It's great listening to Rich and Duncan talking about life. As someone who is 32 it would have been great to hear similar thoughts when I was 22. Would love if this was a spin-off show.
@@dari191 Yeah I guess I can join but I just can't find the link, the one on his website is outdated and he doesn't have it on his TH-cam, Twitch, Twitter or Patreon.
@@GenerationalDisappointment i would be curious if thats true for RLs content. Since most is long form. I would guess his audience would listen for the full length. 21 ads sucks but its palletable over 3 hrs
the question around 1 hour 48 min really struck with me, rolling the dice on my life rn and taking a huge risk by changing schools 2 and a half years in to pursue game design. thanks for the content rich and thoorin
The philosophical discussion is spot on. I often find myself thinking very existentially (usually before I can fall asleep) and my mother's advice for that is not to focus on my place, where I am, or where I want to be so much, but to think of what I am grateful for. It really grounds me and clears my mind so that I can take the steps I need to make the most of things.
About that labor of love topic. I think people underestimate the amount of casual players who literally play official deathmatch and gun game in cs but dont care about anything else. The amount of actual hardcore players who also follow the esports side is so minimal. The majority just doesn't know how bad valve treats the game...
Gotta love TH-cam not allowing Rich to promote a betting sponsor. Open the new BTN and there is a huge Sportsbet ad placed underneath the video. Reasonable.
There are actually movements within the chess community towards a more esports-like model (online competitive circuit, shorter time controls, esport orgs, etc,.)
14:36 I agree I think part of it has to do with fans leaning towards individual players rather than organizations. It has to do with how CS works (5v5, easy for one really good player to have a great impact on the game leads to a lot of "star power") and the instability of organizations in the past preventing people from getting attached when they don't know if the team will be around in 5 years.
on the "Labour of Love" thing, i think it just won because more people actually play it than any of the other options, you get to pick between a bunch of options in the final voting and if cs is the only thing you play there you're gonna vote for it. That being said it was an absolute disgrace, there are many other games way more deserving of that award. (PoE was my personal vote)
I voted Terraria cuz it got an update out of left field, filled with soo much new stuff (Journey's End). Everyone had believed that the game was over, and then this comes out. IMO Terraria was robbed.
The Brazilian president didn't say that about the vaccine tough, he only said that Pfizer would suffer no consequences if anything went wrong with the vaccine, and gave an intentionally absurd example "if you turn into a crocodile, that's your problem".
At 1:29:00, Ok I was one of the people who voted for CS:GO as Labor of Love and here’s my explanation. The game was released in 2012, right?, name me one game that people are still playing and loving, and the developers are still updating after 8+ freaking years? Look at the Battlefield, I’ve bought the one about WW1 which was like what 3 years ago, and it’s sick if there are 1K players because there’s BF5 now. CoD? Same shit. What’s else is even on the market? And I don’t wanna buy games every year or every second year, fuck that noise. For all your hate of Valve (some of which is justifiable), we all should be fucking praising them for at least not ruining the game and letting the scene and community to sort out the shit on our own! So yes, I think it’s a Labor of Love, maybe Love/Hate type of love, but they still put out the content, they still update the game after all these years, and they really rarely fundamentally break it (R8 cough cough) and when they do, they tend to fix shit even if it takes time (SG example). So please… please, please, please, you two - big community members - stop shitting on Valve so much, because what we’ve got here, guys, is something really fucking special, and I’d wish for everybody to acknowledge this right now and not when we’ve lost it because Valve will see your mean comments and reactions and will actually ruin the whole shit. Would I want them to communicate more? Yes! Would I want them to introduce more maps from the workshop on some rotation based system? Yes! More modes (although they’ve covered their ground thoroughly with Broken Fang update)? Yes! But if anything, in this forever changing mad world I find solace in the fact that I can launch CS:GO - the game I paid for 5 years ago - and I will still find pretty much instant matchmaking, lots of players, active community, and the devs that aren’t trying to ruin the game just to scalp more profits! So please, let’s appreciate Valve for what they are - non invasive parent, who let the kid to do whatever the fuck they want most of the time and are being mostly supportive of their life choices - feels to me, like the best kind of deal you can get in the real life! Ok, I’m done! Appreciate you for you podcast, you, guys, rock!!! P.S. Please start your own “general topics, politics, media” type of podcast! Please guys!
