Killer grizzly survived | The Truth about Timothy Treadwell the Grizzly Man Documentary

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  • @KirraRMT
    @KirraRMT 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +204

    'Killer bear", it's just a bear. The best way to avoid getting eaten by a wild animal is to not volunteer as a food source. The bear was just being a bear, the humans were the problem.

    • @AYFKMRN
      @AYFKMRN 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Thank you-the bear is being a bear, Treadwell was, for all intents and purposes, being a numbskull.
      It’s similar to Siegfried and Roy’s tiger- the tiger is being a tiger, I do not care that he was hand raised practically since birth; there’s still an innate instinct within all animals called a survival instinct, and they’re not built to be submissive.
      With Treadwell’s countless proclamations of bravado regarding the bears, you have to wonder if he had even a shred of regret in the end. If it ever occurred to him that his life was prolonged as long as it was, was not out of some sort of perceived kinship with these animals but more so out of insanely dumb luck. He was definitely intelligent regarding some aspects of their behaviors and what things meant, but as with any other animal (including humans) each one is very different and just because a handful behave this way, not all will follow a perceived rule.
      In the end, I think it was ultimately his own hubristic pride that brought his demise, and I don’t think he ever truly realized how dangerous his actions were to himself, and more importantly, to the animals he proclaimed to love so much.

    • @carmeloeverhart6377
      @carmeloeverhart6377 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      😂😂😂😂that’s all folks

    • @318overwatch9
      @318overwatch9 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Bears doin bear things, humans doin dumb things into a bears path. Whelp, it doesn't take too long before luck runs out.

    • @timothyreilly8394
      @timothyreilly8394 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Or walk into bear Territory without bear spray or a large firearm with bear defense rounds. Bears don't honor human demarcation rules.

    • @altarush
      @altarush 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The bears lost fear of him. As long as that bear doesn’t kill another innocent person or eat one, I have no other with it surviving. What I read that it tried to sneak up to the rangers and police before the shot him. Bears don’t stalk people. In one of Tredwell’s videos, he is reading a book and a bear was stalking him and surprised attack him like a cat playing with his owner.

  • @tmo4330
    @tmo4330 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +270

    His filming was NOT a documentary on bears. It was a documentary on mental illness.

    • @paulx3827
      @paulx3827 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      first he only used drugs,later he went abusing bears

    • @JohnMacintyre-cl5nu
      @JohnMacintyre-cl5nu 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      AGREED HE WAS HAVING MENTAL BREAK DOWNS QUITE OFTEN! GBYAA!!!!!!!!!!

    • @tmo4330
      @tmo4330 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JohnMacintyre-cl5nu Ocean Ramsey will have the same results as Erwin and Tredwell.

    • @MOI-qq8zc
      @MOI-qq8zc 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@tmo4330 he changed his addiction from drugs to bears. Both will kill you

    • @Iwishiwasanoscarmeyerweiner
      @Iwishiwasanoscarmeyerweiner 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He had certain relations with a certain female griz. I know.

  • @jollyjakelovell4787
    @jollyjakelovell4787 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Thank you for classifying what Treadwell did as being *harassing* of the bears at Katmai.

  • @KetoCarnivoreLifestyle
    @KetoCarnivoreLifestyle 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +68

    I gurantee you, bears do not need a human to look after them.

    • @seanlamar29
      @seanlamar29 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      They do but not how he did it

    • @altarush
      @altarush 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@KetoCarnivoreLifestyle He endangered them by making them lose fear of people. That’s why those bears who the rangers found near Tredwell didn’t fear them. They had lost their natural fear of people because they were accustomed to Tredwell. You met one human, you met them all.

    • @JulieSimmonds-z2j
      @JulieSimmonds-z2j 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@KetoCarnivoreLifestyle
      *guarantee

    • @jsbaseball185
      @jsbaseball185 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe Da Bears do! Sorry. I'll let myself out.

    • @benitofranklyn4237
      @benitofranklyn4237 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well of course bears are much better at survival in the wild than we are. They do need help as a species nowadays, but just because of us. They need some humans to care enough to introduce and enforce laws so the other humans don't hunt them to extinction or destroy all their habitat.

  • @robertharkins1961
    @robertharkins1961 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +433

    After running a animal rehab, the one type of person that you never hire or allow to be a volunteer is the person that will say I've got a special bond with wild animals. Take my word there is NO special bond between humans and a wild creatures. It's only in their mind and these people are the ones who end up getting hurt or killed, and getting the animal put down.

    • @TheRealRenn
      @TheRealRenn 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

      Pretty sure my cat would eat me if she had to.
      That's why we are well stocked with her favorite Fancy Feast flavors

    • @bevfrench3496
      @bevfrench3496 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

      Plus the park rangers are a bit at fault too. There should have never been a second notice of his misbehavior. Arrested and not allowed back in. Try those tricks in Banff National Park or Kananaskis Park of Alberta and see what happens. Of course the second bear was curious, Timothy made it that way. And you killed it instead of spraying? not much of a hunter or preserver of wildlife now are they. He didn't die for the bears....he died because of the bears. I have never heard of an observer talking and behaving so childishly. Too bad.

    • @Grammyofboys
      @Grammyofboys 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      @bevfrench3496 he was hiding in the grizzly Maze and he moved every few days so the Rangers couldn't find him. He thought it was funny what he was doing.

    • @afwr209
      @afwr209 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      Very true. I love even my dogs to bits but always remember that they're dogs.

    • @StevenHunterPangians1
      @StevenHunterPangians1 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Amy was Ride or Die for real.

  • @Lunapodthe1st
    @Lunapodthe1st 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +289

    Amy's death is so tragic. She was scared of bears and didn't want to go, but Tredwell convinced her it was safe. Dude was an asshole.

    • @clairebradley6589
      @clairebradley6589 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

      I do agree it was tragic but she was a grown woman with her own mind.

    • @AZTLANSOLDIER13
      @AZTLANSOLDIER13 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      ​@MikeyNullwomen have no agency huh? How modern

    • @Trad-Am
      @Trad-Am 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Facts!

    • @kevinbryantsr.6443
      @kevinbryantsr.6443 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

      Just the fact that she was his girlfriend tells you she wasn't mentally right either. Dude was a looney bin 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @bloozedaddy
      @bloozedaddy 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@kevinbryantsr.6443well ...she was a girl....and his friend.

  • @thatguyjoe007
    @thatguyjoe007 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +270

    Timothy Treadwell was an 8 yr old boy, trapped inside an adult body.

    • @davemccage7918
      @davemccage7918 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

      I have nothing but contempt for this manchild. He accomplished NOTHING except to make a spectacle of himself like a nuisance streamer, and unlike an attention seeking influencer, he got innocent animals killed to satisfy his undeserved ego.

    • @josephinetracy1485
      @josephinetracy1485 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@davemccage7918 It's the age old fantasy..... "they took me in"

    • @FrankPagan-d9k
      @FrankPagan-d9k 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No. He was just another idiot. I mean really. There are still, and have been, many idiots in the world. It's just a fact. This man knew a bear could, and most likely, will kill and eat you if you approach them. He studied bears. He, just like man idiots, thought the rules didn't apply to them because they are "special" .. and most all idiots are wrong.

    • @heatherbeach4696
      @heatherbeach4696 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      I agree,,, his baby talk he was very eccentric

    • @DJones476
      @DJones476 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @thatguyjoe007: Yeah. Just like Justin Trudeau.

