You know what? I see you have way too many comments about the fuel pump, me being the last to comment. I wanted to apologize for that, you don't need any negative comments. After seeing most of your videos, I think you have learned a lot with fabrication, and many other aspects of a rebuild, no matter how involved. I've restored cars for most of my life. Too old now. From full rotisserie restorations with 4000 plus hours. Good luck Steve.
@Rob Roy it does suck I'm 59 and disabled but never say die! That's why as a community we should help each other out if were close by. I help my buddy's and they help me it's the only way!
Wow! Glad the fire extinguisher mystery was solved. What a beast! Holy cow when you were getting on it that thang was pulling with some authority. Love seeing it come together. Keep it coming.
Man, glad to see that noise you had is gone with the new pinion bearing. I laughed when you found the "new" noise was a fire extinguisher. I had the same thing happen with my Dart at the drag strip this year. I took off and heard a terrible bang in the rear of the vehicle. I was sick, turned out to be a camping chair I left in the trunk. Catastrophe avoided. Car looks and sounds great man.
Dude! Congrats, that maiden drive with no problems feels so good! Nice to see the valiant get some love! My dad has a '67 2 door and I have a '69 4 door that I recently got back on the road as well after 3 year garage resto and that first drive is amazing! I went through 3 tanks of gas in a day 😁 son it take a Mopar to catch a Mopar!
@@TheGasTap yeah man, the 69 is a beautiful car, I get a lot of grief about why would I bother but I love it. Only a 318 in it but I've always wondered about turbos on the old Mopars, I'm super excited to see how your beauty does!
Ya know one thing that would tighten up the steering is go with a 16 to 1 fast ratio manual steering box. Available 67 to 69 in A bodies only. It will steer like a truck but goes from like 6 turns lock to lock to 4 turns if it's the typical 24 to 1 box almost all manual A bodies had. My Dart was a Western Sport Special with the light duty v8 drive train originally. However it came with 340 spec torsion bars and leaf springs, formula S 14x5.5 wheels, and 16 to 1 manual steering box. I later added factory front and rear sway bars. I always thought it was hard to steer but it had great road feel and reacts and turns way faster then the stock /6 69 Dart I got later for my sister. I had never driven a normal option manual steer Dart and when I was test driving it I turned it the amount my car needed to make a right onto the street and almost hit a pole. That's when I found out my car had some weird special options and took half the steering input to do something 😎 I could drive the 6 car with a finger when tires were aired up and moving, my car I could drive with one hand, but definitely not when parking it... No matter what box it has a good alignment should make a world of difference as long as everything is tight.
So cool! Yeah, it looks like the car really wants to leap out of the hole. Lol you must’ve thought a leaf spring was coming through the floor with that noise!
Is this a performance fuel pump? Why is this noise ? I suggest checking at the fuel pump to see for a nice 14v of power and also a good grounding while the engine is running(voltage drop test) if possible. I had the same noise and finally a connector has melted.
im gonna be one of the few people that doesnt comment about the F.P., so lmao, the fire extinguisher sounds like something id get worked up over. especially after 4 of the 16 lunati lifters i put in my dart collapsed. i put howards in the other day, and so far so good. every little sound has me jittery now.
I drove a 69 like it for ten years and constantly replaced front suspension parts trying to keep it aligned , sounds good, could use a bigger cam but sounds good
I don't care how much noise! I just want to drive the little a body keep it up you'll get the pump to be quiet sooner or later and the turbo sounds great!
Might as well throw some junk tires on the back and enter the burnout call out fray going on you tube right now, get some more subs to the channel! :-)
congrats......first drive around the block is a success........i beleive you can drive up/down the driveway so many times..check and double check stuff......but then you need to go 5 minutes/10 minutes/20 minutes from home.....i have rang a mate and said if i am not at your place in 15....come look for me....cheers
Looking good you've done a great job. The lines of that body are just classic. Was it my imagination or did the car seem to bounce a bit. By the way, it was nice to see the little lady put in a fleeting appearance lol.
