Went through this process with a e39 m52 harnas into my e30 with MaxxECU, I really underestimated the amount of time and learning it would take. Excellent video, very relatable
hello Pazi. After years of ownership of an e46, i finally stumbled upon your channel. Im so happy i found it. Great content, good videos with a lot of learning. Keep it up. Best regards Casper from Denmark
That’s cool bro me and my cousin did the ms43 on e36 harness I didn’t know ms45.1 had wideband reading we went with the ms43 because it seamed easier and we read that there wasn’t that much support for the ms45 nice to know now
MS43 is prolly the best way to go at the moment. It's so well known and documented, there's different patches for it and it's rather easy to tune. And it also works with 8hp using CANTCU. MS45, even though you can now tune it, everything is bit unkown with it. But I'm willing to take it as a challenge. If it doesn't work out, I can still use ms43 as backup plan.
wow. This is extremely interesting to me. I have been away from the discord for a while and I didn't even know MS45 was a feasible option... Wideband + 6HP is quite compelling.
Well I don't know if it's actually viable option for many 😅 It's much harder to tune than MS43. And if you wish to use the CAN protocol that 6HP understands, you need to have car that doesn't originally have CAN bus at all. Because for example in E46/E39 there is many modules connected to the CAN bus. And all those work only with the older protocol.
That will come later. It goes through CAN bus in e39/e46. And you can make it work in E36, using Z3 instrument cluster from car that had M52TU/M54. And wire the AC to the cluster. But I will use the newer CAN protocol, so that is not an option.
Hi, One question.. Is it OK to machine m54b30 crankshaft for -0.25mm and put ACL race bearings? Does it need hitriding again or its ok? Its in turbo motor in m50 block (around 650hp). Thank you!
Well on my e36 it works without a problem, because ECU doesn't talk with it. In example e46 is also no problem, because ms45.1 came in it. You just can't use the newer can protocol in it.
Moro! Tuli tämmöisestä johtosarjan väsäyksestä mieleen että mitä eroa on e36 M52 ja e39 M52 moottorin johtosarjoilla ja onko vaikka e39 johtosarjasta mahdollista rakentaa johtosarjaa kolmekutoseen?😅 +Sulla kyllä hyviä videoita noiden moottorien rakentamisesta!
Kiitoksia! Onhan niillä toki eroa, mutta ihan tehtävissä. Suurin ero on, että korin liitin on e39:ssä siellä ecun vieressä vänkärin puolella, eikä kuskin puolella, niinkuin e36:ssa. Oon minä muutamia noita e39 johtosarjoja tehny e30:iin ja se nyt ei hirveästi eroa e36:sta.
@@pazi88 Okei! Mites nuo pinnit muuten noissa onko sulla niistä kokemusta että onks diagrammien kanssa paljonkin eroja? Oli tosa suunnitelmana vaihdattaa moottoria mutta tällä hetkellä aikalailla täysin hukassa sen kanssa😅
hi there, would i be correct in saying the ms45 ecus can't really be 'tuned' like the ms43 variants? i have an early model e60 530i (ms45.0 ecu) and much to my surprise (and disappointment) i was told the ecu is limited in what can be tweaked with.. =(
Well that was the case, but currently those can be tuned quite well. Ms4x.net wiki has some good info: www.ms4x.net/index.php?title=Siemens_MS45 And I have created RomRaider definition that also supports the ms45.0 on e60: github.com/pazi88/Siemens_ms45_RR-definitions
@@pazi88 oh wow that's wonderful! i'm gonna read up and research more. hopefully you'll also be making more in depth stuff regarding tweaking and tuning your 45.1 ecu!! i just watched your bmw ecu video too, good stuff and much appreciated! cheers pazi!!
@@turbo4lyfe1 Yeah video will come about that. Even I don't know yet how to actually tune the ms45, but I know the basics and theory, so should be fine 😅
@@pazi88 tällaiset löytyy nurkista. ylimääräinen kone ja kori. ja aina hyvä olla joku ikuisuusprojekti. :) koneen liittäminen e46:n korisähköihin on se ongelma, muuten kaikki johdot on tallessa.
Went through this process with a e39 m52 harnas into my e30 with MaxxECU, I really underestimated the amount of time and learning it would take. Excellent video, very relatable
Yeah, these wiring things always take wayyyy longer than you originally think 😆
hello Pazi. After years of ownership of an e46, i finally stumbled upon your channel. Im so happy i found it. Great content, good videos with a lot of learning. Keep it up. Best regards Casper from Denmark
Welcome aboard and thanks a lot!
That’s cool bro me and my cousin did the ms43 on e36 harness I didn’t know ms45.1 had wideband reading we went with the ms43 because it seamed easier and we read that there wasn’t that much support for the ms45 nice to know now
MS43 is prolly the best way to go at the moment. It's so well known and documented, there's different patches for it and it's rather easy to tune. And it also works with 8hp using CANTCU. MS45, even though you can now tune it, everything is bit unkown with it. But I'm willing to take it as a challenge. If it doesn't work out, I can still use ms43 as backup plan.
Just finished watching all the previous parts 🤠
Just in time then 😄 But 6-months late, compared to what I originally planned...
I think there are a lot of people who, like me, are very grateful for any of your content.
