The A team to save Australia in the 2020’s Marles and Campbell. Them served with a hudge slice of WOKE, a generous dollop of lipstick, work place safety and political brown nosing. Australia has changed completely in 80 years. Our forefathers must be so disappointed
The problem was Vietnam and the ideological war that was a serious mistake. It turned everyone off the military and made being anti-military a vote getter. Defensive military is important, empire building and ideological wars can slide.
It actually went downhill when Gough Whitlam was Prime Minister, and pulled us out of Vietnam three years before the Yanks did. As one who served at that time we all could see the writing on the wall, and many of us voted with our feet, and left the Army, Navy or Air Force in droves when our enlistments were up, and while it was the best nine years of my life, I could not serve if there was no support from Government for what essentially became a paper military. For example when I joined in 1969 there was 75,000 enlisted in the Army, both National Service and Regular, when I left in '78 the numbers had dwindled to 39,000, largely due to National Service being abolished in '74. Labor has never been the Defence Forces friend. We can have all the new shiny equipment, like tanks and artillery pieces, new ships and new aircraft, but without the people to fly the planes, sail the ships or drive those tanks or fire the cannons, they might as well be sent to Ukraine where they will be used.
All of what you have said has been going on since before WW11. Read the book by Hal G. P. Colbach, 'Australia's Secret War', in which he details what the Australian Communist Unions did, sabotage, destruction of equipment, monumental levels of fraud and theft of supplies, all of which did cost Australian lived in the Pacific. @@bushranger51
The alphabet rainbow thieves can wave their flag. That will strike fear into the enemy for sure! Fun fact about the colours of the rainbow flag. When you take away the division of all the colours and mix them together in true diversity style you get the colour of shit!
It doesn't just stop there, though. It's labor and green government is a major problems. They won't fund our defence. They cut funds and programs. Always have. Australia needs to keep them out of government to have a proper defence
@@Alien8-xq4jb Marles looks exactly like a slimy used car salesperson, the stereotypical one from the 80s before the used car industry cleaned up its act.
Considering a job in the army but heard bad stories from friends about post service treatment. Might try for a technical job as an engineer or in the private defence sector
Campbell needs to go. The head of the ADF must be responsible for the failure to produce timely and accurate strategic advice and ensure appropriate government support through high quality communication. We do have drones, and missiles but the numbers are so trivial as to be irrelevant. The ADF is playing catch up, but its playing catch up because it is not strategically savvy. All roads lead to Campbell.
From someone who has a grandson in the ADF the way they get treated us very reminiscent of the stories that used to come out when conscripts were fighting in Sth Vietnam. It's the same old same old, ministers with all the work experience of 3 weeks picking up a piece of paper from a Union Boss's desk and placing it in a filing cabinet. To throw the a bone to Albo,he's working with zero talent. That's why we end up with 2 times MP failure Bowen as minister for energy. There is no talent in the pool.
@@BrianHunt1911 Politicians need to be paid what their area are averaging, so if your managing farming and agriculture you get paid what the average farmer does per year, so if you want more money you have to raise those conditions... and the prime minister should be paid based on a performance review of 100 selected individuals, 100k - whatever but if people think hes doing a bad job low pay!
Yes, can't argue with that. But Key Performance Indicators for a PM. A Labor PM. It bugs me that we have relatively incompetent people doing (Pretending) to do what they are completely unqualified to do. The Minister for Health, does he have any qualifications to decide what medical treatments should be made available to Australians? I don't know but based on whats been achieved.It shows: NO@@SandboxRigger
Correct. The Sale Victoria roundabout took 11 months in 2010, I was there. The First word in the latest edition of Newspeak, sorry Australian Macquarie Dictionary, is 'Can't'.
Good that someone puts Australia ahead of their own ego. Australian Defence is bigger than politics. Australians join the Australian military to protect and serve other Australians.
Yes, my great uncle left his dependent family of all females in the country to volunteer to defend all Australians as a bomber pilot from the Japanese, all around our country he defended us without fail! We lost him because of a refueling failure in the foreign plane, we certainly had a committed and hard working defense force in those days! Certainly, recently, I have considered the need to reinstate National Service!
@@concernedaussie1330 I heard someone comment that these kids have no parenting, no structure, no boundaries and no social support but each other! He suggested farm stays with constant support, real care and daily responsibilities with rewards for success! I believe that is a great start, especially if that includes animals! 🤔
@@jenniferharrison8915 I hear you Jennifer . However in my opinion of course, Australians need to harden up . I’d like to see all Australians do 12 months of national service. Not necessarily in one go , I’d love to see millionaires & snotty nosed yuppies on the floor with everyday men & women digging holes , cleaning toilets, sweeping floors . Zero entitlement .
Dutton said something today when welcoming James Marape to parliament, that needs repeating over and over. "From strength comes security and from security comes stability. From stabilty comes prosperity."
Not by me mate ! It will take more then government money & expensive toys . We need civilian engagement & creativity. We couldn’t even supply & produce enough small arms & ammunition. Australia is a strategic dunce .
@@concernedaussie1330 Thanks mate 👍, the government's vision is all wrong,they could beef up our defence capabilities really quick if they stop focusing on subs, total Wall of defence up North, training camps, actually save money too.
