I bought a new ebike last Sunday and of course, inspired by this video installed an AirTag with an Amazon under the seat holder. 3 days after purchasing the bike, it was stolen! Thanks to this very video though, because I did install the modified AirTag I was able to track down my bike again, contacted emergency services and the police apprehended the thief. Now I have my bike back! Thanks so much!
@@giftedone831 I wish it was! It was a very stressful 18 hour period between theft and recovery, but thankfully was successful. I also tore the AirTag apart and removed the speaker before installing as an extra layer of security so it wouldn't beep at any would-be thief--definitely would recommend doing this too.
put two air tags, one quite easy to find, like in the saddle bag and another one in a more hidden location with the speaker hacked. once the thief find and ditch the first one, even if it still get a notification, it will probably thinks it is still referring to the old one
i manage to put six tag inside my bike it help track my bike within 3 hours after it got stolen last week and call police to help recover my bike within 5 hours it got stolen , and catch the thief
@@scottgriz 1. inside my frame where seat post are 2.inside my seat post need make your air tag smaller first 3. Inside saddle need to remove the screw and put it inside the saddle , 4. Two inside the fork, 6. inside handle bar ( require to drill a big hole and use sand paper or cutter to reduce your airtag size) , one inside my cargo mount
I use the AirTag and will kill the speaker! Your point of it following is well taken, but I don’t see this as a long term solution, you will have to recover the bike ASAP, and hopefully the criminal will be lax. These guys are opportunistic and they may not spend enough time to seek it.
@@bikepackingadventure7913they’ll find one, toss it, and think they’re in the clear until a minute later when their iPhone notifies them that an AirTag is moving with them. You could put 1000 AirTags. Their iPhone will keep notifying them an AirTag is moving with them until they find them all.
Great video, thanks for showing where the tabs are! One thing to note: if you're in an area where seats get stolen, or if you have a particularly nice saddle, you might want to choose a different location. Lezyne makes a bottle cage with a super inconspicuous space for an airtag, there is also a company which makes one to fit inside your wheel if you're running tubeless. Might be giving too much cred to the intelligence of thieves, but something to think about. I think probably using one of those headset caps is the best solution, doesn't look at all out of place and not a component that a thief is likely to change or remove.
''headset cap '' what is that? when I hear that expression, I'm thinking it 's something the riders wears over there heads or ears , (not something attatched to the Ebike?)
it's not very common to see people with a fat tire E Bike that weighs over say 50 lbs, with tubeless tyres, in fact there are not any tires that are tubeless with the exception of maybe 1 brand that offers a tubeless tire for heavier traditonal Ebikes that have 20X4 or 24X4 or 26X4 tires, (at least that's what I've discovered so far) So out of curiosity, what is the exact size of the tires that your referring to you put your airtag in? and what is the approximate weight of the Ebike, (maybe I'm missing out ?)
Great video! I have another solution to mounting. Just get Black Gorilla tape. It looks like it belongs on dark surfaces. It is waterproof and way durable. My bike has lots of tape/decals to protect electronics so it looks like it belongs. I ran one over a year on the bottom bracket of my Specialized Levo. Under the seat would make it functionally invisible, and a great idea!
Thanks for the tutorial! The operation appears to be a success. I've asked my husband to take my now mute airtag to work with him tomorrow so I can double check that it is truly tracking after getting in its innards. I don't have access to a 3D printer so I found a water bottle carrier that has a discreet space that I can place it and have it still sitting flush against the frame (there are some that fit under it but they look like they be too easily spotted by someone who knows what to look for.) My new e-bike is ordered and the bike shop is waiting for it so they can assemble it. I'll take the bottle holder over to their shop and they can install it when they're getting my bike ready. The only thing that concerns me is that the bottle holder comes with anti-theft screws for installation and that might offer a hint to have a closer look.
I sanded an AirTag down to make it a bit smaller, wrapped it in duct tape and jammed it up the steerer tube. It’s black tape so you’d need a torch and to remove the wheel to find it.
Also. Use torx screws instead of the standard allen key heads and cinch them down with blue loctite. This makes it much more difficult for them to remove the tag once they have found it. It won't prevent tampering entirely, but it will likely buy you an hour or so while they try to figure out a way to get the tag off.
Thanks for the video. But using anti theft screws would be more beneficial. To be honest, thief will find the AirTag under the seat immediately. I’d recommend also getting a underseat tool bag, that’d perfectly hide the tag. They’re really cheap.
The irony is that their first idea was the most sneaky, although it didn't work. So then they went to the worst idea of the options they showed earlier lmao
What I did was superglue mine to the metalic part of the seat. It still works, I can replace the battery, and it takes 1000 pounds of force to remove it
@@psps6623 once people open them up, we will be able to see which things are where and be able to plan accordingly to remove or damage the speaker, so it doesn't make sound.
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Worst case scenario you'll need a soldering iron to desolder.
Even if you destroy the speaker, the perpetrator's iPhone will still get a message right? so he could pretty much presume that the bike was tagged and he could search for it on it, and remove it, am I correct or not?
