Annakin would have been the most powerful jedi ever. However vader with all his limbs would be the strongest sith ever aka the strongest force user ever.
I believe that a healthy Vader might not have become that much more powerful, because a part of why Vader was so successful, was that his past mistakes are the reason why he applies himself. If he were healthy he might be a bit more “lazy” and never reach his full potential
@@semkn9555 Vader being crippled and his suit causing him immense pain and suffering daily is why he was as strong as he was. It was implied if his suit was upgraded, he could get weaker because then his powers could no longer feed off his suffering. It is likely Vader is the full potential for dark side Anakin. Light side Anakin has much more potential than Vader, but it would be harder to achieve it. Yoda said the dark side is not stronger. It is only easier.
PLO Koon is massively low on this list. He’s the only Jedi to ever beat Yoda in a sparring session and had his own form of force lightening. If he wasn’t in the air during order 66 I think he’d have survived it.
His force lightning he had was called force judgment and it even had the power to temporarily disturb or even completely disable someones connection to the force
Fun fact: George lucas was actually planning for jar jar to be darth plaques but people hated him so much that he replaced him in the second movie with count dooku
Plo koon should be higher, his style was the marriage of two of the best styles, and he beat Yoda in a friendly duel(his style perfectly countered yodas)
agreed not canon, but what is canon is maul viewing him as one of the most dangerous Jedi and his mastery of telekinesis, I personally would put him low or mid master master
@@TaintedNimbus In RoTS, we only saw him against Obi-Wan and Anakin, two of the most competent combat force wielders of the Jedi order. In the novelization of RoTS, it states that in order to defeat Grievous, Obi-Wan had to not only had to remove all fear and apprehension from himself, but also had to be in a state of complete concentration, a state so dedicated to the force that he felt nothing but the force itself. Essentially Obi-Wan went ultra instinct, so it isn't really fair to say that Grievous was done poorly in RoTS when the 2003 Clone Wars series was also the pretense for his existence and he was damaged near the end of it.
@@Dylan_mcd-th9xe That and also its important to keep in mind that Obi-Wan Kenobi Vader is NOT peak Vader. It had only been 10 years. He wont be peak Vader for like at least 5 more years.
Actually no, if anakin reached his full potential sure hed be the strongest force user to exist but the suit didnt hinder his potential at all in canon
@@exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen well he would've able to his potential in his lifetime tbh. It was his mindset that seperated him between luke(eu version, idk about canon but maybe) that stopped him from reaching his full potential(canon, in eu he was held back and lost potential). But if he survived rotj he would be alot wiser so he may have
Fun fact: Palpatine killed Kolar Tiin and Fisto quickly not because he was a great duellist (he was though) but because he used a force screech. This stunned all four masters which is why they all just stood there as he mowed them down. Kolar and Tiin were just plain unlucky- Palpatine happened to be nearest to them so killed those two before they could recover. Fisto was just recovering when he was engaged- yet held off long enough (canonically) for Windu to fully recover and properly fight. If Windu and Fisto had been standing closer to Palpatine when stunned- they would have died. No Jedi master had encountered that move before. Even Yoda or Anakin would be crippled by it. In legends, Fisto holds off WAY longer- only going down when he senses Anakins conflicting thoughts. He is in a 1v1 with Palpatine and hears Anakin enter. He senses the dark side surrounding him and is thrown off. This allows Palpatine to decapitate him suddenly. Palpatine was so impressed by Fisto that he kept his head as a trophy. Plo Koon was an incredible duellist too- beating Yoda in a sparring session- something no one else accomplished. Had he been on the ground, he probably would have survived.
@@weeaboo-warrior Disney removed it from canon but since I fucking hate what disney did the franchise I pretend that Star wars media ended with the Clone wars... The force screech was confirmed by Lucas a while back, but Kennedy and co. removed it from canon so now we just see a bunch of Jedi who really suck at fighting. If you look at what Fisto did to Grevious- I understand that he excelled in form 1 so was great against Grevious, but even so- he should have lasted longer. And on top of that, Agen Kolar was said to be a master at swordfighting so that makes no sense at all. I much prefer the Legends version tbh.
The one thing you got wrong is Windu. If you watch the movie, after the force scream, Windu actually recovers and gets into a ready position before the others (who do just stand stunned) are killed. Palpatine couldn’t have one-shot Windu.
They low key need to make a “what if” for star wars like they are for marvel and show us Anakin tempering / harnessing his anger, reaching his full RAW potential and being a good boy with Obi-wan and Yoda
The problem with the last movies is that all the force abilities of the characters are displayed wayyyyy to overpowered. I would think in a normal fight the clone wars prime characters would have easily beaten rey in combat just because of all their combat experience. Rey had like 5 or 6 real lightsaber battles while all the other clone wars characters had tons of them and a lot of them could use their environment better and definately outsmart Rey...
@@niqueeluv6856 Cause she had barely had any training and still displayed Jedi Master level of power. Even Luke under the tutelage of Yoda and Obi-Wan only reached Jedi Knight level during the empire strikes back, and that was with more training than Rey and Luke being the son of Anakin.
I believe that Anakin at 100% of his power and at an older age would not only be the jedi but the most powerful being seen in Star Wars even surpassing the Deus ex machine Palpatine and Starkiller.
I really like how impartial this is. Cause Rey as a character is crap but it's undeniable that without that rose tinted lens she is incredibly powerful
@@u.v.s.5583 Yeah literally. Just look at how the guys from clone wars fight like Obi wan, Anakin etc and then look at how Rey and Kylo ren fight. Its like, articulated calculated precision moves vs clumsy falling strikes.
Kathleen Kennedy was the Sith master, and Rian Johnson was the Sith apprentice. Darth Rian killed The Last Jedi, and Kathleen was fired...or at least we hope 😃
@@MrMaxtng Plagues was always canon, and since when was Vitiate canon? I heard of something with Revan being canon with TCW but the episodes never got made so I don’t know if he actually is. Anyways, none of them have feats so they can’t be placed on the list.
It’s bs me Kenobi yoda and Luke should be god tier not Rey we could kill Rey in two hits they even said I was the most powerful to ever be seen even In phantom menace
"Lando's kind of a coward" Also Lando: Leads the attack against and then directly into the core of the second death star. Are you fucking insane my guy?
I feel like the the 3 most powerful force feats are 1. Anakin making the son and daughter submit to him 2. Most people don’t know this one, but Vitiate using the force to trick 8000 Sith Lords into giving up their life to increase his power by a long shot. After this boost, he was able to casually switch bodies when his current one was near death, or dead. 3. Yoda lifting a living mountain.
You are missing Rey immediately knowing more about repairing the millennium falcon and how to operate her than Han Solo: thats with in seconds of being on board. thats God tier knowledge
@@ferociousrazordino3581 im not sure legends luke was most likely a god but i get what you mean we havent seen that much of luke in the films i do hope that we might get a luke serie but because of the fact that mark hamill is a bit old we probably not getting it
@@tbdc_nxphelim1466 i hope we do tho. Cause tlj luke was cut from the force and decreased significantly in power and was still insanely strong. Now inagine him right BEFORE he cut himself.
It’s worth mentioning that maul didn’t use the force during the entire fight with pre because he wanted to keep the fight fair If he did use the force he could’ve easily killed him instantly
Ok pretty good list. I also like how u didn't rank the characters based on potential as that would be unfair. Anakin would've been number 1 had that been the case
@@alecetym6246 well Anakin would have put down both the son and the daughter relatively easily. He would also have had the strength to kill the entire jedi order on his own, including palpatine. And u know how palpatine with the dyad enhancement was equal to rey and every other jedi? Well anakin would have also been at that level if not more so had he reached his full potential given that he would have wiped out all the jedi
This is purely my opinion but I see Mortis as a force nexus. Anakin has never shown such power against Dooku, Obi wan or Ventress. He has the most potential of any Star Wars character and I would argue he is the 3rd or 4th strongest character of the clone wars but he ain’t god tier
Rey isn't really that strong at all... I feel like your not going deep enough into the scaling. She didn't have any notable fights before palpatine, it was mostly just wonky feats that show her "palpatine blood" (ex. The unwaranted sith lightning, her lifting piles of boulders with no previous feats, her resisting a trained kylo ren when she didnt even know what a "Jedi" really was). Even her fight againdt palpatine, she was getting negged when she had one lightsaber, (windu only needed 1 to combat against palps lighting, yoda nona because his force strength and defense is so prominent) she only succeeded when she got the 2nd saber. Plus, if Palp actually dueled her with the intent to kill sith vs jedi... Her skills would not be able to match at all... Just poor storytelling.
Couldn't say it better myself. She is average at best no way is she stronger then Luke ROTJ or after, jedi knight anakin and vader, Palpatine, Even count dooku
@@hello-46 dude she didnt really kill palp herself, she basically just reflected his own power onto him, so basically palps fried himself 💀 Rey did literally nothing shes weak af
Mace fought against episode 3 Palpatine, whilst Rey fought against dyad Palpatine. If you didn’t know, dyad Palpatine is FAR more powerful than any other version of his character.
