Great review! I LOVE Acebeam! I have about 15 of their lights. This is nice looking for sure.....And the sft40 is a big plus. I can't wait to get this. Thank you, brother 😉
It's our pleasure to watch your work. That L16 definitely is better than the Pokelit which was one of the lights that probably put you off doing reviews lol. Stick with your discernment.
Also, when these manufacturers measure the turbo output, they base it on the coldest CCT version of the light. So the 5000K here isn't going to be as bright. It would certainly be nice if they would give ratings for each CCT, but they don't. Higher lumens on the box means better sales, and they know it.
This is why I love Acebeam so much. Their drivers are top notch across their entire lineup of lights. I'd argue from top to bottom on every light a brand offers, Acebeam is the best at giving you the most efficient driver powering any offering they have. Doesn't matter if it's the X75, K75, W35, E75, L19.2, L35.2, M1, and now the L16.2. You know you're getting the best performing driver you can buy powering these particular emitters when you get an Acebeam light. It's just icing on the cake that Acebeam gives this light the same UI from the L35/L19, arguably the best dual-switch UI on the market. I love the L16.2...
Except for their lights that have shitty drivers. Like the rider Rx, pokelit, tac aa. Their dual fuel 14500/Nimh lights have typical poor regulation for 14500. Also a poor UI on those lights with mode memory and forward clicky switches. Especially annoying is the way they decide to label lights with mode memory and no turbo shortcut as tactical lights, like the T35, tac aa, and also the horrible UI on the p16. I like several acebeam products but they also have some huge flaws and inconsistency on certain models.
Thanks for the great review. I heard that if you start with tail switch but turn off by side switch, the tail switch won't work the next time you try to turn on. Did they fix this bug?
Thoughts on the L16 versus the weltool t12? Specifically as it would relate to using the lights as tactical lights as they are marketed? I know you don't really use or carry tactical lights but im curious how they compare to you?
Both lights are excellent. I would lean L16 V2 for beam quality and tint. I would lean T12 for flat runtime and passive cooling. One last thing, the T12’s three UIs are very “tactical.” I have no need for tac gear, so I personally lean L16 V2.
@@cheule May I know which has bigger beam hotspot between the two planning to buy t12 5000k but then got confuse wanting to buy this instead... thank you
Great review. I have the TN12 Pro. But recently, i've been interested in the Acebeam L16 V2, Nitecore MH12 Pro and MH25 Pro for throwers. Do you by any chance have the nitecores, or are planning to do comparison reviews?
Acebeam quality seems top notch! They keep experimenting with the UI. I'd love to see a super mechanical M2 (e.g. add rotary dial to the M2... like the upcoming Wuben X2Pro, LOOP SK05) 😂
I have not, but I have reviewed several large TIR lights like the L19. I find the beam looks great on large TIR, but it’s never as much light transmission or candela. So for sure power, always go reflector.
Hello, I want to buy a flashlight to scan the area for security before sleeping in tent camps and caravan activities. To protect from wild animals, malicious and drunk people. I decided on the Konvoy L7 SBT90.2 flashlight but I wanted to consult you before buying it. Do you think I should buy it or can you recommend me another brand model that is very successful with my long range? In addition, I have never seen a review on your channel, everyone suggested me to buy a ledlenser mt14 for use in camps and daily life. I am a family of 4. I have 2 daughters and 1 wife. I want to buy 1 flashlight for everyone including myself. I want it to be in our bags and pockets except for my long range. Do you think I should buy a ledlenser mt14 or do you recommend another flashlight instead? Or do you think I should buy an edc flashlight for daily life?
The Convoy L7 SBT90.2 is a heck of a light. It will put out a ton of light and run very hot on turbo modes. In general use, I like SFT40 based flashlights more than SBT90.2. The SBT90.2 is a brighter emitter, but it consumes battery much faster and generates a lot of heat. A Convoy M21B with SFT40 is about $28 and what is recommend.
I still like using the Nitecore Mh25 Pro. The throw is amazing. I do love a warm light for my edc but prefer a cool light when it's a thrower as it seems brighter and more clear. Just my opinion 🤷
Good question, I’ll take it outside and compare. But right away I’m going to guess the tint and CCT is going to be better on the L16 V2, and the throw better in the Javelot.
