rpr on Viewers that Hate Him for Collabing with Their Oshi [EN]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มิ.ย. 2024
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This is part 1/5 of the rpr, Kohana Lam, restia, dtto stream clipping project!
Update: Mysta has announced his graduation.
Correction: Nocturnal is pan, not straight.
Let me know if there's something I shouldn't have clipped here or anything.
Timestamps
0:00 parasocial
1:58 “protecting” your streamer
2:51 Selen fans
4:08 Nijisanji
4:46 “queer baiting”
5:17 getting mad for your streamer
6:13 collabs not happening because of toxic fans
7:12 don’t let haters get to you
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This clip recently caught my attention. I don't want it to be taken out of context, or sound like I'm complaining, because I wasn't. It's just one of many talks I have with my chat often (that I did not think it would get clipped). I'm very open with people who watch me and I try to explain to them why and how certain things happen because we have a very level headed community and can openly talk about things like this. We talk about various topics and sometimes we get to a topic like this. However, I always had respect for Selen and always will and any other person I collab with, I do not think the bad viewers are reflection of the entire community or a reflection of the streamer even. I'm happy I got to make a lot of friends and even tho some of it was rocky and filled with hate I would do it a million times again cause in the grand scheme of things the fun outweighed the hate! But as I said, please don't take it too seriously, it's just one of those "free talks" I have with chat about various things in life. I try to keep it real with my community and always will! Thank you Pebo-kun for always clipping the fun collabs and translating them, it means the world to me that clippers like you take the time out of your day to clip my streams.
Unholy amounts of based, practically oozing basedness
Vtuber should be allowed to collab with anyone. The only reason a stream is great is because the streamer/Vtuber is able to enjoy it.
one of the few sane "Vtubers" that's courageous enough to speak out and call out the freaks, not only are they creepy but from a content production point of view, they are stifling creator's ability to produce more and varied content but many Vtubers are forced to ignore or tolerate a few but very loud and mentally unstable "fans"
Honestly I don't see much about how this clip is taken out of context. Personal opinion of course but your perspective is EXTREMELY based. Based in reality. Like seriously - we can dance around it and joke about it but behavior like what you describe in this clip is extremely toxic and prohibitive. Streamers, including VTubers, should be able to play with whoever they want. Interact with whoever they want. Their chats should be under no delusion that they "own" the streamer or "control" what the streamer does. Completely based! Side note - I am a HUGE Selen fan and I never knew that Selen fans were known to be like this. My favorite Selen streams, personally, is when she is collabing with other people. She brings out the chaos in everyone she collabs with and it's absolutely amazing. As a fan of Selen's I want to know that she is doing what she enjoys doing, not what chat wants her to do.
As a huge Towa fan, I love rpr even though I don't watch him that much. He threw himself into the rabbit hole head first and earnestly is trying to learn Japanese to interact with the streamers/friends he enjoys. I think a lot of it, for rpr specifically, is that the man is living the dream. A former gaming pro who has become a known entity who can collab and interact with all these Japanese vtuber/streamer circles regardless of gender and is getting to a functional level of Japanese. I'm personally so happy for the dude. He even got to collab with his oshi multiple times. Like cmon thats goated.
People just feel entitled with "their" streamers. If someone I watch is streaming with someone I don't like I just skip it. Just move on with my day and watch something else and catch the next one.
@@natatrule and what 'you' deserve towa's attention instead ? lmfao
sad your salty opinion will never be projected the way you wanted 🤭
@@natatrulebrother who are you to determine whether he deserves her attention or not 💀💀 parasocialism to the max
@@natatruleit’s funny how people get your comment, I just took it as a joke lmao and others were triggered
@@natatrule APEX EU CHAMPION doesnt deserve Towa's attention? What have you done in your life which makes you think you are a better man than RPR? Even his PP is twice your size bro. You are just a scrub.
What did the other person say lol its deleted
rpr is unfathomably based for every single one of his takes in this video.
Be a fan, yall. Support the talents, but don't be like THOSE fans. You know the ones.
We used to make fun of idol culture. Now we're in it too 😮
@@TheDorianTube Define "we"
@@kenshikuif you’ve found this vid you might already be in the hole
@@Jantixz not myself, im here to listen the GIGACHAD roasting those who is, this vid just pop-up on my recommend and im enjoying some roasted parasocial
but i can't say the same for most of other ppl who watched this vid
@@kenshiku All the people that weren't aware of idols and idol culture, and were freshly introduced to it. The first reactions to how certain people act towards idols was alien to us, and we made fun of that, now even among us (ye ye calm down) there are people acting like this. Inb4 ''people acted like this before too'' I have to disagree. Before 2020, when the idol boom came, no significant amount of people (enough to even notice) was going around saying stuff like ''You, leave my beloved Pokimane alone, how dare you talk to her'' lol. There were creeps of course, but nothing like virtual GF kind of thing where they went after people, No ''protect their smile'' cringe, if you get what I mean, and streamers collaborating with dudes didn't make anyone clench their butts
ps: Just to be sure, when people say ''Idol culture'' they don't refer to normal idol stuff, like one would say ''Pop Music Culture'', it is specifically referred to those people that act in a very creepy way and how the idol industry itself encourages and rewards them. For example, the most tragic episode of idol culture, is when a certain Idol got caught having a boyfriend, and she was encouraged by her agency to make a public apology by also shaving her whole head in Repentance.
