@@Renegade1127 But you still can’t legitimise your interpretation of ancient British common law on British streets, or any other country’s streets, for that matter.
I've commented this on the original video and I want to repeat it here: did you notice how he is able to have a normal (to an extent) conversation, back and forth, with the male officer, while not letting EVER the female one even finish her answers to his own questions? He goes from being arrogant, entitled, ignorant , dismissive, rude and aggressive to completeley toning it down and being just a bit upset and frustrated. It's disgusting and I think that says it all about this person.
"Am I free to go?" "No, you might be a witness" "But, am I free to go?" "Why aren't you answering me, am I free to go?" "Am I free to go!?" "No" "Why aren't you answering me, am I free to go!?" ...MAN, how THICK can you be.
I'd rather say that he knows exactly what he is doing. I bet that he is attempting to push the officers far enough to make them make a wrong move in his eyes so that he can then play the victim card. Oftentimes there's method in a madness.
He's using the broken record technique used when interviewing (ie seeking the truth of a matter - nobody uses interrogation any more!) where by asking the same question over and over again you hope to wear the other person down.
People with a combative attitude like this man will find that trouble follows them around. They don’t realise that it’s not a series of unfortunate events, it’s their own response to situations causing the problems.
The guy is being a pillock, basically. It's also noticeable that when the female police were talking to them, he wouldn't allow them to explain, and he talked over them, but when the male police came over, he let them finish. Police here are allowed to detain people for up to 24 hours without charge if they have a reasonable suspicion (which can be extended if i remember right). All that guy's talk of unlawful detention just proves he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
Or "I'm an american so your country's laws in your country's territory does not apply to me, but my american privileges that apply to me in the USA also apply to me in your country and overrules your sovereignty".
There are people who spent years in jail after being framed by the Police who whine less than this guy! You're in the UK shut the F up and respect the fact that the Police need to do their job.
I too am a retired police officer. What's very clear is that this guy is deliberately baiting the police for a negative reaction, unnecessarily tying up 4 busy officers in the hope of finding a good YT post. What he didn't expect was the professionalism of the UK police who didn't 'own' him but totally controlled him. Not only did he fail in his attempt to wind them up, he embarrassed himself and the US for which he is an ambassador.
I just want to say, because we rarely get the chance, thank you for your service. In the rare times I've had to meet a police officer I've always been impressed by the service's professionalism. I've lived in a country where the rule of law was tenuous at best, and it was sheer hell for everyone.
@@iainarthur7713 The police can put you in custody to "cool off" this cooling can be from 24 hours to 72 hours (depending on the country) after that they will let you go, but before that you will fill your pants with fear, "I'm stuck in a foreign country and they do not respect MY US rights"
@@iainarthur7713in this case Under section 136 of the Mental Health Act 1983, a person can be detained for up to 72 hours if they are found to be suffering from mental disorders in a public place and in immediate need of care or control :) In the UK, the police can hold a person if they are considered a necessary witness in a criminal investigation. However, the specific duration for which a person can be held as a witness is not clearly defined and is subject to the circumstances of the case. The Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (PACE) and its associated codes of practice provide guidelines for the detention of individuals, including witnesses, during the course of a criminal investigation. Under PACE, the police have the authority to detain a person for questioning if they are believed to have information that is relevant to the investigation. The duration of this detention is typically determined based on the progress of the investigation and the necessity of the person's testimony. However, the general principle is that the detention should be for no longer than is necessary to conduct the questioning. It's important to note that the rights of individuals held as witnesses, including the duration of their detention, are subject to legal safeguards and oversight to ensure that their rights are respected and that the detention is justified and proportionate to the circumstances of the case. For the most current and detailed information on the detention of individuals as witnesses in the UK, it is advisable to refer directly to the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (PACE) and its associated codes of practice.
@@iainarthur7713 Probably something along the lines of "reasonable suspicion". If it is suspected you are withholding information you can be as guilty as the perpetrator ! (depending on what the circumstance is).
If you are on the premises where a serious crime has been committed, the police gave the right to detain you on the premises until they have spoken to everyone about the crime. This man is an example of why many people in the UK find Americans arrogant and unpleasant to be around. He is in England, not America, and he can't go around England throwing his weight around like that.
She explained it to him over and over again. You could have seen something or you could be an accomplice to the main suspect. Also, as I tell my children; don’t ask questions if you’re not gonna listen to the answer.
@LostsTVandRadio 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Oh my God Thank you for that. That has to be one of the best yet concise comments I have ever seen. Lost to the uneducated and so his fan base but a literary gem. 👍👍👍👍👍
Agree 100%. Not just an insufferably arrogant yank, but a predictably ignorant one, too. There's a hilarious video of a similar character trying to wind up an incredibly-patient member of the Gardai somewhere in rural Ireland, something about the yank's hire car. It does NOT go well for the yank, who ends up totally flummoxed and confused, while the Guard shrugs and walks away with a gentle smile on his face and the car keys in his hand ...
@@gerardflynn7382 Sovereign citizen or whatever they call themselves LOL, IIRC the yank was saying he was a 'whatever' but the Guard looked at his passport and said 'No you're not, you're a yank'. I have to wonder why they think they can get away with that sort of $h!t in both GB and the Republic. They must think that our cops are a 'soft touch' compared to their own, just because they don't see a gun at their hip ... I'll bet they each felt differently after suffering the consequences of their toddler-like behaviour ... which they had brought _entirely_ onto themselves. AMERICANS BEWARE! When visiting these islands - whichever you visit - our police services - whatever their uniform or name - are much better trained than yours _in all sorts of ways_ , many of which will come as a surprise to you ...
@@Bill32H-it3sv oh I've personally experience bad policing, had police be violent towards me unlawfully. I've had much more positive experiences than bad ones though so I base my comment on that.
She's not aggressive cuz she has normal police training. 3-4 years. And they don't get trained like they're military. They get trained TO SERVE and protect. Also, they barely have to worry about guns at all.
I’m also pretty sure that of those 3-4 years training, there’s also a lot of time spent training de-escalation. This part never seems to be worked on in the US, where everyone seems on edge/elevated all the time.
It's pretty obvious. His camera and footage from his point of view is in his possession theirs isn't. It's not hard is it. There are enough encounters with US police that have been filmed that illustrate the point.
@@georgechickful But he ISN'T in the US is he. He is in the UK, a part of Europe, and the vast vast majority of European coppers are NOT going to act like seppo police.
@@MayYourGodGoWithYou There are endless clips of US police misbehaving on camera, NOT from their bodycams, showing a different narrative than they paint. This is why so many recommend recording the police as a default. Bruised ego is why they get so arsey when they're recorded. The UK police aren't angel's either.
His phrases are just like Trump uses when standing at a podium talking to his MAGA 'base'... Repetitive and monotonous, with NO clarity or reasoning behind them! This guy is doing as much PR for the US as Trump did around the world which was to 'make it a laughing stock'. 😎 😅 😂 🤣
Obviously, because he's in toddler mode. He doesn't want conversation he WANTS what HE WANT and he WANTS it THIS INSTANT, screw other people or that he might actually have been helping an actual criminal. He does not know the other guy. He does not know if the other guy is maybe the person in question and thus, by siding with a suspect, he has made himself suspicious :'D
@iljacvetkov8312 You must make allowances for some people. Don't you realise he's from the bestest and most important country in the World. (USA - 'Merica?)
British police don't ordinarily carry firearms. They tend to be more polite and very well-trained. If the officer says you're detained, then you're detained. You have no US Constitutional rights in a foreign country.
Yes maybe... but You can be arrested if a Police officer has reasonable grounds/suspicion that you may have committed a crime (which I think is pretty much the same in the U.S.). But detaining, without being formally arrested is more a thin line. At least from what can make sense of from the UK laws around arrest and detaining. There cannot be any psychical contact made to detain (which they didn't do in this video): "unless exercising a power of arrest, a Police Officer has no greater powers than a member of the public does to detain another person". I think the Police officers didn't want to arrest them, because they didn't have strong enough grounds to do so...as that would led to an illegal arrest. "Most cases of such illegal ‘detention’ by Police Officers involve physical contact such as the case of Wood v DPP [2008] EWHC 1056 which once again involved an Officer taking hold of a person by the arm in order to question, but not arrest them (even if the questioning was in order for the Officer to form a view as to whether or not the person should be arrested). Unlawful physical contact by a Police Officer would constitute assault and battery, even if no injury as such was sustained, **whilst an Officer detaining a person without touching them and without the threat of force (actual or implied) or, by blocking a person’s route of ‘escape’ from a confined space, then this would amount to false imprisonment, and likewise give rise to a claim for compensation"**. So its a fine line from what I understand. This guy actually had fair grounds to question the Police for being detained, especially as he wasn't formally arrested. You have to be aware of your rights and abuses of power. In saying that if you are innocent, I guess you just help with their enquires and be on your way. 🤷♂
To be fair thats not just americans but other foreigners/ immigrants as well. They behave like they are in their homecountry and we have to adhere to his countries laws and costums...Seen it all
That guy was being as non helpful as possible. He was pointing out the color of his skin several times for some reason. Stating he knows he was illegally detained when informed he was not. The police was behaving admirably with godlike patience. Well done British police!
You can be arrested if a Police officer has reasonable grounds/suspicion that you may have committed a crime (which I think is pretty much the same in the U.S.). But detaining, without being formally arrested is more a thin line. At least from what can make sense of from the UK laws around arrest and detaining. There cannot be any psychical contact made to detain (which they didn't do in this video): "unless exercising a power of arrest, a Police Officer has no greater powers than a member of the public does to detain another person". I think the Police officers didn't want to arrest them, because they didn't have strong enough grounds to do so...as that would led to an illegal arrest. "Most cases of such illegal ‘detention’ by Police Officers involve physical contact such as the case of Wood v DPP [2008] EWHC 1056 which once again involved an Officer taking hold of a person by the arm in order to question, but not arrest them (even if the questioning was in order for the Officer to form a view as to whether or not the person should be arrested). Unlawful physical contact by a Police Officer would constitute assault and battery, even if no injury as such was sustained, whilst an Officer detaining a person without touching them and without the threat of force (actual or implied) or, by blocking a person’s route of ‘escape’ from a confined space, then this would amount to false imprisonment, and likewise give rise to a claim for compensation". So its a fine line from what I understand. This guy actually had fair grounds to question the Police for being detained, especially as he wasn't formally arrested. You have to be aware of your rights and abuses of power. In saying that if you are innocent, I guess you just help with their enquires and be on your way. 🤷♂
@@gooner_duke2756 But there is also a point in which the police HAVE to do their job and investigate, they tried to ask the man questions to gather more information but her started getting defensive and being unhelpful which causes a problem becuase it starts making him suspicious. Its kind of like how when you know the police have sufficient evidenace against you and you say "i need my lawyer". If this guy genuinely did nothing wrong then he should have just complied and given them information and rather then being locked up for 20 hours in detention he could have been free in 5-10 minutes. His defensive and unruly behaviour is what got him sent to detention. Thing in the uk are alot different to the US, most people in the UK would agree this guy got what he deserved. We dont really care if your innocent and get unlawfully detained if your acting like a complete moron. General rule in the UK if your innocent and the police have questions just help them out they arnt going to put you in jail for being cooperative. Unless of course you arnt innocent.
As soon as he tries to leave, that’s grounds for suspicion I’d say. Or just being so uncooperative could be again seen as suspicious. He could have been well away if he just talked to them like a normal person rather than a knob!