@@lawrencegrace9302it does. It’s another anti-stocking feature. The person gets a notification on their phone and they can click it and make it ring. The thief will still get the message, the speaker has just been removed. That’s entirely how AirTags work to begin with, they connect to other device’s Bluetooth and the other persons phone automatically uses its own data and location information to update Apple servers on where it saw the AirTag.
Yes, doing this just slows the process down for them. You’d still need to react quickly. Or if they can’t find it quickly they might decide just to ditch the bike and move on to avoid getting caught.
There two types of bike thiefs. 1) The full professionals who steal in large quantities and have some sort of business model behind it all. There is little to no chance of fighting them of, but they are also the much rarer type. 2) The more common thief is looking for a quick buck, wants to sell parts, or ride the bike themselves. They are much more likely to be deterred by good theft protection, registered frames and gps tracking.
You really need to make it harder to remove the tag . E.g. use security bolts or put some glue on them, else this is too easy for the thief. Also, in this location they could easily break them away, I'd make a holder that can go somewhere it's hard to apply force. Ah yes, and get rid of the quick release levers if you want to keep your wheels and saddle.
Not sure about that: if the carbon fibres touch one another they will form a Faraday cage. Not as conductive as metal but could be enough to swallow most of your signal
I’m thinking even if thief gets notification and hour later. They would probably ditch the bike than risk trying to find it before you and authorities roll up to retrieve it.
@@DiogenesOfCa They can on the other hand knock on the door and ask. Sure the thief could just say no but they likely have a lot of stolen items without AirTags too so they might just give up the item and claim that they "found" it rather than risk the cops putting their place on their watch list.
best place is to put it in the tire. just deflate the tire, put the tag in with a piece of double-sided tape, inflate the tire. only have to deflate the tire to change the battery once in a while.
@@scottgrizBikes do not need their tires balanced, the rotation speeds just aren't high enough. 11g will be unnoticeable at 25mph. And the innertube will hold it in place very firmly no matter the tire type.
The in the seatpost would work if you have a carbon bike. I am thinking of dropping it in the down tube of the bike and when needed have to remove the headset, tilt the bike to obtain it again. It will be inside the bike frame.
Great tips thanks! I use black tape and either tape under my bike seat or under the fork. Your idea is great too and I believe there’s a company that make one like yours with a reflector which is also a great decoy.
James I love your videos. You mentioned 3D Printing!! please teach us an orientation of that, supplies needed and cost estimates. You 3D printed a piece to screw together holding the air tag. Speechless here! You are so smart man!
They need to design something smaller for bicycles. I suppose if your seat isn't too expensive put a slit under the saddle place the AirTag inside and touch it up with some black silicone. Do this with the seat off and directly under the clamp area (safer and harder to spot). As long as it is a generic cushion seat it'll work but if it's a high end leather or super thin racing saddle you'd be outta luck. Normally you never leave your expensive bikes alone, at least I don't .
Apple should give the owner of the AirTag an option feature in the Settings allowing them to turn on/off the beeper on the AirTag. Also, if I owned a really expensive bike I’d likely install TWO AirTags on it!
@@John64125they should make a feature where each time the owner is around they have to take a photo of where they placed it to confirm, for ex. If installed on a bike A photo with the AirTag on the bike is required to activate it and every 48-72 hours the owner should have to take a verification photo
You used the wrong screws. You want to use the Allen screws that have the security bump. They require removal only with the Allen wrench that has a small dimple on the head. Regular Allen cannot grip!
It is still possible to locate AirTag using precise finding (available on iPhone11 and later). Actually it is possible to create an AirTag clone tracker which will be not detectable by phones automatically (iPhone will not notify you). So it there are significant demand it is possible to start manufacturing.
I have removed the speaker as per the instructions, but if I make the AirTag chime I can still hear it albeit very faintly. I've tested this several times. Maybe something inside still acts as a (poor) speaker even when the real one is removed?
Yes. Just remove the thin copper wire that causes the sound. There are TH-cam videos for that. I just did it to mine. No sound and location still works.
I have one under my water bottle which seems too obvious. I think a 2nd one - with speaker deactivated - wrapped into the handlebar tape would be solid. Has anyone ever placed on inside a tire?
your video just have one problem you should not mount your airtag outside your bike but need to be inside your bike,"INSIDE" your bicycle frame i drilled very tiny tiny hole so signal is not a problem , FORK, seat post , inside your bicycle saddle , inside handle bar remember "INSIDE" just make sure it stay hidden ,I manage to put 4 apple airtag and 2 momax Pintag "INSIDE MY BIKE " total six air tag I gotta say im very impress with the result it help track my bike within 3 hours after it got stolen last week and call police to help recover my bike within 5 hours it got stolen , and catch the thief
Has anyone considered the ability to disassemble a certain kind of pedal, place the airtag or whatever and reassemble it ? I would think pedals are kind of universal so just finding a certain brand that has enough of a gap somewhere,
The bttom of the suspension seat post I thought was a really great idea as well, but while some people say on there Ebike it works without signal interference, the TH-camr uploader said that would not work, so at this very moment, I happen to be noticing a carbon fiber frame Ebike, I'll provide the link, (just thinking out loud for some who think this type of lighter frame might not block the bluetooth signal due to it's thinner material? ) no idea if that makes any sense, because while the frames are lighter, maybe that offers no advantage when it comes to signal blocking, anyway, very unqiue bike in the under 1,000 range because of the 20AMP battery, th-cam.com/video/r8JCXfpje-s/w-d-xo.html
cool, here is another dumb idea, I just thought about, (under one of the front or backtire fenders?) if the back of the airtag can't have crazy glue or superglue applied directly to it, maybe it could go inside of some type of other tiny plastic or metal container that could have glue applied to its surface, (you know like those cheap magnetic key containers, people slide under the car (especiall if you upgrade to metal fenders) whathever the best approach would be the important thing to worry about is how well it's hidden probably at the middle of the fender in something black so it's maybe camouglaged by the all black fender, But if metal fenders interfere with any tracking signal than switch it to a plastic fender. For maximum adhesiion I would apply several layers of glue on a table, or if your really handy, try and solder or hotglue it to the plastic fender. Obviously you'de want to test the adhesion and be prepared to lose the airtag in the street or offroad, as your going through the ''testing stage'' of this idea. I've heard of people even installing two or three of them on the same bike.