People decide to hate first and then try to come up with reasons why they hate. That's how hate works.
I hate how I can relate to this
brooooooooo, I know like I've seen countless of times people saying after some drama involving someone "yeah, this guy never gave me a good vibe for some reason" or something like that like justifying a pre-established "hate" they've got against someone, it's crazy
I hate you
People hate because of course: if someone are not popular its impossible to get an collab and only who are getting some attention because its an "streamer" are getting a collab, this is a discrimination and its understandable so cant deny the hate.
@@skyuru A collab is something streamers can only do with other streamers. How is that discrimination lmao. That's like saying being straight is discrimination because one does not consider members of their own gender as potential partners.
It's been over 2 years since he jumped head-first into the rabbit hole, and he continues to be fucking based.
I admire his consistency. He's proven not just with words, but with his actions how to support your oshis.
He's also giving his all to make his collab partners have a fun time regardless of the language used.
He's the kind of Vtuber fan that we can all learn a thing or two about. big props to him.
Honestly, not the biggest fan of Rpr myself, his interactions with streamers in the community can be pretty hilarious, but I gotta say I’m glad that he spoke out about this. The whole parasocial (borderline psychotic) viewers is insanely toxic for the streamers and viewers and we lose a ton of what could be gold mine content because of it. So even though I’m not particularly a fan of his, massive props to him for being based on this.
imagine the collab that could be happening if theres no parasocial "fans" and drama they create, we can get so much content to watch, theres no need to wait 1 year or more for this person and this person to collab, even tho both person already hinting they want to collab with each other but there will be no collab coz of those so called "knight"
I think instead of "call up" he said "collab". Same with "anti" earlier in the clip, I think he said "Andy" (it's a twitch thing).
Also, rpr is incredibly based for this clip
Man really knew what he wanted to say and was saying in that moment. Respect to RPR for that.
Hearing about the Selen issue is very surprising to me. Axel/TSB is what properly introduced me to her and I've been casually watching her ever since, especially because I love her banter and vibes so much. I never caught wind of that some of the Dragoons were like that. I obviously haven't known her since debut, but from her personality and some early days clips I've seen, it seems impossible to me that she hasn't been like this since day 1. So you'd think people knew what they were getting into, yet some still get mad about it.
Every online personalities will inevitably have those kinds of fan no matter what they do. It's how each of them react to their parasocial fans.
Fun fact, selen has never given fan-service that would gather those kind of people. She never even acknowledge the parasocial kind of fans. But those kind of fans still exists though less prominent for the other fans.
Her toxic persona is a day 1 thing up to now. Basically what rpr says. It is either deluded people that lack social intelligence, or just troll and hate-baiter.
Yeah i never saw those kind of Dragoons... should i even call them Dragoons at this point, i feel like not giving them Dragoons anymore.
I think the whole thing with some fans hating on RPR was that one rank session when Selen ended up getting discouraged and just left the session, and some dragoons definitely took it way too personally and started throwing hate at RPR and making a ton of assumptions on their friendship as if they knew her personally. I think I've also seen a couple of Nocturnal haters bc of how often he plays with her and other delusional shit, but I personally love watching her interactions and banter with other people. In the end some "fans" really just need to understand that she's a full grown woman who can take care of herself and doesn't need a bunch of faceless nobodies on the internet misinterpreting her relationships with her friends and doing weird shit "for her sake" cause that's legitimately just creepy.
The Dragoon fanbase in general is pretty chill though
same, I dont know anyone who hates rpr, we love the dude
I like how he talks about the Selen fans hating their bantering. That's so sad to hear, those interactions got me into being a RPR fan and eventually a fan of Pro Apex content and ALGS
I'm on my 30s and I feel old so I only consume things that make me happy. So I think people who got time to just hate on something and waste time for it is just immature
Greetings fellow wizard
Same I cut hate really fast
And a younger guy like me thinking the same thing...hoping they're just young teens and not some dude in his 30s or 40s or older acting like a child.
30 is old now? damn... i thought your old till 40 or 50
If I was him, I'll do more collabs just to piss off those types of fans even more.😂😂😂😂
Glad you are not a streamer with your toxic behavior 😂😂
I see, the Vesper maneuver
@@memberstruston pissing off brainless hating apes is never toxic, they dont deserve human rights in the first place
That is basically what he is doing, but instead he doesn't care.
@@memberstrustonI mean, it's not good to let toxic jerks run your life. Unfortunately, some people can't handle the hate they might get..but it's his own life and career and he should do what he wants. 🤷♂️
RPR is a champ bro. I didnt realize how it can get as just someone trying to play games with other streamers. Crazy to hear people can be this way, but glad that RPR has this kind of outlook. Seriously, what a champ.
Wtf, Iv'e been watching Selen for nearly 2 years and I love that she banters with everyone, she's literally one of the boys. The first collab with her and rpr was fantastically hilarious. I miss their once a week horror streams too. I guess I just don't read chat enough during her collabs with dudes cause I didn't realize rpr got flack for that.
