American reacts to Remarkable British Police Chase
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- Thank you for watching me, a humble American, react to a wild British police chase
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If you can't be 'composed' as a cop, you should not be a cop. US cops should take note.
What a load of crap, put british cops in the US and they would crumble in days with the about of crap a US cop has to put up with.
@@VeggieManUK Maybe using British methods would lead to less confrontation in the first place? We get fewer murders than you, so it works for us. Put US cops out over here and they'd be in trouble in no time without their guns (AKA penis extensions).
@@VeggieManUK Put British cops in the U.S. and watch how many otherwise fatal situations would get resolved peacefully. Many American cops are just uniformed thugs who should be behind bars instead of in front of them. They're more interested in whipping it out to show what a big man they are, than enforcing the actual laws.
If they sound excited the sinior officer will stand down the chase
@@VeggieManUK why do you think UK cops don't deal with exactly the same stuff here?
That car can run for 8 hours and still be followed, the police will just follow it forever. The problem with being to aggressive is that you force the 'criminal' to be more reckless thus putting more people at risk. Given the size of British roads - ask any American tourist who struggles with British roads - a BMW going at 100 mph through town streets is quite scary. Very, very well trained drivers who have one eye on public safety rather than just the criminal. These guys are full time professional drivers from a country that provides great F1 & Rally drivers, amazing!
Exactly. And hardly anyone gets away once the police get the chopper out.
The chase is also being observed in the Control Room and the Inspector there can order the chase to be aborted if s/he considers that the situation has become too dangerous.
Was about to say this they constantly risk assess, i.e., if the car is in a very populated area or the weather is dangerous, they abort and either just follow with the helicopter or get them at another time @hilarypower6217
People regularly do 80mph on country roads in England, and over 100mph on motorways isn't uncommon either. 80mph during a police chase on a motorway is really very slow. Most people do that on their way to work.
So you want to gamble that this driver can keep this up without killing a pedestrian or other road user for 8 hours? Pathetic. The problem with not being aggressive enough i.e. banning pursuits, is that young criminals learn they can just escalate the danger and get away with their crimes. Which only emboldens them to get worse. Prove me wrong. Police in many countries can't wait to claim crime has gone down over the years but there's no question the violence has increased, MARKEDLY. Too much crime is not nipped in the bud early.
We don't 'sometimes' use Miles Per Hour in the UK. We always do and always have done.
I don’t even understand his comment.
@@ymk8355We use metric for most other things and probably would for this as well if there was the money or bother for changing every road sign in the country
@@ymk8355Ryan asked "why do you sometimes use miles per hour", falling in the "Europe is a homogenous thing" trap. Most of Europe uses kilometers, but the UK uses miles (and some UK citizens take quite some pride in that).
@@daanwilmer No idea why anyone takes pride in it. If we switched to kph and kilometers distance on road signs it wouldn't be the end of the world. It would just represent an upfront cost that nobody has been able to stomach in replacing all the road signs.
@@stuartmorgan3654It’s also a safety thing as most people are used to MPH not KPH. It ain’t broke so why fix it?
Our sentencing in the UK is shockingly lenient.
Our system is a lot fairer.
We give people a second chance here, or a chance to work their way up to a bigger sentence, whereas over there you hear about young kids serving 50 years for minor and first time offences.
People in prisons in the U.S don't have rehabilitation programmes that help them find new employment and a chance at life.
@@user-ho7mg9ol7w The man who threatened to kill my tiny neighbour for just stepping out of her front door with her 3yr old already had 72 prior convictions, including violence and drug dealing. He required an armed raid to safely arrest him. There is a middle ground between a 50yr sentence and short sentences that mean and do nothing, including nowhere near enough time for rehabilitation which has to start when they're in prison. Most of the recent rioters had prior convictions. One had had a 32yr criminal career. They were emboldened because they had no fear of police, the courts or prison. There's second changes and there's allowing violent criminals to repeatedly make our lives a misery.
Especially when it comes to motoring offences
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In England criminals often get dozens of chances, while the innocent pay by being victims of crime, sometimes with their life - while judges and lawyers profit.
@@user-ho7mg9ol7wHow is giving someone a lenient sentence “fair”???
I live in the uk and have ALWAYS hated how our sentencing is, giving someone a sentence fitting the crime is what is fair. I’ve seen pedos get 14 years which is absolutely disgusting. Should be life in prison.
And giving someone a lenient sentence isn’t “rehabilitation”. They are STILL extremely likely to become a repeat offender.
Ordinarily British police do not carry deadly weapons. Armed response has to be specially ordered.
Did somebody say JUST EAT
the exception is Northern Ireland where all police are armed 24/7 on and off duty.
@@george-ev1dq There's specific circumstances where PSNI can be armed off duty, but it's definitely not the norm.
AFOs patrol just like regular officers, it's really not that unusual to encounter them during situations where there would be no need for a firearm.
@@wallythewondercorncake8657 Most are armed, the choice is left to the individual officer
My Dad was an advanced Police Driving instructor in both Thames Valley and Hampshire constabulary in the UK. He was considered an expert in high speed pursuits in cars and on motorcycles and often would lead the special escorts of HRH Queen Elizabeth and the Royal family. He was very imposing at 6ft 8in and people never messed with him as he could really take care of himself and would dwarf most people as he was considered a giant!
Did he teach you any tips like what to do if someone is chasing you, or if your brakes go out when you’re driving downhill etc?
Yeah service your car regularly like a sensible human being. If being chased call 999 and drive to your nearest active police station. Also… don’t piss people off so much that they want to chase you. Duh.
Preservation of life is more important than catching someone and putting people at risk. UK cops work this way
Catch someone just to lock them up for a year whats the point they just do it again
I think the preservation of innocent bystander lives is more important, but sure.
@@CristiNeagu For most if not all european police you can say there is a hierarchy, what to avoid when it comes to injuries or damages due to actions taken, in that order: innocent or more uninvolved bystanders, Officers, the suspect itself, material damages.
This is valid for car chases as well as use of guns etc.
