Which Short Course Truck is Best?
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In this episode, we compare the Traxxas Slash, Team Redcat TRSC-10E, Arrma Senton, and ECX Torment. - บันเทิง
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Cool trucks man! I got the sc10e recently from the amazon sale and really happy with it! I just did the aluminum shock upgrade and made a big difference. I recently got the losi TT pro sct but haven't run it yet but looks really nice.
I have been doing a bunch of work to mine, too. I am going to post a video about it sooooooon.
@@10thScaleGarage nice bro! Looking foward to it! I love mine. Best 200$ I've spent! I'm glad I got it as i had just bought the Mojave but me being a addict i couldn't pass up that deal! 🤣🍻👊
The senten after some minor mods is hands down my favorite sct over my slash (which is heavily modified) that redcat though! Crazy fast, I know this is older but thank you for another video
No problemo!
Dude I cant believe u 9only have 128 subs. Love the content. Your channel should blow up.. maybe a lil less montage but that's just my personal perspective.. thanks for the cool vids bro.. subbed!
Hey thanks! I totally agree with the montage thing. Looking at my analytics, I really start to lose people as soon as they roll, but It's my favorite part of the videos to make. Oh well. I truly appreciate the support!
I'm saving for arrma senton. Almost there! My friend has the slash so we will compare them. Cant wait to see the senton come on top. Lol
Nice! An excellent choice!
Just upgrade to the senton from a ecx torment and omg I love it trucks the best on 3s I have no complaints it is very fast and fun
@@dirtbikedion3233 I have a ecx 4x4 torment can I use a traxxas differential?? Just curious
Got the senton blx it hauls a$$. It will lay down rubber. I'm going to put a flysky gyro reciver in it.
What battery plug does armma use?
Great job guys, some very nice slow mo's. Looked cold, not plastics best friend. Thanks for sharing. John
Hey thanks! It was chilly but we got tacos after so it was worth it. Ha ha.
The sequence on the ball diamond was some really nice editing
Thanks! It was fun to make!
Been looking for a video like this for a while and you made it happen 🔥🙌🏼
Thanks man, made my day and my choice of truck!
I aim to please! What did you get??
I have an ecx torment. the truck is fun. I put $250 into it to get a castle sidewinder esc and motor. it rips now. the stock servo after 5-6 years is finally going out on it. but stock, its still really fun
Hello! Thanks for the input! I have never had a traxxas slash, it is my first short cruise and for the price and reviews read on the internet, I would opt for the ecx torment, because its price, (I think it already includes battery and charger) are advantages ... Redcat does not I have so much confidence .... and arrma I have not tried it either .... (my question is is the torment still available?) or will they discontinue it? How easy will it be to find the pinions, gears, arms, etc ... greetings!
ECX is a horizon hobby brand that is only sold in stores. Parts support is decent. I’ve never as any issues locating parts, but it’s often a bit more difficult to track down than other brands.
Nice video man. I don't have any short course trucks myself but I've got two trophy trucks. The Traxxas UDR and the Losi Super Baja Rey. I was going to buy the Traxxas Slash OBA version before the UDR was released, but ended up with the UDR first. Lol. I do like it a lot. I haven't driven the Losi yet as it's more of a shelf queen currently. I want to put the 750 kv motor found in the Super Rock Rey in it before the first drive. Also want to convert it to bottom loading and paint up my own custom body.
I have a UDR, too! They are sooo seeet. That Losi looks awesome too. It was between the UDR, the Losi and the Arrma Mojave. In a perfect world I’d have all three.
I've had a few crappy rc in the past and I finally want to step up and get a slash. Do u guys think a slash is a good option if I want a rc that's quick but can also go through mild terrain. Aka dirt, light snow etc? Btw. Love the video
The Arrma Senton has my vote, but yeah. The slash can handle pretty much anything.