I think i love he fact your car has that steering wheel. Thats a very cool, sought after wheel but it's on such a plain jane car. Not a Road runner or Charger
Awesome. Good job so far. Dont put a cage in it if its 90% street car.....you'll regret it. Find a dyno shop and get the baseline sorted out on 7psi. Dont push it over 14psi without 100octane....5gallons of 93 + 5 gallons of Toluene = 105 octane if VP C12 isnt available locally.
I’ve had good results with mixing torco high octane accelerator. You can mix your own high octane fuel, but watch that stuff as those are some nasty chemicals in there.
It isnt widely known.....but in the 80s Turbo F1 cars ran on a Toluene/Xylene based race fuel up to 40psi and 1500hp.....and had a 114/116 octane rating...... I had a DSM that I needed 116 octane for and couldnt get it locally....a Petroleum Engineer told me about Sherwin William's Mineral Spirits (pure Toluene) and I supplemented 93 octane with it at 70/30, 60/40, and 50/50....up to 28psi with no problems.
You mentioned the car is bouncy , did you change the super stock Springs because this segment in the rear is 1 inch longer and it pins the shackles against the back of the frame and in essence it becomes solid, I've encountered this many times and it's easily overlooked
Every time I hear that pump I see the scene from Dumb and Dumber "you want to hear the most annoying sound in the world" sounds exactly like that pump LMFAO
How much boost is it set for? I’d be pretty careful not to run very much boost right off the bat (maybe like 5 psi or so)on pump gas because detonation on those cast pistons will be bad news quickly. You may also want to get a turbo blanket because it will melt the paint off your hood and accidentally burn you if your under the hood with a hot engine. Those turbo exhaust turbines get red hot. Lookin good so far.
Cars like these are the reason ill never own a modern car, classic American muscle has always caught my attention since i was a kid I remember at car shows id ignore modern cars & run straight to the classics im 21 now i own a 3rd gen and after im finish building it im gonna try to get a Duster or a Dart
where is that fuel pump mounted inside or outside? I couldn't handle that whine in my ear I'd find a way to muffle it . I'd mount it inside a sound deading box that allows air flow or something. that pump sound like Floyd doing his most annoying sound in the world - dumb and dumber .Other then that awsome job and glad to see it rocking down the highway 😎🤘🏁 ✌
@@TheGasTap ok cool . sorry didnt want to sound like a smart ass that wasent my intention ✌. if you get a chance check out my channel. its not much . its just me and a smart phone doing videos when time and weather permits 😎✌
I’ve heard others complain about them. It’s a Bosch 044 replica. Summit, AEM and a bunch of other companies copy them. I’ve watched some videos and seems half of the ppl get loud ones and others don’t. 🤷🏻♂️
Front end alignments are SOO easy on A body. If you need ANY advice reply back and I’d be happy to set you up to avoid paying for a half assed alignment. Not sure where you are located, but there are very few shops that can do alignments on anything old. I can not only teach you how, but be 100% confident on doing an alignment on any car you have. It’s really simple with very basic understanding. I’ve been building cars for over 40 years. Check out the dart my brother and I have almost completed on my channel to see my work. Not a video guy... so be gentle with my lack of photography skills...
I've done a few hundred alignments in my day and I tried to do the alignment on the Valiant with a level and string but without plates under the front tires I cant get the suspension to settle after adjustments. I have a friend with a shop that has plenty of experience. I'm taking it there on Tuesday.
Getting the car to settle is probably toughest part. Sounds like you got a good plan in order. Here in Denver the car scene really suffers... Anyway, if you need help feel free to let me know. Wished I had found your project sooner!
Fellas,, this car has been around for 50 years,, there's absolutely nothing on it or in it that you can break , that can't be fixed or replaced . Short of burning it down.. there's an old mantra for the 60s.. that still holds water today. Buy it- Build it- Beat it- Break it- Fix it.. Repeat as necessary.. The car is made by Chrysler,, Not Tiffany's of New York.. Slap it around a little bit,, Or it'll never respect you... A little bit of fuel pump whine is acceptable,, but that's just ridiculous...