The latter one being a very specific topic in the UK, as most police officers are not allowed to, and in fact do not want to, carry guns. Or in Norway, where police officers usually keep their guns locked away in a safe in the car, and depending on the situation they can decide and radio in, if they will carry the gun or not. (Most times they don´t)
@@alexanderkupke920 That kind of mentality worked well a few decades ago, when Britain was a peaceful, quiet country. Now violent crime is a daily reality, and the police are not capable of dealing with it, and people are suffering because of it. It's past time you collectively realize this isn't working any longer.
@@CristiNeagu Have you abolished violent crime in your country?
Regarding the guy refusing to take the drug test, that's seen as being worse than actually taking the test and failing it. It's pretty much an admission of guilt AND perverting the course of justice on top of that.
I thought if you refused to test for alcohol you got done for drink driving, so I'm not sure why it's not the same for drugs tests. That said, I think it's stupid to prosecute people for drug driving who might have taken the drugs 2 weeks ago. There is no way anyone who has smoked a joint or taken cocaine is impaired for 2-3weeks afterwards. That's ridiculous.
@@Alex-iq5bi Yeah, it's a dumb system created by people who have no idea what they are talking about. I'll give an example. I was unfortunate enough to spend some time in prison during the 90's (guilty) and we would get random drug tests. After a drug test, you couldn't get another one for at least 28 days if you tested positive for cannabis, because that's how long cannabis could last in your system. The result? Inmates were taking heroin instead, because that would leave your system in 48 hours. Genius plan from those in charge 🙄
We always use miles per hour
so 70 miles per hour is quite possible.... it is around 112 kms/ hour, this speed is not surprising me
@@christianibarbia9380Our Motorways (highways) have a speed limit of 70 MPH
I don't know why though. Kmh makes so much more sense
@@bakersmileyface what I often hear is metrication cost. Replacing signs with both km/H and mph would be confusing, and replacing them directly... well it would require massive information campaign and replacing them all at once. And no UK government have wanted to deal with that kind of cost.
And also probably a lot of DGAF, the "important" stuff has been metricated, foreigners all have GPS, not a big deal to keep the UK roads in mph.
@@LeSarthois In Australia we use the metric system .. our speed signs are in Kilometers per hour and the vehicle speedo's are in Kilometers per hour although most also include the MPH as a secondary smaller reference. As far as I'm aware, Police reports are in KPH.
Maybe a serving Police Officer could clarify for us.
My nephew is currently a UK Police Interceptor & my uncle used to be a traffic cop. It's a highly skilled job. They have so much training to complete. In a professional career, you should never let emotions get the better of you & cloud your judgement. Anybody that can't be calm & unable to treat everyone with respect will not pass the tests to become an Interceptor. By the way, all cops have ANPR in their vehicles so they are alerted if a vehicle has been stolen or doesn't have insurance. ANPR is Automatic Number Plate Recognition. I used mange that system a few years ago for British Customs. It is an excellent tool for Police & Customs
In uk they can tell if you have mot insirance and who the driver should be from ypur number plate. Automatoc number plate reader
what is used mange? Is it fishy ?
And they also use the spiky strips to puncture the tyres of vehicles they are trying to stop,just it tends to be called a Stinger over here.
One of the more amusing conclusions to one of these police chases that I saw on TV is when the driver being pursued abandoned the vehicle and did a runner...only to be found by the helicopter's night vision cowering in the corner of a field having been surrounded by a herd of cows!
Wow a whole family of grasses good for you 😂
America is backwards in so many different ways.
How can you not check insurance by the plate
Because that is private information between you and the insurance company, and is protected by the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution.
Yeah, damn that pesky privacy!
@@TransoceanicOutreach imagine using this excuse when you're guilty of insurance fraud: "You can't look at my accounts, the 4th Amendment says I have privacy rights!". Such a silly country
it's different in america
In America, cars are not insured
In America you have your own personal insurance that covers the vehicle you drive, but does not cover your girlfriend or wife (if not specified in the insurance policy)
means if your friend sits in your car, he is not insured if he does not have "his own private" insurance
In Europe, every vehicle is insured, regardless of who drives it
@@TransoceanicOutreach how can it be private between the insurance company and owner if they don’t have insurance 🤔?
British sentencing is a JOKE. He should have at the very least been charged with reckless endangerment. And I'd bump that up to attempted murder.
And you would have absolutely zero legal standing to do so. Thank God you aren't a judge.
Attempted murder requires PROVING that there was an intent to commit that crime, and is therefore notoriously difficult to prove.
Our officers are generally much calmer than in the US. They don't feel like they need to star in their own blockbuster movie so they'll stay chilled until they safely bring the porsche to a stop.
They go through a lot more training than US police and are trained to de-escalate situations rather than escalate like they do in the US.
US police are poorly trained compared to most other Western countries.
Yeah, because they know it’s extremely rare for a perp to actually have a gun etc. whereas American police can be shot at any moment.
Also, in the UK, they’re in very little danger of being shot.
*Porsche
yes, I've seen the British police on the news - dancing congas etc. really classy! And harassing ordinary people for not wearing masks or obeying the insane rules of a totalitarian state. No - you British police have lost the world-s respect. So, shut up about the American police. (BTW - I am not American, nor UK)
He won’t do 14 months. Half is the norm as long as you behave .
Precisely, some prisoners only 40% now too, so long as they are eligible. Time can be added to your conditional release date if you receive adjudications in custody, but even those with adjudications don't necessarily have time added. Obviously this is all a bit different if you receive a life sentence or for those still subject to IPP sentences
Running a plate check here in the UK will provide the police with everything they need to know about the vehicle. Yes we do use mph to measure the speed of a vehicle.
Same in Australia
@@9wombats mph too ? I thought Ozz was strictly metric with km/h ...
i think all commonwealth countries use mph or former british colonies, but use metric for everything else
@@ablobfish5104 NZ uses kmh.
@@ablobfish5104 canada use km and kph afaik
My brother in law was a fully trained and qualified pursuit driver based out of Coleshill, Warwickshire, he patrolled all the major motorways . He learned offensive and defensive driving in North Wales on those tiny mountain roads.
In truth the crims haven't got a chance. I also know a former helicopte police officer. She used to do the tracking and commentary.
Just FYI , refusing an alcohol/drugs test is the same punishment as failing one. 12 month driving ban. Also if he was sentenced to 14 months imprisonment, he will be out after 7 months providing that he has had good conduct whilst inside.
