, single Black mother) into giving my last dime for the blessing of being able to pay my bills that week. Didn’t happen. I fell away.
Over a decade later, I am flourishing in my faith AT A “WHITE” CHURCH. Because of God, not man. I am back with a vengeance, for God says to not neglect fellowship. Most Reformed/Calvinistic churches are populated by White brothers and sisters. So what? I am learning and growing and I love what God is doing in my life.
@Cavalier-km2beshe said she is growing, which we all are.
I really hope we are true followers of Christ on this chat 🙏🙏 pray for me because I’m praying for you.
When we all get to heaven, we will be the redeemed family of God worshipping and praising God for eternity! WE WILL NOT BE SEPARATED BY "RACE" BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO SUCH THING IN HEAVEN!!
@Cavalier-km2bewow, lady gives her testimony and all you got to say is well you still ain't good enough. Well that's why we need a savior you as well.
I'm not a preacher, but your story is the warning I have been putting off for years. It has nothing to do with race, a white preacher could have told you the same. It's the danger of pushing people away from Christ , while they fill their pockets with money. Sadly single mothers , people that are ill or have ill children are their targets. I'm happy that you found your way back, and that these men, black or white, don't represent Jesus. God bless.
I go to a predominantly white church and I’m a participant of everything and I get nothing but the gospel and they are strong on missions.
They are VERY STRONG on missions
Even in African Nations
You rarely see a traditional black church..giving to missions in these nations
These pastors also
Practice tithing to them
@@kathleenking47 Exactly! Show me tithing for the church (doesn’t exist)and not only that I came from the Pentecost church since I was a little boy.
Maybe that should be taken with a grain of salt though because the "white-savior complex" is a real thing, and certain people are very much motivated by that. One thing to gauge is if they spend THOUSANDS of dollars to do overseas missions to areas where the people are poor and darker-skinned, but won't do ANYTHING for those same kinds of people in the urban areas in their own city. They'll only go to places where they are the celebrity because of what they look like and what they bring with them, and even the poor people overseas now know how to "play the game" to get what they want from the visiting mission-trippers.
Many black churches tend to not do missions because their pastor's new suit is the mission; the pastor's wife's new car is the mission; the new building is the (never accomplished) mission, etc.
Missions serve to oppress people.
I KNOW HE DIDN"T JUST SAY THAT!!!! I GUESS HE THINKS THE BODY OF CHRIST HAS A WHITE SECTION AND A BLACK SECTION. THERE IS NO DIVISION IN THE BODY OF CHRIST! I don't even want to go and hear a lot of shouting. I need to learn and I can take that and do my own shouting.
Amen!!!
Since he’s a heretic he’s not in the Body of Christ. All of this conjecture on his part. Since he has never attended a predominantly white church he has no idea whether or not they allow blacks on the finance team.
Jamal Bryant is not only a wolf, he’s a racist wolf
América needs to have a discusión about the blatant Racism of BP
@@jukejoint523jordan6 What does that mean?
He is not a racist.
@@Hakeem597 What you mean, what I mean? What did I just say???
@@jukejoint523jordan6 I'm just trying to understand your statement, no need to be combative...what are you considering "blatant" racism? and what does America discussing this have to do with the body of the church?
Social justice and the Gospel have nothing to do with one another...
I was saved at a predominantly white church. I would’ve stayed except I moved out of the area. If people have the love of Christ and someone experiences racism, then lovingly confronting that person about their racism is in order.
I am white and I was raised in a black church.I thank God that my mom and step father took me to church at all,it just happened to be Bethlehem Baptist Church under the late Pastor Jones,who was a holy Ghost filled, fire and brimstone preacher, sadly the church that I was raised in is no longer that way.I am blessed that the seed was planted.ToGodBeTheGlory!!!!
