There was an interview on why they didn't go to Sonic's world as much and it came down to "A sequel would have the budget to do this if the movie's successful but the first movie won't have that budget"
Spread the positive vibes for a great sequel. I feel like the people behind this project listen and try to appeal to a wide audience. I can see where they decided to play safe at times in this movie, but it still turned out enjoyable.
Regarding the issue with product placement, at least this movie didn't pull a Power Rangers 2017 and have Sonic lose his rings on the roof of an Olive Garden.
I got good news they said in a recent interview that the movie was supposed to have way more of sonics world in the movie but it was cut due to paramount they also said that paramount said if this movie warrants a sequel they will explore me
The little girl saying “gotta go fast!” was adorable. The best parts of the movie are the opening and the last 3rd. I guess as long as you start and finish strong it’s a worthy watch.
GameExplain mentioned on their video this Sonic is still very much a kid, instead of a teenaged Sonic most games refer to. Even with it being a kind of AU where Sonic hadn't met Eggman yet, hadn't learned his favorite food was chili dogs yet, and EVEN hadn't really been shown to know Tails/Knuckles/Shadow/etc on screen, it still posits that this Sonic spent about a decade dimension hopping with no contact to real people, let alone a parental figure. His youth, combined with a lack of anyone to reign him in, means he can't have a filter on his thoughts, had no one to really teach him to control his impulses or powers, and definitely didn't have anyone to really tell him no, let alone stop him. This is a Sonic that hinges his 11th hour in this movie on the fact he DID make a friend for once in his life since leaving Mobius (which makes me curious how this Sonic will interact with Tails) This movie, when taken as an AU origin story while still remaining extremely respectful to the source material, can safely ignore the point of how game!Sonic approaches problem solving and emotions. This is a Sonic still growing up, and thus a Sonic that can deviate a small amount for cinematic purposes. In some senses, one could place this movie, based on the implied age of Sonic, before the first Sonic game. Whether or not it allows the rest of the games to occur depends on him returning home, or otherwise at least gaining the ability to do so. Perhaps in a sequel.
Kevin Pepino why am I in the small group that really liked Heroes? My biggest gripe with the game is that all teams went through the same stages. I think they all should have had Egg Fleet and Final Fortress but they should have had unique adventures without the dumb encounters that resulted in button mashing and anti-climactic boss fights against another Team. I also didn't like the sudden switch to a lighthearted story after sa2’s events and tone.
I see this movie as a young/growing Sonic honestly. The Sonic you describe, the one we see in games, I don't think the film's Sonic is meant to be there. His more childish/vulnerable demeanor, is because of his circumstance, like you said, and because he's still young. I believe IF this becomes a franchise and gets sequels, his character arc will continue and he will become the hero we all grew up with.
This still didn't happen. Sonic in the movies is still pretty much a superhero ala from the MCU. Hence him lecturing Knuckles on being responsible with his ability rather than just tell him to what his heart says.
I want him to be a photorealistic Mortal Kombat-esque character, who can't actually finish a single level because he doesn't run fast enough to get up ramps. He can, however, throw donuts.
4:40 for me, my friends organized at least 20 of us to watch it all together. I think the poor parents that took their kids were confused when we all started cheering and clapping at the end of the movie. I think it was actually kind of good, and I can't wait for the squeal they hinted at. Although, I'm not a fan that Sonic flosses twice. It ruined the ending.
I think Schwartz’s sonic clicked with me. He isn’t perfectly confident like game Sonic but he really wants to be that. I think for a what can best be put as a young sonic he does the part well. I think this being the character who becomes more of a grownup way past cool speedy boy makes a lot of sense. (Even if sometimes he sounded a bit too much like another VA role I know him for) Also yeah I think a sequel could make a lot more of this work and I think they know the demand is for more of the sonic characters in world. Putting Sonic back in what I assume is Mobius? And having him feel like a stranger in his home land could be a very good set up especially for a kids film. The worry is how much does a cast of all CGi characters (with a Carry and a Marsden yes) in an all CGi world like that cost a studio. Probably a lot. So it would probably still be half on Earth which I would happily accept. Earth is this Sonic’s home and it would be a mistake to try and erase the arc he had in this movie by trying to shove him back into living on Mobius just to be more game accurate. All that said the fact that I a long lapsed sonic fan who more so enjoys watching the games and fandom from afar now a days really wants a sequel to this movie and is theorizing about it is telling in and of itself tbh.
"Mobius" Technically, *Mobius is also a twisted version of the Earth* and the name itself doesn't exist if you take the *games* , not material outside of the games. Using some real world settings really isn't out of place. I think that they should change many designs if they want to be more faithful to the games. The original movie design shows why the super realistic setting can bring an uncanny effect (like Sonic 06 did lol). Fun fact, there was a two-episode Sonic animated movie from 1996 only released in Japan, there are also similarities with the Earth. I think that this movie is technically the best videogame adaptation ever made for now (but this doesn't mean that the movie itself is a masterpiece), it's also ahead of detective Pikachu in the box office.
Star masterc bigger opening doesn’t mean bigger overall. It’s yet to be seen how long lasting the sonic movie is. Good chance it does beat pikachu but who knows. Also I know Mobius isn’t always the name but it’s easier to say Mobius then say “the planet in which sonic lives” ya know?
@@audoodle9963 I know that Mobius is easier to say but Sonic Team still doesn't fix this misunderstanding to this day through the games. Also, the movie is also better than Rise of Skywalker if you take rotten tomatoes critics and audience score but i think that movie is a low bar lmao.
Glad to hear your thoughts. I've been waiting to see what you had to say. As a Sonic fan since 93, I literally grew up with him and I've loved him for my whole life. Through all the good and bad times. I had a blast with this movie. The Sega logo made me tear up, then hearing Hyper Potions got me, the end credits scene I just started crying. My girlfriend asked me what was wrong and I was just like. I feel like a kid. Sonic is one of my first memories and seeing him like this was just so much to handle. The movies not perfect, but I loved it anyways. You grow up and man sometimes life just really kicks the shit out of you. Then something comes along and just makes you remember what it was like being a kid, not worrying about things, and having a good time. This movie did that for me. I hope we get a sequel. The movie deserves one.
1000% agree man. I thought this would be a bad film, but I'm so glad it's not, and Sonic is in a positive light again right now. I wish for Sega to take full advantage of this.