Also don't foget even if Iphone's were 75% of the smartphone market (which the are not!) you still have a 25% chance of zero recovery unless you employ Android tracking devices as well, I'm wondering if the seat post blocking is greater or lesser with Non Apple Airtag trackers as well ??
very good video clear and concise . however if and when you do locate your bike ,you had better take some muscle with you in case a confrontation erupts or the police , but it's highly unlikely that the police will show up ,so you are on your own .
So the sound is from the coil and the magnet is needed to amplify it. The gold coil which the magnet would sit in, there is 2 ends of the coil. I snipped 1 end.
@@psps6623 this did not work for one of our clients who was attempting to retrieve their stolen motorcycle, the police would not accept the location of knowing where the bike was as proof.
I agree with others; a little overboard. There are only so many locations an airtag can be hidden on a bicycle. Disabling the chime won't get you much more time. Once I knew there was an airtag it would probably take me only a few minutes to find it. Overkill might be a better option. Locating and removing five airtags might take the better part of half an hour.
So your solution is just to disable the speaker? Been done, AirTags can still be located down to around 30cm, good enough to find it on a bike and probably in a car too. Use Atuvos tags instead, licensed by Apple to use the same Find My network but half the price and don’t have the same precision locating capability, only good down to a couple of meters, still good enough to locate an object as big as a bike but not good enough to find the tag itself if the speaker is disabled. Personally I think it’s ridiculous that anyone should have to go to these lengths to use a tracker that has been purposefully designed to tell people it’s tracking them, it’s nonsensical and removes the most basic functionality of the technology, but that’s the world we live in.
The chime makes it easier to find, but it isn’t hard to find an AirTag without a chime on a bike. It’s not like there are that many places to hide it. You’re only real option is to react quickly if your bike is stolen. If you wait until the thief’s iPhone notifies them an AirTag is moving with them, you will be too late. An AirTag with or without a chime is not that hard to find on a bike.
Have a bicycle bell that hides the AirTag inside.Its made to conceal the AirTag i have also removed the speaker.Highly doubt thief will ever find it.Also have AirTag hidden in my Ortlieb panniers.I have 13 airtags so its safe to say I’m an AirTag fan LOL.Have saved me so much wasted time and frustration looking for stuff.Twice I’ve lost some very important job related keys found them hanging on mop bucket handle where they had fallen off my belt then found them dangling from a drawer pull where they had caught on it after i had leaned across counter.
I tried inside the stem but I failed to make contact with a phone. Down the seat tube works if the post is big enough, 27.2 won't work. Hiden isnide the steer tube would work but it was too small to fit down the tube and inside the headset also prevented contact.
If I had stolen an expensive bike and got such a notification the seat would be the first thing to fly off. Especially if there is some obviously 3D printed attachment to it
Don't hack it? I belive its not that expensive of a mistake 25 pounds. I have done this for my family and friends like 8 maybe didn't break a single plastic prong. Works amazingly
No, no! This is the only way to find a bike with playing the sound when needed. In Oulu Finland we have a group which tracks stolen bikes. They have about 2000 bikes record in a year getting them back! Favorite thing is to locate bikes and play sound in front of some locked door and call cops. The group works with a lot of people in Facebook and social media. If someone sees something, volunteers sends a message to the group with photos etc. The group already know all the places where to look at when the bike theft happens. Amazing group indeed.
Thanks for video. How far away my cell phone will be able to track this air tag? I am planning to to fly abroad with transfer flights. Do not want to lose my bike in between flites!
Solution is to always use one for iOS and one for Android (for example the new Moto tag or similar). Chances is that the thief will remove the first one thinking he is therefore safe, without releasing there is a second tracker (people tend to have one phone with them)
MucOff now makes one that fits on the end of a valve stem inside a tubeless tire. I wonder if your seat tube holder would work inside a carbon fiber frame?
Maybe there is a better tracker to use other than the airtag then. It would be a better bet because those trackers have to be found physically in most cases.
Airtags are inappropriate devices for anti-theft purposes, as they will still report their presence to any iPhone user even if you disable the speaker. Tile trackers are much better in this respect, as they have a specific anti-theft mode where this behavior is suppressed.
