Bungie wouldn't be stupid enough to release the documents....but definitely would have done the same bullshit Activision does with CoD in modern days. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the old Bungie Staff were at Activision now working on CoD.
Nope it's a Microsoft title now. They don't care about sales. They drive all their games into a ditch and act like things are going good because gamepass sales are up
@@chadmichael_ no it wont. This is clockworks for CoD players. Remember when everyone was like "WERE NOT BUYING THE NEW CALL OF DUTY BECAUSE THEY SHUT DOWN THE MODS" then they went and bought the game anyways and said GUYS ITS ACTUALLY DECENT. It's the same shit every year. The CoD community is dumber than the Battlefield community, atleast the Battlefield fans know not to pre-order garbage and will boycott a game
I don’t get why they feel the need to hide skill to begin with. I just want to know if I’m really as bad as I feel like I am these days or if I’m actually going against really good players. What’s so hard about that
I'm convinced if you're slightly above average they just toss you in the sweat lobbies. Oh you can go 30-4 for two games in a row? Here's a lobby with Pamaj (which I DID get into on his team and clipped). Sweatiest lobby ever just for being decent and not even a pub stomping God.
This. They are so clearly match rigging and calling it skills-based matchmaking, but if it really was that they wouldn’t be show scared to show you what your skill ranking is…
Each rank has good and bad players Players barely hanging onto a rank So if your hidden MMR is good you will exclusivly get people hanging for dear life on to the rank, as your teammates. You could be Diamond 2 and get a diamond 3 teammate who is going from plat to Diamond every 4 games
This comment doesn't understand how mmr works Mmr + elo is simply used to slow down rank up speeds so that people can't climb beyond their skill by having a small win streak
Both other comments explained it very well...but think of it this way. You and I both have a B Grade...but you are a B+ and I'm a B- are both still B Grade. You're almost an A, maybe you had one bad test. The only thing keeping me above above a C+ is the extra credit assignment. The Game sees both of us as a B and in the same Bracket.
I gotta see the statistics. Cause they keep claiming this mmr system is keeping people on and playing, but everyone I talk to say they can only play 3-5 games before they get off. Shit isn’t making sense
3-5 games a day, each day is still fulfilling their strategy. Imagine burning through it all within 6 days then take a whole month playing something else. With the pure frustration people suffer through to drop the game for that day - they will come back to continue the cycle again later since it encourages short bursts of Gametime. If a few players do it 8hrs + that's only a net benefit to Activision etc.
I don't even play ranked after I realised there's hidden mmr lol, literally no point. I also play very little pubs because sbmm is so tiring, I just get a gun gold then hop off, and that's like every 3 days lol, only got like 30 hours since the game launched. Don't know exactly who this system encourages to stay on and play more, has to be regards.
3-5 games is what they do cause of skill based damage you win like 4/5 cause your good rest of your games you will lag get killed by random stuff spawn away from your team…etc
I want to hit crim but only getting 20 sr a win even on purple streaks is mad annoying and makes me not want to play. I have been getting 20 sr since i got plat 3 and just to make it to diamond took a pretty long time
As a very casual player this shit legit means nothing to me I play for a few games every few nights for a bit of fun and that’s it. That beating said this is bullshit for anyone playing professionally/hardcore and even myself if I play well for 2-5 games I get into god lobby’s so whatever they’re trying to do isn’t working for either form of player
There’s instances where my buddies and I will have a good game or two then we just end up getting off for the day to avoid the crazy ass SBMM lobbies after the game realizes we’re all having fun.
@@TheDarkYoshi64After my second time doing that this year, I realized that the game was just bad and uninstalled it 😂 Thank god for gamepass lol. Not a dollar spent
Isn't the entire game's matchmaking rigged against us? Not just ranked? I mean the ranked experience isn't any different than pubs in my personal experience other than the ruleset. Which makes me wonder why there even is a ranked and unranked mode. Should just have CDL rules as a playlist instead of a whole mode if the pubs aren't actually going to be random fun encounters like old CoD.
It’s crazy I would watch this dude post Eugene and feminist videos in 2016 with cod playing in the background, fast forward 2025 and he still is playing COD
@@omars1369 In his defense this is kind of his job. His audience likes cod, he streams cod, and then uses the videos for commentary. I can't really blame him, if he played something else he'd kill his income.
@@ArmandoA-g3j Nah this isn't valid. It costs money to play video games. Money is very real. And if you don't get what you deserve after paying money then you have every right to complain. And I don't really play video games
This is why I stopped playing years ago, shit anti cheat, sbmm even in casual play is fuckin ridiculous, stale content, so sad to see that cod went down the fuckin drain
The most frustrating part of ranked for me is when I’m in silver or gold, because almost never play ranked. I load into games filled with platinum and diamond players, and despite achieving a positive KD and contributing the most to the objective, I still lose SR when we lose the match. The only reason for the loss is often that their team is simply better overall than mine. If good players could lose a game but still gain SR because their individual performance clearly demonstrates they’re above their current rank, it would make solo ranked play much more enjoyable and rewarding.
The cherry on top is that even if you become a turbo god, aim train until the sun sets, that just means you find more cheaters. L game and L to the people who continue to deny the rigged matchmaking, in pubs or ranked
They're manipulating every aspect of your games. Not just in ranked. That's what the packetburst, bad hitregistration and horrible spawns are all about.
Something I just don't understand about SBMM and all the recent cods, why include the nuke in game if no one can get it without cheesing matchmaking? That was the allure to mw2 back in the day. With current matchmaking there's really no point anymore.
Having a Hidden MMR and ranked completely defeats the purpose of it and having SBMM in quick play defeats the purpose of that the gameplay itself is not bad at all, but some of the things that are getting implemented to this game and how they’re getting implemented is just barbaric. I personally like placement matches as well because when your rank resets at a new season and everybody’s in bronze, someone like me can’t even play ranked for the first week or so because all the pros are in that level two and I know I cannot compete with that so I have to wait until they get out of that rank so then I can start. And with placement matches why not just skip over some of those ranks that you know you can.