He's not even letting her talk and asking the same question over and over even know she's answerd him every time. He's baiting her. Their just trying to do their job 😞
I'm Dutch and I love these indirect British ways of saying something that sound kind, polite and respectful, but actually they're being savage. Over here if we say "I appreciate your frustration", we literally mean we respect your frustration and try to take it into account. When greeting someone: You alright? (sir/mate/dear)"/ "How you doing?" - Brit/American: "Hey, how are you" - Dutch: "Uhm... I'm fine, thanks"
YES. I was going to say this is British way of saying shut up. It sounds polite but it isn't its kind of like understatements. they're very good at understating things too.
@@KevinKickChannelThe correct response to 'Alright?' is 'Alright?'. You're not really supposed to answer the implied question. It's the modern version of 'How do you do?' the correct response to which is 'How do you do?'
I haven't had much experience with police (I'm now 70). I moved from England to Denmark in '78 and soon after got stopped while carrying a sofa home at night. They happily accepted my explanation that it wasn't stolen but was good enough to sleep on even if it didn't have any legs. Another time (after I'd learned to speak Danish) I was stopped on the way home from a party at around 2am. Asked if there were drugs at the party I told the truth: I didn't know - not seen anything suspicious but that I probably not have known anyway having no experience. Result: they drove me home. No ID required. The point being: all very polite and friendly.
I had a similar experience UK, was christmas 2016, walking home at night with a roll of christmas wrapping in a bag, to be fair it did look like a baseball bat from afar, got stopped by police, they thought maybe I be going around trying to break in and steal, but after they stopped me, they saw what it was and let me go on, no guns drawn, no threats of death, just a okay then, merry christmas. Thats why the British police are better than the American Police
That’s what most Americans do where ever they go. I live in the UK, but have I’ve spent a lot of time in Germany and Italy, sadly this is standard behaviour for Americans. They expect Europeans to pander to them and they never bother to learn about how things are done differently here.
They come to Ireland and do the same thing, great video showing some prat from the US doing that down Cork way, how the garda kept his cool without actually bursting out laughing is a mystery. They think they own the world (literally in some cases) and that their laws are the de facto laws everywhere else.
This video makes me feel proud of the British police force. The two blokes were kept there until the police finished their investigation without any threats or force. The American tried his hardest to rile them up but British decency won the day
I read a brilliant description of these 'sovereign citizen/libertarian/entitled' type people recently in tweet (or whatever they're called nowadays) by a guy called John Spaulding. He called them 'House cats'. Because "they are convinced of their fierce independence while utterly dependent on a system they don't appreciate or understand".
House cats understand a little bit. Adult cats meow primarily to communicate with humans. It is fairly rare for cats to meow at each other. (Also, adult humans meow primarily to communicate with cats. It is fairly rare for humans to meow at each other)
In pretty much all of Europe, if an officer tells you not to leave a locale for any reason, you don't. In situations such as this, you are to follow the instructions. And if you're a potential suspect, no, you are not allowed to use the bathroom and flush potentially incriminating evidence.
As far as I can hear, this, it is an American that got detained by a brittish police officer. He acts as if he is in the States. They told him why but he doesnt want to understand. He is not educating them. He is rude and obnoctious and impatient.
Or of course possibly having something to hide from the police officer that might incriminate him on what the police suspect him of doing. The police officers did their job well imo in dealing with this entitled American by keeping him detained while conducting their inquiry. It would have been interesting to see more of this video on what happened next.
He was doing his best to get away because he was actually guilty of punching a woman in the face. He was arrested but later released without charge because the woman decided against pressing charges.
He knows full well he can't go to the bathroom - he might try to hide or flush something in the toilet. This is a typical example of the arrogant American. Full marks to our police and the calm way they handled the situation.
If police suspected that he had something on him that he would hide or flush in the toilet then they could have either arrested him or told him that he was detained for the purpose of a search. Since neither of those happened it's hard to see why he shouldn't go to the bathroom.
@@barneylaurance1865 No that is not how it works, silly. The incident JUST happened. They do not even know what they would be searching for. That is exactly why they are investigating. So they would also be able to determine what sort of evidence they were trying to secure. And until all of that is out of the way, they can not just simply have him walk away. And you just have heard it was an assault. You cannot just "search" for things like DNA under the fingernails from a fight. But that stuff can be washed away. And you cannot lawfully secure any such evidence before getting the paperwork ready and enough suspicion to warrant that you tag a person an actual suspect. Here's some food for thought: Protocols exist for good reasons most of the time. If they didn't have reasons to handle it this way, then they sure as heck would not bother to handle it this way. After all it's fairly bothersome to say no to a person.
@@KxNOxUTA You can't just search for things like DNA under fingernails, but if you suspect someone was in a fight then you can immediately arrest them for assault / actual bodily harm / grievous bodily harm depending how bad the fight was. Then you have 24 hours to collect evidence before you have to charge them or let them go. You still can't just arbitrarily detain people.
@@barneylaurance1865 They didn't arbitrarily detain people. These people were at a scene of a crime and its fair that they detain them until such time they narrow their scope. It would be incredibly stupid to let someone leave a scene of crime.
@@SriGutta If the police think it's stupid to let someone leave the scene of a crime there's an established way to stop them leaving - it's called arrest. And for good reason there are a lot of rules about when the police may and may not make an arrest.
I visited Britain (I am German) about 10 years ago. My best friend and I walked around one of the richest parts of London, looking at the amazing cars on the streets. After about 30 minutes we got stopped by a cop on a bike (it was summer). He asked who we were, where we were from etc. We both were scared shitless because we thought we did something illegal. He was very polite and calm and asked for our passports and to wait with him till his colleagues arrived. We did so(around 5 minutes) and were very nervous. His colleagues arrived and explained that recently there had been a lot of break ins into and thefts of expensive cars in this area and there were young men seen near the crime scenes. So we were questioned a bit more, after explaining they asked us to be careful and maybe leave this part as some of the rich folks were uneasy with strangers walking around (never mind it was a public street). It was clear as day that he was annoyed at these people and told us that he couldn't and wouldn't force us to leave, but it would make his life way easier. Of course we left afterwards (still shaking) but I have to say, it was overall pleasant, non hostile and very calm and reasonable. At no point did the police give off a threatening vibe or even think of drawing one of their tools (the cop on the bike didn't even carry a gun as far as I could tell, he was dressed in normal clothes (shorts and polo shirt) and riding around on his bike, so probably "undercover"). Two years ago, I was in the US and was in a routine police check (as a passenger) and the cops always kept their hand on their holster and the vibe overall was very tense and unpleasant... It couldn't have been more different!
Imagine being thought of as a criminal and (defacto) forced out of an area because some rich people were annoyed by youre mere existence and then licking the boots of the guys that were used to enforce this. These cops would have beaten you to pulp, had one of the rich guys told them to...
It’s a subtle hint of: “If your unwilling to comply without use of force, we will not only have the right to start using force, but see no other option then to do so” This guy filming the police sounds like a immature brat. He is not a grown man at all
I have been a Police officer in both the UK ( Exeter,Devon) and in Canada ( Toronto) in the 70’s & 80’s. At both Police Colleges we were often trained in “mock arrest or not” scenarios where our patience,tact,understanding( & sometimes our sense of humour !)were being tested…SOFTLY,SOFTLY was ALWAYS the key factor. De-escalation was ALWAYS the primary goal UNTIL the situation called for an arrest…BUT only when enough evidence has been gathered,,,or on REASONABLE & PROBABLE Grounds to make an arrest. In EVERY arrest the accused is handcuffed,read their rights,searched & taken to the Police station where they are brought in front of the Custody Supervisor who is briefed on the reason. The Supervisor then asks the accused if they have anything to say ,notes are taken from their replies then ,if required,taken for an interview or placed in a cell. Any property taken from them is secured . The accused also has fingerprints & photo taken (mugshot) and allowed to make a phone call. I have experienced countless situations where my training was invaluable from drunks who were helped into a taxi home…to struggling to arrest a drunk driver who was high on drugs AND booze…then the one time I assisted in the arrest of a murder suspect where I was the FIRST cop on the scene….Many of the these memories still haunt me and I’m going to be 80 years of age later this year…( I also served in the Royal Marines prior to my Police Service & so I am a very PROUD Decorated Military & Police Veteran
the weirdest thing is 90% of the time if the police talk to me (which is very very rare in the uk) im interested in helping them, because like, you know, why wouldnt i want to help the police haha, i kinda like peace and order.
I once heard someone explain to another person: "...and then one day I went into the city, and I was looking for this place and I couldn't find it. I saw a cop and I thought 'oh, a cop! He'll be able to help me!' and then it hit me. _THIS is what they mean by rehabilitation_ Normal people see cops as helpful people. All those years my reaction to seeing a cop would have been 'hide it' even if I didn't have nothing to hide, but seeing cops as someone who will help is what normal is! It doesn't for everybody, but for me, jail worked."
Agree - totally - I am one of the 95% of the population they are here to help - not one of the 5% who ruin things for the rest of us. Thank you, police.
Brit here. I've been stopped by the police once as i matched a description of a recent break in. They stopped me. Told me what they were going to do and if i consented. I did. They searched me. I helped them locate some of the "hidden" pockets in my coat and then they got a call through on the radio saying they caught the person. I was told I was free to go, they apologised for the inconvenience and gave me a leaflet about what happened, why it happened and who i needed to call if i wanted to complain or give feedback. British Police are awesome. Also, German police are pretty cool to. Not me, but my brother went to Germany for the football. He said people were doing Hitler impressions, etc, and the police were so chill asking people to be polite and not be disrespectful in their country.
German police being chill is because Germans also do this on occasion - but more to emphasise, not to mock others. So police couldn’t do anything, but they _did_ intervene politely, which is basically the way police interacts with people in Germany. If the people had done Hitler salutes ore used certain _slogans_ during their impressions, the situation would have been different: Using „Symbols of anti-constitutional organisations“, such as symbols and slogans of the Nazi party (and some others) are crimes in Germany (a reasonable limitation of free speech, given the German history), punishable by up to three years or a fine according to §86a StGB (the German Criminal Code). - It is possible that they would have just warned them, due to the event. It would be near impossible to process the whole bunch of people when actively on duty to prevent violence and as a show of force, and probably not enough resources to investigate every minor crime.
As a UK officer myself, I really don't care if people record me. We deal with people like this all the time. Who think they know the law better than us, or misquote law or even quote law that doesn't even apply in that situation. I've seen instances of people quoting "Maritime law" on a road traffic stop.... why would laws relating to the navigation of ships on the sea apply on a road traffic stop of a car? And yes, we can stop people making use of facilities, ESPECIALLY when said facility is a crime scene anyway and has been "cordoned off". Members of the public who may or may not be involved in the case walking through the scene only disrupts and in some cases destroys evidence which can collapse a whole case.
In Spaim we have a law where people openly disrespecting police officers (using swear words and being purposedly obstructive) could get you fined, don't you have something similar?
@@TheBayzent There's the public order act, but a high court ruling some years back set case law that meant we were expected to be more tolerant of it, as such you'd be expected to take a fair bit of abuse and swearing before you arrested someone for it.
