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AR500 ARMOR STEEL Vs. 150 Ton Hydraulic Press | Will it go through?
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Can our 150 ton hydraulic press push a hole in to bullet proof AR500 / Hardox 500 armor / wear steel? We are going to try push steel nut, ball bearing, piece of high quality tool steel and giant steel spike through the armor.
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And I forgot to mention on the video but the plate was 12mm / half a inch thick. So good up to .338 Lapua. And the video where we explode the box that you saw at the NordVPN part is going to be exploded into pieces on next weeks Beyond the Press video! So no worries that's coming soon :D
I'd kill for a plate that thick
Red Hot Hardox Plate vs. _____________? 🔥
Golf ball. Hockey Puck. Sentti-Spede. etc. :)
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Next time try using a better piece of tool steel. It looked like you used an old HSS drill shank and those are not hardened like the tips and flutes of a drill. Try some HSS round bar or the shank of a thread tap
SSAB makes different kinds, Hardox but also Armox for military use
I'd like to see a thermal image of the items being pressed. It'd be cool to see how hot they get as they get pressed
They would be very cool. Or should I say hot lol
💡 Awesome Idea, hope they do it some time, with all the chronos cameras they've bought I'm sure they could spring for a heat sensing lens
They recently made a video on that. It's titled Crushing Heat-Sensitive Steel Pipes with Hydraulic Press | Thermochromic Paint Reaction!.
Or just throw water at it would give a cool visual of how hot it gets.
I bet it's VERY warm! lol
I never imagined in retirement I'd be watching a channel where a guy uses a hydraulic press to smoosh things. And enjoying it!
U enjoy ur retirement buddy u deserve it.
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the same
*Somebody finally made a video of all that sh.t I do in my mind...*
*In retirement...*
Anni's "Ooooh" at the 3:30 mark and other similar reactions throughout your videos always puts a smile on my face.
Was that 'tool steel' from an old drill bit? Usually, the shaft of the drill is soft so it doesn't mess with your tool's jaws if it slips.
from what I can see it does look like a softer metal than the tool steel you genuinely machine with, very good observation that it is probably the shaft of a drill or milling bit
Looks like drill bit to be
This is what I came here to say. It looks like the shank of an HSS drill bit and they are not as hard as the tip.
yeah and it wasnt cut straight which made it tip over
LIES!!! THE SHAFT IS MUCH STRONGER THAN THE ACTUAL JAWS OF THE DRILL!!!
A VERY slow but very persistent bullet
Well said :D
Didn't even need the Slo-Mo camera to watch it either. :)
You defeat hardened steel with speed, not mass :)
@The Monster Under Your Bed Speed increases force, which is percieved mass, but not actual mass
@@specialopsdave about to say that
You guys still kick ass after all these years
Some years ago a colleague of mine tested out different types of steel and stainless steel with a G-3 rifle. All plates was 10mm. Most metals the bullet went through easily, but the Hardox had just a little mark like someone had drawn a point with a pencil.
Honestly, that plate could have been as thin as ~6.5mm and still handled the G3 all day long. Steel body armor plates are generally that thickness to handle multiple hits of 7.62 NATO.
I normally avoid ads like the plaque and turn down the volume or skip, but yours are creative and funny. They can be proud you're making ads for them. You should take more money. :)
What’s the most powerful hydraulic press? Are there kiloton (1000-ton) presses?
There is much larger ones than that in car and airplane industry. I don't remember how large are the largest but some thing like 40 000 tons.
The chocolate rain press!
80 kiloton
lol, I never guessed I'd see Tay in the chat of a HPC video
@TayZonday th-cam.com/video/hpgK51w6uhk/w-d-xo.html
The NordVPN “commercial” was brilliant - that anvil, I mean Geo blocking, really flew. 👍🏼😄
That was a commercial worth watching!
4:18 actually startled me. Holy shit.
I actually jumped when it happened haha
Ni hao!
Yeah, that got me good.
5:04 was worse
My poor cat was sitting on the subwoofer. RIP St. Inky
I got home from work not long ago. I'm exhausted, and dozing off while trying to watch.
