In this video I not only wanted to fo a partial takedown of the new zero blade play MicrotechbYktrstech but I also wanted to compare it to a non ZBT new gen Combat Troodon.
I picked up a ZBT and when I first got it thought it was perfect but had not really fired it many times. I got it, checked for blade play, and put it back in its box. After watching some of your first vids on it I took it back out and fired it a few more times, everything seemed fine. Then, however, I took it out again and tried firing it a coupe times in a row while holding it straight up and down. On the second firing in a row it would fail, over and over. If I fired it at any kind of angle other than straight up and down it fired reliably. I wiped it down, blew it out, and added some Remington lube(the lube MC says they use at the factory) and tried firing straight up and down again. It worked more reliably. It hasn't failed since but I have not fired it that many times, maybe a couple dozen. I am not too worried at this point but just thought I would share my experience.
Im old enough to remember when we would buy a car and do what we could to tune it up. I get that kind of feeling when we have to tune up our knives.Im kind of a perfectionalist so I can see myself tuning that knife for hours much like I spend more time tuning my guitar rather than playing lol.
Good stuff. Thanks for doing this, I was thinking I wanted a zbt troodon but I hadn't considered that the tolerances (and therefore reliability, probably) would be any different but you make a good point there. Hmm
Interesting video. I personally don't want something so finicky that I got to take it apart and dial it in. I would worry about the reliability if I really needed it. I think I'd rather have a little bit of blade play without all the other hassles personally.
@@dariocarafa3788Good to hear. I always figured they’d be less reliable but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense with how MT did it. IE they didn’t just make the chassis tracks tight against the blade tang.
So far knock on wood, I haven't had any issues with my ZBT, locks up tight and no misfires so far! 👍🤠 You might want to slap a smidge white lithium grease on those springs, they looked bare.
I have a question: why remove the blade from the track? I followed a video from another channel to take apart the Kershaw Livewire, and they didn’t remove the blade from the track. I followed the tutorial and had no issues.
I wish the ZBT Ultratech had a smoother action. The gen 3 combat troodon has a much smoother actuation and I really don’t understand why the Ultratech doesn’t have that.
Because in Troodon all parts move freely, and in Ultratech ZBT there is too much unnecessary friction. I don't like the fact that the ZBT blade needs an additional impulse to lock. This is a potential source of problems. I hope that Microtech will improve the technology in the future.
There may be other zbt breakdown uploads however, fans prefer the Edged Mindset approach. I enjoy learning about production zbt. Fortunately I’m content with the acceptable play exhibited by the platforms I use so money saved. Similar to modern electronic and automotive tech, benefits aren’t worth the upgrade for some folks. Also Ultratech is too dainty. Deadlocks blade to (gothic styled) handle ratio simply fails to capture me regardless of their precise construction💸👀😴
@@Boosted68firebird that's fair. I personally don't care for the looks of the recon, but I bet the blade geometry is more robust. I have the Hogue Counterstrike, and just got the Ultratech ZBT, and prefer pretty much everything about the Microtech
@@griff7749 Ultratech definitely exhibits spicer design esthetics compared to the Recon. Similar to Edged Mindset, I ultimately prefer larger pieces above all. Custom Scarab2s and Cleric2s are the flagships of my collection.
Brilliant vid as always. Best Microtech content. Addicted to your stuff. Keep it up!
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Awesome comparison video definitely like your perspective on them
Pretty sweet. I have honestly had zero issue with blade play on my otf's. Doesnt bother me and they still work fine. Still cool to see new engineering
Great comparison of the inner workings of each!
