Pirates are gay and the best one was a woman // Historical Profiles [CC]
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''she grew up with a fierce temper and had already started stabbing people by 13.'' jessica said with a smile.
Kind of reminded my of Arya from Game of Thrones :D
@Elise Schureck english is not my first language but thanks errr
She makes anything sound cute
I absolutely love this series! Aside from all the gayness, I really do love learning about time periods and aspects of history that western schooling overlooks. Thank you for shedding light on these icons!
I’m so glad this isn’t a one off video from Jessica, loved it!
this actually reminds me of a book i read! it’s called ‘a clash of steel” by C.B. Lee ! it has sapphic pirates in it and takes place in/around china! i definitely recommend it :]
God this is the most interesting thing I’ve learned about history in forever! Thank you Jessica!!!
This video is an absolute treasure
That buccaneer picture is used by someone on Ancestry for Robert S. Stiles (Born 30 JUL 1637 • England
(possibly Yorkshire) - Died 30 JUL 1690), who was 4th great-grandfather to my paternal grandfather's mother's adoptive mother.
You. Are. A. MASTER! Orator. Respect.
The Red Flag Fleet Flourished.
Who else found this video after OFMD came out? Talk about gay pirates!
Matelotage Is a fascinating subject that history has tried to “straight-wash”.
They really tried to still "Matey" from us
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@@melz6625 There's not much evidence for what was claimed in the video really. But there is significant evidence that, even if matelotage was a form of gay marriage (debatable, but not inconceivable) it was quite rare, and homosexuality was still greatly taboo among the majority of buccaneers, best example to support this being the buccaneer captain Edmund Cooke who was voted to be put under arrest under a (most likely false) accusation of sodomy, strongly implying homosexuality was as frowned upon by buccaneers as it was among the general populace of the time (which is very much so). Source: Bucaniers of America. The second volume.
There's also the fact buccaneers were extremely devout protestants, many being religious exiles fleeing persecution during the European wars of religion, and likely would have frowned upon homosexuality due to their fervent religiosity.
I stand corrected. I thought "straight agenda" was the dumbest thing I've read today, but " straight-washed" wins it. The majority of pirates were heterosexual males.
As soon as I saw female pirate, I immediately heard a voice in my head go "ANNE BONNY"
I thought Gràinne Mhaol 😅
@@Orlaith151 Hahaha getting old school 😉
@@VBirchwood nah just that Irish sense of pride 😂😂
@@Orlaith151 I don't blame you. I'm surprised though you didn't think Anne Bonny too, considering she's Irish 😊
@@VBirchwood I think Anne Bonny was amazing too but my love for Gràinne Mhaol can't be diminished since I read she blew into a handkerchief in front of queen Elizabeth just to be salty 😂
There were so many plot twists during this video it was better than Netflix geez
The Lost Pirate Republic was actually pretty good, but I was definitely sad that it underplayed the gayness of piracy. Leave it to Kellgren-Fozard to pick up the slack.
@@OkieDaemon Also the Netflix show only focused in the last episode on Anne Bonny. It was interesting for sure but I was watching the show because of all the female pirates I had heard about. And then they we're barely featured 🙄
Hearing that some history teachers play Jessica’s videos in their classes: God I wish that were me
Not history, but I teach anthropology. Definitely use her videos all the time!
@@isray89 Even more impressive.
My professor showed a few of her videos, the class loved her snarkiness and info
Same here.
I play her videos at LGBT+ club meetings at my college
That title alone deserves some kind of award
It's already iconic.
definitely
Reads like a 3rd grade report title... "exactly what is it"
exactly. she got me with the title
I hope that Jessica is aware of this because it would make her so happy ! ❤😷
My youthful obsession with pirates is finally validated.
You and me both sis
Add me to that list!
Add me to the list too!
same
Me too, although my obsession is still ongoing
oh god. "pirates" and "gay" in the same title and my mind is like: hmmm, i haven't watched Black Sails in far too long...
Lmao sameee
What an epic fkn show tho
Is it any good?
I was like "oh so this is where Max comes from!"
@@unicornsprinkles8964 yeeessss
Who knew the Bi-rates on TikTok were far more historical than most realized? I love History.
Same. I love gay history
Same
*pun exists* Nooooooooo
Wait. This is a subculture on tiktok? I am about to ruin my frog-only fyp for this
To think she accomplished so much and history doesn't even remember the name given to her at birth. :(
That may possibly just be western history books. We don't know about China. And they are roughly a third of the world's population. We may as well be the uneducated fraction of it all.