Ideally Apple could do with a system that uses other Apple products to locate, however without potentially letting others know where it is, only the owner. If the owner has the option to control if all have the option to see or only themselves this would provide more notice for stollen products to be found. A thief will absolutely expect some kind of device & would naturally check the bike, getting rid of anything strait away.
Yeah: for once Some is trying to do the right thing: to balance the needs of the owner of the object the Airtag is attached to with the owner of the Airtag. It's fine when it's the same owner; it's creepy as soon as you attach it to something belonging to someone else.
Interesting. Samsung Smarttag 2 works perfectly fine inside bicycle parts. I tested it inside a carbon seatpost, a steel frame headtube, and aluminum steam. In all of the places mentioned, everything was okay. Tag was able to connect with other devices without any problems. Do you test AirTag inside a bike?
Great video and great content, but if I were a thief, I would look for anything that look's out of place and that 3D container under the seat, would not fool every thief who is thinking outside the box,
I bought a new ebike last Sunday and of course, inspired by this video installed an AirTag with an Amazon under the seat holder. 3 days after purchasing the bike, it was stolen! Thanks to this very video though, because I did install the modified AirTag I was able to track down my bike again, contacted emergency services and the police apprehended the thief. Now I have my bike back! Thanks so much!
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@@giftedone831 I wish it was! It was a very stressful 18 hour period between theft and recovery, but thankfully was successful. I also tore the AirTag apart and removed the speaker before installing as an extra layer of security so it wouldn't beep at any would-be thief--definitely would recommend doing this too.
put two air tags, one quite easy to find, like in the saddle bag and another one in a more hidden location with the speaker hacked. once the thief find and ditch the first one, even if it still get a notification, it will probably thinks it is still referring to the old one
i manage to put six tag inside my bike it help track my bike within 3 hours after it got stolen last week and call police to help recover my bike within 5 hours it got stolen , and catch the thief
@kennethcampingdiary1976 6? Where did you manage to hide 6 trackers?
@@scottgriz 1. inside my frame where seat post are 2.inside my seat post need make your air tag smaller first 3. Inside saddle need to remove the screw and put it inside the saddle , 4. Two inside the fork, 6. inside handle bar ( require to drill a big hole and use sand paper or cutter to reduce your airtag size) , one inside my cargo mount
@@scottgriz if u have facebook or instagram i can send u some pic of how i did it
@@kennethcampingdiary1976 Wow, that would drive a thief batty. Gives you plenty of time to hunt them down.
the tutorial on removing the speaker was awesome. Definitely doing that.
But they will still receive the notification that the AirTag is following them right? Even without the sound
Yeah but will be unable to locate it so easily without the speaker. Not a perfect solution but the best we got for cheap theft tracking.
I have located in the frame and works just fine!!👌
I use the AirTag and will kill the speaker! Your point of it following is well taken, but I don’t see this as a long term solution, you will have to recover the bike ASAP, and hopefully the criminal will be lax. These guys are opportunistic and they may not spend enough time to seek it.
Use 2 AirTags per bike. If they find one they probably won’t think there is a second
@@bikepackingadventure7913they’ll find one, toss it, and think they’re in the clear until a minute later when their iPhone notifies them that an AirTag is moving with them. You could put 1000 AirTags. Their iPhone will keep notifying them an AirTag is moving with them until they find them all.
Great video, thanks for showing where the tabs are! One thing to note: if you're in an area where seats get stolen, or if you have a particularly nice saddle, you might want to choose a different location. Lezyne makes a bottle cage with a super inconspicuous space for an airtag, there is also a company which makes one to fit inside your wheel if you're running tubeless. Might be giving too much cred to the intelligence of thieves, but something to think about. I think probably using one of those headset caps is the best solution, doesn't look at all out of place and not a component that a thief is likely to change or remove.
''headset cap '' what is that? when I hear that expression, I'm thinking it 's something the riders wears over there heads or ears , (not something attatched to the Ebike?)
Go to 3:50. He calls it a "headset" Same thing as the cap..
Then he can track the seat thief
I thought that i am a genius for punting my Samsung smart tag inside my tubless tyre... funny me 😂
it's not very common to see people with a fat tire E Bike that weighs over say 50 lbs, with tubeless tyres, in fact there are not any tires
that are tubeless with the exception of maybe 1 brand that offers a tubeless tire for heavier traditonal Ebikes that have 20X4 or 24X4 or 26X4 tires,
(at least that's what I've discovered so far) So out of curiosity, what is the exact size of the tires that your referring to you put your airtag in?
and what is the approximate weight of the Ebike, (maybe I'm missing out ?)
Great video! I have another solution to mounting. Just get Black Gorilla tape. It looks like it belongs on dark surfaces. It is waterproof and way durable. My bike has lots of tape/decals to protect electronics so it looks like it belongs. I ran one over a year on the bottom bracket of my Specialized Levo. Under the seat would make it functionally invisible, and a great idea!
Would gorilla tape be better than duct tape or the same?
I don’t have a bike, i don’t have an airtag and i’m not planning tu buy anything soon. Did i watched every second of this video? Hell yeah. 😂
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Thanks for the tutorial! The operation appears to be a success. I've asked my husband to take my now mute airtag to work with him tomorrow so I can double check that it is truly tracking after getting in its innards.
