This guy is very eloquent. He drops in technical details in a way that makes them become alive and relevant instead of just comparing numbers on a paper. He's also concise, not droning on and on about some point that he already made clear. I think I have found a bike reviewer that is as much a true biker as he is a good journalist. Kudos!
Yes, he comes across as nice. But this is all a scripted performance and he shies away from making himself the center of attention. He just recently mentioned that he prefers Harleys in a review for the 2017 Road King, and this would at least fit. But he reviews other bikes too and his way of reviewing it conveyed some genuine appreciation. But still, this is not a true review this is a commercial. I might be the only one who would be fascinated when we compare the bikes going as far as discussing valve timing and compression.
I don't think his riding comments were scripted, though. Much. :P This video is very slick however, edited professionally. Maybe too professionally. That could be why you get the scripted performance vibe. :D About it giving off commercial-vibe due to the gushing about the product's performance, I wouldn't have a clue. Is Revzilla quite impartial with its review (at least, tries to be)?
DanieruShidebuteru I actually like them to some degree. And he points out flaws to the bike, but revzilla is a business and a comercial is most effective when it is not recognized as such. Salesmen are quite good at putting up a show. And such a review is some work, some camera man has to do some work, the footage has to be edited. Concerning scripted versus non scripted... it can be both, they might just agree on what he will talk about and what not. All the videos where he rides also must have some camera in a car or something. You cannot just mount a camera on the bike. He needs a microphone in his helmet to get a flawless speech, you could not record him talking when the wind hits a microphone.
I just did a quick look at their website. I understand now where you're coming from. They weren't trying to pretend as something they are not but I assumed wrongly that this channel was a pure bike review channel. It's actually a bike and riding gear shop. Thanks Sebastian. Still a great attempt at review, though. I have seen partial reviews that don't even attempt at objective review; referring to things like "great riding comfort" or some other nebulous unquantifiable qualities. :D
DanieruShidebuteru You are right. And there is nothing wrong in advertising products. I do like the way he pulls it of myself. But I had people who were on friendly terms with me and I met them years later when they entered salesmanship and suddenly pretended to be greatest friends. This is how I got a little wary and suspicious of such measures. The best ways things sell, is when you do not notice you are being enchanted into buying something. And boy, I love motorycycling and spent the last two years test riding almost everything to make a good choice what to ride. Still I did not buy anything from them. I ride a BMW with a shadt drive, very comfy, but it is a financial trap, when anything goes wrong or you need to replace things, the pricing is hefty! The CAN bus electronics is encrypted and cannot be accessed fully. I respect that BMW does not want its customers to mess with the bikes, but I am in the process of developping an attitude which means, that motorcycles should be affordable and lasting mules, that run forever. Of course such bikes kill the dollar margins of some board room bread tie wearing yuppie, but hell I do not care. You are right about other reviews, they are less of worth since they will not explain anything, and riding comfort is subject to each rider's build. I do not sit well on most cruisers and if I ride to fast the bumps in the road hit right into my spine which aches quickly.
Wow, as of right now, Revzilla has take the crown of most honest motorcycle critique and analysis destination on the web. How did that happen? Good on you guys and great job Lemmy!
This guy gives the most awesome real world, normal guy reviews of anyone I've ever seen. He always seems to have a lot of fun in his motorcycle reviews and he looks and represents what I believe most of us that ride motorcycles look like, normal guys that appreciate any motorcycle no matter how big or small as long as it's riding on two wheels
Wow that's weird. Just yesterday I was looking for a decent review of this bike, couldn't find one. Hours later Revzilla posts it..Revzilla you rock, Lemmy keep making these videos!
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Lemmy you are the man when it comes to these reviews. Keep up the good work. Amazing editing and the way you work in the technical stuff for the laypeople like myself is awesome.