I'm European (not British), but police is basically the same across the continent. They're here to serve the people. They get paid out of our taxes. And they're here to help us. Never had bad experiences with the police, regardless of where in Europe. I was in London a month ago and got lost, saw an officer, went to them, and they helped me find where I wanted to go. Also the reason the police are nice here is that we're also nice to them. You won't see this kind of behaviour towards police by Europeans. Respect towards others and authority gets you very far in life. I can recommend two videos on youtube to watch, "(ENGLISH CAPTIONS) Finnish police chasing a half naked drunk bicyclist" and "Norwegian Police Funniest Arrest Ever".
They handled the situation well. Some of the nicest police can be found in Germany and France from my experience. I had an encounter with German police called for too much noise during a party. They said: "guys turn the music down or we will stay and start dancing, and nobody wants to see that".
@@f.w.7843 Being French, it is not the experience that I have had with French police. They can be very unfriendly, above all depending on your look, your ethnical or social origin or the area where they are operating. The laws are very different from US or the UK and give the authority to the French police to check your identity and make physical contact without any suspicion. The usage of "outrage" is also frequent. The only fact of not being cooperating with the police is in itself ground for being arrested. Which means that if you have nothing to do with a crime but that you are commenting on them being unfair to someone being arrested, they can and will detain you as well.
As a Brit, anytime the police have talked to me (which isn't often) they have always been super nice and respectful and in return I have always tried my best to help them as much as I can. Which I think is very common here, while sure there will always be an officer having a bad day or a few bad apples. I think as a whole there is a lot of respect towards the police over here.
I was witness to a horrific road accident, and these guys were heroes in my mind. Sad to see what else they have to deal with in the form of this knobhead.
I'm a French man who lived three years in Scotland. Officers were always nice to me, and I've always been nice to them (ok, I might have been a wee bit cheeky here and there, but it was more banter than aggression, still showing a willingness to cooperation). For all of them I've met them (about 20-30 times, they've been helpful, sincere, non-threatening, and kind). I'm saying it's the case for all the coppers I met, but it's my experience. They treat you with respect, you send it back, and everything is gonna be fine, even if you're drunk above all your arse.
@wibbleroo Basic, common, decent, normal behavior. Unfortunately, a lot of people throughout the World are woefully lacking in any of these attributes.
I did get "stopped" by them once although I had already pulled over to take my contact lenses out,. They did question me a bit aggressively and asked me what I'd been up to that night in a way that I was expecting him to tell me what he thought I'd done. Apparently a car matching mine's description had been spotted driving 'suspicously' near some houses (didn't realise that was a crime lol), fortunately they let me go before long after they realised I was clearly not this suspicous driver they were looking for. I don't have a problem with the police in general but the experience did make me more wary of them.
The guy was arrogant. He talks over the PC not listening. She'd read his rights if was being arrested. He was getting the wrong end of the stick he was a potential witness. Chill. Brits in the US of A even polite get abuse from police officers or the immigration folks at the airport. The American made a pillock of himself.
I remember when a cop in Toronto took into custody an unarmed man who drove his car into people on a sidewalk without a single shot being fired, and it exploded in the US media. In one article I read an American who trains cops criticize the police officer for those actions of first ascertaining whether the suspect was armed, then taking him into custody. That trainer of American cops suggested it was the cop's duty to shoot at the unarmed man before making sure he was unarmed in order to "safeguard" the public. So, yes, in the US there is at least one "professional" training cops to use excessive and deadly force, who would have ensured there was an unnecessary death that day. I noticed at some point when I looked up that article again that the trainer got them to remove his name from the article. If you want an example of what is wrong with policing in the US vs the rest of the developed world, that is a good example.
The main problem in the US is that virtually any imbecile over there can get a gun and ammo, thanks to the excessive lobbying from the NRA. Cops over there need to be extra wary, because they absolutely cannot tell whether or not someone is actually armed and therefore have to assume the worst case. In order to deal with this problem they need to get rid of the Second Amendment (which won't happen any time soon thanks to the NRA) adjust their laws to gain control over who can get a gun, etc., introduce a transition period during which anyone either can turn their weapons in without incurring any sort of penalty or apply for a permit (including a background check, providing a substantive reason on why that person needs the weapons in question and after successfully taking an exam of competence). Then you don't have to equip schools, etc. with metal detectors nor to staff them with armed guards to deal with any psychopaths or the likes who are on a killing spree. Instead of attempting to mitigate the symptoms, the US government would be extremely well-advised to deal with this problem at its root!
What a dick. In the UK innocent bystanders would regard it as their responsibility to assist the police in their enquiries & that is what the police are expecting of him. Any of us who have been near a crime know that’s what we would do. If we don’t do that voluntarily then they have a right to ask him to stay. Our model of policing by consent holds a presupposition that British citizens and visitors will assist the police in their enquires.
Notice how after a certain point they just stop talking and just stare off into the distance? They know it's pointless talking to him, but he's still not going anywhere...
The police officer having her arms down is no doubt from her training. In a previous job of mine, we were taught that even raising your hands in front of yourself can be perceived as aggression. So we were taught ways to handle escalated situations all without raising your hands to grab people.
The first police officer walked away because she was about to lose her temper. I remember as a parent being told that to do that when toddlers push your buttons.
I've been asked by Police to stay in the area after an incident so that they could question me to see if I had any relevant information. Fortunately, on one occasion I did and helped resolve a traffic collision. Hanging around for a few minutes didn't adversely affect me. A bit of patience and politeness never causes a problem. But if you want to be antagonistic then you will cause your own problems.
Exactly this, and if he had kept his gob shut, he would have been on his way fairly quickly but at the end I counted five police officers dealing with him, two of them sergeants. No wonder he ended up arrested.
This unfortunately is (currently) the difference in attitudes to our respective Police forces. His attitude could also cause the officers to be suspicious of him, again due to the officers usual experiences.
This sounds like he was given a script and was told _"If you ask these questions, they won't be able to do anything and you can just go!"_ but it's not working. How many times did he ask: _"Am I free to go?"_ _"Am I being detained? On what grounds"_ _"What's the description of the suspect?"_ And when the cops answer all the questions and his script doesn't work, he just tries again...and again...and again, as if the cops will finally let him go if he repeats it enough times.
this is a "karren" thing too. repeating stuff doesn't make things more true and repeating questions wont change the given answers. but the US-stereotypes "arrogant" and "ignorant" have to come from somewhere ^^
@@somersaultcurse He's trying to get them to slip up and say something that he can then turn on them to make it appear as though he's in the right. What he clearly fails to realise is how painfully unaware of local laws he is. I'm willing to bet he's the kind of guy thinking american laws applies everywhere just by virtue of him being american.
These are actually questions I've seen American lawyers recommend people ask, if they're detained by the police. ...In America. The intention is that you don't say anything without a lawyer present, because you might incriminate yourself and you need to know what the matter is about, so you can determine with your lawyer what to admit to, if anything. The "am I being detained" line is to ensure whether you're an actual suspect or not, and his insistence that he doesn't fit the description would be to ensure everyone knows he's detained baselessly. In the US, it can be devastating to be detained, because even if you're not a flight-risk, you'll have to be bailed out to, say, keep your job, or you'll be detained until the trial. So... in the end, I think, it comes down to trust in the judicial system.
@Sadlander2 Name and shame him. On second thoughts, the deluded, privileged idiot would probably enjoy his extra fifteen minutes of notoriety. He obviously isn't ashamed of his behavioUr otherwise he wouldn't have uploaded it.
actually his credibility disappeared from the moment he started to ask questions and by doing so preventing officers of solving a crime. The melody of arrogance, half-knowledge and over-estimation of himself did the rest.
He never had any and the i am educated line destroyed everything completly. I would arrest him, for insulting an officer and for hindering an investigation.
you could have stopped at " I would never go to the U.S " Though I have been twice to Texas, and damn, they ain't kidding about the guns, place I stayed at had 13 guns, 4 of them were shotguns, and I wasn't staying in central Texas, I was staying in a remote part of Texas, like the arse end.... okay now I understand the need for shotguns
I mean, that's a very broad generalisation. There are plenty of thin-skinned authoritarian bullies in the police who like nothing more than the chance to push around members of the public. In fact, you might recall that the MET has been plagued with credible allegations of racism, sexism, corruption and violence. You may even recall that some MET officers have been found guilty of rape and murder.
I heard a story many years ago a man went up to a house to ask for directions in Texas and git shit through the letterbox for "trespassing" ..these Americans are an unfriendly bunch, I wouldn't go to America if it was the last country in existence. I'd rather drown or be nuked than go to America. 😂
3:03 The law is very straight forward. If you're told by a police officer to stay put, you stay put. You can shove your amendments or whatever where the sun don't shine.
If that really had to use the bathroom or piss himself he could just ask the police if he could use a toilet in front of a male officer to ensure he didn't get rid of any evidence.
@@liamwarner5749The issue here appears to be that he was attempting to enter an active crime scene to use the bathroom. This would likely still not be allowed as it is standard procedure to preserve the scene in case forensic investigation may be required at least initially while determining the precise nature of the incident.
@@user-ed7et3pb4o The Police always have guns on them here (Canberra, Australia). In fact the only time I see a gun is in the holsters of police officers buying their coffee at my local cafe.
@@JoaoMonty This is the only applicable answer. Anyone from any other country would assist, this jerk is just being a US jerk. There is a valid reason for the stereotype.
yes actually, that's his video, so he only show what he wants, and not the beginning. I can't trust this. That's the same we got in France in "yellow jackets" incidents. People were only showing the charges of the police, but not the peoples throwing stones on them. that's lies, imoa.
It’s very annoying when someone asks a question and then interrupts while the answer is being given with another question that has nothing to do with the first question. People have become so confrontational. My guess is that the guy filming and doing all the talking is an American based on his behaviour
His belligerence, is putting himself under suspicion, that he may have been involved in someway in the alleged crime,. I'd have arrested him immediately for "Wasting Police time"
The guy recording seems to be an awful person. If they would not interrupt the officers the whole time and just listen it would be so much easyer for everyone involved. But no... the one recording is provoking, interrupting and acting rude the whole time.
Nothing irritates me more than people who complain about how long something is taking, if you’re complaining to a person instead of letting them do their job then it’s going to take longer, you’re making the situation worse 🤷🏻♂️
If you can't respect another country's law or institutions, then don't bother visiting. The police officers have remained calm and reasonable, whereas this fool has shown his self worth.
He was an American, you could tell that straight away. He was acting with the ego Americans have. The Police Officers have explained the situation clearly a huge number of times. No one is as stupid as he is because he did not understand what they told him. I would have arrested him because of his stupidity and wasting Police Time.
If he wasn’t a prick and was actually concerned about using a bathroom, he would ask about alternative bathrooms to use or possible solutions instead of badgering the officers with nonsense
My Dad was an armed policeman in the UK in the 1970s and 80s (through IRA threats, policing Greenham Common, the miners' strikes etc). He said the ONLY time he had to fire a gun during his work was because his resident dog handler had a heart attack and the poor panicked dog went into "defence mode" for his handler, so they had to shoot the dog in order to give first aid. It still haunted my dad 30yrs later that he'd had to make that decision. I much prefer having coppers that have a conscience in that way- the purpose of the police should always be first and foremost to "protect and serve" (!) communities, not act like prison guards for entire neighbourhoods.
@@theotherside8258 The fact my dad was still wondering if he did the right thing 30yrs later said a lot to me... he genuinely cared, he wanted to do the right thing, but equally he only had seconds to make a decision. That's the sort of people I want as cops- people who genuinely want to do the "right" thing.
That was a really tough call for your dad. Police have to think on their feet under real pressure all the time. His conscience proves he was good at his job and an outstanding member of society.
