Dashcam footage shows dangerous overtaking, near misses & mobile phone offences in Devon & Cornwall
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- More than 6,000 videos were submitted to Devon & Cornwall Police via Op Snap throughout 2023, making it the busiest year in the operation’s history.
Op Snap, which was set up in the region in 2019, allows members of the public to submit video evidence of driving offences through an online portal. Footage can be submitted from numerous sources, whether it’s a dashcam, helmet camera, mobile phone or even a video doorbell.
Since 2019, Devon & Cornwall Police has taken action against almost 10,000 motorists through Op Snap - all thanks to vigilant members of the public.
To mark the occasion, road safety partnership Vision Zero South West has released a selection of video clips to highlight the variety of offences which can be dealt with via Op Snap.
The footage features dangerous overtaking manoeuvres, near misses, cars giving insufficient space for cyclists and even a driver using a mobile phone - captured by a passing passenger on their own phone.
For more information visit: visionzerosouthwest.co.uk/rec...
2:56 the lane hogger wants fining too
I take it that the lane hogger 3.08 didn’t get a ticket ?
Doesnt seem to be any consistency in the penalties. Guy in the orange van who was overtaking on unbroken white lines into oncoming traffic only received half the fine and points as the person in the silver van who was all over the road but at slower speed
It depends if you already have points on your licence or not. If you don’t have points you are offered a driver training course, if you have points or it’s a years or so since you did the driver training course then your deemed not to have learnt and are given points.
The cyclist @2.40 was the issue here by deliberately weaving in to the middle of the road for no reason other than to try and stop the car overtaking safely. It’s the cyclist that should be prosecuted.
@@Spongebob_2083 that's fair we don't know the guys driving history. But in general I think the penalties are inconsistent. I was insured with the same broker for 10 years my policy was on automatic renewal. Every year they sent me a reminder saying it was due. Every year it may have gone up £5 or £ £10 whatever, but I was too lazy to go on compare sites for a cheaper quote. One year it jumped £70 so I started searching for a cheaper quote. Online the same policy with the same company was the same price I paid them the year before. I phoned them up, they apologized and sold it at the lower price. At that point I said I didn't want to auto renew as I was going to make the effort to check other providers. Anyhow the next year (2020, covid) my reminder was sent near the due date and I reverted back to my 'can't be arsed attitude forgetting I had cancelled my auto renew. I got pulled for no insurance £300 fine and 6 points. 100% my fault no excuses. I complained about the points as I had 40 years driving without even a parking ticket. They were having none of it. I argued that drivers (like in these clips) are a risk to life of other motorists and/ or pedestrians. I asked why to speeders have the opportunity to attend a speed awareness course and then have their points revoked. I wasn't a danger to anyone else. I understand the financial implications of having no insurance, but I wasn't endangering anyone. That's I think it's inconsistant
race or religion play a part?
Points & fines etc are determined not only by the offence, but also by mitigating and aggravating factors. Also, it can be as simple as taking a ticket, or going to court & pleading not guilty (& subsequently being found to be so).
Some of these penalties seem very varied, a driver training course v a fine and 6 points for similar bad driving.
All depends on individuals previous driving record. You can only take so many driver training courses
and those of which who do not respond to the NIP and identify the person driving receive harsher sentences. what would have been a £100 fine and 3 points turns into £600 fine and 6 points to the registered owner of the vehicle.
@@DarkGamingJMYT1 That is how it should be otherwise everyone would not respond which makes a mockery of the system
Depends on age and driving record really
@@russellprout723 I think the the limit is one every 3 years.
2:57 I'd like to think the police took action against the lane-hogger also. I won't hold my breath.
how is it lane hogging? each lane might have different destination
@@KentRoads Look again at the clip and if you have to ask you don't understand what lane-hogging means.
@@KentRoads Doesn't look like it. And I have no idea why the cammer moved to the RH lane as the clip ended either.
@@horrortackleharry there seems to be more traffic ahead of the lane hogger
@@KentRoadsno markings or signs indicating different destinations, cammer is going the same speed as the car in the rh lane whereas traffic in the rh lane should be faster moving. If it isn't, usually indicates lane hogging
1:47 a prime example of no offence committed but driver takes a "punishment" to avoid unfair legal expenses...
Well done d&c police
Anyone else notice that all these "drivers ed" course are run by ex/retired coppers?
If not, you should have.
I suspect it was excess speed but the actual speed couldn't be determined.
@@dennisphoenix1if you cant proce his speed in court, you cant punish him for speeding
@@aaroncousins4750 that's exactly what I said.
They went for due care. That's an offence that's tryable based on what you can see in the video. It was a fast overtake, for sure. Did it fall below the threshold for 'due care'? Apparently so.
The cyclist in exeter city centre seemed to be veering outwards towards the car, when there was plenty of road space to the left.