That's changed. It is often more than that now depending on the nature of the offence.
@@TheMcspreaderonly if it breaches queer stalins hate speech… today he’d be released almost instantly to make room for political prisoners
Starmer is letting people out after serving 40%. The guy could be out after serving 5 months and 2 weeks.
He will ignore the ban like he was ignoring his previous ban.
How did a loser like him get a girlfriend with a Porsche?!
In UK, when you’re caught driving an uninsured car, it can be seized and CRUSHED! 😊
I don't think it was the car that was uninsured it was the driver.
9:00 If you are not calm, if you swear and if you don't have your emotions under control, feeling the urge to demonstrate the power given by the state, you shouldn't be a police officer.
A police officer has to carry himself by talking politely, often speaking more than 1 language, having a broad vocabular. Every police officer carries a unfirorm. Whereas some police officers in the US being their own tactical gear, sometimes making them look like a group of mercenaries, the UK, Germany, France, Scandinavia and other countries/regions, have very high standards for police officers. Behave politely, talk to the people like they talk to you.
Germany requires you to have a basic training of 3 years with 2 years being trained with a partner during duty. So 5 years in total and you are never alone in a police car (you are 2-8 police officers per patrol car). If you want to start a higher rank, similar to a seargent or a commissioner, you have to go to university, get your degree with 4-5 years with an additional training of 1.5 to 2 years on duty with an experienced police officer.
Any wrongdoing, criminal activity, is hardly punished, leading to your contract being discontinued followed by a lawsuit.
Furthermore, you can't state-hop like in the US. If you are fired, you are fired. You can't ride on horseback to the next sheriff and ask to be a deputy.
I've lived in the USA, NC for quite some time as well as in Wales, Cardiff and southwest Germany. Police in Europe is definitely different. You can approach them without having the feeling of taking to someone "superior". You can ask for a picture of they are on patrol, you can have a chat, you can ask for directions or if they have a good day they might be in the mood to show you the police car.
10:50 In the worst case you are dealing with a person that is in a very bad mental state. Imagine your closest family member, your kid or the love of your life having a mental breakdown and a psychiatry unit wasn't as secure as it should be. You wouldn't want a car ramming into them I guess.
Very well said.
I think you mean punished harshly. Hardly punished means almost never punished.
Always one 🤣
Very well said
@@AIHumanEquality Mostly you get a short sentence or sometimes even a just a fine, so "hardly punished" can be correct.
You know an American has been watching too much British content when their review of something wild is "overall....quite good" 😂
the reason why they said something like "7-0" is because say the number 15 can be confused with 50, so to make it more clear they say 5 0 and not 50
It also makes it clear to the people in the contrl room the speed so that people with less involvement can order the cars to easy off and just follow the idiot with the helicopter.
I think he was expecting kilometres per hour in a European country. Our use of hybrid measurement units often confuse them across the water.
I don’t know if Ryan is bloody thick or something but you’d think by now with all the videos he’s uploaded that Britain still has miles per hour!
@@glennlingard7851 You got him right in your first sentence, also likes the sound of his own unintelligent comments.
"Alexa set timer for 50 minutes". Alexa says "15 minute timer set". It does my head in all the time, lol. ; D
14 months means he will be out on parole in 7 months, unfortunately.
In Europe just because there's a firearm at your hip doesn't mean it's drawn out all the time. That's an American thing. Danish police have guns at their side but it could take years before they ever draw it out. Only nutcases will come at them with guns. The average criminal won't have anything but a screwdriver on him, so a bit weird to pull out a gun. The cop would be seen as a nutter himself if they pull out a gun to someone who's not trying to shoot somebody. There's not more than 10 times where it was really needed since WWII.
A screwdriver can cause deadly injuries and I wouldn't have any problem with a cop anywhere readying their weapon if confronted by some nutjob, especially if on their own. You don't know the strength or the fighting skill of whoever you're facing, it's stupid to risk not going home to your child because you gamble that you'll be able to disarm the stranger in front of you before he stabs you.
@@chocolate_squiggle where's are you from.? I dint think you gwt Scandinavia. Here therea not really any confrontation between homeowners and thieves. Thays not something that happens here. Theres not even a case a year. We had some 15 years ago but that's people coming up and stealing from outside Denmark. No body really wants to break in if theres someone home. And the case where people being robbed gets attacked by the robber are so rare... So unless you're 90 and dies from someone surprising you then its not really a thing. Last time i saw something crqzy that needed the police was at a bar back in 1988. Was with my cousin, so remember it well.. Came from the screening of Blade Runner. 😎
Similarly in Australia, all police are armed but very unlikely to pull a gun. We have had strict gun laws sincePort Arthur massacre when guns were banned and confiscated. Interesting too we haven’t had an insurrection either so perhaps America does not need the second amendment in how it’s currently interpreted.
@@brightonbabe2139 i have yet to see a cop use a gun. And they have them. But i know they use them in some incident a few times a year. All that stuff is not even monthly here. Never seen Anyone beong chased either. As i say, our cop shows are so boring. Its 16 year olds getting done for tuned out mopeds for the last 28 years now... Can we plaese have just one bank robbery soon guys.. 😅
Sadly there is an 'automatic' 50% parole for ALL prisoners in the UK, so this guy will only serve 7 months
In Belgium it's even worse, with the "law Lejeune" they only serve 1/3th of the sentence when they show good behavior... Criminals laugh out loud...
insurance is generally linked to the registration which contains the license plate so they can yes.
They can also tell if it has a valid M.O.T (UK annual certificate of roadworthyness)
In the UK, we call them number (or registration) plates because, unlike in some countries, they are not linked to licencing.
@@neilpickup237 The police can link in to the DVLA (Driver and Vehicle Licensing Authority) data base to establish whether the car is registered for use on the road and whether road fund license has been paid or whether it has a statutory off-road notice i.e. a registered vehicle that is temporarily laid up/ In addition the vehicle insurance, the MOT and who the vehicle is registered to. Its a comprehensive list that makes it very difficult for unlawful vehicles to be used.
In Italy anyone can look up a license plate online and see if it has valid insurance
In the UK insurance status and whether road tax has been paid can be checked online by anyone.
@TheMcspreader Not without restrictions.