BTW I'm building a Hemi 265 to turbo to put in my Aussie Charger. I'm in South Africa but,as it's an Aussie engine, here's my mates turbo setup to give you an idea: th-cam.com/video/c9xNYBHXwEo/w-d-xo.html
Think twice before making test runs on the street with out seat belts. I have had bad things happen to friends through the years. Motor sounds good . Jerry Gulley gulleyperformancecenter.com
all you sissy's whining about the fuel pump>>its a hot rod..dont need 'tunes'or 'ear buds' ,,its mechanical fun,entertainment ..i luv the sound as it ensures you its working as fueling is critical .. it's suppose to be a bit rude.. if thats your take away from this car..cleary not the hobby for you ..try a civic : o
You know what? I see you have way too many comments about the fuel pump, me being the last to comment. I wanted to apologize for that, you don't need any negative comments. After seeing most of your videos, I think you have learned a lot with fabrication, and many other aspects of a rebuild, no matter how involved. I've restored cars for most of my life. Too old now. From full rotisserie restorations with 4000 plus hours. Good luck Steve.
Thank you.
@Rob Roy it does suck I'm 59 and disabled but never say die! That's why as a community we should help each other out if were close by. I help my buddy's and they help me it's the only way!
@Rob Roy hope GA is better for you I'm in NJ any thing past the east coast is better!
That fuel pump would drive me nuts
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I LOVE IT
waaa
Wow! Glad the fire extinguisher mystery was solved. What a beast! Holy cow when you were getting on it that thang was pulling with some authority. Love seeing it come together. Keep it coming.
I’m excited to rip it
David has a very powerful mustache.
So..... You noticed too! :
Man them wheels really make that car!!
Getting it a little further away from home.... And I love the sound of turbos !!!!!
Thanks for the video!
Had a 72 Valiant, keep a spare ballast resistor too
You really need to go with an in tank pump
It’s hard to watch the video with the buzzin. I know it sucks to throw more money at the project, but damn that pump is killer annoying.
For real. I use Quantum and Kinso pumps in all my stuff. 450 pump for like $30.
can you add the link?
@@TheGasTap on my website "itsnotalljunk.com" it's under the fuel section
@@TheGasTap I even have a video on how to swap old style fuel injected mopar tanks to the 255.
Awesome! All the years are worth it!
One must harness the power of the push broom mustache.
Lol
I'd be more concerned about that fuel pump. :-D
waaa
Glad to see how far this build has came. Great job man
Beautiful! I’ve enjoyed following your channel. Great work man!
Congrats Alex. This was a long time coming for sure. Happy for you buddy!!
Man, glad to see that noise you had is gone with the new pinion bearing. I laughed when you found the "new" noise was a fire extinguisher. I had the same thing happen with my Dart at the drag strip this year. I took off and heard a terrible bang in the rear of the vehicle. I was sick, turned out to be a camping chair I left in the trunk. Catastrophe avoided. Car looks and sounds great man.
😆
Outstanding! Another big step forward for Mr. Jones🏁✊Mopar
Cool car. I love those old valiants. I wish I could grow a mustache as badass as yours.👍👍
How loud is that fuel pump in person?
pretty bad
Dude! Congrats, that maiden drive with no problems feels so good! Nice to see the valiant get some love! My dad has a '67 2 door and I have a '69 4 door that I recently got back on the road as well after 3 year garage resto and that first drive is amazing! I went through 3 tanks of gas in a day 😁 son it take a Mopar to catch a Mopar!
That’s awesome!!!
@@TheGasTap yeah man, the 69 is a beautiful car, I get a lot of grief about why would I bother but I love it. Only a 318 in it but I've always wondered about turbos on the old Mopars, I'm super excited to see how your beauty does!
Good test drive, takes a little time to work out all the little bugs. Looks great.
Awesome! That fuel pump has got to go!
So awesome watching the progress on this, every video makes me want to get my truck done sooner.
The first real test drive is always nerve wracking. Looking good, thanks for sharing.