Although I definitely agree as a consistent nijiEN watcher we have a lot of parasocial people, honestly I think it's worse in the boys chats but maybe that's a jaded view since I watch mostly the girls in en.
I don't think you'll see it in chat. Selen's mods will time a person out immediately and she has damn good mods. I think that stuff pops up on Doscord and on Twitter, mostly Twitter (of course)
Kronii used to get with this a lot too, her collab with Vesper went apeshit sideways when her subs went into his stream and started hurling insults and whatnot at him.
I think that hit a turning point for Hololive to not take the BS anymore, because historically in Japan these parasocials are called gachikois, and they're just really passionate about their love for their idols. But it's evident that these people were hurting and causing Holomems a lot of stress.
@@EndoftheBeginning17Honestly mad respect for Kronii because i genuinely love all the collabs she done
Also, everytime i see Selen doing anything, i keep remembering Coco for some reason because just like Coco, Selen REALLY want to do a lot of things not just for herself, but for others regardless if they are Nijis or not, EN or JP
Its why i kinda wished the Holo Girls start to think they should grow collectively and not individually, soo far i only see Pekora of all people attempting to do it alongside Suisei, Matsuri, Sora, Fubuki, and Roboco alongside few more i probably missed
Oh yeah and all of the Holo ID's are mad based for trying to connect with a lot of people
Holo Stars is also full of trying to make and share contents together which end up being more fun than individualism
Im aware i sound selfish AF but yeah.... i dont see Cover being strict just the Girls THINKING they are being held back by management when in reality they are helding themself back
This age so well when Mysta announced his graduation 😢
oof yeah had to check the date to when this was streamed to see if it was before or after the announcement.
i mean rpr has rid off global toxic now.
Unfortunately these extreme parasocial individuals aren't limited to a specific community. Those fans exist in all forms of entertainment like sports, movie, music and etc. The best way to deal with them is to ignore their sad existence no matter how desperately they are trying to attract attention. Maybe also hope they receive professional mental health care
oh boy... especially in sports... because u see even on tv media personalities who are openly simping or/and hating current and former athletes... the freaking debate on who's the GOAT in nba is one example of it... u see a lebron hater/jordan simp in skip then the jordan hater/lebron simp on nick wright...
edit: u can also see them in politics... and that one im not even gonna have to give an example
The worst thing is they are among the ones that bring the most money. Just like with a generator, if you want to use the energy you need to deal with the noise and smoke.
oh sports fans can be CRAZY crazy. heck I've seen reports that domestic violence increases at homes during relevant sports events in Australia for instance.
@@CHNO-kk4rl I think that's why Nijisanji fans are so toxic. I've seen a few vids where the Luxiem wave is shown to have the most parasocial communities of all.
I was watching Mystas stream announcing his graduation and three quarters of it, was "I love you, Mysta" and I got the vibe that these were the parasocial women that Nijisanji had catered to in order to get them to part with their Super Chat money.
On the other end you get Rosemi, where her fanbase would absolutely have attempted to protect her from all the "bad" things because she grew up sheltered. Good thing for her Nina, Enna, Millie and Elira all live near her so she can go visit and hang with them. The thing is with her she has cultivated an online persona that is quite innocent appearing, despite the fact she swears like a trucker (she just modifies the words to make it more cute), but she does let loose with actual barrages from time to time, she malds. She doesn't have Feesh level experiences but she's not an idiot.
I don't think you can do it when it comes to certain things business wise, i mean let's face it those people are the ones probably paying most of garbage from streamers
When people can't do something themselves, its just envy. They may be jealous but deep down they are very envious of the fact that someone else who is just like them is doin exactly what they want to do. Living out their dreams in 4k live right in front of them. Its not just fans or stans, this is current era of people that are being created. I don't watch rpr but when I randomly pull up on his stream because he collabs with Kohaku hes always studying Japanese. Just for that you gotta respect that he's doing his best to be respectful of an entire country. But you don't see these npcs doing anything lol. No stream. Not good at games. Not good at their own language. Not even trying. Just making trouble and being a bad example for their favorite streamer. Shameful.
Exactly. There is many kind of fans being like that. Jealous and envy. I mean, i do want to play with my favorite streamers and vtubers. And i never get the chance. In the end, i just finishing the match and just watch their stream. That's it. I'm happy just to know that sometimes they notice my chat. Because i am their viewer. Not protector, not manager, not their parrent. I'm watching their content. Not dating their content.
Rpr is a chill guy and understands boundaries, i also found out about rpr from Kohaku's apex streams and their interactions are always so good. Im glad rpr is a stoic man and doesen't let the npcs bother him.
You can't really call that "just like them" atp then, if you really want to get into the jp stream and vtuber circles it takes a lot of work and luck ofc. Rpr is lucky that he decided to go pro in apex which is japanese dominated, but it also took work to get there.
Even beyond that rpr isn't some chronically online guy that doesn't go outside, so there really is no comparison.
@@ChronicalV Its not luck at all when you're an apex pro player. If you really desired to be in the jp circles, you need to know where you stand in the community. Apex has such a small community of pros even though its a AAA game.