@@1JohnnyUTAH I go much further in my plan. 😁👍🏻 . Rebuilding our old railway network & old towns along those railway lines as defence manufacturing hubs . Steam locomotives & localised steam powered based power . Multi fueled coal , wood or other . That makes our 2nd tier strategic foundations energy independent from the rest of the world. A volunteer civilian home guard of sorts devoted to responding to any emergency, with a major focus on bush fire , floods , storms & droughts. With a focus on emergency vehicles & equipment that are dead reliable, extremely basic, cheap & easy to manufacture. Share components & are built & run on organic products. Hemp , flax , bamboo and other grasses & plants. That can be grown, harvested, refined & manufactured into products in the same locality. Everything from gunpowder & explosives, alcohol, biofuels, fibres, foods , oils , wooden laminate products, resins, plastics & much more can be made from just these 3 plants. Planes , trains , automobiles, boats & underwater boats, drones , missiles could easily be made . Made for fighting fires & other emergency’s as the ongoing backbone . This equipment & training, logistics & production capabilities could be stepped up , tweaked & used in land defence of the nation if need be . We hear all of this nonsense about global warming . Well use that as the excuse to go bio fuels & locally sourced manufacturing ( to save the planet . Not from electric crap from dirty China & it’s shipping emissions ) Bush planes & float planes don’t require runways & expensive airports. They can be mobile ( ever shifting targets ) dogfighting is over , missiles can pull more G force, don’t require years of training & need high speed jets . Dumb prop planes can carry air launched ballistic missiles & other missiles & drones. Basically bombs trucks that use externally guided & targeting systems. Midget ballistic missile underwater boats, made from non magnetic materials, that can operate in shallow waters . One only needs & imagination, old analog tech & fight to our strengths. Our biggest on going threat are at home . Shit leadership, zero strategy & natural disasters .
cant even defend it from foreign nationals landing in northern Australia, how the fuck could we afford to defend it from missiles/drones the maintenance cost alone would send us broke.
ADF hierarchy have misappropriated and squandered 56 billion in ten years on rubbish, As a Veteran I have seen the trash bought that is either buried or rusted tied up to a navy wharf
Food security is important if our farmers are not resource rich then our population is potentially the poorer for it. You don't eat you don't live.simple as that
That fear includes handing back land, and other current native issues, they all threaten our food security! We need to see the whole picture clearly, now!!
It's not a story that supports the idiotic Chris Bowens warped unintelligent brain. Nobody is blinder than the person who decides he does not want to see. . And with this the liar in the Lodge has reached the bottom of his talent pool of elected members He's got nothing of intelligence available.. A sign that preselection is only based on how many days candidates have spent filing paper for a Union Boss's.
Why put ministers in charge of defence when they clearly aren't really interested in the portfolio? What has he achieved in defence since taking on the portfolio? He clearly doesn't respect the people in defence so why is he there? If he can't get along with the people in defence then how is he going to get anything done?
I worked temporarily in an ADI office, the consultation process and constant meetings and changes was exhausting! It takes an experienced person with real hierarchal respect and strong clout to run that portfolio successfully!
Thank you Andrew, thanks Barnaby Joyce and Bob Brown! We cannot keep hiding from the reality of the fact that Australia is now being seriously (and dishonestly) undermined and divided! Australians need to know all the details to form educated opinions and be aware, in time, to prevent more destruction of our natural and essential resources and basic Australian values! Also, how is it that we are able the send Drones to other countries but not have a supply here? + Why are we buying expensive, possibly shortly redundant, secondhand submarines, but not the most basic military equipment? Why are WE not being informed or consulted first? 🧐🤔
This government doesn't have time for defence issues. Marles is to busy jetting around i ADF jets with his golf clubs on board and Albo is to busy passing laws that say your boss can't ring 1 minute after you have clocked off.
@@tomjones5338 With the Airport in WA and the Port in Darwin , whats stopping the CCP from saying, to hell with Taiwan, they are going to fight back, Australia, on the other hand with a Liar in the lodge Parliament with sympathetic allegiance to CCP, three weeks and the "handsome boy" will be signing the surrender documents giving over all mineral rights to the CCP. That''s the "limp lettuce" leadership Australia has descended into. A Prime Minister and defence minister completely out of their depth and incompetent. If the Chinese can just work out how to get past the crocodiles. And the US is not coming to the aid of a member of the QUAD alliance who's PM has turned his back against any requests made on Australia. The liar in the lodge would like to play with the big boys but he really doesn't have the cojones to be a strong leader
@@bretloyd8097 no matter who signed off I don't believe they had the right to give up an area of Australia. Times have changed.. that deal no longer seems appriate given the aggressive policies of the CCP. The only question is whether a liar in the Lodge has the cojones to call up Xi and tell him Aust wants to renegotiate the deal before end of month. No big deal for Zi's "Handsome boy". PM
Well when u force wokeness in the Australian military no one wants to join Labor are destroying it even scomo crossed the line when they were sent in to force jab residents in the poorer communities of Sydney
Strange how military, volunteer bush fireys and nurses have to have the jab but law enforcement doesn't. Don't forget about money being spent on military rations to make them halal friendly. I'm still seeing Ben Roberts smith in the papers but yet any crimes committed by police in recent years never gets the same attention or disciplinary actions. Is there some invisible line where the law seems to stop working?
🇦🇺 This deceitful Rogue government that does not stand with it's defence force or it's people. Is the biggest threat to our national interest and security that our country has had to face in my life time and I am retired .
New national strategy, "Road to war " 1. ADF Generals to implement defence wide wokeness policies. 2. Conduct welcome to country 3 Have Airbus on stand by 4. Albo, Marles, Wong & Co apply for American visa 5. Get Kevin to find accommodation in NYC 😂😂😂😂😂
Defense should always have a strong minister. Unfortunately, both sides have let defense down. Peter Dutton did his best during his short tenure, but Labor has made a dogs breakfast of it, mainly because they have no strong ministers for any portfolio.