Yeah that's cool for you but us Black Folks in the states are English speaking Christians because our slave master was an English speaking Christian. Yall chose to go to a black church. We were forced into a religion of our former slave masters. That history will always cause problems
@@oldschool5 That wasn't Christianity. I heard about the Bible made for slaves and God wouldn't ever condone that! Many will say Lord, Lord and many professing christians will be told the same, that He never knew them, depart from Me you workers of lawlessness!!! 😔 It's a fearful thing for a sinner to fall into the hands of the Holy God!!!
@@PandySearl No. Every slave didnt have a slave bible. That existed in a certain place for a certain time. The fact is that we were introduced to this religion by slave masters. That's a fact. And most Black Christians hate to admit that. We never knew about Jesus Noah Bible God Moses or Abraham. We learned about these characters from our slave master. That's a fact.
If you ever really want to know who really dogged out your people all you have to do is just look at the holidays you celebrate, the language you speak and the god that you pray to. Ofern times that will tell you who destroyed your ancestors
Me too we were the one white family at our church until one single white guy joined lol
@@oldschool5...the oldest Bible is found in Ethiopia 🤔
I am a black person in a predominately white church and I am involved in the finance and highest levels of leadership in my church. I’ve never felt more loved and cared for than at my current church.
Amen!
Love how the women was like NEVER NEVERRRRR and was proven wrong instantly 😅
Good for you. It is unfortunate not everyone has the same experience.
@@Cogicboy56 Exactly we have different experiences, which is why it’s not good to make blanket statements either way.
I'm in a predominantly white church as well. That seems to be where my ministry assignments are right now. I work in leadership and with the youth department as well. Also, I'm on the church board and I don't seem to focus on whether we're white or black but whether or not we're ministering the gospel of truth from the scriptures.
It is never acceptable to treat people poorly, especially when you claim to be a Christian. I’ve seen coldness and rudeness at Black churches, but there are a lot of stuck up, stank faced people at too many churches. As a result, it can be challenging finding a church home that’s a good fit. Ultimately, I lean toward any church that’s actually Bible based. The people at those churches tend to be kinder too so I don’t care what color they are, and I surely don’t care what any hateful person thinks about it.
I am looking for a church home.
Pray to the Lord regularly
Why does colour matter ? Doctrine is what matters , Jamal teaches another Jesus and scripture so why would I attend his church
Cuz BP are the most racist in America
Because it does matter ask the whites who created laws.
True!
It doesn’t matter to God’s kingdom or those who seek it.
Sometimes our words reveal what we’re truly seeking and it’s not what we ourselves realize.
Amen!
Tbh, i careless about race. I go to church to hear the Word of God. Not worry about who all is attending church and who they are.
Amen
As a black pastor I had white and Hispanic members along with black members as well
Great
How anyone takes what this wolf says seriously is beyond me SMH
My pastor is white, and so are most of the members. The area is not a "good" area. I go there because they preach the gospel and are sound in doctrine. They teach, lead, and stand on the word of GOD. That's why i go there, not for any other reason.
Im a black pastor and most people in our church are white or Mexican.
What is the name of your church? I am curious because I rarely see this as the case, but would like to know where these churches exist.
@@SamuelJohnsonROCKWOI it is Lighthouse Baptist Church in Oakdale Ca
I attend a wonderfully diverse church. We sing songs in English, Spanish and Korean. Our lead pastor is black and came from a historic black church and I love it there. Everyone is welcoming and kind and the word of God is preached truthfully and fearlessly. I refuse to go to a black church for the foolishness exhibited in the video. I'm sure not all black churches are like that but I'm not taking any chances.
I feel more connected to the people in my church than most that I encounter on a daily basis because of our shared love of Jesus, which transcends race.
Wow that is diverse lol are you from Queens
Beautiful, as it ought to be 🙏
Loved this
What Jamal said about blacks not being in the finance department of predominantly white church is not true. The church I attend does have a black associate pastor on the finance team.