I agree that the overall story was pretty generic... however, I do feel that they got the unavoidable love interest right at the very least. They didn't develop a relationship that felt forced throughout the movie, nor did it "fix" a problematic relationship/divorce like in most Hollywood cashgrabs. Nope, she was there, their relationship was pre-established and heartwarming, she contributed to the plot and she even had a few funny lines and moments herself. I may be exagerating about something that's overall such a tiny part of the movie, but I appreciate the fact that a love interest wasn't a source of tacked-on cringe for once. Take notes, movie directors! An action movie can feature an healthy relationship and still be considered good!
im glad im not the only one who appreciated this aspect of the movie. plus the scenes with the sister were pretty funny, almost seems like an inside slap in the face to movies that do have the generic troubled relationship stories tacked on, having the judging sister , which in typical movies would be an aspect of the troubled relationship cliche, was treated as a joke and generally unimportant
After watching the movie, my absolute favorite part in the show was the Tails cameo. For me, that set up SO MANY THINGS! For starters, the insane inventions that Tails creates for Sonic to use. Second, a way for Sonic to reconnect with Mobius and POTENTIALLY THE CHAOS EMERALDS, more interaction with the echidna tribe we saw at the beginning of the movie, and maybe an introduction to knuckles. But most importantly, it set up a more serious tone, something not seen in Sonic in probably over 10 years. I like light-hearted fun as much as the next guy, but when all Sonic's about anymore is jokes and giggles, it gets a bit old. Also, I took his emotional vulnerability with a grain of salt. Mostly because he's so young in this, the youngest adaption animation of Sonic to talk most likely. Also, they covered it, they got past it, and even though it was hard for me to accept at first, when I started thinking about it, that really just fit Sonic's character. He's always surrounded himself by friends, and the reason he fights is to protect his friends. I guess without them, he really doesn't have a need to fight, just run away. I mean straight from Sonic 1, he was just saving little animals... So who knows, maybe he developed his love for fighting later in the series of video games, and I guess I can look past that.
Thats the exact thing i had been thinking when i just watched this movie. something i dont see a lot of comments about is that this is an origin story and it sets up the events of how dr robotnik actually got to mobius in the first place. Some people might complain or say it makes no sense that sonic is in the human world, or be upset that there isnt much of sonics homeworld and classic story, but without this direction having eggman in Mobius would be pushed down to a minor, and less interesting, flashback sequence. I honestly believe they are setting the stage for a trilogy. movie one, starts in mobius, then is set on earth. Robotnik is sent to some mushroom land, with few supplies, perhaps where he gains the need to use creatures as power sources. movie 2 will be set in mobius, as obviously tails has a need to find sonic, likely some danger at home. chaos emeralds will be introduced, and knuckles makes an appearance, maybe chaos is the big bad (ties in the echidna tribe from movie 1) at the end of the movie eggman has ended up in mobius and gets his hands on a chaos emerald and begins building his base and robot armies. movie 3 will be set in both worlds, eggman builds a machine that somehow merges the two worlds, theatening both, and that quill he has at the end of the movie, not his way to get back to earth, but using the quill and the power of the chaos emerald(s) he has he manages to clone sonic as a way to take sonic down. this clone is shadow. or scenario 2 (more likely) uses the quill to make metal sonic
No Canon Sonic fights largely for his amusement and his own will (protecting the pretty flowers). His own bio in the JP Bible says he's both fine hanging with friends and meeting ladies but is also fine being alone (see also all the moments in games where Sonic either just catches up with his friends or just runs off when the trouble is over).
Loved Jim Carrey as Eggman and Ben Schwartz as the voice of Sonic, I hope they reprise their roles in the sequels. I also loved Sonic's adorable and charming animation. I appreciate that the story at least wasn't terrible, it was a simple and wholesome buddy-cop-esque movie... But the story will still be forgotten. So, all I hope is that for future movies the plot is less bland cookie-cutout - and more original, more meaningful, and truer to source material.
Woooffff...do not agree at all about Eggman. My friend and I found Jim Carrey’s performance in this movie to be absolutely grating and annoying. Not to be a downer, but every moment he was on-screen was my least favorite moment in the movie lol. Granted, the writing and the script steer the performance, so that’s probably more at fault than Carrey himself. His scene with the military officer could’ve been cut entirely and probably the role of the government on the whole. Would’ve been much better to just have him as a villainous rogue agent acting on his own accord without government-backing.
Sonic, he can really move! Sonic, he's got an attitude! Sonic, he's the fastest thing alive! He's the fastest thing alive!!! He's the fastest thing alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Josh, I really hope you do another one of these for part 2. I seriously enjoyed it and I would think you did too. More than the first. It lived up to the hype and we're getting another one in the future!
Perspective #2 is spot-on how I felt too! It was just a good time, and that's all it really needs to be. I'm glad it's doing great at the box office and with audiences. Also, does anyone else hope Schwartz replaces RCA in the games? I feel like he's the perfect mix of every Sonic VA so far
I think the Sonic movie was trying to play it safe just to see what kind of potential it has. Now that the movie is on its way to becoming the highest grossing video game movie of all time, I think the sequel will be able to take more chances and explore the world of Sonic a lot more.
It was very diluted with non-Sonic things. I enjoyed it mostly, but for those who care: They make Sonic an alien when the first games are set on real world islands around New Zealand. There's lots of dispute and contradictions of what's ''canon'' for Sonic locations, but the whole ''if it's not America it might as well be an alien planet'' message is implicitly there, even if unintentional. He's very clingy and stalkerish. Not the free spirited curious adventurer I know. The cop should contrast him, not be more ambitious than him before he's even met the devil. Sonic is more Amy than Sonic here. Were the writers colourblind? Hmm benefit of the doubt on this one but they better figure it out by the sequel. The American Paddington.
Sonic had so much automated events and spectacle shots nowadays, that they made a film. Wheres the faen depths is my crunchy gameplay in this movie theater?
I think your point at his anxiety is more to do with how young he is in this universe. He is just starting to realize that he can be more of a hero. I think we will see more of his game personality in a sequel. The fact that this movie exists is part of the reason he is my favorite video game character. He is so much more than just his games (thankfully since they vary in quality). He feels as much of an icon as he did growing up.
I did enjoy the movie. The humor was great, and the plot was... decent enough. Jim Carey was amazing. My only main problem was, just as you said, Sonic didn't feel like Sonic. He felt too insecure, too emotional. The character who once said "If you have time to worry, then just run" seems... well, he's still flippant and carefree, WHEN he's flippant and carefree. But he isn't like that all the time, half the time he seems more depressed and reserved and nervous, which was definitely NEVER a trait Sonic has held. Besides from Sonic himself, the rest of the movie was amazing. Especially the references. My absolute FAVORITE one was in the beginning, that the reason that Sonic was forced from his home, because of the power he had, was because of the freaking Echidna Tribe, a tribe KNOWN for power abuse as we would see in Sonic Adventure when they tried to snatch the power of the Emeralds, ultimately leading to their destruction. God that brought such a smile to my face.
I don't wanna be that guy, but I really don't get your critique of Sonic as being "emotionally vulnerable." Since Colors, excluding his fantastic characterization in IDW, Sonic has been written with all the personality of Mickey Mouse. A nothing character. And sure that's fine for games, especially ones as light on story as Colors and Generations, but the thing about a film is that story and characters come first. Sonic being written like he currently is in the games would have made him bland and boring. Thunder Sonic being linked to Sonic's emotions is a really cool concept that we wouldn't have gotten if he stayed as lame as he is in the Pontac and Graff written games, and we could even see it start to effect his real personality like Steven Universe Future's Pink Steven, or DBZ's Super Saiyan forms. Also I'm still trying to figure out if Sonic's adorable race car bed being red is a Sonic Drift reference or just a coincidence.
