Will be streaming today @ 4 pm cst on www.twitch.tv/zoxaskun we'll be getting into some more reactions for wuthering waves and taking a look at PGR for those that aren't familiar with kuro games yet! see ya there! oh and make sure to follow me on twitter too twitter.com/zoxaskun
What is frustrating is what a lot of these people want already EXIST, PGR it is right here. It is the one game in my mobile library that is under the skill only and these guys are just unbelievable. There is a lot of rexlents in this game is insane skill people they do all this crazy shit and in pgr it takes a long time to break the skill cieling vs reaching the paid one and the first skill gap was right at the very beginning. Kuro made a boss near impossible but possible via souls boss style
Yeah i agree , i think the more you here opinions from players or even cc's in the western space they truly dont know what pgr is or know little about it, it is crazy how many people dont know how insane good kuro is
@@Zoxaskun Its also hilarious how how a lot of the bigger names like MTashed or Tectone who constantly say they want a more challenging game refused to play PGR cause either the views weren't there or in Tectones case he refused to actually learn how to play and thought you could just hack and slash through the tutorial like most action games.
Exactly! To me, my experience with Kuro is even more surprising because my first gacha is Genshin and HI3. Man, when I started playing PGR, a new standard was set for me regarding gacha monetization and player communication.
To be fair PGR is still old and a lot of the newer updates have been so under the radar I only found out about PGR a week after the first reveal for WW when Chixia looked like an NPC and the Chinese server and the insane gameplay I did not understand But the problem is it's old news and not new and people are stubborn to go look at it because it won't have so many eyes around it for content creation Yes people want money from popular stuff I think it's a passed phase they may not get into since everything is already explained they won't get to explore it being new
Honestly the nicest thing I can say about ZZZ is their crisp animated cutscenes and character designs always being so good for "obvious reasons" If that's your Forte then by all means it's good that WW also gets good at character designs to appease that side of the internet as well ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) From a cutscene and animation standpoint they literally never miss holy moly so much has improved already from leaks and I can't wait for the cbt2 to see what's new if I can play it or watch my favourite creators re-experience it considering major story changes Regarding the artifact and leveling system it's already infinitely better than the name of that game I shall not invoke for my own sanity, and well it has shiny hunting so Immediate replay value Anyway these games are vastly different where ZZZ aims to be more cartoonish and goofy, you can see that with the animation style and gameplay as well as the entire character of Billy and WW aims for more hardcore players who love to be challenged and engaged with the narrative and gameplay Its not that they're incomparable but they're so different in their niches, I think ZZZ will get an audience if they get rid of that god awful TV system that makes the game a slog and if WW has better art direction for their world to not feel like an empty void even if I liked it I want the game to succeed
This might be a hot take but if I want to play a better ZZZ I would just play HI3 or even PGR, the gameplay loop itself isn't enticing enough to hook people in and additionally we also have to think about what ZZZ could offer in the future if the loop is just that, also with the uproar with Genshin the possibility of it having endgame content is none. Some people are saying that ZZZ was suppose to be cater towards Genshin hardcore players who likes action oriented combat however WuWa already covers what some players want.
That's what I thought as well. Why would I play ZZZ when there's something like PGR, HI3, or Aether Gazer. Character designs and stories aren't enough for me. There must be something novel.
@@CoFF3e_Man Glad to see that people share this sentiment cause some parts of the Hoyo community are just too positive to talk about the negatives that will affect the game long term, they will either say "The game is free stop complaining" or "The game is just not for you go play something else" which makes me hesitant on criticizing their games and seen as an outlier that brings in "negativity".
Absolutely, thats why i still play PGR. It feels so rewarding when you'll manage to dodge / parry enemy's attack. And if you're skilled enough, you can defeat high level bosses with remember his attack pattern. Cant wait for WW 🔥
kuro games is cooking with wuthering waves i have been a pgr player since release and i love the game its the best gacha game i have ever played(i played ggz,arknights,blue archive,azure lane,hi3,hsr and genshin) but for some reason pgr is simply the best one so i am expecting alot from wuthering waves as always i love kuro games.
I bet they’ll eventually make a close quarters boss that has one shot mechanics against ranged players so they are forced to go close up and actually require skill to kill , instead of sitting at the edge of the arena , going in circles and sniping it …
Storywise I'm not really that concerned because before CBT2 was announced there was a Private Beta Test on the CN side and it seems I hear no one complaining or constructively criticizing it...what do you think Zox?
because they all signed NDA and they not allowed to speak anything about the game in detail or critismn the game otherwise they break the NDA and must face consequences
There is only 1 thing that’s stopping me from playing this game. It’s on mobile and I absolutely despise playing any action games on mobile. I wish this releases on console day 1, all im asking.
