SEAT Leon FR (1.4 TSI) First Drive
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2024
- So after having a go in the XCELLENCE model, I jumped in to the 1.4 litre petrol FR model. As I an FR owner (2006 Ibiza FR), I was looking forward to seeing what the newer version of its bigger brother had to offer.
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Great review and gorgeous car. That metallic blue paint is stunning!
Hello Andrew, once again, thanks for watching! Yes, that blue is gorgeous, and also features on the Cupra 300 model I drove later that day - video coming soon!
Good review. And I totally agree about those electronic handbrakes. I wonder why manufacturers feel the need to put unnecessary things like these, stop-start systems, and starter buttons on cars.
Thanks for watching! Yes, I'm not a fan, but it's not too bad when they work well; I've had some cars where the system is delayed, meaning that you sometimes get honked at the lights! The Ford Mondeo I've been driving this week has one, but thankfully it works really well, so no real complaint there. I drove a Golf GTI last week and that had one, I couldn't believe it!!!
They are brilliant, you are part of the few who don’t like them. VW’s one is impeccable and safer, all our cars in my family have them now and you never have to touch it because it automatically disengages and activates once stopped.
I just ordered this one and will get it delivered in the middle of august. Pirineos grey, DSG 7 and perhaps the most important thing, a black interior roof.
Nice., hope you enjoy it mate!
hi charles i just ordered mine aswell in the same color and also a black interior roof and alcantara seats mine is a manuel 1.4 150hp
Just brought one today! Had a Skoda fabia for years! Let’s hope this is a good choice!
I'm sure you'll be happy, thanks for watching.
@@CarObsession I noticed at the start you showed the exhaust, did you think it sounded nice in person? Notice a flutter either or is it pretty standard?
@@danfinch4434 Hi Dan, this was filmed a long time ago, so I can't remember too well. There's no flutter, though, it's pretty standard and nothing that is bound to really excite you.
I have a 1.4 125bhp 2018 fr tech but they don’t have turbos in them it’s naturally aspirated and it does feel like I’m always at petrol pumps with it 😂 good video though
Less to go wrong, less time at the mechanics...
Ordered this in the ST form (estate) 2l tsi 190 FR with the 7 speed auto. 5 month lead time! 2 months to go!
Did you got it yet?
@@jendaymate6183 I did picked it up mid November. Apart for my the small feul tank on a petrol that does 32mpg, I'm very happy with it. Cheers.
@@StephenButlerOne nice have fun and drive safe
@@jendaymate6183 always do both. I'm not always the slowest of drivers. It about know when it safe to have fun.
I was explain this exact topic with my 21 year old lad earlier as he was giving me a lift home earlier. Going a tad too quickly. And I'm sure he was going slow for him, cos I was in the car!
Though I drove like an idiot for my first year or two! I think all petrol heads are similar.
@@StephenButlerOne thinking of buying this car as my first one should get my license in half a year
still waiting on mine, been put back 11 week ( st fr 184 TDI dsg mystery blue 18" wheels
Hi Adam, thanks for watching! Well, let's hope it's worth the wait eh?
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Just ordered mine Leon 1.4 tsi 150 dsg fr in desire red 14 days ago
Waiting is killing mee.
Nice, I hope you enjoy it!
How long does it take to get delivered? I am considering ordering it too!
Literally just ordered mine yesterday but in the 1.4 with 125 engine. Also specced a couple of options like reversing camera and mystery blue paint. My waiting time is currently end of september/october! ffs!
I'm sure it will be worth waiting for though Jon! You know what they say, good things come to those who wait :)
Would you recommend this over the 2litre diesel. I seen you can tune the diesels to 200hp but I don’t know if I’d like the petrol to drive more
Hi Kameron, thanks for watching. I suppose it depends what kind of driving you're looking to do. If you mostly do short journeys then a diesel won't be the best bet.
@@CarObsession what if you do a combination of long and short journeys
@@Michael-lj3lm Then a diesel would be fine.
Im guessing the Xcellence doesnt have the sport suspension? Which did you prefer ? if you can remember since its a fair few years back now
After all this time it would be difficult to say in all honesty, sorry I can't be of much help. Thanks for watching.