I really hope my girlfriend hasnt done the dumbest thing and bought me this game in the morning. Ive told her not too but shes done it before at Christmas.
initially I was kinda irritated that this was even something people talked about. Then I remembered that when I enjoyed (and still played) COD, it was completely random. Thinking back on MW2, you would see an insane disparity between the best and worst players on the same team. Then they introduced SBMM which totally eliminated casual games, so people would tank their average over 5-10 matches to get another 2 or 3 matches of enjoyable low effort play. To counter that further, they just added another number but this time it can't be changed. All so they can sell more copies to people who genuinely suck at the game and buy the in game content. If the OG MW2 was monetized I would absolutely pay money for in game content, because I enjoyed the game and wanted to play it ALL the time. I haven't bought COD since 2019 and I don't plan to again, for this reason exactly. They should introduce a "casual" game mode with absolutely no match making whatsoever, I'd be interested to see how popular it is. They could even get metrics on whether higher or low skill people are playing it more frequently.
And they would never do it cause of money. They don’t care about a fair experience they just want to milk as much money as they possibly can with the least amount of effort
Remove MMR, Standardize SR with set bonuses for hitting specific metrics (Like K/D and objective score), Bring back the Create a Ranked team system from BOII League Play (Where 4 Stacks create a team with a name, are ranked MOSTLY AS a team and Primarily only play other 4 Stacks (unless a suitable team cannot be found, instead look for a slightly higher ranked 3 stack with higher skill solo player) Increase the number of total ranks to grind through. New Ranked ladder: Unranked I - V Tin I - V, Copper I- V, Iron I - V, Steel I - V, Bronze I - III, Silver I - III, - Gold I - III, Platinum I - III, Onyx I - III, Emerald I - III, Diamond I - III, Crimson I - III, Iridescent , Master (top 500), Grandmaster (top 100) EVERY SEASON Every rank above unranked V grants a calling card, Bronze and above gets character skins for their rank as soon as they reach it, Gold III and Above get Weapon Camo's based on their ranks, Diamond and above get the option to display their rank in all of multiplayer at end of their username (Shows in lobby and kill feed), Iridescent and above get weapon blueprints for EVERY Weapon allowed in Ranked play. This would make ranked more rewarding to play, drawing in more players hoping to earn these exclusive rewards. With a higher general player pool it would drown out number of cheaters making such run ins rare. And providing a buffer to catch them BEFORE they can interfere in the highest ranks. It would also Add more prestige to all the Current ranks, Gold SHOULD be a respectable rank but under current systems (ignoring MMR matchmaking) anything below Diamond = Bot, which is a joke. By having more ranks to grind through without hidden MMR, it will create a clearer distinction between rank skill levels finally adding meaning to being a Platinum player, ect. Bronze players SHOULD be decent (average cod Player) Gold Should be pretty damn good, and Onyx and above are Beasts -> Monsters -> GODS
It's not that they don't understand the solution, they intentionally created this system because the goal isn't a fair competitive game, it's to manipulate your emotions so you get addicted.
@@bogusshmogus1670 Oh I know, but if their goal is more engagement this would get that. If people feel cheated they leave, and that's the exact opposite of what they want. This suggestion would give more reason to keep playing (Longer grind + More rewards) Activision are just braindead.
@Lunacy_Phoenix yeah a lot of it is extreme theory that doesn't actually reflect in practice. Greed is probably a big factor here because they would definitely make tons of money if not more just by making a good fair game.
Ranked system is so stupid. I’m hard stuck at diamond 3 gaining around 20-25 sr for a win and losing around 35-40 for losses. Regardless of how I play. Basically never go negative. Even had a game where I went 39-12 where we won 250-63 and still only got 21 sr. Absolutely ridiculous
@@1-Werdexcept there you earn mmr at a stable rare more or less, i was getting 50-100 sr till plat 3 and now in plat 3 i was getting 20 sr cause its the rank the game thinks i should be, i am now diamond but it took soooo many games and i will probably stop here cause aint no way i make it to crim only getting 20 and loosing even more
@@rodrigocruz8548 yes that's how mmr works If your sr is lower than your mmr you gain more until you catch up If it's higher you gain less until your mmr catches up
As somsone who's pretty decent at games, the first time I played ranked Black Ops 6 ranked I instantly knew it had MMR. I havent played much since Black Ops 3 😂 Apex has no MMR in ranked, Rocket League has no MMR in ranked, Counter Strike has no MMR in ranked. The only games that have MMR in ranked are, in my opinion, doing it to keep the playerbase feeling like they're actually good at the game and keep them addicted. Disgusting tactics.
Pretty much all competitive games work like this tbh, any game with a ranked mode these days has a hidden mmr. even brand new ones like rivals put you in stacked lobbies that weaker players in the same rank would never be in. Idk why thats become the standard but it is and has been for years now
Somehow, I’m still in silver. I just don’t play enough because it’s boring. But I went on a five game win streak, and then I played against four diamonds versus my team full of bronze. It made no sense.
This has to be true I've been playing solo on cod for awhile yesterday joined my friends lobby and dominated felt no sweats didn't have to try that hard but when I'm solo I swear I get squad stacks and just overall better players or wallers shooting thru buses and walls
Counter-Strike players use a third-party ranked system to play the game because the actual ranked system is ass. I think maybe CoD players should do the same. Ranks would then carry over from game to game if ya'll can use something independent from Activision's trash ranked system.
Not really an option anymore. GameBattles was shut down. We just gotta pray FaceIt makes some kind of service for CoD as they already have a partnership with Activision for Challengers.
I don’t think he was trying to say no reason at all he’s trying to say no reason from a ranked play playing perspective, hidden mmr is not competitive and hurts the competitive environment but helps Activision pockets by making them more money so helps them hurts us essentially just bad wording it seems
You really spend a lot of time and effort on playing this game, deranking yourself, 2 boxing for easy lobbies, complaining constantly, and yet you still dump all this time in, meticulously breaking down every detail. You mock Eugene's online but that just seems like projecting if we take all that into account. I don't think people understand how long it takes to max skins, prestige, rank up, de rank through countless games just to stay in easy lobbies, 2 box for nukes. Its pathetic. You will ignore this or make some snarky response, but I just want to remind anyone else reading think about how much time this guy puts into this video game, deranking, grinding. Grown man doing all this for a video game.
