Rulani Mokwena & Sundowns split?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.ค. 2024
- Has Coach Rulani Mokwena left Sundowns?
Robert Marawa finds out.
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Now i can understand why Rulani used to say his work is not appreciated
It true wht komphela said victory has many father's bt loss is an orphane
South African Football is not ready for coaches like Pitso and Rulani! Chiefs is starting to catch on.
His work rate and commitment to the game is next level. You have to experience this type of coaching overseas to understand.
You can’t explain this to South African fans or some club owners.
True am disappointed with the behavior of management. It's not like sundowns were big performers on the continent not until recently. It took pep seven seasons to win the champions league
@@lazarousmuzandu2568 exactly and to get a team to be feared all over Africa while being coached by a South African coach is just insane. Sundowns was just another PSL big team before Pitso took over and he transformed it and Rulani took over and kept the consistency… Building something is much more easier than keeping it functional and working while also improving it. Again to get that from a South African coach come on guys let’s give credit where it’s due!
If this is true I will never forget sundowns, it was Pitso now is Rulani. Why do sundowns keep on hurting my heart so much ❤
You forgot pitso left he was not fired
"You do not know what you got until it is gone" 😢 Coach, keep your head up high. Coach Pitso saw something in you, and you proved him right❤
Coach of season fired that's down of Downs mark my words
They literally won 5 league titles in a row without him 😂 they don't need him.
One day the truth will come out about the Sundowns hierarchy and how toxic they can be when they don’t like you🤞🏾
No man, winning 1 trophy from an available 4 whilst monopolizing all the top talent in the country and spending the most is an underachievement. They have every right to judge him.
We saw this coming. You can't spend all that money abd only win the league. Before him they had won it 5 times in a row so that's a given for them.
Only in South Africa when a coach got fired u label dat as hate
To whom much is given much is expected and that’s the most unfortunate part. I personally think his biggest mistake was prematurely taking the head coaching gong and Sundowns is a complex institution with highly political hierarchy. One of the finest coaches in African football currently but few things played a huge role in his sacking. His public spats with TS Galaxy gaffer and his overall conduct in managing media. In some instances being too honest for the club’s liking and this needs high levels of EQ (Emotional Quotient).
@MzokhonaHlophe-dk9gt and manqoba continues silently enjoying his salary without any drama
You guys don’t appreciate Rhulani!!!
I personally attribute Bafana Bafana's recent outstanding performance to the well organized Sundowns conditions under Rulani's supervision. Sundowns have set a higher standard and expectations are so much, though Rulani have performed well among many coaches in the PSL is sub-standard to the predetermined objectives and goals they had for Sundowns. I don't see him living the team though, they better demote him and opt for Manqoba for the next 3 years. After all is the heat that brings the best in Diamond or other precious metals, challenges may lead to better destinations 'growth'. Big up Rulani ❤🙏.
As a Pirates fan, I will miss him, he had strong attachment to the game and invest employs his full energy and emotions 💯🙏.
Downs is willing to lose their identity, if they go for international coach. I hope Pep Guardiola recognises this young lad
No shot on target in a CAFCL semi final at home..for me that's when I realised he's not the truth!!!
Tactically he was weak he failed many times to break the low block so clever coach realized that weakness. In the coming season he was going to fail.
Sundowns management got it wrong to fire the Coach
Yes they do not think now we back to square one like we were before Pitso
True
@@user-io2tn8nl2w Rhulani found the foundation there he is not the one who built this team please
Sundowns should have won the champions league by now. If he was at Al Ahly with the same stats and performance they also would have sacked him
I'm saddened by this decision of Mamelodi sundowns they will regret it for sure
It's not hate, part of his mandate was to win league, 2 domestic cups and champions league. Upon review, he only won league
In my opinion, I think the issue is about who is coming in and who is going out from the players' side. PSG have all the resources but still are struggling to win it.
The sad thing is Rulani will miss Club World Cup
Rulani's exit was sparked by not winnning the caf⭐, ts galaxy fude and bring notorious T.Lorch to sundowns.
Straight out
Winning Caf is not pap en vleis how did they win it before?