Appreciate that!
beautiful knives,i love that table mat
Thank you
I picked up a ZBT and when I first got it thought it was perfect but had not really fired it many times. I got it, checked for blade play, and put it back in its box. After watching some of your first vids on it I took it back out and fired it a few more times, everything seemed fine. Then, however, I took it out again and tried firing it a coupe times in a row while holding it straight up and down. On the second firing in a row it would fail, over and over. If I fired it at any kind of angle other than straight up and down it fired reliably. I wiped it down, blew it out, and added some Remington lube(the lube MC says they use at the factory) and tried firing straight up and down again. It worked more reliably. It hasn't failed since but I have not fired it that many times, maybe a couple dozen. I am not too worried at this point but just thought I would share my experience.
Thank you for sharing. Many of these seem to neednsome kind of break in out the box
Im old enough to remember when we would buy a car and do what we could to tune it up. I get that kind of feeling when we have to tune up our knives.Im kind of a perfectionalist so I can see myself tuning that knife for hours much like I spend more time tuning my guitar rather than playing lol.
Good stuff. Thanks for doing this, I was thinking I wanted a zbt troodon but I hadn't considered that the tolerances (and therefore reliability, probably) would be any different but you make a good point there. Hmm
Interesting video. I personally don't want something so finicky that I got to take it apart and dial it in. I would worry about the reliability if I really needed it. I think I'd rather have a little bit of blade play without all the other hassles personally.
Cool concept, but I still feel like I’d rather have a little play for the increased reliability. Cool option though. Thanks for this!
I have 2 and super reliable
@@dariocarafa3788Good to hear. I always figured they’d be less reliable but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense with how MT did it. IE they didn’t just make the chassis tracks tight against the blade tang.
So far knock on wood, I haven't had any issues with my ZBT, locks up tight and no misfires so far! 👍🤠 You might want to slap a smidge white lithium grease on those springs, they looked bare.
I have a question: why remove the blade from the track? I followed a video from another channel to take apart the Kershaw Livewire, and they didn’t remove the blade from the track. I followed the tutorial and had no issues.
It can make the spring carnage pop out. For dsigns where th main springs aren't securely attached to the carriage they can shoot out
@@edged_mindset thank you!
Funny I just got a CT in APNC Tanto too.... Although I went for the plain edge, not the defective all jiggly edge! 🤠👍 🤣
The full serations mean one thing and that’s cutting
@@matthewswan9419 Yea, I have to give Carter a hard time over it. I have a few with the defective blades like that, but not many! 😁
I wish the ZBT Ultratech had a smoother action. The gen 3 combat troodon has a much smoother actuation and I really don’t understand why the Ultratech doesn’t have that.
Because in Troodon all parts move freely, and in Ultratech ZBT there is too much unnecessary friction. I don't like the fact that the ZBT blade needs an additional impulse to lock. This is a potential source of problems. I hope that Microtech will improve the technology in the future.
The sog didn't even count because it was unusable. I'm glad Microtech is trying it though!
It was the SOG Pentagon
There we go. That's it
There may be other zbt breakdown uploads however, fans prefer the Edged Mindset approach. I enjoy learning about production zbt. Fortunately I’m content with the acceptable play exhibited by the platforms I use so money saved. Similar to modern electronic and automotive tech, benefits aren’t worth the upgrade for some folks. Also Ultratech is too dainty. Deadlocks blade to (gothic styled) handle ratio simply fails to capture me regardless of their precise construction💸👀😴
Thank you for watching!
Ultratech too dainty? How so, and what is less dainty?
@@griff7749 My Ultratechs were replaced with a Recon 35 d/e. Substantially more robust than an Ultratech. Base of that Gen3 Tech blade is narrow af.
@@Boosted68firebird that's fair. I personally don't care for the looks of the recon, but I bet the blade geometry is more robust. I have the Hogue Counterstrike, and just got the Ultratech ZBT, and prefer pretty much everything about the Microtech
@@griff7749 Ultratech definitely exhibits spicer design esthetics compared to the Recon. Similar to Edged Mindset, I ultimately prefer larger pieces above all. Custom Scarab2s and Cleric2s are the flagships of my collection.
Sog pentagon
Bingo
Microtech are garbage. Get a benchmade.
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