  • @micahlowbe9067
    @micahlowbe9067 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    The most accurate comment: “His false sense of self importance”, is what blinded him and put himself in danger. He thought that he was a protector of the bears or used that as justification to be around them when actually, he was interfering and harrassing their natural lives. They didn’t need protection, which Tim could’t provide anyway. He would have done them better by staying away. They became accustomed to people which is unsafe for both. There are others, like him , who think they are wildlife heroes and self-described experts. If you speak to them, tell them to stop and that they will die. They all die.

  • @hgstudios
    @hgstudios 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

    Excellent compilation. What I heard in Treadwell’s dialog was a self-fulfilling prophecy. “I will die here.”

    • @altarush
      @altarush 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hgstudios He wanted to die like a grizzly so the bear fulfill his wish.

  • @littlebitlost
    @littlebitlost 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    I don't have the time to watch this in its entirety, but I've saved it for tonight and given you a thumbs up.
    You'll never know how much i appreciate the lack of music and banging drums, etc.
    Excellent narration on your part as well.
    Thank you.

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Thank you so much for your kind words! I hope you enjoyed the full presentation.

    • @littlebitlost
      @littlebitlost 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@HomeInWildSpaceswatching now!

  • @BenjaminStoulen
    @BenjaminStoulen 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +198

    Treadwell was delusional to think he was accepted and loved by bears.

    • @oddreviews7645
      @oddreviews7645 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Love can be delusional 😢

    • @jonathanmosher72
      @jonathanmosher72 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      They did accept his presence for the most part. He's the only one to do that in history so...

    • @Lobo-tommy10
      @Lobo-tommy10 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      They loved his flavor tho

    • @samtaybi6029
      @samtaybi6029 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@jonathanmosher72 and...... no more tim treadwell....

    • @davidreed6264
      @davidreed6264 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Before dessert 🎂

  • @michaelmcnamara8047
    @michaelmcnamara8047 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +200

    The fact he dragged his girlfriend into this was so sad

    • @laurenhowell3194
      @laurenhowell3194 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      tragic

    • @leerogers630
      @leerogers630 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      Dude spend 18 summers alone with grizzly bears never got a scratch first time he takes his gf…………..js

    • @samwhite414
      @samwhite414 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@leerogers630he was set up on an animal trail

    • @geslinam9703
      @geslinam9703 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      She was an intelligent, educated woman who was not dragged into anything. No one had a gun to her head. It was so obvious he was deluded about those animals, how she did not see that is perplexing. We have black bears where I live. Driven off by early colonists, they were reintroduced a few decades ago and are doing well. Last time I went camping, there were bear warning signs everywhere, and I didn’t sleep a wink. I don’t think I would have been able to sleep even if I had 20 cans of bear spray and a loaded shotgun next to me. I can only assume the girlfriend was as crazy as treadwell was.

    • @top_gallant
      @top_gallant 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      @@geslinam9703 Society painted him as a bear expert. Back in the pre internet cell phone days just being on T.V. and writing a book made on a subject made you an expert. If everyone is saying he is an expert and he had done this 12 years running? I can see why she fell for it.

  • @robertharkins1961
    @robertharkins1961 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +269

    It ended the only way that it was going to eventually end. Leave wild creatures Alone.

    • @samfisher2306
      @samfisher2306 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      True. That "one day" finally came. I love wild animals from a distance only 😅

    • @KarolM1964
      @KarolM1964 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Amen to that!

    • @lynx6124
      @lynx6124 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      He thought he was invincible!---Sad!

    • @LibCon1980
      @LibCon1980 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Agreed! Treadwell was a goof who was responsible for his death and his girlfriend’s death.

    • @OWlsfordshire
      @OWlsfordshire 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      This shows you didn't watch the video. He knew how to get close to these wild beasts safely. He just didn't care.

  • @stevemtc1
    @stevemtc1 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +95

    I got a phd in Bear psychology in 10 sec. Stay away from wild bears

    • @Gurl-5150
      @Gurl-5150 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Far more informed than this fool. I'm only angry that the bears have died since. This was classic Darwinism.

    • @roxanneweichinger9318
      @roxanneweichinger9318 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @stevemtc1,😀👍Love your comment!

    • @nathanoriley2997
      @nathanoriley2997 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Well said 👍

  • @ariw9405
    @ariw9405 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +247

    Also Hertzog is anthropomorphizing bears. They don’t murder they survive. They kill to exterminate a threat or to eat that’s it.

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

      What you say is very true. In much the same way Treadwell projected his emotions and views onto the bears, Herzog did the same thing.
      It’s fascinating how we see ourselves or our biases in the eyes of wild animals.

    • @georgebella3139
      @georgebella3139 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Then why were both of them almost completely consumed? Fast forward and just killing a threat ! That bear was still not in hibernation because it was still hungry and waiting to get to the proper body fat content prior to going into full hibernation.

    • @laurenhowell3194
      @laurenhowell3194 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​it was getting time to fatten up for hibernation. the bear that got him was new to the area and not used to his shenanigans.

    • @Stickbow1980
      @Stickbow1980 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No they will murder other cubs to bring the mother back in heat so he can breed her.
      Bears most definitely murder strange cubs so he can then breed the mother and pass his genes.
      The only reason they kill strange cubs is to have a good time with mom !!!

    • @twinkletoes6290
      @twinkletoes6290 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@georgebella3139 OP stated they kill to exterminate a threat OR to eat, that’s it.
      He did NOT say they ONLY kill to exterminate a threat. He said they kill for TWO reasons - 1) to exterminate a threat and 2) to eat bc they’re hungry.
      So, not sure what you’re on about in your comment.
      From the description of the audio, it sounds like the initial bear that encountered and attacked Treadwell attacked bc it felt threatened. As it did NOT initially begin to attack to eat, but actually walked away initially, returning bc Treadwell got up and he & his girlfriend seemed to do just about everything they should NOT have done in that situation!!
      The bear attacked until Treadwell was no longer a threat to him, meaning he was almost dead or actually dead. His girlfriend had hit the bear w a frying pan repeatedly as it was attacking Treadwell. Then, she fled, as Treadwell urged her to as he was still being attacked and was dying. Her running most likely caught the bears attention and triggered it to give chase and take her down. Though we don’t know the specifics of how she was killed, as there was no audio to her last minutes alive.
      Once both were killed and no longer seen as a threat to the bear that initially attacked them, that bear along w multiple others consumed Treadwell and his girlfriend, as it was late in the season, right before they were going into hibernation (some had already gone into hibernation). So they had hyperphagia and were consuming what they could up until the last minute to prepare for winter and hibernation.
      The attack on Treadwell and his girlfriend was two pronged. The initial attack and killing, as they were seen as a threat. Then they were consumed by multiple bears, as the bears were experiencing hyperphagia that late in the season, preparing to go into hibernation, and there was now a source of food readily and freely available that no bear would willingly pass up on!

  • @kathyh.7709
    @kathyh.7709 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    Pride goeth before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall". Proverbs 16:18.

    • @DarrellMayberry
      @DarrellMayberry 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Amen And Amen, SO sad, was full of pride and drama , he was stretching reality!!! , he was sitting up bears to be hunted and killed, To his sweet mother, I am truly sorry for your loss!!!!, To the mother of that Beautiful lady, I am So sorry for your loss.

    • @midwesternoutdoorsandnatur8272
      @midwesternoutdoorsandnatur8272 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      God made these creatures in a way man cannot change. They are not companions. Dogs are. Bears are predators and we are prey and foolish to not be armed in their midst.

    • @bobbydueces71
      @bobbydueces71 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      God 😂

  • @jacobgill4808
    @jacobgill4808 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +192

    They should have arrested him and kicked him out of the park to permanently and not allowed him to return as soon as they found out what he was doing

    • @Stefan-ox5sk
      @Stefan-ox5sk 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Imagine the hissy fit he'd have

    • @pickititllneverheal9016
      @pickititllneverheal9016 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Can you imagine him and Tiger king being cell mates? 😂

    • @WKR79
      @WKR79 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      The story is bizarre but almost equally bizarre is how for 13 years authorities just let him keep breaking the law!