Happy for you big nervous smile I know the feeling sounds great 👍🏻
Ya know one thing that would tighten up the steering is go with a 16 to 1 fast ratio manual steering box. Available 67 to 69 in A bodies only. It will steer like a truck but goes from like 6 turns lock to lock to 4 turns if it's the typical 24 to 1 box almost all manual A bodies had. My Dart was a Western Sport Special with the light duty v8 drive train originally. However it came with 340 spec torsion bars and leaf springs, formula S 14x5.5 wheels, and 16 to 1 manual steering box. I later added factory front and rear sway bars. I always thought it was hard to steer but it had great road feel and reacts and turns way faster then the stock /6 69 Dart I got later for my sister. I had never driven a normal option manual steer Dart and when I was test driving it I turned it the amount my car needed to make a right onto the street and almost hit a pole. That's when I found out my car had some weird special options and took half the steering input to do something 😎
I could drive the 6 car with a finger when tires were aired up and moving, my car I could drive with one hand, but definitely not when parking it...
No matter what box it has a good alignment should make a world of difference as long as everything is tight.
sure glad it was not a problem , ENJOYED Alex !
"There's not a mystery, not a problem, there's a fire extinguisher..."
I'm going to find a way to use this in a conversation today.
I'm new to the channel, but can tell I'm going to enjoy your content. Keep up the good work man
Sounds great man. I wouldn't worry about the fuel pump. Anything that is above 180lph is gonna be loud but who cares. It's a street ready racecar!
Thank you!
If there’s nothing wrong on your first test drive you’re either the luckiest person in the world or you missed something lol one step closer man!
No smoke...thats good. Nothing like your wiring burning into the cabin and you pray your fire extinguisher works
Step one -m alignment
Step two - Strap a mattress around the fuel pump
I'd get more seat time before sending that down the track. It's pretty cool.
Lol
So cool! Yeah, it looks like the car really wants to leap out of the hole. Lol you must’ve thought a leaf spring was coming through the floor with that noise!
It was a nasty sound
really insightful setup, very cool.
fuel pump noises drives me crazy....
short drive
It sounds so good
Thank you!!
Is this a performance fuel pump? Why is this noise ? I suggest checking at the fuel pump to see for a nice 14v of power and also a good grounding while the engine is running(voltage drop test) if possible. I had the same noise and finally a connector has melted.
Bosch 044 replica 340lph
im gonna be one of the few people that doesnt comment about the F.P., so lmao, the fire extinguisher sounds like something id get worked up over. especially after 4 of the 16 lunati lifters i put in my dart collapsed. i put howards in the other day, and so far so good. every little sound has me jittery now.
Hell ya can't wait to see more
For real though awesome to see Mr Jones cruisin around 👍👍👍
Is this the one where Abom79 re-made the thermostat housing?
yes
Excellent videos and test on road too also looking very good too!
Thanks!
Now that's a mustache!
jesus, that fuel pump is noisy as hell
That fuel pump sounds obnoxious in the videos.....I dont remember my Walbro GSL392 255HP inline pump sounding that loud.
this is a 340lph
I'll be running twin 255s, in-tank for my next setup.....
Lookin good y'all
I drove a 69 like it for ten years and constantly replaced front suspension parts trying to keep it aligned , sounds good, could use a bigger cam but sounds good
I can hardly wait for a rip at the track.
I don't care how much noise! I just want to drive the little a body keep it up you'll get the pump to be quiet sooner or later and the turbo sounds great!
Thank you!
What do u think it will make for power? Also what kind of time are u thinking it will run?
with 12psi boost it should make 570hp. hopefully high 10's
@@TheGasTap its just a bone stock 5.9 magnum out of big red isnt it? Besides intake
correct
@@TheGasTap should be quick in a car that weighs about 3000lbs. Im building a 67 coronet with a gt45 318 turbo. Mostly because of mr. Jones
Awesome! Shoot me some pics on Instagram
Might as well throw some junk tires on the back and enter the burnout call out fray going on you tube right now, get some more subs to the channel! :-)
Great idea
Don’t worry, we’ve got a plan. 😁
@@davidmo2826 Man With A Plan(& a 'tache...)
Go getterr.... Lay down = lines!
tooSavvy @Lockdown UK
Once you get the back seat and carpet in the fuel pump wont be so bad. I'd say its going good.