@@MissSeraphine Unfortunately it seems it's pretty usual for South-East Asian history accounts to only name the women as "Mother of", "Daughter of" or "Wife of". The Heian era women in Japan wrote some bomb literature at the time, yet we only know them by their pen names or as those familial relation titles. It's sad.
I think her birth name was Shih Yang.
Can you please talk about Hildegard von Bingen? She was a nun who wrote music, books and taught about herbal medizine. She was likely schizophrenic and suffered migraines. So she was both disabled, powerful and cool.
I totally second this. I did a history paper in college on musical nuns of the Medieval period and Hildegard von Bingen was by far my favorite. She also broke a ton of gender stereotypes during her life. I would love to hear your take on her amazing life!
And she was HELLA gay.
There is a TH-cam channel named after her where they do bardcore covers
@@kimberlyreitsma yeah, her take on stuff like clothes was totally feminist.
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The title: Pirates are gay and the best one was a woman
Me (whose favourite TV show is Black Sails): You are absolutely 100% correct
🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️ God i love that showww
Jessica this video is pure gold. Absolute pure gold.
And you need to be in charge of some sort of BBC/Netflix/Hulu/whatever platform period drama/dramedy show about pirates of Hispaniola & Tortuga and a second one about Ching Shih, because your summaries are too perfect for these to not exist.
You are so kind, thank yo so much!
@@jessicaoutofthecloset hey bestie I hope your well and your pregnancy wife I love and I been watching you from the beginning 🙏🏻👩❤️💋👩🌞
@@amym3745 yes you can just believe in yourself
Pirate is my most favourite aesthetic. Nobody looks bad in a pirate shirt. NOBODY, I tell ya!
Having worked at the Renaissance faire, you speak pure facts. It's a universally good look.
@@bridgetthewench specially if combined with leather pants
@@nessyness5447 Plus a snug fitting corset or something similar and a headband and the look is complete!😊
@@yunamchill9169 pretty much the last photoshoot i did with my photographer friend because we were bored the other day XD
Bernadette Banner did a video on a diy pirate/work shirt. I'm making a few this year if I can get ahold of some good fabric.
Historical gay stories are the best thing, if they’re not tragic... I hate how the straight agenda is trying to erase LGBT+ history, I’ve never heard about these events and people and I’m really thankful that you made this video❤️
yeah ❤
Most pirates were terrible people tho
Shush.
@@Cairo40000 True, Pirates were horrible people regardless of sexuality, some of them even used slaves, "The Berber pirates or North Africans were slavers, they mostly hunted down European ships or raided the European coasts, even going as far as Iceland, to enslave people, mainly women, who are sold as sex slaves."
There is no such thing as "straight agenda", mostly LGBT agenda
Is this about Anne Bonny? Please say yes!?
Edit: ah no but this lady is awesome anyway
Edit: yes Anne Bonny!!
If anyone hasn’t watched Black Sails, I highly recommend it.
Such an emotional roller coaster
I already knew who it was going to be about but I still felt like she was gonna mention Anne Bonny and yep, indeed. Also Black Sails is amazing
I still can't get over them both being pregnant at that exact moment. Man.
I wonder if they really were, or if they fibbed and people were just like "ok sure". Miscarriages are pretty common even now, so if a couple of weeks later they were like "the stress of capture made me lose the baby" nobody would think twice about it.
Its possible they knew they were or possible they said it and convinced a prison guard to help them along with it. But they were examined by the court and found to be pregnant. I like to think that Anne Bonny escaped as there is no record of her hanging and there is record of the rest of the crew's
She did escape! And then continued being a pirate under the name Bartholomew Roberts, until she died, a couple years later.
@@theweatherwitch2492 the fierce pirate Roberts!!
Actually, in most historical accounts, she went to live with her wealthy father in the Carolina colony, but an amateur historian recently found a record of the death of an Ann Bonny in a nunnery in Jamaica around 1730
Well that was fascinating. Your historical videos are my favorites.
One tiny suggestion: Maybe leave some citations of your sources in the notes for those who want to read more?
I mean, I'm both gay and a pirate. Just not the cool variety of either.
EA doesn't deserve my 40 bucks
:) this is very, very cool.
What’re you talking about? Of course you’re the cool kind of pirate!
@@cordeliajackson8615 thank you
Hey, in a world where game publishers are increasingly try to erase any forms of consumer rights and protections so that they can milk us for everything we're worth in exchange for increasingly inferior products, that variety of piracy is cool as hell!