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Outstanding review as always, Lemmy. Informative and honest. I went up to the local dealer on Saturday to see the Octane in person for the first time, and the salesman practically begged me to take it for a test ride. So I did. I walked away with a few of the same quibbles you did; namely, the lackluster front brake. Not alarmingly weak, like the brake on the HD Street 750, but still not up to snuff; even my little CBR500R has a much better front brake than this thing. Still, the style, the comfort, and, most of all, the power are all there. I'm thinking this may be my next motorcycle.
+godwhomismike If you missed our March Deals video, you'll be happy to know that the Iron 883 _is_ our next review. However, a Scout Sixty may be further afield. Stay tuned! -DrewZilla *th-cam.com/video/B_HfOafvqBM/w-d-xo.html
This is the bike that saved Victory Motorcycles. There was talk for a while of discontinuing the brand but then they released the Octaine. Up until that time they had never released anything like it before or since. It was the first true sport cruiser and it's thanks to this bike that you see Victory motorcycles all over. Victory has become a household name that rivals Harley-Davidson. Something no other brand could achieve.
Super impressed with how you guys shoot your reviews! When on the road test, your cutting between the camera car and POV GoPro shots like they're shot together in real-time, but obviously that would be impossible since the camera car is not in the POV shots. I'm amazed, though, as in many of the cuts, you're actually going past the same landmarks in each of the shots, so to the scrutinising viewer, it cuts together puzzlingly well! All I can say is you guys have a solid technique to the way you do things! Nice work!
The reason I wanted an Indian Scout was because it looked so different from all other bikes. Oh well, I guess it was bound to happen. Ford/Lincoln - Chevy/Buick - Chevy/Cadillac - Volkswagen/Audi and so on and so on. Thanks for the review Lemmy, always informational. Sounds like a fun bike.
I too took this bike for multiple test rides. Stock did nothing for me. The bike surged at low RPM in 1st gear with the clutch out. An issue of the throttle by wire setup. Now the stage 1 bike was night and day. No surging. Power in spades. I really like it! 1st accessory purchase would be a deeper seat. Then adjust the front suspension to be a bit stiffer, and give the clutch lever a bit of play. BTW the road Lemmy was on is A1A (Aka Oceanshore Dr) and his run was from Ormond Beach (North side of Daytona) all the way North to almost the Flagler pier. Great ride when the wind is not blowing sand into your face.
So basically this is the kind of performance the Scout should have had to begin with. Also, I stated on your Scout review that the Scout should have had a twin disc set up and if it had one, I dare say you would have had a twin on the Octane too. Another great review anyway Lemmy keep em coming! Cheers,
Same thing I thought when looking at the pictures, needs a dual disc and a bigger rear tire, if not just for putting down power, but for the look. Can't wait till ours gets in so I can spin this whip and conclude for myself.
In your review of the Indian Scout, you mentioned some minor, material problems such as the wobbly turn signals. Did you notice any of these issues on the Victory Octane?
+Timothy Johnson Lemmy found that the turn signals were the same variety but perhaps didn't notice as much wobble. They might still be an issue though. -DrewZilla
Hey Lemmy. I just picked up my Octane. And want to put a more performance oriented tire combo on it. What would you recommend? I spend most of my days. On country roads. But i do still want to take on some road trips as well.
+clint weichal You'd probably want to try the Pirelli Night Dragons. They're about the sportiest cruiser tires we offer. Luckily, they're made in the Octane's sizes! -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/product/pirelli-night-dragon-front-tires (130/70B18) *www.revzilla.com/product/pirelli-night-dragon-rear-tires (160/70B17)
I wish you would've spoken about vibration and comfort. My current bike starts to hurt me above 60mph and after about 45minutes in the saddle. Vibes come through the bars, seat and foot pegs. How is the octane? Can you see out the mirrors?