20:29 One of the strongest telekinetic things indeed But Vader, in Fallen Order, stopped a huge amount of water, deep in the ocean. Considering the mass of water, that was also a crazy strong thing.
I mean, he only has to equal the water pressure flowing in, when the area of the hole wasn't that massive? It's impressive, don't get me wrong, but not 'thousands of tons' impressive, let alone 'way more than that' - the hole/the area Vader held back simply wasn't that big. There's only so much water that can fit and flow in that amount of space. It's just not Vader's best stuff, is all I'm saying. He does other shit in Fallen Order that's probably more impressive than the reality of that, if you understand what it entails.
@@naingmon If you don't know physics don't feel like you HAVE to comment. P=F/S F is the force which is basically F=m.g m is the mass of water, g the gravitationnal acceleration (around 10m/s^2) m=V*p V being the Volume of water above him p being the volumic mass of water (1kg/dm^3 or 1t/m^3) Also, since P=F/S, the smaller the "area of the hole" the greater the pressure gets Ccl: P=[(V.1000)*10]/S S being maybe 10m^2 max V being like 1 419 000 000 m^3 (on Earth) Which gives a pressure of 1 419 000 000 000 Pa, which is 14 190 000 bars of pressure (Earth's atmosphere is 1.013bar on average) So you're telling us a guy who handles over 14 millions times Earth's atmosphere isn't "that strong" ?
@@saturapt3229 Fair enough on the first bit, I'll admit my physics is rusty (should've had my head on straight), but I have to question your result. I don't particularly understand where you got V from. If 'on earth' is meant to be 'total water on earth' then that's...well, wrong, firstly. There's about that many cubic *kilometers* of water on Earth. So cubic meters should be 1.419x10^18 m^3 (which leads to even more absurd results). Secondly...I'm not sure why you'd use the total volume of water on Earth there. Like, just intuitively, 1.42 terapascals to hold back some water seems...really, really fishy. That's just an magnitude or two short of a nuclear detonation, at point blank. Heck, correcting for your unit conversions (or lack thereof, if I understand where you got V from), you're looking at pressures greater than *the core of the sun* by over fifty thousand times! That's...obviously not right. At all. Like sure, there's a formula there. But that doesn't mean the given one actually represents the reality of the situation. If you have a scientific formula and workings that yields absurd results, like say...a coffee table weighs 50,000 tons. You don't confidently assert that's right. You check it against your intuition, go back, and see where you could've gone wrong. Honestly I think the fact that in your model *the entire planet's* supply of water is somehow relevant at all to a single hole should be ringing alarm bells.
Honestly I'd put them lower because of skill woth lightsabers. They barely showed any technique throughout the movies unlike other characters. Note: i mean the weaker forms of the 2.
Yeah, this is about power-tier not the storytelling of the sequel trilogy. The plot might be an ass for some but there's no doubt that by the end of Rise of Skywalker Rey is the most powerful surviving force-sensitive in the galaxy especially that the dyad had become one in her after Ben's death.
In an interview, George Lucas said that Anakin would have been twice as powerful as Palpatine, if he hadn’t been burned alive and had his limbs cut off.
Actually Jar-Jar is god tier and that's the only thing I'd change. I mean it's so obvious he would've died 100 fold if he was just any gungan. Hell, even Yoda would have trouble with some of the feats he pulls off without even trying, for example the scene where he drops from one side of a balcony in the prequels, then immediately is shown falling from the other side, as if he executed an extremely quick wall run. I argue that he's more than just force-sensitive, he bends the world around him to fit his actions. A culmination of the living force, similar to Anakin yet much more powerful.
@TH-camUser true but through the generations Palpatine grew immensely powerful, by rise of Skywalker he was way stronger than prequel era sidious. All of the powerful characters grew alot more powerful in those three years, let alone the decades since. Look at anakin, obi wan, maul and ahsoka. That's not even taking into consideration the power Amp anakin got when he became vader (in disney canon) and Palpatine still instills fear in him.
Me Seeing Supreme Leader Kylo Ren above RoTS Rey: Good, good Also me at the end of the video seeing a new Rey in God Tier: This is outrageous, it's unfair, how can you have years of training and be destroyed by a girl with so little training.
@Lyxzen Rey being Creamy Sheev's granddaughter doesn't just give you the power from the jump. She should've been beaten before any training and then work for her powers.
Him: chewbacca at padawan tier and han and lando at youngling tier me playing vader in battlefront 2: how can i be beaten by such individuals so low power
Vader does tons of stuff in the stories that isn’t given justice in the shows or movies. Not to mention Plo Koon is one of the best all around jedi during the clone wars and mace windu is a master at fighting.
Personally, I think Vader in Canon should be higher. Hear me out he literally went against the will of the force and ripped an inter-dimensional barrier in space-time. He defeated an Old republic Sith Lord and used Red Force lightning to fry the Emperor. He also resurrected Padme from the dead while in this state. These are just a few feats and personally, I think they are better than Rey and Dyiad Palpatine's feats. What do you think?
Pong Krell is vastly underrated. He showed more foresight than the entire counsel to know they were being deceived. He also showed that the execution order of the Jedi would not have been successful against him. He was a extremely accomplished general and showed amazing strength and speed with his double bladed sabers. His force push rivaled the very best.
OP is right. I think Krell would have plunger raped Greivious. He might not have beaten anyone in the high master tier but he'd have been a hell of a problem for them.
Pong Krell is basically an organic grievous. If the guy learned some self control and mastered soresu, I believe he could actually give Vader some problems…
Plo Koon is one of the most powerful jedi in the whole jedi history only falling behind yoda, mace and anakin. In fact, he is one of the most powerful force user being able to use electric judgement and is the only jedi that defeated yoda in a lightsaber duel. He is super underrated!
I agree, but in scaling you have to base power assessments on feats, where Plo Koon doesn’t have many to base him on like Anakin, Asohka, or Obi Wan. If a future series or canon material showed him battling and beating better characters he would probably be higher. Anything else would be speculation and could make this a list not based on evidence.
Luke could literally once sustain a black hole while simultaneously pushing enemy spacecrafts in to it, he brought down several 80- 80s by using the force and could remove entire spaceships from view with a single thought, but ok.
Unpopular Opinion: Count Dooku should easily be 'Grand Master Tier' on this list. He's the only person to be Padawan to both the greatest light-side user (Yoda) and dark-side user (Sidious) in one lifetime. He was a prodigy Jedi for 70 years, gifted in telekinesis, teacher of Jedi Knights, and it has been stated he would regularly best Mace Window in sparring training. He was the absolute master of the form 2 fighting style (Makashi) which is designed for lightsaber duelling, and he had mastered it for decades. He was able to fight Yoda to a standstill, after being fatigued from defeating Obi-Wan & Anakin. 70 years of knowledge and experience in the Jedi order, student to Yoda himself, and then he decides to spend the rest of his life learning about the dark arts from Sidious. Including force lightning, and collecting dark artefactual enhancements. he is one of the only people, in all of star wars, to have a complete understanding of both the light & dark side of the force. People who say he lost to Anakin should remember. One, Sidious never wanted Dooku to kill Anakin and he was under strict orders not to do so in their duel. Two, even if you don't believe that, it was a 1v2 and these are two of the best Jedi's of that time period, it doesn't matter if Dooku easily destroyed Obi-Wan and it became a 1v1 with Anakin. The duel still started off as a 1v2, hardly a fair fight. And three, It was pretty clear Dooku was trying to draw out Anakin's rage in their fight. I suspect if Dooku really wanted to kill Anakin he would've done so, considering how easily he dealt with Obi-Wan, and Obi-Wan was able to defeat Anakin. So it's hard to believe someone like Dooku, who can fight on even grounds with Yoda (and defeat Mace Window in sparring) loses to Anakin. In conclusion, Count Dooku is one of (if not) the most underrated Jedi/Siths when it comes to power and knowledge. I would personally consider him to be not only 'Grand Master Tier' but only behind Sidious & Yoda in rank. Considering those were both his masters, and he has far more experience than everybody else on that tier. An argument could be made for Old Luke being above him in rank, but no one else on that tier. Vader would lose to force lightning, Snoke is a poor man's Count Dooku, old Obi-Wan would lose for a third time to Dooku, and It's already been stated Mace has lost to Dooku in spar training. In my opinion you have criminally misplaced Dooku on this tier list.
Whilst i agree with the basic premise of Dooku should he higher, he was known to tire fast in fights due to his age. Also, sparring isn't comparable to an actual fight, I struggle to believe Dooku would have done half as well as Windu against palp. There was also the force vision in the clone wars that showed Dooku getting man handled by anakin.