@@10thScaleGarage rustler also good for speed and alterain 2wd and 4wd and pretty equal in price to a slash
Great vid another sub have fun stay safe
Thank you!
Cool video guys! Subbed!
Thanks Brother!
Cool bashing and all the are pretty awesome,great video.
Hey, thanks a lot! I appreciate it! 10th scale scum-baggery is my specialty.
This video is cool but I'm pretty late. Im not too much into short course so about 2 weeks ago I bought a traxxas hoss and I'm very happy with it.
I’ve been hearing good things about it.
I have the senton blx and the only major break I’ve had is losing a wheel... If anyone owns a blx model, beware the right rear wheel has been talked about heavily in Arrma forums. Nothing major, just needs loctite. Why they don’t loctite these from factory is beyond me but being the only issue after it’s abuse I’m very satisfied! This is my second rc I almost bought another rustler vxl tbh! Traxxas or Arrma, these trucks have changed the game especially here recently! Great vid! That slash lookin sexy thoooo 😏
I HATE it when that happens!
I have a slash my self and its tough and durable. Never broke any parts of it but i started upgrading it and replacing parts. I will be upgrading it to brushless. I have a 2wd version. What brushless system is the best.
Castle creations sidewinder 4 esc and 3800kv motor should do ya good bud
@@aaronwoodward6437 thanks for the advice
I’m a big fan of the hobbywing Max 10.
Fun video, I really enjoyed it. I'm now a subscriber. Thanks for the content. Just a quick question, which Slash was that? Traxxas has like 4 or 5 of them. I'm guessing it's not the 2WD version. Thanks!
It’s the 4 wheel drive HCG one. Brushless.
@@10thScaleGarage Ahhhh, thanks! I just bought a 2wd Traxxas Slash Kit and was looking for ideas on what to do with it. I'm still wanting one of the 4WD versions as well.
Who is the song by...?
Sweet bro. I want w sc truck but I dont know what I should get. Looking at a nitro or electric one from nitro rcx website
I got the TR-SC10E for less than $250 on amazon. That's over $100 off. It's one of the fastest RCs i have and the looks are growing on me.
Electric is WAY better nowadays
I put a max 10 stc and a 4000kv hobbywing motor combo in my ecx torment with 3s lipo it goes about 60mph
I believe it. That’s one of my favorite ESC/ motor combos.
This video was released less than a month after I had bought my Slash after not finding any good videos on the topic.
Sorry dude!
I guess it depends on what you’re after...when I was looking to get back into RC 3 yrs ago I hadn’t heard of brands like Arrma or ECX...from the little I know, I think Arrma basically took what Traxxas did with the Slash and just improved on the weak points....I basically got my 2wd Slash with a brushed system for about £180. About a month in, I upgraded with a GoolRC brushless system (3s) and still it came in under £200 ...nowadays, I think Traxxas like any other company (especially car companies) keep bringing out new models which are just the same as what’s gone before but maybe changing one thing and charging more. Just need to see the progression in price from 2wd brushed, to 4x4 brushless and the newer ‘platinum’ edition. I guess what you do with it also dictates how good a product is......e.g Arrma is just too expensive, when I can and do have just as much fun for much less.
Nice video. How fast is the ecx bone stock?
Maybe 20 ish?
Just got a senton yesterday. It’s my first real rc.
Nice! Congrats dude.
I've thought about saving up for an sc10e, would you recommend it?
Unfortunately you can’t get them anymore, unless you find one second hand, but yeah. They’re awesome!
@@10thScaleGarage do you have any suggestions for 10th scale short course trucks around the $250 price range? (I'm okay with upgrading the motor, esc, ect....)
@@stellerate slash 2wd is $199 most durable car I've ever had and the velineon brushless system is around $100 i think so not to bad for price. I think for brushless that's about the cheapest your gonna get but their great cars
I love the senton it's a bad ass truck I got the ECX and Arrma I still got my slashes but I haven't used em in a while. It's mainly my senton and ECX when it comes to them. And then I drive my kraton 6s alot lol and my team associated MGT 8.0s alot I love my nitros
Nitro is where it’s at.
