Why do metal fans like screaming??
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ม.ค. 2023
- Why do metal fans like screaming? I react to pergproductions video that attempts to answer that question!
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Thanks for the shout out! Here are my thoughts:
Believe it or not, I actually go out of my way in my videos to annunciate and soften my accent for international viewers. In real life, you'd be right, I do say me'al with a glottal stop. If you can't understand me, idk I guess you just have to get used to the accent.
Sorry Finn, I was 9 years old in 2009, so I'm afraid I don't remember the false Slam discourse. I was watching Ben 10.
16:50 THEY DID BRING IT BACK! Sort of. Just for one song. Listen to their song Triple Beam of 2018's Catharsis. It sounds like a Nu Metal "don't do drugs, kids" school video.
Also, I know you're being ironic in a lot of this but just to be clear: I don't think I have ever said anything gatekeepy in my videos. I like a lot of the same bands that "elitsits" like but I'm happy to admit when I like a Nu Metal or Deathcore band.
Fellow Scottish here, the idea that your accent is strong enough to need captions in this video is hilarious
Thank you for watching, and great video!
I'm not scottish, but I've had some experience with scottish accent. I've watched a bunch of Limmy's videos and compared to him you have close to no accent.
But I guess if it's the first time someone hears a scottish accent, it can be hard to understand. I personally like the accent (and find it rather funny, ngl).
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA sir it’s not just metal fans. Hardcore and punk fans also like screaming.
Without being a pedantic ****er.
We all gotta understand that a great deal of the comedic roasting Finn does is completely sarcastic and for humorous effect. He's not the sort of guy who insults others in earnest.
I think Finn’s grand plan all along was to start making youtube videos about metal music to lure the metal
Community in. And now that we’re all here he’s locked the door and is bullying us. Total Chad move.
Just trying to save you from yourselves
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA vouch, I only touched 3 boobies in high-school and listened to infant anihilator before I watched your videos now I only listen to butt rock and pop and I've touched innumerable boobies thank you for changing my life finn
I feel tha
I, too, have felt bullied by Finn
Top comment 😂
Can’t believe Mgk literally created screamo
mgk is better than every metal band cause he has more Instagram followers
MGK did NOT create screamo. He's not even a Rockstar. He's a rapper. There's a difference to be observed.
@@OmegaRedFan sorry my bad he created black metal. How could I have mistaken the two
@@stg_tmc you are wrong again dude. Machine Gun Kelly never made any metal.
@@stg_tmc before you get dirty, just remember, mgk did NOT create any form of metal. Black metal was made in Finland and other east Europe countries mgk has never been to.
I listen to metal because the world's a fucked up place and listening to pop seems like gaslighting myself
Definitely agree that scream and death growls are very different. I quite like screaming, especially when it is of the James Hatfield "Screaming in key" variety. And I am fine with death growls but if I am listening to death metal its for the guitar rather than the voice in most cases. With the growl, if the singer has a really great sense of rhythm and knows how to do it in a way that the vocals sound considerably different from song to song, I'm more inclined to appreciate the growl. Find I prefer growls that are a little higher pitched. I also quite like metal that has cleaner vocal styles.
I was expecting a comprehensive video on "harsh vocals" but all I saw was a list of screamo bands😤
Screamo lit
lmao the inhale part killed me 😂 had a guy audition for our band back in 2008 and he made two videos: one inhale, one exhale, just in case we wouldn’t “allow” inhales
Lol!
Ive pratice inhale technic for years and ive never been able to do it those people are crezty
This is honestly one of my ALL TIME favorite vids from you Finn. From the rage bait to the undeniably hilarious sarcasm like ah man I just had a hard day at work bro, and this with some great food I just had is EXACTLY what I needed. Good shit sir ✊🏻🤘🏻 I fucking love your content man
I think I actually loved growling the first time I heard it. The black metal hiss is still a bit harder for me to get into even 30+ years later.
Black metal vocals are underappreciated. Bands with satanic themes never get that radio-push in America, Because "Christians" own everything.
@@OmegaRedFan That's not really a problem here in Sweden though. They didn't get radio push back in the day because the music was made to be inaccessible. Just like extremely experimental jazz is not pushed on the radio because a regular person that hasn't heard it before can't stand it.