Is this the 1.4 TSI 125HP or the 1.4 TSI ACT with 150HP? There is an enormous difference in torque between those 2 engines, I'm surprised you were not impressed with this engine so I assume this was the 125HP version? I was very impressed during a test drive. Also I think the Xcellence seats & cabinet details are much nicer than the FR. The gloss black will scratch easily over time and the red stitches are bit too much, but might appeal to young buyers.
Hello, thanks for watching! This was the 150PS unit and it's by no means bad, it's just not overly exciting. In hindsight, I think I should have tested the 1.8 litre. I too prefer the seats in the XCELLENCE, they're more supportive if you ask me. I personally like the black gloss, but I can see what you mean, plus it will be a fingerprint magnet... I also like the red stitching, must prefer it to the Cupra's white stitching.
Thanks for the quick response, your videos are nice to watch. Well I'm coming from a 90HP turbodiesel, so I guess my experience was a bit clouded by that, haha!
No worries pal, I always try and respond as quickly as possible! Thanks for the kind words, it's always appreciated! Hopefully you'll continue to enjoy my videos.
Shame they stick the fr badge on lower powered versions there used to be a time it was just one down from the cupra so it should be for the 220-230bhp 2 litre petrol turbo
Yes, my 1.8 litre Ibiza FR is rather good fun and it can be rather fast when you want it to be. This 1.4 model feels a little too grown up and lacks the excitement I was looking for.
Car Obsession get yours remapped and it will be a lot better
Haha, one day!
Trust me just do it best mod I made for my diesel torque went up from 230 ft lbs to 320 ft lbs with no other mods
I've about to recive trh 2l 190 version so it's getting up there. What's holding them back is the new emission laws. They could easily push 240-50 out of the 2l tsi, but emissions would exponentially grow.
Hi car obsession ordered my seat leon 1.4 eco tsi nevada white with machined alloys... 😀 was just wondering is the car fast or is it mediocre
Hello Lakhan, did you not test it before you bought it? 😱 I can't ever imagine buying a car before I had tested it in all honesty. The 1.4 Eco TSI is not a bad engine, but I was expecting a little more from it in all honesty. Despite this, I wouldn't say it's mediocre by any means, but I wouldn't call it fast either. Thanks for watching my friend.
is the seat leon fr equivalent to the golf gti? Just had a test drive in one, was pretty impressed, perhaps not as "sporty" as previous gen models but a good contender that balance cost with performance/kit
Well I suppose it depends how you look at it. In regards to power, it's a bit lop-sided as the most powerful FR is able to offer 178bhp whereas the Golf GTI is able to offer 227bhp, which can be increased if you choose the Performance Pack. Thanks for watching T L.
ok i didn't realise sorry bout that. In general i dont like how most new cars have skimped on the build materials but then added alot of electrical equipment which lets face it is what makes the car expensive. Newer models are a bit dull particular in the vw range no character or creative design. Just my opinion.
T L actually this equipment is better for your pocket. The front assist makes insurance on this car for me a new driver as cheap as a £1000 used car, it’s the same for the golf as well
T L The FR isn't a performance upgrade, merely a spec pack. Think of it like VW's R line or Peugeots GT line. Unless a new bumper or steering wheel ads 100Nm torque and 50 bhp.
It's just some versions of the more powerful Leon are only available in the FR trim. If you want a GTI equivalent go for a Cupra.
Forgive me if this is a stupid question.
I currently have a Fiat Punto 1.2 Evo, it's my first car and I've had it for just over 2 years now. Anyway, I'm going to get rid of it and I've been searching for a replacement for around 3 days and this is the car and model that's caught my eye. My budget is sort of limited and in all honestly this looks like the perfect upgrade for me. Your thoughts please? And if you think I'll enjoy this more than the punto?😂 thanks. Subscribed
Hi Grant, thanks for watching (and subscribing). A Fiat Punto was actually my first car, although it was a Mk2 ELX, not a Mk3 Evo. I have driven an Abarth Punto Evo, though, so I still think I'm able to answer this question. The Leon will feel leaps and bounds ahead of your Evo, although I suppose it ought to as this is the much newer car.
The Leon will feel better built, more refined, more grown up, and it will of course have more technology. It's a smart looking car and it's also a good car to drive. I very much doubt you'll regret ditching your Punto for this.