Zox this is a stretch...they are both two completely different genres fulfilling two different roles and experiences, catering to a different audiences. Well by the title of this vid atleast xD but yeah...as you can see by my avatar I'm pgr and kuro simp. I hope people like solo doesn't get into cbt2 but that is me
lol Well this is what is implied from the video I'm reacting too lol but I have no ill will towards anyone honestly im just going through the space and weighing in on others ideas., i feel like the idea of what players wanted zenless to be vs what it actually is, is the discussion at hand but your right the companies goal wasn't to cater to the same audience for sure.
@@Zoxaskun I just want more people like you, rexlent etc to get the real spotlight to be the cc's of this game and not be some angry bitter drama mongerer as the ones coming in to possibly ruin things. This is kuro's one chance to get the attention they truly deserve I'm both hyped but extremely scared
Both action games with perfect dodge and parry mechanics. Both focus on fast paced combat with skill ceiling. Both are third person hack and slash. The only difference is one is a tv flipping simulator like you're Estace from Courage the Cowardly Dog with the occasional gameplay and the other is an open world, post apocalyptic game where you're in the wheel 99% of the time (save for the cutscenes). Being a rogue like doesn't bar ZZZ from comparison and taking that skill-based void in players' hearts.
ToF was overhyped and flopped... Reverse 1999 not so much... ZZZ, I aint finna touch it if that TV crap dont get a removed or given a VERY small roll... I have a feeling, WW will not be as difficult as yall are thinking... but hes contradicting himself tho, if you like Dehya even though shes trash, you can use her to clear whatever content you want just like if you want to clear with a level 1 character...
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Will be streaming today @ 4 pm cst on www.twitch.tv/zoxaskun we'll be getting into some more reactions for wuthering waves and taking a look at PGR for those that aren't familiar with kuro games yet! see ya there! oh and make sure to follow me on twitter too twitter.com/zoxaskun
What is frustrating is what a lot of these people want already EXIST, PGR it is right here. It is the one game in my mobile library that is under the skill only and these guys are just unbelievable. There is a lot of rexlents in this game is insane skill people they do all this crazy shit and in pgr it takes a long time to break the skill cieling vs reaching the paid one and the first skill gap was right at the very beginning. Kuro made a boss near impossible but possible via souls boss style
Yeah i agree , i think the more you here opinions from players or even cc's in the western space they truly dont know what pgr is or know little about it, it is crazy how many people dont know how insane good kuro is
@@Zoxaskun Its also hilarious how how a lot of the bigger names like MTashed or Tectone who constantly say they want a more challenging game refused to play PGR cause either the views weren't there or in Tectones case he refused to actually learn how to play and thought you could just hack and slash through the tutorial like most action games.
Yeah it's here but it's old, the characters look great but the scenery...there is none, and it's not open world.
Exactly! To me, my experience with Kuro is even more surprising because my first gacha is Genshin and HI3. Man, when I started playing PGR, a new standard was set for me regarding gacha monetization and player communication.
To be fair PGR is still old and a lot of the newer updates have been so under the radar
I only found out about PGR a week after the first reveal for WW when Chixia looked like an NPC and the Chinese server and the insane gameplay I did not understand
But the problem is it's old news and not new and people are stubborn to go look at it because it won't have so many eyes around it for content creation
Yes people want money from popular stuff I think it's a passed phase they may not get into since everything is already explained they won't get to explore it being new
19:25 We need a petition to bring Alpha Crimson and Bianca(The good one. I think Veritas) to WuWa bro
Your a little behind Bianca of stigmata is her best frame.
@@24zer0ndYeah thanks man, that's the one I meant. I think she came out during the September/October patch last year right?
@@Dagozyup
We need at least to bring any bow type into wuwa first. Been thinking about alisa
mommy vera
Wassup Zox, new subscriber here(Subbed yesterday).
WuWa is looking to be real big and I hope that Kuro doesn't disappoint.
Welcome fam! hope all is well and yeah im hoping for the best myself everything looks very promising though for sure
Honestly the nicest thing I can say about ZZZ is their crisp animated cutscenes and character designs always being so good for "obvious reasons"
If that's your Forte then by all means it's good that WW also gets good at character designs to appease that side of the internet as well
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
From a cutscene and animation standpoint they literally never miss holy moly so much has improved already from leaks and I can't wait for the cbt2 to see what's new if I can play it or watch my favourite creators re-experience it considering major story changes
Regarding the artifact and leveling system it's already infinitely better than the name of that game I shall not invoke for my own sanity, and well it has shiny hunting so Immediate replay value
Anyway these games are vastly different where ZZZ aims to be more cartoonish and goofy, you can see that with the animation style and gameplay as well as the entire character of Billy and WW aims for more hardcore players who love to be challenged and engaged with the narrative and gameplay
Its not that they're incomparable but they're so different in their niches, I think ZZZ will get an audience if they get rid of that god awful TV system that makes the game a slog and if WW has better art direction for their world to not feel like an empty void even if I liked it I want the game to succeed
By the way I hate ZZZ but I'm just being charitable lmao
Imagine they release the game and even with all the backlash, the TV system stands lol 🤣.