Suddenly bearing ball explodes!
😴💥😳🤯
The ball bearings exploded like the Death Stars.
That started the Daylights out of me LMAO!
I don't remember when I learned that ball bearings explode when they fail, but when he put one up there I said, "oh shit. Those things explode. Here we go."
Why do they explode though?
I'm guessing the song he uses for his intro is one from youtube because I heard it on some random other channel and I seriously expected to hear "Velcomhoodrolicpresschanel"
It's a song from a metal band, I forgot the name of the song but I think he used to include it in the description.
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Listen to the whole song!
Why does my Shazam comment keep getting deleted. The Googs don't approve?
I just assumed he wrote and played the song himself, you know, because he’s Scandinavian.
Excellent Work!!! Ar500 generic tends to be a little harder than Hardox 500 (48HRC) that comes in 400/500/550/600 Brinnel hardness But Hardox uses virgin ore and approx 0.03% Boron than helps with through hardening properties and tends to be tougher overall with higher Charpy values :-)) Armox is the same company, basically a lean medium carbon steel 1040 class grain refined ,quenched and Tempered. When shooting armour piercing rounds at steel plate quite often the round does not always push through but like with fast lead core fmj rounds it actually fractures the steel and knocks a plug through, hence Charpy Test is of greatest importance ;-)))
Hardox is a product by SSAB, its a wear/abrasion resistant steel. SSAB makes an actual ballistics resistant steel called Armox.
This should be higher up
The "hardest" SSAB product steel is actually Hardox Extreme. 700 brinell hardness. Harder than Armox.
@@prandomable some times hardness can be the problem, a s harder it get the the more brittle it gets i've fractured an bit of 700 brinell hardness bit of steel before weres the 500 brinell hardness kept going although it get bent a bit ( repeated hits)
@@alterianspartan yes. Usually harder the steel is the more brittle is also becomes. I think harder steel also have higher tensile strength and yield strength too.
Softer steels are more ductile.
Yep, Hardox does good in this HPC torture test. This application of slow pressing, grinding, abrasion is actually what Hardox is meant to withstand. Hardox is often used in the dump truck beds meant for hauling rocks and gravel, I think also teeth for digging bucket/scoops, edges of bulldozer scapers and such. Armox is meant to be ductile and resistant even in really fast loading applications like containing/resisting explosives and projectile energy dissipation. I think however Armox might be subject to special licensing because of it's obvious usage in warfare equipment... you don't want everybody to be on equal terms...
I like to play these with headphones. The ball bearing explosion actually startled me! No explosion including dynamite has ever startled me like that. Cool channel, you guys. Keep it up.
I paused because I wanted to answer a whatsapp but when I pressed space (on PC) I just heard a "funny" sound and saw the sparks on my screen, that wa svery surprising!
I was so startled that my phone flew out of my hands. 😂
Especially when youre sleepy i got scared and scares my cat beside me
yeah i actually jumped when it popped ahahahaha
Lauri dislikes woodworking so much, he had to deal with that plywood. 😀
I bet Americans watched that in horror. That stack was probably worth $200 over there?
It might be interesting to watch with an Infrared camera.
Hadn't thought of that, heck yeah!
That's a good idea
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I thought the pointy spike was starting to go thru for sure. Nope, just flattened out.
Hardox is a brand of AR (Abrasion Resistant) steel and it is also available in the US. If you specify "AR500" on a drawing, its telling the vendor that any equivalent material is suitable. Though, if you want a specific brand to assure a higher level of quality or tighter property tolerances, you can specify Hardox or similar brand.
Since you have a new sensor now, what about a new measuring device which can draw graphs over time or distance? Especially a distance/force graph would be really cool, then all you need is a encoder to measure the cylinders travel.
Also in the past you showed us a device which can pull things apart. Never saw it again. Will it come back?
Excellent idea, man. 👍
The thing that is being overlooked is the incredible strength of the wood!!!