+Nick Ramirez I'm not sure what bike you ride, but since there's a lot of vibration, I'll venture a guess that your current bike is a V-Twin (e.g. a Harley). V-Twins are inherently vibe-y, and since the Octane is also a V-Twin, it also vibrates a good deal. However, Lemmy felt that it was a bit smoother than other V-Twins but nowhere near as smooth as other engine configurations (inline four or horizontally-opposed engines). As for the mirrors, they vibrated a bit with the bike, but Lemmy was still able to use them effectively. If you really want a smooth bike, consider something like a Gold Wing! -DrewZilla
If you don't mind not having parts support, go for the slightly more powerful Octane. If you want aftermarket parts and dealer support, get the Scout. -DrewZilla
Dragan M no, I injured my back at work and it pinched my sciatic nerve, I'm waiting to get healed and I'll see from there. if I don't get a high ball I'll be getting another victory. I liked the octane also.
Okay Lemmy, exactly what tire brand of radials and sizes would you use on the Octane. I want to make that change but am having a hard times finding a company that has an exact match for what you were suggesting and it's frustrating. Please Help...!
I see this video is old but I've a few other of your bike review videos and I got to say I really like how you review the bikes....you give an honest review/unbiased review which I really dig so there for I subbed and hit the 🔔. 🇺🇸👊😎🇺🇸
Hey Revzilla sorry i have 1 questions. While Polaris have closed the production of a Great bike who VICTORY jester day i have bring me to home a Great Muscle Bike, a VICTORY HAMMER this is a very custom cruiser
So I'm looking to start riding and my price range is around 10k. I want a liquid cooled bike so I was wondering if this would be a decent bike to start with? My other option is the Scout Sixty but I love this one. Is it too much? I'm 6'1 180lbs.
I tend to recommend that people start on a smaller bike, but if you keep the throttle low in the RPM range while learning, the Octane might be ok. I'd still recommend you ride a smaller used bike for a year or so before upgrading to the Octane. The Scout Sixty might be better for you. -DrewZilla
The Octane was my first bike (actually bought it before getting my license) and I loved it. I'm only 5' 130 lbs so I needed something closer to the ground and lighter. Spent a few hours in a parking lot and then ventured out. After 5,500 km I don't smoke my tires but I would recommend getting different tires asap because the stock ones are terrible, I drive modestly and still the back tire slides out. I will be putting new tires on right away. I agree with RevZilla's comment on the front brakes. Never having had a bike before I had nothing to compare it to but my brother and friends are experienced riders and have nothing but rave reviews - they love it. After seeing the guy wheelie it - no way am I lending my Octane to my son!
Ah okay that's awesome. It's the same price as the scout sixty pretty much which is why I considered it but was a bit nervous about it because of the wheelies and wheels and what not. I'm currently still trying to decide which one of the two I get but I'm leaving more toward the octane.
Now that HD sales are going down, Indian should come out with a Scout-S, which would be a re-badged Victory Octane, but with dual front brakes, a better stock exhaust, and a decent seat and suspension. I would buy it.
+poplar Lemmy found it to be a step up in features from previous Simpson Helmets, but it was just a bit too round for Lemmy's intermediate oval head shape. -DrewZilla
Thanks, this and/or Indian scout/scout sixty is my dream bike. I still need to take my MSF course but I'm looking at an older Triumph or Moto Guzzi to begin with.
This exceeds the performance of a 650 twin with 104 horsepower and 76 ft-lbs. of torque. For comparison, the MT-07 or SV650 make about 70-75 horsepower and 45-50 ft-lbs. of torque. Granted, those 650 twins weigh about 400-430 lbs., while the Octane weighs at least 530 lbs. You could get away with this as a second bike. -DrewZilla
+Rusty Shackleford ABS is standard on the Octane in other markets (e.g. Europe, Australia, and New Zealand), but they may perceive low demand for ABS in the US and Canada. -DrewZilla
Great review and reliable as always! Having that said, I was looking forward to learn about some smaller details like the vibration and position of mirrors and turn lights highlighted on the Scout video. Any thoughts on that?!
Gotta say, I'm a fan of this bike. It reminds me of the AMX, sitting in between muscle and sport and refusing to choose. Also, the price makes it easy afford, and tune.