That Senton didn't have the off the line power but look how straight it is ;)
Also, I think the Senton was made more for bashing, it's a heavy rig compared to the others ;)
Exactly. It takes a beating and loves it.
Do you think it doesn’t need tsm? I want to exchange my senton before I open it for a slash
@@Mrjazzzery I don't think anyone needs help with the steering unless you are doing nothing but speed runs...imo. if you plan to race the Traxxas would be a good start but if you wanna just send it every chance you get a Senton is preferred. Senton is a tougher vehicle imo but they are both good, just depends on what you plan on doing ;)
Personally, I love my Senton but tend to drive my Kraton more often than any of my other vehicles ;)
@@jakejager thank you sir!
Yesss looking to get one and just found this video haha
You’ve come to the right place.
Why is losi not in the picture? I feel like the Baja ray and tenacity are both great trucks
They are. I have a Losi Tenacity TT pro, but didn’t have one when we filmed this.
Also where’s the dromida
My Losi Baja Rey Raptor is so freaking amazing.. after 15year retirement this has been a lot of fun and a great trainer to get me back. Now I bought two Arrma Mojave v2. One I'm turning into a parts show truck Red body. and the Green one is my basher✔️😂
Was the Senton the brushed or brushless version?
It was upgraded to brushless. The BLX might be a touch faster than mine, but not by anything noticeable.
@@10thScaleGarage I just bought the Senton mega but I have the brushless system just sitting here waiting to go in. I figured I'd go with the mega since it has the brushless internals. Thoughts?
The ecx torment, is it 3s compatible?
Yes, but only after I upgraded the motor and ESC.
@@10thScaleGarage was the exc modified for this video? If so what were the mods?
Is the senton brushed? Because the senton is a bullet ussualy
Nope! It has a 3500kv brushless motor and a 120 amp speed controller. I think it has a 14 tooth pinion. That’s it’s problem. It has plenty of room for some taller gearing.
@@10thScaleGarage did you swap it to Brushless? because the Red Senton is Brushed from the factory.
Yup! It has a 3600kv motor and a 120 ESC. It’s capable of 4S.
Nice video
If the 22s was in this video where would it rank?
Better than the ECX. Better to drive than the Senton. Slower than the Redcat and Traxxas.
@@10thScaleGarage oh wow that's pretty dang good it sounds like. I will be upgrading the power setup so I don't mind it being slower, but I am glad it sounds like it handles well! I'm going to be racing against a vxl bandit on a short asphalt course haha. Thanks for the response dude, your videos are always super cool subjects that I find interesting
@@foxhoundra6444 Actually it's far superior to the Slash. You can even get a badass aluminum chassis for the 22S.
One of my old buddy's showed up again and he has like 5 slashes so I'm thinking of getting a senton 3s i just love armma I have a slash 4x4 3s brushless and I always break driveshafts constantly. Im done with it. I would rather spend the 140 bucks it takes to get driveshafts that will last on a senton 3s.
Nice! Do it !
Those trucks are tough as hell
Right? Especially the Slash and Senton.
When you jumped it wasnt fair to the slash because you dont have the TSM on
It was definitely on.
Is it worth it to have the tsm over the senton idk what to do
IMO For racing, and if it's right out of the box, team associated makes the best 10th scale. If its bashing, the Arrma senton would be the best.
BTW SUBSCRIBED! Awesome video
Thanks bro! I don’t have a Team Associated, yet. I hear good things though. I would’ve loved to have one for this video.
Redcat gang gang
Cool race
Thanks
Nice trucks
Its also funny 2 rcs running in a big open area always seem to find each other.
HA! right? they're like magnets.
Chris my boy! I just subbed this channel
@@philthyco1 Haha yo Philthy! Yeah 10 scale garage is a cool dude!