Games should only have SBMM for ranked modes. Putting it in casual is completely unnecessary apart from keeping bots from ragequitting the game@@viznshock4361
My buddy in MW2 was Crimson ranked. His very first match as a Bronze 1 player partied up with me at the time a Gold 2 player. In MW3, his very first match, the oposing team was Diamond 3's. How tf is that fair?
CoD would be great if they had very strict Ranked Matchmaking and minimal skillbased matchmaking. Pub Stomping did get out of hand with TH-camrs, but new lobbies every match sucks. You don't get those "silent rivalries" or that quiet respect anymore. I mute and no mic. I only know you based on play. After a few matches you get to understand how people play. Thats half of the fun and why I can't be bothered to buy new product.
Idk about everyone else, but I don’t play at all anymore. I watch these videos to stay in the loop, and it sucks to see my favorite fps growing up in such a bad state. Pure monetization machine now
It’s crazy I just started playing ranked. My friends who are terrible are already platinum. I’ve watched their games and my silver 1 rank up games are harder than anything they have played.
Bro I haven’t play ranked since advanced warfare, it was obvious they did this ever since they changed how sbmm works in mw 2019, cod isn’t the only game that does this in ranked now a days too
The more I learn about COD since 2022, the more convinced I am (personal opinion) that COD has become a playground for Activision to demonstrate their game engine to other game companies, especially those developing games like Rust or DayZ. Most of their rigs don't really seem to serve any meaningful purpose for their own game at all.
5:00 YES BRO in MW2 ranked our 4 stack watched as our k/d’s worsened and the enemies got better through the ranks. BO6 though (we skipped MW3 mp, just wz) we were playing sweaters in bronze… BRONZE
Birdman, you're WRONG. I'm not one to protect Activision but hidden MMR is good. I tested it out myself too. So yes, there's a hidden MMR behind skill rating which calculates where they think you should be. And you could have an amazing game and be top of the leaderboard and your friend could be bottom yet you may still get less SR than them. Yes. This is because 1 game isn't consistency. If you suddenly start to consistently play well your hidden mmr will also increase and so will your SR. I was getting +25 consistently then started playing much better and it went all the way up to +80 per game. Once my performances started to drop so did my SR. You may face better players at lower ranks yes, but that's why you get crazy SR per win to make up for it.
@@everyone1liesd459 I never complained, skull based damage isn’t real, I’ve never heard of skill based grenades, and SBMM and eomm are not even problems with the game it is a skill issue. So yeah I will gladly take it I’ve been taking it since 2019
As someone who considers myself a less than average skilled player, learning this makes me not even wanna try ranked play because even if i grind i cant even be proud of rank not knowing what it means Same with K/D in pubs
I always feel like im carrying, and my teammates are dog shit . Im definitely not a pro, but damn it feels like this every game. This feels like a 2nd job playing this shit.
I haven’t played much ranked. But from the 3-4 sessions I’ve played… only won like 14 out of 40+ games. No matter how good I play, my team always loses. I tried partying up with another guy who was good as well, even with callouts and us understanding how to play, we just couldn’t win. It’s like the game always gives me a crazy mismatch. I gave up on ranked.
I got to top 2% on that game in a couple weeks. That game is easy, but the higher lobbies are all filled with snipers, so I quit and went back to console. lol point is codm isn't hard to climb
@HUEYnoFreeman it's another example of how Activision runs these games like complete idiots. CODM turns away tons of players because it feels too easy but the game isn't easy at all it's just that new players will experience tons of forced bot lobbies which will give the impression that the game isn't challenging. Ofc Activision thinks giving people easy games increases engagement when the reality is it massively decreases it because people don't feel engaged against bots. You have to basically break into legendary, and more realistically top 5000 legendary to experience the game in its full potential and alot of people, especially people who come from less bot heavy console titles simply don't care to do that.
Its pretty obvious there is a strict MMR mayching system. This is why you can be plat and solo queue and face bronze opponents who end up destroying you and are just as good. Rank doesnt matter at all.
I've wanted to play ranked for years, but every year is seemingly just hackers and cheats. I'm not good by most metrics, but I want to have the opportunity to play legit competitive matches. Oh well.
Me and my brothers run into plats and diamonds all the time, and we can’t get past gold because we struggle earning enough sr to even make it to plat or diamond. It’s ridiculous. And the amount of sr we do get is so discouraging, we give up after only playing a few matches. And we never play bad players either. We haven’t played the game in like two weeks because it’s just so annoying, frustrating, and frankly it’s boring now, considering we played so much ranked in MW3.
Sounds like they copied League of Legends. 50% of the player base are people hard stuck in Bronze-Iron. There are people who are actually decent at the game and should be Gold- Emerald, but the LP you get and team inconsistency keeps people hard stuck. You could win 10 in a row and not rank up much only to lose 5-10 in a row and go back to where you started lol
Nobody brings this up but I’ve noticed the longer I don’t play the more my SR goes up when I get back on. If I’m playing 5 hours a day everyday I’m getting consistently 50-70 SR per win. If I take 5-7 days off I get 90-120 per win for the first day I’m back. I don’t know if it’s an engagement thing or them calculating how long it’s going to take for me to get to my peak rank but it’s super weird.
Dude. I been stuck in gold because a win gets me 24 sr, almost no matter what, and a loss is minus 19-27, makes zero sense and honestly made me quit playing ranked but this video made it make some sense now
I hate that they put a "get 50 kills with a burst fire gun" and only have 2 burst fire weapons in the entire game and they happen to be 2 of the worst guns in the game.
AEK-973 is one of the best guns in the game. There’s also burst mods for the XM4 and Kompact SMG you can unlock. Def a skill issue that you’re complaining about a challenge instead of this rigged matchmaking.
Your rank should be your skill level period. There should be 0 skill based match making in ranked. If you can’t progress, then keep playing until you can. Or have it to where bronze/silver players have more “no ssr losses” so they can have some more leeway.