@@gingertom56no it wasn't Dutton was the best Defence Minister in decades. Will be our PM soon enough. The man has a steel spine. This far left Socialist Labor flogfest of Economic Incompetence & Ideological Idiocy is done
I am in the Canadian Army and worked with the Australian Army. Trust me, it isn’t that bad for you guys. Besides lower manning, which all modern militaries are struggling with, I was very impressed with their kit, training, etc.
Same in the UK - not enough anything. I left military in 2000 in disgust after 18 years at shortages. HMS Queen Elizabeth - new, aircraft carrier - broken down - not now going into the Gulf. RN stopping/ scaling down its main frigate patrols in the Falklands Ridiculously some generals/ mps have been calling for national service 😂 - snowflakes and wet wipes we have now? Most would find some excuse not to join and other part would turn weapons on the instructors
Well nothing has changed in the past 50 years with LABOUR management of the defence force. They wonder why people don’t want to serve their country. Politicians red carpet and fill your pockets.
The people at the helm of the ADF are totally beholden to whatever political driven policies are the flavour of the moment.....the actual defence of the country is a sad last
ABC Australia, Britain, Canada. All three need to rebuild their Military. Best they work together. Chose common platforms ie ; Type 26, Type 83 AAW, MK 41 VLS, MBDA Sea Scepters, BAE Mk5 gun, Astute Submarines, F35 B, Patriots Anti Missile defense, Panther MBT, Common IFV, select common Helicopter platform. Larger Purchases mean lower costs per units, spare availability, inter- operability, and clear open procurement Systems. Share the manufacturing and Industrial Trade off. The cost of rebuilding these Militaries Is Staggering, and actually beyond the reach of each Nation independently. Best we all work together. Get the best of what we have available, get it built now, get it out there.
When china wants Australian they will just walk in we need a defence force as strong as china and before people say the USA and UK will help think about we dint help the USA when they asked us and even then how long it would take USA and UK to get here china will alread have taken Australia as we could ony put up a fight for 1 or 2 days thats all
I have British some ancestors and it amazes me how ordered things used to be. Everything is slop now. You just have to compare the statues of today next to the statues of of pre-WWII England.
My Opinion - Barnaby Joyce wandering around the Army's munitions dump! - what an interesting set of circumstances! - better check the fire extinguishers are working!
The ADF are bloody good at destroying perfectly good choppers. They had 40 odd choppers in pieces and digging holes to bury them before the public even knew about it. The lowest pig ignorant act that any Australian prime minister has ever done is denying Ukraine those unwanted choppers.
One good thing could come of this - get rid of CDF and Secretary (these two clowns have destroyed the place with their woke agendas and they wonder why recruitment is down).
Labor with a budget surplus but Australia can give billions to Ukraine but can’t defend itself. Can’t even provide a single war ship to the Middle East.
If the previous government had changed the rules like Labor have done and used the 'net earnings of the future fund' they would have delivered an even bigger surplus in 2018-19. It's a smoke and mirrors surplus. Why have the LNP opposition agreed to let Labor change the rules? Easy answer... when they're back in government they'll use the rule changes and deliver... you guessed it... a surplus.
If you are only trying to recruit women, it is no wonder why there is not enough MEN in the system, in my day there was a women's auxiliary service, and they done a great job!!
All this talk of "drones " but no one says what capability these "drones "should have. Short range units of the type used in Ukraine or the Red Sea would be absolutely worthless in Australia's strategic circumstances circumstances.
I had a chuckle about drones and who knows how many we actually have. But I'm pretty sure we are leading entrepreneurs with them, armour and newer electronic projectiles. Problem is we probably get them produced offshore
Germany started rearming properly four years before WW2, the british three. Currently, the Russians have been rearming for over a decade, the chinese far longer. Australia, on the other hand, has focussed on creating social division, and using our defence forces to clean up after floods and fires. God help us when the upcoming war arrives, as we haven't helped ourselves.
That's what happens under Labor, last time under Dudd and Diltard, Australia's defence fell to its lowest level since 1938! This time it starting to look worse, our navy had 48 ships when Dumbo came into office, 18 months later its down to 32. Labor are a disgrace period!
I used to know a bloke who was in the Navy who'd been in for at least 12 years at the time who said he was voting for a RUDD government. I remember asking why would you vote for a government that since the 1970's is historically hostile to the ADF? His answer was the same old classic Australian voter mentality answer... "It's time for a change mate!" I said to him at the time... "So you want to vote yourself out of a job?" His career ended with the DUDD/DILTARD governments.
Who was responsible for this shambles. Was it David Johnston (Lib) (2013-4), Kevin Andrews (Lib) (2014-5), Marise Payne (Lib) (2015-8), Christopher Pyne (Lib) (2018-9), Linda Reynolds (Lib) (2019-21), Peter Dutton (Lib) (2021-2) or Richard Marles (Lab) (2022- )?
Hasn't happened overnight you can track it back to the 80s it's just gotten a lot worse over the years. Put off contracts, Canceled contracts, Contract size reductions, Fitted for but not "with", Time delays and over budgets causing corner cutting, Equipment retired without replacement, ADF forced to use equipment way past its use by date because of no replacement, Just goes on and on
Most Australians care more about football and other sports and don't notice money isn't spent on keeping us all safe.....but the government is to blame, apparently for slacking off on this matter for years and years. ( ALL parties!)
Ahh yeah, but sports stars are "heroes" and they make so many sacrifices. You know getting some pain killing injections and going back onto the field is pretty heroic stuff. I once heard someone I knew, and thought was a bit of a wanker, which was proven when he said... "As long as I've got a carton and Friday night footy I don't give a f@ck what the government does!"
After WWII there were only two victors - USA and Russia. USA took the West and Russia took the East as its domain (except Japan, NZ and Australia). Australia is a subordinate to USA and as the USA military and society declines so do Australia's hopes of fending off an attack...