1. Theres not a lot of BRs to compete with. 2 Since Apex is not a "hot" game for pro players the chances of getting any spotlight is high. NA rarely even has enough people for scrims. Which means more chances to get noticed by pro teams and players in the field. I mean the dude runs with holostars sometimes which is direct collabs to nijisan and hololive members. Pros have a special discord where if anyone wants to play they can link up. Also apex is one of the easiest and REALLY common games that pros play on different servers. Mainly because like we know, not alot of high skill players on all the time.
@@ChronicalV Im not trying to downplay rpr hard work, but as someone one who use to help streamers get started with affiliations through understanding markets and opportunity, rpr is as smart as they come. and like another commenter said his stoic attitude combined with hard work is so refreshing you can't help but root for the guy. look at his chat now, even japanese chatters are helping him study. Its really fucking cool to see. I can go on for days but yep thats the jist lol.
this is pretty funny for me having experienced it first hand on some comment section from a clip. some Amaimon guy trying to gatekeep collabs between VSPO and Hololive just because he doesnt want his beloved VSPO girls to be exposed to what he thinks is a "Cringe" idol mentality while he is blinded from the fact that the VSPO girls sells merch and stuff with that "Idol Mentality" lolol
I'm GLAD RPR SAID THIS! I don't hate Yuri or Yaoi vibes, but whenever I see it, it's really uncomfortable reading the chat most of the time because people expect them to be something together when they don't.
The world has been so toxic for years until RPR comes out saying it. mission success. the toxic of the world rates dropped to 0%
the yuri and yaoi fans are fking weird, at least some of the them, more so the yuri fans, the yaoi fans to a lesser extent at least in my experience, they always want everyone to flirt with the same sex, as if they've never heard of a platonic relationship, not surprising since those probably don't have friends irl
@@akira8393the toxic shipper outed itself 🤣
i was a hateful toxic person but ever since rpr came out, i can no longer live anymore. - toxic shipper@@f.b.l.9813
JP viewers respected him for speaking out against people calling Vsai (or whichever tournament got him into it) cringe back when he was new to it, so I wonder if this also got picked up by his JP/CN clippers. It was fun to see the comments championing him as someone who'd speak his mind without fear of backlash.
Anyway, yeah, trust your fav streamers to be able to think for themselves and act accordingly. If they don't, they don't, but if you're not actually in their life, they don't want your input like that.
Vsaikyo? Why does he call them out? Im out of the loop on this one
@@ajiqo No, what happened was rpr was enjoying watching competitive vtuber apex for the first time and some of his viewers said it was cringe anime stuff, and rpr went off on them like he does in this video because his main goal is to have a good time with likeminded people and not waste his time and energy on idiots. It's kinda hard to find the specific JP compilation vid, but it was probably around late spring 2021 if Vsaikyo doesn't change its date much from year to year. They referred to it as "rpr構文" in comments and probably found his rant cathartic.
@@Raidanzoupoh yeah i remember this one... He chewed his viewer on that one. I think he said something like if you don't like the content that i watch then leave, there are plenty of streams you can choose instead of being a dick. I'm paraphrasing but it's something like that.😊
@@ajiqo rpr was former pro-APEX so his fans were mostly fans for the pro-APEX scene so they didn't think that a Vtuber APEX competition is worth getting interested over
As a nijisanji fan. Im glad rpr is so based. No matter what its hard to handle all the hate. Im glad nijisanji still has him as a friend. Its sad thinking that nijisanji has to feel bad collabing with others.
it takes calling based for having common sense while bitching... like how inspirational
RPR has the right mindset that many streamers don't have. You just have to ignore the haters. You will always have haters, and they will never like you or be your fan. So don't bother about them, and keep doing your own thing. Even if that thing itself can turn your fans into haters, but if that's the case, were they really your fans in the first place?
I personally love RPR's collabs with just about everyone, but vtubers especially. It's funny as hell. It's always fun when everyone (mostly selene), rags on each other.
I like Hollywood can't have that mindset but then it's fine if streamers does it. "Why should i give shit. your just a bigot." because yes clearly they have to agree to everything to me if they're my fans
Banter is Selen's literal language, people who "protect" her from whoever she talks to are f*cking weird. We all know how she got hurt by her former gamer friends and to see her being able to talk and be friendly with people comfortably should be happy for her, not "get mad for her" over literally nothing. And yes, rpr is right, NijiEN fans are especially parasocial AF
i mean have you seen the kinds of things they do? you don't really have to think much as to what kind of audience are. at least with hololive, they know the audience are and chose to be a little better than nijisanji talents😂
Have you ever seen Hololive fans lose it? The only reason they don't seem as bad as Niji's at first is because the company polices their behavior and collabs so as not to set off the overwhelming insanity lurking within their ranks. They barely let their male and female branches interact outside of EN, and even they are pretty limited. Like people who were friends before Cover (the "HoloSalt" collab group, for instance). And they still go fucking mental when *that* happens. Omg, when Altare made Kronii flustered ONE time during their first collab, mildly challenging her like "put up or shut up" kind of thing, they had a complete meltdown.
@@Knight-Bishop They go fucking unhinged, never forget the Rushia incident.
@@Knight-Bishop Hololive and Kronii actually having to release a statement on collabs after that Stars-Live collab, and now them barely collabing at all despite being in the same company?