As a Scottish individual, the police here tend to be like this too. When I was a kid I did some things I'm not proud of, nothing too bad, and they just explained to me exactly what harm came from what I was doing. Learned my lesson and never did it again.
Not know where he got his idea that he owned the police. It's nice to see how a well educated/mannered police is handling an incident with annoying people, and still get what they want.
As a Brit who has lived abroad in a country with no rule of law, or a very tenuous application of it, I very much appreciate and support our police service. On the rare occasion I've met them, I've always been impressed by their professionalism. When I see a police officer, I immediately think that's where I'll find safety and security. I particularly appreciate their training to de-escalate situations.
British police officers are not obliged to divulge their name, just their number. Normally in the UK those asked to help officers with their inquiries will do so to aid detection of miscreants. We don't have amendments to anything! - just normal politeness and a desire to keep the streets safe.
You can be detained up to 24 hours in the UK so he is not free to go unless the police say they are not meant to detain you unless there is suspicion that something has happened and that you may have been involved or that you have witnessed something. So he is not free to go. In America he might be but in Britain definitely not unless the police say. Also they are more likely to let you leave quicker if you stay quiet because otherwise the police will think you’re guilty of a crime
He is just being awkward for the sake of it. All the police are doing is conducting an investigation and may need to ask questions of those in the vicinity of an incident.
Exactly... He is being belligerent just because HE thinks it will: #1 Make a good video. #2 Show how he won't be made to appear to 'kowtow' to a women police officer. #3 He doesn't like the police, because of past interactions. 🤔 Although, IMHO, he's just a Tw@t !!! 😎
It wouldn't change much, he would be charged with disrespect to authority and may spend a couple of days im the slammer (and fined), but most of the situation would be the same.
He would be locked up after asking the same stupid question for the third time. A few days to cool off behind bars. Plenty of time to reflect how well he educated the police of a different country 😂.
Okay, there was a crime committed, that the police were investigating. As far as I am aware, the police are entitled to detain any possible witnesses or suspects while they interview people and so on. This guy was not being at all helpful. In some countries he could have found himself in a jail cell or worse. But the UK is civilized.
Yup, and they did actually answer one of his questions - he just didn't hear it cos he was too busy interrupting them. They said they had a description, it was a very rough one they admitted, but he _did_ match what little they had so they were being careful and trying to dot their "i's" and cross their "t's" just in case he _was_ the culprit. So yes they absolutely had a valid legal reason to detain him (and again, they answered that particular question of his multiple times).
Yes - it's almost the classic Agatha Christie/Knives Out scenario - the detective marches into the mansion house and gathers everybody together: "nobody leaves this room until the killer is found" Usually as a misdirection, the most annoying people in the room will demand to be allowed to leave - but politely told they can't.
Oh the entitlement! It's a crime scene, sir! You can't just walk off because you say you didn't do or see anything. I mean, don't you think that's exactly what the criminal would say? So yes, you have to stay there till the cops figure it out.
The UK: A person can be held in custody for up to 24 hours before police have to charge them. This increases up to 36 or 96 hours if suspected of a serious crime such as murder and up to 14 days if arrested under the Terrorism Act. This is the longest legal period of pre-charge detention. So they could decide he is bothersome, arrest him and keep him for 24 hours without charging him with anything and it would not be illegal. I kinda thought that is how they work. You can be arrested for being a public nuisance as far as I know. They won't do it unnecessarily but if he push enough they might just say that they're arresting him on suspicion of X and let him out at 3 or something without charging him at all.
The reason for the fluffy pink sponge over the radio is it's used as a distraction. The first two ladies who arrived are most likely community police officers and know the area well. Because that often means dealing with children and sadly having to take children away when crime has been committed, even a little pink fluffy sponge can give the child something to distract from a destressing situation. It's simple and quite clever in its way.
If needed the officers can arrest this person under a number of public order violations, but the practice is to minimise arrests because its a waste of time and paperwork. The mistake is to think that the police are meek similar to the royal guards, under the right circumstances they will act, notice the extra officers appearing as this guy becomes more difficult this is a subtle escalation of threat assessment
Very much this. As soon as the Sergeant is called in you just know they two women assessed him as potentially dangerous. I believe the rule for suspects resisting arrest is 3 cops for one suspect. But of course more help more, if only to secure the back.
The police are a lot like the royal guards. They will put up with a lot, but you may get a warning, or a shove, if you cross the line. "Make Way For The Queen's / King's Guards!"
🥸I see far better training when using comms in the UK!... right up to getting dog handlers, and armed sections, that really know how to handle a situation FAR better than the "American cowboys" approach!
his actions are holding up the investigation, in the end there are 6 officers involfed with him. If he cooperated he would probably been free to go before the end of the video.
Seems to be a very different approach with people and the police, in the UK most people would hang around to help the police where as it seems in America everyone ones to get away??? I would not say the Police got "Owned", I would say he showed himself to be a total fool and ignorant of where he was
My understanding is US police will try to pin things on whoever seems easiest to bully into a guilty plea. Also being detained over there can mean having to post bail or stay in a cell for an unspecified amount of time, consequently losing your job.
Dear lord, if you're gonna go to other countries, respect the goddamn locals. You don't know their tradition and what they are like, and being rude to them whilst YOU'RE the one who doesn't know these rules is just incredibly immature and stupid.
If he shut his trap long enough for the officer to explain instead of showing his ignorance he would be able to leave once it's sorted. We don't behave towards our police officers the way you do in America, we have more respect, so you show our police the respect we would.
Homie thinks America makes the world’s laws. The entitlement is staggering.
American law (and many others) is based on UK Common Law.
@@Renegade1127 But you still can’t legitimise your interpretation of ancient British common law on British streets, or any other country’s streets, for that matter.
@@primalengland I don't have to legitimise it, probably because I'm British, not American. I merely point out where most US laws come from.
The biggest difference is the police are not violent and dont carry guns.
Where does he say anything about America?
I've commented this on the original video and I want to repeat it here: did you notice how he is able to have a normal (to an extent) conversation, back and forth, with the male officer, while not letting EVER the female one even finish her answers to his own questions? He goes from being arrogant, entitled, ignorant , dismissive, rude and aggressive to completeley toning it down and being just a bit upset and frustrated. It's disgusting and I think that says it all about this person.
Yes, I agree there is a prima facie argument that there is some sexism going on here.
I realized this as well. Thanks for bringing this up.
He's very impressed with his imagined knowledge of his rights
I agree wholeheartedly.
That's why she went in there and asked for help. It's not the first time she was in this situation.
"Am I free to go?" "No, you might be a witness" "But, am I free to go?" "Why aren't you answering me, am I free to go?" "Am I free to go!?" "No" "Why aren't you answering me, am I free to go!?" ...MAN, how THICK can you be.
I'd rather say that he knows exactly what he is doing. I bet that he is attempting to push the officers far enough to make them make a wrong move in his eyes so that he can then play the victim card.
Oftentimes there's method in a madness.
He's using the broken record technique used when interviewing (ie seeking the truth of a matter - nobody uses interrogation any more!) where by asking the same question over and over again you hope to wear the other person down.
The description is of an obnoxious prat, we are looking to see if you fit that description, thank you for being so helpful.
@@Robidu1973 true
Also probably a sexist.
Such an AH with the woman, but the man he can talk "normally" to, and not interupt ever 2 seconds
People with a combative attitude like this man will find that trouble follows them around. They don’t realise that it’s not a series of unfortunate events, it’s their own response to situations causing the problems.
The guy is being a pillock, basically. It's also noticeable that when the female police were talking to them, he wouldn't allow them to explain, and he talked over them, but when the male police came over, he let them finish.
Police here are allowed to detain people for up to 24 hours without charge if they have a reasonable suspicion (which can be extended if i remember right).
All that guy's talk of unlawful detention just proves he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
Toe rag. Total toe rag.
It seems the guy is a black American. He is the ultimate victim here, he's a professional victim.
Thank you for reminding me of the very splendid word 'pillock'. I haven't heard it for a while. I've missed it.
If you don't want to comply with UK laws then just don't come to the UK.
The should have cancelled his passport.
@@snail6queen6hammyI find that too. Im Canadian and in a spot that joins America and Canada (Niagara Falls) the Americans are so loud and rude.
@@datoki7589 yes. I’ve been there.
I think he’s pretending to be American
As if all British apply
It’s amazing how many Americans seem to live by the motto: “Let no opportunity to play a drama-queen go unexploited”.
😂😂
@krunarsson Well he is 'Merican.
Or "I'm an american so your country's laws in your country's territory does not apply to me, but my american privileges that apply to me in the USA also apply to me in your country and overrules your sovereignty".
yeah maybe america should be renamed Karenia
There are people who spent years in jail after being framed by the Police who whine less than this guy! You're in the UK shut the F up and respect the fact that the Police need to do their job.
I too am a retired police officer. What's very clear is that this guy is deliberately baiting the police for a negative reaction, unnecessarily tying up 4 busy officers in the hope of finding a good YT post. What he didn't expect was the professionalism of the UK police who didn't 'own' him but totally controlled him. Not only did he fail in his attempt to wind them up, he embarrassed himself and the US for which he is an ambassador.
I just want to say, because we rarely get the chance, thank you for your service. In the rare times I've had to meet a police officer I've always been impressed by the service's professionalism. I've lived in a country where the rule of law was tenuous at best, and it was sheer hell for everyone.
What is the power the officers are using to detain someone for a significant period of time when they are clearly not purporting to arrest them?
@@iainarthur7713 The police can put you in custody to "cool off"
this cooling can be from 24 hours to 72 hours (depending on the country)
after that they will let you go, but before that you will fill your pants with fear, "I'm stuck in a foreign country and they do not respect MY US rights"
@@iainarthur7713in this case
Under section 136 of the Mental Health Act 1983, a person can be detained for up to 72 hours if they are found to be suffering from mental disorders in a public place and in immediate need of care or control :)
In the UK, the police can hold a person if they are considered a necessary witness in a criminal investigation. However, the specific duration for which a person can be held as a witness is not clearly defined and is subject to the circumstances of the case. The Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (PACE) and its associated codes of practice provide guidelines for the detention of individuals, including witnesses, during the course of a criminal investigation. Under PACE, the police have the authority to detain a person for questioning if they are believed to have information that is relevant to the investigation. The duration of this detention is typically determined based on the progress of the investigation and the necessity of the person's testimony. However, the general principle is that the detention should be for no longer than is necessary to conduct the questioning. It's important to note that the rights of individuals held as witnesses, including the duration of their detention, are subject to legal safeguards and oversight to ensure that their rights are respected and that the detention is justified and proportionate to the circumstances of the case. For the most current and detailed information on the detention of individuals as witnesses in the UK, it is advisable to refer directly to the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (PACE) and its associated codes of practice.
@@iainarthur7713
Probably something along the lines of "reasonable suspicion".
If it is suspected you are withholding information you can be as guilty as the perpetrator ! (depending on what the circumstance is).
If you are on the premises where a serious crime has been committed, the police gave the right to detain you on the premises until they have spoken to everyone about the crime. This man is an example of why many people in the UK find Americans arrogant and unpleasant to be around. He is in England, not America, and he can't go around England throwing his weight around like that.
She explained it to him over and over again. You could have seen something or you could be an accomplice to the main suspect.
Also, as I tell my children; don’t ask questions if you’re not gonna listen to the answer.
Not just in England. People all over the world find this American attitude, entitled and rude.