I have been a sonic fan since i was a kid 30yrs old now, and i have to say, this is actually the first time in a long time ive actually been excited for the future of sonic.
Really glad you’re talking about the Sonic Movie! I’ve constantly been wondering what you’ve been thinking about it, and am always happy to hear from you, Josh!
I kinda respected the movie at the end for being so heavy handed with the product placement, it was clear it was, and it was played as a joke, got a chuckle out of me.
I imagine they wanted to set its own version of the sonic continuity that the audience could become familiar with. The film certainly makes sense in that context.
I think the reason sonic is so open is because he knows that since he's going to leave earth so he wants those he loves to know loves them so he shows them how much he loves them.
Man those SRB2 footage took me back 15 years. I remember the levels from back then, there were like 3 Worlds (Green Hills, Industrial plant and Eggman Castle). Green Hills and the plant didn't exactly look like that either. The memories!
my biggest problem with this version of Sonic is that I'm also a fan of the new DuckTales cartoon. And I spent the entire movie wondering why Dewey duck turned into a blue hedgehog.
I have Perspective #1 for the most part. I had trouble enjoying the film itself because the plot didn't really make much sense either despite being so simple. I'm much more interested in the possible sequel now that this movie is out of the way, but it's not one I'd watch again for fun.
As a fellow Sonic fan since 1991, I agree with pretty much everything you said. It could definitely have used more Sonic-cy moments, but at the same time, we grew up with AoStH, SatAM, Underground, the comics...so many different continuities and variations of the character and world, and we loved 'em all in their own ways. Just like with them, I loved the Sonic movie as a brand new version of the character and world, and I'm super excited to see what sort of things they have in store for the future of the movie franchise--because with the amount of money this movie is raking in, I bet a sequel will be confirmed pretty soon.
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The problem with the movie is just one - its not about Sonic we know, someone who looks like him, but not him.
I'm amazed that you were bold enough to pull away from your more familiar territory, especially as a huge fan of the geek critique, I really like this video.
I had the exact same feelings about the Sonic movie. Wish they stayed more true to (any of) the source material, but still had a smile on my face the entire time.
The best thing about this movie is that it proves everyone who said "Sonic doesn't work in 3D" completely wrong! :D (I meant to make this joke when the video was like a day old but never got around to it)
Yeah, I am only a passive Sonic fan, but I thought this movie did its job of building its characters, teasing up the mystical setting and most of all, getting people interested in it. The next film should be what hardcore fans are waiting for, but starting directly with THAT part would have alienated everyone else.
Me and my buddy watched both this and the sequel on opening night. Now, the sequel will be the better experience because of the kids in the audience. I'm an individual who's at worst indifferent over Shadow's character, but hearing the kids in the audience absolutely freaking LOSE IT over his reveal was probably one of the best theater-going experiences ive had alongside the final battle in Endgame.
As someone's who's been a fan of the franchise from the very beginning in 1991, I was surprised how much I liked the movie. I actually got excited seeing Idris Elba's tweet.
FINALLY!!! The first review I can absolutely get behind. I'm stunned by the number of people getting annoyed with me because I didn't like how unlike the source material this movie was. I have VERY mixed emotions about this movie. I definitely didn't like Jim Carey playing 90s Jim Carey instead of Robotnik though.
Jim Carrey fit the hero-villain parallels they had developed internally. I liked the dynamic they made, as Robotnik is what Sonic would have been if he didn't associate with Tom.
@@realar i don't see that parallel whatsoever. Jim Carey Robotnik is an egomaniac who doesn't want any relations. Sonic is a lonely sad sack who wants friends, even before he befriends Tom. There is no "sliding doors" mirroring going on here.
@@orinanime When I watched the film with my partner, both of us interpreted Robotnik as someone who badly wanted to have friends and connections but was too poorly socialized to get out of his own way. He doesn't feel very in-control of his emotional state, but he keeps Stone around despite that. Compare the way that Sonic *tries* to make friends with Tom at the start of the movie to the way we see Robotnik behave towards the end of the movie. They're similar in their awkward, endearing stumbles.
was so down to to see this review. glad you liked it. I kinda felt the same about the vulnerability scenes for sonic, but meh, I'm sure they'll figure it out
Yoooo I had the same thoughts about the movie! It felt great hearing kids in the theater reacting so positively, just like I loved sonic all those years ago...
I was lucky, we speak spanish and I went to see it sub rather than dubbed. That warranted me 2 things: almost no couples and certainly no little childrens... We were all in our 30's, we all knew the games and we all got the references. It was spectacular watch the movie like this
Your first perspective is pretty similar to my thoughts. Pretty good for what it is, but honestly doesn't have much to do with the source material. I personally like Detective Pikachu more as a video game adaptation (although that might be my massive Pokemon bias) but I still thought it was a really enjoyable movie.
This channel was A+ when you were discovering new things about old franchises that you've never explored.The episodic formula seems to bog down your time-production ratio. What could it hurt to actually play games again as opposed to re-inventing your childhood
Sonic himself was easily the best thing about the movie. As different as he is, I will say he feels more sincere than the way Sonic's been written in many recent games. The latter's combination of Roger Craig Smith's acting and the Pontac/Graff writing style make Sonic feel like a dude in his late thirties who never stopped being a fratboy. The kind of guy who buys hummers and dates girls half his age to get through a midlife crisis, who still says things like "That's how we roll!" and the series is self-aware to a point of self-deprecation, this constant feeling of.... embarrassment giving the impression that you can't enjoy Sonic unironically. Compared to that? This movie was SUCH a breath of fresh air. Sonic actually comes off like a fifteen year old kid this time. He's annoying, but in a more endearing way. He's the class clown who tries way too hard to get peoples' attention, and you just wanna see him become better adjusted and turn out okay. He feels authentic, and that sincerity has been missing from core Sonic media for a while. Hmmm.... I think I'm gonna work that into my script.
I don’t think the movie is supposed to be based on the games, honestly. You can tell they tried to separate it from the game’s universe just from the opening, because there’s no mention of Longclaw anywhere in the games, other than their design supposedly being based on the blocks from Labyrinth zone. Also, even if we’re not going by the games, the Sonic Bible tells a completely different story anyway.
I think the movie is just a matter of needing to have a safely different, but still recognizably true to the series first movie so it could get the budget to be more what the fan wants. And I think for what it is, it's just such a cute, fun movie that I couldn't understand people not being in love with, but I couldn't understand anyone hating.