@@cheule Yeah throw is impressive on (the Javelot) but the tint is rather ugly. But for spotting coyotes at a few hundred yards, it's a great searchlight that fits in my pocket! 😀
That understandable. However as of late I’ve found I prefer 5000k so much more than 6500k that I’ll take the perhaps 8-10% loss of lumens. In this particular case, the fact the emitter is 4500 k on lower levels is super great!
It’s so big though. I love my Nightcore MT2A Pro because the throw is just crazy for such a skinny little thing but it’s problem as it doesn’t have any moonlight modes or anything. It’s purely tactical. If it had some moonlight mode, that thing would be just amazing for my use case scenario.
I just picked up a weltool T1 Pro. And I feel you on that comment, it’s a really small flashlight with insane throw. But then I compare it against the 21700s, and it pales in comparison.
@@cheule I believe you. I’m still looking for the “perfect” flashlight for walking at night. I want a tactical thrower (just in case a very unlikely scenario happens) but also is easily carried so not too thick or long but also has a moonlight mode and basic output, rather than a blast of lumens. I still haven’t tried the Nitecore EDC33 But I think that one might be a bit too large in thickness for what I really want. Lately I’ve been carrying the. Wuben T4 as well as a smaller flashlight for basic illumination. I also have a new flat Lumintop That has both tactical as well as basic illumination, but for some reason, I just prefer the form factor as far as the thickness and being able to hold comfortably that the MT2A Pro has but it’s only a “blast thrower”. I have lots of flashlights and I just keep switching them out. Eventually, I’ll find the perfect one.🤣
@@StarDarkAshes If an aggressive dog comes across you during your night walks, you can neutralize it by creating temporary blindness. For this, you need a minimum 3000 lumen flashlight. Or if a wild animal comes across you, you can use your flashlight for the same purpose. This is valid not only for wild animals but also for a malicious person or a drunk person. Low lumen means long battery life and is mostly used in emergencies. Examples of situations that require charging or natural disasters such as earthquakes can be given for moonlight mode. I like Nitecore lights but the lights themselves have shortcomings. For example, while the edc 35 is a great light, its battery cannot be changed. If the battery could be changed, it could be an edc that can be used forever and a great camping light. Although it says 500-550 meters, its effective lighting areas are 200-250 meters. I think this is a sufficient rate for a person walking in nature at night, but as I said, Nitecore fails in the class with its battery not being changeable and no sos modes. Is there a competitor? As far as I have observed, there are none. Your opinions are important, so I'd like to see the flashlights you suggest.
Woah that filter is wild. I wonder how it can be used. A 3rd of the lumens and the orange beam makes it really interesting. I dont how it would be used for signaling, id rather use it unfulters for that
I mean, perhaps AceBeam thinks that yellow/orange light penetrates fog better, but that has been disproven. I really am not sure what purpose it serves. But the beam does look super cool as orange. But as I said, huge lumen loss.
Well for starters, the idea that long wavelengths scatter less in fog is based on faulty logic. Rayleigh Scattering is the phenomenon where blue light scatters more in the atmosphere than red light, and explains why our Sky looks blue. However, fog is water droplets millions of times larger than the wavelength of blue or orange light, and Rayleigh scattering doesn’t apply to fog. It’s just bad science that was compounded by old laws. For example, up until the 90s, I believe, in Europe there was a law that mandated that all fog lights were yellow. But since it was based on bad science, the law was repealed.
I have no had a Sofirn C8G in hand, so I’ll only speculate. But the beam and tint on the AceBeam is so good, I’m assuming it’s better. It’s rare to find a beam this properly focused.
I've been looking at reviews about this flashlight, and you're not the only one getting way below the advertised lumens. I do think Acebeam is false advertising this flashlight.
Perhaps, but my equipment is not nearly good enough to call anyone’s bluff. Also throwier lights always underperform on small integrating sphere and lumen tubes.
@cheule Perhaps, but it's not a coincidence many over people who tested the same light, and they're also coming up around the same numbers as you did but with more sophisticated equipment.
@@21700lover Domeless emitters typically have lower outputs, but offer higher intensity beams. This is of course comparing emitters that offer both variants in the same reflectors and everything else.