Actually, I wonder why the heck we still don't have "official" sexuality statements from the livers when so many Nijisanji members are open about it. I hate how Uki fans treat him and others (as stated on the video, some "fans" fucking shit on straight males that interact with him), but thanks goodness he is open about being gay (Pomu is bi, Finana is bi, Fulgur is bi, Scarle is ace, Maria is bi, Vox is bi, Aia is gay, these are all admitted on stream, who cares, they don't bring this up all the time anyway). If you know who Magni is, he is openly and proudly bisexual in his other identity, idk why, in over a year, he (Magni) hasn't spoken about it.
For fucks sake, bro... I fucking love Hololive, but hurts how restrictive they seem to act. Sexuality talk and normalization... idk I am biased, I guess? "Sexual orientation is political and problematic" bullshit...
gotta love rpr’s japanese speaking progress
It's crazy how fast RPRs network keeps growing. He is friends with so many people and they genuinely respect him.
He knows what's up and more guys should follow his example of not being a creep
I maybe be naive and sht but i never thought that RPR gets hate to that extent. Even though ive only watched him with collabs together with my fave vtubers it was always so fun and i know the streamer im watching is enjoying it as well so that's always such a fun stream to watch, thats why i never thought of like him getting hate cuz everytime you see a clip of him together with someone its always so goddamn funny or iconic... Parasocial fans are literally like poison to the streamer and for the community
Omg those parasocial “dragoons” probably hate nocturnal so much and NiceWigg since Selen’s besties with them. Rpr the real one
I wouldn't even call them dragoons, like seriously. They don't deserve that title, they're no fans of her if they act like that.
oh no Axel is in danger as well. he spent quite a long time yesterday with her in gta 😂
i mean the boys already got hate talking hololive girls😂
I have never really watched you, just clips and stuff but it was so fun watching how you grow from simping for Towa to having a whole new circle of streamers to play with. I honestly think a lot of people that hate on you are just jealous of how good you are with people and your social skills. Like they definitelyetly would not accomplish the same even if they were in your position. I just love it every time i see a clip of you bantering with Selen and especially the times you play with Towa like on that Rust server, that was so danm wholesome. Keep doing what you love and what you are good at and let the parasocials dry out in their lonlyness.
Well spoken. This is why I like him even tho I rarely watch his stream.
Yo! Though this comment is already 5 days in. Already having my plate full with watching most of the hololive, a bit of niji, a bit of Phase connect, and a select few of several notably good Indies especially to particular games like Overwatch, Legend of Zelda, and retro. After watching some of your interactions and hilarious antics in VCRGTA can't help but add you to the plate as well. This is like a dine in at a Golden Corral for the senses. Great Content!
As a Niji EN fan this makes me very sad... The talents are already having trouble with their own company, they don't need some parasocial bullshit to limit them even further...
Those parasocials ended Mysta's career. Just never forget that.
they cultivate this kind of fans so they get what they want
@@kuntul5889yeah. that's just streamers are really
And Rpr isn't even the only indie/outside of niji that's had to deal with this stupidity. Shoto has stated he's had to stop all.collabs with vtubers with nijisanji (Vox especially) because the fans complete ruined it for them.
I wanna just say, I had my experience and this is smtg I've mentioned before with others in my discord circles.
And.. it's also rpr-related. Just a bg, i am currently a long term Kenzoku, been a member for over 2 years and Towa is definitely one of my 2 Kami-oshis, the other being Aqua. You guys can see where this is going..
Aqua was the one that introduced me to Apex. Towa was the one that introduced me to tourneys and the JP scene. I generally harbor no feelings when she collabs with guys and does her thing. But one western Apex pro decided one day to watch the CR Cup, and all of a sudden, he's having collabs with Towa, interacting with her and stuff.
It ticked me off back then.. Why didn't I get my chance, this guy just hopped in and got all the glory. I realized I was fkin parasocial. I didn't openly interact with chat like this guy in the clip did but it was a feeling that irked me for some reason that didn't occur when she interact with other male streamers.
I kinda talked to a friend about this and I had a change of perspective and mindset and I even started to love myself more. I don't even realise how bigoted I was back then with that mentality and looking back at it now, I didn't exactly hurt anyone or made anyone feel weird but I personally felt like fkin loser and idk, it's just nice to share this story once in a while, especially funny how the Lam bigot could've been me
I was somewhat similiar. Lying to yourself and making excuses to justify this weird behavior / mindset. But being able to admit these mistakes and understanding that this isn't normal can definitely turn a person for the better.
I totally agree with what he said, I've seen so much NIJISANJI fans who hate when ppl Collab with their oshis, I know bc I'm an NIJISANJI fan and I've encountered many 1st hand. No one wins bc they hate when their oshi collabs with fleshtuber, they hate with their oshis Collab with fellow vtubers but outside the company, they hate when they Collab with vtuber in or out the company but opposite sex, and when they don't collab with ppl for along time they are mad bc they want their oshi to Collab with this and that vtuber. It's always L, that's why we shouldn't ignore those ppl and just enjoy everything your oshi gives you. They are entertainers, but they are adult humans too, they can do anything they want. Also, I'm not saying only NIJISANJI fans, I think almost all fanbase have those kinds of trash ppl. It's annoying but just ignore and block
i mean the look of it all is when you do all by yourself, people are into you. have another person shoves the chat to the left. doing it in a year, they got used to it. then breaking that, would get people pissed.
it's like how because kobo always stream with altare, people start asking him why he didn't collab with kobo by the time he does solo stream.
it's just what it is with streaming. if you don't want to deal with it. moght as well give it to the ai.