1:35:45 - It was Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 because they removed dedicated servers, which absolutely killed the competitive scene at the time. Then the Steam group for the boycott had all the top guys snapped playing MW2 on launch. As far as I know, they didn't add dedicated servers again until 2019 with the reboot of Modern Warfare. So that failed boycott resulted in 10 years of peer to peer wankiness.
How can you be loyal to organisations similar to natural sports though? Orgs can leave CSGO at a whim how can you attach your allegiance in a significant way an esports organisation when commitment is so flippant in comparison to an established sports team. My support follows Australian players thats why ive moved from Renegades to 100T and now looking like Extremum.
i mean there are rare cases of teams you can follow like fnc tl thats maybe it lol imo g2 will stick to cs too so you can count on them in the following years
Regarding chess in the sphere of e-sports: a few chess profiles have signed contracts with organizations in e-sports. I'm thinking of Hikaru Nakamura and Andrew Tang, who have signed with TSM and Cloud9 respectively.
I think alot of people sleep on the interview Twistzz did in early 2019 for Raw by Blast. I think he wanted alot of team culture changes within TL that never got addressed. Then they had that summer run that sort of taped over all the problems he had. TL shit the bed during the berlin major and its been a downward drop pretty much from there. New team, with a real team dynamic will do wonders for him
As a brazilian, I have to applaud Richard’s research into our culture. He didn’t get the word malandro right but he got the gist of it. Basically, we as brazilians can’t trust no one, specially brazilians authorities, so we have to hustle for ourselves. About the ridiculous buyouts embedded in contracts, it all stems from our national clubs trying to keep our young stars or at least ripping the most money out of European teams trying to poach them since they cannot compete financially with them. Also Kng posted a Godfather styled pic with vsm, leo_drk, lucas and henrique, trk and cogu which has a caption in portuguese saying “we have a plan”. I will leave yall to take your own conclusions from that.
On MIBR I 100% agree with Richard over Thorin. If it was any other org, I'd trust the org over the players, but Immortals seems to be dying. They're selling all their league spots on the cheap right now, and they did 100% mismanage the Optic acquisition. The IGC needed a win to remain looking like a serious player in the esports space, and it would bring in a reliable source of eyeballs, and therefore revenue opportunities.
Do they not realize how thick some of the hide of the animals they think Sam can take with a kitchen knife is? He's not even doing damage to half of those unless that's some insanely sharpened knife. A cow might not even be dangerous but good luck killing it under that condition.
It feels like CSGO is losing its 'charm', queues are very long nowadays too. Not really much going on in terms of communities. Are we heading towards the end?
@@finnrobertson2592 Except now the statistics and numbers support it, before it was just crap, now it's actually true. Not to mention many other titles taking away players. Just look at the new FPS games coming in 2021 and 2022. CSGO is doneso
@@politicalwatchglobal3509 This month has been CS:GO's third best month of all time, with the 1st and 2nd best months both being in 2020. CS:GO is not going anywhere any time soon
I think in order to call online chess an esport, one would need to call normal chess a sport. Like it is competitive, no doubt, but a sport? I've heard arguments for many sides on this topic. I think it ends up being a matter of definition, and it won't really change cs unless tons of people run around thinking cs is on par with chess somehow, which I very much doubt
I want to see liazz on a roster able to fill jks' roles, we never got to see his true potential :/ also not sure why kassad is coming back to the exact same roster if he left 100T bc he wanted to make changes
@@Ollie-uo9rj Ohhh I wasnt at that point yet, Im down for it in all honesty give them a chance to perform in EU and i could see them middle of the top 10 again
I had to double check I wasn't dreaming. Two episodes in two days. I'm surely dead and in heaven.