Now that victory is out of business I think you'll find Octane bargains.Still a great bike.My local CL has one with 900miles asking 8500 which I think its sweet deal considering Scout is over 10 close to 11k
did you feel a lot more heat coming off the engine Like ur leg area. I ask because someone else is with you saying there's a lot of heat coming off that was uncomfortable thanks in advance
I plan on getting a Victory Octane next spring for my first bike. Think this would be a good option for a first time street bike owner? I figured it has speed to grow into vs other bikes in this price range. Also your bike reviews have been amazing compared to everything else I've seen on TH-cam. I can't wait for the full review on this bike.
If you have a lot of experience riding off-road, then the Octane could be a good first street bike. If you've never ridden at all, I'd recommend starting on a smaller, used bike for a year or so. -DrewZilla
Well we have a _How to Ride_ video. That might help a bit. We also have reviews of the Honda Rebel, a great beginner bike. -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/common-tread/how-to-ride-a-motorcycle-a-dont-crash-course *www.revzilla.com/common-tread/2017-Honda-rebel-500-Rebel-300-first-ride-motorcycle-review *www.revzilla.com/common-tread/starting-a-rebellion-big-men-small-bikes-with-the-honda-rebel-from-then-to-now
The Octane is approachable, but it also has a lot of power for a beginner. If you find a really good deal on one, then it could be a good choice. -DrewZilla
+Jim Hoover Because Lemmy is just that special! Also, RevZilla sells Simpson helmets, and so we had a couple from Simpson for our product review video. They should start shipping in just a couple weeks (mid-April). -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/simpson-ghost-bandit-helmet
They're bikes in two different classes. Both are liquid-cooled, but the Vulcan S has a smaller 649cc engine compared to the Octane's 1179cc engine. What we'd own depends on what we're looking for. They're both good bikes for their classes. For a newer rider, I'd suggest the Vulcan S. For a more experienced rider, the Octane might be better. -DrewZilla
Nice review as always. I went and looked at one of these bikes the other week but it is too much like a Scout and the forward controls are a deal breaker for me, if only Victory had brought the Project 159 to market.....
great review. more in depth with the differences of this and the scout. Although I am willing to bet next year scout sport will be released to one up this. Great for the aftermarket on both bikes for sure. This has the power and the scout has the style. One is a timeless design while the other will show age quickly I fear.
Lemmy, you said it's geared differently than a scout. I don't follow, they are separate bikes made by different manufacturers, how would they be geared the same way? PS great review
+RevZilla the scout & octane are painfully similar. As good as the engine & transmission is , do you wish they really didnt play such a safe game & really gone to school with this and made something radically different.
This mtorcycle would be exactly what I would want if they put 18" wheels front and rear and a cafe looking frame with rear shocks to match and I would be out the door to buy one today.
Victory and Indian makes some goregous bikes! My 2nd bike will b a Suzuki Boulevard M109R Boss. Would b nice to see more reviews on those. 3rd bike will be either Victory Magnum or Indian Dark Horse
Dom Roach ride them both. I did and the Victory is no match for the Indian but try them yourself and then decide. Vic is less cash but it's also less bike. Indian or Harley which is priced similar to the Indian. try all 3 then decide what's best for you. good luck.
at9670 the Indian is priced well and quality is similar to the Harley Davidson. Victory is not in the same class but that's why the Victory is less expensive. Ride all 3 and compare, it's the only way to decide, it's what I did back in 2011 and I chose the HD. good luck.