It's incredible that he wasn't too embarrassed to post this footage 😂😂
That’s because he doesn’t have any respect for the laws of other countries, and he really believes he is in the right. Which makes doubly stupid
Look at what Trump does and says on camera everyday...! 😂😂😂 NOT a good role model for a certain type of American.... 😅😅😅
Especially as I believe he spent that night in a cell.
While he was wasting police time, the actual criminal was escaping.
The police were breaking UK law, why not post it?
Q: 'On what grounds am I being detained for?'
A: 'Excessive use of prepositions in a public place'
@LostsTVandRadio - 🤣Right! ... "so no pissing for you!" 😁
@LostsTVandRadio
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Oh my God Thank you for that.
That has to be one of the best yet concise comments I have ever seen.
Lost to the uneducated and so his fan base but a literary gem. 👍👍👍👍👍
😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉
lol, thank you!!
Lol… glad someone else found that hard on the ears! Back to grammar school with him! 🤣🤣🤣
That guy made himself look a right idiot . He should be embarrassed.
The guy was a.complet tossers
How could he be embarrassed, ‘he’s an american’
Number one! Maybe a number two? Poo.
He's American, embarrassment is not part of their persona, just arrogance.
A black American. A professional victim. 😂😂😂
They don’t look “owned” to me. All I see is an arrogant guy thinking he can push the police around and failing miserably😂
he didnt get tazzed, he thinks thats a win.
Agree 100%. Not just an insufferably arrogant yank, but a predictably ignorant one, too. There's a hilarious video of a similar character trying to wind up an incredibly-patient member of the Gardai somewhere in rural Ireland, something about the yank's hire car. It does NOT go well for the yank, who ends up totally flummoxed and confused, while the Guard shrugs and walks away with a gentle smile on his face and the car keys in his hand ...
@@tersse In the description of his video he admits that he was put in the bin for 20h. Bet he was upset about that.
@@Sine-gl9lyI saw that.
It had to do with a Sovereign Citizen.
He got owned by the Gardai
@@gerardflynn7382 Sovereign citizen or whatever they call themselves LOL, IIRC the yank was saying he was a 'whatever' but the Guard looked at his passport and said 'No you're not, you're a yank'.
I have to wonder why they think they can get away with that sort of $h!t in both GB and the Republic. They must think that our cops are a 'soft touch' compared to their own, just because they don't see a gun at their hip ...
I'll bet they each felt differently after suffering the consequences of their toddler-like behaviour ... which they had brought _entirely_ onto themselves.
AMERICANS BEWARE! When visiting these islands - whichever you visit - our police services - whatever their uniform or name - are much better trained than yours _in all sorts of ways_ , many of which will come as a surprise to you ...
I dont know why everyone is so suprised, most UK police are patient and professional.
@@Bill32H-it3sv oh I've personally experience bad policing, had police be violent towards me unlawfully. I've had much more positive experiences than bad ones though so I base my comment on that.
@@WielkaStopa-qh1rr I've watched them. They're not all bad and he's trying to get a rise himself. Not all of them are that unreasonable
She's not aggressive cuz she has normal police training. 3-4 years. And they don't get trained like they're military. They get trained TO SERVE and protect. Also, they barely have to worry about guns at all.
I’m also pretty sure that of those 3-4 years training, there’s also a lot of time spent training de-escalation. This part never seems to be worked on in the US, where everyone seems on edge/elevated all the time.
@@Wizz15 US cops are actively trained in escalation at this point.
‘My camera is more important than your camera.’ What age is this guy. My daddy is bigger than your daddy. 😂
I know... seriously from what planet did he fall from
It's pretty obvious.
His camera and footage from his point of view is in his possession theirs isn't.
It's not hard is it.
There are enough encounters with US police that have been filmed that illustrate the point.
@@georgechickfulhe's not in America, Sherlock 😅
It is NOT hard, IS IT!!!
@@georgechickful But he ISN'T in the US is he. He is in the UK, a part of Europe, and the vast vast majority of European coppers are NOT going to act like seppo police.
@@MayYourGodGoWithYou There are endless clips of US police misbehaving on camera, NOT from their bodycams, showing a different narrative than they paint.
This is why so many recommend recording the police as a default.
Bruised ego is why they get so arsey when they're recorded.
The UK police aren't angel's either.
For me, the guy is just screaming out phrases and not trying to make a dialogue and interrupt officers every time they try to explain him something.
His phrases are just like Trump uses when standing at a podium talking to his MAGA 'base'... Repetitive and monotonous, with NO clarity or reasoning behind them! This guy is doing as much PR for the US as Trump did around the world which was to 'make it a laughing stock'. 😎 😅 😂 🤣
Obviously, because he's in toddler mode. He doesn't want conversation he WANTS what HE WANT and he WANTS it THIS INSTANT, screw other people or that he might actually have been helping an actual criminal.
He does not know the other guy. He does not know if the other guy is maybe the person in question and thus, by siding with a suspect, he has made himself suspicious :'D
Screaming out the same litany of phrases and not listening to any of the answers is stupid and arrogant . These types of people hurt my head
@iljacvetkov8312 You must make allowances for some people. Don't you realise he's from the bestest and most important country in the World. (USA - 'Merica?)
Until two male cops come there. You can hear how his tone changes depending on who he is talking to.
As an American, I am so embarrassed by this impolite bully who is making the officers job much harder.
Good for you but sadly, you are not in the majority.
@@mackwiz1 if you think the majority of Americans act this way, then that is truly sad.
@@amazinggrace5692 : It is sad that you chaps have earned the reputation.
They got locked up for 24 hours
Also a posed a threat to the community disturbance of the peace etc
she's literally talking to him like she would to a kindergardener, i would die of embarrassment in his shoes how do people act like that
Because he wasn't listening to her. Slowing it down is better for everyone.
British police don't ordinarily carry firearms. They tend to be more polite and very well-trained. If the officer says you're detained, then you're detained. You have no US Constitutional rights in a foreign country.
The arrogance of people he really thinks he’s in the U.S
That's how some cultures react to fear.
I agree, he's an arrogant to say the least...
Yes maybe... but
You can be arrested if a Police officer has reasonable grounds/suspicion that you may have committed a crime (which I think is pretty much the same in the U.S.). But detaining, without being formally arrested is more a thin line. At least from what can make sense of from the UK laws around arrest and detaining. There cannot be any psychical contact made to detain (which they didn't do in this video): "unless exercising a power of arrest, a Police Officer has no greater powers than a member of the public does to detain another person".
I think the Police officers didn't want to arrest them, because they didn't have strong enough grounds to do so...as that would led to an illegal arrest.
"Most cases of such illegal ‘detention’ by Police Officers involve physical contact such as the case of Wood v DPP [2008] EWHC 1056 which once again involved an Officer taking hold of a person by the arm in order to question, but not arrest them (even if the questioning was in order for the Officer to form a view as to whether or not the person should be arrested). Unlawful physical contact by a Police Officer would constitute assault and battery, even if no injury as such was sustained, **whilst an Officer detaining a person without touching them and without the threat of force (actual or implied) or, by blocking a person’s route of ‘escape’ from a confined space, then this would amount to false imprisonment, and likewise give rise to a claim for compensation"**.
So its a fine line from what I understand. This guy actually had fair grounds to question the Police for being detained, especially as he wasn't formally arrested. You have to be aware of your rights and abuses of power. In saying that if you are innocent, I guess you just help with their enquires and be on your way. 🤷♂
I'm American so i know... this dumbass is in the UK
To be fair thats not just americans but other foreigners/ immigrants as well. They behave like they are in their homecountry and we have to adhere to his countries laws and costums...Seen it all
That guy was being as non helpful as possible. He was pointing out the color of his skin several times for some reason. Stating he knows he was illegally detained when informed he was not. The police was behaving admirably with godlike patience. Well done British police!
You can be arrested if a Police officer has reasonable grounds/suspicion that you may have committed a crime (which I think is pretty much the same in the U.S.). But detaining, without being formally arrested is more a thin line. At least from what can make sense of from the UK laws around arrest and detaining. There cannot be any psychical contact made to detain (which they didn't do in this video): "unless exercising a power of arrest, a Police Officer has no greater powers than a member of the public does to detain another person".
I think the Police officers didn't want to arrest them, because they didn't have strong enough grounds to do so...as that would led to an illegal arrest.
"Most cases of such illegal ‘detention’ by Police Officers involve physical contact such as the case of Wood v DPP [2008] EWHC 1056 which once again involved an Officer taking hold of a person by the arm in order to question, but not arrest them (even if the questioning was in order for the Officer to form a view as to whether or not the person should be arrested). Unlawful physical contact by a Police Officer would constitute assault and battery, even if no injury as such was sustained, whilst an Officer detaining a person without touching them and without the threat of force (actual or implied) or, by blocking a person’s route of ‘escape’ from a confined space, then this would amount to false imprisonment, and likewise give rise to a claim for compensation".
So its a fine line from what I understand. This guy actually had fair grounds to question the Police for being detained, especially as he wasn't formally arrested. You have to be aware of your rights and abuses of power. In saying that if you are innocent, I guess you just help with their enquires and be on your way. 🤷♂
@@gooner_duke2756 But there is also a point in which the police HAVE to do their job and investigate, they tried to ask the man questions to gather more information but her started getting defensive and being unhelpful which causes a problem becuase it starts making him suspicious. Its kind of like how when you know the police have sufficient evidenace against you and you say "i need my lawyer". If this guy genuinely did nothing wrong then he should have just complied and given them information and rather then being locked up for 20 hours in detention he could have been free in 5-10 minutes. His defensive and unruly behaviour is what got him sent to detention.
Thing in the uk are alot different to the US, most people in the UK would agree this guy got what he deserved. We dont really care if your innocent and get unlawfully detained if your acting like a complete moron. General rule in the UK if your innocent and the police have questions just help them out they arnt going to put you in jail for being cooperative. Unless of course you arnt innocent.
As soon as he tries to leave, that’s grounds for suspicion I’d say. Or just being so uncooperative could be again seen as suspicious. He could have been well away if he just talked to them like a normal person rather than a knob!
He said I know I don't fit the description, how does he know, logic says he did see something
He's not even letting her talk and asking the same question over and over even know she's answerd him every time. He's baiting her. Their just trying to do their job 😞
I'm not even British but European and I can translate "I appreciate your frustration" into American English, it means: "Shut the fuck up".
I'm Dutch and I love these indirect British ways of saying something that sound kind, polite and respectful, but actually they're being savage. Over here if we say "I appreciate your frustration", we literally mean we respect your frustration and try to take it into account.
When greeting someone:
You alright? (sir/mate/dear)"/ "How you doing?"
- Brit/American: "Hey, how are you"
- Dutch: "Uhm... I'm fine, thanks"
Very poor translation!!! It's called de-escalation and I think he did it very well.
YES. I was going to say this is British way of saying shut up. It sounds polite but it isn't its kind of like understatements. they're very good at understating things too.
@@KevinKickChannelThe correct response to 'Alright?' is 'Alright?'. You're not really supposed to answer the implied question. It's the modern version of 'How do you do?' the correct response to which is 'How do you do?'
@@KevinKickChannel We would say "ik hoor wat je zegt maar..." same useless sentence to help people shut up but not insult them
I haven't had much experience with police (I'm now 70). I moved from England to Denmark in '78 and soon after got stopped while carrying a sofa home at night. They happily accepted my explanation that it wasn't stolen but was good enough to sleep on even if it didn't have any legs. Another time (after I'd learned to speak Danish) I was stopped on the way home from a party at around 2am. Asked if there were drugs at the party I told the truth: I didn't know - not seen anything suspicious but that I probably not have known anyway having no experience. Result: they drove me home. No ID required.