To obtain details from DVLA for your own vehicle, you need to provide the 11-digit reference number from the registration document.
Otherwise, you need to query the MIB database, provide personal details, and the reason for your query.
A fee may be payable.
Wtf is wrong with my country? The guy needed 5 years for that!
5 years at the expense of the tax payer to keep him there and the likelyhood is he will just reoffend once released. Best course of action is rehabilitation not excessive incarceration. He didn't harm anyone, you can't imprison someone based on "what if's" or assumptions you need intent to make those charges stick.
What is he going to do in prison for 5 years? That would cost the taxpayer something like 100,000 GBP just to house him for 2 and a half years. And spare me the "he's gonna drive anyway" argument, if that's the case he will be doing that in 7 months or 2 years, there is no point wasting that much money when there is little rehabilitation to be done with a man like this in a prison. It's this dumb, reactionary and emotional response to criminal offences that leads to the broken prison system we have, that is caught up in a bipolar dichotomy between rehabilitation and punishment.
The crucial point is that British Police have no lawful reason or excuse to endanger another persons life; our police do have firearms training but it is a specialism that is rarely used in ordinary policing. Accidents happen but those officers involved usually lose their warrant to enforce the King's Peace after investigation?
By letting a criminal continue is assuredly endangering the public.
@@boroblueyes Criminals often abandon the vehicle as it can be tracked through ANPR cameras etc here. If they're driving in an extremely dangerous manner, continuing to pursue prevents them from wanting to get out of the car as on foot they're more likely to be caught while police are near them, but if they think they've got away, being on foot gives them the advantage of getting away from the roads (can easily hide in gardens, etc all a lot closer to the roads in the UK than the US), and not being associated with the suspect vehicle reduces the evidence of them being in it, so they're more likely to ditch the vehicle. When safety is the top concern, the police want them out of the vehicle more than an arrest or a body recovery from a crash, so they 'let them get away', but as you can see, these sorts of high risk chases usually get a helicopter, so they can keep following them until they do abandon the vehicle, then swamp the area with officers, dog units, etc to close in on them.
@@boroblueyes There's always a risk analysis between the risk to public, risk to police and risk to the driver. In this case it was late at night and not much else on the roads, if it had been busier, he'd have been stopped much faster.
@@nlwilson4892 studies in the U. S. has shown that the biggest factor for collateral damage from police chases is 1) time engaged in the chase 2) distance traveled in the chase 3) the speed of the chase.
The conclusion is to rapidly stop the criminal as quickly as possible to reduce the risk of collateral damage during a police chase.
He'll only do half of the 14 months. British justice system is a joke
In England the police cars have a thing called an ANPR it stands for automatic number plate reader!
We have Number plate recognition here in Australia as well.No need to carry Registration papers or Insurance papers. Having paid your Rego, it includes Compulsory Third Party Insurance which covers All passengers for injuries. You only have to buy Comprehensive Insurance which covers Both vehicles and all passengers and the driver…or just buy Third Party Property Insurance so the other car is Fully covered if you are at fault. Then you wear the loss on your car yourself.Easy.
The US has that as well but they don't check for insurance. Somehow they didn't manage to connect it?
@@BlueFlash215 Insurance information is private between you and the insurance company, and is protected by the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution. They are not allowed to access it.
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in Europe it is different, every car/truck has to undergo a periodic test and every vehicle has its own insurance policy
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private cars once a year or every two years
commercial vehicles every 3/4/6 months (depending on type, size and purpose)
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when the vehicle passes the technical inspection, it is entered in the state police register, the number of the car insurance policy is linked to this information and the period and when the insurance is valid
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the police have either stationary cameras (or they use a mobile center in a van) and when the camera captures the license plate, the computer pulls the information about the vehicle if its registration or insurance has expired
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now in the EU, all the police are connected and within a minute it is easy to check the registration of any car from an EU member state
It is flawed though, it will only detect if a car is insured by “someone”, and that someone isn’t necessarily the driver
If you refuse a test, you are assumed to be massively over the limit with drugs or alcohol. The ban starts after the end of the custodial sentence.
When guns are mentioned, a lot of Americans say “it’s for our freedom!” Referring to when they were used to stand up to the government. But as far as I can see, all they do is make you terrified of the police.
And make the police terrified and twitchy when they stop some people, especially when the driver declares they have a gun on them or in their car, they usually proper shit themselves when they know the person they’re interacting with has one.
And our British police now arresting and jailing you for flying a flag or liking a tweet is something not to be terrified at. I'll take the Yank cops over ours any day.
Not so. They also allow thousands of people to be accidentally killed in the home, usually kids finding them in unsecured locations.
And they allow thousands of people who had a little too much to drink take their own life in a moment of insanity.
They also allow sociopaths to mow down dozens in a church, or a school, or a supermarket.
What they definitely won't do is the one thing a lot of these idiots claim they need them for. If the US government ever does become a despotic regime (which could happen, depending on how Americans vote in November) there is no chance of any AR-15 taking out a drone.
@@lauren-caitwright921 The majority of Americans don't even own firearms and the majority also believe they should be restricted in America. It's just the few loud gun owners and NRA that throws tantrums about having their precious guns.
@@eirebhoy132 That's also because American cops are barely trained.
Wow. Banned from driving for 67 months, but he's already banned and that obviously didn't stop him.
Also only 14 months custodial sentence for all that?!
UK Traffic officers are specialists.
They will avoid collisions until ready to close the box.
If you fail to provide, you are charged with that offence, which has the same result as if you were under the influence.
I'm surprised he didn't get a hefty fine, to at least cover the damage to the police vehicles 🤔 He got off lightly, what a prat!!! 🙋♀️🇬🇧🇺🇲💖
I'd bet he has to pay quite a bit, but it's just not mentioned.
Like when they catch bank robbers, it's never mentioned that they have to give the money back, but of course they do...
🤞 Tks for your msg, 🙋♀️🇬🇧🤪
Generally in the UK you get either a fine/compensation or another type of punishment, rarely both. As for paying, when he does get to drive again his insurance is going to be sky high.
That's a good point, it good effectively add years to his ban, although he is the type to drive without insurance. I think that was the case this time. His type always think that they can get away with whatever they like, however, he is a marked man so let's hope we've seen the back of him on the roads.