I don't have access to a 3D printer so I found a water bottle carrier that has a discreet space that I can place it and have it still sitting flush against the frame (there are some that fit under it but they look like they be too easily spotted by someone who knows what to look for.) My new e-bike is ordered and the bike shop is waiting for it so they can assemble it. I'll take the bottle holder over to their shop and they can install it when they're getting my bike ready. The only thing that concerns me is that the bottle holder comes with anti-theft screws for installation and that might offer a hint to have a closer look.
I sanded an AirTag down to make it a bit smaller, wrapped it in duct tape and jammed it up the steerer tube. It’s black tape so you’d need a torch and to remove the wheel to find it.
You’re hiding it in what is essentialy a Farraday cage which blocks radio signals. Good luck with that…
@@DigiLab360 Well I've used it for over a year and it works fine in my steel frame...
How you replace the battery’s?
@@dennis12345 take it out and replace them.
Also. Use torx screws instead of the standard allen key heads and cinch them down with blue loctite. This makes it much more difficult for them to remove the tag once they have found it. It won't prevent tampering entirely, but it will likely buy you an hour or so while they try to figure out a way to get the tag off.
Thanks for the video. But using anti theft screws would be more beneficial. To be honest, thief will find the AirTag under the seat immediately. I’d recommend also getting a underseat tool bag, that’d perfectly hide the tag. They’re really cheap.
A red reflector on that little holder might have helped disguise it.
Absolutely the most obvious place to put a tracker.Any thief will remove it in seconds.
The irony is that their first idea was the most sneaky, although it didn't work. So then they went to the worst idea of the options they showed earlier lmao
What I did was superglue mine to the metalic part of the seat. It still works, I can replace the battery, and it takes 1000 pounds of force to remove it
Use security screws.
@@IKER1000sYTgreat idea
@@IKER1000sYT if you can remove the battery to replace it, so can a &*^%$#@ thief, though :-(
Should we guess that AirTag2 will be harder to open and the speaker soldered in place?
They'll probably add a diagnostic function where the air tag will deactivate itself if it detects its speaker is no longer attached.
@@psps6623 there will be ways to mute it
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@@psps6623 once people open them up, we will be able to see which things are where and be able to plan accordingly to remove or damage the speaker, so it doesn't make sound.
Worst case scenario you'll need a soldering iron to desolder.
Even if you destroy the speaker, the perpetrator's iPhone will still get a message right? so he could pretty much presume that the bike was tagged and he could search for it on it, and remove it, am I correct or not?
Better to have the thief search for it.
I don't think that it would show that anyone is using your signal because it wouldn't be connected to their Wi-Fi.
@@lawrencegrace9302it does. It’s another anti-stocking feature. The person gets a notification on their phone and they can click it and make it ring. The thief will still get the message, the speaker has just been removed. That’s entirely how AirTags work to begin with, they connect to other device’s Bluetooth and the other persons phone automatically uses its own data and location information to update Apple servers on where it saw the AirTag.
Yes, doing this just slows the process down for them. You’d still need to react quickly. Or if they can’t find it quickly they might decide just to ditch the bike and move on to avoid getting caught.
I didn't even know air tags existed. This is most helpful. In March 2024 I'll buy you a coffee sir. Thank you.
It's March 2024
It's April 2024, did he get his coffee yet?
@@silentepsilon888 No, my father is gravely ill, but I will remember to. Thank you for reminding me.
There two types of bike thiefs.
1) The full professionals who steal in large quantities and have some sort of business model behind it all. There is little to no chance of fighting them of, but they are also the much rarer type.
2) The more common thief is looking for a quick buck, wants to sell parts, or ride the bike themselves. They are much more likely to be deterred by good theft protection, registered frames and gps tracking.
You really need to make it harder to remove the tag . E.g. use security bolts or put some glue on them, else this is too easy for the thief. Also, in this location they could easily break them away, I'd make a holder that can go somewhere it's hard to apply force. Ah yes, and get rid of the quick release levers if you want to keep your wheels and saddle.
I taped mine under one of the bike fenders with some gorilla tape and removed the speaker. Works perfectly :)
Ooh I'm borrowing that idea - thx!
Presumably with a carbon frame you could insert it in the down tube under the seat post.
Not sure about that: if the carbon fibres touch one another they will form a Faraday cage. Not as conductive as metal but could be enough to swallow most of your signal
I’m thinking even if thief gets notification and hour later. They would probably ditch the bike than risk trying to find it before you and authorities roll up to retrieve it.
Cops are not entering a dwelling to retrieve a stolen bike; they need a warrant to even search a hobo tent.
@@DiogenesOfCa They can on the other hand knock on the door and ask. Sure the thief could just say no but they likely have a lot of stolen items without AirTags too so they might just give up the item and claim that they "found" it rather than risk the cops putting their place on their watch list.
If your thief as a stupid amateur and drug addict - maybe your right.
best place is to put it in the tire. just deflate the tire, put the tag in with a piece of double-sided tape, inflate the tire. only have to deflate the tire to change the battery once in a while.
Would this impede ride quality in any way, you think? I'm wondering if the airtag would produce any perceivable bump while riding.