The point being: all very polite and friendly.
I had a similar experience UK, was christmas 2016, walking home at night with a roll of christmas wrapping in a bag, to be fair it did look like a baseball bat from afar, got stopped by police, they thought maybe I be going around trying to break in and steal, but after they stopped me, they saw what it was and let me go on, no guns drawn, no threats of death, just a okay then, merry christmas. Thats why the British police are better than the American Police
"Am I free to go?" "No." "Am I free to go? Why won't you answer my question?"
I'm sorry, who does this guy think he is? Coming to the United Kingdom acting like he's in America.
The sad thing is for even little thing some American will draw at least a teaser and found out is his reglamentarry gun after he shot the guy...
That’s what most Americans do where ever they go.
I live in the UK, but have I’ve spent a lot of time in Germany and Italy, sadly this is standard behaviour for Americans.
They expect Europeans to pander to them and they never bother to learn about how things are done differently here.
They come to Ireland and do the same thing, great video showing some prat from the US doing that down Cork way, how the garda kept his cool without actually bursting out laughing is a mystery. They think they own the world (literally in some cases) and that their laws are the de facto laws everywhere else.
@@ffotograffydd 100% agree
They suck. Yessiree, yeehaw! Dangnabbit and all that bollocks.😊
This video makes me feel proud of the British police force. The two blokes were kept there until the police finished their investigation without any threats or force. The American tried his hardest to rile them up but British decency won the day
👏👏👏👏
Usually I’m proud of the British police, but here we’ve got someone who desperately deserves a right kicking, and the police fail to oblige him.
Most american police operate the same way, from videos I've seen online anyway, so what you're saying is a little disgenious
@@minion3806 : You are taking the mick! Any reel about Americans is concerning abuse or worse.
if he had tried it in America he would have got shot befor
Ignorance and arrogance at its finest. A great ambassador for his country.
Just like ex President Trump
like most Americans
@@maureengreenin2727he's alot better than this entitled so and so.
@@sarahhumphreys3980 oh no he isnt
@allycbythesea7937 oh yes he is.
I read a brilliant description of these 'sovereign citizen/libertarian/entitled' type people recently in tweet (or whatever they're called nowadays) by a guy called John Spaulding. He called them 'House cats'. Because "they are convinced of their fierce independence while utterly dependent on a system they don't appreciate or understand".
House cats understand a little bit.
Adult cats meow primarily to communicate with humans. It is fairly rare for cats to meow at each other.
(Also, adult humans meow primarily to communicate with cats. It is fairly rare for humans to meow at each other)
In pretty much all of Europe, if an officer tells you not to leave a locale for any reason, you don't. In situations such as this, you are to follow the instructions. And if you're a potential suspect, no, you are not allowed to use the bathroom and flush potentially incriminating evidence.
Great comment
The difference is that in Europe we really train our cops
As far as I can hear, this, it is an American that got detained by a brittish police officer. He acts as if he is in the States. They told him why but he doesnt want to understand. He is not educating them. He is rude and obnoctious and impatient.
Or of course possibly having something to hide from the police officer that might incriminate him on what the police suspect him of doing. The police officers did their job well imo in dealing with this entitled American by keeping him detained while conducting their inquiry. It would have been interesting to see more of this video on what happened next.
What an excellent point. Who knows what he had in his pockets eh? @@ednammansfield8553
@@ednammansfield8553 I thought that i wrote it down somewhere, but yeah, he acted suspicously.
Those police women be like: "why do we always get stuck with the weirdos?"
Those coppers are a credit to the police service.
He was doing his best to get away because he was actually guilty of punching a woman in the face.
He was arrested but later released without charge because the woman decided against pressing charges.
Well I hope madam is OK.
He knows full well he can't go to the bathroom - he might try to hide or flush something in the toilet. This is a typical example of the arrogant American. Full marks to our police and the calm way they handled the situation.
If police suspected that he had something on him that he would hide or flush in the toilet then they could have either arrested him or told him that he was detained for the purpose of a search. Since neither of those happened it's hard to see why he shouldn't go to the bathroom.
@@barneylaurance1865 No that is not how it works, silly. The incident JUST happened. They do not even know what they would be searching for. That is exactly why they are investigating. So they would also be able to determine what sort of evidence they were trying to secure. And until all of that is out of the way, they can not just simply have him walk away. And you just have heard it was an assault. You cannot just "search" for things like DNA under the fingernails from a fight. But that stuff can be washed away. And you cannot lawfully secure any such evidence before getting the paperwork ready and enough suspicion to warrant that you tag a person an actual suspect.
Here's some food for thought: Protocols exist for good reasons most of the time. If they didn't have reasons to handle it this way, then they sure as heck would not bother to handle it this way. After all it's fairly bothersome to say no to a person.
@@KxNOxUTA You can't just search for things like DNA under fingernails, but if you suspect someone was in a fight then you can immediately arrest them for assault / actual bodily harm / grievous bodily harm depending how bad the fight was. Then you have 24 hours to collect evidence before you have to charge them or let them go.
You still can't just arbitrarily detain people.
@@barneylaurance1865 They didn't arbitrarily detain people. These people were at a scene of a crime and its fair that they detain them until such time they narrow their scope. It would be incredibly stupid to let someone leave a scene of crime.
@@SriGutta If the police think it's stupid to let someone leave the scene of a crime there's an established way to stop them leaving - it's called arrest. And for good reason there are a lot of rules about when the police may and may not make an arrest.
I visited Britain (I am German) about 10 years ago. My best friend and I walked around one of the richest parts of London, looking at the amazing cars on the streets. After about 30 minutes we got stopped by a cop on a bike (it was summer). He asked who we were, where we were from etc. We both were scared shitless because we thought we did something illegal. He was very polite and calm and asked for our passports and to wait with him till his colleagues arrived. We did so(around 5 minutes) and were very nervous. His colleagues arrived and explained that recently there had been a lot of break ins into and thefts of expensive cars in this area and there were young men seen near the crime scenes. So we were questioned a bit more, after explaining they asked us to be careful and maybe leave this part as some of the rich folks were uneasy with strangers walking around (never mind it was a public street). It was clear as day that he was annoyed at these people and told us that he couldn't and wouldn't force us to leave, but it would make his life way easier.
Of course we left afterwards (still shaking) but I have to say, it was overall pleasant, non hostile and very calm and reasonable. At no point did the police give off a threatening vibe or even think of drawing one of their tools (the cop on the bike didn't even carry a gun as far as I could tell, he was dressed in normal clothes (shorts and polo shirt) and riding around on his bike, so probably "undercover").
Two years ago, I was in the US and was in a routine police check (as a passenger) and the cops always kept their hand on their holster and the vibe overall was very tense and unpleasant... It couldn't have been more different!
You were profiled illegally.
Police in England don't carry guns, other than specially trained armed response units. Though they can carry tasers.
Imagine being thought of as a criminal and (defacto) forced out of an area because some rich people were annoyed by youre mere existence and then licking the boots of the guys that were used to enforce this. These cops would have beaten you to pulp, had one of the rich guys told them to...
@@GilbMLRS no they wouldn't. where'd you get that ridiculous idea?
@@carltaylor6452Likely from America.
The language barrier is funny. When a Brit tells you "I ask you" then what comes next is not a question but an order. So polite.
in fact, 'i ask you to' is always an order, even in america, only people with a slight rejection of intelligence wouldn't notice that ....
It’s a subtle hint of: “If your unwilling to comply without use of force, we will not only have the right to start using force, but see no other option then to do so”
This guy filming the police sounds like a immature brat. He is not a grown man at all
i ask you to smile. even when you dont feel like smiling, the action can sometimes improve your mood just a little bit.
I have been a Police officer in both the UK ( Exeter,Devon) and in Canada ( Toronto) in the 70’s & 80’s. At both Police Colleges we were often trained in “mock arrest or not” scenarios where our patience,tact,understanding( & sometimes our sense of humour !)were being tested…SOFTLY,SOFTLY was ALWAYS the key factor. De-escalation was ALWAYS the primary goal UNTIL the situation called for an arrest…BUT only when enough evidence has been gathered,,,or on REASONABLE & PROBABLE Grounds to make an arrest. In EVERY arrest the accused is handcuffed,read their rights,searched & taken to the Police station where they are brought in front of the Custody Supervisor who is briefed on the reason. The Supervisor then asks the accused if they have anything to say ,notes are taken from their replies then ,if required,taken for an interview or placed in a cell. Any property taken from them is secured . The accused also has fingerprints & photo taken (mugshot) and allowed to make a phone call. I have experienced countless situations where my training was invaluable from drunks who were helped into a taxi home…to struggling to arrest a drunk driver who was high on drugs AND booze…then the one time I assisted in the arrest of a murder suspect where I was the FIRST cop on the scene….Many of the these memories still haunt me and I’m going to be 80 years of age later this year…( I also served in the Royal Marines prior to my Police Service & so I am a very PROUD Decorated Military & Police Veteran
He doesn’t understand. Your American rules/ Amendments (I’m sorry I’m not American so I don’t fully know American Amendments) don’t apply in the UK.
the weirdest thing is 90% of the time if the police talk to me (which is very very rare in the uk) im interested in helping them, because like, you know, why wouldnt i want to help the police haha, i kinda like peace and order.
I once heard someone explain to another person:
"...and then one day I went into the city, and I was looking for this place and I couldn't find it. I saw a cop and I thought 'oh, a cop! He'll be able to help me!' and then it hit me.
_THIS is what they mean by rehabilitation_
Normal people see cops as helpful people. All those years my reaction to seeing a cop would have been 'hide it' even if I didn't have nothing to hide, but seeing cops as someone who will help is what normal is! It doesn't for everybody, but for me, jail worked."
Agree - totally - I am one of the 95% of the population they are here to help - not one of the 5% who ruin things for the rest of us. Thank you, police.
" Are we free to go ?"
No, you're gonna be arrested for blatant stupidity.
This comment made me laugh out loud so hard 😂
Brit here. I've been stopped by the police once as i matched a description of a recent break in. They stopped me. Told me what they were going to do and if i consented. I did. They searched me. I helped them locate some of the "hidden" pockets in my coat and then they got a call through on the radio saying they caught the person. I was told I was free to go, they apologised for the inconvenience and gave me a leaflet about what happened, why it happened and who i needed to call if i wanted to complain or give feedback.
British Police are awesome. Also, German police are pretty cool to. Not me, but my brother went to Germany for the football. He said people were doing Hitler impressions, etc, and the police were so chill asking people to be polite and not be disrespectful in their country.
German police being chill is because Germans also do this on occasion - but more to emphasise, not to mock others. So police couldn’t do anything, but they _did_ intervene politely, which is basically the way police interacts with people in Germany. If the people had done Hitler salutes ore used certain _slogans_ during their impressions, the situation would have been different: Using „Symbols of anti-constitutional organisations“, such as symbols and slogans of the Nazi party (and some others) are crimes in Germany (a reasonable limitation of free speech, given the German history), punishable by up to three years or a fine according to §86a StGB (the German Criminal Code). - It is possible that they would have just warned them, due to the event. It would be near impossible to process the whole bunch of people when actively on duty to prevent violence and as a show of force, and probably not enough resources to investigate every minor crime.