@@cwatson42785 Oh Yea I dig this channel already!
I’m torn between the Tenacity TT Pro and the Traxxas Slash 4x4 Ultimate. I get that the Traxxas has better parts availability but the TT Pro looks way better. Which one should I go with and why? They’re only $50 price difference and that doesn’t matter to me.
tt pro all day
@@kubeanie18 Thanks and that’s my thoughts as well. The only real reason people keep pushing me towards the slash is the parts availability.
@@mongillohockey I have a 2wd lcg brushless slash also it is bulletproof. The losi needs upkeep start ordering strut towers and center diff assembly early. But it is a beast
@@kubeanie18 Ah I see. Are those parts for the Losi a one time upgrade or a regular repair? Granted I assume it’s how often and hard you drive it, but I guess my question is more around do I buy one set of those parts you mentioned or stock pile them like ammunition in a zombie apocalypse? Lol
@@mongillohockey stock a few parts it's a matter of how hard u bash it. But those seem to be the weak points 👉
Been looking at getting the traxxas but now kinda wondering about these other cheaper ones.
Nothing wrong with the Traxxas! They’re really durable and parts are easy to find. The slash is like the grand daddy short course truck, but it’s definitely not the only option.
@@10thScaleGarage granddaddy for sure given its history I heard. Lol I'm coming off a Losi XX buggy I bought in 94 and hasn't been used since maybe 99... Part me wants to revive it (almost pristine condition) but other part just wants to buy new.
MaziesButt my first ever hobby grade RC was a Losi XX. If you ever want to sell it, let me know, please!
@@10thScaleGarage tempting actually. It's all original short of ProLine rally rear tires and white 5-spoke front wheels and it's lacking a motor. Ran a Futaba Magnum radio with it.
@@10thScaleGarage how does one get hold of you direct? Have a FB page or something?
If you dont want it to wheely adjust the slipper clutch and make it less tight.
The slash would be way faster if you tighten the slipper. Traxxas's way of doing it makes it so much slower.
The clutch only kicks in in heavy acceleration in a speed run it wont affect the top speed unless the slipper is crazy loose
The slash has been rebuilt multiple times. Reese has it pretty well dialed in. If you watch to the end of the video, we discover that the tires are pretty bald. It was close between the Redcat and the slash, but on this day, the Redcat was the fastest.
I totally agree.
We've all run traxxas and very happy with them
Me and my friend are both going to get the ecx
Good choice!
An senton BLX?
Great video
I usually but the cheap ones, then upgrade them.
@@10thScaleGarage no matter what your doing still great! Arrma senton an good beginners truck? I am 15 years old so i prob want to upgrade ot very much, so are there many after market parts?
where did y'all go
What do you mean? We’re still here.
@@10thScaleGarage lol where are you then
NW Ohio.
@@10thScaleGarageIt looks really nice
Bro why not losi?
I know! I’m trying to convince Ethan to buy one.
Very 👍 cool 👍👍👍
Hobao Hyper 10 SC-E ARR and put good elektronics in it. Best what you can do for the money.
I’ve heard good things about it.
Use gorilla tape to line the inside of the body to increase durability !
Yessir! I do that with a lot of my shells that I want to keep nice.
Have the slash, like the senton.
That’s why you need both! Haha.
Have you gotten your bead stuck in the wheels yet lol..just askn 😐
No
Ik what u mean by the 2wd being quick i have a 2wd rustler with a stock battery and my dad has a 4 wd rustler w 2s and my brother has a stampede with a 2s but i have the fastest car
Heck yeah! Feels good to be the fastest, right?
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idk, the team redcat is like $200 on sale and it is super good race handling. only thing is its discontinued : [
good comparison 🎯
Yeah! I got mine for $260. Sweeeeet deal. Zero regrets.
