This must share to Japanese people who wishing to play groove with backbeats. But they got too complicated and having a problem with. Please let me translate to them. And thank you so much for sharing 🙏🏼
Strangely - clap on the 1 and 3, and it sounds more regimented. Clap on the 2 & 4, and it sounds more free, and you *invite* a little jazz chaos. Which is what we want :)
I’m sorry but this is actually just not true. Snare has been played on the 2 and 4 for forever and the only people I’ve seen clap on 1 and 3 are people who just don’t do music
I don't think white americans would clap on 1 and 3. I'm not an American myself, but I'd say that music based on African-American rhythm patterns has become so widespread that unless you play classical, you will automatically learn to clap on 2 and 4. In Europe, the situation is quite different, as folk music of many nations uses the 1 and 3 pattern.
This is a different concept. Here we are talking about grooving WITH music. “On the one” and “clapping on the one and two are different things”. Black folks will still dance and groove with the 2 and 4 with James’ music. We are dancing with the music as if the body is an instrument, we’re adding to the music instead of competing with the music, or with the bass, and naturally so.
It's funny - I always had the opposite problem, long before I started listening to jazz / swing / blues. A friend once told me I had no sense of rhythm, because I kept clapping on the off-beat... which I did because it felt right.
@@Andy-SwingDJ I play music, which is the worst part of it. And my rhythm is the worst part for me. SO thats just one of many levels on which i suck. White privilege my ass XD
@@wildwesley9328 Depends what you're clapping along to. Early jazz, swing, rock'n'roll, gospel, and so many related forms of music want you to clap on the 2 & 4. Give this one a listen - an English audience (I think) - and it just sounds WRONG! th-cam.com/video/7LThOGnemOc/w-d-xo.html
Imagine a drum kit. 1 - kick drum & high hat 2 - snare & high hate 3 - repeat #1 4 - repeat #2 Clap with the snare. It makes more sense than your method.
I’m so grateful I never learned 1&3.
Latin music uses Afro rhythm and the 2&4 method❤
I clap on 1,2,3,4 so I’m safe
It's the only surefire move.
No you are not. 2&4 is where the swing is.
I don't clap at all so I'm safe too.
I tried shifting my counting so that the beats would fall on 1 & 3, but it kept correcting to 2 & 4, and I think I've never understood music less
Latin Music uses Afro rhythms so never learned 1&3 and it bothered my bandmates😂
The opposite for me 😅
Thanks for putting this together Andy, great stuff. I;e been looking everywhere for the Duke Ellington clip, found it here by accident.
This must share to Japanese people who wishing to play groove with backbeats. But they got too complicated and having a problem with.
Please let me translate to them.
And thank you so much for sharing 🙏🏼
Be my guest! Glad you like it.
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European’s except UK as well though.
But that’s why groove sounds corny with backbeats snare drum rhythmic pattern , though.
And then Harry Connick Jr helps folks switch from 1 & 3 to 2 & 4 without them knowing it!
That's a great moment. And I love the way the drummer punches the air when he does it....
Only took a bit of tasteful 5/4.
Lol I always naturally go to 2 & 4 with my foot tambourine while playing guitar.
thats counting 1 and 3
1 = boom 2 = tch 3 = kh 4 = tch
you're counting tch and tch with tamborine
but that's european classic
foot stamp on 1 and 3 (or all f), clap on 2 and 4, if song really fast even if its swing, 1 and 3 helps the band feel more relaxed
you did good with this, very good
this video is great
Glorrrry I lovvvve it🎉🎉🎉🎉
Beautiful!
Clap on the + of 1 and 3. Let chaos reign supreme.
Strangely - clap on the 1 and 3, and it sounds more regimented. Clap on the 2 & 4, and it sounds more free, and you *invite* a little jazz chaos. Which is what we want :)
Just discovered this was a thing, was wondering why certain people clap on 1 & 3
Super HOT !
what did she said at 1:30 ... it's call ....?
thanks
"corny"
@@Andy-SwingDJ Thanks :)
Hollering 😭😭🤣🤣😂😂
May I ask, where is the clip from where Dawn Hampton comes out?