1. Defence pay is crap 2. DFRDB is gone 3. DVA won't support you 4. Military assets and equipment is decades old 5. Army Reserves was destroyed in the 90s with Ready Reserves and no chance of ever being promoted 6. Navy and Airforce doesn’t have direct entry Reserves. 7. Army Ready Reserves requires weeks/months of block training and workplaces will not allow this much time off. The General Reserves in the 80s and 90s was 2 weeks. 8. After 16 years in Defence Reserves and Permanent Navy i was given a TAFE Certificate IV in Leadership. I spent 5 years in Army Reserves prior to Ready Reserves and had advanced training in Artillery Signals, OPCP field calling in fire missions, fired the Howitzer Guns, Infantry Training and advanced medical training in a hospital. Ready Reserves offers none of this and twice the commitment
As an ALP stalwart told me, all we have to do is declare neutrality. Yes, just like USA in 1940, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands in same year, Greece a year later, and don’t forget the neutrality of the newly created country of Belgium and guaranteed by Treaty by all the powers of Europe in 1840. On 1st August 1914 only the Republic of France and the British Empire enforced the Treaty terms by force of arms. Neutrality is no answer.
The A team to save Australia in the 2020’s Marles and Campbell. Them served with a hudge slice of WOKE, a generous dollop of lipstick, work place safety and political brown nosing. Australia has changed completely in 80 years. Our forefathers must be so disappointed
The defence force was in shambles when I joined in the eighties.
The problem was Vietnam and the ideological war that was a serious mistake. It turned everyone off the military and made being anti-military a vote getter. Defensive military is important, empire building and ideological wars can slide.
It actually went downhill when Gough Whitlam was Prime Minister, and pulled us out of Vietnam three years before the Yanks did. As one who served at that time we all could see the writing on the wall, and many of us voted with our feet, and left the Army, Navy or Air Force in droves when our enlistments were up, and while it was the best nine years of my life, I could not serve if there was no support from Government for what essentially became a paper military. For example when I joined in 1969 there was 75,000 enlisted in the Army, both National Service and Regular, when I left in '78 the numbers had dwindled to 39,000, largely due to National Service being abolished in '74. Labor has never been the Defence Forces friend. We can have all the new shiny equipment, like tanks and artillery pieces, new ships and new aircraft, but without the people to fly the planes, sail the ships or drive those tanks or fire the cannons, they might as well be sent to Ukraine where they will be used.
All of what you have said has been going on since before WW11. Read the book by Hal G. P. Colbach, 'Australia's Secret War', in which he details what the Australian Communist Unions did, sabotage, destruction of equipment, monumental levels of fraud and theft of supplies, all of which did cost Australian lived in the Pacific. @@bushranger51
and turned to scrap in hours.
@@bushranger51
That was Hawke/ Keating. Labour hate the military.
Women and the Alphabet people first. You know Diversity and all that. 👍👍👍
Can the defence force still define a woman? Don't tell me even the defence force cannot?
@@ZELJKO472 good point. 🤔
The alphabet rainbow thieves can wave their flag. That will strike fear into the enemy for sure! Fun fact about the colours of the rainbow flag. When you take away the division of all the colours and mix them together in true diversity style you get the colour of shit!
@@ZELJKO472it’s not that, it’s the fact that they’ve lowered standards and even then not one woman has passed the requirements for infantry.
Diversity as in the indigenous Australians that joined from WW1 to present??
Marles, like Albanese, is a talking head, not a manager. They do not possess any skills needed to achieve useful outcomes.
Get rid of the woke civilian bureaucracy running the department of defence.
That's the problem you have thousands of staffers who are indoctrinated to an ideology. It doesn't matter who's in power the unelected run the show.
It doesn't just stop there, though. It's labor and green government is a major problems. They won't fund our defence. They cut funds and programs. Always have. Australia needs to keep them out of government to have a proper defence
Marles a🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡, no idea and no solution, this Labor government😂😂😂😂
Irony is disarming a population and telling them they are defenders of the country.
@@Alien8-xq4jb
Marles looks exactly like a slimy used car salesperson, the stereotypical one from the 80s before the used car industry cleaned up its act.
Can't agree more mate, they removed guns and expect us to defend them while they watch from their million dollar fucking mansions. They can piss off
@@Alien8-xq4jbsold out by our politicians long ago.
Well said. No Guns, no freedoms, then no serve. Slaves don't fight.
It's aboriginal land, so they'll protect us.
As a retired Army Major I’m appalled as a citizen I say one term no more
Well said
Considering a job in the army but heard bad stories from friends about post service treatment. Might try for a technical job as an engineer or in the private defence sector
The army isn't a bad career. Just don't expect too much and you won't be disappointed.@@Alastair_Adana
You are obviously a Liberal voter
@stevep3692 why would you vote for the Australian communist party
Campbell needs to go. The head of the ADF must be responsible for the failure to produce timely and accurate strategic advice and ensure appropriate government support through high quality communication. We do have drones, and missiles but the numbers are so trivial as to be irrelevant. The ADF is playing catch up, but its playing catch up because it is not strategically savvy. All roads lead to Campbell.
All roads lead to masonic lodge’s 🤔🤷🏼♂️
@@ivandrinovac3143bingo
Masonic Lodges before country. We need to know where their loyalties lie. Otherwise your country is gone.
Not just the ADF it's intentional because someone doesn't want the west having dominance anymore, UK, US most of europe all in the same boat
Why would any one want to join Military that gives them Medals one day and turns them into a Villain the next day?