That’s like one out of all them
I’m Hispanic and attended mostly predominantly white churches and was accepted! I attended and was a minister AND served on the trustee board at a black church for 9 years (COGIC) was accepted and warmly received as family! Man I just don’t know……
It shouldn’t matter as long as it is a Christ led church but the hurts people experience in life will draw you to a church where you are comfortable because people look like you. I don’t begrudge anyone going to a church that is sound in the Word and lifts up Christ. But I refuse to condemn church service that is jubilant. Some things about the church when looked at closer are cultural and not necessarily racial.
COGIC ✊🏽
COGIC…..Yes indeed
I left COGIC they are too messy and I haven't looked back
@@RaiderRSupastar everyone’s experience is different but remember, “there is no perfect church.”
This one's cut and dry brother. It's called racism..
Thank you for covering this subject. My son is mixed and it was hard to find a church when he was young. The white church didnt want him there and the black church didnt want me there. Church seems like the last place to have this foolishness
I am sorry that you and your son went through this situation. I hope that you both have found a biblically sound church now.
I have attended mostly white churches but since Trump I've seen alot of unexpected racism.
It was already there you just opened your eyes a little I’m from the South but what Jamal said is the truth
True. I left the church I loved because pastor was telling people to vote for Trump instead of just telling them to vote.
My question is…. Who is ordaining these people to be pastors
Themselves 😢😢😢
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The Devil. All these false churches are of the devil except the one Jesus created and he called 12 ordained Apostles. Jesus church must have a Prophet and 12 Apostles that works in unity and that true church is restored upon the church and no foolishness or worldly trends are apart of it. These Bishops are not paid a salary to preach.
Congregations can be predominant with one group or another depending the demographic. You go to the Caribbean, mostly black people, go to Africa, mostly black people, go to North America mostly white people. We are all one. Only Satan wants us separated.
@@barbeegirl7196And the clueless congregation! Never forget- this was once Eddie Long’s church. He went to his grave denying that he was a gay pedophile. God knows the truth. Bottom line, this church’s history is to back the pastor- no matter what.
That part!
Voddie Baucham and Paul Washer: the Charles Spurgeons of our eras
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY!!! C.S. SPURGEON has His our Class!!!
It really doesn't take courage to be black and to criticize black churches.
Why are we the only ones doing this? You don't see yt people on TH-cam talking about "my church is too political or racial." Even though, they are.
My son and I experienced racism in my last church. That showed me that it wasn’t actually a church led by Christ. I do not assume every single church with diversity will be the same. There were other little red flags before the event. I have learned and will continue to search for a Biblical church, regardless of what color the people are.
I attend a predominantly white church and I get along well with them all. They have all been really wonderful people to me and I to them. And it’s Not fake.
Real people of God don’t worry about race. We realize that we are all brothers and sisters in Christ.
I've attended both a black and white church for equally 10 years. My best experiences and learning of true salvation was in the white church.
And, yes, there are blacks working finances in the white church. 😏
"Why can't we just be godly!!??" Yes Cory! I dont want to hear anything political at church. I don’t want to see politicians at church either.
Jamal up there saying anything 😂
That's where I came to Christ in a church that had a white Pastor. The black churches i have attended throughout my life never filled me. I went there the feeling empty and left empty. The Pastor at the white church went through the scriptures. He broke it down which made it more understanding. I would go home and pick up where he left off. Maybe if the black pastors would just say the scriptures and stop trying to cough up a lung to the playing of music. Always looking for a shout/praise break moment. Just give people the word
I’m just glad that you were led to Jesus 🎉 praise God
Same experience…
Its not the race but more so where God and Jesus is. I have been to several black churches where I have been fed.
All of that huffing and puffing and screaming is not fulfilling me.
Talking negatively about a black pastor with a black congregation is easy for black people to do. Remember the old saying back in the day "the white man's ice is colder"
Wish we would just love one another as God wants!!! 🙏🏻❤🙏🏻
The world has a lot of strife. We're not denying the historical struggles among the ethnicities. God didn't. It's all through scripture with the children of Israel. In-fighting among the tribes, fighting among the descendants of Ishmael, fighting among those in the commonwealth of Israel and those outside. (Barbarians, Greeks, etc.) Babel... look at the division there. When we fellowship in heaven, we'll be rubbing elbows with people of all ethnicities (Revelation 7:9). In fact, some of those same people who hated us in this life who have been converted might be right next to us. (Revelation 7:9). The point is to overcome. That's what the child of God does. They overcome. They overcome evil with good. They overcome sectarianism. They overcome ignorance. The overcome society's need of classism. The evil is there, but we overcome (first wrestling with our own conscience).