    • @stevepalpatine2828
      @stevepalpatine2828 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      Ever been up there? Its a huge area and most of its untracked apart from animal trails. He didnt call it the maze for nothing. Guy played hide snd seek with the park people for years. Its in the middle of nowhere. You cant keep someone out who wants to get in. Its not like a fenced in area with guards.
      How would you keep him out?

    • @WKR79
      @WKR79 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@stevepalpatine2828 I spent 5 years in Alaska but never to Katmai. Now that I think about it, I suppose you are right. Might as well let the bears fix the problem! lol They probably figured the bears would fix it much sooner than 13 years. Haha! 🙂

  • @123hgardner
    @123hgardner 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    I remember hearing about Timothy in college. We were amazed about this man living so far away with grizzly bears. I became obsessed with reading everything I could about this man and his life. I still have nightmares about his and his girlfriend's deaths. I read she was always afraid of bears, and knew Timothy was taking too many risks. That stayed with me.

  • @neil1390
    @neil1390 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +153

    The bears 🐻 probably thought,that weird human is back,stay away from him, he's not right in the head!

    • @ubahfly5409
      @ubahfly5409 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      That's what one of the park rangers in the documentary said. "The bears probably just thought he was gRetarted." 😂

    • @BlorkTDork
      @BlorkTDork 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I wanna be a grizzly bear but without the killing each other for the slightest thing

    • @altarush
      @altarush 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They were more compassion toward the mentally challenged than most people.

  • @ericpendleton5849
    @ericpendleton5849 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    While I have known of the Timothy Treadwell story for quite some time this is the first in depth commentary and analysis of the entire storyline. Very well done. Respectful and informative. Thank you for your work.

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for taking the time to watch!

    • @JulieSimmonds-z2j
      @JulieSimmonds-z2j 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@HomeInWildSpaces
      An excellent video. Great job!

  • @MOI-qq8zc
    @MOI-qq8zc 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +171

    He shouldn’t have been there in the fall. The bears are eating as much as possible prior to hibernation. Huge mistake

    • @matthewotis3594
      @matthewotis3594 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      And to take his gf? Wtf😢

    • @MOI-qq8zc
      @MOI-qq8zc 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @ 💯

    • @MLawrence-z9k
      @MLawrence-z9k 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      He knew that too !!!! He even said he might die a few hours before he actually did

    • @OWlsfordshire
      @OWlsfordshire 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Wasn't a mistake, he was well aware.

    • @Soundofwindonsand
      @Soundofwindonsand 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Your First Five words said everything

  • @jrsixowfour8674
    @jrsixowfour8674 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Bears arent bad, he had no business there.
    Same as swimming with sharks or walking around lions in africa

    • @bri-manhunter2654
      @bri-manhunter2654 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You need to listen to more bear stories before you say they are not bad. Also, it’s our planet too.

  • @lamontallen669
    @lamontallen669 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +129

    He should have been banned from the park for his recklessness!!!!!!

    • @tomowens674
      @tomowens674 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      He was

    • @mitch45ac
      @mitch45ac 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Great point. I can't believe I have never thought of that.

    • @juliesmead5503
      @juliesmead5503 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I disagree it's been people like this man that has given us all the knowledge of animals that we do have. Whatever happened out there to him and his girlfriend was unfortunate, but they knew the risk when they went in.They were adults.They have a right to do what they want with their life. We aren't all necessarily here to be our brothers.Keeper, give him good information and that's it.We go from there. People choose to do what they want to do.Then that's their choice. Just my opinion not saying yours is wrong.But in my opinion, I feel it's wrong.Jane Goodall was also told not to do what she did with Apes.But look what you know now because of her.

    • @lunasloanbailey
      @lunasloanbailey 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@juliesmead5503I understand what you mean, but Jane truly comes from a point of love, not some egotistical, mentally ill reckless ex drug addict. How many apes have she caused harm? Zero. The fruits of her work says all. One legacy Treadwell leaves behind is that grizzlies are more merciful than we give them credit. They put up with Treadwell for thirteen years, and he's the one who got innocent bears killed. RIP bears. So unfair.

    • @trollishmc2920
      @trollishmc2920 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      He was - but went back anyway. Dude had a deathwish even if it was just subconcious.

  • @jakhaughton1800
    @jakhaughton1800 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    A classic example of people assuming, wrongly, that wild animals are going to be friendly at all times of the year. When they’re hungry or seeking food prior to hibernation is when they’re most dangerous. This bloke was a nutcase looking for fame. I feel so sorry for his poor girlfriend.

    • @JulieSimmonds-z2j
      @JulieSimmonds-z2j 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @jakhaughton1800
      That's a horrific way to go. That poor girl...

  • @hermanrosenbrand2275
    @hermanrosenbrand2275 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    The first thing an expert on bear-behavior will tell you is that there is not such a thing as an expert on bear-behavior. They are all individuals with their own characters and experiences. Some are just cranky because perpetual toothache from fighting for instance. The ‘grizzly man’ despite his intentions did more harm to those bear by accustoming them to being close to humans as the interaction with the tourists proof. How he failed to see that his ego was bigger than his will to protect them was his biggest flaw in my opinion and cost the live of two bears besides that of his friend sadly. Also it influenced the perception on bears in distorted way. Enjoy wildlife from a distance, dangerous or not.

    • @chargree
      @chargree 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@hermanrosenbrand2275 Grammar violations notwithstanding, I like this comment for the most part. I dont agree that blame goes to Treadwell for the death of his friend. She was an adult. A functional human with self awareness and she is the only person responsible for her choices and actions, unless they are made under extreme duress and/or force. She CHOSE to go back out there with him. Also, I think criminal responsibility is an interesting topic. For example, a person can be found not guilty of a crime if they are judged to be Insane, or to have been at the time of the crime. So, why wouldn’t that apply to Treadwell with his delusions and likely rampant Autism? I know this is not a court case. But society reflects its leadership in many ways and same moral code that dictates to our Judicians and Legislative branches, if not the Executive as well, of our government, also is adopted by the majority of Americans, especially if they are not first generation immigrants that are relatively new.

    • @hermanrosenbrand2275
      @hermanrosenbrand2275 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ I can agree on being not that responsible for the death of his friend, still I feel she had not that many options being by herself and not able getting a flight home apart from checking into a hotel maybe.

    • @chargree
      @chargree 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hermanrosenbrand2275 Oh yeah, I get that it was not a simple choice. Many factors might have been taken into consideration. She loved him. Its very possible that her not wanting him to be back out there alone, because of her love for him and possibly she understood that he had delusions and that his thinking was dictated by emotion and mental illness primarily was influential in her decision, and HER decision it was. In that case, it would be most likely that SHE herself was guilty of this inability or unwillingness of the people of our time and culture specifically to place responsibility on the individual performing the action or thought. She would have been thinking Treadwell was unable to decide in a sound manner. This is almost certainly the case. The problem arises when she assumes that responsibility and determines to control the situation to get what she wants. This thought process is repeated between our government and the populace. Instead of allowing free markets, free trade, Rule of Law, The Constitution, etc to serve their purposes and then accept the accept the outcome with responsibility for each individual lying with the individual, the government says, for example, “if we dont force taxpayers to fund the Dept of Education, many parents wont get their children educated.” Once again, that is most likely true. But whose responsibility is it to make that choice. Not to mention that Federal funding for education is raised through an income tax that is grossly unconstitutional because it does not allow for the choice to opt out by not participating in the benefits/detriments either, instead of the sales tax which does allow choice and is constitutional. So this lack of personal responsibility and accountability directed inward or outward is the scourge of our time.

