OH I had no idea you can sing about coding standard :))) BTW I just didn't understand how "Trailing commas go behind list items " relates to "git blame tightens" Can someone explain ??
Say that you have a list of items, like this: my_list = [ "a", "b", "c", ] And you want to add an item. If there's already a trailing comma behind the `"c", you can just insert a new line and add a new element there without having to change the line that "c" is on. This means that the commit history for the "c" line still shows who originally committed that line. If you have to add a comma after "c" because there was no comma there yet, you'll change that line and your name will now be attached to the most recent commit touching that line. You can still look back further in your commit history, but tools are often designed about easily showing the most recent commit touching a line.
I agree that 79 is unusual in actual production these days, but 160 is completely nuts. Most of my projects use 100. Beyond that I really do think it hurts readability, even on modern displays. That said, even PEP 8 says you should always make sure you follow the prevailing style for the project you're working on, so if that's 160 line length then that's the maximum you should use.
It's not about how wide your screen is, it's mostly about not doing too many different things on a single line. See: th-cam.com/video/wf-BqAjZb8M/w-d-xo.html
😂😂 subscribing...singing along to the chorus "if comments are misleading it will drive people insane, just try to be empathic - just try to be a friend, its really not that hard just adhere to ...PEEEEP8"
Probably not. It's using a copyrighted melody and, on TH-cam, we're covered by TH-cam's Content ID system. Tom Scott made a good video about that: th-cam.com/video/1Jwo5qc78QU/w-d-xo.html (Basically: The copyright holder may or has monetized the video in some regions because they hold the copyright to the melody. If you're seeing ads, it's not us; we're not monetizing the video, but the copyright holder may do that. This is why the video can stay up: without a Content ID system, it would probably have been taken down by now.)
*NEVER MIND* -- the answer to my question is in the conversation under the pinned comment. -What does "git blame tightens" mean? --0:48-- I don't think git or the "blame" command is mentioned in PEP8. Is "git blame tightens" just a reminder that if you mess up the code you're likely to get properly blamed for it, if the project is under version control?-
As a Python programmer for CGI and other requirements, this hit me in the feels. Lololol. Crying with pain and laughter. "Comments are important as long as they`re maintained" Rules to live by. Hahahahahaha. My new favourite song.
79 char line length is a bit narrow and IMO makes the code _less_ readable. I go by Django's style guide and use 119 for code, 79 for comments. Also, that's a _mighty_ UNIX beard!
It's great! However, I'm confused about "CamelCase" here because I was under the impression that it was camelCase and PascalCase. Never heard of anything called "mixedCase". Plus, and prehaps most importantly, 79 characters per line are a remnant of ancient past and a massive pain when writing even remotely functional code using dictionary comprehensions and similar lenghty syntax, so I'd say that 100 character are the bare minimum today. That way, you should still be able to fit 2-3 files next to each other on any ever so slightly modern screen comfortably.
So nice song about PEP8, thank you! I use PEP8 daily, write comments in code review and send code authors to the PEP8 doc page. From now I will send everyone, who don't follow PEP8, here! xD PS: The Mad World song, is one of my favorite that I heard from Donie Darko move at first.
Damn, your voice is absolutely beautiful, 100% fitting the tonality of the song. Amazing parody! (Despite myself not really adhereing to many PEP standards :| )
I can't solve it blind - though I have tried. Maybe one day. I can solve it in under 50 seconds, but that's not exceptional in any way. Basically it's just a cube that's always on my desk so I have something to fiddle with when I'm programming and I need a moment to think about a problem. A zen cube, if you will.
It is! Thanks to TH-cam's Content ID system, you can record songs like these and TH-cam will handle the copyright aspect. More specifically, the copyright holder may choose to monetize a video containing their copyrighted material. Tom Scott made a great video about it: th-cam.com/video/1Jwo5qc78QU/w-d-xo.html
It's based on the song "Mad World". The song was originally recorded by Tears for Fears (and written by their bassist, Roland Orzabal), but this version was mostly inspired by the cover of that song recorded by Gary Jules for the movie Donnie Darko.
Want to read along with the lyrics? We've added the lyrics as subtitles!
It's almost as if the words were already in my head and they simply leave my brain with the rhythm of the song. AMAZING
I like the touch of how camelCase is in camelCase in the subtitles. Awesome.
OH I had no idea you can sing about coding standard :)))
BTW I just didn't understand how
"Trailing commas go behind list items
" relates to "git blame tightens"
Can someone explain ??
Say that you have a list of items, like this:
my_list = [
"a",
"b",
"c",
]
And you want to add an item. If there's already a trailing comma behind the `"c", you can just insert a new line and add a new element there without having to change the line that "c" is on. This means that the commit history for the "c" line still shows who originally committed that line.
