Making a Punch and Die - Logo out of Brass

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    When I asked in my recent Parser drill video whether I should make this Punch and die video there were a lot of requests for it. So here it is, hopefully you enjoy it I had a great time making it.
    I forgot to do a shoutout in the video for Clickspring where I got the idea of grinding the files, it was a great tip. Also Thanks to Corin for sending me the steel
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  • @PaskMakes
    @PaskMakes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Get my 'Hold Strong' Shirt: rlnk.cc/paskmakesholdstrongshirt
    When I asked in my recent Parser drill video whether I should make this Punch and die video there were a lot of requests for it. So here it is, hopefully you enjoy it I had a great time making it.
    Also Thanks to Corin for sending me the steel ( instagram.com/corin_at_gameco/ ) and Luke for helping with the heat treat ( instagram.com/make_smith/ ).

  • @jeffpillasch5877
    @jeffpillasch5877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +306

    Hey, I work on industrial punches for a living. A few fine points:
    There should always be a clearance between the punch and die; soft stuff like brass and aluminium wants about 5% of material thickness, 10% for mild steel, and maybe more for hard stuff like stainless up to about 20%. Also, you only need 1 mm of penetration into the die, as the material snaps off before then. Another point, is that the force required to break through is totally dependent on the perimeter of the cut, not the surface area, so to minimize the force required for the cut, you can grind an angle on the cutting face, so the whole thing isn't brought to bear at once. Keep up the good work, that was another in a long series of great videos.

    • @corinkayaker
      @corinkayaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Wow great information! Thanks for this.

    • @benash2954
      @benash2954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Excellent info. Do you need a relief angle on the punch (as in, not have the sides of the punch parallel with the direction that the punch moves) or is it ok for the punch to have parallel sides?

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      That's really awesome info Jeff, thanks for that. I did know about the clearance and did plan to mention it but forgot. I didn't feel I had the ability to work to those sort of tolerances with files and knew there would be some sort of clearance as I wouldn't be able to get the fit super precise.
      The force required is interesting. I wasn't super confident it'd work but I'm very happy with the results. :)

    • @jeffpillasch5877
      @jeffpillasch5877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@benash2954 yeah, you don’t need a draft angle like a mold, straight sides work great. The cut itself is a totally 2 dimensional thing. All the work takes place right at the intersection between punch & die

    • @benash2954
      @benash2954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jeffpillasch5877 Thanks!

  • @ArcaneTinker
    @ArcaneTinker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Paint the faces of your file guide with layout fluid or permanent marker ink. It buys you a few file kisses that you can easily see before hitting the carbide

  • @AJ-ln4sm
    @AJ-ln4sm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Your patience with a file is remarkable. Excellent work sir!

    • @gianlucalocri
      @gianlucalocri 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL You've never seen Chris from Clickspring, have you?
      Btw I agree with you. Neil makes really fantastic pieces of art!

    • @CONEHEADDK
      @CONEHEADDK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      good tools help a lot

    • @ryannelson2211
      @ryannelson2211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Truer words have not be spoken

  • @FirstLast-cc6cv
    @FirstLast-cc6cv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It was actually really cool to see this process. I work in a metal stamping factory and run various presses, but I've never seen how a die is made. I also tend to work team presses, they hit at anywhere from 250 to 600 ton. They can go higher but all the parts I've made on the big presses usually fall into that range

  • @willmorrison1022
    @willmorrison1022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You, sir, are an artist with a hand file. Kudos and hats off, gentlemen, a master at work!

  • @Craftlngo
    @Craftlngo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Making a Punch and Die _by hand_ to punch out sheet metal is very impressive. You have to be very precise to get proper looking results and your punched out pieces look amazing!

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks very much! :)

  • @Rsama60
    @Rsama60 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Nice project, reminds me of my apprenticeship as a tool and die maker in the 1970's. During the apprenticeship we also had to make those tools by hand using files. The first 6 months was really filing only (more or less) before we learned machining.
    Your tool looks well done and it does the job nicely.
    Btw if you would have hardened the punch before you could have used the punch and you press to precisely make the die.
    It also look to me that you made the gap between the punch and die just right. Although the exact measures of your logo inlay are really not important. The gap is dependent on the thickness of your sheet metal and the shear strength of the material you punch,

    • @RasmusHuusom
      @RasmusHuusom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Where about to write the exact same thing 😀, I was one of the last in Denmark that learned to make dies with a file when I was an apprentice.