  • @jenmdawg
    @jenmdawg 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    The way Werner handled the audio in the documentary was the most genius kind of compassion I have ever seen by a documentarian. I admire him but had a new level of respect for his humanity in those few minutes of film.

  • @katgray63
    @katgray63 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +165

    I suspect Timothy Treadwell had high functioning autism and his special interest was bears I say this as someone with autism and my special interest is nature and wildlife.The hyper fixation and intense curiosity can drive you to have tunnel vision and recklessly ignore dangers

    • @seldom_bucket
      @seldom_bucket 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And what difference would that make?
      Why does a name for a specific type of human brain make change anything?
      You are who you are and we don't need to label every one slightly different with bs medical terms

    • @ubahfly5409
      @ubahfly5409 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +60

      Nah he was an addict who switched from drugz to bears. He got high from it. It's not uncommon for addicts in recovery to develop an unhealthy relationship w/ a new fixation/obsession.

    • @seldom_bucket
      @seldom_bucket 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@katgray63 so meaningless naming every slight behaviour as a medical term, it changes nothing.
      There is no correct way for a brain to work and they all work differently, acting like it's a medical diagnosis is just reductive

    • @MaddalenaCanepa-hv1ex
      @MaddalenaCanepa-hv1ex 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Questo era veramente fuori di testa( alla pari di quello che ha postato il video di mamma orsa co cuccioli in trentino espertissimo di orsi e lupi) peccato che questo è ancora vivo e vegeto evidentemente moooolto esperto insieme ha tutti gli ammiratori animalisti 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @nbinghi
      @nbinghi 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Agree. And explains why he struggled as a child, long before addictions came into the picture.

  • @J24J
    @J24J 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    What really struck me about the grizzlies in that area is how shockingly tolerant those bears were of Timothy invading their space every summer for almost 13 years. It says MUCH more about the bears than anything else.

    • @JulieSimmonds-z2j
      @JulieSimmonds-z2j 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I think he was there during the summers, when natural food was plentiful so the bears weren't seriously hungry. They had a fair bit of natural food.

    • @altarush
      @altarush 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I heard from some sources saying he was killed because he blasphemy against God and/or that the rangers had trained a bear to kill him. And Amy, too?

    • @altarush
      @altarush 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @JulieSimmonds-z2jPoor bears were starving. They had to eat carrion like Tredwell and Amy.

    • @rbra9611
      @rbra9611 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ Human tastes somewhat like pork although it is a very tough meat.

    • @altarush
      @altarush 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ Salty pork, but don’t eat the brain. Laughing disease is not funny.

  • @MaryofAz
    @MaryofAz 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +105

    Treadwell asked for his death, combined with profound ignorance and his misguided love for these predators.

    • @timothyharvey302
      @timothyharvey302 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      I love bears too. I don't camp with them. The ones in my neighborhood are black and I've never had a cross word with one.

    • @Alpha_Q_Up
      @Alpha_Q_Up 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      The Dunning-Krueger Effect on full display

    • @TheRealRenn
      @TheRealRenn 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      FA/FO

    • @darrellfilyaw7255
      @darrellfilyaw7255 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I can understand what you said, but there’s no difference than someone who swims with sharks or plays with snakes or even better drives a motorcycle or a car at high speed, which we all do people have a fascination with things that can kill them

    • @TheJfvader
      @TheJfvader 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Bears are very intelligent and emotional animals. We can't blame them while we act stupid in their domain. I'm sure he had a passion for them; however, having bears adjusted to human presence causes more harm to bears than humans in the long run. In the end, humans always win. They killed potentially two bears they claim may not have caused the death of those two people...
      Killings of bears based on the assumption that they caused somebody's injury/death while later the investigation showed it was the wrong bear, is not an isolated incident.

  • @royharper9472
    @royharper9472 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    The idea that Timmy was considered for Woody in Cheers is just as delusional as his bond with the bears.

  • @frogglen6350
    @frogglen6350 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +333

    i got to say, this is the best cover of this situation. No generic scary music. No fake scary narration. Fair warnings. You don't immediately assume it was one bear like every other youtuber. No using the fake audio. You're as objective as possible. You deserve more views.

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

      I really appreciate that. I hope that before long, this video will get more views. Thanks for helping out by watching and commenting! Glad you enjoyed the video.

    • @N0beefstew4u
      @N0beefstew4u 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      I agree, Mike is exceptional at gathering facts and keeping everything matter the fact. He does him homework and he certainly deserves more following but unfortunately since he doesn’t sensationalize his stories and over juice them for views and likes they get overlooked.

    • @dawning5285
      @dawning5285 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​​@@HomeInWildSpaces Ehi man, I know It sucks to put so much time and effort in a video without reaching an enjoyable number of views.
      I really appreciate this project you delivered and the scientific way you approached the matter, being both respectful but not lame nor cringely cinematographic.
      Unfortunately, TH-cam is not so happy when some images are shown in the video of its platforms/ when some words are used in their scripts, titles or descriptions.
      I think that's why the video is not pushed as the other videos where you discuss bears' attacks.
      Also, I think the thumbnail is great but the title could not immediately grip the topic you are gonna talk about (I admit that, without the thumbnail, It confused me too).
      Also, It's very long.
      People on TH-cam usually read the first words.
      It is really important to check if your public is in the majority composed by English speakers or not, you may use simpler words in the second case.
      Maybe someone flagged manually your video?
      I mean, the problem may not be related to anything I've said until now, but I still wanted to warn you about it, you never know.
      Thank your for your work!
      Sorry if I keep saying "man" but I don't remember your name, I'm so sorry xD
      Ps. One last thumbnail advice : even if using a human face creates more interaction with a potential viewer, and you nailed it using a famous image such as the cover of "Grizzly man", using too many words in a thumbnail can be problematic.
      They may not be well readable from afar, they may occupy too much space, It's better to use between 4 to 5 words max.
      Better not using them, if you ask me.
      But more than anything, the lower right of the thumbnail will be covered by the time duration of the video, so It could also cut the text or whatever there is there.
      Again, I hope I didn't sound rude or conceited, It's an amazing video and I'd like it to see it more widespread 🦾

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @dawning5285, I very much appreciate the feedback and your encouraging words. I am continually looking for ways to improve my content. I will very much look into making some of the changes you have suggested.
      In the mean time, thank you for helping boost this video by watching it and taking the time to offer your feedback. It is very much appreciated.

    • @dawning5285
      @dawning5285 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@HomeInWildSpaces Thanks to you for your hard work, you're more than welcome 🦾

  • @billyra4992
    @billyra4992 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +71

    What bothers me about Treadwell is the fact that he put his girlfriend in danger, ultimately killing her. Sorry Timmy I have no respect for you.

    • @davemccage7918
      @davemccage7918 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      He really was a selfish, egotistical nut job. But I also don’t feel much pity for his friend that got eaten either. After watching 10 minutes of Tastewell’s videos it’s clear that you should never trust that man with your safety. How his friend didn’t realize this fact, after years of being around him, is beyond me.

    • @stevepalpatine2828
      @stevepalpatine2828 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      He got complacent. He'd been doing it 13 years he thought they were his friends. He was nuts

    • @jimj9040
      @jimj9040 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Timmy can’t hear your apology…he was bear crap years ago.