I liked it a lot. I have a ton of ideas for sequels that will introduce Sonic's lore with good pace to viewers. Sonic 2 the movie: Takes place mostly in Sonic's world. Eggman makes Metal Sonic. Both Sonic and Tails meet Knuckles who becomes an ally near the end. Chaos emeralds debut but no Super Sonic. Sonic 3 the movie: Bring in Chaos. Too bad Perfect Chaos's destruction will never be seen in its full glory because Twitter dudes are crybabies. Super Sonic debut. Sonic 4 the movie: Sonic IN SPACE. BTW introduce Shadow as a Sonic clone made in the human world (*hides in a bunker*) and adapt some elements of SA2's plot.
I really enjoyed this movie even though I'm 30. I wasn't expecting a great story, but it was entertaining and pretty funny to me. I don't mind not having lore, it would have been cool to see more of the world he came from, though. The kids that were in the theater with me were born 15, 20... if not more years after the Genesis days. Damn lol.
Holy shit, Sonic Robo Blast 2 was my jam back in 2007 but when did it get such a huge overhaul? I might have to check this out again for old times sake.
I think it was important to separate Sonic from his world for the first movie. Keeping it simple is how you reach people. Most amazing movie series get good at the sequel. I think this first movie was exactly what it needed to be, and it would also make sense for sonic to be more confident in the sequel to this movie and less kiddish after his first adventure. Definitely interested to see where this goes.
My only major complaint was the lack of arranged Sonic music in the movie. That was a huge missed opportunity. It has a rather generic score with a few very brief nods to the Green Hill Zone theme. The music in the video games is too good to not have a chance to shine in the movie. That being said, it was a good, fun flick. I'm glad they didn't botch it.
I'm surprised more people aren't talking more about Jim Carrey playing Eggman. From the moment I heard/saw it, I thought that that was an unusual choice. I mean, he doesn't even look like Eggman. He's called Eggman since he's so rotund and round, yet he's being played by a thin guy. Also yet, he does make it work. It's also unusual to take this approach of Eggman/Robotnik being a super smart guy (which he is) who is also super arrogant and on a hair trigger to put down other people, which does play well into why he loves robots. I enjoy the adaptation though. It's funny. I've been, many times, the smart one surrounded by morons more times than I would like, so his scenes where he's putting people down and reminding them why he's the only one who can stand a chance against Sonic are great. His lines are delivered hilariously and they are weirdly relatable due to the aforementioned reasons, though I'm _pretty_ sure I'm not a villain. Speaking of him as a villain...to a certain degree, he's just doing his job. Yes, him not being concerned with "collateral damage" and being a jerk to some people are pretty evil traits, but he is doing the job he was assigned to do. That's another difference. Eggman is pretty evil to a degree. He wants to kill Sonic and take over the world a lot of the time. Has anyone else been thinking or talking about Eggman in the movie? Or is everyone focused on Sonic (for obvious reasons)?
The Sonic movie seemed like the writers had a bunch of really good ideas for scenes but couldn't figure out how to string them together to maintain a good pace for the movie. You had the cringeworthy bonding at the bar followed by Sonic's 'Quicksilver- esque' bar fight. You had the excellent car chase, followed by the tedious visit to the sister-in-laws house to bring in Tom's wife to the story for absolutely no reason other than to use smelling salts from her medkit. It was a movie that was great at its best and horrible at its worst creating a generally fun movie but not something I'd recommend to others. Hopefully though we'll see more polish and budget put into the sequel.
Ok but, did you see the Echidnas that were attacking Sonic before the move to Earth? Because those were definitely Echidnas (well, Sonic-style Echidnas). Does this mean Sonic will have PTSD from Longclaw's death when he eventually meets Knuckles?
Man, I envy your ability to enjoy Robo Blast 2. I've tried it several times, but the controls never felt right to me, and something about the camera made me literally sick after playing it (as in, got a headache WHILE PLAYING THE GAME). Sucks, because I appreciate the open-ended level design (even if I think it's a bit easy to get lost).
There was an interview on why they didn't go to Sonic's world as much and it came down to "A sequel would have the budget to do this if the movie's successful but the first movie won't have that budget"
HELL YEAH, THEY GOT THE MONEY NOWWWW!!
@@MaleTears EXACTLY
Spread the positive vibes for a great sequel. I feel like the people behind this project listen and try to appeal to a wide audience. I can see where they decided to play safe at times in this movie, but it still turned out enjoyable.
@@runningoncylinders3829 Considering how successful the movie is, it's safe to assume that there will be a sequel.
@@TheRandomEpicVideos The older design for Sonic belongs in the trash.
Heavy-handed product placement? Good sir, I'll have you know the endless breadsticks are NOT heavy; they are light and fluffy.
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This has been in entertainment since its dawn. Even in theater there was still product placement.
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They honestly should gone with Sonic instead of Olive Garden... obviously. My sister and I went straight to Sonic after seeing Sonic.
Regarding the issue with product placement, at least this movie didn't pull a Power Rangers 2017 and have Sonic lose his rings on the roof of an Olive Garden.
I love the tone
It feels like a mid 2000's product
It was serious but not edgy
It was goofy but the right amount
I was really surprised with the movie
Just like Sonic Adventure lol.
@@saricubra2867 that's why i loved it
Honestly, only thing I didn't like is when Sonic started Fortnite dancing. legit wanted to bash my head into the seat as soon as that happened.
@@RasenKamehamehaX100 could of been worse, least it wasn't a dab, and if it was released at an other time he would of done the Macarena or something
I got good news they said in a recent interview that the movie was supposed to have way more of sonics world in the movie but it was cut due to paramount they also said that paramount said if this movie warrants a sequel they will explore me
They will explore you? Or more?
@@movinghandstudios2874 more sorry
@@bestwitch4414 lol
Let’s explore you instead: Magic Schoolbus adventure.
@@runningoncylinders3829 wow, someone else who remembers the magic -mushrooms- schoolbus
The little girl saying “gotta go fast!” was adorable. The best parts of the movie are the opening and the last 3rd. I guess as long as you start and finish strong it’s a worthy watch.
GameExplain mentioned on their video this Sonic is still very much a kid, instead of a teenaged Sonic most games refer to. Even with it being a kind of AU where Sonic hadn't met Eggman yet, hadn't learned his favorite food was chili dogs yet, and EVEN hadn't really been shown to know Tails/Knuckles/Shadow/etc on screen, it still posits that this Sonic spent about a decade dimension hopping with no contact to real people, let alone a parental figure. His youth, combined with a lack of anyone to reign him in, means he can't have a filter on his thoughts, had no one to really teach him to control his impulses or powers, and definitely didn't have anyone to really tell him no, let alone stop him.