@@weeaboo-warrior well we’ve already established Bendus placement is wrong and seeing as it’s canon a lot of the other stuff I mentioned might not count
Exactly! Also shaak ti is apparently weaker then kanan she was literally the most powerful jedi in the temple during order 66 which is why Vader hunted her down specially
He is also the only Jedi to ever beat Yoda in a duel. (Due to his fighting style and his luck). In fact, he used s Variant of Form V called Xi'an, perfect against multiple opponents, and when you're fighting Yoda, it looks like you are fighting 3 Jedi Masters, plus, Plo Koon was also a master of Form IV (The Form Yoda uses), so this combination is perfect against Yoda.
I would go as far as to say he's evenly matched, if not stronger, than Kit Fisto who is my favorite jedi. Really did him dirty with that ranking considering he also has force judgement in his arsenal.
Although a lot of the placements I agree with, I’d put Canon Vader as number one because of that scene in Fallen Order when he’s holding back all that water, which would weigh a fuck ton. Also him opening that rift between the living and dead realms is mighty impressive.
I actually debunked the calculation feat with him holding back the water in one of my other videos. To open the rift he needed the power of the castle so that doesn’t really count.
Two things. I’d say Yoda is actually stronger than Palpatine. Especially in his prime. Obviously he wouldn’t have as much experience or wisdom but he’s hundreds of years old. He’s arguably the greatest duelist and also the strongest Jedi. I also wonder if you’d add theoretical characters on the list. Specifically, Darth Yoda, as he was shown in the comics and Dooku said if he went to the dark side he would surpass Sidious and any other sith.
Even though yoda said dark side doesn't make you stronger i must agree if he embrace the dark side he will surpass sidious. But without it I'm pretty sure prime sidious is still stronger than any version of yoda, especially in legends since many said that palpy probably one of the strongest force user in sw
What about anakin if he never became darth vader? What if his full potential was reached being a grandmaster jedi? And what if he did become vader, but never burnt/damaged in any way to affect his full potential, which is stronger in dark side If I'm not mistaken? And what if luke with his full power became a sith? I'm asking this because I always forget the scales, I guess vader was supposed to be twice more powerful than Sidious.
I personally think you should have given Kit Fisto more credit. Not everyone realizes the brilliance of the duel he had with Grievous. Like how Obi Wan was not just *a* master of form 3, (ironclad defense) he was *the* master of form 3, Kit Fisto was *the* master of form 1 (basic, unpredictable, raw, bad for 1 on 1). Kit Fisto, being the smart and crafty bastard that he was, ignored the fact that the four lightsabers he was contending with were attached to the same enemy. He split them up in his head and thought of each arm as an individual enemy, thus allowing his mastery of Form 1 to shine. He made it so that he was almost fighting a group of four people at once, which is just brilliant. When he cuts off Grievous’ hand and gets two lightsabers, you can kind of see him change his thinking. With the two lightsabers, Fisto now sees a group of three that he’s fighting, and is doing that with both hands. Green man= genius, change my mind
@Jett Lucas Hayes I disagree. While what you said about Form 1 is true and Palps got right up to him, that isn’t the only reason he lost. There’s plenty of reasons Fisto lost to Palpatine. We often forget that Palpatine was a master of all 7 of the lightsaber forms, not to mention how much more powerful he was in the force. Fisto was lucky he survived as long as he did.
Great list! Although I would put the father, son and daughter at the top, followed by grandmaster luke and palpatine. And obviously if anakin reached his full potential he’d be number one no doubt
@@joemama_6009 She's legends, and would definitely be the strongest no question. Personally, I like the fact she is non-canon because I don't the really like the concept
@@h2o_struckmars Explain. I bet it will just be me debunking you using legends arguments or you not watching the video and understanding which versions of the characters I was using.
I have to admit my first thought on him being put below enraged Anakin was that shouldn't count as its made pretty clear at the book and even hinted at in the movie he threw the fight. "I was promised leniency!" He thought he'd put up a good fight, lose and his master would "take him prisoner" never realizing that Sidious intended to goad Anakin into killing him as part of making him his new apprentice. Then again I do prefer the books in some cases such as the arrest of Palpatine scene. In the movie he kills 3 jedi in seconds then struggles against Windu while in the book he actually manipulates them. Not pulling out his lightsabre till he's gotten a telepath to lower his guard so he can read his thoughts to "prove his innocence" and actually fights awhile against Fisto (I think) and Windu before killing Fisto.
@@tobipanda908 On the other hand Maul really failed because of his own arrogance toying with Obi Wan and after that he grew more experienced and knowledgeable whereas Doku was on a doward slide due to age from his first apperance. I'd rather like to see the two at their prime in a no holds barred fight.
I know they aren't cannon but isn't there a deleted scene from the clone wars of revan and I think another sith from the game showing up? so technically they might be cannon???
That was the explanation in legends, but even in legends it was stated he was about to get overpowered by Sidious' lightning. So in legends, he did win the duel, but he would have actually lost the fight. In canon we don't know exactly what happened.
16:40 Ahsoka actually beat an Inquisitor without a lightsaber in the Ahsoka novel, literally just grabbed the dude's lightsaber and pushed him off a cliff
I cant tell you enough how REFRESHING it is to see a non-insanely opinion based Star Wars list. Nothing wrong with having opinions, but I feel like us Star Wars fans can get so defensive and wrapped up in what WE think is “best”. This is so objective and based on the source material, and I love it man. Great list!!!
@@weeaboo-warrior Nightmother Talzin being ranked lower than Vos, Dooku, Maul, Kylo and Rey is just not accurate. Also Barris Ofee ranked higher than Shaak Ti. Padawan Kenobi ranked higher than Ki Adi and Plo Koon. Grogu at tier 1, Snoke rated higher than Anakin and Mace Windu and being in the same tier as Palpatine. Rey higher than Yoda and Vader and Mace and so on, when the only reason she beat Palpatine was because she got help from all the other Jedi that ever excisted. Its just not very accurate. There is more but this is what I came up with on the spot.
@@BENNEBOOM Judging by your comment you didn’t actually watch the video and listen to my explanations. I said Talzin could be stronger but lacked combat feats. Shaak ti and the other masters were only placed that low because they lacked feats in canon. Grogu is only that low because this came out before season 2. And the version of Rey that is that high is the one powered by all the Jedi. Rey without that power was put in the mid master tier.
With so many characters, I'm surprised I agree with so much of your list. Obviously, I don't agree with everything, but for nearly the entire video I was like "yeah this makes sense".
Well, yes. To the first part at least. Whether he has all his limbs or not wouldn't even matter though. His potential remains the same regardless of his limbs.
Btw when Palpatine lifts his hands and the ships rise out of the water he was showing Kylo a vision through the force not actually lifting them. It explains this in the book
Another impressive force use by Vader is in Fallen Order where he holds back tons of water. Like one of Game Theorists co theorist weighed it simply by measuring the distance from the surface to where he was standing, and apparently it's the strongest Vader is seen. I'm not sure how true that is though, you'll just have to take my word.
Legends: -overpowering Starkiller who pulled down a star destroyer -survived the colaps of a building while his armor was destroyed -should technically scale above or at least be relative to Naga Sadow wielding solar flared as there have been Vision of his power in the time of the ancient Sith and Sidious is stated to be the most powerful Sith of all time by George Lukas -is stated to be at 80 percent of palpatines level when dark empire palpatine creates force storms allowing to transport 17 kilometer long Ships across the galaxy and needed all Jedi to have ever lived to keep him locked in the neverworlds of the force
@@vegterble Kid haven’t seen the real star wars movies. And dosen’t know nothing about Revan. I think even Kylo Ren is better. And he isn’t even real. Because if he was, he would be in a movie right now.
@@vegterbleRevan would be nerfed heavily if he was in live action. Literally every Canon Star wars Character is ridiculously more powerful in Legends. Take Luke for example.
This is a great video! I don't agree with everything, but I just love how justified and reasonable you manage to do this. It inspired me to make similar lists for other fandoms!
Obi-Wan in PM: Low Master
Obi-Wan in AOTC:Mid Master
Obi-Wan in ROTS: High Master
Obi-Wan in ANH: Grand Master
Obi-Wan with the high ground: God Tier
Obi-Wan with the high ground: High Master tier.
Because he’s a high.... master.
I’ll see myself out.
Me and obi should both be god tier not Rey in what world is she more powerful than us
@@anakinskywalker2413 Killing younglings doesn't make you god tier...
@@Someothername2134 your right killing Kenobi palpatene duku and windu makes me god tier
@@anakinskywalker2413 Correction: Rey killed Palps. Case closed.
Sand was powerful enough to put fear in the heart of Anakin skywalker. Definitely god tier.
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Hahahaha nice one
Gonk droid: are you challenging me?
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Not sand….
You missed R2-D2 in the god tier list
And bossk
And Jar Jar
@@gentlemansoup *darth jar jar
@GAVIN ORTEGA True. Luke couldn't blow up the Death Star without R2 :0
All characters in the saga would be dead if r2 didn't save their ass
Darth Vader is arguably my favorite villain in all of fiction, but knowing how strong anakin would be without becoming vader makes my blood boil
Without the problems that arise with horrible burns and a restrictive suit, Anakin could be much more powerful. Both physically and in the force.