    • @KetoCarnivoreLifestyle
      @KetoCarnivoreLifestyle 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      We was a mentally unstable narccaccist. Tragic for all involved. 😢

    • @josmclove4426
      @josmclove4426 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@jimj9040😂😂😂

  • @timtollett8513
    @timtollett8513 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    It was bound to happen. I, as many others, thought his death would have happened much earlier in his haphazardly way of living with bears. Wild animals are just that, wild and predicting their behavior is never and I mean never, predictable. Sorry, but the guy had a screw loose.

  • @albertw38
    @albertw38 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    One would think why didnt he just get a national park job and make a career out of it if he loved the bears and outdoors so much

  • @kiasax2
    @kiasax2 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +70

    This is a very objective review of Treadwell's delusional thinking and subsequent demise, which also led to the death of his girlfriend.
    My Native name is Kiasax which means Bear on the Left. My name does NOT give me any powers to understand bears.
    My amazing wife was a zoologist in her first career and found working with bears was more dangerous than working with big cats. She's told me that bears were far more difficult to read than big cats. Her quote was funny to me, "Bears lie." Meaning that bears hid their emotions.
    She's right, too. In every encounter I've had with bears, reading them wasn't possible. Avoiding bears was always the most prudent way to survive. My best teachers about wildlife were my Piegan Blackfoot great-grandfather and my Cherokee grandfather taught me to stay downwind while in bear country. That went a long way to keeping me alive in any environment where bears were living. That, and carrying firearms, lol.
    I really like your approach to this topic. Treadwell was delusional, without question and his sad ending was entirely predictable. That he got his girlfriend killed too was inexcusable. I didn't have anything against him, so long as his delusions only endangered him.
    Thanks for your pertinent review. Nice job.

    • @671homey
      @671homey 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Exactly. I would asvise anyone trying to make friends with a bear against it, but ultimately i think it's their own place to make decisions for themselves. What I hate, is that he brought his "girlfriend" into his delusion, and got her killed. I don't believe for a second that he had any interest in any female, orher than for the optics.

    • @nickpetkoglou1990
      @nickpetkoglou1990 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@671homey His girlfriend had a mind of her own & payed for her poor decisions. I would blame him for her death if he had tied her up & dragged her along against her will. Lets stick to the facts & reality shall we. If you decide to be a passenger in a car with someone you know is too drunk to drive & die in an accident .Who's to blame for your death? Ponder that for a minute.

    • @mortaljorma69
      @mortaljorma69 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      So what? He died for doing what he loved. I assume that you ain't going to be that lucky.

    • @jjmckay6man1
      @jjmckay6man1 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@mortaljorma69 he also got multiple bears killed while claiming to protect them.

    • @lunasloanbailey
      @lunasloanbailey 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@mortaljorma69He died doing something he loved,being eaten alive? Treadwell was mentally ill so maybe.

  • @riftster313
    @riftster313 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    The bear didn't kill Timothy. Timothy's arrogance killed him. It was literally only a matter of time as reckless and foolish as he was.

    • @proudatheist2042
      @proudatheist2042 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I get your point. His arrogance led him to overstay his welcome in a dangerous place at an especially dangerous time. However, he didn't die of an arrogance attack. He died of a bear attack. So, both his hubris and the bear killed him.

    • @riftster313
      @riftster313 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @proudatheist2042 true true.. a well intentioned fool and ursine casserole of sorts.. it's a shame too he really was their friend for his part

    • @mdavidf
      @mdavidf วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@proudatheist2042 You're wrong. You make it sound as if the bear would have traveled to California to kill him. Timothy was delusional, and that delusion is what killed him and his girlfriend.

  • @CPIcivrights
    @CPIcivrights 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    The extreme danger, especially of Grizzly bears, can not be overstated. That said, they will most likely try to avoid you at all cost. And maybe even if they see you have some sort of a strange curiosity of what you are who you are and what you're doing. BUT, make no mistake about it, you can very quickly be injured, disfigured for life or killed or worse, eaten alive. These animals are to be admired, respected, and feared if you have any intelligence whatsoever?

  • @NeeNeeMarie77
    @NeeNeeMarie77 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Fantastically done but I knew you would do a good job. I'm an addict in recovery. It's interesting that bears both saved Timothy (from addiction) and killed him. As addicts tho, we often just change our addictions. Quit drinking, take up smoking. Quit opioids, start eating more. It's almost like he went from being addicted to drugs to addicted to bears.
    Thank you for stating that the audio going around is fake. People fall on swords saying it's accurate.
    Well done! I sent this to my sister to watch bc we both lived in Alaska for 5 months and knew of his story.

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I really value your perspective. And I hope your recovery is going well. You can do it!
      I think you're very much right. Addictive personalities often transfer their addiction. Treadwell got some things right. He also got some things very wrong.
      There's a lot we can learn from his story. Thanks again!

    • @Janellabelle
      @Janellabelle 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He was addicted to the adrenaline rush. Addicts always have to go all in or not at all. They crank everything up to 11. He could've gone up there and followed the safety rules, but no, he wanted to kiss a bear on the nose and did it(!). That's like a hit of dopamine.
      In recovery almost 4 years myself, that's my opinion too.

  • @frogglen6350
    @frogglen6350 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    One new thing i learned watching this is that I never considered other bears participated in the act. It makes perfect sense, though.

    • @delfaeevans7991
      @delfaeevans7991 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Treadwell and his girlfriend Amie Huguenard were killed and almost fully eaten by a 28-year-old male bear whose stomach was later found to contain human remains and clothing.

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@delfaeevans7991 that bear’s stomach contained 25lbs of human remains. Treadwell and Huguenard were almost completely consumed.
      This was not a one bear deal. I cover all the evidence for this in the video.

    • @rbra9611
      @rbra9611 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Also, if a smaller bear makes the kill, a larger more dominant bear will come and claim the kill and eat the prey.

    • @blackops686
      @blackops686 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HomeInWildSpacestrue. He was eating by others wen they found him.

    • @Jakmak1480
      @Jakmak1480 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​​@@HomeInWildSpacesPeople always comment without watching and listening to something in its entirety. It's about as baffling as Treadwell was. Smh. Good presentation. Thx.

  • @bwray5054
    @bwray5054 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This is a well researched and balanced portrayal of the Treadwell story. Thank you for an unbiased fact based document.

  • @brianmcdonald9502
    @brianmcdonald9502 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    My Girlfriend and I watched the documentry about Treadwell and I told her he is not going to last long. Sure enough.

  • @beaustone2933
    @beaustone2933 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    He was mentally ill and people in his life allowed him to commit suicide by Bear, and caused many of Bear's to be killed, everyone who paid him to go on TV,or wrote about him in magazine are also responsible for the death of him and the Bear's

    • @bootnazz1786
      @bootnazz1786 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No,he caused his own death

  • @ericdavis2183
    @ericdavis2183 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    The Grizzly should survive. The DANGEROUS WILD ANIMAL. Didn't stalk anyone to their native land and invade their space. It's so weird that humans get hurt doing dangerous unnatural things on purpose.

    • @tonyquinlan7341
      @tonyquinlan7341 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      He would have probably wanted the grizzly to survive.

    • @ericdavis2183
      @ericdavis2183 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @tonyquinlan7341 He probably wanted to survive himself as well. I think most people, who put themselves in these situations. Probably wanted to survive.