Edit: And that's not even getting into the worker abuse and exploitation.
@@FlorenceFox oh I am very aware of all the flaws of the games industry because I am actually trying to get into it. There's some good companies out there but EA and Blizzard don't hold my respect, nor my money.
It's worth mentioning that the buccaneers learned how to make and use boucan from the native Taíno people (and the Taínos are really the reason we have barbecue today!)
Pirates: there were gays, there were poor people, there were prostitutes, there were disabled people, there were runaway slaves, there were Native Americans.
Truly the proof that nothing unites people like a common enemy
@@maitesoto1953 if you could do your job they took you on, no matter what race
@@maitesoto1953 absolutely must give credit to the native Taino people! 👏🏿
I once saw someone argue that pirates had no concept of ableism. And I have to say, I agree.
The fact that THE image of a pirate is that of a man with an eye patch* and a wooden leg shows a lot about their thoughts on disability. I think it boiled down to "can you still do something we need? K great, moving on then"
*yeah it's said that's because it made it easier to maneuver in the dark or something like that just stay with me here
@@maitesoto1953 You forgot the hook-hand part of the archetype
Pirates also had a system for compensating injuries incurred during raids
(edit: Oh she covered that lol)
Could we have kept this please.
God, you people are absolutely pathetic.
Well, we clearly need some "Pirates are gay and the best one was a woman" merch.
I may have to draw up some comics.
I second this!😂 please do!
I did a report on Madame Ching Shih. She is honestly one of my favorite women in history. Such a badass.
I would love to see Ching Shih's story made into a Netflix show in the same style as Bridgerton!
I saw this title and got SO excited! I did a huge project on gay lady pirates around the world in third grade, and really that should have been a clue at the time that I was BI AS HECK. 💖
The adults in your life must have been pretty darn awesome if you even knew there *were* gay lady pirates in third grade.
@@resourceress7 Thankfully it turned out the adults in my life were just as LGBTQ+ as I was. I was INCREDIBLY lucky. :)
The fact we haven’t gotten a historial epic miniseries or film following Ching Shih is beyond criminal.
You could say pirates really liked... booty. 👀
As one with a bachelor's in History, I must say that I would have loved to take a history course from you. Wait! That's what's happening now.
I enjoy your glee in telling us when something is exceedingly gay that was hetero in public opinion 🥺
I think there are few things in the world I love as much as Jessica's historical profiles and when they're about gay pirates and rich pirate queens ... I love.
I haven't even watched the vid yet but HOLY HQFWGWUSV I was wondering when someone would speak up about my loveliest pirate idol, queen of the oceans
Edit: omg yes it's really MISS CHING SHI, YESSS
I can't express how happy I am that I know what she'll talk about
Edit: Wait no nevermind I was thinking of different gay pirates
That just goes to show how many gay pirates there were
Don’t be shy, what pirates were you thinking of?
@@crystalcat3877 Well there were probably a lot of what we would call queer pirates because of how social customs were ignored, but I was thinking of Anne Bonny and Mary Read, British pirates in the Caribbean.
@@LiceParasite but she does talk about them
She talks about them later in the video
This is the definition of “They we’re bad people but they weren’t *bad people* “
The 5 dislikes are black beards ship
I absolutely didn't just watch this twice, in case I missed something. Also, Jess kills anxiety.
Seeing how excited you got talking about Anne Bonny, may I interest you into watching Black Sails? Ask Rowan Ellis, she has a full video essay on the series. Gay pirates? Check. Female ones? Check. Poliamory? Check, check. Go ahead. Watch it.
Alternate title: All the Gay and POC Netflix’s ‘Lost Pirate Kingdom’ left out
today I learned that Pirates of the Caribbean was surprisingly well-researched 🤯
STOP! Stop right there, you had me at gay pirates.
"No, really, quite quite gay." 😁🌈🦄
It's my favourite thing
my Mother is related to the Pirate Queen GRACE O’Malley
The name sounded familiar (and obviously irish) so I wanted to look it up and I believe your talking about Gráinne mhaol? Shes very well know over here but I've never heard her being referred to as Grace O'Malley?
I'm actually from and have lived in Co Mayo my entire life if that's any interest to you 😁I've been to her old castle many times. It's really cool!
If you haven't seen this, the series "Black Sails" has both Anne Bonnie and many other LGBT+ storylines. And it is a generally good watch.