@@10thScaleGarage yes its worth it
That senton is not a 3s brushless motor that’s the cheap nickel hydrated brushed motor so it’s not fare to run it against those 3 s csrs
Nope, it’s got a 3540 brushless motor and 80 amp ESC in it.
It came brushed, but that didn’t last long.
To be fail, the Torment came brushed, too but that’s had a brushless swap as well.
@@10thScaleGarage I only say that cause I have the 3s senton and it’s way faster then what I seen in the video and it also has a 4s sticker on it which also leads me to believe it’s not the 3s senton
@@10thScaleGarage not saying it’s not tho cause I could be wrong
the ECX torment is only a 2wd in this video !
Yes. I mention that many times.
I have a ecx amp mt and im buying a senton
Nice! I have the ECX Boost. Super fun.
I'm gonna have to grab me a redcat
Do it!
Senton blx 4 x 4
Nice!
the losi 5ive t is the est short course
That’s a 5th Scale gas Powered RC. While those are cool. This video was about 10th scale electric RCs.
10th Scale Garage I know, but the losi 5ive t is still a short course.😀
👍🏼👍🏼
The redcat costs half a traxxas 4x4... Is there a catch???
Parts support, aftermarket and the fact that you can’t buy the Redcat anymore.
Is the blackout SC worse? Looks the same. $159 for brushed $259 brushless
cool trucks guys 4wd so much better than 2wd in my opinion.
I race a 2wd and 4wd at the local track, but for anything other than racing, yeah. 4wd all the way.
I enjoy my Slash 4x4. Bought it in 2014 or early 2015. I try not to think about how much money I put into it. RPM MIP Proline Tekno CastleCreatons KingHeadz STRC HotRacing RobinsoRacing as well as Revo hd clutch with maxx slipper pad mod and XO1 diffs. PureTech ProTek . What else... JConcept Parma Arrma Losi and VG Racing.
I think that's the end of the list of all the companies involved in my upgrades and mods. So it is a monster for off-road bashing session, on-road racing, or rally by wapping the wheels/tires bumpers body. I thought about a HCG chassis for Stampede or perhaps Hoss.
At the end of the day I kind of want to buy one of those 144001 buggies and tell myself no I'm not modding. Something I can easily toss into a backpack. The Slash is great but it's a dated design. Kinda a pain to get to the diffs, newer cars look easier to work on but it's not so bad.
Oh I also have onboard audio and light kits when I choose to run them I'm not a big fan of the onboard audio at least from Traxxas. A Losi onboard audio system that allows custom engine sounds is promising but I really need to just work on a different damn car at this point lol.
Sadly my turbo optimum mid Ultima and RC10 need work and restoration. I'm afraid to run them in this day and age with parts availability being what they are. I've got a few gas cars that are almost as old as I am. A Kyosho LandJump and Impacta Baja. From 1983 and 1986 respectively. I don't think you can get new/replacement chains so I'm not going to be running those until I have spare drive chains.
Really looking for a new RC car... something different and a kit would be great. Perhaps something I can toss the the VXL system into. I did consider a Bandit or Stampede. Though I consider Traxxas overpriced and their business practices have made me really not want to support them perhaps something off the used market.
Holy smokes that’s a lot of upgrades. The 144001 is a lot of fun, but needs the diffs greased and you should really go over all the screws before you give her the beans. The shocks oil is a bit light for my taste, also. If you get one of those. You could modify it by just improving the shortcomings and it would still technically be stock.
I know you can buy the Redcat Wendigo as a kit and add your own electronics. Arrma also has their Kraton EXB kit. Those both look like fun build that would handle that VXL system, no problem.
@@10thScaleGarage thanks for the advice and suggestions I wasn't aware that the shocks on the 144001 could even hold oil as they came.
I had watched your video on the Wendigo and it didn't look like it performed very well as a rock crawler or in general and with a VXL system in it it certainly won't be a rock crawler.I don't have a censored system for any vehicle at this time.