Rhulani is a nice. But honestly to expect win the 2nd star…is naive. He needs many seasons. We need a top class coach. If Rhulani is good he will win league next season irrespective where he goes
Its not a government institution, Rhulani underperformed big time and his behavior was not good. Brought team in disrepute.
Mnximm tell me u àre joking where?
Only time will tell if this was the right decision by the club.
from my view, seems like the club is willing to sacrifice its identity for glory.
If you go for a European coach, i am not sure if he will get the same results or over.
Those of us who have been around for a while, have seen European coaches fail at Downs over the years with the same resources.
All the best to the team.
my heart is sore. Cry my beloved team.
Coach Rhulani didn't meet expectations for Sundowns but he was successful. Sundowns is now on a different level as a club and Rhulani contributed a lot. They now need a very good international coach maybe one that has coached in the highest leagues and you will see Sundowns winning the champions league
I wish Pirates had standards like Sundowns, we need to be more like them.
Rulani was a very good coach. Personally, I can give him another season. Don't fix if it's not broken my brother
Sundowns making a mistake Rhulani is developing coach pure breed of pitso and he will become great also i think his leavinf because sundowns is letting go of key players
There was a time when guardiola had to leave Barcelona. He was too young by then to manage big names. Barcelona never recovered. Look at Pep now
Wrong comparison there's so much happening at Barcelona than Sundowns the main reason being the club debt an inability to honour its obligations
Yea we looking at Pep failing to win Champions League after breaking the bank season after season
Barcelona won champions league after Pep left. They win the league more often than not.
@@CalvinPietersenBaase-hp5tewhere are they now
Rhulani Mokwena is the best Couch but the problem is that he's talkative.
They won 5 league titles in a row before he took over, so winning the league is the bare minimum there at chloorkop. With that perspective, and all the spending and monopolizing of top talent he massively underachieved.
Great coach, he come back stronger. Hopefully he bags another high spending club cause hit track record of nurturing talent is an unknown entity at the moment.
I support this young coach he's good he deserve another chance.
Mr Robert i am sundowns support i think mr mokoena did a best last season. bout to have your favorite players it not good i can say good things come and as sundowns wi still strong kabuyelo masandawana
Lossing to orlando pirates twice in a final Motsepe couldn't take it.
There are two teams with a star ⭐ in PSL , and Sundowns want the 2nd one soo bad , to distinguish themselves due to their record being up there (of winning the league)
Rob ask those questions my king ...❤❤
Love Robert Marawa he is a sport legend god bless
Pitso must come win us CAF and Bronze at the Club World Cup. Simple as that, pride aside, Pitso and Manqoba have done and will do it given the call.
Sundowns only hired Rhulani after Pitso rehired him, he was never really forgiven for leaving the first time around
Sporting director reports directly to the Chairman, he dismantled the trio coaches for a reason. It was working but remember the set targets should be met. Cockiness doesn’t help. He is a good coach he needs to learn few things
I would love see him on the other team that is less resources.
Rhulani lacks experience, he still needs to learn
I understand most dat is blaming Sundowns are South Africans because they are used to settle for less even in Spain big spenders like Sundowns if u don't meet up on ur target u gone doesn't matter how big u are
People have the right to criticize the coach but for the people to act like he failed dismally when it took Pitso 8 years to win champions league and even pitso said this guy will surpass him because it's simple the man is good and his human, young and needs guidelines is that the reason to overlook his football brains?
But Pitso took the team from Position 13th to B2B2B League titles and a Champions League whereas Coach Rhulani took us from winning 2 Domestic Cups a season to Just 1 which is the league which we had won 5times in a row before him now do you call that improvement ? DeAttach "Young , African/Black" and judge a person on results and not potential
@@BandileMabasosober assessment. People are getting emotional over nothing. The man just main the status qou. They didn't progress and they didn't regress, just constant.
He also inherited a squad of champions.
Yes I tend to agree"hey lorch signing Mbul en that,Serino outing made him unpopular
RM managed to break lots of PSL records in short space of time he was the gead coach Downs.
Downs supporters behave like they started supporting the club yesterday.
How many times dod the club big coaches and big stars but achived nothing?
Please go and check the squad they had between 2009 & 2013 players and coaches they had there. Also check what they achieved.