It's supposed to be rigged against you, so good players don't play noobs. It's a GOOD thing. If I'm gonna start boxing, and go matches, I don't wanna go up against the heavy weight champion...
Pretty sure the white paper shows that it prioritises CIR, then R+SP and the last two being time to match and connection having the least priority :/ like if the first two fails then it resorts to the last two…
That is actually a really bad idea. That way bad players will always be getting wrecked because there will always be people starting and destroying them. I think a better solution would be something like rocket league where you have placement matches and based on your performance in like 10-15 matches will determine your starting rank. But you still play people of that rank (that part of your solution I agree with).
I am super confused with this. When ranked was released for mp, i’ve hit Crim 1 after 3 days, and first game i’ve got was spinning cheaters, and it was 2 of them. Teams i’m fighting are top250 and iri, and it’s rare if i get crim players. The thing is, i gave up since it’s all going around these two things: “Am I gonna get cheaters in my team or in enemy team”. Funny thing is i always get legit players in my team who give up after they see that someone is cheating on enemy team and leave the game or remain AFK until the end of the match.
Ah yes the wonderous art of hiding shit from your own players. Man it pisses me off, as indie devs we go above and beyond to design thinking how a player will understand information and how we can make everything non hidden for the best experience, meanwhile Activision hiding basic info that you'd expect from any ranked mode in any game. Don't even get me started on their dogshit dev to player communication.
When I watch a kill cam and the enemy can see me way before I ever see them, that's how I know the game is broken and will never be fixed. It's the same issue that's plagued this series since they increased movement speeds. Cameras are so broken the game is practically unplayable unless you spend 8+ hrs a day playing and refining your skills. CoD is so far from being a casual shooter anymore. Multiplayer is abysmal and zombies is boring as hell and warzone is just completely ruined by the movement. Every single game is just slide canceling sweats or dudes running 1 shot guns. I cant escape anybody whatsoever. As soon as I get shot once I get destroyed. Practically forced to ADS the entire match if you want any hope of getting a single kill. Fuck this game and fuck Activision. I'm done with CoD.
Yet yall KEEP playing it
Yeah it’s pissing me off too
These speds get the slop they deserve after buying this crap year after year
Let’s be real only social outcasts and people without girlfriends are the the ones playing ranked cod
@@ezaf5989just because you may suck at the game that doesn't mean other people must have no lives outside a videogame.
It really is just as simple as that. Just quit playing and play something else that you actually enjoy
Imagine Halo 3 releasing 15 page documents on how they manipulate matchmaking and their rank system. How did we go so far backwards.
Well said.
😂 facts!!!
Bungie wouldn't be stupid enough to release the documents....but definitely would have done the same bullshit Activision does with CoD in modern days. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the old Bungie Staff were at Activision now working on CoD.
I’m mainly a Halo fan and it’s crazy how Activision treats their players and handles this game. Yea Halo is dead but at least they arent robbing us.
lefties took over gaming and killed it
The only way this system goes away is if sales drop
Can I double like paying customers will never understand either.
Nope it's a Microsoft title now. They don't care about sales. They drive all their games into a ditch and act like things are going good because gamepass sales are up
I predict that sales will drop in the long term.
@@chadmichael_ no it wont. This is clockworks for CoD players. Remember when everyone was like "WERE NOT BUYING THE NEW CALL OF DUTY BECAUSE THEY SHUT DOWN THE MODS" then they went and bought the game anyways and said GUYS ITS ACTUALLY DECENT. It's the same shit every year. The CoD community is dumber than the Battlefield community, atleast the Battlefield fans know not to pre-order garbage and will boycott a game
LMAO no..... if sales dropped they absolutely would NOT go "oh its bc of the hidden MMR"
What pisses me off is tell me what my raw skill is then, how tf you gunna place me in the top 10% of games but not fucking tell me you are.
I don’t get why they feel the need to hide skill to begin with. I just want to know if I’m really as bad as I feel like I am these days or if I’m actually going against really good players. What’s so hard about that
I'm convinced if you're slightly above average they just toss you in the sweat lobbies. Oh you can go 30-4 for two games in a row? Here's a lobby with Pamaj (which I DID get into on his team and clipped). Sweatiest lobby ever just for being decent and not even a pub stomping God.
Yea we’re probably all gods at this game
This. They are so clearly match rigging and calling it skills-based matchmaking, but if it really was that they wouldn’t be show scared to show you what your skill ranking is…
@@theblizzard32I mean Pamaj is just a content creator lol not rlly a pro or anything bro just be sniping
Hidden MMR just defeats the purpose of ranked because they have already predetermined what rank you’re gonna be.
Each rank has good and bad players
Players barely hanging onto a rank
So if your hidden MMR is good you will exclusivly get people hanging for dear life on to the rank, as your teammates.
You could be Diamond 2 and get a diamond 3 teammate who is going from plat to Diamond every 4 games
This comment doesn't understand how mmr works
Mmr + elo is simply used to slow down rank up speeds so that people can't climb beyond their skill by having a small win streak
Both other comments explained it very well...but think of it this way. You and I both have a B Grade...but you are a B+ and I'm a B- are both still B Grade. You're almost an A, maybe you had one bad test. The only thing keeping me above above a C+ is the extra credit assignment. The Game sees both of us as a B and in the same Bracket.
Exactly it's shit
@@HT-dh5pm how tf do you think MMR works you bozo 😂
"Black ops 6 fkin sucks". *has dark matter*
Are you new here? I swear all the comments on this video are from people who never even watched smacking sweaties
@DisobeyZOG context? Idk what smacking sweats is
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I gotta see the statistics. Cause they keep claiming this mmr system is keeping people on and playing, but everyone I talk to say they can only play 3-5 games before they get off. Shit isn’t making sense
3-5 games a day, each day is still fulfilling their strategy. Imagine burning through it all within 6 days then take a whole month playing something else. With the pure frustration people suffer through to drop the game for that day - they will come back to continue the cycle again later since it encourages short bursts of Gametime. If a few players do it 8hrs + that's only a net benefit to Activision etc.