  • @CYDeviant
    @CYDeviant 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very impressive display of precision! That parser bit is incredible

  • @harrygoudswaard8601
    @harrygoudswaard8601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Amazing project again Neil! The patience and skill in these projects is very respectable. I also really enjoy that you have taken up metal work as well, just another way to express your creativity, keep it up! 👌🏻

  • @kevinetheridge6153
    @kevinetheridge6153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Real satisfying when that first one pops off w the lil red rubber stripper thing. Well done, as always 😁

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The stripper really did work fantastic! :)

  • @bradleytuckwell4854
    @bradleytuckwell4854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loving the variety of entertainment you are giving us Nice project looks awesome looking forward to seeing what you’re going to do next

  • @gregkieser1157
    @gregkieser1157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Congratulations - these last two videos are exceptionally creative and very functional.

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed them Greg! :)

  • @JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
    @JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great companion to the amazing Parser drill!

  • @miki09876
    @miki09876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow! Thumb in the eye of all those cnc videos! Pask you're always awesome.

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks - I have nothing against CNC's though and maybe something I'll look at in the future. I don't think a CNC would get a lot of use in my workshop but would be handy for certain projects. :)

  • @jebowlin3879
    @jebowlin3879 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Pretty neat, you never cease to amaze Neil

  • @xxPenjoxx
    @xxPenjoxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Of course it turns up after you've started! Your filing was excellent, incredible patience 👍

  • @benoitlemaire9072
    @benoitlemaire9072 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow! Don't even imagine that it was possible to make punch and die with file! But I guess this is how it was done before milling machine, CNC or wire cutting .
    Great job, as usual
    Thanks for sharing

  • @kevin_delgado
    @kevin_delgado 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Awesome. Another (potential) idea would be to make the punch a teeny bit smaller than the die, and use black (or other color) CA or epoxy to give it a little outline pop.

  • @pemtax557
    @pemtax557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They add a real touch of class to your projects. Great idea and implementation. Cheers!

  • @martinlouden9005
    @martinlouden9005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow Neil, I already had severe workshop envy. It's now been compounded along with a feeling of technical inadequacy! I love your channel and your wonderful talents.

  • @zTribalstylerz
    @zTribalstylerz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Super cool!!! That's a fun signature to leave behind

  • @michaelthorogood8524
    @michaelthorogood8524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing project! Thanks so much for sharing.

  • @TheUncleRuckus
    @TheUncleRuckus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excited to see you got the mill up and running. Looking forward to seeing some wood & metal chips getting cut on it. 👍👍 You could also use the punch to stamp you logo into a project too.

  • @kzookid2051
    @kzookid2051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's really interesting to watch how the punch & die are made; it's a process I've never seen before. Along with the Parser drill, it's a cool way to make your logo cutouts. Whether it's a project for something you need, or something that just seems like it'd be cool to try, your projects never fail to be great.

  • @jridges9956
    @jridges9956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That’s awesome. Can’t wait for these as a maker mark 👍

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic work, Neil! Nicely done!!! 😃
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @craig2963
    @craig2963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    On your file guide you should counter sink your bolt heads and use some button head Allen screws that will sit below the surface. That will allow you to get it in the vice all the way.

  • @Thoron_of_Neto
    @Thoron_of_Neto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wonderful and ingenious as always.

  • @SchysCraftCo.
    @SchysCraftCo. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very nice job. Turned out very well there. Hopefully you get great use out of it my friend. Keep making. God bless.

  • @derrickfeltner6634
    @derrickfeltner6634 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I too enjoy a bit of filing it's soothing and calms my nerves didn't know other people enjoyed it, thought I was weird lol. Loved the outcome. Great work

  • @ricmarsh7877
    @ricmarsh7877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You never cease to amaze my friend. Well done! 👏👏👏👏

  • @Produkt_R
    @Produkt_R 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    subtle way to add authenticity

  • @itsafineone8872
    @itsafineone8872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dude - Absolutely great vid. Elegant and functional. Than you.

  • @jessejohnson159
    @jessejohnson159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nicely done Sir! Learned a few things too. Now I'll need to figure out what memory's I lost to make room for the "D2" info PLUS all the rest I've seen and heard for the first time!

  • @racerroy1
    @racerroy1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes dude I sure liked that little excercise you undertook, pleasing to watch the end result and your satisfaction. Thanks for sharing.