I heard that Disney originally before Depp started making them millions of dollars didn't like his portrayal of Capt. Jack Sparrow, and asked him why he was playing the character so gay. Dep replied, "I only play gay pirate rolls" Or something to that extent. They told him to change the character because it seemed too "GAY" for them, and he said, "No" I don't follow much in Hollywood, but I did catch one three minute clip of how he created the character. Not that I have watched the movies though. Honestly, I think his whole idea was the idea that he had been out to sea way too long in the sun and drank way to much rum... That walking on land would be hard, and land legs are an issue for people who have been out to sea for a stint even a crossing of an ocean.
I once spent three days in a cruise ship and when I came back to land for the first couple days I would get randomly dizzy. Like seasick but on land. Land legs are real
Johnny said something more along the lines of "All the characters I play are gay"
@@maitesoto1953 Same here. xD I kept asking my friend if the land was swaying,
"Yes. But, no."
"Okay."
**Both of us resume walking like we're on a ship in a slight storm**
My mom told me this joke as a child: Three kids are trick or treating. One was dressed as a knight, one was dressed as a fairy, and the last was dressed as a pirate. At the first house the lady answered the door and asked each of the kids about their costumes. When she came to the pirate she asked "Where are your buccaneers?" The boy looked at her with a frown and said "Under my buckin' hat!"
Mate-lotage is just the fanciest way to say "they were roommates!"
"Now occasionally accented by women" made me choke; I love it
Love me some female pirates! Anne Bonny and Grace O'Malley are great too! (pirate series? lol)
bro I need to know more about Anne Bonny also Gráinne Mhaol is such a badass that she's mentioned in a bunch of Irish songs through history, mostly bc she rebelled against the British who had nearly taken over Ireland by the time she was living. So for example there's a famous Irish song called Óró Se Do Bheatha Abhaile and there's this whole verse that goes something like "Tá Gráinne Mhaol ag teacht thar sáile, oglaigh armtha léi mar gharda..." and it's about how she's coming over sea with her warriors. The song was used basically when the Irish were rebelling against/fighting the British and I just think it's so cool that she was considered so badass that she was immortilized in a song in a time of like, rampant sexism. I feel like that's relatively rare in history, right? Like people making an awesome woman into a sort of icon was not as common.
I love that "Pirates were Gay and the best one was a woman
" even if I know that they were the bad people but it still feels empowering you know
Maybe you'll find some relief in knowing they weren't all necessarily the worst? Blackbeard supposedly never hurt any of his prisoners, and Captain Benjamin Hornigold apparently once hunted a ship just to ask the crew to give him their hats, as his men had lost theirs, and then left them alone. There's quite a few interesting stories lol. They, like, did very many morally wrong things, obviously, but they weren't bloodthirsty villains, and were generally more about stealing from powerful empires to sustain their lives outside of the statu quo than about hurting innocent people
I am now seriously considering this for my chosen research topic for my history studies
I love it how Jessica takes the time to apologise for the possible mispronunciation of names when she's deaf and is completely excused from not knowing how to pronounce them (while still putting in A LOT of effort and probably not "butchering" the names as badly as she thinks). Meanwhile, most hearing youtubers don't even bother looking up the pronunciation of foreign names.
You: pirates are gay
Me, an intellectual, who watched Black Sails: Yes, I Know. Piracy is a gays only event
Fun fact: It has actually been quite common historically to use adoption as a form of gay marriage. It was legal, made people your closest relative without blood relation and usually required no significant age difference and only the agreement of both people directly involved if done in adulthood. It could also help in immigration. Of course, adopting children together wasn't possible, but even having children together would be somewhat possible if one partner brought them into the relationship. They would legally be siblings instead of children to the adopted partner, but it was overall a great option for people working with a system that didn't really accommodate or want them.
so i can’t watch this video yet but i have to mention that my first reaction upon seeing the title in the notification was ‘hell yeah!’
Somehow, the expression "Be gay, do crime" comes to mind :'D
By the way, one account I've heard about Ching Shih's "retirement" from pirate-hood, basically went like this:
Ching Shih et al.: "Hey government, you want us to stop, right? Howzabout we retire and promise not to do the pirate thing, if you let us go free with our money and lives?"
Government: "Uhhh suuure, come sign a treaty at the city?"
Pirates: "Sure. Oh yeah, and we'll come unarmed, to show you we mean well."
Government: *sighing in relief* "Oh, sounds great! Totally won't capture you!"
And they did come unarmed.
Their fleet was docked at the port with 10 000 pirates in waiting.