I don't even play ranked after I realised there's hidden mmr lol, literally no point. I also play very little pubs because sbmm is so tiring, I just get a gun gold then hop off, and that's like every 3 days lol, only got like 30 hours since the game launched. Don't know exactly who this system encourages to stay on and play more, has to be regards.
3-5 games is what they do cause of skill based damage you win like 4/5 cause your good rest of your games you will lag get killed by random stuff spawn away from your team…etc
I want to hit crim but only getting 20 sr a win even on purple streaks is mad annoying and makes me not want to play. I have been getting 20 sr since i got plat 3 and just to make it to diamond took a pretty long time
As a very casual player this shit legit means nothing to me I play for a few games every few nights for a bit of fun and that’s it. That beating said this is bullshit for anyone playing professionally/hardcore and even myself if I play well for 2-5 games I get into god lobby’s so whatever they’re trying to do isn’t working for either form of player
To elaborate I’m usually top of my leaderboards but I can tell that the people I’m playing against are terrible so it gives no satisfaction
There’s instances where my buddies and I will have a good game or two then we just end up getting off for the day to avoid the crazy ass SBMM lobbies after the game realizes we’re all having fun.
@@TheDarkYoshi64After my second time doing that this year, I realized that the game was just bad and uninstalled it 😂
Thank god for gamepass lol. Not a dollar spent
If it doesn't effect you then it doesn't matter. Martin Niemöller has a poem about this
Take a breath, bro
it aint rigged against me, i dont play that shit.
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Isn't the entire game's matchmaking rigged against us? Not just ranked? I mean the ranked experience isn't any different than pubs in my personal experience other than the ruleset. Which makes me wonder why there even is a ranked and unranked mode. Should just have CDL rules as a playlist instead of a whole mode if the pubs aren't actually going to be random fun encounters like old CoD.
Yeah bc bad ppl can grind to higher ranks way easier it don’t make sense
It's because it's manipulation. They don't want people to know what they're doing because then people wouldn't like it. They need to be sued.
There's always been sbmm lil bro
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Unc you complain too much for someone who buys the new cod every year
It’s crazy I would watch this dude post Eugene and feminist videos in 2016 with cod playing in the background, fast forward 2025 and he still is playing COD
@@omars1369 In his defense this is kind of his job.
His audience likes cod, he streams cod, and then uses the videos for commentary.
I can't really blame him, if he played something else he'd kill his income.
fr anybody complaining in general about a video game like wtf???? lol. They take it too serious
@@ArmandoA-g3j Nah this isn't valid. It costs money to play video games. Money is very real. And if you don't get what you deserve after paying money then you have every right to complain.
And I don't really play video games
@@ViolentMLGI agree, it’s his job, so can’t be mad at him.
Yeag i quit this shit its not about skill its just about making you feel bad and then good to get you addicted
This is why I stopped playing years ago, shit anti cheat, sbmm even in casual play is fuckin ridiculous, stale content, so sad to see that cod went down the fuckin drain
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The most frustrating part of ranked for me is when I’m in silver or gold, because almost never play ranked. I load into games filled with platinum and diamond players, and despite achieving a positive KD and contributing the most to the objective, I still lose SR when we lose the match. The only reason for the loss is often that their team is simply better overall than mine.
If good players could lose a game but still gain SR because their individual performance clearly demonstrates they’re above their current rank, it would make solo ranked play much more enjoyable and rewarding.
Siege made the same changes a few years ago with "Ranked 2.0" and it ruined the game 😂
The cherry on top is that even if you become a turbo god, aim train until the sun sets, that just means you find more cheaters. L game and L to the people who continue to deny the rigged matchmaking, in pubs or ranked
I KNEW IT.
-Patrick
They're manipulating every aspect of your games. Not just in ranked. That's what the packetburst, bad hitregistration and horrible spawns are all about.
Something I just don't understand about SBMM and all the recent cods, why include the nuke in game if no one can get it without cheesing matchmaking? That was the allure to mw2 back in the day. With current matchmaking there's really no point anymore.
Having a Hidden MMR and ranked completely defeats the purpose of it and having SBMM in quick play defeats the purpose of that the gameplay itself is not bad at all, but some of the things that are getting implemented to this game and how they’re getting implemented is just barbaric. I personally like placement matches as well because when your rank resets at a new season and everybody’s in bronze, someone like me can’t even play ranked for the first week or so because all the pros are in that level two and I know I cannot compete with that so I have to wait until they get out of that rank so then I can start. And with placement matches why not just skip over some of those ranks that you know you can.
Real and true
I really hope my girlfriend hasnt done the dumbest thing and bought me this game in the morning. Ive told her not too but shes done it before at Christmas.
js play zombies. i don’t even touch mp but ive put a ton of hours into zombies. its fun this year.
@@jomammajoe8570 I actually did that last COD when she bought it for me. It was the first time I really got into zombies.
Just play zombies, it’s the only thing that’s keeping this game alive at the moment lmao multiplayer is full of hackers/unemployed people
@@ezaf5989 lmao imagine breaking up w your gf because she bought you call of duty when u said not to
@@ezaf5989nah they jus rlly dont understand nor do they truly look into the lore behind games and their respective studios, shawty jus a girl bro😭💀
initially I was kinda irritated that this was even something people talked about. Then I remembered that when I enjoyed (and still played) COD, it was completely random. Thinking back on MW2, you would see an insane disparity between the best and worst players on the same team.
Then they introduced SBMM which totally eliminated casual games, so people would tank their average over 5-10 matches to get another 2 or 3 matches of enjoyable low effort play. To counter that further, they just added another number but this time it can't be changed. All so they can sell more copies to people who genuinely suck at the game and buy the in game content.
If the OG MW2 was monetized I would absolutely pay money for in game content, because I enjoyed the game and wanted to play it ALL the time. I haven't bought COD since 2019 and I don't plan to again, for this reason exactly.
They should introduce a "casual" game mode with absolutely no match making whatsoever, I'd be interested to see how popular it is. They could even get metrics on whether higher or low skill people are playing it more frequently.