@@akira8393 that's why ppl just need to ignore them unless the spam chat bc i'll always be a lose-lose situation., but just so disrespectful. It's okay if they genuinely asking why they don't collab anymore but chatting "you should stop collabing with this and that and only collab with this" ahem old voxto shippers ahem and harassing people, you just want to just punch those chatters through their screens.
Yeah i agree VSPO is has the most chill fans out there as a corpo vtuber
I just remember the JP viewer give red sc to ollie just to scold her for inviting the holojp girls to her arcade tournament. Like wtf bro. She's just want them to have fun and the male is holostars too. Its not like they are outsiders and this guy being mad for something like this.
I mean you're saying like you don't know what the fanbase are
r- oji is likeour cool uncle that we never see, but always gives you the best life lessons whenever he does show up at the family meeting.
Well said rpr
I also a beeg huge fan of Towa-sama.. To me, I don't care what Towa-sama do as long as she's happy with it.. That's why I choose her as my oshi because she can do what mostly hololive girls cannot do..
You mean just being a streamer. yeah it is rare
it's crazy seeing this and then mysta announces graduation. i really feel bad for the people who get this kind of flak.
Sometimes it felt like the viewers consider themselves to be more important than the streamer. As if their choice and opinions matter and affects what the streamer can and cannot do. Which is true to some extend, but not entirely. Some streamers already have their own managers and staff dealing with what they can and cannot do, they dont need random person from chat telling them that plus several more.
This is obviously different for streamers that decide to pander to the chat because chat = money to them. They are on a separate category to what rpr and most streamer are in.
Wait ...i didnt known Selen 'fans' that hate on rpr or anyone who banters with her exists....
She's my oshi and i didnt think she's a type of streamer that can attract those type of 'fans' but i guess they really do exist everywhere
I love rpr and watching him interact or collaborate with vtubers is a great joy for me as well. I hope people realize that they're causing emotional distress to their oshis.
i mean just look at how 4chan is doing for every collab...
Thank you for clipping !!!!!!
Some people made a catalogue of hate for vtubers because they thought the banter between vtubers was like throwing insults each other. For example Nina and Calli, they got a full catalogue of how they ruined collab eventhough its only banter between members
rpr doesn't deserve the hate :/
yeah no shit. he is asking for it😂
@@akira8393
No he isn’t. You daf;t or something?
@@lethithuyhang-dv3ho there is no shot that you would pretend to be this dumb to not know how the fans react when you collab with other vtubers, like you know it's shit and you wanna do it anyways, that's just asking for it
Watching RPR fall into the rabbit hole was an awesome experience, speaking as a Towa fan. It's crazy to see how much has happened and how ingrained RPR has made himself in the community, now I don't watch RPR, I generally don't care for his stream, kind of abrasive, too much yelling at randoms in chat for my taste, but he does have my respect, and I enjoy seeing him whenever he happens to show up in a stream Towa is doing, like the recent VCR GTA server.
I say this as a NIJI fan, but rpr is literally correct about fans in the NIJI community. Completely unrelated to rpr, but remember when Shoto first interacted with the Luxiem boys? He literally got so much hate because the amount of “fangirls” Luxiem had went to harass Shoto because he’s an “attention whore” or a “clout chaser” for even playing with them. Like, hello? He just wants to be friends with them. It’s not that hard to comprehend.
Literally a couple months back, majority of NIJIEN went to Japan to keep their minds off of the cancelled concert that they were going to do. Shu met Minase, and someone brought up how Shoto would’ve loved to meet Minase. Guess what happened? This literally caused a bunch of Shoto haters(Luxiem fans) to harass the person who made the comment, and they started saying nasty shit and untrue drama that never occurred between Luxiem and Shoto. They will literally say anything to attack people that will interact with NIJI talents, specifically NIJIEN talents.
i mean the guys ask for it with just the shit they make. shoto himself has the same fanbase. Instagram have tons of crap of people simping him if you type vtuber.
@@akira8393 Damn bro. How much time and energy are you going to spend hating on the talents? Are you that sad and pathetic in your life that you have nothing better to do? You are just as bad as those “fans” that hate people interacting with their oshis.
This whole segments is just straight up facts from second 1, perfect resume on how stupid people can be.
I loved the interaction between him and froot, zen vs rpr banter were chaos and it so fun to watch, same with Selen very entertaining moment.
4:50 HOLY BASEDDDDDDDDD
A little bit of correction is at 0:59 rp said Andys instead of Antis
yep RPR i wonder why there's OOB (out of bounds) inside firing range... apex is weird man.
I genuinely feel bad for those people. Some messed up shit is happening to them in their lives i just hope it gets resolved. 🙏
This is why I love RPR
When people think gachikoi only exist in japan never heard the story of people like britney spears
what nahh... only vtubers deal with this shit... i dunno what you're talking about
i think shirayuki tomoe like a month ago also made a short (live?) video telling clearly how she doesnt appreciate hate on her collab partner, too bad the translation on comment is gone because comments are blocked. these vtubers are just wanna have fun, not toxic parasocial shit.