If you have nothing to do with the incident, help the police!
His behaviour would have raised red flags to British police, and made him more of a suspect.
As a UK officer myself, I really don't care if people record me.
We deal with people like this all the time. Who think they know the law better than us, or misquote law or even quote law that doesn't even apply in that situation.
I've seen instances of people quoting "Maritime law" on a road traffic stop.... why would laws relating to the navigation of ships on the sea apply on a road traffic stop of a car?
And yes, we can stop people making use of facilities, ESPECIALLY when said facility is a crime scene anyway and has been "cordoned off". Members of the public who may or may not be involved in the case walking through the scene only disrupts and in some cases destroys evidence which can collapse a whole case.
In Spaim we have a law where people openly disrespecting police officers (using swear words and being purposedly obstructive) could get you fined, don't you have something similar?
@@TheBayzent There's the public order act, but a high court ruling some years back set case law that meant we were expected to be more tolerant of it, as such you'd be expected to take a fair bit of abuse and swearing before you arrested someone for it.
A mention of maritime law is a pretty good indicator that they are into all that “sovereign citizen” / “freeman on the land” nonsense
I couldn't do the job. If I got a guy like this I'd lose my rag with him. 😂
I'm European (not British), but police is basically the same across the continent. They're here to serve the people. They get paid out of our taxes. And they're here to help us. Never had bad experiences with the police, regardless of where in Europe. I was in London a month ago and got lost, saw an officer, went to them, and they helped me find where I wanted to go.
Also the reason the police are nice here is that we're also nice to them. You won't see this kind of behaviour towards police by Europeans. Respect towards others and authority gets you very far in life.
I can recommend two videos on youtube to watch, "(ENGLISH CAPTIONS) Finnish police chasing a half naked drunk bicyclist" and "Norwegian Police Funniest Arrest Ever".
They handled the situation well. Some of the nicest police can be found in Germany and France from my experience.
I had an encounter with German police called for too much noise during a party. They said: "guys turn the music down or we will stay and start dancing, and nobody wants to see that".
i'm British (and therefore European) and always find European police to be helpful and polite in every country I've visited In Europe
@@f.w.7843 nah French police usually isnt all that nice.
@@gbbgbb1856That tells us more about you than the Police.
@@f.w.7843 Being French, it is not the experience that I have had with French police. They can be very unfriendly, above all depending on your look, your ethnical or social origin or the area where they are operating. The laws are very different from US or the UK and give the authority to the French police to check your identity and make physical contact without any suspicion. The usage of "outrage" is also frequent. The only fact of not being cooperating with the police is in itself ground for being arrested. Which means that if you have nothing to do with a crime but that you are commenting on them being unfair to someone being arrested, they can and will detain you as well.
As a Brit, anytime the police have talked to me (which isn't often) they have always been super nice and respectful and in return I have always tried my best to help them as much as I can. Which I think is very common here, while sure there will always be an officer having a bad day or a few bad apples. I think as a whole there is a lot of respect towards the police over here.
I was witness to a horrific road accident, and these guys were heroes in my mind. Sad to see what else they have to deal with in the form of this knobhead.
I'm a French man who lived three years in Scotland. Officers were always nice to me, and I've always been nice to them (ok, I might have been a wee bit cheeky here and there, but it was more banter than aggression, still showing a willingness to cooperation).
For all of them I've met them (about 20-30 times, they've been helpful, sincere, non-threatening, and kind). I'm saying it's the case for all the coppers I met, but it's my experience. They treat you with respect, you send it back, and everything is gonna be fine, even if you're drunk above all your arse.
@wibbleroo Basic, common, decent, normal behavior. Unfortunately, a lot of people throughout the World are woefully lacking in any of these attributes.
I did get "stopped" by them once although I had already pulled over to take my contact lenses out,. They did question me a bit aggressively and asked me what I'd been up to that night in a way that I was expecting him to tell me what he thought I'd done. Apparently a car matching mine's description had been spotted driving 'suspicously' near some houses (didn't realise that was a crime lol), fortunately they let me go before long after they realised I was clearly not this suspicous driver they were looking for. I don't have a problem with the police in general but the experience did make me more wary of them.
The guy was arrogant. He talks over the PC not listening. She'd read his rights if was being arrested. He was getting the wrong end of the stick he was a potential witness. Chill. Brits in the US of A even polite get abuse from police officers or the immigration folks at the airport. The American made a pillock of himself.
The guy talking sounds very arrogant and rude!
They are being very nice and his attitude stinks!
I remember when a cop in Toronto took into custody an unarmed man who drove his car into people on a sidewalk without a single shot being fired, and it exploded in the US media. In one article I read an American who trains cops criticize the police officer for those actions of first ascertaining whether the suspect was armed, then taking him into custody. That trainer of American cops suggested it was the cop's duty to shoot at the unarmed man before making sure he was unarmed in order to "safeguard" the public. So, yes, in the US there is at least one "professional" training cops to use excessive and deadly force, who would have ensured there was an unnecessary death that day. I noticed at some point when I looked up that article again that the trainer got them to remove his name from the article. If you want an example of what is wrong with policing in the US vs the rest of the developed world, that is a good example.
The main problem in the US is that virtually any imbecile over there can get a gun and ammo, thanks to the excessive lobbying from the NRA. Cops over there need to be extra wary, because they absolutely cannot tell whether or not someone is actually armed and therefore have to assume the worst case.
In order to deal with this problem they need to get rid of the Second Amendment (which won't happen any time soon thanks to the NRA) adjust their laws to gain control over who can get a gun, etc., introduce a transition period during which anyone either can turn their weapons in without incurring any sort of penalty or apply for a permit (including a background check, providing a substantive reason on why that person needs the weapons in question and after successfully taking an exam of competence).
Then you don't have to equip schools, etc. with metal detectors nor to staff them with armed guards to deal with any psychopaths or the likes who are on a killing spree.
Instead of attempting to mitigate the symptoms, the US government would be extremely well-advised to deal with this problem at its root!
What a dick. In the UK innocent bystanders would regard it as their responsibility to assist the police in their enquiries & that is what the police are expecting of him. Any of us who have been near a crime know that’s what we would do. If we don’t do that voluntarily then they have a right to ask him to stay. Our model of policing by consent holds a presupposition that British citizens and visitors will assist the police in their enquires.
"Police get owned"
I missed that part of the video. 🤔🤣🤣🤣
He definitely sounds like a US American to everyone else watching.
Their calm, reasonable manner worked. He ran out of questions, statements and steam by the end. Well done British Police from an Aussie.
Wasting Police time is considered a minor crime, here.
@stevetheduck1425 in the UK?
Notice how after a certain point they just stop talking and just stare off into the distance? They know it's pointless talking to him, but he's still not going anywhere...
@@QTGetomov literally disengaging...excellent stuff
The police officer having her arms down is no doubt from her training. In a previous job of mine, we were taught that even raising your hands in front of yourself can be perceived as aggression. So we were taught ways to handle escalated situations all without raising your hands to grab people.
the pink thing on the radio is an antenna cover to protect against RF burns haha
The first police officer walked away because she was about to lose her temper. I remember as a parent being told that to do that when toddlers push your buttons.
I've been asked by Police to stay in the area after an incident so that they could question me to see if I had any relevant information. Fortunately, on one occasion I did and helped resolve a traffic collision. Hanging around for a few minutes didn't adversely affect me.
A bit of patience and politeness never causes a problem. But if you want to be antagonistic then you will cause your own problems.
Exactly this, and if he had kept his gob shut, he would have been on his way fairly quickly but at the end I counted five police officers dealing with him, two of them sergeants. No wonder he ended up arrested.
This unfortunately is (currently) the difference in attitudes to our respective Police forces. His attitude could also cause the officers to be suspicious of him, again due to the officers usual experiences.
This sounds like he was given a script and was told _"If you ask these questions, they won't be able to do anything and you can just go!"_ but it's not working. How many times did he ask:
_"Am I free to go?"_
_"Am I being detained? On what grounds"_
_"What's the description of the suspect?"_
And when the cops answer all the questions and his script doesn't work, he just tries again...and again...and again, as if the cops will finally let him go if he repeats it enough times.
this is a "karren" thing too. repeating stuff doesn't make things more true and repeating questions wont change the given answers. but the US-stereotypes "arrogant" and "ignorant" have to come from somewhere ^^
@@somersaultcurse He's trying to get them to slip up and say something that he can then turn on them to make it appear as though he's in the right. What he clearly fails to realise is how painfully unaware of local laws he is. I'm willing to bet he's the kind of guy thinking american laws applies everywhere just by virtue of him being american.
These are actually questions I've seen American lawyers recommend people ask, if they're detained by the police. ...In America. The intention is that you don't say anything without a lawyer present, because you might incriminate yourself and you need to know what the matter is about, so you can determine with your lawyer what to admit to, if anything. The "am I being detained" line is to ensure whether you're an actual suspect or not, and his insistence that he doesn't fit the description would be to ensure everyone knows he's detained baselessly.
In the US, it can be devastating to be detained, because even if you're not a flight-risk, you'll have to be bailed out to, say, keep your job, or you'll be detained until the trial.
So... in the end, I think, it comes down to trust in the judicial system.
@Sadlander2 Name and shame him. On second thoughts, the deluded, privileged idiot would probably enjoy his extra fifteen minutes of notoriety. He obviously isn't ashamed of his behavioUr otherwise he wouldn't have uploaded it.
@@somersaultcursenot Karen, SovCit . If you don’t know already google “sovereign citizens and prepare to lose many brain cells
That video should be named 'typical American vs normal people'
They don't look owned, they look irritated, by an idiot who thinks he has power over the police.
"My camera is more important than yours" destroyed any minute credibility he may have possessed at the start.
actually his credibility disappeared from the moment he started to ask questions and by doing so preventing officers of solving a crime. The melody of arrogance, half-knowledge and over-estimation of himself did the rest.
@@lost_espandrillo Yep I agree. Why be an arse about it just help them. It makes them sound guilty.
He never had any and the i am educated line destroyed everything completly. I would arrest him, for insulting an officer and for hindering an investigation.
In the UK if you treat a Police Officer with respect they will respect you. I would never go to the US and start an argument with a Police Officer.
Same goes for other countries around Europe. Generally speaking, if you behave, they won't treat you like crap, either.
you could have stopped at " I would never go to the U.S " Though I have been twice to Texas, and damn, they ain't kidding about the guns, place I stayed at had 13 guns, 4 of them were shotguns, and I wasn't staying in central Texas, I was staying in a remote part of Texas, like the arse end.... okay now I understand the need for shotguns
Thing is I feel like I, a hard of hearing Brit, would walk up to an American copper and say hello and they'd... Kablam me.
I mean, that's a very broad generalisation. There are plenty of thin-skinned authoritarian bullies in the police who like nothing more than the chance to push around members of the public. In fact, you might recall that the MET has been plagued with credible allegations of racism, sexism, corruption and violence. You may even recall that some MET officers have been found guilty of rape and murder.
I heard a story many years ago a man went up to a house to ask for directions in Texas and git shit through the letterbox for "trespassing" ..these Americans are an unfriendly bunch, I wouldn't go to America if it was the last country in existence. I'd rather drown or be nuked than go to America. 😂
3:03 The law is very straight forward. If you're told by a police officer to stay put, you stay put. You can shove your amendments or whatever where the sun don't shine.