Thanks for your response 🙋♀️🤗@@nlwilson4892
Well, banned from driving, the amount he'll have to pay in bus and train fares and to comp people for giving him lifts will be more than enough
The worst thing about the 14 month sentence is he will be back out in 7 months and probably driving the next day...
They can tell whether it's insured ,taxed and has a Mot ( fitness to be on the road ) which is compulsory after three years
MOT is very hard to get in Northern Ireland due to the long backlog for tests, vehicles are tested on the 4th year but if your car it 5, 6 0r 7 years old it is exempt from an MOT test and a car can be driven on the road without an MOT as long as it has been applied for, getting a VED renewal without an MOT test cert is impossible though as NI VED comes from Wales and they will not provide VED without a test cert, sadly this is forcing a lot of vehicles of the road.
Plus the known address of the registered owner, although this isn't always up to date.
“14 months prison sentence” Is only going to be 7 actual months because they release people half way through. But given the prisons are so full he may well be released even earlier
The police interceptors are the division of the police force that tackle police chases, traffic stops / pull overs and overall traffic.
And they have to pass an advanced driving course.
@@speleokeir true.
The 'shiny shoes' other police call them
They get bigger faster cars to.
@@evillabrador1 Not always larger but normally faster.
German here, that show is "Police Interceptors" and there have been many seasons were they followed different police departments all over England.
I always found it fascinating when they did pursuits or traffic stops maneuvers like this because they do things very specifically, like when they turn onto another road they relay that thrice or for these boxing in maneuvers like you see in the beginning they need to get special approval and then they execute it in a certain way, depending on how many cars there are.
I reckon it takes a lot of training to have 3 or 4 cars simultaneously box in and slow down a moving vehicle.
It always looks more clinical then the police chases you see out of the US.
We have never used anything but miles per hour in the U.K. When we changed to decimalisation in the U.K. it was deemed too expensive to change all road signs to kilometres
Decimalisation was about changing money, not units of measurement. You’re thinking of metrication.
"at least he didn't go over 100mph". The cop literally said he was chasing him at 130 mph and said at least he didn't max out at 155.
so refreshing that this guy asks questions and just googles the answer quickly,has a quick edit and is better informed, unlike mcjibbin who just gets frustrated not knowing and refuses to edit anything ever.
To start with in the UK we always use miles per hour,secondly our traffic officers do not carry guns and even our armed units would not shoot at a vehicle moving in traffic.They rarely use the pit manoeuvre, instead the TPAC is the chosen method of stopping vehicles ,our officers don't smash up their cars deliberately.You are even surprised when one of the police vehicles stops from running him over. All I can say is thank goodness we have calm police officers instead of the USA cowboys.
In the UK all suspects thought to be involved in any crime should not be identified in advance of any charges or appearance before the courts. Hence lack of identification.
since it's mentioned at the end what his sentence was, obviously he went to court and was found guilty of the crimes. No need to hide his face. Show it so people can staya away from him. It's not like they didn't know this when they were editing the footage....
@@xSG1969x There might be appeals in place for some of it, or some other offences that we weren't shown.
Or it might be an overabundance of caution on the part of the programme.
@@xSG1969x he still has to give permission for his image to be used in a TV show, which he probably didn't.
@@trishloughman5998he was photographed on the main channel when it was on live tv
They are always calm. When i watch American cops shouting and swearing at offenders, it shows a lack of control,fear and poor impulse control.
Road distances in the UK and speeds use miles in the UK. Although mainland Europe are pretty much fully metric, we use an odd mixture of imperial and metric in the UK... we measure beer in pints, distance in miles, human weight in stones and pounds, feet and inches for height etc. But we use metric for temperature (Celcius), grams for food weights, litres for fuel and for other liquids etc.
I am french and understand everything you said, but "human wiehgt in STONES and pound"..... what do you mean by "stones" ???
@@christianibarbia9380 One stone = 14 pounds. So, if someone weighs "174 pounds", we would say "12 stone 6 pounds".
@@christianibarbia9380 One stone is equal to 14 pounds.
One weird thing is, when we buy fuel for our cars we buy in litres, but when we talk about fuel economy we use "miles per gallon". Confusing right? And our gallon is 4.54 litres, which is different from a US gallon which is is only 3.8 litres! Somehow we just do all this stuff and get on with things... but anyone visiting from outside the UK would be lost!
As my dad says: 'Brittain goes metric, inch by inch'
The moment they had him, imagining that happening in the US, slammed to the ground, handcuffed maybe a little " qualified immunity" violence , surrounded by cops with drawn weapons...
15:45 One honest question: The law in the US has prison times that can easily be 25 to live. Imagine being locked up for 25 years. Imagine being locked up 1995 and being released in 2020. Everything you've missed.
Do the hard punishments in the USA deter from crime being committed? It doesn't seems like. The US still has the most people locked up per capita and every fourth prisoner on earth is statistically a US citizen.
Furthermore, the approach in the US with blank cells, being locked up for 23 hours in a cell with a 1 hour in a common room or in a fence und there sky.... How does that help society? Tax payers finance that. Instead you can have this person learn about life, being rehabilated in 14 months.
Sometimes crime isn't punished enough in Europe on the other hand there is no evidence it makes a difference.
Prison cells in Norway in the 50s and 60s pretty much looked like the USA. They had crime rising nevertheless. They changed their whole prison system, giving prisoners a lot of freedom while still suffering being away from friendly, family, society. They made them being able to learn a trade and get a job. Instead of having someone that doesn't know anything about the world and can't vote, can't apply for many jobs, can't study at some universities, can't apply for certain houses/apartments like the US handles it, Norway found the better method.
You are wildly misinformed.
@@wallythewondercorncake8657 Then tell us the true numbers! Teach us, but please not with "believe", "hearsay" and so on. Give independet sources. I bet you can´t.
@@BlueFlash215 That's the norm across much of the EU.
Long term convictions and 3 strike laws made that in the US, more than 1 in 100 US American men is in prison !! The societal costs of the entire prison system in US are huge. In prison budgets, social costs for the families, post prison trauma etc.
In Norway, with low penalties, soft prison regimes and reintegration programs , recidivism of inmates is among the lowest in the world with 20% !