Annakin would have been the most powerful jedi ever. However vader with all his limbs would be the strongest sith ever aka the strongest force user ever.
I believe that a healthy Vader might not have become that much more powerful, because a part of why Vader was so successful, was that his past mistakes are the reason why he applies himself. If he were healthy he might be a bit more “lazy” and never reach his full potential
@@semkn9555 Vader being crippled and his suit causing him immense pain and suffering daily is why he was as strong as he was. It was implied if his suit was upgraded, he could get weaker because then his powers could no longer feed off his suffering.
It is likely Vader is the full potential for dark side Anakin.
Light side Anakin has much more potential than Vader, but it would be harder to achieve it. Yoda said the dark side is not stronger. It is only easier.
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PLO Koon is massively low on this list. He’s the only Jedi to ever beat Yoda in a sparring session and had his own form of force lightening. If he wasn’t in the air during order 66 I think he’d have survived it.
AAAND he was also a top dogfighter, one of the best
I agree, however this list is canon, he can only go off what Disney say 😥
@@steve-qp4kv screw what Disney says starwars stopped in 2012
His force lightning he had was called force judgment and it even had the power to temporarily disturb or even completely disable someones connection to the force
@@steve-qp4kv there is no way this list in canon. Jedi high council members rated below the grand inquisitor? Who was barely a Jedi knight??
Ayyy I’ll take the strongest non force user award, I’m just built different
Hello there
and your reward is another light saber for your collection
@@nightwish1453 my pleasure
Hello there
You are not grievous I'm the real one
jar jar is at the bottom? this list is completely false... everyone knows jar jar is the ultimate sith lord
y e s
We must keep the identity of Lord Binks a secret until it is time to act.
rey as a youngling and battledroids with darth gonk droids 🥵
no
Fun fact: George lucas was actually planning for jar jar to be darth plaques but people hated him so much that he replaced him in the second movie with count dooku
Plo koon should be higher, his style was the marriage of two of the best styles, and he beat Yoda in a friendly duel(his style perfectly countered yodas)
That was a rumor from a non cannon non legends WII game sorry
Not canon
agreed not canon, but what is canon is maul viewing him as one of the most dangerous Jedi and his mastery of telekinesis, I personally would put him low or mid master master
Your asking a lot from him he put Rey in god tier
At first I thought you put my boy Kit Fisto on the youngling tier
lmao
@Ricky o picky idk it would be very easy to kill him
@Ricky o picky he's still super young if he lives to reach his full potential he'll definitely be up there on the list
@Ricky o picky they weren't trying to kill him
@@aeos2387 yea but remember they aren’t looking at his prime but i agree in his prime he could be amazing
The annoying thing about Grevious is that his feats are pretty insane sometimes, but he has SO GODDAMN MANY anti-feats.
The biggest One of his Anti-Feats is being shorter than Anakin expected
@@nightmare-hl9ue god tier comment
@@nightmare-hl9ue his biggest feat is having a massive lightsaber collection
Well if you went entirely by Legends, he'd be a lot better.
It's just the Clone Wars 2008 and even RoTS didn't do him any justice.
@@TaintedNimbus
In RoTS, we only saw him against Obi-Wan and Anakin, two of the most competent combat force wielders of the Jedi order. In the novelization of RoTS, it states that in order to defeat Grievous, Obi-Wan had to not only had to remove all fear and apprehension from himself, but also had to be in a state of complete concentration, a state so dedicated to the force that he felt nothing but the force itself. Essentially Obi-Wan went ultra instinct, so it isn't really fair to say that Grievous was done poorly in RoTS when the 2003 Clone Wars series was also the pretense for his existence and he was damaged near the end of it.
It hurts to see Rey in God Tier. I can’t take the last 3 movies and all their characters serious
Just because you dont like The movies doesnt mean there are not strong characters
Maybe she was strong but no way does she deserve a higher rank then Luke Vader Yoda or obiwan
@aa Her plot armor was basically her over poweredness anyway...
She had the most powerful weapon in the Galaxy, the power of a terrible script.
She was just really powerful which is why it’s rubbish
Do you think that the placement of Obi-wan changes after episode 6 of Kenobi?
He seems incredibly powerful like we haven’t seen before.
Your two years too late
@@hammy1999 bruh, he asked a question that could not have been asked 2 years ago
No cause Vader all ways has a weak spot for kenobi and is never focused when fighting him
@@Dylan_mcd-th9xe That and also its important to keep in mind that Obi-Wan Kenobi Vader is NOT peak Vader. It had only been 10 years. He wont be peak Vader for like at least 5 more years.
@@unsapient2197 obi wan hasn’t peaked yet either. The only time Vader beat him was in OT and he was trying to die to become a force ghost
If anakin never got into the suit he’d have a tier all of his own
Actually no, if anakin reached his full potential sure hed be the strongest force user to exist but the suit didnt hinder his potential at all in canon
@@ferociousrazordino3581 Yeah, IMO, he'd have surpass Sidious had he live long anough (in canon).
Lucas Tier
@@exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen well he would've able to his potential in his lifetime tbh. It was his mindset that seperated him between luke(eu version, idk about canon but maybe) that stopped him from reaching his full potential(canon, in eu he was held back and lost potential). But if he survived rotj he would be alot wiser so he may have
@@ferociousrazordino3581 Thats bullshit. He losed most of his midiclorians. Thats why.
Can’t believe he underestimated our lord darth jar jar smh.
I know he killed my friend
Facts
Darth jarious
The TRUE antagonist!
you forgot palpatines most op ability, the fact that he is the senate
How could I forget such an important detail!
@@weeaboo-warrior im disappointed lol, but the only thing i would change, is throw s7 ahsoka on god tier list
Not yet
Its treason than
And that he loves democracy
Fun fact: Palpatine killed Kolar Tiin and Fisto quickly not because he was a great duellist (he was though) but because he used a force screech. This stunned all four masters which is why they all just stood there as he mowed them down. Kolar and Tiin were just plain unlucky- Palpatine happened to be nearest to them so killed those two before they could recover. Fisto was just recovering when he was engaged- yet held off long enough (canonically) for Windu to fully recover and properly fight.
If Windu and Fisto had been standing closer to Palpatine when stunned- they would have died. No Jedi master had encountered that move before. Even Yoda or Anakin would be crippled by it.
In legends, Fisto holds off WAY longer- only going down when he senses Anakins conflicting thoughts. He is in a 1v1 with Palpatine and hears Anakin enter. He senses the dark side surrounding him and is thrown off. This allows Palpatine to decapitate him suddenly.
Palpatine was so impressed by Fisto that he kept his head as a trophy.
Plo Koon was an incredible duellist too- beating Yoda in a sparring session- something no one else accomplished. Had he been on the ground, he probably would have survived.
I’m not sure if the force screech is canon anymore.
@@weeaboo-warrior Disney removed it from canon but since I fucking hate what disney did the franchise I pretend that Star wars media ended with the Clone wars...
The force screech was confirmed by Lucas a while back, but Kennedy and co. removed it from canon so now we just see a bunch of Jedi who really suck at fighting. If you look at what Fisto did to Grevious- I understand that he excelled in form 1 so was great against Grevious, but even so- he should have lasted longer. And on top of that, Agen Kolar was said to be a master at swordfighting so that makes no sense at all.
I much prefer the Legends version tbh.
@@thetorturepenguin Where did Lucas confirm the force screech?
@@thetorturepenguinwell dooku also defeated both yoda and mace windy in spars
The one thing you got wrong is Windu. If you watch the movie, after the force scream, Windu actually recovers and gets into a ready position before the others (who do just stand stunned) are killed. Palpatine couldn’t have one-shot Windu.
Mandalorian Jeans Guy: you underestimate my power
LMAO
You are strong and wise and I am very proud of you
@@jerakona7658 OMG Sans Undertale wholesome
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Why doesn’t this have more likes?
haha
*See's Obi-Wan isn't god tier*
Me: "Impossible, perhaps the archives are incomplete"
Kenobi has chopped almost every major character into bits and then transcended death itself and still gets shit on. I don’t get it.
@@keenanscutchfield7229 he’s a hard working talentless lucky overachiever
"How could this happen, we're smarter than this"
"How could this happen, we're smarter than this"
@@catherinearcher1106 Apparently not. I say patience.
They low key need to make a “what if” for star wars like they are for marvel and show us Anakin tempering / harnessing his anger, reaching his full RAW potential and being a good boy with Obi-wan and Yoda
That would be cool.
There's a couple funny 'What if" comics with one about Yoda using the death star to crush the emperor.