But *Ching Shih* and the other leaders didn't have weapons :'D
They signed the treaty and went their way, and the lady herself founded a gambling house and lived rich for the rest of her life.
So I don't know how reliable this story is, but it's definitely a badass story, for sure! :D
My AP History teacher actually covered this and I am so hyped to learn more
In the US, schools often have mascots, and the mascot at my High School was (were?) the Buccaneers (I live in coastal Florida, so the nautical theme is big here). This video gives that new meaning to me!
Jessica, you always know how to brighten our days! That title combined with the fact that you're here means I'm ready to smile for at least the next 18 minutes!
I love your videos so much!! This absolutely fantastic - gay pirates are the best 🖤
Me: I'm bored let's see what's on TH-cam
(sees Jessica's new video)
Me: Avast mateys!
Storytime ahoy
we had a talk about gay pirates in lgbt club in school a few weeks ago!
Amazing video! You should do one on Empress Cixi, an interesting, controversial and very powerful chinese empress not talked about enough :)
Blackbeard being more famous and hailed at "The greatest pirate" is those headlines where it was a woman who got the gold and broke a world record, but the guy who got the bronze medal is the one who's named and treated like he won
"Pirates are gay"
🙂
"and the best one was a woman"
😍
Ireland has pirate Queen too!! So cool
I am proud to have taught my summer camp students about all three of the lady pirates in this video. They were all certified badasses!
It is literally my job to be a pirate or a gladiator or a viking runnin around with swords being "educational" and I'm so excited that this is getting a fan resurgence but gutted we haven't been able to do shows for the covid :'(
PLEASE teach at all schools. thankyou.
off topic, but id love to see baby fashion show
11:13 "I'm a woman, and I'm VERY attracted to you."
This absolutely melted my gay heart!
Your accent on Chinese names was great!!! I greatly appreciate the effort you made to properly pronounce everything!
How did I hear nothing of the sort like this until now?! Pirates and gay are my life fuel!
*Ahem*
Not literally a pirate...
Obviously...
Thank you for feeding my pirate obsession, this was very much needed :D
All that going on, and Assassins Creed Black Flag had you play as some straight white nobody without so much as a Welsh accent to make him cool lol
Im from Dominican Republic. It great to learn this. Thx Jessica ❤
I just got this book it’s called “all out” it’s a collection of short stories about LGBTQ+ characters (there’s even an asexual character!). Some of the stories are based off real people. Anyway this video remind me of this book because one story was about 2 girls who ran away from their weddings to become pirates together!
This is one of the best acknowledgements I've seen of teachers using the best TH-cam clips to support teaching. If I don't know enough about a topic to do it well in PD I go straight to TH-cam for a short clip of an enthusiast talking about it...
I hope you read about Grace O Malley. She was an Irish pirate queen and activist. She even met with Elizabeth 1 where they had to speak in Latin, as neither spoke the others native language.
Not all pirates were gay, I'm a descendant of Bartholomew Roberts aka Black bart, his real name was john Robert's and he wasnt gay.
Hello everyone, I hope you all have a great week. Stay safe out there and don't forget you are a valid, worthy and cared about.
This video was hilariously saucy, yet highly educational! Well done, Mrs. Kellgren-Fozard!
This is a very exciting video to watch while I'm hand sewing a pirate shirt!
I needed this pirate content after having just finished Black Sails.
I think this is my favorite one... Because I actually learned about Cheng Shih during one of my many spirals down into the bowels of the internets!
The novel (and audiobook) "A Pirate's Heart" by Catherine Friend is a wonderful exploration of a lesbian pirate story. It also contains a 'modern' pirate story that is as fun and intriguing as the one that happens on the high seas. 👍
Just as when I got into my pirate phase, Jessica makes a video about gay pirates. I feel extremely happy right now 😭
I came back to rewatch this absolutely stellar video after seeing the new gay pirate show Our Flag Means Death. That’s a fun time but it’s even cooler to hear about real historically queer pirates. A+++
The vibes? Immaculate
The energy? Chaotic
The agenda? Gay
Hotel? Tri-*gets silenced by fearsome pirate*
"No, quite gay... now strap in for a history romp"... is literally the most eloquent and amazing sentence I ever heard. 🤣✌️
ugh this is iconic
Rewatching this after Our Flag Means Death season 2 just started and found Zheng Yi Sao as a major character :)
Yessss, I LOVE this series!!! ❤️
Don't tell any Republicans about any of this, my oh my, they'd flip there wigs