My normie friends call anything with screaming “screamo”. It drives me nuts
Holy shit so agreed! My sister called Pantera screamo once haha no kidding
Why does Finn want Rob Halford to step on him or kick him in the balls?
Nevermind, I don't think I want to know.
You see Corpsegrinder in that show dressed like that then you might run into him at Disneyland wearing the Mickey ears and with a Mickey plushie in his hands
that was great, good to see not only the video explaining it but your commentary on it as well; lol at dressing like fork lift drivers and Sabaton
I was in high school when the nu-metal machine head album dropped and it was the sole reason I didn’t know machine head didn’t always sound like that for a solid decade because I wrote them off immediately. I have since learned the error of my ways
Personally I don’t mind nu metal Machine Head. But glad you gave them another chance they’re one of my favourite bands.
They sound amazing live. If anything I think they sound better than albums
Finn is a hardcore jock. Making fun of Europeans and Scotts is really representative of how most HC fans are pretty much trying to look cool and tough, projecting their insecurities on ''normies''.
Yes
Everyone makes fun of how Scots speak. Even other Scots. Folk from Glasgow make fun of how folk from Edinburgh speak, and rightly so.
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA The music scene from 1998 called and said that Korn killed Hardcore without any resistance. :D
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA We're still waiting for you the Vandals video. I wanna know if you will make fun of the Assorted Jelly Beans :)
Finn; "where do you hear the t in death metal?"
Me; "in Scotland"
Never seen myself as a "MetalHead" or even a part of that community i still enjoy the harsh vocals and fast paced riffs because i find myself more relaxed by it than other genres of music
LOL I was the same as a kid "I like metal but all that screaming is a bit too much for me." Even though I listened to Nu Metal, which had a ton of screaming in it. That's why I got into bands like Linkin Park, Korn, Papa Roach, etc. But Slipknot, Killswitch Engage, and all the others grew on me, and now I need screaming.
Finn, Machine Head did play their entire nu-metal record online last year and two songs from the follow up plus Sepultura's Roots Bloody Roots. Find the stream. If they did that, Robb is probably down on touring with the Burning Red as a theme. lol
You complain alot about Metalheads but YOU Are THE BIGGEST Metal Elitist Ever. You can't help yourself. It's Gold!
The original video is unironically amazing and worth watching without Finn's reaction
Nobody has to even watch a basic rant video by some guy with a computer. I know my bands. When you listen to good bands for years, and a random "thread" says your music is "screamo" "hahaha mark", etc. You may say "wow people are stupid". But you won't say that if you're not smart.
@@OmegaRedFan I don't understand. Are you saying the original video is terrible or Finn's video is?
Finn's@@xigbarii8432
Finns keen eye and ability to describe metal and rock dress styles are undefeated
I drink gallons of beer, so you don't have to 🍺
Probably he only knows the American beer, he should taste European beer like Czech, German or Belgian, very good stuff. But Corona beer (USA) is also a good one.
@lukegipsy I'm a big fan of stouts, ales and porters.
There are bands I’ve listed to for decades and I still can’t understand the lyrics unless I have the captions on to read along with the song
I got into metal with Children of Bottom at the age of 10 or something. Hatecrew Deathroll, which I still hold dear, was my second album that I ever owned after buying a Billi Talent album a couple months prior. However for harsh vocals to be the dominant vocal style in my playlists it would take several years of mainly Power Metal and NWBHM. Now harsh vocals are not something I tolerate, but something that vastly improves most metal songs imo.
I'm thirty. My days of showing metal to people that definitely don't want to hear it, are long gone lol. It's something you grow out of
I love Finn's sarcastic vibe. Funny af
So much for your new years resolution to be nicer this year. haha!
The Mean sarcastic Finn is my favorite Finn.
Machine Head had a couple of nu-metal throwback songs on their last album FYI
Late to the video here. Didn’t realize I wasn’t subscribed, I’ve been following you for over a year. Love your content, that said I love screaming fucking vocals. It’s more of an “acquired” taste and I love it, I sure as hell didn’t wake up one random day blasting extreme metal. Took a lot of time and musical development to get me to the fine dining that is metal vocals. I tell my friends that in much of Metal extreme vocals are just an added layer of instrumentation. It slaps. 😊
I remember that once Marilyn Manson said something like that: 'if they even don't understand lyrics because they don't know language they can feel my emotions" and I as teenager felt that.