Come in guys....
You said it all, we just used to hating our own
It's sad how we never acknowledge and celebrate our own. We won playing good football under Rhulani this is grazy, whether he signed lorch or Allende it maters not he was on his 12 months of his 48 months contract. To those said he has failed less talk about the better
He should be proud of himself on what he achieved at his age…..regardless
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Wow, i thought he left by his own accord. Never thought he got sacked.
We can't win everything guys, I am with you Robert,
He have done his part. He better go to North Africa, perhaps he can achieve something. I fear for his career or much success in south Africa unless he Joins Stellies or Cape town City if not one of the Soweto based teams. All these concerns remains Pirates effect.
From all angles, from where I stand - Mokoena did a sterling job. Yes, I get the reason for his departure - given, as commented here...the level , quality and value of the personnel the club supplied him with. Yet I still feel that it's a tad unrealistic to expect him to win every game...but I also think that it speaks to losing the ones SPECIFIED as MUST-WINS by his employer. If indeed true - then Sundowns management may just be at a level most or all our clubs could and SHOULD aspire to. One of much difference from the likes of Chiefs and other teams long considered the 'bigger' outfits of our league. I know I will rub a LOT of Chiefs fans the wrong way (and even though I'm one of them, there's no way to prove that here...so I will count on people to have a healthy debate - one devoid of zealotry and other plain-out fan behaviour). All things said - I DO feel that Sundowns stood a better chance to rule our domestic league...for some more time. Not discounting Pirates' amazing 'resurgence' of late...and they might even stand a fair chance at the league now.
Documentaries are our thing in Pirates 😂😅❤❤
2nd Rivero effect 🤣🤣🤣
Zyakhala at Downs, Rhulani thought he was a good couch in Mzansi over some of PSL couches. He was winning games or League because of money power by Motsepe family with quality players. Any couch can do well at Downs, but who ever takes over is in big trouble, the Buccaneers are building Burlin Walls of defenders, midfielders and strongest forwards that will compete in Africa. Up the BUCS.
😂 Pirates are inconsistent and riddled with too many weaknesses to pose a threat over a prolonged period. They are the knockout kings as they playing style is suited for that.
The callers are speaking nonsense, their arguments make no sense
Sundowns robbed Younger SC yet they still failed to advance further than the next opponents
He is a young coach,who has the ability to lead and get thd best out of the team,but he is rude and arrogant and has no respect for others,I believe this will help him grow,let's be honest if you Coach a team of sundowns stature and quality you must be the best,we will now get ti know his capabilities
Well if we were to judge coach Rulani's work let's be factual.... Rulani took over midday season before the one that just ended which he still had Manqoba and Khompela as assistants , then his first leg of the Sea to be factual he used the core team that was built by him alongside Manqoba and Khompela throughout the rest of the first part of the season then second part of the season he changed to his own team dropping Modiba, Maema , Sirino ,Zwane and Morena for Nku, Lorch etc so the failure came second part of the season
We can only be able to pass a verdict if we have a glance at Rhulani's KPIs and expectations for the season. TO Karabo's point, may be the CAF league loss and the loss of local cups were part of..
We can't speak about AFL! Secondly Sundowns has neen winning the league and a few cups every season..and have also done a CAF Champions league Semi Final..so Rhulani realy brought no change!
Sundowns want nedbank n caf we where beaten.Thats means fail mandate.Rulani is good but Sundowns is big.
Big my foot. Let's appreciate what is he has done
Wish you well where ever you go,let's hope sundowns didn't made a mistake here, we don't want chiefs and pirates laugh at us
People dnt apprecaite Rulani
Cutting off the head destabilises the body. Classic tale of old especially for establishments that have attained success for long periods. It's funny that Sundowns management has made such a rookie error with handling this issue. We are witnessing the end of era. With Pitso, there was a succession plan. I’m afraid they don’t have one here and have shot themselves in the foot. RIP Shoe Shine Piano - it was respected all over Africa. I so badly wanted to see it at CWC. Back to erratic, nonsense football now. Sigh. Signing off, Khosi by heart.