  • @mumblbeebee6546
    @mumblbeebee6546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes, yes I enjoyed that very much! Nicely done!

  • @mohammedjunaidsulaiman444
    @mohammedjunaidsulaiman444 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. This is really amazing work. Really professional and the quality is impeccable. Well done.

  • @mariolinaviviano5968
    @mariolinaviviano5968 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice Jop Pask!! I love this project. Simply genius!

  • @R.Craig.Collins
    @R.Craig.Collins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is beyond my setup now, but I always learn useful information from your videos... thanks for sharing this great set of tools

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it! :)

  • @joshuadelisle
    @joshuadelisle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic. Information I will certainly be using in the future. Cheers J

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad it was helpful Joshua! :)

  • @johnsrabe
    @johnsrabe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love it. I am reasonably knowledgeable about woodworking, and can figure out most ww projects. But you are teaching me about metalworking, and I could see myself doing some of this. Thanks so much.

    • @corinkayaker
      @corinkayaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      one of the
      reasons I like Pask so much is he does not peg himself into any particular mold. He is a maker in the true sense of the word,

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Angelino, that's great to hear! :)

  • @elliotstokes6134
    @elliotstokes6134 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my favourite videos this year!!!

  • @thedistractedmaker
    @thedistractedmaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Turned out great!

  • @randallhamilton8583
    @randallhamilton8583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice work. That looks great.

  • @juneritchie2498
    @juneritchie2498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Always enjoyable to observe as you walk through your projects. Great result!

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks June - glad you enjoyed it! :)

  • @DanielH
    @DanielH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really nice work there. Human water jet 😃

  • @harindergill7221
    @harindergill7221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yet another great video, thanks.
    My only gripe is - You make it all look so easy!
    keep them coming, Stay Blessed.

  • @foesfly3047
    @foesfly3047 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have admirable skills and fabrication tools. And your friend down the road too!

  • @anneinfurna8528
    @anneinfurna8528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great Die work, and great Patience Filing!! Couple of things: If you were to drill a Hole for a Pin to locate the top Cutting Die -- it would save a Future loosening of the screw holding it , getting skewed, and possibly ruining the cutter edge. Also , I would have drilled and counter sunk some socket head cap screws for the base die, again Pinning it in place with at least 1/8" Pins, again to make it rigid, and to save all that welding and side screwing action. If you are determined to use that process, slightly angling the screws in a downward angle
    would cure that Lifting problem. Subscribed!

  • @JoaquimParis
    @JoaquimParis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're far beyond a DIY Maker..... a plastic artist in my opinion. Watch yours encourage me on starting my own. Long live your channel.

  • @BruceAUlrich
    @BruceAUlrich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really cool process!

  • @James-fs4rn
    @James-fs4rn ปีที่แล้ว

    👍 respect for the craftsmanship my friend!

  • @RebelForce8
    @RebelForce8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work. I enjoy watching these

  • @maxtester8824
    @maxtester8824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, you're such a genius!
    What a great video - again!

  • @krisalutius5177
    @krisalutius5177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was a very cool series of videos.

  • @shaunbarrickman6339
    @shaunbarrickman6339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best way to add a logo Ive seen! Nice work

  • @ProjectDIYOz
    @ProjectDIYOz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That’s some great work mate, it came up awesome. 😀

  • @jamesogorman3287
    @jamesogorman3287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very smart and simple!

  • @shanel4348
    @shanel4348 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    D2 is the AISI classification, and the equivalent UNS classification is T20812. High Chromium grade tool steel. Source: My trusty and timeless Machinery's Handbook (31st Edition)! Very good for tool and die work! Awesome video, subscribed!

    • @MrSunrise-
      @MrSunrise- ปีที่แล้ว

      This echos the first thing I thought. "High carbon" is faint praise for D2!

  • @pnwRC.
    @pnwRC. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Neat project, it was fun to watch!

  • @lexshizumdot2115
    @lexshizumdot2115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, as always.

  • @davidsowerby6972
    @davidsowerby6972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so clean!

  • @Smallathe
    @Smallathe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool project and logo making!

  • @thechainedmonkey
    @thechainedmonkey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very clever. Nice work!

  • @buildingstuffaustralia360
    @buildingstuffaustralia360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That has come out great.

  • @Vormulac1
    @Vormulac1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic as always, very effective!

  • @andresilva8444
    @andresilva8444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant, Neil!