If you have to add a comma after "c" because there was no comma there yet, you'll change that line and your name will now be attached to the most recent commit touching that line. You can still look back further in your commit history, but tools are often designed about easily showing the most recent commit touching a line.
Came from Reddit. Thanks for the nice start in my day!
Glad we could make your morning better!
Never thought I would add a youtube video to all my documentation .md files.
And there was much rejoicing..
This is legendary, tears are flowing.
Haha, so good! 👏👏👏
Love y'all
Are you the real real python
@@ankithabhayan324 yeah 100k subs
Damn
Love ya ppl
This brought me to a full weep. Never in my life have I been so moved. Best beard in the biz.
Captain Fisher ☝️
Love it! Going to show this during my classes instead of the boring PEP8 slides ♡
Being a PEP8 advocate myself (with one notable exception: 79 char max line is too short, we go with 100), loved it, sharing with all my peeps.
Ack on the line-length exception. For everything else I just like that someone else decided something for me :-)
I love it. But isn't CamelCase what we use to name classes?
That's PascalCase, not camelCase!
(how old does a comment have to be before it's no longer socially acceptable to reply to it?)
Haha fantastic!
love it!
"when comments are misleading they will drive people insane" my favorite part.
Points for the flipped edge on the cube.
I should put that in my spotify playlist :P
Yes. Yes. Y E S
aka rys... is that you? I’m wait... it’s all objects!
@@nou9225 lmao yes it's me
@@nou9225 hahah where is "always has been..."? That dude completes the iconic duo 😏
And I'm ankith101.rar
Really like this! Superb combination of nerdy lyrics and quality singing.
I have seriously listened to this 4 times so far. Great work!
Still listening, amazing
Those horizontal bars 😭😭. Its where the annoying comma is hiding!
Just feel free to ignore that 80 character line width. Something like 120 or 160 is more 21st century.
I agree that 79 is unusual in actual production these days, but 160 is completely nuts. Most of my projects use 100. Beyond that I really do think it hurts readability, even on modern displays.
That said, even PEP 8 says you should always make sure you follow the prevailing style for the project you're working on, so if that's 160 line length then that's the maximum you should use.
It's not about how wide your screen is, it's mostly about not doing too many different things on a single line.
See: th-cam.com/video/wf-BqAjZb8M/w-d-xo.html
@@swierheeres726 That's a great talk to watch!
Mark my words. This video is going to be in each README.md from now on Python repositories.
Probably better in CONTRIBUTING.md
Najlepszy prowadzący Doktor Zieliński mnie tu przysłał
This was in the references of PEP9001 LOL
Wow. Great job. I think I'm gonna to listen to this everytime before coding session
Dude. I'm grooving and singing along to this like 50th time in a loop. That is so cool.
😂😂 subscribing...singing along to the chorus
"if comments are misleading it will drive people insane, just try to be empathic - just try to be a friend, its really not that hard just adhere to ...PEEEEP8"
stuck in my head the whooole day...
Yep. Its 10:30am, I just saw this and am curled into a ball in the corner for the rest of the day.
This is something I never knew I needed in my life. Thank you. Well done.
Why doesn’t this have a million views? This is fantastic!
Years later still only 100k?! This is pure gold!
Can we get this on Spotify, please? :D
Probably not. It's using a copyrighted melody and, on TH-cam, we're covered by TH-cam's Content ID system. Tom Scott made a good video about that: th-cam.com/video/1Jwo5qc78QU/w-d-xo.html
(Basically: The copyright holder may or has monetized the video in some regions because they hold the copyright to the melody. If you're seeing ads, it's not us; we're not monetizing the video, but the copyright holder may do that. This is why the video can stay up: without a Content ID system, it would probably have been taken down by now.)
Wow, it is beautiful! How could I not find this masterpiece earlier?
*NEVER MIND* -- the answer to my question is in the conversation under the pinned comment.
-What does "git blame tightens" mean? --0:48-- I don't think git or the "blame" command is mentioned in PEP8. Is "git blame tightens" just a reminder that if you mess up the code you're likely to get properly blamed for it, if the project is under version control?-
Amazing singing performance :D. The text stands for itself !
I have a question about camel case vs. caps case regarding classes?
Wow! It must feel awesome to be this creative and create art like this at will. Thank you for sharing and educating. It made me smile, thanks.
This video should be called how to play 'PEP 8 with 8 fingers'
This is so good! hahahah no excuses now.. to now apply PEP8!!! I will sing this song when I do code review!
This is amazing 😆
Camelcase hits home had a whole talk about that about 2 weeks ago.
This is beautiful.
Just shared this for my students.... hope they get the message. 😎🎵
Not the hero we deserved--but the hero we need.
This is beautiful!