Late or not, thank you for sharing with us 😊
Yeh no problem, always nostalgic to watch your videos, we've all been watching you for years and enjoy all updates 👍🏽
I cant wait to see this car on the dyno, good work, keep going! 💪🏼
Was 10+ years ago I made my wire-whip for my then volvo 940 T5.. its time consuming, but quite enjoyable 😁
True. Especially the time consuming part. I always underestimate the time that these wiring jobs take, really badly 😁
amazing work! hyped to see and hear the engine running
Thanks! And me too 😅 I still haven't been able to start this, so that's why the next video isn't out yet. It's otherwise 95% done.
Kiitos Pazi! Good video as always.
Thanks!
wow. This is extremely interesting to me. I have been away from the discord for a while and I didn't even know MS45 was a feasible option... Wideband + 6HP is quite compelling.
where’s the discord
ms4x.net discord: discord.gg/vdVsypF
Well I don't know if it's actually viable option for many 😅 It's much harder to tune than MS43. And if you wish to use the CAN protocol that 6HP understands, you need to have car that doesn't originally have CAN bus at all. Because for example in E46/E39 there is many modules connected to the CAN bus. And all those work only with the older protocol.
Thanks to share this great work!
as usual, we don't deserve you! ❤🔥
19:09 puolen metrin kutistesukka :D
Joo mää en oikeen tiiä mitä mää aattelin sillon 😆
Thanks for the video
Can you explain how to connect A/C?
That will come later. It goes through CAN bus in e39/e46. And you can make it work in E36, using Z3 instrument cluster from car that had M52TU/M54. And wire the AC to the cluster. But I will use the newer CAN protocol, so that is not an option.
@@pazi88 Thank you🥰, and I hope you can explain it in the video
Those ignition coils are common in Italian or French cars too, not so long lasting coil that the old m50 or m52 had 😃
Yeah, not so durable as the old ones. But so cheap that I don't see problem replacing those every 10 years or so.
Hi, One question.. Is it OK to machine m54b30 crankshaft for -0.25mm and put ACL race bearings? Does it need hitriding again or its ok? Its in turbo motor in m50 block (around 650hp). Thank you!
It's ok. I don't think nitriding is needed. The hardening is deep enough.
Sipa, will MS45.1 work with existing ABS/DSC pump?
Well on my e36 it works without a problem, because ECU doesn't talk with it. In example e46 is also no problem, because ms45.1 came in it. You just can't use the newer can protocol in it.
Moro! Tuli tämmöisestä johtosarjan väsäyksestä mieleen että mitä eroa on e36 M52 ja e39 M52 moottorin johtosarjoilla ja onko vaikka e39 johtosarjasta mahdollista rakentaa johtosarjaa kolmekutoseen?😅 +Sulla kyllä hyviä videoita noiden moottorien rakentamisesta!
Kiitoksia! Onhan niillä toki eroa, mutta ihan tehtävissä. Suurin ero on, että korin liitin on e39:ssä siellä ecun vieressä vänkärin puolella, eikä kuskin puolella, niinkuin e36:ssa. Oon minä muutamia noita e39 johtosarjoja tehny e30:iin ja se nyt ei hirveästi eroa e36:sta.
@@pazi88 Okei! Mites nuo pinnit muuten noissa onko sulla niistä kokemusta että onks diagrammien kanssa paljonkin eroja? Oli tosa suunnitelmana vaihdattaa moottoria mutta tällä hetkellä aikalailla täysin hukassa sen kanssa😅
hi there, would i be correct in saying the ms45 ecus can't really be 'tuned' like the ms43 variants? i have an early model e60 530i (ms45.0 ecu) and much to my surprise (and disappointment) i was told the ecu is limited in what can be tweaked with.. =(
Well that was the case, but currently those can be tuned quite well. Ms4x.net wiki has some good info: www.ms4x.net/index.php?title=Siemens_MS45 And I have created RomRaider definition that also supports the ms45.0 on e60: github.com/pazi88/Siemens_ms45_RR-definitions
@@pazi88 oh wow that's wonderful! i'm gonna read up and research more. hopefully you'll also be making more in depth stuff regarding tweaking and tuning your 45.1 ecu!! i just watched your bmw ecu video too, good stuff and much appreciated! cheers pazi!!
@@turbo4lyfe1 Yeah video will come about that. Even I don't know yet how to actually tune the ms45, but I know the basics and theory, so should be fine 😅
lol ehh it'll be fiiiine! lookin fwd to it, and thank u!
Great video
onko tietoa kuka tekisi johtosarjan kun tarkoitus olisi istuttaa m50b20 jo kone n46b18:n tilalle bmw e46:seen?
Ei oo kyl tekijää tiedossa näille. Yleensä ite nämä joutuun tekeen 😅 Mut saanko kysyä miksi moinen yhdistelmä?
@@pazi88 tällaiset löytyy nurkista. ylimääräinen kone ja kori. ja aina hyvä olla joku ikuisuusprojekti. :) koneen liittäminen e46:n korisähköihin on se ongelma, muuten kaikki johdot on tallessa.
Hienoa hommoo vaikka meni kyllä valtaosin ohi 😁
Noo, pikkuvikoja 😁
On kyl raskasta kuunneltavaa kun Pazi ei osaa englantia.
Onneksi sitä ei oo tässä ku viimeset 10 vuotta tullu päivittäin töissä puhuttua.
@@pazi88 narraat