This is a Sonic that hinges his 11th hour in this movie on the fact he DID make a friend for once in his life since leaving Mobius (which makes me curious how this Sonic will interact with Tails)
This movie, when taken as an AU origin story while still remaining extremely respectful to the source material, can safely ignore the point of how game!Sonic approaches problem solving and emotions. This is a Sonic still growing up, and thus a Sonic that can deviate a small amount for cinematic purposes. In some senses, one could place this movie, based on the implied age of Sonic, before the first Sonic game. Whether or not it allows the rest of the games to occur depends on him returning home, or otherwise at least gaining the ability to do so. Perhaps in a sequel.
Marvel movie writing
A very faithful adaptation of the original Google Document.
>no gameplay
>still better than Heroes
>"Wait but Heroes does at least hav-"
>"I don't care."
Kevin Pepino why am I in the small group that really liked Heroes? My biggest gripe with the game is that all teams went through the same stages. I think they all should have had Egg Fleet and Final Fortress but they should have had unique adventures without the dumb encounters that resulted in button mashing and anti-climactic boss fights against another Team. I also didn't like the sudden switch to a lighthearted story after sa2’s events and tone.
@@speedguy8637 nah Iike heroes too. Not my favorite, especially given the repetition and TAILS'S VOICE but overall a solid mid tier speedy platformer.
Speed Guy heroes was good to me as well
I see this movie as a young/growing Sonic honestly. The Sonic you describe, the one we see in games, I don't think the film's Sonic is meant to be there. His more childish/vulnerable demeanor, is because of his circumstance, like you said, and because he's still young. I believe IF this becomes a franchise and gets sequels, his character arc will continue and he will become the hero we all grew up with.
This still didn't happen. Sonic in the movies is still pretty much a superhero ala from the MCU. Hence him lecturing Knuckles on being responsible with his ability rather than just tell him to what his heart says.
I guess you could say this movie really makes you *_feel_* like Sonic!
Josh, what if they add Tom Watchowski to Sonic Mania?
I want him to be a photorealistic Mortal Kombat-esque character, who can't actually finish a single level because he doesn't run fast enough to get up ramps. He can, however, throw donuts.
It's funny, but Tom Watchowski is useful and actually has an agency in the plot, unlike *cough Chris Thorndyke...
What if they added Tom Wachowski into the Sonic Adventure remaster as the cop who shoots Chaos in the beginning?
@@GameElement64 Honestly that would 100% justify an entire remaster of SA1.
"No crunch!" Oh, there was crunch in this movie
4:40 for me, my friends organized at least 20 of us to watch it all together. I think the poor parents that took their kids were confused when we all started cheering and clapping at the end of the movie. I think it was actually kind of good, and I can't wait for the squeal they hinted at.
Although, I'm not a fan that Sonic flosses twice. It ruined the ending.
For some reason I enjoyed it. Probably ironically. I kinda liked it at the end as a callback. Totally get how it’s dumb though.
I never knew dental hygeine was so important to Sonic.
Knuckles is *red*
Sonic is *blue*
I liked this *movie* and so will *you*
Words of an intellectual
SRB2 footage and music
Respect+
jdub2003.Real respect.
I think Schwartz’s sonic clicked with me. He isn’t perfectly confident like game Sonic but he really wants to be that. I think for a what can best be put as a young sonic he does the part well. I think this being the character who becomes more of a grownup way past cool speedy boy makes a lot of sense. (Even if sometimes he sounded a bit too much like another VA role I know him for)
Also yeah I think a sequel could make a lot more of this work and I think they know the demand is for more of the sonic characters in world. Putting Sonic back in what I assume is Mobius? And having him feel like a stranger in his home land could be a very good set up especially for a kids film.
The worry is how much does a cast of all CGi characters (with a Carry and a Marsden yes) in an all CGi world like that cost a studio. Probably a lot. So it would probably still be half on Earth which I would happily accept. Earth is this Sonic’s home and it would be a mistake to try and erase the arc he had in this movie by trying to shove him back into living on Mobius just to be more game accurate.
All that said the fact that I a long lapsed sonic fan who more so enjoys watching the games and fandom from afar now a days really wants a sequel to this movie and is theorizing about it is telling in and of itself tbh.
"Mobius"
Technically, *Mobius is also a twisted version of the Earth* and the name itself doesn't exist if you take the *games* , not material outside of the games. Using some real world settings really isn't out of place.
I think that they should change many designs if they want to be more faithful to the games.
The original movie design shows why the super realistic setting can bring an uncanny effect (like Sonic 06 did lol).
Fun fact, there was a two-episode Sonic animated movie from 1996 only released in Japan, there are also similarities with the Earth.
I think that this movie is technically the best videogame adaptation ever made for now (but this doesn't mean that the movie itself is a masterpiece), it's also ahead of detective Pikachu in the box office.
Star masterc bigger opening doesn’t mean bigger overall. It’s yet to be seen how long lasting the sonic movie is. Good chance it does beat pikachu but who knows.
Also I know Mobius isn’t always the name but it’s easier to say Mobius then say “the planet in which sonic lives” ya know?
@@audoodle9963 I know that Mobius is easier to say but Sonic Team still doesn't fix this misunderstanding to this day through the games.
Also, the movie is also better than Rise of Skywalker if you take rotten tomatoes critics and audience score but i think that movie is a low bar lmao.
Yep, every time he talked I heard Dewy from ducktales lol, but still loved his take on sonic lol
Tyler Wilson I heard Rutabaga Rabbitowitz his character from Bojack Horseman. Prob doesn’t help I rewatched the entire series last month.
Glad to hear your thoughts. I've been waiting to see what you had to say.
As a Sonic fan since 93, I literally grew up with him and I've loved him for my whole life. Through all the good and bad times.
I had a blast with this movie. The Sega logo made me tear up, then hearing Hyper Potions got me, the end credits scene I just started crying. My girlfriend asked me what was wrong and I was just like. I feel like a kid. Sonic is one of my first memories and seeing him like this was just so much to handle. The movies not perfect, but I loved it anyways. You grow up and man sometimes life just really kicks the shit out of you. Then something comes along and just makes you remember what it was like being a kid, not worrying about things, and having a good time. This movie did that for me. I hope we get a sequel. The movie deserves one.
1000% agree man. I thought this would be a bad film, but I'm so glad it's not, and Sonic is in a positive light again right now. I wish for Sega to take full advantage of this.
I agree that the overall story was pretty generic... however, I do feel that they got the unavoidable love interest right at the very least. They didn't develop a relationship that felt forced throughout the movie, nor did it "fix" a problematic relationship/divorce like in most Hollywood cashgrabs. Nope, she was there, their relationship was pre-established and heartwarming, she contributed to the plot and she even had a few funny lines and moments herself. I may be exagerating about something that's overall such a tiny part of the movie, but I appreciate the fact that a love interest wasn't a source of tacked-on cringe for once. Take notes, movie directors! An action movie can feature an healthy relationship and still be considered good!
im glad im not the only one who appreciated this aspect of the movie. plus the scenes with the sister were pretty funny, almost seems like an inside slap in the face to movies that do have the generic troubled relationship stories tacked on, having the judging sister , which in typical movies would be an aspect of the troubled relationship cliche, was treated as a joke and generally unimportant
After watching the movie, my absolute favorite part in the show was the Tails cameo. For me, that set up SO MANY THINGS! For starters, the insane inventions that Tails creates for Sonic to use. Second, a way for Sonic to reconnect with Mobius and POTENTIALLY THE CHAOS EMERALDS, more interaction with the echidna tribe we saw at the beginning of the movie, and maybe an introduction to knuckles. But most importantly, it set up a more serious tone, something not seen in Sonic in probably over 10 years. I like light-hearted fun as much as the next guy, but when all Sonic's about anymore is jokes and giggles, it gets a bit old.