HIGH KEY
Please
Star wars theory has been doing this for years
The problem with the last movies is that all the force abilities of the characters are displayed wayyyyy to overpowered. I would think in a normal fight the clone wars prime characters would have easily beaten rey in combat just because of all their combat experience. Rey had like 5 or 6 real lightsaber battles while all the other clone wars characters had tons of them and a lot of them could use their environment better and definately outsmart Rey...
Yes agree, Rey should at most have the power level of an average Jedi Knight.
@@contecgames6225 how do u get to decide how powerful a character should be...
@@niqueeluv6856 Cause she had barely had any training and still displayed Jedi Master level of power. Even Luke under the tutelage of Yoda and Obi-Wan only reached Jedi Knight level during the empire strikes back, and that was with more training than Rey and Luke being the son of Anakin.
@@onionman8160 well she is a palpatine
@@niqueeluv6856 And Luke is a Skywalker. He had more force power than what Palpatine did.
Battlefront 2 has me convinced Han Solo is on the god tier, you are all wrong
Yeah lol his L1+R1 is OP
The granade ooooffff
Haha haha lol I agree
My han lvl 109 i think
Underrated comment
This ranking is brilliant. I’m glad you put multiple version of the same characters because most characters grow stronger over time.
You have 66 likes at the moment ik placing this and your profile is Aboutaleb the emperor 🤔 execute order 66😮
I agree with your comment perfection
@@jannijamn7054 😂
@@ReySkywalker2 Come one . . . we can get your comment to 100 likes . . .
@@sh-cj1li like Grievous sadly
I believe that Anakin at 100% of his power and at an older age would not only be the jedi but the most powerful being seen in Star Wars even surpassing the Deus ex machine Palpatine and Starkiller.
Yh Anakin would be like invincible if he was trained by a stronger Jedi he would have been able to destroy planets with his bare hands or something
Starkiller was shit he defeated Vader cause he had luck a lnd new how to fight him
@@nikolamilickovic1339 and in the second game its been comfirmed he was losing and only won because of the weather and area they were at a
@@wowthatsmild2706 yes
Starkiller is overrated like cmon dude so many people would beat him on this list
I really like how impartial this is. Cause Rey as a character is crap but it's undeniable that without that rose tinted lens she is incredibly powerful
Mace windu: i cant give you the rank of master
Anakin: Watch This
Don’t you agree me Kenobi Luke and yoda should be gods not Rey
@@anakinskywalker2413 you are forgetting vader palpatine. I think dooku could deafeat rey
@@williambreivik8484 "Clumsy and unrefined swordmanship" Rey versus Master Lee? Dooku wins.
@@u.v.s.5583 Yeah literally. Just look at how the guys from clone wars fight like Obi wan, Anakin etc and then look at how Rey and Kylo ren fight. Its like, articulated calculated precision moves vs clumsy falling strikes.
Kathleen Kennedy is most powerful, as she almost destroyed the entire Star Wars franchise
Kathleen Kennedy was the Sith master, and Rian Johnson was the Sith apprentice. Darth Rian killed The Last Jedi, and Kathleen was fired...or at least we hope 😃
LMFAO
Omg true
She arguably succeeded.
Almost?
I disagree with a lot of these choices, but this is still the most comprehensive and fair list I’ve seen so far
That’s fair. Not everyone will agree with everything.
Yeah I agree, there was a fair bit that was off.
I disagree. No Revan, no Darth Plagueis, no Vitiate, which are all canon now.
@@MrMaxtng Plagues was always canon, and since when was Vitiate canon? I heard of something with Revan being canon with TCW but the episodes never got made so I don’t know if he actually is. Anyways, none of them have feats so they can’t be placed on the list.
@@FoggyTheHippo yeah like me yoda and Kenobi not being god tier when I killed palpatene
I always imagined a grievous with the force he'd be one of the most op characters
Definitely
If vader got to his prime without being burned, he’d probably be just as strong as the rise of skywalker palpatine
Prime pre suit vader would be unstopable, and the most powerful force user ever existed.
If vader didn't get burned, he would for sure be stronger than palpatine in TROS
Also if Disney cared about Luke he would be god tier as in legends he can manipulate singularities regularly
He would be Legends Luke Skywalker
He’d be stronger
I'd put mando higher after seeing the newest season
Agreed
@@amazingabby25 Yup
Especially with his beskar spear making it so he can fight light saber users like mof Gideon
Especially when he fought the pirates (without his bascar) in the new episode
And Ashoka
Weeaboo Warrior, the only person in the galaxy to grant Anakin the rank of master.
It’s bs me Kenobi yoda and Luke should be god tier not Rey we could kill Rey in two hits they even said I was the most powerful to ever be seen even In phantom menace
"Lando's kind of a coward"
Also Lando: Leads the attack against and then directly into the core of the second death star.
Are you fucking insane my guy?
I feel like the the 3 most powerful force feats are
1. Anakin making the son and daughter submit to him
2. Most people don’t know this one, but Vitiate using the force to trick 8000 Sith Lords into giving up their life to increase his power by a long shot. After this boost, he was able to casually switch bodies when his current one was near death, or dead.
3. Yoda lifting a living mountain.
You are missing Rey immediately knowing more about repairing the millennium falcon and how to operate her than Han Solo: thats with in seconds of being on board. thats God tier knowledge
She was a scavenger chipping off pieces of old ISD
Legends Luke casually moving black holes with the force
I think the reasoning in this video generally is „stupid“
An underrated one is Kaan's thought bomb
Where is Gonk Droid from Lego Star Wars?
He is too overpowered to put on the list.
@@weeaboo-warrior that is correct.
Correct
If he was on the list he’d be at Progenitor Tier; so high above everything else there’d be no point
He is super god tier
Who’s here after *somebody* absolutely bodied the hallway scene in The Mandalorian S2.
Yeah..... i think luke should also be on the god tier since he is the most powerful jedi
@@tbdc_nxphelim1466 maybe not god tier even though we didn't see his prime yet but from what we've seen probably grand master tier
@@ferociousrazordino3581 im not sure legends luke was most likely a god but i get what you mean we havent seen that much of luke in the films i do hope that we might get a luke serie but because of the fact that mark hamill is a bit old we probably not getting it
@@tbdc_nxphelim1466 i hope we do tho.
Cause tlj luke was cut from the force and decreased significantly in power and was still insanely strong. Now inagine him right BEFORE he cut himself.
That hallway scene would not be anything special for any jedi masters.
It’s worth mentioning that maul didn’t use the force during the entire fight with pre because he wanted to keep the fight fair
If he did use the force he could’ve easily killed him instantly
Ok pretty good list. I also like how u didn't rank the characters based on potential as that would be unfair. Anakin would've been number 1 had that been the case
How so? It's a genuine question as im only recently getting into the lore, no need for the aggression, Anakin followers.
@@alecetym6246 well Anakin would have put down both the son and the daughter relatively easily. He would also have had the strength to kill the entire jedi order on his own, including palpatine. And u know how palpatine with the dyad enhancement was equal to rey and every other jedi? Well anakin would have also been at that level if not more so had he reached his full potential given that he would have wiped out all the jedi
@@alecetym6246 Wdym how so ??? He has the greatest force potential in all of canon and legends. And In existence.
@@alecetym6246 lucas himself said that anakin at his full power would be twice as powerfull as Palpatin
This is purely my opinion but I see Mortis as a force nexus. Anakin has never shown such power against Dooku, Obi wan or Ventress. He has the most potential of any Star Wars character and I would argue he is the 3rd or 4th strongest character of the clone wars but he ain’t god tier
Wow an unbiased and fair star wars power list? Honestly this is the best one I have seen when it comes to power ranking
Yeah totally cuz kylo is on the same level as dooku, obi wan and anakin
@@viktordahlberg8926 On the same level but weaker
@@deadshot5007 how is this the best power ranking? Boba fett went toe to tow with vader and deserves to be high master
@@ranvirmalhi4850 Was that in legends or canon? Cause this is a canon list.
@@deadshot5007 canon. He also teams up with vader on multiple occasions
UNLIMITED *POOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWEEEERRRRRRR*
*Bass Boosted Lightining Intensifies*
-volcanoes start blowing-
Hello me in the past.
@@emperorpalpatine4013
You also dumb in the future, idiot.
there are many emperors here
Rey isn't really that strong at all... I feel like your not going deep enough into the scaling. She didn't have any notable fights before palpatine, it was mostly just wonky feats that show her "palpatine blood" (ex. The unwaranted sith lightning, her lifting piles of boulders with no previous feats, her resisting a trained kylo ren when she didnt even know what a "Jedi" really was). Even her fight againdt palpatine, she was getting negged when she had one lightsaber, (windu only needed 1 to combat against palps lighting, yoda nona because his force strength and defense is so prominent) she only succeeded when she got the 2nd saber. Plus, if Palp actually dueled her with the intent to kill sith vs jedi... Her skills would not be able to match at all... Just poor storytelling.