One thing that is really caught my interest of late is something like a trail truck with a fvp setup. Despite what I said about Traxxas the TRX sport looks pretty damn cool and capable. The other vehicle being the Losi super Baja Ray 2.0... I'd have to save up for a while to get that but man it looks awesome.
You had me at hoonery and scumbagery!
Haha. Thanks dude.
the senton 3s is the best SCT speed ,durability, price and part support
Better than Traxxas? Common. It’s close but Traxxas is the yardstick.
I’m debating on a short course truck
Do it! They’re a good time.
10th Scale Garage thanks to your video I shot down to my local hobby shop and picked up a slash vxl 4x4🤦♂️😂...video coming soon
Nice! Congrats dude
Traxxas ok video over thanks
Put the 120A ESC, IT WILL WAKE THAT BLACKOUT SC THE EFF UP!
No blackout here.
Wait it's not called the blackout pro SC? I don't see any other SC trucks on redcat site
Tekno sct410 all day.
I wish I had one.
Hobao?
Yeah. We should get one.
Arma senton 4x4 blx 3s under the tree
Nice!
The mighty DHK Hunter would spank all these trucks
I haven't driven that one. I wish we could've had one when we made this video.
WHERES THE LOSI KING
This was before I had the TT Pro and the Baja Rey.
DHK Hunter is best.
You didn't review the best. Only most expensive 🤦
They get way more expend than a Traxxas slash. My Losi was more expensive than all of these. It’s also way better. I’d like to do this video again with a new selection of trucks.
Who is hobao? 🤌
Bought the senton 5 batteries tires bald 2 no pavement,2 batteries later motor smoked been waiting a month for replacement put a hobbywing 3660 4,000kv motor in it and proline trenchers 21 tooth pinion now it's an animal 57 mph on grass 62 on pavement my buddy with his slash has no chance anymore
Right? The things are tough as nails, too.
I have utterly abused this thing we call it sentinels airways jumped my ram with a ramp on the tailgate easy 15 feet in the air no worries landed her n kept going
If you got the BLX Senton it should shit all over that Traxxas by at least 10mph
It has a brushless system in it.
Kyosho
I want one.
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Too bad you cant get them anymore :(
Please explain what benefit the Heavy Metal music adds to your videos?.... I'm thinking ZERO !
Zero?! The Smashing Pumpkins are my favorite band and I love that song! I think I’d get a copyright strike if I used it though.
Excellent suggestion! Thanks for watching.
Tekno
Drum and bass.
@@10thScaleGarage 🤣
You sir, just earned yourself a new subscriber with that comment lol
Losi is king.
Agreed.
Senton is the best. Slash is over priced
Maybe. Keep in mind, it’s the only one with stability control built in, and the parts support is pretty unbeatable. I agree though. The Senton is my fav.
10th Scale Garage very true. I suppose it depends on the person.
My dad got my slash ran over and had it repaired the next day. That next day I was smoking people driving cars that challenged my rc car.
Nice! Gotta love that Traxxas parts support.
@@10thScaleGarage what batteries would you recommend?
the Senton is a turd. my BLX Senton destroys my VXL Slash
Yeah, this was still running the stock 14 tooth pinion. It has wayyyy more in it for sure. In fact, the motor and ESC I have in it is capable of 4S.
we call them dead cat
My god invest in some hedge trimmers for that rat's nest on your chin, Definitely not a good look dude (sorry)
Stunning criticism from one so handsome.
Imagine saying something so rude to someone you don’t even know on TH-cam. Who hurt you?
Fuck you lonely bitch
@@cashlavoie4634 Truth is hurting you Huh
My stock DHK Hunter would beat them all 🤷
Sweet!
Dude this video WAS NOT HELPFUL AT ALL
About as helpful as this comment.
I would never recommend anything redcat.
Noted.
I'm sorry but I can't stand this guys personality but his friend with the big beard is worse
The senton is the fastest out of the box I think the driver is dogging it.
I blame Ethan.