Also, I took his emotional vulnerability with a grain of salt. Mostly because he's so young in this, the youngest adaption animation of Sonic to talk most likely. Also, they covered it, they got past it, and even though it was hard for me to accept at first, when I started thinking about it, that really just fit Sonic's character. He's always surrounded himself by friends, and the reason he fights is to protect his friends. I guess without them, he really doesn't have a need to fight, just run away. I mean straight from Sonic 1, he was just saving little animals... So who knows, maybe he developed his love for fighting later in the series of video games, and I guess I can look past that.
Thats the exact thing i had been thinking when i just watched this movie.
something i dont see a lot of comments about is that this is an origin story and it sets up the events of how dr robotnik actually got to mobius in the first place.
Some people might complain or say it makes no sense that sonic is in the human world, or be upset that there isnt much of sonics homeworld and classic story, but without this direction having eggman in Mobius would be pushed down to a minor, and less interesting, flashback sequence.
I honestly believe they are setting the stage for a trilogy.
movie one, starts in mobius, then is set on earth. Robotnik is sent to some mushroom land, with few supplies, perhaps where he gains the need to use creatures as power sources.
movie 2 will be set in mobius, as obviously tails has a need to find sonic, likely some danger at home. chaos emeralds will be introduced, and knuckles makes an appearance, maybe chaos is the big bad (ties in the echidna tribe from movie 1) at the end of the movie eggman has ended up in mobius and gets his hands on a chaos emerald and begins building his base and robot armies.
movie 3 will be set in both worlds, eggman builds a machine that somehow merges the two worlds, theatening both, and that quill he has at the end of the movie, not his way to get back to earth, but using the quill and the power of the chaos emerald(s) he has he manages to clone sonic as a way to take sonic down. this clone is shadow.
or scenario 2 (more likely) uses the quill to make metal sonic
No Canon Sonic fights largely for his amusement and his own will (protecting the pretty flowers). His own bio in the JP Bible says he's both fine hanging with friends and meeting ladies but is also fine being alone (see also all the moments in games where Sonic either just catches up with his friends or just runs off when the trouble is over).
Yay! A new review! Didn’t expect this!
What were your thoughts on Ben Schwartz?
His voice is similar to Ryan Drummond in my opinion.
Loved Jim Carrey as Eggman and Ben Schwartz as the voice of Sonic, I hope they reprise their roles in the sequels. I also loved Sonic's adorable and charming animation. I appreciate that the story at least wasn't terrible, it was a simple and wholesome buddy-cop-esque movie... But the story will still be forgotten. So, all I hope is that for future movies the plot is less bland cookie-cutout - and more original, more meaningful, and truer to source material.
Agree with everything, except Sonic should have his game VA.
Woooffff...do not agree at all about Eggman. My friend and I found Jim Carrey’s performance in this movie to be absolutely grating and annoying. Not to be a downer, but every moment he was on-screen was my least favorite moment in the movie lol. Granted, the writing and the script steer the performance, so that’s probably more at fault than Carrey himself.
His scene with the military officer could’ve been cut entirely and probably the role of the government on the whole. Would’ve been much better to just have him as a villainous rogue agent acting on his own accord without government-backing.
Sonic, he can really move!
Sonic, he's got an attitude!
Sonic, he's the fastest thing alive!
He's the fastest thing alive!!!
He's the fastest thing alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want that series to be revived as well.
I actually thought this movie was pretty good, I'm so glad they listen to the criticisms of Sonic's initial design and fixed it.
Not a fan of live-action.
Still click on every TGC video regardless of what it's about. :V
Josh, I really hope you do another one of these for part 2. I seriously enjoyed it and I would think you did too. More than the first. It lived up to the hype and we're getting another one in the future!
Perspective #2 is spot-on how I felt too! It was just a good time, and that's all it really needs to be. I'm glad it's doing great at the box office and with audiences.
Also, does anyone else hope Schwartz replaces RCA in the games? I feel like he's the perfect mix of every Sonic VA so far
I think the Sonic movie was trying to play it safe just to see what kind of potential it has. Now that the movie is on its way to becoming the highest grossing video game movie of all time, I think the sequel will be able to take more chances and explore the world of Sonic a lot more.
"No gameplay at all, 0/10, F--.
Still better than Heroes." - Words of the wise.
Sonic was a solid 8/10, hopefully the second one builds more on sonic lore
The scene where the crazy guy holds up the crayon drawing of sanic is my favorite scene of any movie ever.
It was very diluted with non-Sonic things. I enjoyed it mostly, but for those who care:
They make Sonic an alien when the first games are set on real world islands around New Zealand. There's lots of dispute and contradictions of what's ''canon'' for Sonic locations, but the whole ''if it's not America it might as well be an alien planet'' message is implicitly there, even if unintentional.
He's very clingy and stalkerish. Not the free spirited curious adventurer I know. The cop should contrast him, not be more ambitious than him before he's even met the devil. Sonic is more Amy than Sonic here. Were the writers colourblind? Hmm benefit of the doubt on this one but they better figure it out by the sequel.
The American Paddington.
Thanks for letting me know about Robo Blast 2!
The video opened and ended with a Sonic ad
Love your videos man! Cannot wait until the next season whenever it comes out. I can FEEL your fandom through your videos and I love it.
Sonic had so much automated events and spectacle shots nowadays, that they made a film.
Wheres the faen depths is my crunchy gameplay in this movie theater?
I think your point at his anxiety is more to do with how young he is in this universe. He is just starting to realize that he can be more of a hero. I think we will see more of his game personality in a sequel.
The fact that this movie exists is part of the reason he is my favorite video game character. He is so much more than just his games (thankfully since they vary in quality). He feels as much of an icon as he did growing up.
Man, the level design of that Sonic game playing in the background is amazing. If only Sega understood their own franchise.
The movie based on video game franchise primarily targeted towards kids is best viewed through a persons inner child...what a revelation!
I did enjoy the movie. The humor was great, and the plot was... decent enough. Jim Carey was amazing. My only main problem was, just as you said, Sonic didn't feel like Sonic. He felt too insecure, too emotional. The character who once said "If you have time to worry, then just run" seems... well, he's still flippant and carefree, WHEN he's flippant and carefree. But he isn't like that all the time, half the time he seems more depressed and reserved and nervous, which was definitely NEVER a trait Sonic has held.