I go to a white church because they aren’t political and the one I go to actually teaches the gospel line by line. I tried to find a black church, but the SEVEN I went to were political, too lax in dress, have female pastors, lack of traditional songs, and the “sermons” were really just pep talks. I’m not here to here to listen to men talk and give their opinions. I’m here to LEARN. If someone knows of a black church that is not like the aforementioned black churches I’ve visited in CHICAGO, let me know.
Tell it!!!!!
Female pastors are off
Paul wrote 1 Timothy 2:12, for a reason
So who are all the churches and pastors supporting trump
@@jameswilliams5921 you mean the false churches?
Logos Baptist Assembly Chicago Dr Donald Parson
Fellowship Baptist Church Chicago Dr Reginald Sharpe
Antioch Baptist Church Englewood at 63rd Dr Gerald Dews
Mount Calvary Baptist Church Chicago W 111 St Dr Damian Epps
The more I hear Jamal Bryant talk the more it becomes clearer that the HOLY SPIRIT is absence in his life! It’s sad to watch he’s fired from ministry and doesn’t even know it.
I hollered when Corey said, “nobody wants to see you get tackled.” Man, you’re funny and don’t even try to be. 😂😂
There was nothing wrong with the brother "Praising The Lord In a Dance" @12:39 Don't call it Foolishness,David danced until his clothes fell off! If King David were in this time, you would have called him foolish.!!
We are one and need to stand in unity.
So he said he “never” sees it but then he said it does happen but they can’t be on the finance team. He can’t even get his lies straight.
I'm "white" and I honestly think they don't want you to go to other churches because they don't want you to think of yourself as Christians but black people. There are political churches and pentecostal churches but the people who go to those they know after a couple times, that aint it either.
This is crazy I’m going wherever they preach the Bible! Smh very disappointing
Good luck with that. If it’s on Sundays, they are wrong from the start!
The best churches have people of all colors, from all walks of life.
Nah
People should attend wherever the HolySpirit is
As an american with filipino ethnicity, we Christians should not be segregated for the color of our skin, but come together and worship Christ our Savior
Absolutely sir. There is no segregation in Heaven. Jamal Bryant loves money and has nothing good to say.
I enjoy this presentation. However, I never understood Voddie's opinion that he had a duty to join a predominantly white church as an avenue of racial reconciliation. If he honored God's command, great! Nonetheless, I don't know if his family was going to change the bigger issue of racial divisions.
I went to a Baptist church a four years ago and they have the nerve to start out with the politics and if someone in the house wont vote kick them out i left asap and never looked back one thing that grinds my gears is beating forced fed with politics
My dad was a pastor and i have family and church friends who treat me that way and others who wont vote
This conversation is far more nuanced. Damon Redding is on point! Many black parishioners make the faith cycle which we see over and over again. They grow up in the black church full of Jesus and the loud gospel music, but you don’t feel you are getting enough teaching. You leave for the white church and get reformed theology and the riverdance music. You worship with many people who don’t look like you which can be a great thing! You get involved in ministry and serve. All good! The problem arises when you have cares and concerns in your community (like George Floyd, police brutality and injustice), and nobody at your church can relate or have empathy. So, you start to feel isolated, lonely, and leave to return back to the black church after a decade or more. In frustration, you realize that you need to help reform the black church. You have come full circle.