And they would never do it cause of money. They don’t care about a fair experience they just want to milk as much money as they possibly can with the least amount of effort
Remove MMR, Standardize SR with set bonuses for hitting specific metrics (Like K/D and objective score), Bring back the Create a Ranked team system from BOII League Play (Where 4 Stacks create a team with a name, are ranked MOSTLY AS a team and Primarily only play other 4 Stacks (unless a suitable team cannot be found, instead look for a slightly higher ranked 3 stack with higher skill solo player) Increase the number of total ranks to grind through.
New Ranked ladder:
Unranked I - V Tin I - V, Copper I- V, Iron I - V, Steel I - V, Bronze I - III, Silver I - III, - Gold I - III, Platinum I - III, Onyx I - III, Emerald I - III, Diamond I - III, Crimson I - III, Iridescent , Master (top 500), Grandmaster (top 100)
EVERY SEASON
Every rank above unranked V grants a calling card, Bronze and above gets character skins for their rank as soon as they reach it, Gold III and Above get Weapon Camo's based on their ranks, Diamond and above get the option to display their rank in all of multiplayer at end of their username (Shows in lobby and kill feed), Iridescent and above get weapon blueprints for EVERY Weapon allowed in Ranked play.
This would make ranked more rewarding to play, drawing in more players hoping to earn these exclusive rewards. With a higher general player pool it would drown out number of cheaters making such run ins rare. And providing a buffer to catch them BEFORE they can interfere in the highest ranks. It would also Add more prestige to all the Current ranks, Gold SHOULD be a respectable rank but under current systems (ignoring MMR matchmaking) anything below Diamond = Bot, which is a joke. By having more ranks to grind through without hidden MMR, it will create a clearer distinction between rank skill levels finally adding meaning to being a Platinum player, ect. Bronze players SHOULD be decent (average cod Player) Gold Should be pretty damn good, and Onyx and above are Beasts -> Monsters -> GODS
It's not that they don't understand the solution, they intentionally created this system because the goal isn't a fair competitive game, it's to manipulate your emotions so you get addicted.
@@bogusshmogus1670 Oh I know, but if their goal is more engagement this would get that. If people feel cheated they leave, and that's the exact opposite of what they want. This suggestion would give more reason to keep playing (Longer grind + More rewards) Activision are just braindead.
@Lunacy_Phoenix yeah a lot of it is extreme theory that doesn't actually reflect in practice. Greed is probably a big factor here because they would definitely make tons of money if not more just by making a good fair game.
Ranked system is so stupid. I’m hard stuck at diamond 3 gaining around 20-25 sr for a win and losing around 35-40 for losses. Regardless of how I play. Basically never go negative. Even had a game where I went 39-12 where we won 250-63 and still only got 21 sr. Absolutely ridiculous
YET EVERYONE KEEPS PLAYING IT! Stand up for what you believe in or it’ll keep happening. I’m a hacker and I don’t even touch video games!
😳😐
The gaming community, unfortunately, are a glutton for punishment.
💀 your buddies are doing a party in that game right now
Of course you don't touch them, with hacks they basically play themselves.
People are surprised about a hidden mmr? This is literally standard for ranked play in ALL games with a ranked system
That what I'm saying 😂
I thought ppl knew this cuss if you play r6 this ain’t new
@@1-Werdexcept there you earn mmr at a stable rare more or less, i was getting 50-100 sr till plat 3 and now in plat 3 i was getting 20 sr cause its the rank the game thinks i should be, i am now diamond but it took soooo many games and i will probably stop here cause aint no way i make it to crim only getting 20 and loosing even more
@@rodrigocruz8548 yes that's how mmr works
If your sr is lower than your mmr you gain more until you catch up
If it's higher you gain less until your mmr catches up
What's the point of a ranked system if only your hidden mmr matters?
A competitive game mode has hidden mmr, news to absolutely no one.
Wait, this is industry standard in like most competitive games. Why are people surprised by this?
this is exactly how it is with siege nowadays. i had to quit because it was so demoralising losing my copper games to a 5 stack of champs
As somsone who's pretty decent at games, the first time I played ranked Black Ops 6 ranked I instantly knew it had MMR. I havent played much since Black Ops 3 😂
Apex has no MMR in ranked, Rocket League has no MMR in ranked, Counter Strike has no MMR in ranked. The only games that have MMR in ranked are, in my opinion, doing it to keep the playerbase feeling like they're actually good at the game and keep them addicted. Disgusting tactics.
“I knew it im suppose be top 250” 😂. Legit gonna be half comments on how they are stuck
Was called mentally disabled on reddit for saying this and now Activision admits it. Funny af
"I deranked to bronze like 50 times in MW2" youre why its in place.
I knew it…
250-39 on domination and I’m matched with new cod players, and after a few blowout losses…. I gave up on rank and was excited for it..l
Pretty much all competitive games work like this tbh, any game with a ranked mode these days has a hidden mmr. even brand new ones like rivals put you in stacked lobbies that weaker players in the same rank would never be in. Idk why thats become the standard but it is and has been for years now
Yeah i remember driftor and xclusive ace calling people conspiracist until they did their testing
Both of them Cod kukks
@Based-Cat88 lmao
Somehow, I’m still in silver. I just don’t play enough because it’s boring.
But I went on a five game win streak, and then I played against four diamonds versus my team full of bronze. It made no sense.
i had a 12 win streak the other day, feel like everything is taken out of proportion
This has to be true I've been playing solo on cod for awhile yesterday joined my friends lobby and dominated felt no sweats didn't have to try that hard but when I'm solo I swear I get squad stacks and just overall better players or wallers shooting thru buses and walls
This is how every other competitive game works.
League of Legends.
Valorant.
CS2.
Overwatch.
The list could go on and on
14:34 bro I actually remember that back in the day idiots actually thought SBMM was a myth 😂
Yo Birdman you gatta talk about the Shameik Moore situation he might be an undercover Eugene
Counter-Strike players use a third-party ranked system to play the game because the actual ranked system is ass. I think maybe CoD players should do the same. Ranks would then carry over from game to game if ya'll can use something independent from Activision's trash ranked system.
Not really an option anymore. GameBattles was shut down. We just gotta pray FaceIt makes some kind of service for CoD as they already have a partnership with Activision for Challengers.