The cyclist was avoiding the parked car's possible door opening and person stepping out into the road. Very sensible thing to do. The car was 100% wrong to pass the bike that closely.
To leave a door length is foreseeable and predictable. It looks to be at least three times that distance and that the cyclist took an unnecessarily defensive position. Nevertheless, it is what it is, but the speed differential wasn’t great and the cyclist was equally culpable for having engineered the situation. With this behaviour, it is possible that the cyclist has been intentionally holding up following vehicle traffic for a while, hence the eagerness to pass.
@@michaeltee9351 Yeah that's exactly what it looks like to me. He starts on the centre left of the box, then veers towards the right to try to block the car from overtaking. Clearly trying to get a reaction, so he could upload a video and get someone in trouble.
Idiots like this make life hard for all of us.
Camera was on another bike. Not in a car following too close
I thought the 3 series estate was an unmarked police car, that’s how they usually drive, soon there’ll be cameras in your own house- just in case FFS !!
The guy in the outside lane of the A30 should have also got a fine. He wouldn't have been undertaken otherwise.
Plus theres plenty of pedal bikes causing issues too
8 pts for an undertake? Seems harsh.
snitches, they disgust me
Good to see, but too inconsistent with the penalties. The red van overtaking on the solid white lines at 01:10 should have been minimum six points and a heavy fine, as should the BMW overtaking on chevrons at 01:49
3:15 what about the camera obscuring the driver's view of the road. It's attached in the are swept by the offside wiper.
Not where I'd put mine that's for sure. It is better if they are within the swept area otherwise they'd be far less useful when it rained. A better place would be higher up and to the left of that plastic shroud, out of the drivers view. That's where I keep my current one, most of it is hidden by the mirror, it's also neater and more compact than that monstrosity.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but the bmw overtaking on the hatches with broken white lines was he commiting an offence? Or was it just speeding? TIA
I think you can cross into the hatched area if the lines enclosing it are broken and you have a good reason. But I could be wrong
I think you can cross into the hatched area if the lines enclosing it are broken and you have a good reason. But I could be wrong
Hatched area with solid outline is a no go but with a broken outline ok if safe to do so.
No offence committed but the driver accepted a course that costs £100
rather than
a day off work (£300+)
a day spent in court (boring)
paying a solicitor (£500+)
Just be found not guilty...
To be found not guilty would cost £1000 plus or just take the course @ £100..
Also its a great way to boost the polices "we caught this many bad people, honestly we did we did" figures... 😅
@@chrisfs150 Done same with a BS speeding FPN
signs incorrect and improperly aligned/placed., Av speed camera placed deliberately to catch 'speeders' and hidden from sight by being placed behind an overhead road and well past the actual road works and less than 50m to the NSL sign (this is all in the manual for these things and all ignored.)
If they'd have taken an average of my vehicle through the works it would have been less than the 40mph posted, they did me for 47mph spot speed literally 50 metres before the NSL sign (on a motorway).
Calculating the time and money lost to present the case on my own (I did all the technical findings myself) it would have been 6-7 times the actual fine, didn't change my insurance either.
I'm all for speed limits, but putting in limits and 'catching' people where there is no threat to anyone and o top it incorrect sign placement and hiding cameras is a piss take.
I rarely drive now anyway, as I cycle for most journeys.
£612 fine and 8 penalty points seems a bit harsh for undertaking some nob hogging the lane. And remember people report everything to big brother we must obey the Party
Two wrongs don't make a right.
What do you mean two wrongs don't make a right, just seems the punishment was harsh considering the Nob hogging the lane got off scot-free , people who clearly aren't confident drivers hog lanes, drive ridiculously under the speed limit and have zero awareness of what's going on around them. These Muppets are more of a hazard than the driver doing the undertaking. The problem is we judge every other driver by the standards set by these Muppets and rather than making these less than confident drivers improve the rest of us have to put up with their incompetence or risk points and a fine.
Please don't tell me you are a biker, feck you need to hand your keys back! Let me guess is it a Pan European, you have a white flip face helmet, Hi Vis vest with polite on the back and you want to be a police officer
@@factoryape79 It means if somebody is doing a wrong (hogging middle lane for example) it doesn't make it right for you to commit a different wrong (undertaking). Pretty simple, no?