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most of these toxic viewers are so loud that the good respectable fans are drowned by the loud toxicity
i mean the vtuber fanbase is like any streamer fanbase. it is social media afterall. i dunno having to said not give a damn but bitch 8 minutes because of one guy. honestly that's an achievement
Kirarin V~
didn't expect Selen to have those kinds of gachikois considering her content
Aight, subbing to rpr now
100% agree with everything he said. this is why i love RPR
RPR so based for this. I love Nijisanji so much, but there is SO much hate and toxicity in the community that's genuinely unmatched. I genuinely don't understand how people feel comfortable saying some of the shit that they say. It's always really refreshing when someone like this speaks on this, because I'm assuming the talents themselves have to be careful about what they say. So this is awesome lmfao
yeah much like vshojo but the vshojo girls only cares for the fans that includes the white knights. Not so much people that from the outside that wants to join or those that left.
Just imagine the ammount of hate he must get for interacting with Towa. Fortunatelly he have an healthy outlook and dont mind the haters, it's easier said than done though.
I dont see a solution for this, unfortunatelly, the same ppl that gives the most ammount of money to the streamers are also the most insane and unhealthy ones too.
The corporation will allways choose the money over the mental health of the streamer, it's either endure or leave.
I mean it's not that bad, at least from where he's saying at least. he's not getting ones like the others where you have addresses doxxed or cars scratched or arson. i mean him bitching bout the mean things people say, I honest take it as a blessing
It's not really just corpos let's be real, some streamers do rely on the parasocial shit. his case, he can do just fine with being an eSports player whereas everyone else who's product is the personality, parasocial is what pays for it
It is jealousy. Some unicorns WISH they could play a game or chat personally with their oshi.
i mean they pay for it in the first place 😂
I knew rpr lately due to his interaction with some Vtuber talents in some gaming streams, and I’d say that he’s quite fun and I wish more people can be a chill as this dude in term of building friends with community
i mean why not have ai copies of him.
RPR is living the dream though and he well deserves it. He actually interacts with them without being a creep and has good rep among vtubers and apex players. Ignore the parasocial toxic simps.
unless you get caught doing something bad and everyone throws you under the bus. but hey let's just wish for the best
@@akira8393ya no shit that happens wdym
Mad respecc for RPR🤝
I spat my drink when rpr said "beef" and Nazuna suddenly appeared lmao.
Love RPR
Its a damn shame that this happens as often as it does. If it weren't for Selen I wouldnt have been introduced to Rpr, Noct, or IPN. All of them are awesome.
To hear that some of her fans are harassing them for talking to them is just embarrassing. I had thought we were better than that, but i should've known better. I hope all these weirdos are eventually weeded out of all communities, especially the Niji fandom. Those losers arent doing anyone any favors.
I mean that's just streaming is baby
@@akira8393 Exactly, and that's the problem. This applies to all content creators. That's some loser shit no matter how you split it. Just because it happens doesn't mean that's how it should be.
It's really sad to think of how many cool collabs we've been and will be robbed of because of "fan" bullshit.
I mean it's just what streaming is really. in the end of it is just social media. while streamer looks at numbers the fans looks at the streamer. i mean another thing you van try is swapping everything with ai.
I need more based rpr takes
I would do more collab to make those haters pissed off
or just use ai if you're that much of a bitch
im glad he collabs with them he brings the gamer out of them to the table imo
huh, i never knew there was this whole niji fans having that kind of rep, but i do know about parasocial fans getting out of hand since ive seen it in a different fandom and being there to see it was scary.. and always made me second guess about my state of mind
there always has been that since jp and got worse with luxiem
I mustve been in a different part of the community because i was under the impression that almost all the viewers of the people arupi collabs with love the interactions. ppl that police their streamer really just spoil the fun for everyone
i mean a bigger spoil if you have one cop able to make RPR bitch for 8 minutes, quite the accomplishment
I'm not familiar with nijisanji or en in general as I only watch hololive jp and some indies but I can say that even in hololive there's that kind of parasocial people.
Just like when Miko got raided in RUST and some people got mad at the members who did the raiding. ( like this guy @spectrum90)
I also remember that one guy on Aki's that got really mad when Aki's Reaper died due to Aki playing the she wanted but that one guy kept saying Aki should have listen to her viewers.
That guy kept saying in chat that he's mad that the Reaper died and won't calm down for 10 minutes even when Aki was really fine losing her Reaper.
Rpr being the best boy I love you man
Damn.. one of us dragoon were a dumbass? Iam sad. I think that guy was an exception. And we dragoons not acknowledged him as one of us
My boi keeping it real
The worst part is the same "We must protecc our oshi!" parasocials are the ones who often harm their oshis the most. By being demanding and bitching about things that their oshi wanted to do but the parasocials don't want them to (ie collabs and certain projects, or taking breaks). Like, BE FOR REAL, your oshi needs protection from YOUR DELUSIONAL ASS.
i mean getting them to quit is one way to do it. another is terrifying them. either way it gets what they want really.
Gwen's dad is saved from canon event by not being captain anymore😂
Yoo never thought the reason why selen and rpr rarely collab on stream were like this, man as a person who love seeing banter between rpr and selen, this making me sad....