@@Beeeeeewwwww knowing hoeyo, they aint changing shit
This might be a hot take but if I want to play a better ZZZ I would just play HI3 or even PGR, the gameplay loop itself isn't enticing enough to hook people in and additionally we also have to think about what ZZZ could offer in the future if the loop is just that, also with the uproar with Genshin the possibility of it having endgame content is none. Some people are saying that ZZZ was suppose to be cater towards Genshin hardcore players who likes action oriented combat however WuWa already covers what some players want.
i actually dont think theres anything wrong with this statement lol
That's what I thought as well. Why would I play ZZZ when there's something like PGR, HI3, or Aether Gazer. Character designs and stories aren't enough for me. There must be something novel.
This ain't a hot take...almost all of us bsically agrees to this lol
@@CoFF3e_Man Glad to see that people share this sentiment cause some parts of the Hoyo community are just too positive to talk about the negatives that will affect the game long term, they will either say "The game is free stop complaining" or "The game is just not for you go play something else" which makes me hesitant on criticizing their games and seen as an outlier that brings in "negativity".
@@CoFF3e_Man not really im more excited for zzz
Absolutely, thats why i still play PGR. It feels so rewarding when you'll manage to dodge / parry enemy's attack. And if you're skilled enough, you can defeat high level bosses with remember his attack pattern.
Cant wait for WW 🔥
kuro games is cooking with wuthering waves i have been a pgr player since release and i love the game its the best gacha game i have ever played(i played ggz,arknights,blue archive,azure lane,hi3,hsr and genshin) but for some reason pgr is simply the best one so i am expecting alot from wuthering waves as always i love kuro games.
Ngl, that's a good wallpaper right there at the right pause @3:13 😅
I bet they’ll eventually make a close quarters boss that has one shot mechanics against ranged players so they are forced to go close up and actually require skill to kill , instead of sitting at the edge of the arena , going in circles and sniping it …
Storywise I'm not really that concerned because before CBT2 was announced there was a Private Beta Test on the CN side and it seems I hear no one complaining or constructively criticizing it...what do you think Zox?
because they all signed NDA and they not allowed to speak anything about the game in detail or critismn the game otherwise they break the NDA and must face consequences
What's up zox fam!
whats up yato!
Theres already puniahing gray raven which have a very high skilled performance game.. Zenless zone gameplay is like 50% less than pgr combat
Is there any possible to get cbt2 for global players ww already popular in china so meany china people applied for cbt2 what about global players????
Bro, there will be CBT2 for WuWa in February or March. CBT2 registration is already open until 7 February i think?
Man, I can’t wait!!
no way they drop the ball like tower of fantasy this game better be good and kuro games can do it right
been playing PGR since launch I KNOW WuWa is gonna be 10x better and pgr is already goated
There is only 1 thing that’s stopping me from playing this game. It’s on mobile and I absolutely despise playing any action games on mobile. I wish this releases on console day 1, all im asking.
Aint no way u compare this with tof 😂
Zox this is a stretch...they are both two completely different genres fulfilling two different roles and experiences, catering to a different audiences. Well by the title of this vid atleast xD but yeah...as you can see by my avatar I'm pgr and kuro simp. I hope people like solo doesn't get into cbt2 but that is me
lol Well this is what is implied from the video I'm reacting too lol but I have no ill will towards anyone honestly im just going through the space and weighing in on others ideas., i feel like the idea of what players wanted zenless to be vs what it actually is, is the discussion at hand but your right the companies goal wasn't to cater to the same audience for sure.
@@Zoxaskun I just want more people like you, rexlent etc to get the real spotlight to be the cc's of this game and not be some angry bitter drama mongerer as the ones coming in to possibly ruin things. This is kuro's one chance to get the attention they truly deserve I'm both hyped but extremely scared
Both action games with perfect dodge and parry mechanics. Both focus on fast paced combat with skill ceiling. Both are third person hack and slash. The only difference is one is a tv flipping simulator like you're Estace from Courage the Cowardly Dog with the occasional gameplay and the other is an open world, post apocalyptic game where you're in the wheel 99% of the time (save for the cutscenes). Being a rogue like doesn't bar ZZZ from comparison and taking that skill-based void in players' hearts.
@@pravum3150 True
ToF was overhyped and flopped... Reverse 1999 not so much... ZZZ, I aint finna touch it if that TV crap dont get a removed or given a VERY small roll... I have a feeling, WW will not be as difficult as yall are thinking... but hes contradicting himself tho, if you like Dehya even though shes trash, you can use her to clear whatever content you want just like if you want to clear with a level 1 character...