From someone who has a grandson in the ADF the way they get treated us very reminiscent of the stories that used to come out when conscripts were fighting in Sth Vietnam. It's the same old same old, ministers with all the work experience of 3 weeks picking up a piece of paper from a Union Boss's desk and placing it in a filing cabinet. To throw the a bone to Albo,he's working with zero talent. That's why we end up with 2 times MP failure Bowen as minister for energy. There is no talent in the pool.
@@BrianHunt1911 Politicians need to be paid what their area are averaging, so if your managing farming and agriculture you get paid what the average farmer does per year, so if you want more money you have to raise those conditions... and the prime minister should be paid based on a performance review of 100 selected individuals, 100k - whatever but if people think hes doing a bad job low pay!
Yes, can't argue with that. But Key Performance Indicators for a PM. A Labor PM. It bugs me that we have relatively incompetent people doing (Pretending) to do what they are completely unqualified to do. The Minister for Health, does he have any qualifications to decide what medical treatments should be made available to Australians? I don't know but based on whats been achieved.It shows: NO@@SandboxRigger
Why let a non military guy become a defence minister?
Why let a moron become a Minister?
Mate that’s a question 🤔🤔🤔
In parliament, they are all supermarket managers. In Albos case ex welfare agent. He knows all about living on a welfare system lol
It's called civilian oversight, the separation of powers and the rule of law. Do you want the alternative?
The ADF wants an army of people who throw down guns and cry 😢 this enemy is discriminating against me! Pathetic.
Australia can't build a roundabout on time and on budget, let alone build an armed force.
Correct. The Sale Victoria roundabout took 11 months in 2010, I was there. The First word in the latest edition of Newspeak, sorry Australian Macquarie Dictionary, is 'Can't'.
Politicians must be held accountable!!!
That wouold be a first.
It would be a good start. We know it won't happen but ya gotta have hopes and dreams, right?@@wyattfamily8997
Never vote labor , liberals, greens or nationals ever again . I the 1st necessary step.
Nothing is going to change until this happens
Marles .. wanting EXCELLENCE !!!??? ... Right now I'd settle for him getting ANYTHING right!
Good that someone puts Australia ahead of their own ego. Australian Defence is bigger than politics. Australians join the Australian military to protect and serve other Australians.
Yes, my great uncle left his dependent family of all females in the country to volunteer to defend all Australians as a bomber pilot from the Japanese, all around our country he defended us without fail! We lost him because of a refueling failure in the foreign plane, we certainly had a committed and hard working defense force in those days! Certainly, recently, I have considered the need to reinstate National Service!
@@jenniferharrison8915national service can’t do it alone !
But it’s a necessary piece of the pie .
@@concernedaussie1330 I heard someone comment that these kids have no parenting, no structure, no boundaries and no social support but each other! He suggested farm stays with constant support, real care and daily responsibilities with rewards for success! I believe that is a great start, especially if that includes animals! 🤔
@@jenniferharrison8915 I hear you Jennifer .
However in my opinion of course, Australians need to harden up .
I’d like to see all Australians do 12 months of national service. Not necessarily in one go , I’d love to see millionaires & snotty nosed yuppies on the floor with everyday men & women digging holes , cleaning toilets, sweeping floors . Zero entitlement .
Dutton said something today when welcoming James Marape to parliament, that needs repeating over and over. "From strength comes security and from security comes stability. From stabilty comes prosperity."
I missed that, unfortunately this statement 'is not' making headlines, thank you. 👍
That applies to families also. Another institution that Labor/Greens hate.
Good point@@every1665
Way to little way to late . He had his time & did F’ALL .
I was Ridiculed for suggesting setting up Missile/Drone Defence system all over northern Australia a year ago
Not by me mate !
It will take more then government money & expensive toys .
We need civilian engagement & creativity.
We couldn’t even supply & produce enough small arms & ammunition. Australia is a strategic dunce .
@@concernedaussie1330 Thanks mate 👍, the government's vision is all wrong,they could beef up our defence capabilities really quick if they stop focusing on subs, total Wall of defence up North, training camps, actually save money too.
@@1JohnnyUTAH I go much further in my plan. 😁👍🏻 .
Rebuilding our old railway network & old towns along those railway lines as defence manufacturing hubs .
Steam locomotives & localised steam powered based power . Multi fueled coal , wood or other . That makes our 2nd tier strategic foundations energy independent from the rest of the world.
A volunteer civilian home guard of sorts devoted to responding to any emergency, with a major focus on bush fire , floods , storms & droughts. With a focus on emergency vehicles & equipment that are dead reliable, extremely basic, cheap & easy to manufacture.
Share components & are built & run on organic products. Hemp , flax , bamboo and other grasses & plants. That can be grown, harvested, refined & manufactured into products in the same locality.
Everything from gunpowder & explosives, alcohol, biofuels, fibres, foods , oils , wooden laminate products, resins, plastics & much more can be made from just these 3 plants.
Planes , trains , automobiles, boats & underwater boats, drones , missiles could easily be made .
Made for fighting fires & other emergency’s as the ongoing backbone . This equipment & training, logistics & production capabilities could be stepped up , tweaked & used in land defence of the nation if need be .
We hear all of this nonsense about global warming . Well use that as the excuse to go bio fuels & locally sourced manufacturing ( to save the planet . Not from electric crap from dirty China & it’s shipping emissions )
Bush planes & float planes don’t require runways & expensive airports. They can be mobile ( ever shifting targets ) dogfighting is over , missiles can pull more G force, don’t require years of training & need high speed jets .
Dumb prop planes can carry air launched ballistic missiles & other missiles & drones.
Basically bombs trucks that use externally guided & targeting systems. Midget ballistic missile underwater boats, made from non magnetic materials, that can operate in shallow waters .