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It's a live recorded video
Rulani will join Pitso and become his assistant coach
People like that talk nonsense, a simple question did Mamelodi Sundowns issued a statement of Coach Rhulani patting way with the team 🤔
Did they issue a statement about Bongani Zungu's departure?
The records broke only show the Sundowns dominance in the league, that’s all. The mandate is silverware, and with that team Sundowns should be taking the title plus most domestic cups.
Rhulani come to Orlando pirates 😂😂😂😂 this guy is not arrogant but too many stories about him he needs to address his feelings 😅😅😅we all humans
He failed dismally at Pirates after staging a coup with the then coach. That bridge is burnt mfo.
Watch the fans turn again Fleming and his new coach. They are not gonna be tolerant like they were with Rulani. It’s gonna be frosty.
Competition is about meeting the targets and objectives of the cluds. European coaches are living at that space. Real madrid, Barca, PSG, Ahly, Wydad, Esperance and the rest of Africa. Ask Pitso @ Ahly. You spend more you need to deliver more. Locally he failed twice to Bucs. He has no excuse to explain his failure. Remember his last weeks for buid ups to meet esperance? He let Plays Tebza against Swallows and get injured, 2nd leg he omits Zwane, Modiba and Peter by putting them on the bench. That was all failure.
I agree with the caller Dumisani, we praise Pep Guardiola as best coach even though he only won EPL and lost all domestic cups and Champions league. Rulani won 2 titles atleast AFL and PSL but we say he failed. Black people in SA are unable to appreciate a fellow black person when succeeding.
English premiership there 6 or more clubs that can match or better the resources of Man City. Here in South Africa, Sundowns has proved to be way financially off than its closest competitors which is Chiefs and Pirates who have been struggling to win the league for a decade now. The mandate for him was simple, win the league and Champions League. I believe Sundowns should have had 3 stars by now.
Unnecessarily distabiling the team for nothing 🚮.
Abahambe abahambe 🤣🤣
Black people are more happy ngendaba karhulan😢wow
Sad! Because it's something that happens everytime when it looks like another black person is going down. I honestly think there's something to learn from Rhulani especially for a young black child.
This has nothing to do with color though bafethu
This has nothing to do with color though bafethu
Sad indeed
hai awukahle that has nothing to with skin color awu kahle
he will be bouncing back
Let's be honest he failed winning a league is not enough spacial with that depth of a squad or team
Well I believe The Sundowns President (Mr T. Motsepe) failed Sundowns because everyone has delegations and duties to perform, how do you allow head coach to bypass sporting director just because he have a relationship with the coach..
No firstly we should've asked the real mandate coz whn yu fail to reach it it'll be difficult to keep you
We know other fan base are happy to see a black young man fail especially Rulani bitten them 6 clean and others 4 clean points
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The guests says Rhulani has improved certain players. Which players are those? 😂
Grant Kekana.
@@CalvinPietersenBaase-hp5te Kekana? Come on wasn't he already good even under Mosimane 🤣
How can a couch fost a player tò play even when a player is injured,thats bullshit.
Pitso is available
He is too defensive loyo🚮
@@RaulJiminez-rd5eq sundowns is on that level after he built it. He won 3 champions leagues,with the so called defensive style
Not now he will be a good for us maara his relationship with some Sundownsfc officials will have its effects....
Rob lot is given much is required the budget they give him there is no coach in the PSL has that kind he failed but he is a good coach but I want him to go and prove how good he is at a team like Richards Bay where there is no budget and succeed
🤣 🤣 Imagine. You're crazy and I'm a Pirates fan. You should go prove yourself somewhere low and unworkable to see if you deserve your job
Rhulani was focusing on his goals not the club s goals to complete 1000 passes n dominate possession n not creat chances n win in africa
Hugo Broos loading
we 100% trust Flemming, he gave us this Rulani we are talking about, am sure he will bring someone better for team to move forward.
Aowa wena.. do your research. Rulani was part of Sundown long before Flemming. He was part of the development structure. Yoh di mushroom fans tsona 🤣
@@KayMutual_E its always laughable to hear people who dont do their research point others to go do such, Rulani was never a head coach at Downs before Flemming, so he gave us him, especially when he made him the main Head Coach and Sundowns will always be bigger than any other individual, Your mushroom fan!