@@CarObsession Thanks for the response! My mind is made up. There's a 2015 model at the local dealership with 16k miles on it for a reasonable price that I've seen, do you reckon I should look around more and maybe get a newer model? Maybe a 17 plate ?
@@Groindz That's entirely up to you, you're the one buying 😉
@@CarObsession Not the response I wanted but probably the response i deserve Haha. I would like to ask you a few more questions but I don't want to seem annoying or be a hassle 😅
You're not being a hassle mate, I just don't want to influence your decision TOO much.
I ordered the Excellence 1.4 eco estate a month ago .... almost 6 MONTHS wait though , imo they are exactly the same car , with one or two 'packs' thrown into the Excellence ... the FR version looks ever so slightly cheesy imo as its never really a 'racing ' car .. that said both versions are rather handsome
6 months? Blimey, that is quite a wait, I hope it's worth it though! Thanks for watching Peter 👍
Thanks for the great vid .. yeah apparently .. the 1.4 eco engine is in such high demand it adds an extra 7 weeks to the already long wait .... p.s is that road between Cheltenham and Oxford ?
Alot nicer than xcellence
Hello Kestrel, thanks for watching. Yes, that 'Mystery Blue' colour is gorgeous!
i have ordered mine and got the standard med blue colour
Yeah, the Mediterranean Blue is still a nice shade.
Hope so!
Very curious which one is better
Leon/ Ibiza/ VW polo ?
Hello mate, you've already asked this question on another one of my videos and the answer remains the same - thanks for watching,
@@CarObsession yes I had problem with TH-cam and seemed my questions didn't load when indeed they did
Thanks again for answering and for a great videos !
I'm thinking to order this one. (leon fr 1.4 tsi 150hp) Is it worth the money or should i go on something else?
Hello George, it's certainly not a bad motor, but I'd personally have the 1.8. The Leon is definitely a decent car
I've driven the 1.4 150hp and the 1.8 180hp. Honestly, the difference is pretty small. The 1.8 can go higher in rpm's, but the amount of torque is the same (250Nm). For a daily drive, you practicaly don't feel the difference and the 1.4 is more economic.
if u like torque, u must try 2.0 tdi = 380 Nm/ 184hp... that's mean torque+50%
What mpg did you get city driving
Hi buddy, I can't say as this was a short drive and I didn't do any city driving - thanks for watching.
Car Obsession yeah I know thought I would ask anyway. I don't know what I want for my next car its coming down to this or golf 1.4 tsi since i want a petrol for city driving
Late reply but I’m getting 48mpg around town and 55mog motorways
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Does anyone no if this one is with 250 nm torque or is it 200 ?
And what about the standard sports seats is it half leader/textile or
is it all textile ?And what about the breaking pointed out in the video,
isent the brake discs the same diameter in bouth FR and Excelence ?
Hello Poul, thanks for watching. 250Nm of torque, textile seats, same diameter brakes.
Nice car. In my opinion all that glossy plastic looks very cheap. The material used in the xcellence version looks way better. Also, on glossy plastic you will see al those little scratches. I fucking hate that.
Awful gear changes
Hi Joel, thanks for watching and thanks for the feedback.
Show the instrument panel and road in front of you, instead of yourself. Why would anyone want to see you? It's the car and driving experience we're interested in.
There are two alternative angles in this video, one of which is of the road in front (admittedly the one facing the dash is wonky, but I didn't have the time to get everything set up properly). Also, the majority of car reviews show the presenter/reviewer talking to camera, so I'm not really sure what you complaint is 🤷♂️. How many car reviews have you seen where you don't see the person reviewing it at all???
I think you just need more B-roll footage interwoven in your reviews to compliment your narrative whilst showcasing the car under review, apart from that no complaints even though I don't agree with all the commentary about the 1.5 FR which I think is a very capable and well equipped car with a nice bit of punch whilst still remaining economical to drive.
@@tabboo5576 Hi there, thanks for watching. I understand what you say, but I had the car for a limited amount of time, so there was only so much footage I could get. Thanks for the feedback, though.
@@tabboo5576 I'm confused about your comments about what I said about the engine? I was complimentary about it and I also said it's pretty frugal?
@@CarObsession I'm no disputing that you were complimentary about the engine I was just commenting that it feels pretty good to me and but I would not expect it to be in the same class as the CUPRA 300 so would not necessarily compare it to that in terms of the missing element that you speak of.