The system of a down question/answer was genuinely one of the best, most meaningful clips I've seen on the internet.
Definitely wasn't expecting a deep answer to my shitpost
@@buttp0under420 holy shit it's the legend buttpounder420, free this man 🤧
@@buttp0under420 You don't get what you want, but you get what you need.
Or something like that idk.
@@buttp0under420 man I just listened to soad for the first time in a decade a day before watching this episode. Wild
It's great listening to Rich and Duncan talking about life. As someone who is 32 it would have been great to hear similar thoughts when I was 22. Would love if this was a spin-off show.
Thank you! Richard "IMAGINE" Lewis and Duncan "It's as you say" Shields, back spitting rhymes here in the end times.
I cannot believe there's more BTN
It’s getting ridiculous. I’m tempted to ask for my money back.
I CANNOT BELIEEEEVE IT!!
It would be helpful to include recording date in the description.
yeah i never know if i watched on twitch or not :D
check richard´s discord. you can see when they went live but still the date in the description would be nice.
@@dari191 where the link to join his Discord is? Or is it just for Twitch subs?
@@iirovaltonen4258 I think you can join it. Im a twitch prime sub but I dont know if that is required. I just support Richard because I want to.
@@dari191 Yeah I guess I can join but I just can't find the link, the one on his website is outdated and he doesn't have it on his TH-cam, Twitch, Twitter or Patreon.
The auto ads strike again. 21 ads in the first hour lol. I know Richard doesn't control, but wtf is youtube doing.
That's most likely the average watch time so they need to get all the ads in before people watch something else
@@GenerationalDisappointment i would be curious if thats true for RLs content. Since most is long form. I would guess his audience would listen for the full length. 21 ads sucks but its palletable over 3 hrs
If you fast forward to the end of video and then rewatch, it will get rid of a lot of the ads.
@@daedaethomas47 Thank you. This many ads just ruins the flow of the show.
Got me too! 4 rounds of adds in first 9 minutes.
1:43:00 quite an interesting take by richard I and many people probably haven‘t thought about
Surprisingly wholesome episode. I would love to see more content that is not specific to CS from you two. Cheers and best of luck Rich.
the question around 1 hour 48 min really struck with me, rolling the dice on my life rn and taking a huge risk by changing schools 2 and a half years in to pursue game design. thanks for the content rich and thoorin
The philosophical discussion is spot on. I often find myself thinking very existentially (usually before I can fall asleep) and my mother's advice for that is not to focus on my place, where I am, or where I want to be so much, but to think of what I am grateful for. It really grounds me and clears my mind so that I can take the steps I need to make the most of things.
Back to Back to Back uploads within 3 days, Rich is a legend
Love seeing these episodes pop up in my sub feed. Didn't expect it so soon but I do appreciate it guys. Much love
I just finished the last one can’t believe another one is out already 🔥
About that labor of love topic. I think people underestimate the amount of casual players who literally play official deathmatch and gun game in cs but dont care about anything else. The amount of actual hardcore players who also follow the esports side is so minimal. The majority just doesn't know how bad valve treats the game...
The patreon questions about what they wanted to change the perception of each other broke me
that was probably my favourite by the numbers moment, too fucking wholesome man
"We'll be back next week", but still another hour left... Today was a good day
#FreeButtPounder420
#FreeThePounder
#WhatAboutBluntSmokingAnusDestroyer?
#Poundtown
Gotta love TH-cam not allowing Rich to promote a betting sponsor. Open the new BTN and there is a huge Sportsbet ad placed underneath the video. Reasonable.
Imagine if we got two BTNs every week, it would be the best feeling ever.