It's from Herrang - you can see the full clip here: th-cam.com/video/tEny_nB5yyA/w-d-xo.html
Teach Pastor!!!!
JBP
You know it
I clap on five and then stare ominously for four beats
Think about James Brown and the 1.
I’m sorry but this is actually just not true. Snare has been played on the 2 and 4 for forever and the only people I’ve seen clap on 1 and 3 are people who just don’t do music
What is not true?
Happy black history month ✊🏾✊🏿✊🏽
Sex is on the 2, 4 but Im not telling any more secrets lol
Very funny :)
I don't think white americans would clap on 1 and 3. I'm not an American myself, but I'd say that music based on African-American rhythm patterns has become so widespread that unless you play classical, you will automatically learn to clap on 2 and 4. In Europe, the situation is quite different, as folk music of many nations uses the 1 and 3 pattern.
And you are wrong,
With slower music it's mid beat 1.5, 2.5, 3.5, 4.5. Fever - Peggy Lee for e.g. try clapping 2 & 4 to that and you'll sound wrong.
Going to have to disagree with you w.r.t. Fever (listen to her finger-snapping):
th-cam.com/video/EYxoAJ3Boyc/w-d-xo.html
Fever is 2, 4 ... the real movement of life is 2,4 lol
I assumed clapping on 2 and 4 was a result of the jim crow culture. The white folk clapped on 1 and 3 so the coloured folk had to clap on 2 and 4.
It is sad how divided people are. And amazing that people couldn't appreciate cultural music.
Just don't fucking CLAP at all. It's cheesey.
word.
fuck you....the 2 4 clap gave birth to everything you currently love.
Some music was meant for audience participation, and for clapping along. Some wasn't. You do what's right :)
I have dyscalculia, and also I'm white-- I can't fucking count.
James Brown shoulda seen this. He was all about the one.
This is a different concept. Here we are talking about grooving WITH music. “On the one” and “clapping on the one and two are different things”. Black folks will still dance and groove with the 2 and 4 with James’ music. We are dancing with the music as if the body is an instrument, we’re adding to the music instead of competing with the music, or with the bass, and naturally so.
@@shaspearman8647 could not have said it better ...LIFE is on the 2.4 ..anyway not tell anymore secrets
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Wright is an adjective racist.
Celebrate the differences, don't divide with them.
I'm white and cannot get this '2&4 clapping" pehonmenon, doesnt sound right to me lol XDDDDD
It's funny - I always had the opposite problem, long before I started listening to jazz / swing / blues. A friend once told me I had no sense of rhythm, because I kept clapping on the off-beat... which I did because it felt right.
@@Andy-SwingDJ I play music, which is the worst part of it. And my rhythm is the worst part for me. SO thats just one of many levels on which i suck. White privilege my ass XD
I’m black and clapping on 1&3 sounds wrong to me. It feels rigid and has no flow.
@@wildwesley9328 Depends what you're clapping along to. Early jazz, swing, rock'n'roll, gospel, and so many related forms of music want you to clap on the 2 & 4. Give this one a listen - an English audience (I think) - and it just sounds WRONG! th-cam.com/video/7LThOGnemOc/w-d-xo.html
Imagine a drum kit.
1 - kick drum & high hat
2 - snare & high hate
3 - repeat #1
4 - repeat #2
Clap with the snare. It makes more sense than your method.
That’s so crazy that it’s true. I’m black and I automatically thought 2&4. It’s smoother and gives it flavor. Proud to be black ✊🏾✊🏾
has nothing to do with race.
i’m a white kid with as good of if not better than the second lady
Good on you. But if you dig into the history, you'll start to find that it's *all* about race.
@@Andy-SwingDJ facts. once they feel this is bigger than them feeling comfortable, then they will learn
Yeah, making it about race is stupid. I'm white and will naturally clap on 2/4
@@Andy-SwingDJ Always, absolutely.