@@thamsanqagamede528 context matters! he did not give us Rulani, Rulani was already co- head coach with Manqoba. He demoted Manqoba and Kompela to assistant coaches and left him as head coach.
@@thamsanqagamede528 its "you're" not "your".
Rhulani must go and put Magesi Fc on the map if he is a good coach
Is it safe to say Real Madrid's Ancelotti is not a good coach since he failed to win anything with Everton?
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I'm actually concerned about the state of analysts , journalists or genuine football lovers about this topic I feel like in South Africa the meaning of FAILURE is not properly understood SUNDOWNS played for 6 trophies this season and only won 2 which means success rate is 33.3% which is a FAIL whoever disagrees with the fact that Coach Rhulani failed this season at SUNDOWNS is just trying to sugar coat the truth. The Man City comparison should wait abit City are the noisy neighbors and we SUNDOWNS wants to be like REAL MADRID , AL AHLY teams that deal with the big Prize! not winning a Champions League with the kind of squad sundowns has is criminal .Mind you the core of the team got Bronze in the biggest Continental showpiece in the continent under Coach Hugo proving that with the right guidance they can/will conquer the continent. The whole self hate black people chat is always brought up as an excuse for black leaders to slack and offer the bare minimum , its called emotional blackmail , why can't every professional be held to the same standard?
Now champions league is loading.
Rhulani failed to meet his targets as per the contract. Whoever thinks he is a good coach is high. He is unprofessional as well. The manner he dealt with TS Galaxy was childish. He forced Mudau to play in the final because of his childness.
Bad example about city and sundowns, remember pep won everything cups, leage, and champions leag but rulani he hasn't won everything.
What a way to end your show Rob.🎉
Rhulane has the talent but he lacks experience and maturity, he is too young for the big club like Sundowns .
Too young but wins a lot with them.
Hamba too much talkative
The man at his age did very well very very well won most trophies
According to you unfortunately
Which most trophies?? 😅
The guy failed honestly
Bennie in a 18 area 😂 sundowns
Modimo o tla ba bona
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Flemming must go ,not Rhulane 😭. Sundowns will regret loosing Rhulane 🤞. The guy brought life back into Sundowns and Bafana Bafana,but just because he is gifted,young and black,he is constantly being hated on especially by fellow black people.
You are wrong my brother, Rhulane hates himself by thinking he's Pep Gaurdiola, stop with this black on black hate argument, it has merit elsewhere not in this argument
He's gone already
@@rorisangmatsiela8975 it has merit even now,cos that's actually why he is being vilified by everyone, including you and flemming berg 🚮
@RaulJiminez-rd5eq white coaches get crucified in Europe by white supporters and you never hear them complain about white on white hate, so Rhulane must not be criticized by black supporters? Rhulane is being let go for footballing reasons and nothing else, so stop being emotional, black fans are the consumers of South African football so who must criticise him?
I want to agree no one is perfect but Rhulani has brought vibrant life into Sundowns and Bafana & he broke records, set high standards but the question is can whoever that comes in be able to match that and surpass that , I see trouble looming for that poor soul unless he wins the league and Champions league.
The start of the downfall for sundowns by letting the coach the players played and died for. Now other teams will have a chance to win the league
Overated,,he must go to small team now and proves he is the best coach
Arrogance was Rhulani's downfall his personality is horrible is not a good person 🚮🚮
Coach Rhulani won AFL (R74 million), PSL(R 10 million), 2nd place Nedbank(R2.5 million), qualify for Club World Cup (1 Billion). That will never be determined as a loss.
Money wasn't the target...trophies were!
Rhulani is not the right coach at all he was trying by all means to purge players signed by former coach pitso that's why he was loosing much cup games and keep on signing expensive players without a cause..he deserve the door out
Rhulani did well the sport director I think he's jealous of the Young African man
He did nothing he lost 2 cup finals too pirates i knows he was going Flemingberg is not taking nonsense with the investment sundowns doing he was supposed 2 win 1 off the local cup
You must be living under a rock. What he has achieved it's worthy emulating.
After sundowns won the 2016 champion leagues after been eliminated in the first round if it was not for some technical fault by a certain a club they went down the hill.