Just damn man, why gachikoi's act up like this bro....
I was listening seriously and that Nazuna entrance cracked me up 😂😂😂
So weird to hear that Dragoons didn't like their banter, Selen literally does that with everyone, even with her senpai like Kanae.
Pretty sure those aren't Dragoons we love RPR for the entertainment he brings to us. It's always pure comedy when they interact with each other! I miss their collabs, now I sort of understand why it's so hard to collab with Nijisanji livers these days.
i mean some prefer calli's stream and not really the music. to each their own i guess
This is why i feel more moderators are needed. Stuff like that should earn you an instant ban. I'm so done with parasocial morons who think they've "gotten" / "understood" certain social rules and are trying to make themselves look mature or cool by acting like that. They're immature children that need to be taught a lesson, not ignoring them so they can keep doing it .....
or have ai become the streamers. i rather have it at this point
This is how part of the fandom is they are not sane in their minds
i mean a fan that is willing to watch shit streams and buy cheap merch. i mean yeah, they are legit crazy
It should've been me, not him!
its not fair!
"just win an ALGS championship and learn japanese while you're at it" EZPZ ahaha then follow it up with "just skill issue bro" and boom the best response to these people ahahah
@@benja9029"totally not bother by the toxic fanbase"
When RPR was talking about the importance of being unique he almost said "be yourself" but caught himself and changed it to be "be your own person". It's a small but important distinction.
seems pretty much the same
Rpr is so based collabing two of my oshis what a chad, now rpr is my oshi
When the word "protect" goes so far that it becomes "trash" 🤦
It's almost on every side fandom on earth.
They just “Envy” with you that's all. Everyone want to be in your spot because you connected to all of their fav and be friends with them. And they expect an Ikemen to be worthy friends with them.
PARASOCIAL Creep.
*VSPO FANS THE GOAT, THEY DON'T GIVE A DAMN*
i mean when you have another, the chat is shoved elsewhere. that's most streamer I've seen
Rpr is my now spirit streamer, I just don't really get these toxic mindset of these crazy fans, but hey. If I just wanna enjoy watching without minding any of those drama bs, turning off the live chat. Like, bro let the streamers decide for themselves, we literally have no control over them, we're all supporters, not friends or even in a relationship with any of them. We're all just viewers, if the streamer does state that they value viewers like how they value their friends, then that's good. But even so, never speak for them for they have their own choices, own life, and is not needed of protection as rpr stated. Interacting with other people is better for them be it opposite/same/other gender, for it is a way to create bonds. We're fans for fck sake, we want them happy, not afraid, traumatized, in constant fear whenever they want to stream something with someone. I'd rather watch Vtubers who collabs with those they want to collab whilst having fun, rather than watch them fake their happiness so fans won't go out their way and possibly mess something up for their streamers.
It's happening everywhere, parasocial sickos is everywhere not only in niji. holo, vspo even the indies vtuber have that kind of fans
i mean it's vtubing in general
this feels like a standard case of jealousy of the fans
yeah pretty much
I'm a hololive fan myself and other vtubers and I don't mind my oshis interacting with other streamers because its for their sake also and content why hate people collab or interacting with them that are just stupid , get some life man if you're like that person 👍 man rpr deserve love not have I respect him for allowing himself fall into the rabbit hole and for learning Japanese to interact with his oshi and that's fckng respectable man why hate this man .. if your a fan of vtuber or any other streamer you're just there for contents and there's a line that you cannot cross as a fan😮💨
i mean if they have a life, they won't spend shit with them to begin with. i rather have them pay the bills cuz aint no way im buying merch with that price
Interesting Mysta was mentioned here
THIS. RPR words are correct and many Vtubers should listen to this. "HATERS DO NOT WATCH YOUR STREAMS" they are not your audience, and they will NEVER be your audience. So Frick them. They are not worth your attention and your feelings.
Wait... I thought Selen's fans love Noc and RPR? Is it a twitter thing or something? I only see dumb people in Selen's chat which includes me but is there actually a lot of haters just for interacting with Selen?
It's unfortunate but negative vibes have a much greater impact than positive ones. I haven't been watching nearly as many streams as I used to and spend even less time on Twitter but from what I've seen the vast majority of Selen's viewers are chill. The hardcore parasocial ones do exist though.
man speak facts
since when vtuber fans' opinions has started to matter
Rpr is awesome.
I love banter not drama
What a waste of air for these haters! Those toxic fans have never grown up since they're shut-ins and parasocial individuals.
-I'm glad that Millie's community is not like this.
It’s just parasocial obsessive people in general. It’s not just vtubers. For example, celebrities, idols. People often forget they’re regular people too just because they give them content or they are put in a pedestal that they didn’t ask for. But it’s specially bad for vtubers because they’re behind an avatar, a model.
But with all of the mentioned, obsessive fans want to control everything from the content creator. Who they’re allowed to hang out with, how they talk to people, heck, even what they think or what they can say. At the end of the day, they best you can do is just ignore it and move on. Like, we don’t even know how old is the person behind the keyboard. Are they kids? Teenagers?
id say most vtubers are adults because if they're telling me that they might be kids. you're just giving the fans reasons by that point.
Ai is up there if you dont want to deal with it