Couldn't say it better myself. She is average at best no way is she stronger then Luke ROTJ or after, jedi knight anakin and vader, Palpatine, Even count dooku
I hate the character Rey too but she killed the strongest sith in the movie series so she is no doubt stronger then most
@@hello-46 plot armor and the movie was made by Disney
@@hello-46 dude she didnt really kill palp herself, she basically just reflected his own power onto him, so basically palps fried himself 💀 Rey did literally nothing shes weak af
Mace fought against episode 3 Palpatine, whilst Rey fought against dyad Palpatine.
If you didn’t know, dyad Palpatine is FAR more powerful than any other version of his character.
Darth nihilus: **laughs in Minecraft enchantment table**
Honestly, The dude Consumes Fucking planets
Abaloth: "Hold my beer"
Nihilus is fucking broken, he will give Jar Jar and Gonk a run for their money
This list is doodoo
This is all canon character with *canon feats.* There are NO canon feats of Nihilus to go by of... Are people seriously this dense?
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One of the strongest telekinetic things indeed
But Vader, in Fallen Order, stopped a huge amount of water, deep in the ocean. Considering the mass of water, that was also a crazy strong thing.
That's a good point that amount of water would be equivalent to thousands of tons
@@realone4993 it would way more than that
I mean, he only has to equal the water pressure flowing in, when the area of the hole wasn't that massive? It's impressive, don't get me wrong, but not 'thousands of tons' impressive, let alone 'way more than that' - the hole/the area Vader held back simply wasn't that big. There's only so much water that can fit and flow in that amount of space.
It's just not Vader's best stuff, is all I'm saying. He does other shit in Fallen Order that's probably more impressive than the reality of that, if you understand what it entails.
@@naingmon
If you don't know physics don't feel like you HAVE to comment.
P=F/S
F is the force which is basically
F=m.g
m is the mass of water, g the gravitationnal acceleration (around 10m/s^2)
m=V*p
V being the Volume of water above him
p being the volumic mass of water (1kg/dm^3 or 1t/m^3)
Also, since P=F/S, the smaller the "area of the hole" the greater the pressure gets
Ccl:
P=[(V.1000)*10]/S
S being maybe 10m^2 max
V being like 1 419 000 000 m^3 (on Earth)
Which gives a pressure of 1 419 000 000 000 Pa, which is 14 190 000 bars of pressure (Earth's atmosphere is 1.013bar on average)
So you're telling us a guy who handles over 14 millions times Earth's atmosphere isn't "that strong" ?
@@saturapt3229 Fair enough on the first bit, I'll admit my physics is rusty (should've had my head on straight), but I have to question your result.
I don't particularly understand where you got V from. If 'on earth' is meant to be 'total water on earth' then that's...well, wrong, firstly. There's about that many cubic *kilometers* of water on Earth. So cubic meters should be 1.419x10^18 m^3 (which leads to even more absurd results).
Secondly...I'm not sure why you'd use the total volume of water on Earth there.
Like, just intuitively, 1.42 terapascals to hold back some water seems...really, really fishy. That's just an magnitude or two short of a nuclear detonation, at point blank. Heck, correcting for your unit conversions (or lack thereof, if I understand where you got V from), you're looking at pressures greater than *the core of the sun* by over fifty thousand times!
That's...obviously not right. At all.
Like sure, there's a formula there. But that doesn't mean the given one actually represents the reality of the situation. If you have a scientific formula and workings that yields absurd results, like say...a coffee table weighs 50,000 tons. You don't confidently assert that's right. You check it against your intuition, go back, and see where you could've gone wrong.
Honestly I think the fact that in your model *the entire planet's* supply of water is somehow relevant at all to a single hole should be ringing alarm bells.
I appreciate how unbiased this is. Like yeah you may not like the Sequels but whatever, Rey and Kylo still did some crazy shit
Honestly I'd put them lower because of skill woth lightsabers. They barely showed any technique throughout the movies unlike other characters.
Note: i mean the weaker forms of the 2.
Yeah, this is about power-tier not the storytelling of the sequel trilogy. The plot might be an ass for some but there's no doubt that by the end of Rise of Skywalker Rey is the most powerful surviving force-sensitive in the galaxy especially that the dyad had become one in her after Ben's death.
@@mightyactionx9391 i mean she’s the only force user left so how couldn’t she be the strongest
@@georgbergsten6050 That's not something certain.
@@malcolmjenkins3585 agreed
In an interview, George Lucas said that Anakin would have been twice as powerful as Palpatine, if he hadn’t been burned alive and had his limbs cut off.
Actually Jar-Jar is god tier and that's the only thing I'd change. I mean it's so obvious he would've died 100 fold if he was just any gungan. Hell, even Yoda would have trouble with some of the feats he pulls off without even trying, for example the scene where he drops from one side of a balcony in the prequels, then immediately is shown falling from the other side, as if he executed an extremely quick wall run. I argue that he's more than just force-sensitive, he bends the world around him to fit his actions. A culmination of the living force, similar to Anakin yet much more powerful.
He's not in God tier...
...he needs a tier of his own, a tier above God tier.
Beyond omega level
Darth Palagius being able to create life with the force probably deserves a spot on God tier
Same with Glup Shitto and Revan
He actually couldn't
Well, in Legends he tried to and then the force got so pissed off that the force created Anakin as a big "FUCK YOU" to the Sith's
In canon they make it clear that the sith now are the strongest ever so I feel that kind of wipes plageus off the list.
@@tsarbomba827 OMG GLUP SHITTO IS BACK
@TH-camUser true but through the generations Palpatine grew immensely powerful, by rise of Skywalker he was way stronger than prequel era sidious. All of the powerful characters grew alot more powerful in those three years, let alone the decades since. Look at anakin, obi wan, maul and ahsoka. That's not even taking into consideration the power Amp anakin got when he became vader (in disney canon) and Palpatine still instills fear in him.
Me Seeing Supreme Leader Kylo Ren above RoTS Rey: Good, good
Also me at the end of the video seeing a new Rey in God Tier: This is outrageous, it's unfair, how can you have years of training and be destroyed by a girl with so little training.
Yeah lol, but that’s only her powered by all the jedi.
Ana karakter ?
@@weeaboo-warrior powered by- wha?
@@RED-sl2le Did you not watch the movie?
@Lyxzen Rey being Creamy Sheev's granddaughter doesn't just give you the power from the jump. She should've been beaten before any training and then work for her powers.
General Grievous is godly in “Clone Wars” (2003) They did him so bad in the “Star Wars: The Clone Wars” and “Revenge of the Sith” made him a coward
He was a cool coward
Him: chewbacca at padawan tier and han and lando at youngling tier
me playing vader in battlefront 2: how can i be beaten by such individuals so low power
lmfaooooo i be those individuals 😂
Horrible list, you didn’t put the gonk droid at number one god tier
gonk droid uses cuteness to trick enemys, then shoots them
That would not be fair to the others because the gonk droid would win
G O N K
Vader does tons of stuff in the stories that isn’t given justice in the shows or movies. Not to mention Plo Koon is one of the best all around jedi during the clone wars and mace windu is a master at fighting.
Personally, I think Vader in Canon should be higher. Hear me out he literally went against the will of the force and ripped an inter-dimensional barrier in space-time. He defeated an Old republic Sith Lord and used Red Force lightning to fry the Emperor. He also resurrected Padme from the dead while in this state. These are just a few feats and personally, I think they are better than Rey and Dyiad Palpatine's feats. What do you think?
What about the droid attack on the wookies
😂😂
Return of the King
It is critical we send an attack group there
😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
*Talks about jar jar*
“What he lacks in skill, he makes up for in luck”
Sorry, did you mean “what he lacks in skill, he makes up for in *Sith lord* “
A *SITH LORD*!?
U mean shit lord
If he would reveal himself he would just toy with god tier palp. He is just superior
Pong Krell is vastly underrated. He showed more foresight than the entire counsel to know they were being deceived. He also showed that the execution order of the Jedi would not have been successful against him. He was a extremely accomplished general and showed amazing strength and speed with his double bladed sabers. His force push rivaled the very best.
wasn’t enough foresight to keep him from being turned into a hashtag, lol
@@marion907 LMAO
He's still a horrible person
OP is right. I think Krell would have plunger raped Greivious. He might not have beaten anyone in the high master tier but he'd have been a hell of a problem for them.
Pong Krell is basically an organic grievous. If the guy learned some self control and mastered soresu, I believe he could actually give Vader some problems…
Only using movie and tv series feats, Vader is high master.
Using Eu feats, is grandmaster tier.
Plo Koon is one of the most powerful jedi in the whole jedi history only falling behind yoda, mace and anakin. In fact, he is one of the most powerful force user being able to use electric judgement and is the only jedi that defeated yoda in a lightsaber duel. He is super underrated!
Canon?