Nobody wants to listen to that shit, that's why hip hop is on top knock that shit off and bring back some lyrics good vibe rock
This video is so great! But the beer being disgusting comment at the end!!! *chefs kiss*
I like pergproduction
I’ll watch whatever you post cause I love your content but I prefer the tiered lists or other highlights as opposed to these reaction videos you’ve been doing lately. I want to see your takes on things not what you think about someone else’s
Thanks for watching! More tier lists coming soon.
I like screaming because it makes the music feel heavier. Its more interesting and i just like deeper voices and more intense sounding stuff
Demilich is from my city! I love them and seen them live here in Finland.
I used to HATE “screamo” music. Metallica was THE heaviest I would ever listen to. I’m 43 and my oldest son is almost 18. When he took a music appreciation class at school coupled with voice lessons, somehow he became intrigued with the techniques used by extreme vocalists. He started telling me about it and showing me examples and diving deep into all the cool sub genres. We’ve been going to shows together for the past couple of years and i ❤️ extreme vocals and metalcore🤘
That's awesome!
The fuckin screamo bit killed me every time. I have friends that do this unironically and my pedantic inner voice SCREAMS and it's so hard to shut it up lol.
This is your funniest video ever, every joke was on point LOL
Thank you!
Finn: I never went thru a nu metal phase
Also Finn: if machine head played their nu metal album front to back live, I’d pay for that
plot twist: is in the middle of one for years now bruh 😂😂😂
"Hau easzj issz itt tou sabpostraet tha woiscessz aw Pearl Jam/Reginald Dwight? Thej iewenn maed fan aw himm on MadTV sieries 3 ar 4 mit Will Sasso parschialj far that 'mamblcoor' schitt."
Aww yo is this that little Scottish kid?? Yooo funny you running into little dude; he made this little subgenres of metal series thingie that my austistic ass had a lotta fun watching. You might actually like it too *no shade lol* But yeah i also found this guys proposition pretty fascinating
Cool to hear his perspective on the idea
Same, that's a great series
I'm with you on the beer! I'm a hard cider guy through and through. Do like mead once in a while.
I believe the Machine Head album was Supercharger. I almost stopped liking them in that year. Then the Blackening came out, and I was like "alright, it's ok wear their shirts I have again."
I have waited my entire life for Finn to say “Come on Daddy Rob”
Joooo the inhale/exhale debates. Lord have mercy what a flashback to simpler times.
18:14 I was someone who disliked death metal vocals too; I was a big prog-head and the heaviest thing I listened to at the time was maybe Slipknot? but Opeth was the same for me, instantly obsessed and started digging deep into death metal. Now it’s my most listened to genre
Screaming is one dimensional. A low pitched growl is going to sound the same with very small variations between artists. Same with high pitched screaming. There's just less wiggle room at those high and low ends. That's a fact. Mixing it up is what I personally like. A wall of noise works in some cases but not all that's why those bands kinda just are relegated to a niche pocket and will never reach as many people as bands who have more vocal range.
If you take Metallica at their peak for example (AJFA), they had plenty of growling going on and the music itself was fast and heavy but Hetfields vocals had a lot of range. He did some low growls but in key moments, he did some higher pitched growls in other moments. He did some light singing, some vibratto's etc. There is just a much wider range which produce different sounds which translates to different feelings from the end listener. Vocals are just another instrument, it's kinda why a consistent drum machine blast beat is boring as fuck after a while because there's nothing else being offered. Same reasoning can be applied to vocals, or anything for that matter. Too much of 1 thing can make it bland and boring.
But that's just how it is. It's why there are sub-genres. To say "metal fans" like screaming is very reductionist thinking. There's like a thousand sub genres under "metal" and they all aren't the same.
Opeth brought me in with Hessian Peel and has kept me to em with my discovery of Candle Light Years about 3 years ago, I miss the old vocals
The "Live Cannibalism" DVD is what got me into Cannibal Corpse - that concert sounds so good - still to this day.