Please do something about the fuel pump sound
congrats......first drive around the block is a success........i beleive you can drive up/down the driveway so many times..check and double check stuff......but then you need to go 5 minutes/10 minutes/20 minutes from home.....i have rang a mate and said if i am not at your place in 15....come look for me....cheers
Looking good you've done a great job. The lines of that body are just classic. Was it my imagination or did the car seem to bounce a bit. By the way, it was nice to see the little lady put in a fleeting appearance lol.
I think i love he fact your car has that steering wheel. Thats a very cool, sought after wheel but it's on such a plain jane car. Not a Road runner or Charger
Thanks!
That buzzing has to drive u crazy
Awesome.
Good job so far.
Dont put a cage in it if its 90% street car.....you'll regret it.
Find a dyno shop and get the baseline sorted out on 7psi.
Dont push it over 14psi without 100octane....5gallons of 93
+ 5 gallons of Toluene =
105 octane if VP C12 isnt available locally.
I’ve had good results with mixing torco high octane accelerator. You can mix your own high octane fuel, but watch that stuff as those are some nasty chemicals in there.
It isnt widely known.....but in the 80s Turbo F1 cars ran on a Toluene/Xylene based race fuel up to 40psi and 1500hp.....and had a 114/116 octane rating......
I had a DSM that I needed 116 octane for and couldnt get it locally....a Petroleum Engineer told me about Sherwin William's Mineral Spirits (pure Toluene) and I supplemented 93 octane with it at 70/30, 60/40, and 50/50....up to 28psi with no problems.
Insufficient Octane is the #1 Killer of Pistons/head gaskets
@@kpgsx really? mineral spirits? thats awesome and hilarious.
Really.
Toluene/Xylene IS the liquid in Octane Booster
You mentioned the car is bouncy , did you change the super stock Springs because this segment in the rear is 1 inch longer and it pins the shackles against the back of the frame and in essence it becomes solid, I've encountered this many times and it's easily overlooked
They are super stocks. I’ll check it out
Awesome job dude, you're going to have a coolaid smile for a couple days...lol
The fitech seems to work good so far but dang, the fuel pump is loud. Thanks for making the videos.
Love it man but that fuel pump is noisy as hell
Better mount an extinguisher in the car, to many burn down because of not having one.
Absolutely and need a new one.
Alex , have you gotten a track time for this beast yet?
I still haven’t taken it.
What is that constant hmmm noise that gets loud when you go fast or go slow
lol
almost there
Yea I know another comment about that Pump
it needs a 5 pound sledge adjustment...
Friggin Wyatt Earp mustache
Every time I hear that pump I see the scene from Dumb and Dumber "you want to hear the most annoying sound in the world" sounds exactly like that pump LMFAO
th-cam.com/video/0cVlTeIATBs/w-d-xo.html. Lol
Nice car! Not sure you can hear anything with that fuel pump 😂
I know it's hard to watch/listen to.
Nail you heard the story about the hot rod vailant
Does it have a slant 6 in it?
no. please refer to the description below the video for the car breakdown.
@@TheGasTap thanks
@@TheGasTap thanks and when I was 16 I had a 1963 Valiant!
😂😂😂😂😂😂🤪🤪🤪
How much boost is it set for? I’d be pretty careful not to run very much boost right off the bat (maybe like 5 psi or so)on pump gas because detonation on those cast pistons will be bad news quickly. You may also want to get a turbo blanket because it will melt the paint off your hood and accidentally burn you if your under the hood with a hot engine. Those turbo exhaust turbines get red hot. Lookin good so far.
7 lbs right now
magnums have hyperutectic pistons.
Is the dashboard original? The speedometer looks like a 70s and not a 69.
Pretty sure it’s original. 🤷🏻♂️
Cars like these are the reason ill never own a modern car, classic American muscle has always caught my attention since i was a kid I remember at car shows id ignore modern cars & run straight to the classics im 21 now i own a 3rd gen and after im finish building it im gonna try to get a Duster or a Dart
You've godda do something about that fuel pump.