  • @MrDottorzeta
    @MrDottorzeta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done Pask.

  • @oneshotme
    @oneshotme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks great!!
    Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

  • @dragade101
    @dragade101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant!

  • @derekrobertson1548
    @derekrobertson1548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always excellent work. Also love Your photos they are amazing, very professional. Wish I had access to some of the machinery you use, even just for a couple of days. Ever thought about making some basic tools and selling on your website. Things like brass setup blocks, set squares. Then stick your own logo on them.

  • @TomMakeHere
    @TomMakeHere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a great video
    Good tool, and fantastic results

  • @adrianwilliams763
    @adrianwilliams763 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome project. Love it

  • @KayDubs77
    @KayDubs77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's really neat!

  • @shaharsdechen2537
    @shaharsdechen2537 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    GREAT STUFF!! keep em coming

  • @andrewkoehler5386
    @andrewkoehler5386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Outstanding video! Well done. I believe the “D” in D2 Steel has to do with the composition.
    While it’s true it’s often used in die making, the D indicates that it’s a “Chromium Based” High Carbon Steel.
    Keep up the great work!

    • @zogworth
      @zogworth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its high carbon too. If you look k110 you should be able to find a data sheet.
      I personally much prefer k455 but different strokes for different folks!

  • @soolenia9844
    @soolenia9844 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn now that’s dedication the way you filed them by hand

  • @jimmylovesbikes
    @jimmylovesbikes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    jaw dropping fantastic

  • @I_SuperHiro_I
    @I_SuperHiro_I ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching a craftsman build is rather calming.

  • @mr.hermitsquid2694
    @mr.hermitsquid2694 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    super cool! I learned a ton. thanks!

  • @andrewgalbreath2101
    @andrewgalbreath2101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Super cool as always! I love how you always make all the accompanying stuff for all your big projects, like the Parser drill in this case.

  • @williamkey678
    @williamkey678 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hi, I'm am ex Toolmaker and when I was in my trade we used to use Copper Sulphate for marking out, it can be bought on the net as in crystal form and mixed with distilled water, it actually makes up a light blue liquid and when applied turns a copper colour (it is recommended to mix the crystals with battery acid, but this is hard to get hold of) and the water mix is safer anyway.
    You simply need to clean the face to be marked out with emery cloth and then not touch it with your fingers again until after the copper sulphate has dried. Your scribe marks will stay clear until you you have finished your filing and machining.

  • @jdmccorful
    @jdmccorful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice work, thanks.

  • @VORONM
    @VORONM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a grand project!

    • @PaskMakes
      @PaskMakes  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! :)

  • @SethKotta
    @SethKotta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That looks so cool

  • @GulliJ
    @GulliJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely fantastic way of made logos. Very nice congratulations 👍🇲🇫

  • @582ChevelleSS
    @582ChevelleSS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing work

  • @Xman11ish
    @Xman11ish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nothing compared with you! You are at another level!

  • @bridges5659
    @bridges5659 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's great ! And Luke has all the works. 👍

  • @beakittelscherz5419
    @beakittelscherz5419 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very sweet Project😁👌

  • @TheJerad1
    @TheJerad1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice make, and a cool marker! I have never seen a marker like that. I searched and found that it's an
    "Empire long tip black marker" available only in Austrailia!! You have a lot of patience with a file my friend! Rock on!

    • @gustavbarnes9929
      @gustavbarnes9929 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, I was looking for that marker too, thanks

  • @cenizasfenix
    @cenizasfenix ปีที่แล้ว

    Esos pequeñitos detalles que hacen de toda una gran hazaña un lindo gustito!

  • @jimburnsjr.
    @jimburnsjr. ปีที่แล้ว

    beautiful video, thank you

  • @randelcross
    @randelcross 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great work Neil!! Brought back memories and thoughts of my grandfather, I never knew him very well because of geography, however, he was a tool and die maker. (probably learned his craft during the war (WW2) effort.) As I was watching this I wondered how he would have fabricated it. (??) You got-er-done!

  • @joshwalker5605
    @joshwalker5605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol @ the boingy sounds. Great video as usual, thanks!

  • @lanceroark6386
    @lanceroark6386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That makers mark being brass is awesome.

  • @GMetalArt
    @GMetalArt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work 👍

  • @shanebrbich5698
    @shanebrbich5698 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You go alright for a chippy!
    👍

  • @1punkmonkey
    @1punkmonkey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a legend