(I wish my country would follow these programs more ).
Plus we spend so, so much money imprisoning people. It costs what, 556k per year you imprison someone in New York City? Higher than most, but even the cheaper states it often costs more than someone makes in a year. And after a certain point, imprisonment just makes someone more likely to be a criminal on release. So we're often paying fortunes in order to increase net criminality within a system while erasing future economic contributions from offenders. As is, it's a badly designed, badly implemented system.
Refusing to take an alchohol or drug test in the UK carries the same penalty as failing one.
Running the license plate in the UK. Will provide the following information for the police.
Is it’s taxed.
Is it insurance.
M.O.T.
Registered owner details.
(Name, address, date of birth)
If the vehicle has been reported stolen or was previously involved in a crime.
A PNC vehicle check doesn't show the drivers DOB. Sometimes, it shows on the insurance. Sometimes, they have to ask the driver for it. Depends what the insurance company have submitted to thr Motor Insurance Bureau.
The UK, New Zealand, Australia, Canada all went metric in the early 70s but in the UK the road signs were supposed to change but the sign guy stopped off for a pint so they never got done.
He's blurred out because he didn't sign a release to be identified on video, it doesn't matter if he's guilty or not.
"Sentenced to 14 months in prison" actually means you go to prison for 7 months and have to wear an ankle tag with a curfew for the other 7. (Actually, earlier this month the Government began releasing criminals from prison after only a third of their sentence due to prison overcrowding). Also this bloke was already banned from driving; so it wasn't his first rodeo, he put many people's lives at risk and had no insurance so the consequences could have been dire if he'd seriously injured or killed somebody. All things considered, I think the sentence was pretty lenient.
Refusing to provide a specimen of breath at the roadside is an arrestable offence in the UK. Once you're taken to a station you're required to provide an evidential specimen of breath on an intox machine, if you refuse that you will be charged with failing to provide, this offence carries the same penalties/sentence as failing the breath test, so it's stupid to fail to provide and it's an easy charge and off to court you go.
in my state, refusing to provide, carries a one year suspension of license. plus in my county, the police will call for paramedics to do an immediate blood draw, and a warrant will be requested at the start of the next business day to analyze it. in the rare occasions the warrant is not signed, the blood is destroyed untested.
@@kenbrown2808 Thats really interesting, how does that get around the warrentless seizure that seems to be a big deal in america? Is that a socially accepted practice or does it get a lot of complaints? I guess the police claim they havent 'searched the blood' until theyve got their warrant?
@@tackybanana7408 I'm not sure of the legal intricacies, but I believe the logic is, "if we have to wake a judge up to get a warrant, you know what he's going to say."
from a legal standpoint, it's a case where delaying the draw would be spoliation of evidence, and it's not an actual search until they do the analysis. I do think I recall when they WOULD call a judge at home and get a verbal authorization. I'm sure a sovcit would squawk, but they squawk any time they are held accountable.
@@kenbrown2808 " I believe the logic is, "if we have to wake a judge up to get a warrant, you know what he's going to say."
" I love that....😆
That sentence is why the public have no confidence in the UK justice system now. Joke sentence and a ban is useless. He’s banned anyway, but still driving.
You're right about the lean sentences....I agree. And I'm a UK citizen. We are a small country and have limited prison space.
its simply comes down to the fact , british police is trained properly and have better law knowledge than us counterparts .
Here in the UK we don't use exclusively metric or imperial. We have a mix of both.
You will see things where we use MPH and almost never kms. But go to shops and we will use grammes and kilos. There's a reason for this of course.
Most of it is that we were in transition somewhat to go over to metric measurements gradually, especially back in 1971 when we ditched pounds, shillings and pence for a straight decimal system. Since then we gradually got rid of some things, but others didn't take on.
The major reason we had grammes and kilos more prevalent in shops for foodstuffs is because it was part of being in the EU.
So we're a weird mix.
It should be sentenced in the same way as if you had been waving about a loaded gun at a cop. Ironically he was already disqualified, so that didn’t work. They should have them doing community work after their sentence for 5 years.
14 months with 5 years 7 months banned from driving is plenty in any civliized country. Most of the world doesn't lock people up for the excessive amounts of time. That's just America and a few other less reputable nations.
In the UK we usually take the civilised position of only incarcerating people for the crimes they have committed, not the ones they 'could have' committed. The driver 'could have' ploughed into a bus queue of children at 150 mph, but he didn't. Having said that, his sentence was a tad lenient for me and I would have doubled it but I don't have to deal with overpopulated prisons or Amnesty Interational.
In any case, it's unlikely he'll comply with a five year ban, so he'll be back behind bars not long after he's released.
Wait till you find out he'll only actually serve about 7 months.
The fact he was able to disable, at the cost to taxpayers multiple police vehicles and will get out on early release (usually only serve half a sentence in the UK) is just why the UK's policing system is not respected by these types of people.
Not sometimes it’s always miles per hour, we use both metric and imperial all the time
speedos must read both KPH and MPH in NI UK otherwise the vehicle will not pass an MOT test
@@george-ev1dq That explains my irish skodas dual display, I always just thought that came standard
@@george-ev1dq I was referring to what we as a nation use not laws
@@george-ev1dqsame for UK mainland. Although newer vehicles allow you to switch between them in the settings menu. If I take the car over to France, I switch it over to KMH to match their speed limits.
@@christopheroliver8762 a vehicle is not required to have KPH for an MOT test in GB, just NI.
The light prison sentence is a bit of a trend in the UK at the moment: one of the major crisises the UK is facing right now is overcrowded prisons, so sentences are getting shorter to compensate
In New South Wales Australia, every police car has automatic number plate recognition. They are hooked into the database and can tell within seconds if your car is unregistered and if the usual driver has a licence or is suspended or cancelled. Your car cannot be registered without CTP - Compulsory Third Party insurance. That is, insurance to cover anyone you injure.
ACT police have been replaced by mobile traffic camera's.
Beggers belief that he only got 14 months. Shows how soft British justice is. He will only serve half before release too. Unreal. No deterrence whatsoever.