As a Python programmer for CGI and other requirements, this hit me in the feels. Lololol. Crying with pain and laughter. "Comments are important as long as they`re maintained" Rules to live by. Hahahahahaha. My new favourite song.
UNDERRATED ASF
Mad World is a fantastic rebel song - turned upside down into a ISO PEP 8 regulation - mad world....
Since hearing this song back then I exclusively use it in all of my python project READMEs
I will send this to my students.
79 char line length is a bit narrow and IMO makes the code _less_ readable. I go by Django's style guide and use 119 for code, 79 for comments. Also, that's a _mighty_ UNIX beard!
1:05 banner regarding comments I need to remember that
OMG. Let's play this at every PyCon!
That was soo good! hahaha, I love it.
such a lovely voice and great rendition of the original song too, very well done.
It's great!
However, I'm confused about "CamelCase" here because I was under the impression that it was camelCase and PascalCase. Never heard of anything called "mixedCase".
Plus, and prehaps most importantly, 79 characters per line are a remnant of ancient past and a massive pain when writing even remotely functional code using dictionary comprehensions and similar lenghty syntax, so I'd say that 100 character are the bare minimum today. That way, you should still be able to fit 2-3 files next to each other on any ever so slightly modern screen comfortably.
So nice song about PEP8, thank you!
I use PEP8 daily, write comments in code review and send code authors to the PEP8 doc page. From now I will send everyone, who don't follow PEP8, here! xD
PS: The Mad World song, is one of my favorite that I heard from Donie Darko move at first.
Got here from "Talk Python To Me". Great song!
Awesome idea and great voice. Good job pyBro
This is the best song
Hey buddy how r u 😁
I know you
@@ankithabhayan324 I also know u
@@euleri0 hmm, idk who you are. you sus af
🧐
I really do feel like all coding language style guides etc should be done only in the form of song. Maybe interpreted dance.
Beautiful
Wow. Thank you for this! It makes me want to pick up python again.
That's obviously one of the best compliments to get. If you do pick it up, I hope you'll enjoy it!
Simply wonderful :D Well done.
Fantastic! 😀
This is now what i listen to while coding, megapog
For me, it is just as great as the original song. Very cool lyrics, i need to learn it 👊😎
You should! It's pretty easy to play. Maybe you should record a cover of my cover of the cover! 🍋👊
Lemon! Sup
Damn, your voice is absolutely beautiful, 100% fitting the tonality of the song. Amazing parody! (Despite myself not really adhereing to many PEP standards :| )
Beautiful. Thank you.
Imaging getting rickrolled my some lines of code.
Good spot!
Instant like!!!
Python, Pep8 and Mad World!!!
but you use camel case for class names 😞
Look at lemon. So inspirational.
I want get flac version!
This is adorable. Thanks for brightening up my morning!
What mic are you using? :o
It's an sE2200a II C.
Wonderful! But somehow I was expecting something... peppier.
This is awesome🔥
You made my day!
This is the greatest thing I've ever heard!
Its fully depent on the python
Started studying python, and the first lesson from the professor is this video. WTF????
Wow! Great job, it's amazing.
This is great! thanks for creating this.
Oh my.. this is the best!
Touching, i found tear in my eye. Nice!
just 4 spaces, just 4 spaces
It's a masterpiece! I can't stop listening
This was amazing, great work!
Absolutely wonderful and fantastic performance!
the best song of ever!!! Pls add this song to deezer.
I think I fall in LOVE.
So. Totally. Happy.
Excellent !
Goosebumps... very good this
Awesome song, thank you.
Bravo!! Great song!
Holy Snake! This is just beautiful
Awesome! Nicely made song ;)
Hi from Peru, nice song
hell yeah
It's amazing!
This is the best song I've heard in my entire life!
1:19 you're blind solver ain't you
I can't solve it blind - though I have tried. Maybe one day. I can solve it in under 50 seconds, but that's not exceptional in any way. Basically it's just a cube that's always on my desk so I have something to fiddle with when I'm programming and I need a moment to think about a problem. A zen cube, if you will.
now im never using camel_case
isn't this melody copyrighted or is this under Creative Commons
It is! Thanks to TH-cam's Content ID system, you can record songs like these and TH-cam will handle the copyright aspect. More specifically, the copyright holder may choose to monetize a video containing their copyrighted material. Tom Scott made a great video about it: th-cam.com/video/1Jwo5qc78QU/w-d-xo.html
OMG, so good!❤
Can I know the original song on which the tune is based on ?
Great video btw!
It's based on the song "Mad World". The song was originally recorded by Tears for Fears (and written by their bassist, Roland Orzabal), but this version was mostly inspired by the cover of that song recorded by Gary Jules for the movie Donnie Darko.