  • @doublezmtnman
    @doublezmtnman 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    He died doing what he loved. The sad part is that Amy and two bears also died because of his delusion

  • @DJones476
    @DJones476 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    I suspect that investigators are overthinking things, and that the bear's intentions were predatory right from the start. The short hiatus can be explained by uncertainty on the bear's part. Allegedly, one of the sounds on the tape was the bear's canine teeth scratching at Treadwell's skull. The bear was trying to deliver the signature coup de grace preferred by both _Ursus arctos_ and _Ursus maritimus._ However, the bear's canine teeth were too worn down to offer purchase, and Treadwell's skull kept slipping out of grasp. The supposition that Amie's screams triggered predatory behavior makes no sense at all. The bear knew perfectly well what he was attacking. After all, bears rank right up there with dolphins, elephants, and anthropoid apes when it comes to sheer brain power. Sorry, dog fans. It's not even close! The only reason the bear backed off was to reassess and come up with a better plan. Humans are not natural prey and quite often, when a cougar, wolf, bear, tiger, or even great white shark decides to prey on a human for the first time, the attack can often be described as 'poorly thought out' or 'clumsy'. Situations like the "Shark in the pond!" scene in the film Jaws can only be attributed to carnivores that have become experienced and refined manhunters - as creepy as that is. There was a cougar down in California that preyed on humans by hunkering down beside a cycling trail. The cat would pounce, kill the cyclist, leave the bicycle where it was, and drag the corpse away to stash. The cougar obviously 'went into his settings and hit repeat', because he would go right back to the edge of the trail and wait for the next poor sucker. The first kill was clumsy and awkward, the second went a little quicker, and by the third, the cat was starting to get the hang of it. The trick was to bite lower on the human neck than he normally would on a deer neck. The large, bulbous human skull tends to get in the way, and human vertebrae are the wrong distance apart for a cougar's upper canines (cougars evolved to hunt cervidae). The possibility that the cougar figured that out on his own while crouched and waiting is not farfetched at all.

    • @RUDEMASTER
      @RUDEMASTER 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      N this u know how????

    • @DJones476
      @DJones476 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RUDEMASTER Know what? The tape, you mean? I _did_ say "allegedly", remember?
      Allegedly, the reason Treadwell got out of the tent was actually to take a leak, NOT investigate a bear. The sound of the rain is heard, Timothy pissing all over Hell's half acre is probably not heard over top of the rain, but we hear him say, "Haha! These fuckers are gonna kill me!" He was very likely talking about the mosquitos. On his way back inside the tent, he was attacked.
      Allegedly...

    • @CarolineThomas-j8j
      @CarolineThomas-j8j 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      We don't know how or why.........

    • @krapeevids6992
      @krapeevids6992 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That was a grotesque but informative comment. Just stay tf away from nature.

    • @lunasloanbailey
      @lunasloanbailey 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@RUDEMASTERAnimals are smarter than you think.

  • @rsa9082
    @rsa9082 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    The first time I watched one of his videos. I said “. The next time we hear about this guy. He will be dead by one of those bears”
    What he was doing was absolutely insane. That poor woman he took to her death and their families horrific pain.

  • @MOI-qq8zc
    @MOI-qq8zc 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    He shouldn’t have been there in the fall. The bears are eating as much as possible prior to hibernation. Huge mistake. And never ever keep or cook food at your camp. Never

    • @KetoCarnivoreLifestyle
      @KetoCarnivoreLifestyle 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Where u supposed to cook then

    • @MOI-qq8zc
      @MOI-qq8zc 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ away from your camp.

  • @DoyleHargraves
    @DoyleHargraves วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Treadwell himself was a threat to those bears.

  • @francestoddy4368
    @francestoddy4368 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

    Instead of asking biologists go ask Native people, tribal communities who live with these magnificent & wild animals. As Native people we have lived alongside the wildlife for thousands of years. They are wild animals. They can never ever be tamed. Use common sense.

  • @ryanmacarthur1299
    @ryanmacarthur1299 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    If he was born 20 years later, he would just be an annoying influencer doing stupid shit for his own interests.

    • @Mustang-bk4ns
      @Mustang-bk4ns 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      LoL, that's a great way of describing him. And he probably wouldn't have caused someone to get killed.

    • @Soundofwindonsand
      @Soundofwindonsand 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My thoughts exactly
      We're brilliant 🙃

    • @proudatheist2042
      @proudatheist2042 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Mustang-bk4nsI politely disagree. Even if he was born 20 years later and still alive, I think his story probably would have ended in being eaten alive by a bear.

    • @nunyabiznis3595
      @nunyabiznis3595 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Do you think he was yelling "IT'S A PRANK" as he was being eaten.

  • @tinathomas9802
    @tinathomas9802 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    I saw the pic of Timothy Treadwell and clicked.
    I took a look at your other videos and I Subscribed.
    I’m looking forward to watching them.
    Great video!
    Thank You !
    Excellent Narration too.
    Video quality is Amazing !!

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Welcome aboard! And thanks for your support! Much more to come.

    • @NeeNeeMarie77
      @NeeNeeMarie77 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Watch his yosemite and grand canyon vids. They are phenomenal!

    • @Grammyofboys
      @Grammyofboys 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@HomeInWildSpacesif you are going to do more videos and then you need to do your homework first because you absolutely got everything wrong on this video

  • @j.brendenstookey3437
    @j.brendenstookey3437 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Everyone knew he was going to be eaten by a bear except him. My friend’s dad was a field guide in Alaska during this time period and remembers large numbers of people going out of their way to tell this dude to please not set up his camp on game trails, that he would be associated with food, but he didn’t listen. Then peak hubris led him to stop carrying bear spray. He FAFO. His poor GF paid for his ignorance with her life, a tragedy.

  • @CYNTHIAOLSON-tx3rr
    @CYNTHIAOLSON-tx3rr 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Thank you for this...especially the balanced and sensitive way you wrapped it all up at the end. Very moving.

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Thanks! It was important to me to get it right.

    • @Grammyofboys
      @Grammyofboys 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @HomeInWildSpaces well then you better do your homework because you got it all wrong. Watch the documentary by Herzog and you will find everything you need to learn. You're giving people the wrong facts and that's not right. If I knew how to post the video with the documentary I would but I don't know how to do stuff like that

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@GrammyofboysI am extremely familiar with Herzog’s documentary. Both what he got right, and what he got wrong.
      I’ve done my homework. The evidence is now here-for people who are open to hearing it.

  • @Phildo8
    @Phildo8 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I’ve studied Timothy at lengths, I don’t get why he thought those bears needed “protection” bc no one was poaching them up there, no one was up there harming them. So him saying he was a “protector” holds no weight bc they didn’t need protection at all

    • @Holocaustica
      @Holocaustica 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      He pretended they needed protection… from evil hikers and rafters and hunters. That’s what gets attention. He saw the fear people had, packaged it as hostility because he got more $upport by pretending it was hate-fueled violence against all bearkind and it was at crisis levels and he was the chosen one and would save them from the evil DFW.
      And also… a ninja.

    • @rbra9611
      @rbra9611 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is a great point. The bears are so protected and used to humans watching them, it probably was the reason he was able to get so close to them for 13 years without being killed.

    • @bloozedaddy
      @bloozedaddy 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's known in psychiatric circles as a Messiah Complex. It was all about Timmy...not the bears.

  • @JayPerry-p2n
    @JayPerry-p2n 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I will never understand anyone who lives among these animals and doesn't reserve the weapon's too use in a bad situation. Trust doesn't always cut it.

  • @jenniyogipuncturist2034
    @jenniyogipuncturist2034 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Sounds like someone who was desperate to be special and stand out but wouldn’t or couldn’t put in the work. He did literally nothing for bears.

  • @hsdinoman2267
    @hsdinoman2267 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    the wait is finally over
    its here
    Edit: this was a 1000 times more informative than Grizzly man could have been

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I hope it was worth the wait. Thanks for being patient.

    • @hsdinoman2267
      @hsdinoman2267 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@HomeInWildSpaces it was definitely worth the wait

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  20 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Glad to hear it. I hope you’ll also consider sharing it.