@@bryanflo4500 You would need to counter balance it. But I highly doubt it would stay in place on a mountain bike.
@@scottgrizBikes do not need their tires balanced, the rotation speeds just aren't high enough. 11g will be unnoticeable at 25mph. And the innertube will hold it in place very firmly no matter the tire type.
shhhhh! That's a secret Theo! lol
Well.
I will definitely *not* be doing this.
That won't be where I put mine, for sure. 😶
The in the seatpost would work if you have a carbon bike. I am thinking of dropping it in the down tube of the bike and when needed have to remove the headset, tilt the bike to obtain it again. It will be inside the bike frame.
Great tips thanks! I use black tape and either tape under my bike seat or under the fork. Your idea is great too and I believe there’s a company that make one like yours with a reflector which is also a great decoy.
James I love your videos. You mentioned 3D Printing!! please teach us an orientation of that, supplies needed and cost estimates. You 3D printed a piece to screw together holding the air tag. Speechless here! You are so smart man!
Noticed that your internal mount you 3d printed didn't work with your aluminium frame. I'm assuming if you have a carbon frame it would be alright?
Thought of that too. I think soo
Consider using a Tile. It has somewhat less coverage, but does not notify the thief.
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poor tracking lost my keys and had a awful experience finding it never again
Apple should listen to their customers and simply stop the alerts being sent to the thief. The Airtag is not appropriate for this purpose.
Its so predators can’t stick airtags under peoples cars and track down the woman/ child later.
Great idea - just a thought - might be helpful to use black instead of silver screws.
They need to design something smaller for bicycles. I suppose if your seat isn't too expensive put a slit under the saddle place the AirTag inside and touch it up with some black silicone. Do this with the seat off and directly under the clamp area (safer and harder to spot). As long as it is a generic cushion seat it'll work but if it's a high end leather or super thin racing saddle you'd be outta luck. Normally you never leave your expensive bikes alone, at least I don't .
I would put it in The Handlebar post or down in the seat post where it would drop to the bottom.
@@lawrencegrace9302 too much interference, might not get a strong signal.
Don't they use something to block tracker signal when stealing more expensive things like cars and bicycles?
@@lawrencegrace9302 did you even watch the video?
Do you have the file for the air tag car you made with 3 d printer how to make one ?
Apple should give the owner of the AirTag an option feature in the Settings allowing them to turn on/off the beeper on the AirTag. Also, if I owned a really expensive bike I’d likely install TWO AirTags on it!
I think the issue is that undesirables could attach them to someone and stalk them. It’s a privacy issue!
@@John64125they should make a feature where each time the owner is around they have to take a photo of where they placed it to confirm, for ex. If installed on a bike A photo with the AirTag on the bike is required to activate it and every 48-72 hours the owner should have to take a verification photo
You used the wrong screws. You want to use the Allen screws that have the security bump. They require removal only with the Allen wrench that has a small dimple on the head. Regular Allen cannot grip!
It is still possible to locate AirTag using precise finding (available on iPhone11 and later).
Actually it is possible to create an AirTag clone tracker which will be not detectable by phones automatically (iPhone will not notify you).
So it there are significant demand it is possible to start manufacturing.
Would carbon fiber block the signal? You said aluminum does
On e-bike put inside locked battery compartment.
Get a bell with airtag compartment for a few pounds, it is a real bell, but has your airtag (or motorola tag) hidden inside it.
I have removed the speaker as per the instructions, but if I make the AirTag chime I can still hear it albeit very faintly. I've tested this several times. Maybe something inside still acts as a (poor) speaker even when the real one is removed?
Yes. Just remove the thin copper wire that causes the sound. There are TH-cam videos for that. I just did it to mine. No sound and location still works.
Nice video and presentation.
Shall we say muted instead of deactivated?
Could you share the 3D file you made for the print? I'd love to modify it to fit other trackers for Android users like myself
I have one under my water bottle which seems too obvious. I think a 2nd one - with speaker deactivated - wrapped into the handlebar tape would be solid.
Has anyone ever placed on inside a tire?
your video just have one problem you should not mount your airtag outside your bike but need to be inside your bike,"INSIDE" your bicycle frame i drilled very tiny tiny hole so signal is not a problem , FORK, seat post , inside your bicycle saddle , inside handle bar remember "INSIDE" just make sure it stay hidden ,I manage to put 4 apple airtag and 2 momax Pintag "INSIDE MY BIKE " total six air tag I gotta say im very impress with the result
it help track my bike within 3 hours after it got stolen last week and call police to help recover my bike within 5 hours it got stolen , and catch the thief
Has anyone considered the ability to disassemble a certain kind of pedal, place the airtag or whatever and reassemble it ? I would think pedals are kind of universal
so just finding a certain brand that has enough of a gap somewhere,
A bike pedal with an airtag holder inside would be a genius idea!