If that really had to use the bathroom or piss himself he could just ask the police if he could use a toilet in front of a male officer to ensure he didn't get rid of any evidence.
@@liamwarner5749The issue here appears to be that he was attempting to enter an active crime scene to use the bathroom. This would likely still not be allowed as it is standard procedure to preserve the scene in case forensic investigation may be required at least initially while determining the precise nature of the incident.
OMG that officer is a saint, I can feel my blood pressure going up just listening to that guy.
This is the sort of calm interaction UK and Australian police have with the public is a result of the public being unlikely to have a gun.
AND the police being unlikely to have guns.
@@user-ed7et3pb4o The Police always have guns on them here (Canberra, Australia). In fact the only time I see a gun is in the holsters of police officers buying their coffee at my local cafe.
I don't get why the guy is so hostile. Something happen they want to clear it so why not just wait and let them do their job.
He said he is american...
@@JoaoMonty This is the only applicable answer. Anyone from any other country would assist, this jerk is just being a US jerk. There is a valid reason for the stereotype.
Murica. He's heard a handful of stories about their cops, and has perhaps himself been assaulted by them.
yes actually, that's his video, so he only show what he wants, and not the beginning. I can't trust this. That's the same we got in France in "yellow jackets" incidents. People were only showing the charges of the police, but not the peoples throwing stones on them. that's lies, imoa.
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And that's how US Americans get a bad name.
am i being unlawfully detained , UNDER WHAT CHARGES OFFICER
my god, i need to rest. i genuinely just went, "but americans are only from the US." and realised it was us in capital letters. i need water. 😂
It’s very annoying when someone asks a question and then interrupts while the answer is being given with another question that has nothing to do with the first question. People have become so confrontational. My guess is that the guy filming and doing all the talking is an American based on his behaviour
the guy in the video even says he is america XD and says he knows the law..... yeah in the us but definetly not in the uk
His belligerence, is putting himself under suspicion, that he may have been involved in someway in the alleged crime,. I'd have arrested him immediately for "Wasting Police time"
It's one of my biggest gripes is that Americans act as if american law trumps other countries laws, even online
The guy recording seems to be an awful person.
If they would not interrupt the officers the whole time and just listen it would be so much easyer for everyone involved. But no... the one recording is provoking, interrupting and acting rude the whole time.
Nothing irritates me more than people who complain about how long something is taking, if you’re complaining to a person instead of letting them do their job then it’s going to take longer, you’re making the situation worse 🤷🏻♂️
If you can't respect another country's law or institutions, then don't bother visiting.
The police officers have remained calm and reasonable, whereas this fool has shown his self worth.
"I'm cooperating" he says lmao this isn't cooperation
He was an American, you could tell that straight away. He was acting with the ego Americans have. The Police Officers have explained the situation clearly a huge number of times. No one is as stupid as he is because he did not understand what they told him. I would have arrested him because of his stupidity and wasting Police Time.
it's the ego of an aggressive chihuahua mixed with three 12yo boys
If he wasn’t a prick and was actually concerned about using a bathroom, he would ask about alternative bathrooms to use or possible solutions instead of badgering the officers with nonsense
Nah, he was making that up.
My Dad was an armed policeman in the UK in the 1970s and 80s (through IRA threats, policing Greenham Common, the miners' strikes etc). He said the ONLY time he had to fire a gun during his work was because his resident dog handler had a heart attack and the poor panicked dog went into "defence mode" for his handler, so they had to shoot the dog in order to give first aid. It still haunted my dad 30yrs later that he'd had to make that decision. I much prefer having coppers that have a conscience in that way- the purpose of the police should always be first and foremost to "protect and serve" (!) communities, not act like prison guards for entire neighbourhoods.
I would have rather you let me take my chances to die than shoot my dog
@@theotherside8258 The fact my dad was still wondering if he did the right thing 30yrs later said a lot to me... he genuinely cared, he wanted to do the right thing, but equally he only had seconds to make a decision. That's the sort of people I want as cops- people who genuinely want to do the "right" thing.
Made sure the dog got 2 tapped? never know it could come back.
That was a really tough call for your dad. Police have to think on their feet under real pressure all the time. His conscience proves he was good at his job and an outstanding member of society.
@sarahwhyld5596 my dad passed a few years ago, and your comment has just made me swell with pride and get all emotional. Thank you so much x
She is nice and patient, because she understands she is dealing with mentally handicapped.
As a Scottish individual, the police here tend to be like this too. When I was a kid I did some things I'm not proud of, nothing too bad, and they just explained to me exactly what harm came from what I was doing. Learned my lesson and never did it again.
Not know where he got his idea that he owned the police. It's nice to see how a well educated/mannered police is handling an incident with annoying people, and still get what they want.
It doesn't matter if he "owned" them or not, he's spinning a narrative and won't let the facts get in the way.
Whining tone "I want click bait"
I love how he thinks the police got 'owned'!😂
HE WAS OWNED!, that idiot reminds me so much of Trump, "No, you are owned"
Self-regard and self-delusion is a bizarre mix, for sure.
As a Brit who has lived abroad in a country with no rule of law, or a very tenuous application of it, I very much appreciate and support our police service. On the rare occasion I've met them, I've always been impressed by their professionalism. When I see a police officer, I immediately think that's where I'll find safety and security. I particularly appreciate their training to de-escalate situations.
You are lucky. I wish that were the case in America.
British police officers are not obliged to divulge their name, just their number. Normally in the UK those asked to help officers with their inquiries will do so to aid detection of miscreants. We don't have amendments to anything! - just normal politeness and a desire to keep the streets safe.
You can be detained up to 24 hours in the UK so he is not free to go unless the police say they are not meant to detain you unless there is suspicion that something has happened and that you may have been involved or that you have witnessed something. So he is not free to go. In America he might be but in Britain definitely not unless the police say. Also they are more likely to let you leave quicker if you stay quiet because otherwise the police will think you’re guilty of a crime
I understand the up/down ratio... it is so cringe to watch the video. The police was perfect in this.
I feel so bad for police officers in general. They have to put up with lots on a daily basis.
To all police officers: Many of us appreciate you! ❤
- many times it's just social work.....and dealing with knobs like this guy....
@@panchopuskas1 - 🤔Mental health cases, drunkenness, drugs, all situations that need a different type of training, I believe!
He is just being awkward for the sake of it. All the police are doing is conducting an investigation and may need to ask questions of those in the vicinity of an incident.
Exactly... He is being belligerent just because HE thinks it will: #1 Make a good video. #2 Show how he won't be made to appear to 'kowtow' to a women police officer. #3 He doesn't like the police, because of past interactions. 🤔 Although, IMHO, he's just a Tw@t !!! 😎
Being a bell end is not a crime in the UK, which is why this one was not arrested.
I live in Spain and really hope they come here and try that.
It wouldn't change much, he would be charged with disrespect to authority and may spend a couple of days im the slammer (and fined), but most of the situation would be the same.
He would be locked up after asking the same stupid question for the third time.
A few days to cool off behind bars. Plenty of time to reflect how well he educated the police of a different country 😂.
Okay, there was a crime committed, that the police were investigating. As far as I am aware, the police are entitled to detain any possible witnesses or suspects while they interview people and so on. This guy was not being at all helpful. In some countries he could have found himself in a jail cell or worse. But the UK is civilized.
Someone commented that he did end up in a jailcell for 20 hours.
@janetkizer5956 - agreed! ... their prime job is to conserve the crime-scene! ...( or in this case, answer to the privileged arrogant nuisance! ) 🤣
Yup, and they did actually answer one of his questions - he just didn't hear it cos he was too busy interrupting them. They said they had a description, it was a very rough one they admitted, but he _did_ match what little they had so they were being careful and trying to dot their "i's" and cross their "t's" just in case he _was_ the culprit. So yes they absolutely had a valid legal reason to detain him (and again, they answered that particular question of his multiple times).
Yes - it's almost the classic Agatha Christie/Knives Out scenario - the detective marches into the mansion house and gathers everybody together: "nobody leaves this room until the killer is found"
Usually as a misdirection, the most annoying people in the room will demand to be allowed to leave - but politely told they can't.
This was a case of deliberately trying to wind up the police.
Oh the entitlement! It's a crime scene, sir! You can't just walk off because you say you didn't do or see anything. I mean, don't you think that's exactly what the criminal would say? So yes, you have to stay there till the cops figure it out.
The UK: A person can be held in custody for up to 24 hours before police have to charge them. This increases up to 36 or 96 hours if suspected of a serious crime such as murder and up to 14 days if arrested under the Terrorism Act. This is the longest legal period of pre-charge detention.
So they could decide he is bothersome, arrest him and keep him for 24 hours without charging him with anything and it would not be illegal.
I kinda thought that is how they work. You can be arrested for being a public nuisance as far as I know. They won't do it unnecessarily but if he push enough they might just say that they're arresting him on suspicion of X and let him out at 3 or something without charging him at all.
man I really wish "arrested for being a public nuisance" was a bigger thing where I live
The reason for the fluffy pink sponge over the radio is it's used as a distraction. The first two ladies who arrived are most likely community police officers and know the area well. Because that often means dealing with children and sadly having to take children away when crime has been committed, even a little pink fluffy sponge can give the child something to distract from a destressing situation. It's simple and quite clever in its way.
If needed the officers can arrest this person under a number of public order violations, but the practice is to minimise arrests because its a waste of time and paperwork. The mistake is to think that the police are meek similar to the royal guards, under the right circumstances they will act, notice the extra officers appearing as this guy becomes more difficult this is a subtle escalation of threat assessment
Very much this. As soon as the Sergeant is called in you just know they two women assessed him as potentially dangerous. I believe the rule for suspects resisting arrest is 3 cops for one suspect. But of course more help more, if only to secure the back.
Start : 2 officers
End : 5 officers. They got ready for troubel, the officers Don’t want the troubel , but They prepere in overnumbers in worse case.
@@lippyausletzeburg1455 Still small potatos by American standards. Ever watched an American police car chase it usually turns into a giant convoy.
The police are a lot like the royal guards. They will put up with a lot, but you may get a warning, or a shove, if you cross the line.
"Make Way For The Queen's / King's Guards!"
🥸I see far better training when using comms in the UK!... right up to getting dog handlers, and armed sections, that really know how to handle a situation FAR better than the "American cowboys" approach!
his actions are holding up the investigation, in the end there are 6 officers involfed with him. If he cooperated he would probably been free to go before the end of the video.
Exactly I mean he is just making them think why is this guy getting so worked up? Could he be the one we are looking for?
@madmax6220 - AND he'd get to take a piss!! 🚾 🤗🤣
@@MysticalJessicaif I remember correctly he ends up getting himself arrested
Seems to be a very different approach with people and the police, in the UK most people would hang around to help the police where as it seems in America everyone ones to get away??? I would not say the Police got "Owned", I would say he showed himself to be a total fool and ignorant of where he was
My understanding is US police will try to pin things on whoever seems easiest to bully into a guilty plea.
Also being detained over there can mean having to post bail or stay in a cell for an unspecified amount of time, consequently losing your job.
The disrespect is disgusting from this guy.
Dear lord, if you're gonna go to other countries, respect the goddamn locals. You don't know their tradition and what they are like, and being rude to them whilst YOU'RE the one who doesn't know these rules is just incredibly immature and stupid.
If he shut his trap long enough for the officer to explain instead of showing his ignorance he would be able to leave once it's sorted. We don't behave towards our police officers the way you do in America, we have more respect, so you show our police the respect we would.