  • @briendraper4818
    @briendraper4818 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    His sloppy camping practices is what brought that bear into his camp. Hell, we hung our food in trees away from camp in the boy scouts. Not having a defensive weapon including bear spray is his ultimate downfall. He meant good but was really messing with the bears heads. Not a good practice. Joe Rogan is not part of the problem.

  • @Bernadette-bb4jl
    @Bernadette-bb4jl 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Thank you Mike. I have followed this story for many years. Timothy was on the spectrum, he had no fear of the bears and truly regarded them as his friends. Wild animals have to be respected and protected, the wilderness is their home. 🏡

    • @yesterdayseyes
      @yesterdayseyes 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Stop with this everyone's on the spectrum BS

    • @Bernadette-bb4jl
      @Bernadette-bb4jl 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@yesterdayseyesoff you go, back under the rock

  • @mikenagy938
    @mikenagy938 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    So last summer i went out to see these bears for myself. We chartered a plane which took us out to an open meadow several miles long. Thete were bears there, many bears. Our group had two guides and four tourists, they took us out to visit and look them over. We got close, about 60 yards but that was it. The bears were out there for the spring grasses which are high in proteins. That was as close as i ever want to be to these guys. This is a big business in Alaska as there were at least ten groups besides us.

  • @rickjensen1480
    @rickjensen1480 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Very nicely put together. I spent a good portion of my youth on Kodiak and Treadwell's sad story always mystified me. It's best to heed the real message it provides. Good job, I enjoyed watching.

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Glad you enjoyed it! Treadwell’s story is incredibly informative. Glad I got a chance to discuss.

    • @lilyw.719
      @lilyw.719 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @HomeinWildSpaces You know, there was a former Katmai park ranger who knew Treadwell in the comments section of another popular TH-cam video, and if you could find that thread, he put out some really pertinent info that hasn't appeared anywhere before. He made a statement that heavily implied that Treadwell had gotten bears killed before he even died, in the 13 years leading up to that finale. From what the ranger said, a few of the bears were exhibiting behavior that showed they were habituated to humans, and that was concerning enough that the rangers put the bears down. He implied that the rangers believed that it had to do with Treadwell.
      The ranger also said that they couldn't legally keep Treadwell out of the park because they would have needed a judge's court order, which was next to impossible for them to get. It sounded like the judges were too skittish to do that back in that day. Not sure why, but maybe it had to do with being too skittish to remove somebody's right to public land without some extreme cause. The ranger said that things didn't change until after Treadwell died.

    • @rickjensen1480
      @rickjensen1480 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lilyw.719 I absolutely believe that. The real message of the Treadwell saga I was trying to convey was that delusion does not change reality. The wild is always wild and should be respected. The more you do what Treadwell did, the more you harm them. And perhaps yourself. I hope most understood that. I have sympathy for the death of Treadwell and his girlfriend, but they sadly did bring their fate on themselves. And sadly the bears. Only my opinions of course.

  • @davidjackson4916
    @davidjackson4916 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    This dude needed a lot of mental help!!

  • @shadowcastre
    @shadowcastre 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Interesting video.
    Timothy was on a fools errand in his state of dillusion. His end was inevitable.
    Thank you for acknowledging that both firearms and bear spray are simply defensive tools.

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Thanks for watching and sharing your feedback. It's always welcomed and appreciated.

    • @irishninja2009
      @irishninja2009 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Delusion

  • @larryharris1163
    @larryharris1163 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I feel for the Bears that got shot. Dude was insane, that was a death wish! He said he would die for them, HE DID and his girlfriend went down with him!

  • @shannthrax
    @shannthrax 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I've always found it ironic when the helicopter pilot (Ron Swanson mustache, aviators) goes on about Treadwell anthropomorphizing the bears like children of the universe and then immediately turns around and anthropomorphizes the bears by suggesting they probably thought Treadwell was mentally re***ded. I don't know if anthropomorphizes is actually a word, but you know what I mean.

    • @CC42_
      @CC42_ 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      It's a word lol

  • @mernaloy2269
    @mernaloy2269 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Thank you for this balanced and respectful look into the Timothy Treadwell story. I was obsessed with the Grizzly Man for a while. I read all the books and even donated money to grizzly people. I applaud you for your most interesting look into this mostly forgotten story. There will always be people who push the boundaries of life, for whatever reason. I enjoyed this very much. RIP Tim and Amy

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That is high praise. Thank you! So glad you found the video informative.

  • @columbus730
    @columbus730 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    It was an interesting presentation but how can we know for certain that the two bears killed were not the ones involved in the attack. What difference does it make? Treadwell was a tragic individual whose irresponsible actions resulted in his death, the death of his friend, and the death of two bears that he reportedly wished to protect. Maybe the two bears killed weren't the ones. Perhaps there were others, but, if so, we'll never know.

    • @herstoryanimated
      @herstoryanimated 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yeah, I'd understood from this case that Timothy made a video with a bear in the days before his death, saying how this one wasn't acting like the bears he was used to it seemed more predatory (not the words he used, but what the words he used actually translate into bear behaviour). I understand that in the final recording he states it is this bear again. I also understand that one of the bears shot matches the description of this bear, and matches the video of it. I could be wrong, but I did read into this quite extensively at one point.

    • @stellarwind1946
      @stellarwind1946 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They shot and killed a bear protecting the campsite and found human remains inside it.

  • @Mickey007
    @Mickey007 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The Ranger & Pilot said the bear was shot and is deceased.
    That bear was then examined for Tim and his Girlfriends Remains. What was left they cremated. Tim's ashes were spread out in the wildlife area where he went every year.

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I cover that all in the video, and the many reasons that does not mean that bear was the killer. The evidence is presented clearly for those willing to consider it.

    • @Mickey007
      @Mickey007 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HomeInWildSpaces I have considered all the evidence. Rather it be your s or many others who were Actually Involved in the Case & Autopsy.

  • @nadinecooper4449
    @nadinecooper4449 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Very well reported and presented.

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thanks! And thank you for taking the time to watch.

  • @mechengineer4894
    @mechengineer4894 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    There's footage of him trying to pet a massive grizzly as it was bathing and it let him know immediately it didn't like to be touched.

  • @cotythomas2454
    @cotythomas2454 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    This guy was a quack definitely had some fried brain cells

  • @paying-for-free-speech
    @paying-for-free-speech 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Its a damn shame we didn't get to see this guy on the joe rogan experience podcast

  • @bjrnterjesen651
    @bjrnterjesen651 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Timothy did not tread well

  • @robost8040
    @robost8040 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I was living and working in Malibu in the 1990’s and met Treadwell. He was friends with clients of mine who were TV writers. He would sometimes walk their black German Shepard on the beach next to their home. I spoke with him on a few occasions, the last being at Malibu Lumber. He was very enthusiastic about what he was doing with the wild animals in Alaska and the presentations he gave the rest of the year. I silently thought that it was only a matter of time before things would go badly, and it did. He said he wasn’t afraid of being killed by a bear but in the case of his girlfriend, that was terrible. At the time, and now, I think he should not have been in the bears habitat to begin with.

  • @JTA-r7x
    @JTA-r7x 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Ohe little toothache or headache or just a thorn in the paw and its a whole different bear

  • @jesalyn84
    @jesalyn84 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Treadmill was both responsible for his girlfriend and all of those bears deaths. None of them deserved what happened to them.

  • @WildWoodlandsSW
    @WildWoodlandsSW 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Terrific analysis of this sad story. You were fair and took all aspects into consideration,great job,this video should be more viewed. Subscribed,and best wishes.

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thank you very much! Welcome aboard!

  • @simplysyndilou6768
    @simplysyndilou6768 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    The guy was an idiot...end of story!
    How he survived as long as he did is beyond me.