The pay off is positive congrats......p.s.....very noisy fuel pump ....🤙
where is that fuel pump mounted inside or outside? I couldn't handle that whine in my ear I'd find a way to muffle it . I'd mount it inside a sound deading box that allows air flow or something. that pump sound like Floyd doing his most annoying sound in the world - dumb and dumber .Other then that awsome job and glad to see it rocking down the highway 😎🤘🏁 ✌
mounted under the car on the frame
@@TheGasTap ok cool . sorry didnt want to sound like a smart ass that wasent my intention ✌. if you get a chance check out my channel. its not much . its just me and a smart phone doing videos when time and weather permits 😎✌
@@TheGasTap is it supposed to make that much noisy? that doesn't sound right
You could get a in the tank fuel pump kits the valiant is awesome but that fuel pump is obnoxious
Not gonna say anything about the fuel pump issue. What’s up with the fuel pump? No way that’s normal, no matter where it’s mounted
I’ve heard others complain about them. It’s a Bosch 044 replica. Summit, AEM and a bunch of other companies copy them. I’ve watched some videos and seems half of the ppl get loud ones and others don’t. 🤷🏻♂️
Love the vids, keep em coming!
Thank you!!
Maybe if he rubber mount the fuel pump
Have yo lost your mind yet with the fuel pump?
nah
Hell man I thought that was a Nova 1966.. sorry about that ha ha ha funny
Common mistake
@@davidmo2826 - yikes, really ❓😂
@@mrdiplomat9018 indeed, the first time I saw one I thought it was a Chevy II
😎👍🏁🏁😎
Pinion snubber noise.
I need a "David" to help me with my 71 Duster build :)
🙂👍🤙
Drive it like you stole it!!!
Front end alignments are SOO easy on A body. If you need ANY advice reply back and I’d be happy to set you up to avoid paying for a half assed alignment. Not sure where you are located, but there are very few shops that can do alignments on anything old. I can not only teach you how, but be 100% confident on doing an alignment on any car you have. It’s really simple with very basic understanding. I’ve been building cars for over 40 years. Check out the dart my brother and I have almost completed on my channel to see my work. Not a video guy... so be gentle with my lack of photography skills...
I watched your front end rebuild. Did you address anything with the steering box?often overlooked. Doubtful by the looks of that super clean car.
The box belt good. The car was only driven until 1990. It was a daily slant 6 car. Doubt it got much abuse.
I've done a few hundred alignments in my day and I tried to do the alignment on the Valiant with a level and string but without plates under the front tires I cant get the suspension to settle after adjustments. I have a friend with a shop that has plenty of experience. I'm taking it there on Tuesday.
Getting the car to settle is probably toughest part. Sounds like you got a good plan in order. Here in Denver the car scene really suffers... Anyway, if you need help feel free to let me know. Wished I had found your project sooner!
Awesome! Thanks!!!!
Send that fuel.pump to the dumpster.
Fellas,, this car has been around for 50 years,, there's absolutely nothing on it or in it that you can break , that can't be fixed or replaced . Short of burning it down..
there's an old mantra for the 60s.. that still holds water today.
Buy it-
Build it-
Beat it-
Break it-
Fix it..
Repeat as necessary..
The car is made by Chrysler,,
Not Tiffany's of New York..
Slap it around a little bit,,
Or it'll never respect you...
A little bit of fuel pump whine is acceptable,, but that's just ridiculous...
BTW I'm building a Hemi 265 to turbo to put in my Aussie Charger. I'm in South Africa but,as it's an Aussie engine, here's my mates turbo setup to give you an idea: th-cam.com/video/c9xNYBHXwEo/w-d-xo.html
Needs a silent fuel pump. Doesn't that drive you crazy listening to it
That fuel pump has to go
Woow woow 😍💋 💝💖❤️
If it’s going to tear up there’s nothing you can do about it you in the wrong thang if your that scared an pickey
Think twice before making test runs on the street with out seat belts. I have had bad things happen to friends through the years. Motor sounds good .
Jerry Gulley
gulleyperformancecenter.com
all you sissy's whining about the fuel pump>>its a hot rod..dont need 'tunes'or 'ear buds' ,,its mechanical fun,entertainment ..i luv the sound as it ensures you its working as fueling is critical .. it's suppose to be a bit rude.. if thats your take away from this car..cleary not the hobby for you ..try a civic : o