One only needs & imagination, old analog tech & fight to our strengths. Our biggest on going threat are at home . Shit leadership, zero strategy & natural disasters .
cant even defend it from foreign nationals landing in northern Australia, how the fuck could we afford to defend it from missiles/drones the maintenance cost alone would send us broke.
ADF hierarchy have misappropriated and squandered 56 billion in ten years on rubbish, As a Veteran I have seen the trash bought that is either buried or rusted tied up to a navy wharf
INCOMPETENCE continues.
It's hard to carry a pack and run in high heels.
Government is more interested in gay pride than national defence.
Yes but in the movie "Babes, Bullets and Bikinis" they managed it quite easily.
Food security is important if our farmers are not resource rich then our population is potentially the poorer for it. You don't eat you don't live.simple as that
That fear includes handing back land, and other current native issues, they all threaten our food security! We need to see the whole picture clearly, now!!
The stolen land generation courtesy of cassanova Bowen. Albosleezy
I don't want to join the army now, my dad said that when you comeback from war, the government jail's you for war crimes
He works for china not us
How come we don’t have news on the farmers protesting in Europe England and Ireland
The woke media won't show that. It doesn't support their ideology..
It's not a story that supports the idiotic Chris Bowens warped unintelligent brain.
Nobody is blinder than the person who decides he does not want to see. . And with this the liar in the Lodge has reached the bottom of his talent pool of elected members He's got nothing of intelligence available.. A sign that preselection is only based on how many days candidates have spent filing paper for a Union Boss's.
Our "news" in Australia is selective and controlled.
Why put ministers in charge of defence when they clearly aren't really interested in the portfolio? What has he achieved in defence since taking on the portfolio? He clearly doesn't respect the people in defence so why is he there? If he can't get along with the people in defence then how is he going to get anything done?
I worked temporarily in an ADI office, the consultation process and constant meetings and changes was exhausting! It takes an experienced person with real hierarchal respect and strong clout to run that portfolio successfully!
Sorry. A peace time Army doesn’t fall apart in a couple of years due to one government. It takes decades of cost cutting and neglect.
Thank you Andrew, thanks Barnaby Joyce and Bob Brown! We cannot keep hiding from the reality of the fact that Australia is now being seriously (and dishonestly) undermined and divided! Australians need to know all the details to form educated opinions and be aware, in time, to prevent more destruction of our natural and essential resources and basic Australian values! Also, how is it that we are able the send Drones to other countries but not have a supply here? + Why are we buying expensive, possibly shortly redundant, secondhand submarines, but not the most basic military equipment? Why are WE not being informed or consulted first? 🧐🤔
This government doesn't have time for defence issues. Marles is to busy jetting around i ADF jets with his golf clubs on board and Albo is to busy passing laws that say your boss can't ring 1 minute after you have clocked off.
I remember Clive Palmers ads about an airport in WA where the Chinese can fly in.
Rented for 100 years for 2.50 a day to them
So do I that's why I vote united Australia party.
@@tomjones5338 With the Airport in WA and the Port in Darwin , whats stopping the CCP from saying, to hell with Taiwan, they are going to fight back, Australia, on the other hand with a Liar in the lodge Parliament with sympathetic allegiance to CCP, three weeks and the "handsome boy" will be signing the surrender documents giving over all mineral rights to the CCP. That''s the "limp lettuce" leadership Australia has descended into. A Prime Minister and defence minister completely out of their depth and incompetent.
If the Chinese can just work out how to get past the crocodiles. And the US is not coming to the aid of a member of the QUAD alliance who's PM has turned his back against any requests made on Australia. The liar in the lodge would like to play with the big boys but he really doesn't have the cojones to be a strong leader
The one the LNP signed off on?
@@bretloyd8097 no matter who signed off I don't believe they had the right to give up an area of Australia. Times have changed.. that deal no longer seems appriate given the aggressive policies of the CCP. The only question is whether a liar in the Lodge has the cojones to call up Xi and tell him Aust wants to renegotiate the deal before end of month. No big deal for Zi's "Handsome boy". PM
Maybe the enemy will be defeated by using the wrong pronuns. A leathal weapon.
Paul Keating’s “Banana Republic” has become a reality
And it wasn't an accident!
To be fair to Marles, he has to do what his masters in Beijing want.
Geelong Grammar and Ormond College at Melbourne Uni
Marles 'education would have cost well over a million
Today's typical Labor MP
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The definition of the champagne socialist. How vile...
Still hes a mong
You cant force intellect into a tard
Well when u force wokeness in the Australian military no one wants to join Labor are destroying it even scomo crossed the line when they were sent in to force jab residents in the poorer communities of Sydney
Forced jabs and woke. Destroyed it.
Strange how military, volunteer bush fireys and nurses have to have the jab but law enforcement doesn't.
Don't forget about money being spent on military rations to make them halal friendly.
I'm still seeing Ben Roberts smith in the papers but yet any crimes committed by police in recent years never gets the same attention or disciplinary actions.
Is there some invisible line where the law seems to stop working?
Internet is full of Tucker's interview with Putin and Australia's media is very very silent.
All well and good wanting new equipment, but we don't even have the personnel and capability to operate the current equipment
🇦🇺 This deceitful Rogue government that does not stand with it's defence force or it's people. Is the biggest threat to our national interest and security that our country has had to face in my life time and I am retired .
Voted for by deceitful rogues that want their country to become a marxist utopia (dystopia).