The big thing that beats hardened armor is speed, not necessarily pressure. My money is on the hydraulic spike all day if you can get it to move at about 2000 fps or higher.
Fps? You missed Dpi. 🤣
@@ArythemB feet per second.
To a certain point speed is just a different way of expressing pressure...
... but past that point, shear rate does become a factor
Good idea with having the cool slow motion footage of the vise lifting off when you were talking about the VPN sponsor. I didn't fast forward (like I normally would) because of that.
Advertisers take note - get Lauri to do your ads, people might actually watch them :)
Elon Musk said Tesla might make ads if the advertisements weren't something you regretted seeing.
HPC is about the only channel where I watch the ads (done by Lauri). Who wouldn't want to see an anvil blown up?
@@isthatatesla no such thing as an ad I wouldnt regret sitting through. Those fuckers will probably put them on the screen in your car too.
I skipped right through.
I have TH-cam premium soooo
The bearing exploding still startled the crap out of me and I knew it was going to happen.
Also you proved that "Soft Nuts" will always get squished. ;D
Your ads are just as entertaining as the video! Nice work. You deserve more sponsors!
You should try a tool tip of tungsten carbid - that would go through.
Don't think so. Carbide tools are used in machining all the time and they cut best with speed. They're used because tungsten carbide can take high temperatures better and tungsten carbide tools remove large amounts of material quickly and reduce machining times.
HSS tools can take slow speeds, but they're still softer than armored steel. Cutting speeds with HSS are about 10% of what tungsten carbide can do.
Yes but its kinda expensive..and hard to make.
I bet titanium rod do this.
While a lot of armor piercing ammo does use a tungsten carbide piece to cut through, speed is going to be key to penetrate this metal. Generally speaking the harder the metal is the more brittle it becomes so it would likely just explode under high pressure I would think.
I used to work at a High Pressure Pipe Forming company. We did from 4 3/4”od to 36”od, in 1 1/2” stainless steel, plus many other materials, including aluminum, tungsten, chromoly, and titanium. My press had a 1,200 Ton capacity and you could drive a car through the Ram Bed floor. It was huge.
Would be cool to see a comparison of different Hardox plates, or Hardox vs. Armox vs. Ramor steel plates.
I would love to see the ball bearing explosion in super slow mo. it such a satisfying boom
Those ball bearings has me thinking about how much force there had to have been to cause the big bang. A universe's worth of matter concentrated into a single point under immense forces. Insane.
No... there was NO matter. There was/is a universe packed with "quantum grit" in zero motion. An asymmetry caused a wave to ripple through it, causing that lazy stored energy to liberate itself by forming subatomic building blocks through the motion imparted to said "grit". At the instant the disturbance began, yes, all the motion (and thus "matter", kinda) existed in a singularity, but it in no way held all the currently existing matter. That is why the current expansion of spacetime exceeds c, it is not effecting anything "material", thus not held to that einsteinian speed limit. It's just grit gaining motion as the matrix of grit that held it immobile decays.
@@ludditeneaderthal - I feel like you should provide a source to back your claims.
That stuff is crazy hard. We regularly have to mill a new edge on for blades in industrial wood chipper machines.
Actually the chips in my hand in my picture are from hardox.
I miss the “here we go, three two one!” 😦 That always got my adrenaline jacked up.
I am glad everyone is okay. I jumped a kilometre when the ball bearing exploded.
I love Mrs. Hydraulic's reactions in the background. Her surpised "oh!" and her evil-villain chuckle letting you know what she expected to see.
Should do the same tests. With mild steel stainless steel and aluminum as well so we can see the difference
And maybe the spike needs. Hss tip
Hey, something that I happened to know a bit about! Quick summary for anyone wanting a background on hardened steels: AR500, in the western world at least, is better known for its Abrasion Resistance (hence the AR) and come in many many rating flavors. Where 500 has come to be known as target steel, there are also higher ratings, 700 for instance would be used on digger buckets for industrial backhoes. There's nothing super magical about AR500, it's just tough and relatively cheap.