Those officers are so calm and composed for a number of reasons. Firstly, they have to have completed a number of years before applying for the specialist interceptor/roads policing department units. They then undergo 4 weeks of intensive driver training. They are then teamed up with an experienced officer who is their “tutor” for six months. They then ride solo for a further six months before going back to complete a further 4 weeks intensive driver training to achieve their advanced driver qualification. THEN they will go on further courses, such as pursuit, VIP protection etc. Every two years they receive refresher training. If they’re REALLY good (like I was😁😁) they get to do the same thing all over again on motorcycles.
The police don't even have to check your plate, the ANPR system built in to the police car automatically checks the database of every plate it sees and alerts the officer if you have no insurance, road tax or valid MOT inspection certificate, or you have a warrant.
You don't understand why we do miles per hour? Thats because we measure road distances in miles.
To be fair, so does the USA.
@@Kit-if3fb The Americans think we are now metric and don't understand why we chop and change.
@@jillybrooke29 Ah, I see. Unlike decimalisation (that happened literally overnight) metrication has been a slow process. Changing the road speed signs would be horrifically expensive ... and funnily enough on we also keep to really ancient measurements, like furlongs, (horse-racing) acres and hectares (farming) and guineas (also horse-racing). And I think we still sell quilting fabric in fat quarters. 🤷♀️😂
@@Kit-if3fb Although we have a choice to measure distance in either miles or kilometres, its always miles per hour in a vehicle, but if you buy something by size it is mostly in millimetres, centimetres and metres. We buy potatoes in kilograms in the supermarket.... although at a market it may still be pounds, Its a mish mash.
@@jillybrooke29 It really is. My step dad (an engineer) said thousandths of an inch were more accurate than mm. And said metrication cost this country a fortune. 8 x 4 plasterboard changed to whatever they changed to, but it wasn't exact so didn't fit the joists that were centuries old. Same with everything down to the tiniest screw and nail. We've never liked conforming really. Sometimes we even use Wales as a unit of measurement. 🤩.
In Australia, ALL police work for the State or Federal government.
The training is extensive and you WILL be held to account for behaviour that is outside the Law.
If you are fired from a force you don't get to move to another and continue on as though nothing happened .. as in the US.
In countries like Australia, New Zealand, the UK the number of Law Enforcement agencies is fairly limited .. unlike the US .. where they have more than 18,000 public and private Law Enforcement agencies .. MANY with minimal training and poor training standards. 'Privatisation' gone mad!!
The UK police are now extremely effective at enforcing insurance, licences etc. If you don't want to get caught, you don't do it. One thing you may not know is that driving without insurance is taken very seriously in the UK. Most people strongly disapprove of it!
The miles vs km per hour is now easy to remember. In the EU it is km per hour only the UK sticks to miles per hour😂
It's called "imperial" units for a reason. ;)
(Then again, most countries in Europe used miles; probably not the same miles, though ^^)
@@thespectator1243 Funny enough wasn't it the Emperor Napoleon who introduced the metric system all over Europe 🤔
@@vanillalux6537 I was referring to the United Kingdom as the empire in question; but yes, as far as I know Napoleon did play a big role in spreading the metric system.
But since it was already know as the metric system... apparently Napoleon was either not willing or able to rename it to something else... we might have ended with the Napoleonioc System, maybe... ? ;)
Did you notice how there was no utterly ridiculous roadside sobriety test done like they do in the USA? Walk in a straight line with one leg in the air while touching your nose bollocks. Its straight to the breathaliser, and then a blood test. So much quicker, with faster results.
You can tell everything from the cars number plate in the UK. Insurance, licenced driver, road tax and MOT.
In the UK we have the DVLA (Driver and Vehicle Licencing Agency) which keeps track of each vehicle registered in the UK. This includes Registered Keeper, MOT status (MOT is an annual vehicle check that all vehicles over three years old must pass to be allowed on public roads) and insurance status. Police have access to the DVLA database and can check the vehicle is road legal via a quick query.
The DVLA cover GB, NI has the DVANI
@george-ev1dq I'm in NI and it's just called DVA. Had my MOT last Saturday.
@@karencalder8540 Driver & Vehicle Agency (DVA) Northern Ireland
Don't worry he'll get a 2 year banned from driving and community service as punishment. He'll be back on the road in a week. Happens all the time.
The way they know he didn't have insurance is because of ANPR cameras on the police car... It's on a lot of British police cars. ANPR is Automated Number Plate Recognition.
Not just on cars, but on many overhead gantry cameras too. ANPR hits result in a fair bit of organised crime being disrupted, because it also links to intelligence on vehicles used in connection with drugs, robbery, etc.
Sure ANPR does the details but does NOT tell you who is driving and whether they are insured!
@@jamesframe-r3g It can indicate whether insurance is held for only a female driver, so if it's a bloke driving, then plod knows it's likely to be worth a pull.
So I used to run sentence calculations in uk sentences in a previous job. 14 months in prison would be a 2 month sentence with the remaining 14 months being a license period on probation. If in the second 14 months he breaches the law he would be taken back to prison often within 48 hours to serve the remaining sentence. This rule remains consistent for most sentences in the uk but there are exceptions.
Will there ever be a time, when ryan understands the simultaneous use of imperial and metric in the uk?^^
@@Woltror we have explained in the comments for years now… so no
Ngl, these cops were actually kinda chill
Insurance companies have to keep database updated on coverage, so a police scan can alert for uninsured just as easily as for warrants tied to the car. As for why this isn’t done in the states, likely privacy concerns + system incompetence. When you have socialised health care, it motivates the gov to sort that out.
The US doesn't give a shit about privacy. It'll be because they don't have the capability.
In the UK you can tell from the number plate. UK land speeds have always been m.p.h.
In the UK we try to box them in and bring them to a slow controlled stop. The cops they gave families they'd prefer to go home to so try to avoid unnecessary violent crashes!
The wiggly lines also mean no parking or stopping so that you don't obstruct line of sight.
If you refuse a test most juries will assume that means you have taken something you shouldn't before driving.
In the UK if you behave in jail you get 50% reduction in practice.
Agree setence should have been 5 years
We exclusively use mph in the UK.
This is the problem in the UK. Police put their lives on the line to stop these lunatics & the courts just give them a slap on the wrist.