New national strategy,
"Road to war "
1. ADF Generals to implement defence wide wokeness policies.
2. Conduct welcome to country
3 Have Airbus on stand by
4. Albo, Marles, Wong & Co apply for American visa
5. Get Kevin to find accommodation in NYC
😂😂😂😂😂
Defense should always have a strong minister. Unfortunately, both sides have let defense down. Peter Dutton did his best during his short tenure, but Labor has made a dogs breakfast of it, mainly because they have no strong ministers for any portfolio.
What did you expect their all soy boys just look at the pm.
The dud helicopters was under Peter Dutton watch as well as most of the of the defense problems.
@@gingertom56no it wasn't
Dutton was the best Defence Minister in decades.
Will be our PM soon enough. The man has a steel spine.
This far left Socialist Labor flogfest of Economic Incompetence & Ideological Idiocy is done
@@gingertom56At least he tried! This current government has no interest in Australia's future only their own!
@@jenniferharrison8915defence buys it's own shit.
You treat your Soldiers with contempt so you reap what you sow .... How many politicians know how to handle weapons ???
why would you want them to? its not really a useful skill for a politician
I am in the Canadian Army and worked with the Australian Army. Trust me, it isn’t that bad for you guys. Besides lower manning, which all modern militaries are struggling with, I was very impressed with their kit, training, etc.
My neighbour has one , he reckons the ADF can borrow it.
Big girls blouse?,
Get Andrew Hastie at the Defence helm...Ex SAS Captain with War service!Not grammar uni educated BGB🇦🇺🥰
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Hastie is a star.
Dutton will be PM soon, a long term PM like Howard.
This Socialist Labor cancer is unacceptable
Same in the UK - not enough anything. I left military in 2000 in disgust after 18 years at shortages.
HMS Queen Elizabeth - new, aircraft carrier - broken down - not now going into the Gulf.
RN stopping/ scaling down its main frigate patrols in the Falklands
Ridiculously some generals/ mps have been calling for national service 😂 - snowflakes and wet wipes we have now? Most would find some excuse not to join and other part would turn weapons on the instructors
Well nothing has changed in the past 50 years with LABOUR management of the defence force. They wonder why people don’t want to serve their country. Politicians red carpet and fill your pockets.
The people at the helm of the ADF are totally beholden to whatever political driven policies are the flavour of the moment.....the actual defence of the country is a sad last
Defence budget can’t be rejigged… it needs to be expanded! The money we spend on defence is pathetic
ABC
Australia, Britain, Canada.
All three need to rebuild their Military. Best they work together.
Chose common platforms ie ; Type 26, Type 83 AAW, MK 41 VLS, MBDA Sea Scepters, BAE Mk5 gun, Astute Submarines, F35 B, Patriots Anti Missile defense, Panther MBT, Common IFV, select common Helicopter platform.
Larger Purchases mean lower costs per units, spare availability, inter- operability, and clear open procurement Systems. Share the manufacturing and Industrial Trade off.
The cost of rebuilding these Militaries Is Staggering, and actually beyond the reach of each Nation independently.
Best we all work together. Get the best of what we have available, get it built now, get it out there.
They are working together.........to destroy their countries with the same policies.
When china wants Australian they will just walk in we need a defence force as strong as china and before people say the USA and UK will help think about we dint help the USA when they asked us and even then how long it would take USA and UK to get here china will alread have taken Australia as we could ony put up a fight for 1 or 2 days thats all
Australia. Love it or leave it. Stop moaning about problems that policies and ideology that you supported which create most of these issues.
...and this tragic situation can be placed squarely at the feet of the CDF. This man should never, ever have been promoted to such a position.
I have British some ancestors and it amazes me how ordered things used to be. Everything is slop now. You just have to compare the statues of today next to the statues of of pre-WWII England.
My Opinion - Barnaby Joyce wandering around the Army's munitions dump! - what an interesting set of circumstances! - better check the fire extinguishers are working!
The ADF are bloody good at destroying perfectly good choppers. They had 40 odd choppers in pieces and digging holes to bury them before the public even knew about it. The lowest pig ignorant act that any Australian prime minister has ever done is denying Ukraine those unwanted choppers.
Ukraine was very, very clear ; Ukraine doesn't need Australian junk.
@@zoek1133 That did not refer to the choppers. which were in perfectly serviceable condition.
What are we defending? This country is owned by the mining companies can’t they hire their own defence personnel? I
Wasted all the money on French helicopters! What a fucking waste!
One good thing could come of this - get rid of CDF and Secretary (these two clowns have destroyed the place with their woke agendas and they wonder why recruitment is down).
Marles reckons he can teach excellence to Defence?
Pull the other one.
I’m not going to protect these modern women. You can though.
Blaming Labour, despite military build up taking years. Who's been in power for the last decade?
We have plenty of drones in the Labour party!
Labor with a budget surplus but Australia can give billions to Ukraine but can’t defend itself. Can’t even provide a single war ship to the Middle East.
If the previous government had changed the rules like Labor have done and used the 'net earnings of the future fund' they would have delivered an even bigger surplus in 2018-19. It's a smoke and mirrors surplus. Why have the LNP opposition agreed to let Labor change the rules? Easy answer... when they're back in government they'll use the rule changes and deliver... you guessed it... a surplus.
What no drones, how in this day and age how is that possible, must be too ahead of them then
its obvious they are pretty stupid Years ago I wanted to join the defence force.....now they are a joke unfortunately. its sad
Mate if America ever goes under and we get invaded, all we have are emus, kangaroos and boomerangs 💀
In other words, we’re fucked 🇦🇺
If you are only trying to recruit women, it is no wonder why there is not enough MEN in the system, in my day there was a women's auxiliary service, and they done a great job!!
All this talk of "drones " but no one says what capability these "drones "should have. Short range units of the type used in Ukraine or the Red Sea would be absolutely worthless in Australia's strategic circumstances circumstances.