That ad distribution lmao
BBRRRRRRRR
For the algorithm, Happy Birthday Richard!
Boy do the viewer questions start with a banger! That was deep real talk on a high level!
There are actually movements within the chess community towards a more esports-like model (online competitive circuit, shorter time controls, esport orgs, etc,.)
That first answer for the patreon question was beautiful, someone clip it please
14:36 I agree I think part of it has to do with fans leaning towards individual players rather than organizations. It has to do with how CS works (5v5, easy for one really good player to have a great impact on the game leads to a lot of "star power") and the instability of organizations in the past preventing people from getting attached when they don't know if the team will be around in 5 years.
on the "Labour of Love" thing, i think it just won because more people actually play it than any of the other options, you get to pick between a bunch of options in the final voting and if cs is the only thing you play there you're gonna vote for it. That being said it was an absolute disgrace, there are many other games way more deserving of that award. (PoE was my personal vote)
I voted Terraria cuz it got an update out of left field, filled with soo much new stuff (Journey's End). Everyone had believed that the game was over, and then this comes out.
IMO Terraria was robbed.
Commenting for the algorithm gods to notice these men!
The Brazilian president didn't say that about the vaccine tough, he only said that Pfizer would suffer no consequences if anything went wrong with the vaccine, and gave an intentionally absurd example "if you turn into a crocodile, that's your problem".
That question from BP420 and the answer is super profound. Damn.
2:32:02 i love how sams instantly on board with it and goes like but gimme a real chefs knife man
I really appreciated this episode! :))
At 1:29:00, Ok I was one of the people who voted for CS:GO as Labor of Love and here’s my explanation.
The game was released in 2012, right?, name me one game that people are still playing and loving, and the developers are still updating after 8+ freaking years? Look at the Battlefield, I’ve bought the one about WW1 which was like what 3 years ago, and it’s sick if there are 1K players because there’s BF5 now. CoD? Same shit. What’s else is even on the market?
And I don’t wanna buy games every year or every second year, fuck that noise. For all your hate of Valve (some of which is justifiable), we all should be fucking praising them for at least not ruining the game and letting the scene and community to sort out the shit on our own!
So yes, I think it’s a Labor of Love, maybe Love/Hate type of love, but they still put out the content, they still update the game after all these years, and they really rarely fundamentally break it (R8 cough cough) and when they do, they tend to fix shit even if it takes time (SG example).
So please… please, please, please, you two - big community members - stop shitting on Valve so much, because what we’ve got here, guys, is something really fucking special, and I’d wish for everybody to acknowledge this right now and not when we’ve lost it because Valve will see your mean comments and reactions and will actually ruin the whole shit.
Would I want them to communicate more? Yes! Would I want them to introduce more maps from the workshop on some rotation based system? Yes! More modes (although they’ve covered their ground thoroughly with Broken Fang update)? Yes!
But if anything, in this forever changing mad world I find solace in the fact that I can launch CS:GO - the game I paid for 5 years ago - and I will still find pretty much instant matchmaking, lots of players, active community, and the devs that aren’t trying to ruin the game just to scalp more profits! So please, let’s appreciate Valve for what they are - non invasive parent, who let the kid to do whatever the fuck they want most of the time and are being mostly supportive of their life choices - feels to me, like the best kind of deal you can get in the real life!
Ok, I’m done! Appreciate you for you podcast, you, guys, rock!!!
P.S. Please start your own “general topics, politics, media” type of podcast! Please guys!
I love you guys, honestly.
I don't belieeeeeve it!
Shouts to ma boy Victor Meldrew 👊
1:35:45 - It was Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 because they removed dedicated servers, which absolutely killed the competitive scene at the time. Then the Steam group for the boycott had all the top guys snapped playing MW2 on launch.