What is interesting about this case is that defeating armor typically involves tremendous force (in ballistics, more speed) on a smaller surface area combined with material choice. That same ball bearing propelled at higher speed would still shatter/splinter against AR500, however with sufficient force AND speed behind it, very interesting things can make an eye-opening difference on penetrative qualities. =)
yep for an extreme impossible to do example if you through a ball bearing by hand at a metal wall not much will happen you might hurt yourself more then the wall. however same ball baring at say mach idk 300 just for the hell of it and the baring the wall you are prop not going to exist for long....now i just want to see a mad scientist shoot some small object at 10's of thousands of miles per minute at some kind of wall and just see what kind of destruction a tiny object can do. like a grain of sand of the speed of light could destroy the earth if im not wrong so small size but massive speed can do mad damage
and just think, ballistics are only hampered by air resistance and gravity, imagine how thick armor on a spaceship would have to be to stop a bullet traveling at speeds in the tens of thousands of miles per hour
Genuinely made me jump when the ballbearing exploded! 😂
When that first ball bearing exploded I literally pooed myself
This is the only channel that delivers with surprising jump scares.
Ar in ar500 stands for abrasion resistant. Like a cutting edge for a plow needs to be ar plate but its really not as hard as most people think.
I always thought it stood for “Armalite Rifle”!
video starts at @ 2:07
Hardox (450 to 700) made by SSAB in Sweden.
True armor piercing bullets have a core harder than average tool steel. Closer to ar800-850 hardness. Some old soviet era ammo used mild tool steel for bullet cores to save money over using all lead cores. Many people falsely call any steel core/tip bullet armor piercing, even though the steel inside is only about ar200 equivalent hardness. Great video overall. I was hoping to see one of these things go through though. All things in time.
PRETTY COOL PRESSING. THE FLYING ANVIL WAS VERY NEAT. ESPECIALLY THE SLOW MOTION. *:-)*
The Finnish Space Program grows stronger every day.
It's from another video on their second channel.
Hardox is actually not for shooting, this would be Armox. Both are steels from SSAB...
They definitely use hardox to make those gong targets, whether it's designed for it or not doesn't really matter if people just use it for making them anyway and they work
The reason shooting targets are often made from hardox rather than armox is the price. Since targets are considered to be consumables you don't need to use the premium grade stuff designed for use as armour. Sure you would be able to use thinner guage material for the same bullet resistance if you chose armox but it'd be so much more expensive than just using a thicker piece of hardox, and since with targets the weight difference doesn't really matter it makes sense to go with the cheaper option that is just as effective
Yes Hardox is for abrasion / impact resistance. Often used in mining for chutes etc.
@@Lilith-Rose yes, this sounds true. But when you shoot weaker steels the bullet likes to punch a deep dent in it and the shrapnels will fly back at the shooter. This is the reason why for good targets Armox is used.
@@thomasl945 because of the minimal difference in hardness and incredible abrasion resistance of hardox its less of an issue than you'd think
Every time I watch one of your vids, I can’t wait for the moment you exclaim the words “Holy Sheeeet!”
@7:38 no, it's the 2nd most important event. The main event, as always, is Anni's extra content work of art, and the Hydraulic Press saving us from its evil intentions😁
Try the ceramic ball bearing, that seemed pretty tough even when shot with a rifle round.
That is how you do a NORDVPN ad. Well done sir.
I miss the “bearing balls”
We use AR500 in a foundry I work at. We have a drag chain conveyor with paddles every 2 meters to move foundry sand and slag. The paddles were originally made of hot rolled mild steel and would have to be replaced every 6 months. We invested in AR500 for the paddles replaced them last year. They look almost like the day we installed them after 12 months. That is remarkable.
That's exactly the kind of use AR steels were created for. AR steel isn't armor, it's abrasion resistant. Most of it ends up as cutting edges on earth moving equipment.
That explosion would have looked great on a phantom camera, you should do a slowmoguys collab
2:13 did you get a second version of the nut where you put it lying flat so the crushing didn’t dissipate the energy as much?