CS players use a third party system more for the anti-cheat rather then the ranking system.
7:00 I don’t get this logic? How is keeping people playing the game longer not a valid reason to have hidden mmr?
I don’t think he was trying to say no reason at all he’s trying to say no reason from a ranked play playing perspective, hidden mmr is not competitive and hurts the competitive environment but helps Activision pockets by making them more money so helps them hurts us essentially just bad wording it seems
On top of this shit show they force you to play crossplay against PC hackers
You really spend a lot of time and effort on playing this game, deranking yourself, 2 boxing for easy lobbies, complaining constantly, and yet you still dump all this time in, meticulously breaking down every detail. You mock Eugene's online but that just seems like projecting if we take all that into account. I don't think people understand how long it takes to max skins, prestige, rank up, de rank through countless games just to stay in easy lobbies, 2 box for nukes. Its pathetic. You will ignore this or make some snarky response, but I just want to remind anyone else reading think about how much time this guy puts into this video game, deranking, grinding. Grown man doing all this for a video game.
COD should just drop SBMM, EOMM, and hidden rank. They are manipulating everybody for money.
Games should only have SBMM for ranked modes. Putting it in casual is completely unnecessary apart from keeping bots from ragequitting the game@@viznshock4361
I mean TH-cam is his job. Though he can definitely just drop COD and people would still watch.
@@viznshock4361 sbmm should only be in ranked, NOT casual
Lemme catch my son trying to shame birdman on Christmas Eve.
Destiny implemented this same system two years ago in Ranked PvP and I just stopped playing PvP all together because of it.
no wonder im getting 12 sr in plat after winning 7 games in a row lmao, nerfing CONSOLE players is insane man
Game does not like you bro
I went from 150+ in silver 3 to getting 81 for a 47 and 22 performance in gold 1. Am I even capable of hitting plat with those SR numbers?
My buddy in MW2 was Crimson ranked. His very first match as a Bronze 1 player partied up with me at the time a Gold 2 player. In MW3, his very first match, the oposing team was Diamond 3's. How tf is that fair?
What baffles me is playing ranked for “fun” rather than competing in tournaments for money, whether they be large or small tournaments.
CoD would be great if they had very strict Ranked Matchmaking and minimal skillbased matchmaking. Pub Stomping did get out of hand with TH-camrs, but new lobbies every match sucks. You don't get those "silent rivalries" or that quiet respect anymore. I mute and no mic. I only know you based on play. After a few matches you get to understand how people play. Thats half of the fun and why I can't be bothered to buy new product.
It was a thing in MWII as well, at least for SR. I got hard stuck Gold because it dropped SR on me to minuscule gains.
Idk about everyone else, but I don’t play at all anymore. I watch these videos to stay in the loop, and it sucks to see my favorite fps growing up in such a bad state. Pure monetization machine now
It’s crazy I just started playing ranked. My friends who are terrible are already platinum. I’ve watched their games and my silver 1 rank up games are harder than anything they have played.
Bro I haven’t play ranked since advanced warfare, it was obvious they did this ever since they changed how sbmm works in mw 2019, cod isn’t the only game that does this in ranked now a days too
True, every fps game has hidden mmr. Even dead by daylight has it and that’s not even an fps game.
I went to Master rank twice in AW, the good days my friend
The more I learn about COD since 2022, the more convinced I am (personal opinion) that COD has become a playground for Activision to demonstrate their game engine to other game companies, especially those developing games like Rust or DayZ. Most of their rigs don't really seem to serve any meaningful purpose for their own game at all.
Their game engine is older than the history of president Obama. They've been using a modified Quake engine for years.
Imagine giving a shit about this in a game full of hackers, to the point that it's unplayable 🤣
What are the hackers doing? Is it only on PC?
After 16years of cod, im done .
Yh almost every one in my friends list quit cod.
This manipulation got me im done
5:00 YES BRO in MW2 ranked our 4 stack watched as our k/d’s worsened and the enemies got better through the ranks. BO6 though (we skipped MW3 mp, just wz) we were playing sweaters in bronze… BRONZE
theres a hidden mmr in every ranked game ever this isnt new
I remember in your road to iri on your 2nd channel, how you predicted the intended match outcome before it even started.
Birdman, you're WRONG.
I'm not one to protect Activision but hidden MMR is good. I tested it out myself too. So yes, there's a hidden MMR behind skill rating which calculates where they think you should be. And you could have an amazing game and be top of the leaderboard and your friend could be bottom yet you may still get less SR than them. Yes. This is because 1 game isn't consistency. If you suddenly start to consistently play well your hidden mmr will also increase and so will your SR. I was getting +25 consistently then started playing much better and it went all the way up to +80 per game. Once my performances started to drop so did my SR. You may face better players at lower ranks yes, but that's why you get crazy SR per win to make up for it.
They went into full detail on this back in 2022 for ranked in mw2.
“That’s why I play zombies”🥴🤡 DELETE THE GAME!!!
lol no
@@adriansgaminguniverse4951Then stop complaining and take it
sbmm eomm skill based grenades, skill based damage TAKE IT ALL
@@everyone1liesd459 I never complained, skull based damage isn’t real, I’ve never heard of skill based grenades, and SBMM and eomm are not even problems with the game it is a skill issue. So yeah I will gladly take it I’ve been taking it since 2019
@@adriansgaminguniverse4951Cope
As someone who considers myself a less than average skilled player, learning this makes me not even wanna try ranked play because even if i grind i cant even be proud of rank not knowing what it means
Same with K/D in pubs
Do you have the link so I can read it?
I always feel like im carrying, and my teammates are dog shit . Im definitely not a pro, but damn it feels like this every game. This feels like a 2nd job playing this shit.
When the breadcrumbs spread, the pigeons flock. Give it time to see the weird ass "COD is saved" videos again. No identity or backbone in this game.
I do not care a single bit about this trash ahh game but I'm just here for birdy to talk
I haven’t played much ranked. But from the 3-4 sessions I’ve played… only won like 14 out of 40+ games. No matter how good I play, my team always loses. I tried partying up with another guy who was good as well, even with callouts and us understanding how to play, we just couldn’t win. It’s like the game always gives me a crazy mismatch. I gave up on ranked.