  • @kingofcapp
    @kingofcapp 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    If you've ever been truly dominated in an actual fight, especially against multiple attackers, you have some idea what a bear attack involves. There's a horrible exhaustion and despair.
    A bear, especially a grizzly, is orders of magnitude larger and stronger than the most powerful human. Without a force multiplier you have literally no chance whatsoever. When I see unprepared hikers it blows my mind. You can't bargain with a bear any more than you can bargain with a storm or a flood or a lightning strike.

    • @IAm1InTheIAm
      @IAm1InTheIAm 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yep, that's the understanding I've come to after living in rural and remote Alaska for 43 years. Force multipliers work for me. Nice to have in a pinch. But I never overuse them. But they have definitely kept me from becoming a bear turd more than once! 😮🐻 👍

    • @stephenalex4345
      @stephenalex4345 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@IAm1InTheIAm
      How often do you encounter bears?
      I live in the UK, and bear country fascinates me.

    • @IAm1InTheIAm
      @IAm1InTheIAm 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @stephenalex4345 at least once per year, sometimes more if I'm spending more time in the woods. I've encountered them as early as March and as late as November. If I'm looking for them, I can always find them. I live in bear country so it's not hard to run into them.

  • @wrthrash
    @wrthrash 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Treadwell, RIP, was the exact definition of a "Darwin Award" inasmuch that even a befriended wild squirrel will bite the sh*t out of you at a moments notice. Very sad.

  • @alexfenton229
    @alexfenton229 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Beautifully insightful and compassionate view on this tragedy. Thank you, really excellent film😊❤

  • @novascotiaskater1868
    @novascotiaskater1868 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The reason he was finally mauled to death is because he was leaving at the end of September but hadn't seen one of his fav bears so he convinced Amy to go back and it was the beginning of October- he'd never been there that late in the season... the bears who knew him were gone and the bear that killed them was an old hurt bear who was starving to death and desperate... he got himself and Amy killed...

    • @JCX-9
      @JCX-9 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yes exactly, he stayed into their hibernation season and that was the big mistake. The bear acts on instinct to eat anything to sustain himself. It’s about survival instincts not about camaraderie. Can’t believe the guy’s ignorance. One would think he would know that with all his experience.

  • @garycrandall8649
    @garycrandall8649 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I live in NW Montana and yes we have grizzlies here. Treadwell showed us two things. 1. you don't have to fear bears if you respect them and their space. 2. What happens to you when you don't.Treadwell crossed that line one too many times, and he paid the ultimate price. I don't fear grizzlies OR black bears because I will never cross that line. I do however, fear mountain lions. Bears are scavengers, lions are preditors. Know the differance. In addition, I allways carry a firearm and a big one, for insurance and I attach bear bells to my dog's collars.

    • @delfaeevans7991
      @delfaeevans7991 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You live in a beautiful place, very similar to where we live in Canada. We are from the Kootenays, one mountain range west of the Rockies. We have since moved to a small lake in the rain forest and mountains of Vancouver Island. We are very familiar with bears and all the wildlife that comes with living in the forest. The black bear population on Vancouver Island is estimated to be between 7,000 and 12,000, making it one of the densest black bear populations in the world. WE LOVE IT! Our families have lived amongst wildlife generationally so we have experience in what signs bears leave and we leave if we see any. We always carry bear spray and have well trained dogs. Firearms stay on the farm. Wild should remain Wild so we do everything possible so bears do not visit our place. Enjoy your beautiful Montana!

    • @garycrandall8649
      @garycrandall8649 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@delfaeevans7991 Thank you. I live 3 to 4 hundred yards from the Canadian border and two miles east of Lake Koocanusa. I love my Canadian friends. We are all north americans. Vancouver Island reports half the mountain lion attacks in north america. Be Careful. And say hello to Sasquatch for me.

  • @-cMc-
    @-cMc- 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Bears are absolutely terrifying and basically demonic just insane that there isn’t much you can do when caught by a bear.

  • @myjeanification
    @myjeanification 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    He brought harm to the bears not help. If he really loved the bears he would have left them alone, he was an arrogant narcissist.

  • @ChesterWortham
    @ChesterWortham 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Only a fool would camp or even be in bear country without a gun

  • @mick8018
    @mick8018 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Excellent work. This is a thoughtfully articulated account that effectively debriefs and accurately captures the tragedy of this man's life and death.

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I appreciate that. Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks so much for watching.

  • @joshuamccasland8180
    @joshuamccasland8180 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Hunters spend more money, time, and effort to conserve these places and animals while those who cry foul are the ones doing the damage.

  • @Cba409
    @Cba409 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Ive already watched like 5 documenaries on this guy, yet here i am.

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He is a fascinating character. There is not doubt about it. I hope you enjoyed the video.

    • @Cba409
      @Cba409 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@HomeInWildSpaces i dont think the bear is still alive. Im of the opinion it was an older bear. Older bears that are struggling are far more likely to hunt humans.

  • @TheBigfoot425
    @TheBigfoot425 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    "I will die for these animals" Yep, you sure did. I feel more sorry for the bears the rangers killed simply for being wild animals than I do for a suicidal doof and his willing g/f.

  • @jackiet.digiacomo3292
    @jackiet.digiacomo3292 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Your analysis is so thoughtful and informative.

    • @HomeInWildSpaces
      @HomeInWildSpaces  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm glad you found it helpful! Thanks for watching!

  • @jaysonx5576
    @jaysonx5576 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    He was my friend’s neighbor in Malibu. “WAS.” We were horrified, but everyone kind of knew it would end like this for him, but didn’t want to admit it.

  • @glamdolly30
    @glamdolly30 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    My biggest issue with this guy, is he got his girlfriend killed. I read she was planning on ending their relationship. Too bad she didn't do it before a bear ended them.
    Treadwell wouldn't carry a gun, or even bear spray. If he was willing to be killed that's his choice, but to refuse to protect his partner was unforgivable.

  • @davewade30
    @davewade30 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Treadwell didn't increase my fear of bears.
    I respect bears the same way I respect cops, gang members, or venomous snakes.
    Chances are they won't hurt you, but best to keep your distance.
    They can all easily kill you, so no need to tempt fate.
    Call it fear or respect if you wish. I call it common sense.

  • @quantruong9078
    @quantruong9078 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    He trust and love those bears so much that he's constantly watching his back

  • @leoncaw326
    @leoncaw326 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Overall an amazing diversity of cautionary tales in the whole ordeal. Don’t trust your safely to people with delusional thinking. Don’t assume human motives to animals. It always amazes me, the people who think they have a “special friendship “ with wild animals, forget how animals treat each other. That bear cannibal video was chilling.

  • @mikeevans7381
    @mikeevans7381 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A Bloodhound has a sense of smell 300 times better than a human. A Bear has a sense of smell 7 times stronger than a Bloodhound. Having food in the same tent as where you sleep is we'll NOT GOOD. 🤔😔🇺🇸

  • @Jerry-b7f
    @Jerry-b7f 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    The absolute worst part is that he got the lady killed along with him. His ignorance cost 2 lives, instead of just his. Also Timothy NEVER thought he was a bear. That's ridiculous and I wonder why you said it?

  • @coyotej4895
    @coyotej4895 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    He was an Idiot that when told by locals to stay away from the bears refused to listen. When told taking his girlfriend out there was a horrible Idea again refused to heed the warnings. F around and Fiend out. Sad but true and the universe does not care about feelings. I grew up in SE Alaska and around them and what he was only ever going to end one way.

  • @robertluna8993
    @robertluna8993 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    My opinion is that the
    Guy was not
    All there. It’s like going into a really bad neighborhood wearing a huge chain