@@kokoanka he uses clips and facts about other characters that isn’t canon aswell in this vid, so don’t see why that should stop plo koon
Plus he live to 385 years and still seemed young when the average lifespan of his species was only 65 years
I agree, but in scaling you have to base power assessments on feats, where Plo Koon doesn’t have many to base him on like Anakin, Asohka, or Obi Wan. If a future series or canon material showed him battling and beating better characters he would probably be higher. Anything else would be speculation and could make this a list not based on evidence.
Luke is actually more powerful than any of these jedi
Palpatine is at such a high tier because he knows the tragedy of Darth plagueis the wise
It's admirable how neutral this is.
Luke could literally once sustain a black hole while simultaneously pushing enemy spacecrafts in to it, he brought down several 80- 80s by using the force and could remove entire spaceships from view with a single thought, but ok.
That’s legends, not canon.
That was luke in legends and I hope he has the potential for that in canon
Unpopular Opinion:
Count Dooku should easily be 'Grand Master Tier' on this list. He's the only person to be Padawan to both the greatest light-side user (Yoda) and dark-side user (Sidious) in one lifetime. He was a prodigy Jedi for 70 years, gifted in telekinesis, teacher of Jedi Knights, and it has been stated he would regularly best Mace Window in sparring training. He was the absolute master of the form 2 fighting style (Makashi) which is designed for lightsaber duelling, and he had mastered it for decades. He was able to fight Yoda to a standstill, after being fatigued from defeating Obi-Wan & Anakin. 70 years of knowledge and experience in the Jedi order, student to Yoda himself, and then he decides to spend the rest of his life learning about the dark arts from Sidious. Including force lightning, and collecting dark artefactual enhancements. he is one of the only people, in all of star wars, to have a complete understanding of both the light & dark side of the force.
People who say he lost to Anakin should remember.
One, Sidious never wanted Dooku to kill Anakin and he was under strict orders not to do so in their duel.
Two, even if you don't believe that, it was a 1v2 and these are two of the best Jedi's of that time period, it doesn't matter if Dooku easily destroyed Obi-Wan and it became a 1v1 with Anakin. The duel still started off as a 1v2, hardly a fair fight.
And three, It was pretty clear Dooku was trying to draw out Anakin's rage in their fight. I suspect if Dooku really wanted to kill Anakin he would've done so, considering how easily he dealt with Obi-Wan, and Obi-Wan was able to defeat Anakin. So it's hard to believe someone like Dooku, who can fight on even grounds with Yoda (and defeat Mace Window in sparring) loses to Anakin.
In conclusion, Count Dooku is one of (if not) the most underrated Jedi/Siths when it comes to power and knowledge. I would personally consider him to be not only 'Grand Master Tier' but only behind Sidious & Yoda in rank. Considering those were both his masters, and he has far more experience than everybody else on that tier. An argument could be made for Old Luke being above him in rank, but no one else on that tier. Vader would lose to force lightning, Snoke is a poor man's Count Dooku, old Obi-Wan would lose for a third time to Dooku, and It's already been stated Mace has lost to Dooku in spar training.
In my opinion you have criminally misplaced Dooku on this tier list.
Agreed. There's a few boo-boo's here..
I was about to comment this. Dooku is underrated and I was a little dissapointed with his placement.
What your saying is true, but this video is about feats, he never did anything crazy powerful
Not to mention dooku was also well out of his prime
Whilst i agree with the basic premise of Dooku should he higher, he was known to tire fast in fights due to his age.
Also, sparring isn't comparable to an actual fight, I struggle to believe Dooku would have done half as well as Windu against palp.
There was also the force vision in the clone wars that showed Dooku getting man handled by anakin.
It's so painful to see Rey being so high in this list. She's just not a very likeable character.
It's a shame Disney made her a mary su
completly agree
This video isn’t a popularity contest it’s a ranking of powers and Rey as unloveable as she is is super over powered
@@terry10tnj yeah she’s a Mary Sue
Yeah rey is easy to dislike but unfortunately she is one of the strongest characters in star wars
One of the few lists I’ve seen that aren’t opinion based
This is still opinion based lol, I have many disagreements and there’s a lot of stuff here that is just straight wrong
@@StarWarsDecrypted what is just straight wrong?
@@weeaboo-warrior well we’ve already established Bendus placement is wrong and seeing as it’s canon a lot of the other stuff I mentioned might not count
@@StarWarsDecrypted ay ay don’t forget Rey being god tier
@@StarWarsDecrypted she should be mid night
Well done. Good list, straight facts my friend. Even when working with Disneys mess
Thanks
That's a nice list. I don't agree with all the placements but I respect the time it took to make it.
Facts
Giga chad
It's ranked for the money that a movie made - the "best" in the title should be changed, 'cause making a lot of money doesn't mean to be better
Jar jar is a more powerful than the god tier
@@nicolaswithoutah1272nah padme is, She tanked hits from the chosen one in bed
“Formally Darth now Just Maul” what a title lol, funny thing is he actually said that lol
Damn it's almost as if that's the point
Plo koon needs to be higher, still the best list I have seen yet though!
Exactly! Also shaak ti is apparently weaker then kanan she was literally the most powerful jedi in the temple during order 66 which is why Vader hunted her down specially
He is also the only Jedi to ever beat Yoda in a duel. (Due to his fighting style and his luck). In fact, he used s Variant of Form V called Xi'an, perfect against multiple opponents, and when you're fighting Yoda, it looks like you are fighting 3 Jedi Masters, plus, Plo Koon was also a master of Form IV (The Form Yoda uses), so this combination is perfect against Yoda.
@@danielabellachioma9480 he was also the only jedi at the time able to use force judgement which is force lightning but using light side force
Eeth koth being above plo koon (and even ki adi mundi) is a joke.
I would go as far as to say he's evenly matched, if not stronger, than Kit Fisto who is my favorite jedi. Really did him dirty with that ranking considering he also has force judgement in his arsenal.
You forgot one feat from Palpatine: he returned, somehow.
It's quit good, but Grogu should be on God Tier with his cuteness noone can defeat him
barring that one stormtrooper that punched grogu in the face
@@yeetmaster-eb1xq That's above god Tier then
Kylo Ren killed him.
@@Сайтамен What?
Although a lot of the placements I agree with, I’d put Canon Vader as number one because of that scene in Fallen Order when he’s holding back all that water, which would weigh a fuck ton. Also him opening that rift between the living and dead realms is mighty impressive.
I actually debunked the calculation feat with him holding back the water in one of my other videos. To open the rift he needed the power of the castle so that doesn’t really count.
So he’s more powerful than himself in his prime?
@@Deathmare235 I’m not sure exactly what you are asking.
@@Deathmare235 what?
Size matters not tho
Who else agrees with me that Cody and Rex should be higher up
I mean they rated higher than Padawan ahsoka. That seems fair.
This whole list was all over
They do definitely although to be honest this list is pretty far off.
Me and who else agrees me Kenobi yoda and Luke should be god tier
Compared to everyone else no
He thought he could hide that Jar Jar is actually the most powerful Sith lord
Two things. I’d say Yoda is actually stronger than Palpatine. Especially in his prime. Obviously he wouldn’t have as much experience or wisdom but he’s hundreds of years old. He’s arguably the greatest duelist and also the strongest Jedi. I also wonder if you’d add theoretical characters on the list. Specifically, Darth Yoda, as he was shown in the comics and Dooku said if he went to the dark side he would surpass Sidious and any other sith.
Even though yoda said dark side doesn't make you stronger i must agree if he embrace the dark side he will surpass sidious. But without it I'm pretty sure prime sidious is still stronger than any version of yoda, especially in legends since many said that palpy probably one of the strongest force user in sw
If we are including theoretical characters we should have darth gonk droid and darth jar jar
no yodas not
What about anakin if he never became darth vader? What if his full potential was reached being a grandmaster jedi? And what if he did become vader, but never burnt/damaged in any way to affect his full potential, which is stronger in dark side If I'm not mistaken? And what if luke with his full power became a sith? I'm asking this because I always forget the scales, I guess vader was supposed to be twice more powerful than Sidious.
Yoda, Mace and Vader should be in God tier.
I personally think you should have given Kit Fisto more credit. Not everyone realizes the brilliance of the duel he had with Grievous. Like how Obi Wan was not just *a* master of form 3, (ironclad defense) he was *the* master of form 3, Kit Fisto was *the* master of form 1 (basic, unpredictable, raw, bad for 1 on 1). Kit Fisto, being the smart and crafty bastard that he was, ignored the fact that the four lightsabers he was contending with were attached to the same enemy. He split them up in his head and thought of each arm as an individual enemy, thus allowing his mastery of Form 1 to shine. He made it so that he was almost fighting a group of four people at once, which is just brilliant. When he cuts off Grievous’ hand and gets two lightsabers, you can kind of see him change his thinking. With the two lightsabers, Fisto now sees a group of three that he’s fighting, and is doing that with both hands. Green man= genius, change my mind
@Jett Lucas Hayes I disagree. While what you said about Form 1 is true and Palps got right up to him, that isn’t the only reason he lost. There’s plenty of reasons Fisto lost to Palpatine. We often forget that Palpatine was a master of all 7 of the lightsaber forms, not to mention how much more powerful he was in the force. Fisto was lucky he survived as long as he did.