Damn I would have bought this instead of the L21B in 6500k, hmmmm, ide like to compare the two side by side. Im really liking my armytek c2 pro nichia 4500k sometimes i wish the tint was a littke warmer instead of neutral and that it had a red light when mosquitoes are attacking me picking berries, i kind of want a max version too , i was going to get a zebralight headlamp but i was worried it wouldn't be as tough as the armytek albiet lighter, seen a review with a bunch pf cracked glass bezel
Feel free to say it again, as I say I don’t delete comments. Well, the only time I’ve ever had to was when it was obvious spam … “meet single women in your city”
WB was locked at daylight. And the light is slightly above BBL at lowest levels, but I’m telling you-and I’m very sensitive to green-the light looks neutral to me. Remember that emitters look different on camera than they do to your eye. My buddy Artie and I call it the “Cree Phenomenon”
1) I definitely don’t pick ad content :) 2) Olight makes really high quality lights. The biggest thing they are guilty of is picking green tinted emitters. But the designs and UI and drivers are usually top notch.
@@cheule I’m with ya on the quality and the bad tint. But having seen so much Olight content, and usually days before a release or a sale….always makes me feel like I’m watching an ad. It’s no secret that Olight pumps them out to content creators en masse, I don’t fault it. It’s great marketing. TH-cam in general just feels like an ad anymore. You absolutely have content I really enjoy, and you certainly don’t hold back honesty on the yuck tint. I do feel like almost all Olight content on the tube is an ad though.
@@cheule well sir I have learned a LOT from your channel, and it’s still my go to for all things luminous. I’d have never had the courage to de dome my nichias had it not been for your videos. I meant you no disrespect. 🍻
"I don't use strobe, I don't care." - Cheule, 2024
A man with good taste, I see 👍
Haha, I’m glad my stream of consciousness made you laugh.
Great review as always, enjoy the mix of technical and outside beamshots etc. Man, that place at the end of the road is fancy!!
Love your honest and professional reviews! You are the head of the class- Thanks for educating myself and many others.
My pleasure!
I agree with you sir is delightful watching him explaining with details 👍
Great review! I LOVE Acebeam! I have about 15 of their lights. This is nice looking for sure.....And the sft40 is a big plus. I can't wait to get this. Thank you, brother 😉
Right on!
Great review, so cool to have the warmer tint at the low end of the brightness scale.
Totally agree!
Love the new aerial shot. Cool to see how much the trees light up which can sometimes be hard otherwise.
Fabulous job as always👏, and love your collection 🔦 over your right shoulder.👍🏻☺️
Did you happen to catch my recent Hanko video?
Excellent testing! Thank you for all the great information.
Thank you!
Just started the video and know gonna love it. Was always bummed they discontinued this model before I came around
Right on!
It's our pleasure to watch your work. That L16 definitely is better than the Pokelit which was one of the lights that probably put you off doing reviews lol. Stick with your discernment.
Regarding the the tint and CCT change it has been my experience with the SFT40 5000K I got from Simon as well, very pleased with it.
wow nice flashlight, nice review.thank you.
Also, when these manufacturers measure the turbo output, they base it on the coldest CCT version of the light. So the 5000K here isn't going to be as bright.
It would certainly be nice if they would give ratings for each CCT, but they don't. Higher lumens on the box means better sales, and they know it.
Very good points
Excellent vid production!
Why cant manufacturers put out this quality review of their products?
Take my sub.
I assume because:
1) culture differences (they are usually Chinese)
2) they don’t have the freedom to be 100% honest.
Great video! The CCT shift is really nice. Love the hat collection btw. I have an Akubra Territory in "sand" that I love.
Akubra is the best. I really can bring myself to buy Stetson etc.
This is why I love Acebeam so much. Their drivers are top notch across their entire lineup of lights. I'd argue from top to bottom on every light a brand offers, Acebeam is the best at giving you the most efficient driver powering any offering they have. Doesn't matter if it's the X75, K75, W35, E75, L19.2, L35.2, M1, and now the L16.2. You know you're getting the best performing driver you can buy powering these particular emitters when you get an Acebeam light. It's just icing on the cake that Acebeam gives this light the same UI from the L35/L19, arguably the best dual-switch UI on the market. I love the L16.2...