The bttom of the suspension seat post I thought was a really great idea as well, but while some people say on there Ebike it works without signal interference, the TH-camr uploader said that would not work, so at this very moment, I happen to be noticing a carbon fiber frame Ebike, I'll provide the link, (just thinking out loud for some who think this type of lighter frame might not block the bluetooth signal due to it's thinner material? ) no idea if that makes any sense, because while the frames are lighter, maybe that offers no advantage when it comes to signal blocking, anyway, very unqiue bike in the under 1,000 range because of the 20AMP battery, th-cam.com/video/r8JCXfpje-s/w-d-xo.html
@@flolou8496 I got a carbon frame, I will try to stick it in there and report back when I get my AirTag in the mail
cool, here is another dumb idea, I just thought about, (under one of the front or backtire fenders?) if the back of the airtag can't have crazy glue or superglue applied directly to it, maybe it could go inside of some type of other tiny plastic or metal container that could have glue applied to its surface, (you know like those cheap magnetic key containers, people slide under the car (especiall if you upgrade to metal fenders) whathever the best approach would be the important thing to worry about is how well it's hidden probably at the middle of the fender in something black so it's maybe camouglaged by the all black fender, But if metal fenders interfere with any tracking signal than switch it to a plastic fender. For maximum adhesiion I would apply several layers of glue on a table, or if your really handy, try and solder or hotglue it to the plastic fender. Obviously you'de want to test the adhesion and be prepared to lose the airtag in the street or offroad, as your going through the ''testing stage'' of this idea. I've heard of people even installing two or three of them on the same bike.
Also don't foget even if Iphone's were 75% of the smartphone market (which the are not!) you still have a 25% chance of zero recovery unless you employ Android tracking devices as well, I'm wondering if the seat post blocking is greater or lesser with Non Apple Airtag trackers as well ??
Would a carbon seat post help with the bluetooth signal if you put it in the downtube?
Unfortunately, no. CF also blocks signals.
very good video clear and concise . however if and when you do locate your bike ,you had better take some muscle with you in case a confrontation erupts or the police , but it's highly unlikely that the police will show up ,so you are on your own .
So the sound is from the coil and the magnet is needed to amplify it. The gold coil which the magnet would sit in, there is 2 ends of the coil. I snipped 1 end.
u can even put inside your reflector around the wheel spokes
He'll still see the notification and will just search the bike thoroughly
Doesn’t the sound help to prove that it’s yours when getting the police involved though, in that you can trigger it to turn on from your app?
The proof would be you showing the location appearing on your phone and then pointing out exactly where the tracker is located on the bike.
@@psps6623 this did not work for one of our clients who was attempting to retrieve their stolen motorcycle, the police would not accept the location of knowing where the bike was as proof.
Take a picture of your serial number before it is stolen.
could you share the cad file for the airtag mount on the seat?
Bonjour
Pouvez vous me donner le lien du modèle Qui ce range dans le tube du cadre du vélo en .slt?
Merci d’avance…
Where can i order this special 3d printed holder??!!!
Hey man! Thank you for this video! This is not something everyone knows about!
Even if you deactivate the speaker once thief gets notification how difficult is to find the Air tag on a bike. in less than one minute
I agree with others; a little overboard. There are only so many locations an airtag can be hidden on a bicycle. Disabling the chime won't get you much more time. Once I knew there was an airtag it would probably take me only a few minutes to find it. Overkill might be a better option. Locating and removing five airtags might take the better part of half an hour.
Inside the frame would work if you had a carbon bike no?
@4:23 can you share 3d print file for this tag holder? Great job!!
Do you have use Bluetooth ?
So your solution is just to disable the speaker? Been done, AirTags can still be located down to around 30cm, good enough to find it on a bike and probably in a car too. Use Atuvos tags instead, licensed by Apple to use the same Find My network but half the price and don’t have the same precision locating capability, only good down to a couple of meters, still good enough to locate an object as big as a bike but not good enough to find the tag itself if the speaker is disabled.
Personally I think it’s ridiculous that anyone should have to go to these lengths to use a tracker that has been purposefully designed to tell people it’s tracking them, it’s nonsensical and removes the most basic functionality of the technology, but that’s the world we live in.
What to do if the lid wouldnt be twisted??
For a carbon frame there's no problem right?
The chime makes it easier to find, but it isn’t hard to find an AirTag without a chime on a bike. It’s not like there are that many places to hide it.
You’re only real option is to react quickly if your bike is stolen. If you wait until the thief’s iPhone notifies them an AirTag is moving with them, you will be too late. An AirTag with or without a chime is not that hard to find on a bike.
Hide it in the basement.........Every bicycle has a basement (@.@)
Have a bicycle bell that hides the AirTag inside.Its made to conceal the AirTag i have also removed the speaker.Highly doubt thief will ever find it.Also have AirTag hidden in my Ortlieb panniers.I have 13 airtags so its safe to say I’m an AirTag fan LOL.Have saved me so much wasted time and frustration looking for stuff.Twice I’ve lost some very important job related keys found them hanging on mop bucket handle where they had fallen off my belt then found them dangling from a drawer pull where they had caught on it after i had leaned across counter.
what kind/brand/style of bell?
Where to buy one
I tried inside the stem but I failed to make contact with a phone. Down the seat tube works if the post is big enough, 27.2 won't work. Hiden isnide the steer tube would work but it was too small to fit down the tube and inside the headset also prevented contact.
Where do I find the case ?
If I had stolen an expensive bike and got such a notification the seat would be the first thing to fly off. Especially if there is some obviously 3D printed attachment to it
it would have made so much more sense to put a red reflector on the cover to make the whole air tag holder look like a rear light reflector.