The only reason Kit Fisto died so fast is because of lazyness
Kit fisto blocked a couple of strikes from arguably the most powerful sith lord ever
You all forget the reason the 3 Jedi got killed so quickly was because of the scream, that did some crazy shit to their minds
Ahh yes I'm on mid master
Soon I will be on God tier
Soon
Maybe with enough lightsabers in your collection.
I just need more hands
I sub but I'm only to see me at God tier
@@generalgrievous9165 I also belive we both should be god tier
@@Bang_JMS we must
Thanks for hearting and responding to my comments I appreciate it
No problem
The thing is Rose Tico is hated more than jar jar the secret sith lord.
Fuck no
@@wormie077 Jar Jar is a 1000× better than Rose.
@@d.k.sovereign8642 No.
@@patrickweidmann4626 yes
@@patrickweidmann4626 yes
Great list! Although I would put the father, son and daughter at the top, followed by grandmaster luke and palpatine. And obviously if anakin reached his full potential he’d be number one no doubt
Is abaloth not canon or?
@@joemama_6009 She's legends, and would definitely be the strongest no question. Personally, I like the fact she is non-canon because I don't the really like the concept
This is surprisingly fair.
This is the most accurate and reasonable tier list of sw canon characters I've ever seen! Keep it up warrior
Thanks!
@@h2o_struckmars Explain. I bet it will just be me debunking you using legends arguments or you not watching the video and understanding which versions of the characters I was using.
@@h2o_struckmars Ok if you were just joking that’s fine. And Grievous being above Savage is reasonable. I think it could go either way.
Thanks for giving Dooku the respect he deserves. He definitely is more powerful than Maul
I have to admit my first thought on him being put below enraged Anakin was that shouldn't count as its made pretty clear at the book and even hinted at in the movie he threw the fight. "I was promised leniency!" He thought he'd put up a good fight, lose and his master would "take him prisoner" never realizing that Sidious intended to goad Anakin into killing him as part of making him his new apprentice. Then again I do prefer the books in some cases such as the arrest of Palpatine scene. In the movie he kills 3 jedi in seconds then struggles against Windu while in the book he actually manipulates them. Not pulling out his lightsabre till he's gotten a telepath to lower his guard so he can read his thoughts to "prove his innocence" and actually fights awhile against Fisto (I think) and Windu before killing Fisto.
I disagree. I‘d say he is around as powerful as Maul
@@mightyshady1016 I agree, Maul was really good in clone wars.
Maul is stronger
@@tobipanda908 On the other hand Maul really failed because of his own arrogance toying with Obi Wan and after that he grew more experienced and knowledgeable whereas Doku was on a doward slide due to age from his first apperance. I'd rather like to see the two at their prime in a no holds barred fight.
it's so fair and unbiased. It feels so agreeable.
There should be a tier called “Legends” for the powerful characters that aren’t canon like Revan and Starkiller
And Thrawn. C'mon, this guy destroyed an entire Trade Federation fleet with 3 ships and took 0 losses, he doesn't deserve that low knight ranking.
Starkiller isn't as strong as everyone think he is.
And the extra powerful grand master Luke
I know they aren't cannon but isn't there a deleted scene from the clone wars of revan and I think another sith from the game showing up? so technically they might be cannon???
@@waterlily7075 yeah I think there is at least one with revan and bane
Jar Jar is obviously a God Tier character. His true strength just hasn’t been shown yet
Obviously
We need to stop this stupid theory that Palpatine wasn't beaten by Mace Windu we know that he achieved shatter point and legitimately beat him...
That was the explanation in legends, but even in legends it was stated he was about to get overpowered by Sidious' lightning. So in legends, he did win the duel, but he would have actually lost the fight. In canon we don't know exactly what happened.
I think you mean he achieved Vapaad or however you spell it. Shatterpoint was a passive ability Mace had, it couldn’t be achieved like Vapaad could.
@@blackbirdgaming8147 Yeah ok whatever my point still stands regardless.
yeah especially since george lucas said mace windu won.
@@BiigFigJ He never actually said that.
16:40 Ahsoka actually beat an Inquisitor without a lightsaber in the Ahsoka novel, literally just grabbed the dude's lightsaber and pushed him off a cliff
Pretty sure she made the inquisitor lightsaber blow up in his face _literally_
I think it would have been worth splitting Kanan into two like you did with others. After he got blinded he got ALOT more powerful
i think kanan is mid or high master for me for season 3 of rebels
3:46 Give him the respect he deserves, he didn't just take down "a bunch" he took down DOZENS
I cant tell you enough how REFRESHING it is to see a non-insanely opinion based Star Wars list. Nothing wrong with having opinions, but I feel like us Star Wars fans can get so defensive and wrapped up in what WE think is “best”. This is so objective and based on the source material, and I love it man. Great list!!!
Miles Martin Thanks! I tried to be as objective as possible.
Its hella inaccurate though
@@BENNEBOOM What is "hella Inaccurate" about it?
@@weeaboo-warrior Nightmother Talzin being ranked lower than Vos, Dooku, Maul, Kylo and Rey is just not accurate. Also Barris Ofee ranked higher than Shaak Ti. Padawan Kenobi ranked higher than Ki Adi and Plo Koon. Grogu at tier 1, Snoke rated higher than Anakin and Mace Windu and being in the same tier as Palpatine. Rey higher than Yoda and Vader and Mace and so on, when the only reason she beat Palpatine was because she got help from all the other Jedi that ever excisted. Its just not very accurate. There is more but this is what I came up with on the spot.
@@BENNEBOOM Judging by your comment you didn’t actually watch the video and listen to my explanations. I said Talzin could be stronger but lacked combat feats. Shaak ti and the other masters were only placed that low because they lacked feats in canon. Grogu is only that low because this came out before season 2. And the version of Rey that is that high is the one powered by all the Jedi. Rey without that power was put in the mid master tier.
With so many characters, I'm surprised I agree with so much of your list. Obviously, I don't agree with everything, but for nearly the entire video I was like "yeah this makes sense".
I guessing full potential anakin with all his limbs would be above everyone in god tier
yeah he would
Duh
Yessir
I mean he was the chosen one After all
Well, yes. To the first part at least. Whether he has all his limbs or not wouldn't even matter though. His potential remains the same regardless of his limbs.
I love this video cause its not even bias cause of how much people like the character
Btw when Palpatine lifts his hands and the ships rise out of the water he was showing Kylo a vision through the force not actually lifting them. It explains this in the book
That males much more sense
Makes sense but you shouldn’t have to read the book to understand 🤣
@@ShakaHapa That's true
The movies should be able to stand on their own without having to pay to buy a fricking book.
@@reedplaysgames or a visual dictionary and junior novel and comic series and listen to the behind the scenes as well
Another impressive force use by Vader is in Fallen Order where he holds back tons of water. Like one of Game Theorists co theorist weighed it simply by measuring the distance from the surface to where he was standing, and apparently it's the strongest Vader is seen. I'm not sure how true that is though, you'll just have to take my word.
Legends:
-overpowering Starkiller who pulled down a star destroyer
-survived the colaps of a building while his armor was destroyed
-should technically scale above or at least be relative to Naga Sadow wielding solar flared as there have been Vision of his power in the time of the ancient Sith and Sidious is stated to be the most powerful Sith of all time by George Lukas
-is stated to be at 80 percent of palpatines level when dark empire palpatine creates force storms allowing to transport 17 kilometer long Ships across the galaxy and needed all Jedi to have ever lived to keep him locked in the neverworlds of the force
@@awakeneddio6012 Ok...
Very good list, I love how you avoid overestimating or underestimating someone just because of their rank.
I'm sad revan isn't on here. Would have been interesting to see how he'd rank 3 times. From Jedi to sith to Jedi again
Let's be real, peak Revan would solo this whole list lmao
No need for a list.
@@vegterble Kid haven’t seen the real star wars movies. And dosen’t know nothing about Revan. I think even Kylo Ren is better. And he isn’t even real. Because if he was, he would be in a movie right now.
@@birgerbus7684 Jesse what the fuck are you talking about
@@vegterbleRevan would be nerfed heavily if he was in live action. Literally every Canon Star wars Character is ridiculously more powerful in Legends. Take Luke for example.
*sees Coleman Trebor on Low Knight Tier *
*It’s treason, then.*
😭😭
Who, a surprise star wars tier list? Nice
This is a great video! I don't agree with everything, but I just love how justified and reasonable you manage to do this. It inspired me to make similar lists for other fandoms!
Let me know when they are made and I’ll check them out.
@@weeaboo-warrior Okay, but do you know anything about homestuck?
@@higztv1166 No, I’ve never heard of it before.
Darth Nihilus casually killing and feeding on entire planets deserves a God tier