Damn no one gonna talk about how he got that 3 piece with a second left before they got the last tick, that was crazy
CoD Mobile players have known Activision does this for years, partially because they dont try and hide it as much on the mobile game.
I got to top 2% on that game in a couple weeks. That game is easy, but the higher lobbies are all filled with snipers, so I quit and went back to console. lol point is codm isn't hard to climb
@HUEYnoFreeman it's another example of how Activision runs these games like complete idiots. CODM turns away tons of players because it feels too easy but the game isn't easy at all it's just that new players will experience tons of forced bot lobbies which will give the impression that the game isn't challenging. Ofc Activision thinks giving people easy games increases engagement when the reality is it massively decreases it because people don't feel engaged against bots. You have to basically break into legendary, and more realistically top 5000 legendary to experience the game in its full potential and alot of people, especially people who come from less bot heavy console titles simply don't care to do that.
Everyone at Activision involved in this should get CEO’d
They can also shadowban you from entering higher ranks.
If you're toxic for example
Its pretty obvious there is a strict MMR mayching system. This is why you can be plat and solo queue and face bronze opponents who end up destroying you and are just as good. Rank doesnt matter at all.
I've wanted to play ranked for years, but every year is seemingly just hackers and cheats. I'm not good by most metrics, but I want to have the opportunity to play legit competitive matches. Oh well.
Me and my brothers run into plats and diamonds all the time, and we can’t get past gold because we struggle earning enough sr to even make it to plat or diamond. It’s ridiculous. And the amount of sr we do get is so discouraging, we give up after only playing a few matches. And we never play bad players either. We haven’t played the game in like two weeks because it’s just so annoying, frustrating, and frankly it’s boring now, considering we played so much ranked in MW3.
Sounds like they copied League of Legends. 50% of the player base are people hard stuck in Bronze-Iron. There are people who are actually decent at the game and should be Gold- Emerald, but the LP you get and team inconsistency keeps people hard stuck. You could win 10 in a row and not rank up much only to lose 5-10 in a row and go back to where you started lol
Also expains why it took them ages to implement ranked Play. They have to fine tune all there background systems.
Nobody brings this up but I’ve noticed the longer I don’t play the more my SR goes up when I get back on. If I’m playing 5 hours a day everyday I’m getting consistently 50-70 SR per win. If I take 5-7 days off I get 90-120 per win for the first day I’m back. I don’t know if it’s an engagement thing or them calculating how long it’s going to take for me to get to my peak rank but it’s super weird.
Dude. I been stuck in gold because a win gets me 24 sr, almost no matter what, and a loss is minus 19-27, makes zero sense and honestly made me quit playing ranked but this video made it make some sense now
The amount of manipulation is crazy, I swear the game has just become some giant social experiment at this point.
Ever heard of Halo Infinite or Fortnite, they also have an "optimized" matchmaking system
I hate that they put a "get 50 kills with a burst fire gun" and only have 2 burst fire weapons in the entire game and they happen to be 2 of the worst guns in the game.
AEK-973 is one of the best guns in the game. There’s also burst mods for the XM4 and Kompact SMG you can unlock. Def a skill issue that you’re complaining about a challenge instead of this rigged matchmaking.
Birdman still complaining but, still playing the game.
Your rank should be your skill level period. There should be 0 skill based match making in ranked. If you can’t progress, then keep playing until you can. Or have it to where bronze/silver players have more “no ssr losses” so they can have some more leeway.
It's supposed to be rigged against you, so good players don't play noobs. It's a GOOD thing.
If I'm gonna start boxing, and go matches, I don't wanna go up against the heavy weight champion...
Pretty sure the white paper shows that it prioritises CIR, then R+SP and the last two being time to match and connection having the least priority :/ like if the first two fails then it resorts to the last two…
Halo 2 literally created the blueprint on how sbmm should be handled ranked strict sbmm public lobbies based off wifi connection FUCKING SIMPLE
In mw2 i was gold and playing with diamonds so it definitely was in that game too.
Now everyone knows.
Nice to know that the people in the back are also up to speed now.
"Yeah im playing ranked cus i wanna get better" ranked does not help you
That is actually a really bad idea. That way bad players will always be getting wrecked because there will always be people starting and destroying them. I think a better solution would be something like rocket league where you have placement matches and based on your performance in like 10-15 matches will determine your starting rank. But you still play people of that rank (that part of your solution I agree with).
I am super confused with this.
When ranked was released for mp, i’ve hit Crim 1 after 3 days, and first game i’ve got was spinning cheaters, and it was 2 of them. Teams i’m fighting are top250 and iri, and it’s rare if i get crim players. The thing is, i gave up since it’s all going around these two things: “Am I gonna get cheaters in my team or in enemy team”. Funny thing is i always get legit players in my team who give up after they see that someone is cheating on enemy team and leave the game or remain AFK until the end of the match.
I think overwatch one did ranked right, did the 10 ranked matches to get your rank then the amount you gain and lose is always the same
They didn’t need to tell me, I felt that shit and right away, clicked the uninstall button
Ah yes the wonderous art of hiding shit from your own players. Man it pisses me off, as indie devs we go above and beyond to design thinking how a player will understand information and how we can make everything non hidden for the best experience, meanwhile Activision hiding basic info that you'd expect from any ranked mode in any game. Don't even get me started on their dogshit dev to player communication.
When I watch a kill cam and the enemy can see me way before I ever see them, that's how I know the game is broken and will never be fixed. It's the same issue that's plagued this series since they increased movement speeds. Cameras are so broken the game is practically unplayable unless you spend 8+ hrs a day playing and refining your skills. CoD is so far from being a casual shooter anymore. Multiplayer is abysmal and zombies is boring as hell and warzone is just completely ruined by the movement. Every single game is just slide canceling sweats or dudes running 1 shot guns. I cant escape anybody whatsoever. As soon as I get shot once I get destroyed. Practically forced to ADS the entire match if you want any hope of getting a single kill. Fuck this game and fuck Activision. I'm done with CoD.