I totally agree 👍
Except for their lights that have shitty drivers.
Like the rider Rx, pokelit, tac aa.
Their dual fuel 14500/Nimh lights have typical poor regulation for 14500.
Also a poor UI on those lights with mode memory and forward clicky switches.
Especially annoying is the way they decide to label lights with mode memory and no turbo shortcut as tactical lights, like the T35, tac aa, and also the horrible UI on the p16.
I like several acebeam products but they also have some huge flaws and inconsistency on certain models.
These FAKE marketing reviews makes me question Acebeam products
@@brandonmcfarland2951 I've heard it referred to as the Pokeshit
Thanks for the great review. I heard that if you start with tail switch but turn off by side switch, the tail switch won't work the next time you try to turn on. Did they fix this bug?
Ohhh that’s what they’re called. I always wanted to know what that floppydoodle was called. Now I know!
Yes, named after Dr. Flappy’s favorite lab assistant, John Doddle.
I like my sft40 D1 emisar, the beam isn't prefect but anduril is necessary for any light im interested in at this point
Anduril has its place, but I don’t want it on all my lights.
Thoughts on the L16 versus the weltool t12?
Specifically as it would relate to using the lights as tactical lights as they are marketed?
I know you don't really use or carry tactical lights but im curious how they compare to you?
Both lights are excellent. I would lean L16 V2 for beam quality and tint. I would lean T12 for flat runtime and passive cooling.
One last thing, the T12’s three UIs are very “tactical.” I have no need for tac gear, so I personally lean L16 V2.
@@cheule May I know which has bigger beam hotspot between the two planning to buy t12 5000k but then got confuse wanting to buy this instead... thank you
Great review. I have the TN12 Pro. But recently, i've been interested in the Acebeam L16 V2, Nitecore MH12 Pro and MH25 Pro for throwers. Do you by any chance have the nitecores, or are planning to do comparison reviews?
I am going to release a video on the Nitecore TM28 this week, but I have no immediate plans for other Nitecore products.
Acebeam quality seems top notch! They keep experimenting with the UI. I'd love to see a super mechanical M2 (e.g. add rotary dial to the M2... like the upcoming Wuben X2Pro, LOOP SK05) 😂
I’m watching Loop with great interest.
@@cheule I'm also keeping an eye out for the x2pro and the sk05
Why do you favor the loop over the wuben?
Good work! Have you reviewed Sofirn IF22A? It's based on the SFT40 as well and utilizes an interesting TIR lens.
I have not, but I have reviewed several large TIR lights like the L19. I find the beam looks great on large TIR, but it’s never as much light transmission or candela. So for sure power, always go reflector.
Great review. Do you know what the orange filter they offer do for their lights?
I’m not sure! The light went from 2000 lm to 700lm, so 🤷♂️. Looked cool though, a really rich orange.
Hello, I want to buy a flashlight to scan the area for security before sleeping in tent camps and caravan activities. To protect from wild animals, malicious and drunk people. I decided on the Konvoy L7 SBT90.2 flashlight but I wanted to consult you before buying it. Do you think I should buy it or can you recommend me another brand model that is very successful with my long range?
In addition, I have never seen a review on your channel, everyone suggested me to buy a ledlenser mt14 for use in camps and daily life. I am a family of 4. I have 2 daughters and 1 wife. I want to buy 1 flashlight for everyone including myself. I want it to be in our bags and pockets except for my long range. Do you think I should buy a ledlenser mt14 or do you recommend another flashlight instead? Or do you think I should buy an edc flashlight for daily life?
The Convoy L7 SBT90.2 is a heck of a light. It will put out a ton of light and run very hot on turbo modes.
In general use, I like SFT40 based flashlights more than SBT90.2. The SBT90.2 is a brighter emitter, but it consumes battery much faster and generates a lot of heat.
A Convoy M21B with SFT40 is about $28 and what is recommend.
I know this is not the place but are you still a fan of the terminator m1? I'm thinking about getting one.
The M1 is excellent. Recommended.
It's available with sft40 6500K and also 5000K.
You got the one with 5000K, which seems to be a lot nicer CCT!
I totally agree!
I still like using the Nitecore Mh25 Pro. The throw is amazing.