As far as I know, they didn't add dedicated servers again until 2019 with the reboot of Modern Warfare. So that failed boycott resulted in 10 years of peer to peer wankiness.
one of the best episodes of btn
Thanks for making Monday night more interesting guys 👍
How can you be loyal to organisations similar to natural sports though? Orgs can leave CSGO at a whim how can you attach your allegiance in a significant way an esports organisation when commitment is so flippant in comparison to an established sports team. My support follows Australian players thats why ive moved from Renegades to 100T and now looking like Extremum.
same with me with the frenchies, I started with envy, moved over to G2 in 2017, now I just stick with them
i mean there are rare cases of teams you can follow like fnc tl thats maybe it lol
imo g2 will stick to cs too so you can count on them in the following years
Thanks Sam and Rich!
Regarding chess in the sphere of e-sports: a few chess profiles have signed contracts with organizations in e-sports.
I'm thinking of Hikaru Nakamura and Andrew Tang, who have signed with TSM and Cloud9 respectively.
1:01:22 thank you somebody said it
if it was any other footballer or basketballer id get exited af but neymar seems so unreasonable
2:04:00 is a really interesting philosophical throw down about what an esport even is, based on 'is online competitive chess an esport?'
By the numbers makes working from home bearable
truly the highlight of my week
Gefeliciteerd Richard! Wish you the best this year
"Don't let the bastards grind you down". My dad always said that too.
banger episode, loved it
Bruh, its 2 and a half hours long and its barely been 10 minutes
@@omEon He must've watched it live.
Star Traders Frontiers is the only game I know of that's deserving of the award Labour of Love.
I think alot of people sleep on the interview Twistzz did in early 2019 for Raw by Blast. I think he wanted alot of team culture changes within TL that never got addressed. Then they had that summer run that sort of taped over all the problems he had. TL shit the bed during the berlin major and its been a downward drop pretty much from there. New team, with a real team dynamic will do wonders for him
Damn I just watched via phone on my drive and there was like 40 adverts in the first 45 minutes
Over an hour of patreon questions
Kind of a very touching episode.
Can't lie I did vote CSGO for labor of love for a giggle, never imagined it would come to this
Oh, wow, that was quick
gotta love how sam's just lurking in the background going like 'i reckon i could fuck up a deer mate'
Rich thank you so much for saying 5 guys is over rated! Much love bro!
woooow back to back :) thank you for the content
A good definition would be if a sport exists irl and electronically to qualify as an esport they have to require different skillsets.
Another BTN. Another like and comment.
Rich, you say you read every comment? Take this: reminder that the majority of people who don't comment loves you and your work.
As a brazilian, I have to applaud Richard’s research into our culture. He didn’t get the word malandro right but he got the gist of it. Basically, we as brazilians can’t trust no one, specially brazilians authorities, so we have to hustle for ourselves.
About the ridiculous buyouts embedded in contracts, it all stems from our national clubs trying to keep our young stars or at least ripping the most money out of European teams trying to poach them since they cannot compete financially with them.
Also Kng posted a Godfather styled pic with vsm, leo_drk, lucas and henrique, trk and cogu which has a caption in portuguese saying “we have a plan”. I will leave yall to take your own conclusions from that.
Sorry for butchering the pronunciation.
@@RLewisReports don’t sweat it, not a very easy word for English speakers
How the hell did you manage to timestamp everything this is so nuts.
Love the series. always earns a click
Thanks for the real talk, guys.
1:06:45 I don't even think Cr4zy had a sponsor until they had their major run, they literally made a meme video about it.
What’s going on with the ads in this video
Timestamps giving ads prolly
If Sam kills a Hippo 1v1 with a kitchen knife, he is the new Baba Yaga. John Wick has nothin on Sam.
I've never seen so many ads on a RL vid, get that bread 😅
they had us in the first half, ngl
On MIBR I 100% agree with Richard over Thorin. If it was any other org, I'd trust the org over the players, but Immortals seems to be dying. They're selling all their league spots on the cheap right now, and they did 100% mismanage the Optic acquisition. The IGC needed a win to remain looking like a serious player in the esports space, and it would bring in a reliable source of eyeballs, and therefore revenue opportunities.