Does carbon fiber also block the signal? My bike is made of CF and I ma thinking of dropping the airtag inside the bar or handle
Carbon fiber will not block the signal since it is not conducting. Go for it.
Thank you! I was able to remove the speaker successfully.
Great video I’m gonna do this to my bike AirTag.
don’t hack it. very expensive mistake when you break the plastic prongs, like i did, no matter how careful you are.
Don't hack it? I belive its not that expensive of a mistake 25 pounds. I have done this for my family and friends like 8 maybe didn't break a single plastic prong. Works amazingly
@@lisapilios6880lmao it’s like $30?
I broke one of the prongs does that make it not work anymore?
Apple really needs to allow the user to defeat the speaker without the need for surgery to remove the speaker.
That would be called the "government and military" version 😅
but then criminals can use it to stalk someone
You're calling that step surgery? It's quicker than... inflating a tire.
@@jackl7778 If so, then couldn't criminals just remove the speaker and then use the tag to stalk?
How about inside a cheap bell housing on the handlebars?
That would be perfect, they sell foe bells for AirTags on amazon, link in description
Great video, thanks for sharing.
Would a carbon fiber frame block the signal?
Nope. Non-metallic carbon fibre.
Thanks SO much very helpful!
No, no! This is the only way to find a bike with playing the sound when needed. In Oulu Finland we have a group which tracks stolen bikes. They have about 2000 bikes record in a year getting them back! Favorite thing is to locate bikes and play sound in front of some locked door and call cops. The group works with a lot of people in Facebook and social media. If someone sees something, volunteers sends a message to the group with photos etc. The group already know all the places where to look at when the bike theft happens. Amazing group indeed.
So you sell the 3 d print holders
No
Thanks for video. How far away my cell phone will be able to track this air tag? I am planning to to fly abroad with transfer flights. Do not want to lose my bike in between flites!
Bluetooth range is maybe 30 feet. But you can locate your airtag from anywhere in world, as long as there are people with iphones near.
If there is an iPhone within range it’ll update and send the info to your phone
Fork tube is best. People figured this all out years ago.
Why isn't there a simple "turn off speaker" feature on the IPhone for this
Solution is to always use one for iOS and one for Android (for example the new Moto tag or similar). Chances is that the thief will remove the first one thinking he is therefore safe, without releasing there is a second tracker (people tend to have one phone with them)
Remove the speaker does not stop them getting the alert message
Where might I be able to buy one of those?
Link in the description for options
easy to find and disable. Not a good place. Show better placement.. Inside tire? Inside handlebar ?
MucOff now makes one that fits on the end of a valve stem inside a tubeless tire. I wonder if your seat tube holder would work inside a carbon fiber frame?
Just DO NOT BUY it, period.
@@Cliff01AustinSounds like something a bike thief would say.
When it comes to tires, there's a lot hanging in the balance. You don't want to put an air tag there
Umm so now all theirs just remove the seat right?
The notification to the thief ruins the usefulness of this tag. He will simply move away from populated areas and eventually find the tag.
Maybe there is a better tracker to use other than the airtag then. It would be a better bet because those trackers have to be found physically in most cases.
Amazing video!
My Wired freedom just got stolen wish i had any tracking on it
Airtags are inappropriate devices for anti-theft purposes, as they will still report their presence to any iPhone user even if you disable the speaker. Tile trackers are much better in this respect, as they have a specific anti-theft mode where this behavior is suppressed.
Ideally Apple could do with a system that uses other Apple products to locate, however without potentially letting others know where it is, only the owner. If the owner has the option to control if all have the option to see or only themselves this would provide more notice for stollen products to be found.
A thief will absolutely expect some kind of device & would naturally check the bike, getting rid of anything strait away.
The problem is that such a device could be used for stalking which is why you get notice of the AirTag moving with you currently.
Yeah: for once Some is trying to do the right thing: to balance the needs of the owner of the object the Airtag is attached to with the owner of the Airtag. It's fine when it's the same owner; it's creepy as soon as you attach it to something belonging to someone else.
They make it in bike reflectors
Would a pair of old AirPods do the same without notifying the thief?
Gotta charge it before every few rides but still 🤔🤔🤔
Muc-Off actually makes a tubeless presta valve with an AirTag holder that mounts it inside your tire. I use it and nobody will ever find my AirTag
Since you 3d printer the part, you should be sharing the STL...
Will the thief still be able to get a message after one hour if the speaker is removed?
Yes
You could use a carbon sest post.
A Benotto. Way out there.
I could do it thanks to you.
Interesting. Samsung Smarttag 2 works perfectly fine inside bicycle parts. I tested it inside a carbon seatpost, a steel frame headtube, and aluminum steam. In all of the places mentioned, everything was okay. Tag was able to connect with other devices without any problems. Do you test AirTag inside a bike?
Great video and great content, but if I were a thief, I would look for anything that look's out of place and that 3D container under the seat, would not fool every thief
who is thinking outside the box,
People will find this immediately
Price
The AirTag presence should have the ability to only being identified by the owner’s phone!
The whole point is that people have been using AirTags to stalk others, so no.