I had a chuckle about drones and who knows how many we actually have. But I'm pretty sure we are leading entrepreneurs with them, armour and newer electronic projectiles. Problem is we probably get them produced offshore
Keep calm, the Defence Minister is ready to stand toe to toe with the Chinese communist navy 😂
What we need is a government that will equip the forces with modern and effective weapons and equipment
There has not been Peace, only Truces.
Marles a Minister in Disney Land siting in parliament like a dummy he certainly got no lights on in head tipical labor should leave politics
Brereton Report
'systemic issues'
principle of complementarity.
Rats scurrying on a sinking ship!
Germany started rearming properly four years before WW2, the british three. Currently, the Russians have been rearming for over a decade, the chinese far longer. Australia, on the other hand, has focussed on creating social division, and using our defence forces to clean up after floods and fires. God help us when the upcoming war arrives, as we haven't helped ourselves.
That's what happens under Labor, last time under Dudd and Diltard, Australia's defence fell to its lowest level since 1938! This time it starting to look worse, our navy had 48 ships when Dumbo came into office, 18 months later its down to 32. Labor are a disgrace period!
I used to know a bloke who was in the Navy who'd been in for at least 12 years at the time who said he was voting for a RUDD government. I remember asking why would you vote for a government that since the 1970's is historically hostile to the ADF? His answer was the same old classic Australian voter mentality answer... "It's time for a change mate!" I said to him at the time... "So you want to vote yourself out of a job?" His career ended with the DUDD/DILTARD governments.
Who was responsible for this shambles. Was it David Johnston (Lib) (2013-4), Kevin Andrews (Lib) (2014-5), Marise Payne (Lib) (2015-8), Christopher Pyne (Lib) (2018-9), Linda Reynolds (Lib) (2019-21), Peter Dutton (Lib) (2021-2) or Richard Marles (Lab) (2022- )?
Hasn't happened overnight you can track it back to the 80s it's just gotten a lot worse over the years. Put off contracts, Canceled contracts, Contract size reductions, Fitted for but not "with", Time delays and over budgets causing corner cutting, Equipment retired without replacement, ADF forced to use equipment way past its use by date because of no replacement, Just goes on and on
Imagine the men of many years gone looking at whats going on now in Defence. Theyd be embarrassed.
Did barnaby get pissed after this ?
Most Australians care more about football and other sports and don't notice money isn't spent on keeping us all safe.....but the government is to blame, apparently for slacking off on this matter for years and years. ( ALL parties!)
Ahh yeah, but sports stars are "heroes" and they make so many sacrifices. You know getting some pain killing injections and going back onto the field is pretty heroic stuff.
I once heard someone I knew, and thought was a bit of a wanker, which was proven when he said... "As long as I've got a carton and Friday night footy I don't give a f@ck what the government does!"
Barnaby...what a name 🤣
Why would anyone fight for Australia now?
Didn’t they already do the report? And, that’s what we’re working towards already.
If Taiwan behaved as weak as the current Australian government is behaving, China would be in Taiwan by the weekend.
After WWII there were only two victors - USA and Russia. USA took the West and Russia took the East as its domain (except Japan, NZ and Australia). Australia is a subordinate to USA and as the USA military and society declines so do Australia's hopes of fending off an attack...
The use and abuse of drugs is bringing down the USA it seems. I wonder who owns Big pharma?
I would suggest SKY and DUTTON put their line out there about West New Guinea and the Indonesians?
Drones shouldn’t be used in warfare.
Given the importance of Defence, why doesn’t the Opposition have a plan instead of gleefully jumping on problems?
Opposition and plan in the same sentence 😂😂😂.
Isn't that what Labor constantly did when in opposition?
They don't unveil their plans until election time!
I’ll fight but it will be in this country,I’ll die on this land for the people not the politicians
Ooh, the famous security expert, Bolt.
General Cambell what a total loser, imagine him actually fighting a battle
Don't worry, all the woke rainbow soldiers will protect us.
We all know that. The Army has been decimated. An army needs armour. 129 IFVs is a joke….
I love hearing the discussion about current affairs between these two, they have great rapport.
1. Defence pay is crap
2. DFRDB is gone
3. DVA won't support you
4. Military assets and equipment is decades old
5. Army Reserves was destroyed in the 90s with Ready Reserves and no chance of ever being promoted
6. Navy and Airforce doesn’t have direct entry Reserves.
7. Army Ready Reserves requires weeks/months of block training and workplaces will not allow this much time off. The General Reserves in the 80s and 90s was 2 weeks.
8. After 16 years in Defence Reserves and Permanent Navy i was given a TAFE Certificate IV in Leadership.
I spent 5 years in Army Reserves prior to Ready Reserves and had advanced training in Artillery Signals, OPCP field calling in fire missions, fired the Howitzer Guns, Infantry Training and advanced medical training in a hospital. Ready Reserves offers none of this and twice the commitment
We've given all our Bushmasters, ammunition and god knows what else to the travelling salesman zelinski.
Yeah, and his latest offensive has been an abysmal failure! That guy is a f$cken charlatan!
Barnaby you are looking great!
I like Mr Littleproud, perfect for the role. but Barnaby is just so entertaining.
As an ALP stalwart told me, all we have to do is declare neutrality. Yes, just like USA in 1940, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands in same year, Greece a year later, and don’t forget the neutrality of the newly created country of Belgium and guaranteed by Treaty by all the powers of Europe in 1840. On 1st August 1914 only the Republic of France and the British Empire enforced the Treaty terms by force of arms. Neutrality is no answer.
Well the yes voters better put on a uniform
Term limits on politicians.., no more career politicians 😢