No easy choices, you either raise everyone's taxes for more prisons, or reduce spending on something else ... defence? health? education? police? courts? emergency services? pensions? social care? ... seems like all those other things need more money not less, so we're back to raising taxes and nobody wants that.
Don't forget, guns are not common in the UK
He'd get out in 6-8 months with a sentance like that. Brit here and know the score.
Here in the UK we use something called ANPR, [Automatic Number plate Recognition] ether at the road side or fix to Road Policing cars or as we like to call them Interceptors [Specialists in chasing the wanted and anything road crime related]. All linked together and every registered car is on the system and police will know if your car has insurance, along with tax and owners details through the DVLA [Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency]. The ANPR will tell the officers in the on bored computer if the car is reported stolen or alert them to the fact the car has no insurance. They also help with Cloned plates as when the police are told about a cloned car plate, they put it on the system so if it pops up on a camera, they can hunt it down.
Also, West Yorkshire is my Home County.
Interesting....I must remember to disable the car we copied the plates from for the next job.
14:38 Refusal is equal to testing positive in court
in the UK they put automatic cameras in busy spots using automatic number plate recognition to check for MOT, Insurance and Motor tax with police being sent details.
There’s a central insurance database the police can access using the car’s registration number.
The UK uses imperial measurements for most things.
And why is it, an American’s first instinct in a situation like this is “why don’t the police shoot?”. Most countries outside the U.S. don’t have a gun culture and therefore the vast majority of police officers don’t need to carry guns, there are specialist armed response units that are only called upon when a situation requires them, which is not that often.
Not sure about the police not carrying guns in "most countries outside the US". I suspect it's the opposite.
We don’t really, we are mostly converted to metric, not sure why he commented on mph as the yanks use it too
Here in the UK we have ANPR Cameras which detect no insurance or tax. Also we always use mph rather than kph. The programme this is from is police interceptors. Also our regular police don't have guns here either. They have to call armed response vehicles but only do that in extreme circumstances. ❤😊
There is a central computer database called “The Police National Computer that is updated directly from the National vehicle and driving information repository - the “DVLA”. All vehicle taxing/testing/insurance information is available to any police officer, and is often directly wired into a police car via number reading cameras - so an offending vehicle “pings” in the police car.
Im a brit and know our cop cars are more valuable than a very durable crown vic
14 months for what I consider to be attempted murder, but 2 years for waving a British flag outside a mosque. British justice at its best 😡
A proper boxing maneuver isn’t “we’re physically going to force him to stop.” It’s “we’re not giving him a choice other than stopping, by making sure he can’t go left, right or back, and only slow down.” When a boxing maneuver is effective, the police car in front will simple slow down, forcing the fleeing driver to have to break, the other cars are just there to make sure the suspect can’t move past on the left or right. Most of the time, there isn’t even contact between all the cars. There can be, but usually isn’t.
I don’t know about the UK, but in my country (The Netherlands) a pit maneuver comes with considerable paperwork. Because it’s police violence, and therefore there are very strict rules about it. The most important rule is that you _do not_ perform it when there is other traffic around. Because it’s incredibly dangerous. And you _do not_ do it at high speed. Because that causes an unacceptable risk of bodily harm.
If in NL you refuse a drug test or alcohol test, the automatic assumption is that you had the highest amount and get fines for that. The fines only go up to a certain amount, so you get the highest fine possible. Here you can’t get arrested for driving under the influence (unless there is more going on, like you got into an accident, are disturbing the peace, etc).
But again, I have no idea about the UK.
The degree of emphasis on the "shire" leads me to believe Ryan may be messing with us. If not, then he is just one among (tens of?) thousands of North Americans online who cannot - and apparently will not - understand that the last syllable all those British county names are NEVER stressed. In this case, the YORK is stressed. The shire part, as always, sounds like "sher". Yeesh!
(no actual Americans were harmed during the typing of this comment)
But they say New Hampshire ok!
They also didn’t kill him like American cops with their big egos
UK police do sometimes make what they refer to as “tactical contact”, but I get the impression it’s really situational. At high speed and with a vehicle the size a Porsche Cayenne it could cause a pretty spectacular crash so they might not even get approval.
By the way, the UK is a mix of measurements. It’s sort of metric in a lot of things, but with the exception of buying fuel in litres now motoring is still all imperial. Speedometers show MPH (with secondary KM/H markings in case you want to drive in Europe) and all the distances on road signs are yards and miles.
You can get away with MPH only speedos in GB but not in NI where the speedo MUST have KPH regardless of age otherwise the vehicle will fail a NI MOT test.
@@george-ev1dqSort of but in practice not really. Everything registered in the UK since 1984 has to have a speedo showing both with a few exceptions like tractors and motobility scooters. That’s going to be the vast majority of the UK’s private and commercial fleet. And it was already common to put both on for some years before 1984, though obviously the older you go the more likely you’ll find some near unicorn car with MPH only. Maybe a mid 60s Ford Anglia, but maybe not a mid 70s Ford Escort.
@@Dasyurid Yeah but if you take a car or motorcycle for an MOT in GB with a MPH only speedo it will pass, the same vehicle will not pass a test in NI. It is difficult to strip an old speedometer and attach KPH figures to the dial just for an MOT test that is used in a country which only uses MPH.
@@george-ev1dq That surprises me. IANAL but as far as I knew Construction & Use Regs apply throughout the UK. If it is different for NI you’d think anyone with an old classic would simply book an annual ferry trip to Liverpool for the MOT test. It’s probably not many people but there’s got to be a handful of Nornish petrolheads who like really old cars. And there must be plenty of old cars still around on the other side of the border that were imported into the Republic before they went metric. Last time I was in Ireland, about 02 or 03, it was still all miles and MPH on the roads there.
@@Dasyurid Costs a small fortune to get an MOT carried out in GB, Vehicles can now be driven in NI without an MOT as long as the test has been applied for, waiting time is around 8 months but sadly a lot of vehicles are forced of the road because they can not obtain VED without an MOT.
They can tell if the car is taxed, insured or mechanically fit (MOT) to be on the road, it is all registered on databases which the police have access to.
Sometimes you ask yourself if a case couldn't be made for arming police helicopters with air to ground missiles.
shocking that you can end a pursuit without injuring the person fleeing or using deadly force