I do love a warm light for my edc but prefer a cool light when it's a thrower as it seems brighter and more clear. Just my opinion 🤷
It’s a good opinion.
How does the SBT90.2 compare to the SFT40?
Great video, I like it!
Thank you very much!
How does this compare to the Olight Javelot?
Good question, I’ll take it outside and compare. But right away I’m going to guess the tint and CCT is going to be better on the L16 V2, and the throw better in the Javelot.
@@cheule Yeah throw is impressive on (the Javelot) but the tint is rather ugly. But for spotting coyotes at a few hundred yards, it's a great searchlight that fits in my pocket! 😀
I would have loved to see a runtime test on a 6500k emitter. For throwers I always go as high CW as I can for max throw.
That understandable. However as of late I’ve found I prefer 5000k so much more than 6500k that I’ll take the perhaps 8-10% loss of lumens. In this particular case, the fact the emitter is 4500 k on lower levels is super great!
How do you like the sft40 compared to the sbt90?
I applaud the sheer magnitude of SBT90.2, but when you look at lumens per watt, the SFT40 is a better emitter in my book.
Awesome video!
Thanks!
It’s so big though. I love my Nightcore MT2A Pro because the throw is just crazy for such a skinny little thing but it’s problem as it doesn’t have any moonlight modes or anything. It’s purely tactical. If it had some moonlight mode, that thing would be just amazing for my use case scenario.
I just picked up a weltool T1 Pro. And I feel you on that comment, it’s a really small flashlight with insane throw. But then I compare it against the 21700s, and it pales in comparison.
@@cheule I believe you. I’m still looking for the “perfect” flashlight for walking at night. I want a tactical thrower (just in case a very unlikely scenario happens) but also is easily carried so not too thick or long but also has a moonlight mode and basic output, rather than a blast of lumens. I still haven’t tried the Nitecore EDC33 But I think that one might be a bit too large in thickness for what I really want. Lately I’ve been carrying the. Wuben T4 as well as a smaller flashlight for basic illumination. I also have a new flat Lumintop That has both tactical as well as basic illumination, but for some reason, I just prefer the form factor as far as the thickness and being able to hold comfortably that the MT2A Pro has but it’s only a “blast thrower”. I have lots of flashlights and I just keep switching them out. Eventually, I’ll find the perfect one.🤣
@@StarDarkAshes If an aggressive dog comes across you during your night walks, you can neutralize it by creating temporary blindness. For this, you need a minimum 3000 lumen flashlight. Or if a wild animal comes across you, you can use your flashlight for the same purpose. This is valid not only for wild animals but also for a malicious person or a drunk person. Low lumen means long battery life and is mostly used in emergencies. Examples of situations that require charging or natural disasters such as earthquakes can be given for moonlight mode. I like Nitecore lights but the lights themselves have shortcomings. For example, while the edc 35 is a great light, its battery cannot be changed. If the battery could be changed, it could be an edc that can be used forever and a great camping light. Although it says 500-550 meters, its effective lighting areas are 200-250 meters. I think this is a sufficient rate for a person walking in nature at night, but as I said, Nitecore fails in the class with its battery not being changeable and no sos modes. Is there a competitor? As far as I have observed, there are none. Your opinions are important, so I'd like to see the flashlights you suggest.
Woah that filter is wild. I wonder how it can be used. A 3rd of the lumens and the orange beam makes it really interesting. I dont how it would be used for signaling, id rather use it unfulters for that
I mean, perhaps AceBeam thinks that yellow/orange light penetrates fog better, but that has been disproven. I really am not sure what purpose it serves. But the beam does look super cool as orange. But as I said, huge lumen loss.
@@cheule Oh, it's been disproven? Interesting, can you share a link or something when I can learn more about this finding?
Well for starters, the idea that long wavelengths scatter less in fog is based on faulty logic. Rayleigh Scattering is the phenomenon where blue light scatters more in the atmosphere than red light, and explains why our Sky looks blue.
However, fog is water droplets millions of times larger than the wavelength of blue or orange light, and Rayleigh scattering doesn’t apply to fog.
It’s just bad science that was compounded by old laws. For example, up until the 90s, I believe, in Europe there was a law that mandated that all fog lights were yellow. But since it was based on bad science, the law was repealed.