Besides from Sonic himself, the rest of the movie was amazing. Especially the references. My absolute FAVORITE one was in the beginning, that the reason that Sonic was forced from his home, because of the power he had, was because of the freaking Echidna Tribe, a tribe KNOWN for power abuse as we would see in Sonic Adventure when they tried to snatch the power of the Emeralds, ultimately leading to their destruction. God that brought such a smile to my face.
I don't wanna be that guy, but I really don't get your critique of Sonic as being "emotionally vulnerable." Since Colors, excluding his fantastic characterization in IDW, Sonic has been written with all the personality of Mickey Mouse. A nothing character. And sure that's fine for games, especially ones as light on story as Colors and Generations, but the thing about a film is that story and characters come first. Sonic being written like he currently is in the games would have made him bland and boring. Thunder Sonic being linked to Sonic's emotions is a really cool concept that we wouldn't have gotten if he stayed as lame as he is in the Pontac and Graff written games, and we could even see it start to effect his real personality like Steven Universe Future's Pink Steven, or DBZ's Super Saiyan forms.
Also I'm still trying to figure out if Sonic's adorable race car bed being red is a Sonic Drift reference or just a coincidence.
I have been a sonic fan since i was a kid 30yrs old now, and i have to say, this is actually the first time in a long time ive actually been excited for the future of sonic.
AHHH YEAH THIS IS HAPPENING
Really glad you’re talking about the Sonic Movie!
I’ve constantly been wondering what you’ve been thinking about it, and am always happy to hear from you, Josh!
Great review, and HOLY COW, THAT'S SRB2?!? Man, that game has changed a lot in the years since I last played it!
I kinda respected the movie at the end for being so heavy handed with the product placement, it was clear it was, and it was played as a joke, got a chuckle out of me.
5:00 "Best video game adaptation I've ever seen." Um...Detective Pikachu?
SRB2 is so rad! I wish it had way more coverage here on TH-cam just so more people can know how fun it is.
I imagine they wanted to set its own version of the sonic continuity that the audience could become familiar with. The film certainly makes sense in that context.
I think the reason sonic is so open is because he knows that since he's going to leave earth so he wants those he loves to know loves them so he shows them how much he loves them.
I will add this movie to my "movies I want to see but can never get round to it" list. Seriously I still haven't seen detective Pikachu...
Man those SRB2 footage took me back 15 years. I remember the levels from back then, there were like 3 Worlds (Green Hills, Industrial plant and Eggman Castle). Green Hills and the plant didn't exactly look like that either. The memories!
my biggest problem with this version of Sonic is that I'm also a fan of the new DuckTales cartoon. And I spent the entire movie wondering why Dewey duck turned into a blue hedgehog.
I have Perspective #1 for the most part. I had trouble enjoying the film itself because the plot didn't really make much sense either despite being so simple. I'm much more interested in the possible sequel now that this movie is out of the way, but it's not one I'd watch again for fun.
As a fellow Sonic fan since 1991, I agree with pretty much everything you said. It could definitely have used more Sonic-cy moments, but at the same time, we grew up with AoStH, SatAM, Underground, the comics...so many different continuities and variations of the character and world, and we loved 'em all in their own ways. Just like with them, I loved the Sonic movie as a brand new version of the character and world, and I'm super excited to see what sort of things they have in store for the future of the movie franchise--because with the amount of money this movie is raking in, I bet a sequel will be confirmed pretty soon.
The problem with the movie is just one - its not about Sonic we know, someone who looks like him, but not him.
I'm amazed that you were bold enough to pull away from your more familiar territory, especially as a huge fan of the geek critique, I really like this video.
I had the exact same feelings about the Sonic movie. Wish they stayed more true to (any of) the source material, but still had a smile on my face the entire time.
This is just preparing for sonic the hedgehog 2, and I think we will see more of sonic's world.
The best thing about this movie is that it proves everyone who said "Sonic doesn't work in 3D" completely wrong! :D (I meant to make this joke when the video was like a day old but never got around to it)
Yeah, I am only a passive Sonic fan, but I thought this movie did its job of building its characters, teasing up the mystical setting and most of all, getting people interested in it. The next film should be what hardcore fans are waiting for, but starting directly with THAT part would have alienated everyone else.
Me and my buddy watched both this and the sequel on opening night. Now, the sequel will be the better experience because of the kids in the audience. I'm an individual who's at worst indifferent over Shadow's character, but hearing the kids in the audience absolutely freaking LOSE IT over his reveal was probably one of the best theater-going experiences ive had alongside the final battle in Endgame.
@0:51-.-Bravo comrade! You have mastered doublethink.
As someone's who's been a fan of the franchise from the very beginning in 1991, I was surprised how much I liked the movie. I actually got excited seeing Idris Elba's tweet.
I need Sonic Robo Blast 2 in my life.
I just want to know what the original 'horror monster' version of Tails would have looked like.
FINALLY!!! The first review I can absolutely get behind.
I'm stunned by the number of people getting annoyed with me because I didn't like how unlike the source material this movie was.
I have VERY mixed emotions about this movie.
I definitely didn't like Jim Carey playing 90s Jim Carey instead of Robotnik though.
Jim Carrey fit the hero-villain parallels they had developed internally. I liked the dynamic they made, as Robotnik is what Sonic would have been if he didn't associate with Tom.
@@realar i don't see that parallel whatsoever. Jim Carey Robotnik is an egomaniac who doesn't want any relations. Sonic is a lonely sad sack who wants friends, even before he befriends Tom.
There is no "sliding doors" mirroring going on here.
@@orinanime When I watched the film with my partner, both of us interpreted Robotnik as someone who badly wanted to have friends and connections but was too poorly socialized to get out of his own way. He doesn't feel very in-control of his emotional state, but he keeps Stone around despite that.
Compare the way that Sonic *tries* to make friends with Tom at the start of the movie to the way we see Robotnik behave towards the end of the movie. They're similar in their awkward, endearing stumbles.
@@147CT You get it.
@@147CT i suppose that works.
I think it's a stretch. But a tenuous connection is better than none in this situation I suppose.
was so down to to see this review. glad you liked it. I kinda felt the same about the vulnerability scenes for sonic, but meh, I'm sure they'll figure it out
I actually went to Olive Garden after I watched the movie and had the never ending pasta bowl. IT NEVER ENDS.
Just stoped by after seeing game apologist. Glad I did.
Next is the Metroid Manga review and the Donkey Kong Country tv show review
And as a Patreon stretch goal, a Paper Mario Free Demo review
My main take away from this video: I need to play Sonic Robo Blast ASAP.
Yoooo I had the same thoughts about the movie! It felt great hearing kids in the theater reacting so positively, just like I loved sonic all those years ago...
It’s nice to see so many people who were pleased with this movie.
I got an ad for the Sonic movie after finishing this video.