Its generally because studies show the murder rate is increasing due to climate change which in turn causes more murders due to the murder rate increasing. Therefore its generally because the murder rate is increasing which means more metal fans are currently being murdered while listening to dying fetus than ever which in turn causes them to need to release pent up gun shot wound pain which in turn causes them to enjoy hearing the sound of fetuses dying as emulated by the singer from dying fetus which is supported by the current literature.
-Liver King
Loving beer is even more difficult to explain than loving screaming. (& I do love both. XD)
Beer is great, but I can't blame folk for not liking it. I struggled to drink it the first time I tried it.
@@pergproductions see for me it was drinking cheap hard liquor as a teen. Beer tasted way better after lmao
That's the analogy that I always use. Literally zero people ever liked their first sip of beer, or their first time hearing harsh vocals. But yet both are extremely popular, world wide.
I'm still waiting for the listens to sports metal merch.
Demilich is classic, I remember hearing them in the 90s and always remembered them due to those unique vocals. You seem to like a lot of similar death metal. Ever hear Kataklysm's The Mystical Gate of Reincarnation? Those are some fun vocals.
Loved that one too!
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA Fat chance of this, but have you ever heard of Cephalectomy?
Seeing people talk about Machine Head makes me so happy. So fucking happy.
As an English speaker, I struggle to understand Finn McKenty tbh. I don't understand American
Next Video: Why does metalheads hate rapping?
Rap is good on its own, just dont combine with metal. (for the most part, Napalm by Xzibit is pretty good, maybe some other shit as well)
Yessss because I'm trying to get into metal, and its fascinating to see how so many metal heads "hate rap".
@@FCGREGOR ...and i would really like to know why. That's why i wrote this comment.
@@SportsMetalBizkit Music creates emotional reactions. I would assume people who listen to metal get something from metal and feel nothing from rap. Its hard for some people to accept that the song that makes them want to jump, makes absolutely nothing happen to the guy next to them, but that's part of people different people. I feel nothing when i listen to rap, maybe you feel nothing when you listen to metal. I'm fine with that, just enjoy what you enjoy
In metal the lyrics and storytelling arent as important. Guitar chonky riffs and drums are the most important part. For most of the metal i listen to, i have just a vague idea of what the lyrics might be about, but it does not matter.
Meanwhile, rap is for the most part reverse of that. Instrumental is still important, but the lyrics and vocals are more.
It just depends, what you are looking for in music. But its nice to have a break sometimes from metal and just put on some J.Cole, Kendrick, Juice wrld, etc...
But hate probably comes from the lyrical content, simplicity and popularity I believe.
Saw you on Chrissie Mayr. Unexpected surprise. Hope to see you on FNT soon!
thank you for bringing attention to pergproductions he did an amazing series on metal subgenres.
That was actually how I found him a few years ago.
This was too funny! Hahaha the inhale debate was so dumb! And yes Grisly Aftermath is fucking sick!
I'm such a big metal fan, that in college a pretty girl asked me if I wanted to go to a party tonight, and I said "sorry, I gotta go home and listen to deathcore"
1. I'd pay a great sum for daddy rob to step on me
2. Imagine bands like Suffocation, Deicide or Devourment with all their heavy and chaotic drums, bass and guitars, but clean sung vocals. Would be bizarre.
I’m not a metal head but harsh vocals add to the emotion songs should bring.
Finn whrn are you doing 24/7 twitch live streams?
Kudos for bringing up Demilich \m/
I sang in a "Metal band" (I use the quotation marks due to how directionless/clueless we were) for a brief time. We played 3 shows, sort of. Our finale was in a bar with probably 8 people in attendance. Lyrics? What are those? I just screeched/screamed/gurgled random syllables.
And it probably sucked
I won’t tolerate beer slander
Oh flower of Scotlaaaaaand
I saw MH on the Burning Red tour. Amen(!) was supposed to open but Roadrunner pulled their funding. We were are hanging by the back door and Robb came out with his hair, and was, like, You guys just kickin' it?
He has the most understandable Scottish accent I've ever heard. It's almost American! I'd hate to watch you try and understand me haha.
Unto the locust awakened me as a kid. My jaw dropped when i heard locust in the sleeping dogs radio
Pergproductions has a very funny series on the subgeneres of metal
My first concert was deathstock 3 in New York city Cannibal Corpse,Immolation whole bunch of bands I was 16 a week after was H20,Subzero hardcore show.