@@cheule oh wow I did not know that! Neato
Thoughts on the L16 V2 vs the C8G?
I have no had a Sofirn C8G in hand, so I’ll only speculate. But the beam and tint on the AceBeam is so good, I’m assuming it’s better. It’s rare to find a beam this properly focused.
Budget sofirn equals budget beam profile at least in my opinion.
@@youtubeuser5424 you should do comparisons if possible
@@21700loverI’ve had many and still have 1 or 2 Sofirn lights, while they are a decent value they’re just blah.
Not yet, but will 😊👍🏻🔦
I've been looking at reviews about this flashlight, and you're not the only one getting way below the advertised lumens. I do think Acebeam is false advertising this flashlight.
Perhaps, but my equipment is not nearly good enough to call anyone’s bluff. Also throwier lights always underperform on small integrating sphere and lumen tubes.
@cheule Perhaps, but it's not a coincidence many over people who tested the same light, and they're also coming up around the same numbers as you did but with more sophisticated equipment.
What does it mean when there's an "HI" at the end of the emitter name?
I believe that means domeless.
@@jonathancaldentey4615 alright, let's hope that's correct info
HI mean hi intensity, which is domeless and higher candela than the non-HI variants.
@@cheule so domeless emitters typically have higher outputs compared to domed versions? In what applications what would you want a non-domed emitter?
@@21700lover Domeless emitters typically have lower outputs, but offer higher intensity beams. This is of course comparing emitters that offer both variants in the same reflectors and everything else.
Damn I would have bought this instead of the L21B in 6500k, hmmmm, ide like to compare the two side by side. Im really liking my armytek c2 pro nichia 4500k sometimes i wish the tint was a littke warmer instead of neutral and that it had a red light when mosquitoes are attacking me picking berries, i kind of want a max version too , i was going to get a zebralight headlamp but i was worried it wouldn't be as tough as the armytek albiet lighter, seen a review with a bunch pf cracked glass bezel
ill stick with olight javelot older one or the new one
Mine had problems right away..but seems to have gone away..also the charging port cover is trash....cmone Acebeam.....
Interesting, I didn’t find the port cover to be poorly made, what was your issue?
@@cheule Its in my shorts you can see the vid..
The port cover doesnt close well and opens up to easy
Sft-70 entered the chat🤣 sft 40 to ngl!
Did you delete my last comment?
I don’t delete comments, so nope. I have the TH-cam “filter potentially bad comments” feature on, perhaps it thought your comment was a problem?
@@cheule pretty unlikely. I didn't type anything bad
Feel free to say it again, as I say I don’t delete comments. Well, the only time I’ve ever had to was when it was obvious spam … “meet single women in your city”
Vote for xt12gt
I’m reviewing that light next.
Maybe it's just your white balance, but that corona looks an awful p*ss green!
WB was locked at daylight. And the light is slightly above BBL at lowest levels, but I’m telling you-and I’m very sensitive to green-the light looks neutral to me. Remember that emitters look different on camera than they do to your eye. My buddy Artie and I call it the “Cree Phenomenon”
Surprised to see you still on the Olight train being a “light snob.” I like your content until I see those Olight ads.
1) I definitely don’t pick ad content :)
2) Olight makes really high quality lights. The biggest thing they are guilty of is picking green tinted emitters. But the designs and UI and drivers are usually top notch.
@@cheule I’m with ya on the quality and the bad tint. But having seen so much Olight content, and usually days before a release or a sale….always makes me feel like I’m watching an ad. It’s no secret that Olight pumps them out to content creators en masse, I don’t fault it. It’s great marketing. TH-cam in general just feels like an ad anymore. You absolutely have content I really enjoy, and you certainly don’t hold back honesty on the yuck tint. I do feel like almost all Olight content on the tube is an ad though.
I promise to never hold back on reviews. If I say I like it; I really do. I don’t care about affiliate money. I do this for the love of the game.
@@cheule well sir I have learned a LOT from your channel, and it’s still my go to for all things luminous. I’d have never had the courage to de dome my nichias had it not been for your videos. I meant you no disrespect. 🍻
Great review thank you. Short time lurker here with a light hearted question. Do your neighbors complain much? Again, thx for the review.
No, I am on good terms with them all.