HARDOX has a near cult following... but for good reason
Frdis said he would not
“We need to make our tools out of it” 😂😂 yup!!
Nice vid btw!
Hydraulic press - best Christmas present EVER.
All this breaking of nuts and balls reminds me of an old girlfriend.
Looks like I married one of your exes. Pray for me.
what did I jusy witness??
just*
😳😀😂🤣😆
Man i thought the spike poked through. Then he pulled it out and I was like "vat da fack?"
This would have made a great recurring segment on the David Letterman show: Squashing random things with a 150 ton press.
I don't know if you have, but you should do a video on pressing different variants of ice; crushed, solid, snow, packed snow, etc. Although, I think it's still pretty hot in Finland.
Ar500 technically isn't armor steel, it's just a grade of Abrasion Resistant steel, like dump-truck scoops. Still a wonderful video! :)
Us military (possibly others) used ar500 steel plates during the iraq/afghanistan wars. Its easier to make and cheaper than the standard esapi ceramic/kevlar plates. The steel is more durable long term. They've since moved to ceramic hybrid armor that saves weight but costs the taxpayers even more to fund. As long as the bullet isnt AP or going faster than 3300fps, it a decent choice for ppe if you dont mind an extra 15lbs. (Not the best, but a still viable option) 👍✌️
What is a dump truck scoop
@@derteufel7981 the bucket
@@GenScinmore that's what figured I were referring too. I've always heard them referred to as the bed or rarely bucket. There is a blade or scoop attachment can be fitted to some on the forward most part of the truck.
@@Milspecpoptart No they didn't. People really just be saying shit. Ceramic has been deployed in IBAs since the late 90s. People that didn't get IBAs got old PASGTs or "Flak", which were just kevlar as the military industrial complex caught up with production. AR-500 has never been rated by the US military in any proving ground as safe for performing as armor, and therefore would have never been issued as armor. If a steel plate was ever issued, it would have been RHA, or Rolled Homogeneous Armor, specified under MIL-DTL-46177, which was inactivated in 2009.
Watching the ball bearing I was thinking 'Yeah, oh smooth sinking, sinking and sinki.....' KA-BOOM and I jolted my neck... Thanks HPC, thanks a lot 🤨.......... 😉😂
It's so awesome that a 50 BMG round from a rifle can go through this! Awesome demo, and pretty risky too. You should measure the speed and kinetic energy of the ball bearing chunk that exploded out...probably like a 22 cal bullet?
His reaction to the spike when it lifted was hilarious😂 I was not expecting that either
I'm curious whether the explosion causes damage to the press over the long run? And also when the stuff slide?
I wonder if there's cavitation in the hydraulic system, slowly eating away at the cylinder and the pump, one video at a time. I've often thought Lauri could simply put the two bottom plates on top of each other instead of next to each other to add some rigidity to "explosive" setups, but that probably doesn't make for popular videos. It seems to me like much of the deflection springback comes from the base plates and not from the rest of the press.
What’s going on here...hi didn’t call them “bearing balls” 😂
This is one of the most wholesome channels on the internet. You are doing mankind a favor by squishing things. Squish on, good soul, squish on.
4:18 - headphone user, almost spilt my coffee!! haha, that went with a real bang
Wow
4:17 I really want to see a Slo Mo Guys or Smarter Every Day video of this explosion. Edit: Or someone pls buy HPC a Phantom TMX.
Hydraulic Press Channel have better equipment or at least they used to. Look at their "slo motion oxygen acetylene explosion" video. Best I've ever seen. 128 cameras or something in halo configuration..
someone once stored a 5mm hardox450 near the plate shear (cutter) ...yeah it was noticeable when it placed in there by mistake!!
A R is what I used to weld all over the rock crushers. Abrasion-resistant.
Dolomite will scratch through it in less than 80 hours. 4 inch thick blocks.
A lot of the liners are chromium. They're 6in thick and they wear down
SSAB Hardox
I’m an experienced viewer, so I knew to turn my headphones down when I saw a ball bearing. 💥
Lol who use headhones in YT videos anyway???:):)
Iam happy with 5.1 Sound system.