@DaSmoov54 👍🏾
I’ve gone to black church and got absolutely nothing but a headache from the yelling and screaming. My church is in a predominantly white town and we rarely get white visitors. RARE!! We’ll get Spanish before we get a white person. Honestly I think it’s all down to worship style and denominations
I've visited charismatic denominations and felt the same..nothing. I'm saved and wondered how does anyone accept Christ here because it's very noisy. Rarely is anyone opening and reading the Bible, rarely is anyone hearing that you can come as you are but you will not leave the way you entered once you've accepted Christ...all of that whooping and calisthenics makes no sense. I refuse to attend R&B "church".
There's No such thing as denominations, it's either Holiness or Hell.
@@user-ye5ku2ws6s Denominations exist because everyone interprets the Bible differently. I didn’t say there was a wrong or right one. Most denominations teach holiness anyways
Most white churches are ending services while black churches are just starting. It used to be a lot of black churches wear you out with 3 hour services, not including Sunday School. There are also the night services. It's gotten better, some black churches now start the service earlier and cut out long testimonies, choir singing 4 selections before the sermon etc.
@@marciapeak893 yes. My church service went from 4-5 hrs to 1.5 to 2hr max (depending on if it’s a special program) and I love it. We also start at 11 so it’s not too early
I had an amazing experience attending a predominantly Black church for ten years. I now attend a predominately Hispanic church with a sizable Black membership.
We know that heaven is not going to be segregated, but the truth of the matter is that the churches are in America, unless you attend a multicultural church. We can thank slavery and Jim Crow laws for that.
There’s nothing wrong with a Black person attending a predominantly White church, as long as he or she is treated well, their issues are being spoken of, and they have an opportunity to use their God-given gifts. Black and multicultural churches speak to the issues that affect Black people. Well, most of them anyway.
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I was with you until the end lol. White churches are just as entertaining as black churches 😂😂😂 they have more lights and smoke machines than most tours
I don’t see an issue. What about the Hispanic and Asians who have their race in the church’s name? It’s not just white church vs black church.
I prefer predominantly Black churches because that’s how I was raised, and I prefer the style of music. I’ve also been a member of white churches, and contributed musically there.
I have also experienced racism openly at the white churches, so that’s why I treasure being part of a church where the congregation looks like me. Call me what you want; if the Lord led me to that church, I will go.
And I worked for a predominantly white prosperity preacher’s organization and when I left work on any given day, after being a token, (they intentionally only hired white people) it was a breath of fresh air to go to my church, especially during February. To be around “my own people” after not seeing them during the week, was and still is refreshing.
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I can't fault you for that
Amen. ✊🏽
I love to hear you call people out for being "stupid." 😂🎉❤
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Thank you for this video! You've put into words exactly what I feel about this issue.
I'm a member of a predominantly white church. Was recently ordained a Deacon, and I'm on the board of Trustees. So... his points are invalid.
Also, all the black churches I attended/had membership had several theological issues or pastoral issues that were quite off the way a healthy church should be.
I served on active duty in a predominantly white city & attended a predominantly white church, while I was there. That was my best church experience ever. I was welcomed and never felt “out of place”. I left for my next duty station 5 years ago & am still in touch with the friends I made there.
They are not just friends. They are your sisters in Christ Jesus
There are foolishness in white church, but white people are not pointing them out and saying this why other groups are not going there. Why are we? Just asking. Seeking understanding why we are different.
I agree
We met Dr Baucham in 2019. Great preacher and man of God. We agree on this and many issues. I presently lead a predominately white adult Sunday School class in a Presbyterian Church PCA! Praise the Lord!
I was the only black member of an all white church in the rural south. We were so close that I could walk into their homes just knocking on the door saying it’s me Dexter!!!
I go straight to the refrigerator without asking if I was sleepy I could find a couch and fallout for a few hours or overnight if I wanted. Best time of my life! I loved them and they loved the heck out of me. I will always love them because they were my family and I still consider them my family.