I always think about this. More and more I’m realizing that in A LOT of pop and rock music I can’t understand what the singer is singing anyway, sooo….doesn’t really make a difference there
Finn we must have similar for you pages because you always end up doing a video I’ve just seen within a week of watching it
Concur: beer sucks. I hate it. Get me a white claw and let's watch the OC.
Screamo Morbid Angel is the only thing i'm looking forward this 2023
Pantera has the perfect metal vocals. Anything heavier than that is a bit too much for me in most cases. But I love metal guitars.
metal fans like vocals, which harsh vocals happen to be a type of
It was Obituary and Cannibal Corpse eaten back to life that got me into death metal I didn't understand what they were saying at 14 years old but the music was just more extreme from the thrash and maiden I grew up with.
Ngl I fucking love that machine head song.
But it was in that big block of bands I discovered on mtvx way back in the day.
“How can you like metal?”
“How can you like what you listen to? Whatever your answer is, is the same as mine”
That’s as far as my conversations go about it
Hey finn can you do a video on zeal and ardor. There a good band mixing blues and black metal but if your not into that it's cool. But would be awsome to talk about african American punk and metal bands since they don't get talked about much. Take the punk band death by some there the first punk band ever but that's just my suggestion.
Have a good day man 🤟
I couldnt stand Finn McKenty AT ALL at first. After a year of watching this channel i finally have come to terms that we have almost the exact same thinking process about a lot of music. Im tuned in everyday now.
One reason I gravitate toward metal is that screaming expresses emotion. Sometimes it soothes me mentally. I still find it hilarious when I put on Breaking Benjamin and my friends got intimidated by Ben’s growls 🤣🤣 like you ain’t heard shit if that’s the case. Same when I put on Bad Omen’s Dethrone and my mother thought I was listening to death metal.
how tf does screaming soothe you mentally?
@@plusmin09 you never screamed into a pillow as an angsty teen? It’s like that, but with music behind it. Not that hard to understand.
I am 58 and 2 of my kids(25/27) think I am crazy and weird when I play Breaking Benjamin, Bad Omens, I Prevail and ADTR just to name a few. Luckily. my youngest (18) likes the same music and has introduced me to a lot of newer music.
@@tim.noonan I could see an angsty teen releasing tension through screaming as being soothing to them, but me hearing an angsty teen screaming definitely doesn't relieve tension for myself. Quite the contrary.
In your original post were you saying that you performing metal and screaming soothes you mentally? Because I could see your point in that. That's actually probably one of the main reasons that such a disproportionate amount of metal fans play that music as well.
@@plusmin09 Idk, I find a few types of harsh vocals pretty soothing. The high whispery kind of screams typically found in atmo-black, for instance. Certain death growls kind of hit a cozy spot sometimes too. Different strokes and shit, you know?
It sounds nice
Vocal styles other then the high falsetto i can listen to, with the exception of monotone one trick pony screaming like chimera.... They have to have some dynamics
It's vocals and guitars equally for me. I can't much enjoy one without the other
I want to hear screamoi. Not a typo
Great video, glad you're reacting to this creator he makes great content!
Machine Head's nu-metal era was awesome, just sayin'. My second-favorite album of theirs.
As a guitar player who started with Kurt, moved on to punk, then metal, and then death metal. I have to be honest. The singing became tolerable for the passion that the music executed at first. Then it just became something that became normalized. Never sought out the genre for the vocals. If that was the point I wouldn't be able to listen to Rust in Piece.
For your next video can you please react to a Your Favourite Band Sucks video they’ve talked about how much Slayer, Rage against the machine and social distortion suck and I need to hear your take so badddd
That’s it Finn, the beer comment has me wondering about you and your opinions haha. You sound like me when I was 14. All love though, your videos are still great
Appropriate Response: "Metal up your @$$ \m/ \m/!!"
S.O.S I'd believe, but eight years old? Didn't know what nu metal was when I first heard them. It was all just rock to me.
Screaming is like spicy foods. Logically theres absolutely no reason that a person would enjoy eating it. Yet people do. They even love it.
We should do a fest wtih all these thrash band playing their Nu metal songs only, featuring Metallica St. Anger and Fred Dust pop song singing. This show is called " when we are wrong"
Man I sure think it's neat when those screamo guys do a big screamo 👍🏼