@@joe125ful lol I’m at work 90% of my life so have to use headphones.
@@MoHawkAnakin Sooo sad life....
@@joe125ful From the way you talk I’m assuming you don’t live in the United States, here in the states we work hard and make a lot of money to retire early. You will probably still be working until the day you die. So sad life..
@@MoHawkAnakin Lol work hard for shorter period or work less hard for longer time....i rather chooose less work and longer time.
When you work harder your body gets tired faster/more stress/higher chance to be sick..etc.
My brother hard working too,11-12Hours per day in foundry yes he gets 1000Euros per months but after 8 years his back get seriously damaged because he manipulated with heavy stuff now he cant do that anymore...iam not sure if hard work worth in long periode,in short it worth but long time hard working kill you faster.
It would have been something if the bunny punched through the plate. lol
I never thought a Finnish couple and a hydraulic press could be so interesting. Thank you!
You guys need to get a camera that can actually do super slow-mo. You're missing out on a bunch of awesome footage of all of these catastrophic failures.
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That steel tube acted like a squash head round it was really neat to see it that close and that that's slow
That ball bearing explosion made me jump and flinch. Good job scaring the crap outta me.🤪
basically the ball bearing explosion is how a nuclear bomb works, just even pressure is applied to the ball of terror
Next: plate vs Tool-steel spike on 100T press and Tool-steel spike in Smashinator 5e6
That first ball bearing explosion made me jump, lol. That was a fun video, thank you.
The steel penetrator goes through AR-500 when it's moving fast because the target doesn't have time to bend and spread the pressure around. I watched a video where somebody shot a plate like that with a .22 Swift round, one of the fastest bullets in the world (but very small.) It was just a regular jacketed lead bullet, but it went right through.
Hi! Hardox is made by SSAB, so it is made by your Swedish neighbors.
Big portion of it is made in Finland as well.
@@wattius3432 Wow, I did not know this! Do you know where? In Sweden, if I am not wrong, they make the Hardox at Oxelösund.
@ SSAB Raahe. They make about 1800 different varieties of steel. It's the company's largest facility if i'm not mistaken.
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Just to be clear, most armor piercing bullets have either tungsten or toolsteel cores, but there are two guns that use depleted uranium cores for their AP bullets
"Oh kayy. Pretty tough steel 'oly shit." Hahaha perfect reaction.
Loved the "Slow-mo" sound of the ball-bearings breaking :-) Especially the second one.
Also what would happen if you took a tungsten penetrator, like a broken drill bit or something similar, welded it to a stabilizing back plate to make it less likely to tumble when the pressure mounts up?
Still a fun video.
My guess, It would basically be a spikey version of the ball bearing. On softer materials, either no deformation and it goes through, or the pressure goes too big and it suddenly blows apart in an explosion of shards. On hard things, the tip breaks off first and then when it is blunter it goes a bit and then blows apart completely.
@@Knuspabrot Fair enough, would still be fun to see though ;-)
@@widgren87 Of course, crushing thick carbite milling cutter would be awesome! Big explosion and lots of crazy shards flying at insane speed. It would be cool to try next to some ballistics gel maybe.
@@Knuspabrot Sounds right about perfect for this channel ;-)
Toast!
Try the following setup:
1. Use a plasma torch & cut off a piece of the AR500 material.
2. Grind the cut-off piece into a cylinder shape that is about 7mm longer than the thickness of the AR500 plate thickness with a diameter that is equal to the thickness of the AR500 plate material.
3. Grind one end of the cylinder into a 45 degree V shape
4. Place the pointed end of the cylinder at the AR500 plate & hold it in a vertical position with a nut that has an inner diameter that is just barely larger than the diameter of the cylinder.
5. Press the cylinder with your 150 ton press rapidly (as fast as you can without damaging your press).
This channel is absolutely pure gold; thank you!
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5:02 you were close to splitting the atom and creating a mushroom cloud :D
GEEEZ! I had the volume way up when the explosion happened with the ball bearing. Nearly wet myself!