Good for you and so what you think that’s how it is everywhere no… and most likely you are a very docile non threatening black with no anger if what was done to your people so of course you can come in you’ve been broken
"...I married a woman who graduated from a Historically Black College or University..." why couldn't he simply say "I married a Black woman?" Hmmm has me scratching my head🤔🤔🤔
Because HBCUs are a matter of pride in the black community. HBCUs exist because white colleges originally didn't accept black folks. So there is a sense of history and pride there.
I was waiting for this to be released because I knew this is how you felt. It’s insane to use division and scripture in the same message. These issues are happening in all churches, NOT JUST BLACK CHURCHES!! Our experiences are going to be different and we, as the body, will go where we are fed, to which has been mentioned. We tend to forget what environment has been created that promotes division. Stop this weirdness and trying to make black people the problem. Sin is the problem. Racism is sin! Causing division is sin! Lying, cheating, fornicating, etc. is SIN! It’s happening everywhere in every city, state and country where the leader of that church is not following YHWH. Leave black people out of this and focus on those that are out of order, which there are plenty to choose from including in other races. Your pledging allegiance right in front of our faces. There are black people being led and fed by other black people and we’re fine. But give us a break please! Sheesh….
I started attending a non denominational church and Ill never go back to traditional baptist black church. In heaven all people will be represented how do we intend on being in heaven if we cant live together on earth? I was treated great and the staff truely loved everyone.
I live in Alabama. We have a popular mega church that is a predominately white that has a large number of black parishioners. They were so proud to attend this church and some bragged about it until it was revealed that the senior pastor was supporting white nationalists through social media.
White supremacy at it's finest.
I feel all churches should integrate as much as they can. God has a colorful family.
The House of God is the House of God! No matters what color of people in there.
A great word Corey! Thank you. Absolutely on point. Years ago, my sister and I bought a home in a suburb of Atlanta. One weekend we stopped at a yard sale at a local church. The people were so warm. Before leaving we were invited to come to services. When we did we found out that we were the only blacks there! It didn't matter because we were embraced. My sister and I were already saved so not long after, we placed membership there. We were there for over 10 years until we moved away. We made some lifelong friends and we were so blessed to have shared in the Lord with such wonderful people. It's not race that's important, but rather the body of Christ fellowshipping and thriving together in harmony.
As for me, I don’t like any church that talks about or preaches about politics. I hate politics.
You have to remember, you're only hearing her side. Remember, there's her side. There's their side, and there's God side. Who's side you prefer?
There is a HUGE difference i have been to a mixed church with a black pastor and seminary school and theology ........he even talked about how they couldn't get there teenagers or grow kids to attend. But the real problem was him being out of touch and never talking about spiritual warfare
Let’s be honest… this has been happening for years. As a Pastor whose Church is NOT in the rough part of my city. We pray and seek for diversity and I am grateful for what we have seen but not ignorant enough to ignore the subconscious racial challenge.
Thank you for being aware, I will not say Jamal Bryant doesn't have a point. I believe there is still a lot of mistrust between the races within the body of Christ.
Satan is definitely busy.
i CAN SAY DIVERSE CHURCHES THAT IS RAN BY A MAN PASTOR. PREACHES AND TEACHES MORE ON FAMILY DYNAMICS. THEY ENCOURAGE MARRIAGES & HELPS TO KEEP THE TOGETHER
He is going to church for the wrong reason.
I attend a predominantly white church and am black and have been in charge of finance since 2009, so that's not been my experience.
I am sure that there are churches that don't follow this model but just wanted to make it known that there are some people who are color blind.
Thank you for the shout out to Be Heard. It’s the first time to hear him and he sounds good.
Thank you for bringing this topic for discussion. I have been in both a "black and white church" at different times. What is important is God's word being taught line by line in His church and saints are hungry for God's word and following Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord. The antics, prejudice, pride, entertainment, etc. are not important.
I went to predominant white and every SUNDAY THEY HAD TO SHOW On the big screen how they feed Africans all the time
Cringe isn't it 😂
As if know poor white folks that need help
White supremacy at it's finest.