If the definition of esports is a game that you can only play on the computer, that would actually discount stuff like hearthstone.
Thank god for more
They wouldnt play chess on pcs competitively if we werent in a pandemic. The second lockdown is over, chess esport is dead.
@Thorin 39:00 did you check the sk gaming twitter :O?
My day has been made.
I think Bullet chess is a great example of chess as an esport.
We've been blessed boys
Sam “At least a deer” 😂🤣
lmao if col can sell jks for loads and get twistzz = stonks
We have biterballen in Australia but we call it a HSP. Or Halal Snack Pack lolol
BTN two days in a row?!?! 😩
Is this the one after mibr failed for the 100th time or is it coming up?
Man this show is fucking great
Do they not realize how thick some of the hide of the animals they think Sam can take with a kitchen knife is? He's not even doing damage to half of those unless that's some insanely sharpened knife. A cow might not even be dangerous but good luck killing it under that condition.
I guess this was streamed before the w0xic benching news.
It literally happens live on air.
@@RLewisReports oh wow. I'm just 16 mins in. Excited to see the live reaction. Thanks for the VoD, Richard.
Pokers chips? 😏 1:55:49
Embrace the existential dread
If extremum has so much cash why don't they just buy twistzz????
very nice
1:22:18 LMAO
No way Sam can 1v1 a wild boar, you guys have never seen what they do to the dogs we use to hunt them here.
It feels like CSGO is losing its 'charm', queues are very long nowadays too. Not really much going on in terms of communities. Are we heading towards the end?
People have been saying this since 2016
@@finnrobertson2592 Except now the statistics and numbers support it, before it was just crap, now it's actually true. Not to mention many other titles taking away players. Just look at the new FPS games coming in 2021 and 2022. CSGO is doneso
Maybe this was only temporarily, played 4 games today with max. 2 minutes queuetime for each game with everybody having maxping set to 40.
@@politicalwatchglobal3509 This month has been CS:GO's third best month of all time, with the 1st and 2nd best months both being in 2020. CS:GO is not going anywhere any time soon
@@politicalwatchglobal3509 what are the new FPS multiplayer titles that are coming for CSGO playerbase?
I think in order to call online chess an esport, one would need to call normal chess a sport. Like it is competitive, no doubt, but a sport? I've heard arguments for many sides on this topic. I think it ends up being a matter of definition, and it won't really change cs unless tons of people run around thinking cs is on par with chess somehow, which I very much doubt
I consider competition sport, simply to ignore all the debate about how much effort is required (mental or physical)
@@omEon I sort of get both sides of the argument, and I'm sitting on the fence. I'm not quite sure what to think honestly
People who had to go through 21 ads - TH-cam Premium..once you've tried it you'll never go back + it supports the content providers :)
comment for the lads
When OG gets Issa out of their ass they can pick someone like obo or bntet up and that would be sick
Issa should try to get in team with woxic see if they can get the old Hellraisers time magic
By the numbers more like Bros Tearing Nyholm (apart)
Bro Anders back so soon?
I want to see liazz on a roster able to fill jks' roles, we never got to see his true potential :/ also not sure why kassad is coming back to the exact same roster if he left 100T bc he wanted to make changes
If you want that then extremum is a good place for liazz, Now he can take the star role.
@@JakeGroverHD Not if theyre just gonna bring back jks like they said the rumour was :/
@@Ollie-uo9rj I havent heard that where is that rumor?
@@JakeGroverHD They said it in the episode, I was actually surprised, it was the first I heard of it and didnt expect jks to leave col
@@Ollie-uo9rj Ohhh I wasnt at that point yet, Im down for it in all honesty give them a chance to perform in EU and i could see them middle of the top 10 again
Yes