I was lucky, we speak spanish and I went to see it sub rather than dubbed. That warranted me 2 things: almost no couples and certainly no little childrens... We were all in our 30's, we all knew the games and we all got the references. It was spectacular watch the movie like this
Thank you geek critique now I have a craving for a sonic game based of the movie with the same gameplay as sonic robo blast 2
Your first perspective is pretty similar to my thoughts. Pretty good for what it is, but honestly doesn't have much to do with the source material. I personally like Detective Pikachu more as a video game adaptation (although that might be my massive Pokemon bias) but I still thought it was a really enjoyable movie.
This channel was A+ when you were discovering new things about old franchises that you've never explored.The episodic formula seems to bog down your time-production ratio. What could it hurt to actually play games again as opposed to re-inventing your childhood
Okay, okay, I get it, you only liked the Metroid series. ;)
Not only does Sonic love going fast, he also likes going to Olive Garden. Have you tried the new endless pasta bowl??
I approve the use of Sonic Robo Blast 2 gameplay and music
Will you ever make a whole video about it?
Robotnik said he'll be back before christmas, so...
Sonic himself was easily the best thing about the movie. As different as he is, I will say he feels more sincere than the way Sonic's been written in many recent games. The latter's combination of Roger Craig Smith's acting and the Pontac/Graff writing style make Sonic feel like a dude in his late thirties who never stopped being a fratboy. The kind of guy who buys hummers and dates girls half his age to get through a midlife crisis, who still says things like "That's how we roll!" and the series is self-aware to a point of self-deprecation, this constant feeling of.... embarrassment giving the impression that you can't enjoy Sonic unironically. Compared to that? This movie was SUCH a breath of fresh air. Sonic actually comes off like a fifteen year old kid this time. He's annoying, but in a more endearing way. He's the class clown who tries way too hard to get peoples' attention, and you just wanna see him become better adjusted and turn out okay. He feels authentic, and that sincerity has been missing from core Sonic media for a while.
Hmmm.... I think I'm gonna work that into my script.
I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the new trailer!!
Imagine not pressing buttons to make the main character do things.
I don’t think the movie is supposed to be based on the games, honestly. You can tell they tried to separate it from the game’s universe just from the opening, because there’s no mention of Longclaw anywhere in the games, other than their design supposedly being based on the blocks from Labyrinth zone. Also, even if we’re not going by the games, the Sonic Bible tells a completely different story anyway.
I think the movie is just a matter of needing to have a safely different, but still recognizably true to the series first movie so it could get the budget to be more what the fan wants. And I think for what it is, it's just such a cute, fun movie that I couldn't understand people not being in love with, but I couldn't understand anyone hating.
I liked it a lot. I have a ton of ideas for sequels that will introduce Sonic's lore with good pace to viewers.
Sonic 2 the movie: Takes place mostly in Sonic's world. Eggman makes Metal Sonic. Both Sonic and Tails meet Knuckles who becomes an ally near the end. Chaos emeralds debut but no Super Sonic.
Sonic 3 the movie: Bring in Chaos. Too bad Perfect Chaos's destruction will never be seen in its full glory because Twitter dudes are crybabies. Super Sonic debut.
Sonic 4 the movie: Sonic IN SPACE. BTW introduce Shadow as a Sonic clone made in the human world (*hides in a bunker*) and adapt some elements of SA2's plot.
I really enjoyed this movie even though I'm 30. I wasn't expecting a great story, but it was entertaining and pretty funny to me. I don't mind not having lore, it would have been cool to see more of the world he came from, though. The kids that were in the theater with me were born 15, 20... if not more years after the Genesis days. Damn lol.
Holy shit, Sonic Robo Blast 2 was my jam back in 2007 but when did it get such a huge overhaul? I might have to check this out again for old times sake.
I think it was important to separate Sonic from his world for the first movie. Keeping it simple is how you reach people. Most amazing movie series get good at the sequel. I think this first movie was exactly what it needed to be, and it would also make sense for sonic to be more confident in the sequel to this movie and less kiddish after his first adventure.
Definitely interested to see where this goes.
Sonic 2 supposedly coming 2022, so hopefully we get more of what we saw at the beginning
My only major complaint was the lack of arranged Sonic music in the movie. That was a huge missed opportunity. It has a rather generic score with a few very brief nods to the Green Hill Zone theme. The music in the video games is too good to not have a chance to shine in the movie.
That being said, it was a good, fun flick. I'm glad they didn't botch it.
I'm surprised more people aren't talking more about Jim Carrey playing Eggman. From the moment I heard/saw it, I thought that that was an unusual choice. I mean, he doesn't even look like Eggman. He's called Eggman since he's so rotund and round, yet he's being played by a thin guy. Also yet, he does make it work. It's also unusual to take this approach of Eggman/Robotnik being a super smart guy (which he is) who is also super arrogant and on a hair trigger to put down other people, which does play well into why he loves robots. I enjoy the adaptation though. It's funny. I've been, many times, the smart one surrounded by morons more times than I would like, so his scenes where he's putting people down and reminding them why he's the only one who can stand a chance against Sonic are great. His lines are delivered hilariously and they are weirdly relatable due to the aforementioned reasons, though I'm _pretty_ sure I'm not a villain. Speaking of him as a villain...to a certain degree, he's just doing his job. Yes, him not being concerned with "collateral damage" and being a jerk to some people are pretty evil traits, but he is doing the job he was assigned to do. That's another difference. Eggman is pretty evil to a degree. He wants to kill Sonic and take over the world a lot of the time. Has anyone else been thinking or talking about Eggman in the movie? Or is everyone focused on Sonic (for obvious reasons)?
The Sonic movie seemed like the writers had a bunch of really good ideas for scenes but couldn't figure out how to string them together to maintain a good pace for the movie. You had the cringeworthy bonding at the bar followed by Sonic's 'Quicksilver- esque' bar fight. You had the excellent car chase, followed by the tedious visit to the sister-in-laws house to bring in Tom's wife to the story for absolutely no reason other than to use smelling salts from her medkit. It was a movie that was great at its best and horrible at its worst creating a generally fun movie but not something I'd recommend to others. Hopefully though we'll see more polish and budget put into the sequel.
other than to use smelling salts.......other than smelling salts.
the godamn shoes man!!!
Ok but, did you see the Echidnas that were attacking Sonic before the move to Earth? Because those were definitely Echidnas (well, Sonic-style Echidnas). Does this mean Sonic will have PTSD from Longclaw's death when he eventually meets Knuckles?
I'd love to hear you talk about SRB2 at some point.
Man, I envy your ability to enjoy Robo Blast 2. I've tried it several times, but the controls never felt right to me, and something about the camera made me literally sick after playing it (as in, got a headache WHILE PLAYING THE GAME). Sucks, because I appreciate the open-ended level design (even if I think it's a bit easy to get lost).
SRB2 ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Cant wait for the Samus Returns video