I CHOOSE to worship in mixed race church. I prefer it! People need to realize, there will only be LOVE in heaven. Here on earth we need to practice it! We are ALL created in God’s image, and all bleed RED blood! When we are One in Jesus, we are ONE together!
This is straight-up Holy Spirit truth, my Brother, in fact, it is something I believe is as Voddie says should be a real burden for every Minister first. But it should be a burden for every mature and maturing child of God as well. I simply believe it is one of the most evident signs that the majority of us churchgoers have very little perception of what the Church of God is in reality or even what it should be.
Continue the good work my brother and as Voddie and you also shared, let us be concerned, and weep for these conditions on our knees and openly too. Eph.4:13 says; TILL WE ALL COME IN THE UNITY OFTHE FAITH, AND OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SON OF GOD, UNTO A PERFECT MAN, UNTO THE MEASURE OF THE STATURE OF THE FULNESS OF CHRIST. Blessings.
I've visited a two white churches before the pandemic, the first one was pretty solid. The second one wasn't such a good experience as I entered the sanctuary the usher referred to me as "you people" twice, once as she was escorting me to my seat and the second time was when she asked if "you people" would move closer to the front. Which was weird because i attended the church by myself. I had to ask her if she saw more than one person sitting next to me? I held out my hand to shake hers and told her my name; her response was.. "That's fine..." Okay girl, Deuce's ✌️& God bless.
I hear you but remember to pick your battles carefully and wisely. Allow others to make a mistake without trying to check them. I don’t get offended with you people saying. We are triggered by this because we have been taught not by God but the world. In other words meet people where they are.
White supremacy at work.
Sunday morning is the most segregated time in America. 😪😔
And who started it?
Went to a predominantly black (Methodist) church in Detroit once on Easter Sunday. Spent the entire time scratching my head about why they were preaching about politics, rather than the Resurrection of Christ. Went to a predominantly white church in Paris (France) and felt right at home.
Racism and discrimination can be at any work place and white churches are not exempt. You Must Always be where the spirit of God leads you
Thank you for this one bro!
Why do we waste time on these wolves in sheep clothing lord have mercy on them false teachings
My former church was had a White pastor and a mixed congregation. He said that a lot of White churches practiced White Flight. Churches moved to suburbs to follow where their congregation was moving.
Let's just tell the truth here. Sunday morning has always been the most segregated day in America. Black folks that attend Churches that are predominantly white will have limited rolls. Thats just the truth.
I remember towards the end of last year I decided to walk to this church since it was literally behind my apartment. When I got to the church I spoked with a white lady and she said it was a church of God. She didn’t want any strangers in the lobby while the kids was practicing for choir so she told me to come back in a hour when Bible study starts. I definitely didn’t come back
I'm a black pastor and in our church we have White, Hispanic and Asian members and our church is predominantly black. But I must agree in my personal experience that I did and still do find myself being confronted with racism in white churches. I'm talking about Bible believing fundamental white churches. Its sad but I just believe that they need to simply have a real encounter with Jesus. One thing for sure this kind of foolishness has no busy being in the house of God. "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another." John 13:34,35
When you say you've experienced racism in Bible believing White Churches could you provide an example? And have you brought it to the attention of the Pastor of that Church?
I'm asking because a church I attended DID have an openly racist person who was confronted by members, brought it to the attention of the elders and Pastors and he was swiftly rebuked and was asked to leave the Church ( he wasn't a member)Any kind of partiality being shown to anyone regardless of how they look is something condemned in Scripture. If we are seeing it or experiencing it we must bring it before the elders and Pastor. If that Pastor allows it than we leave and mark and avoid.
Sadly even in Churches we will experience being sinned against. The most loving thing we do is confront it and lead that person to Christ and hopefully they will repent.