@@fenrir7969 yeah no s@%t sherlock. When I asked what do you mean two wrongs don't make a right it was a rhetorical question in response to your dickish comment. The punishment the driver received was ridiculous considering the motoring offence committed. That was my point, not that two wrongs make a right. And lets be honest if these nobs driving at 40mph and under in a 60mph etc, who have not a clue whats going on around them didn't hog lanes then "dangerous" undertaking wouldn't happen no? Anybody who doesn't have the confidence to drive at reasonable percentage of the speed limit on a given and has no clue of their surroundings shouldn't be on the road. Why should the rest of us put up with their incompetence. We should teach people to be better more confident drivers rather than just to pass a driving test. And as for people reporting other drivers to the police with dash cam footage over minor traffic infringements, thats some 1984 type crap. Dash cams should be for evidence in an accident or reporting some actual dangerous behaviour not telling tales like school kids over a minor misdemeanours where nobody was hurt. We all make mistakes as drivers no mater how good we think we are.
All or most of these offences are caught by private citizens, unlikely they would have been caught otherwise. Very few police on the roads these days.
I can’t believe our law system when a tractor gets so close to a cyclist that could end up in a death gets 3 points and a £100.00 fine yet a person crawling along on a phone gets double that as far as I’m concerned both of these are as bad as each other
Every speeding offence is different. It all relates to your previous driving record. If you can avoid speeding you won't have these problems
Have you drove a car that was built when speed limits were out in place?
@@aaroncousins4750 What does this even mean?
@@russellprout723 30mph speed limits were first created in 1936 in built up areas.
And in 1965, a 70mph limit on motorways was created. Have you drove a car from the 60s? They stop in half the time, normally built like a tank with terrible saftey ratings, and lack most modern day saftey features, such as the big one being ABS.
Modern day cars are considerably more capable, and yet the laws havent changed, instead got even tighter, wales for example, 20mph in all 30s, in 1936 you could travel faster, take the 1936 skoda favorit for example, 40hp with a top speed of 68mph. My car has 5x the hp was a top speed double that. And yet its still deemed that both cars can safely travel no faster than 70mph
Although car design as reduced pedestrian fatalities since the 30s it does not alter the fact that hitting someone at 30mph 90 years ago and in the present day will still cause considerable injury.
@@aaroncousins4750 Roads are also far busier than in 1936 or even 1965. Human reaction times haven't improved either and in towns, cities, etc you have to think about survival chances of pedestrians that may be struck by a moving vehicle.
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Thanks. I don't think it is.
Driver on phone stopped in traffic gets 6 points and big fine, tractor nearly wiping out cyclist 3 points and £100 fine. See this a lot on these videos, often dangerous close passes only get driving course!
The guy on the bike overtaking on a corner crossing the white lines got away lightly.
He survived and got a training course instead of 9 penalty points.
What would we do without self important camera vigilantes? Some of these clips show law breaking, some show mistakes made into law breaking and the one of the overtake over hatch markings bordered with unbroken lines is not evidence of an offence at all without knowledge of circs not shown by the dashcam (speed, junctions, pedestrians?) The saintly guy filming the tractor seems to be just as big a risk to the cyclist as the tractor. If only the Police bothered to patrol these roads themselves…sigh
So they're all innocent? Maybe they will think more in future when any car could carry a dashcam (or two).
Saintly guy on a bike too. Not such a danger after all.....
blaming the victims of dangerous driver, typical moton cretin who has no idea. I presume if your kids are on bikes and I drive past them within centimetres at speed in my big estate you'll be ok with that and blaming them for just being there.
hand your licence in tool!
“Self important”? Perhaps you’d think differently if a video provided evidence for you when you needed to make an insurance claim against a self important driver.
If you think you made a mistake and somebody recorded it and sent off, you can always go to court and explain yourself. Otherwise it's a violation of code and you get penalised for that.
I think the car with the footage of the tractor overtaking the cyclist looks like it's traveling way too close.
The biggest danger when getting skinned like this is the wheels can catch the kerb or hit a pothole causing the rider to fly off into the road.
I assume it's a pair of bikes with the camera on the front of the second cyclist.
If only the police did their job
Why pixel out the reg' numbers?
Public humiliation can be quite effective. Especially if it's their Dad's car they're driving. 😎👍
Driver training course, big deal.
Submit your clips if you are a Grass. I bet you are a curtain twitcher too, grassing up your neighbours during Covid. This country is going the pan. Whatever happened to no harm no foul.
‘… no harm no foul …” I guess you’ve never lost a loved one to a dangerous driver. These idiots need to be checked BEFORE they do serious harm.
Grow up.
Gd job Devon and Cornwall pity other places wouldn't do the same
driving with undue care, just weak as fck! Most of these are dangerous driving, the tractor with the cyclists is centimetres away from it being a fatality, but plod decide it's a fixed £100/3points, utterly risable and no deterrent whatsoever ffs!
It probably would have been dangerous if a collision had took place but since everybody got lucky, easier to convict for careless.
@@fenrir7969 it's dangerous despite no actual colision! The risk of collision and serious injur or death is high, disgusting driving and plod gave the driver a slap on the wrist.
stop doing the police work and maybe just maybe the need for recruitment may go up