I don't mind sharing with you my experience of racism in Bible believing White Churches. First I think that it is important that I give you some history. I have been a Independent Fundamental Baptist preacher for 48 years. I have pastor a church in Alexandria Virginia of over 46 years. During my time in the ministry I have been blackballed because I refuse to teach or support that interracial marriages were unscriptural. I have had visiting White preachers interrogate my White members on why were they attending a black church. I have been told by a White pastor that he will only allow a certain amount of Blacks to join his church. When I've gone to preach at White churches many times I have been interrogated by White preacher who were also speakers at the meeting. I attended a conference just last year where a N-Word joke was made which the White preachers found entertaining as they were laughing. I had one White Bible believing preacher tell me for whatever reason that the worst thing that a White man could do is marriage a Black woman. I just looked at him as if he was crazy! I've personally experience a lot and seen a lot of racism in the church. I have a Black preacher friend who happen to have married a White woman and man oh man did he not go through it!!!! @@Psalm13924
@Friendly5333 this is more of the norm in yt churches than they care to admit. White Supremacy at it's finest.
Heaven is not segregated,
📖 After this I looked and saw a multitude too large to count, from every nation and tribe and people and tongue, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and holding palm branches in their hands.( Rev.7:9).
Why should believers be segregated?
I go to a small church with a white pastor. There are several black families that have started coming out in the last year. This really excites me, we have such an amazing pastor that ALL nationalities feel comfortable with us. We truly are a close knit family at our church. We have lunch together every Sunday, and get to know each other well by doing so. Christ lives among us at Cornerstone Baptist church in Woodstock, Ontario, Canada!🇨🇦
Hey bro this is calvin. I met you through the Lankford’s.
Jamal Bryant never disappoints us with his ignorance. My church is diverse. Its predominately black but we definitely have white members. Our pastor is black.
You are very wise. Thank you. I listen to you a lot. If you look for offense and expect offense from everyone, then someone, some time, somewhere is going to offend you. It doesn't matter if you are male, female, white, black, young, old, someone is going to say something that offends you. I would have said, most of the time they didn't mean it as offensive but who knows today? As a Christian, I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt and I try not to take on offense. It keeps my heart safer and blood pressure down. I don't want to approach every person I see in a day as someone who is trying to offend me and hurt me. That's too complicated. Much simpler to expect everyone to be a good person who may accidentally or carelessly say something that I don't have to take offense at. I can just laugh it off and go on with my day. That woman and Jamal were talking about white people like we are some kind of animal and that could be offensiveto me and it was very racist. But I'm not going to let them ruin my day. If they want to live in unforgiveness, bitterness, pride and superiority, they will have to account for it before the Lord. But if I take the offense, get angry and live in unforgiveness, bitterness, pride and superiority, then their sin will have spread and I will be held responsible for my reaction to them. Up until 4 years ago, I thought we had come so far in race relations since the 1960's when I was a girl. I go to a restaurant and there are black people in the same restaurant. They are in our neighborhoods. They work beside us at work. They are our doctors and firemen and factory workers. They get loans and drive cars like the rest of us. They can get luxury items if they have the money to pay for them. We cross date and intermarry. We attended church together. But I guess things weren't as good as I thought they were. Little did I know the simmering hatred for whites that must have been beneath the surface. The hate, unforgiveness, bitterness and desire for revenge has shocked me to the core. I guess, in a sinful world, I shouldn't have been as shocked at how it's all come out like a spewing volcano. But I was. I didn't realize people were harboring that kind of sin and were just looking for ways to spew it. We had a music minister in our church who is black and his wife bought into all that stuff. She became very confrontive and combative, taking offense no matter what anyone of us said to her. "Hey, how are you today? We've been missing you." "You white people don't care for us. Stop trying so hard to be my friend." So, she finally talked her husband right out of the church. It was so sad because she could have taken the opportunity to teach us how races get along as brothers and sisters in Christ instead of leaving a bad taste in everybody's mouth. We have a black pastor in our neighborhood but we're scared to hardly speak to him for wondering if we are offensive to him. When we've talked to him and had him over to the house, he was nice as could be, but what's going through his mind in the background? I didn't think anything until all this stuff and now I realize I could say, "The grass is green" and it would offend someone without me knowing it.
This is good, I really enjoyed it 😊
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