I am also a Lemmy fan. I'm loving al the motorcycle reviews he does. He just is such a wealth of information that seems to make motorcycling fun without boring us with technical knowledge between competing motorcycles, like piston bore, and cam angles and such. I'm definately looking at a bike sometime in the summer, and was wondering if you have ever done the Star Stryker, the Suzuki M50 and M109 Boulevard? Another thing, I was wondering about Lemmy's helmet, and microphone setup, as it sounds very good. I was going to look into doing vlogs and hoped for some equipment names ya are using. Keep the videos coming and keep Lemmy doing the reviews. His best review was for the Harley V-Rod IMHO. Cheers, < Kimonoskunk
+Kimono Skunk We have not yet reviewed the Yamaha and Suzuki cruisers, but we may do so in the future. As for the audio, we use a Sena 20S paired via Bluetooth to the Sena GP10 Bluetooth Audio Back for GoPro, which in turn is attached to a GoPro Hero4 Black or Silver. Hope this helps! -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/sena-20s-bluetooth-headset *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/sena-bluetooth-audio-back-for-gopro-with-waterproof-housing *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/gopro-hero4-black-camera *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/gopro-hero4-silver-camera
Geat review but the soft front end and brakes aren't a negative. This is obviously the base model with a really incredible price. That's the whole point. There will undoubtedly be higher performance models to follow.
+RevZilla Ok thanks. I'm thinking we'll get an even higher performance version than we would have otherwise gotten next with Victory realising they over hyped it. But it's still an incredible bike at this price point I think. Looking forward to your Springfield video!
that seat made my butt numb for a hour.other than that it was a nice bike.I agree with your review completely,needs a dual disc and a better seat.and the test bikes were mostly not stock with victory accessories.
+TEXASAMERICANBULLIES We haven't drag raced them against each other, and I'm not sure anyone else has yet either, so we don't have a definitive answer. EDIT: However, Lemmy is pretty sure the 1250cc V-Rod would be about a second faster than the Octane in the 1/4 mile. -DrewZilla
+RevZilla hey can you make a comparison video on the octane and the night rod I don't know what bike to get and I was hoping a video comparing them would help me decide
The bike is awesome but Lemmy is awesomer!
+the8jrfan Lol I watched it just for him, i dont even like cruisers
+TheHappyRider I know right!?
+the8jrfan Education is important, but cold beer is importanter :D
the8jrjan - "awesomer" seriously?
*more awesomer
This guy is very eloquent. He drops in technical details in a way that makes them become alive and relevant instead of just comparing numbers on a paper. He's also concise, not droning on and on about some point that he already made clear. I think I have found a bike reviewer that is as much a true biker as he is a good journalist. Kudos!
Yes, he comes across as nice. But this is all a scripted performance and he shies away from making himself the center of attention. He just recently mentioned that he prefers Harleys in a review for the 2017 Road King, and this would at least fit. But he reviews other bikes too and his way of reviewing it conveyed some genuine appreciation. But still, this is not a true review this is a commercial.
I might be the only one who would be fascinated when we compare the bikes going as far as discussing valve timing and compression.
I don't think his riding comments were scripted, though. Much. :P This video is very slick however, edited professionally. Maybe too professionally. That could be why you get the scripted performance vibe. :D
About it giving off commercial-vibe due to the gushing about the product's performance, I wouldn't have a clue. Is Revzilla quite impartial with its review (at least, tries to be)?
DanieruShidebuteru
I actually like them to some degree. And he points out flaws to the bike, but revzilla is a business and a comercial is most effective when it is not recognized as such.
Salesmen are quite good at putting up a show. And such a review is some work, some camera man has to do some work, the footage has to be edited.
Concerning scripted versus non scripted... it can be both, they might just agree on what he will talk about and what not.
All the videos where he rides also must have some camera in a car or something.
You cannot just mount a camera on the bike.
He needs a microphone in his helmet to get a flawless speech, you could not record him talking when the wind hits a microphone.
I just did a quick look at their website. I understand now where you're coming from. They weren't trying to pretend as something they are not but I assumed wrongly that this channel was a pure bike review channel. It's actually a bike and riding gear shop. Thanks Sebastian.
Still a great attempt at review, though. I have seen partial reviews that don't even attempt at objective review; referring to things like "great riding comfort" or some other nebulous unquantifiable qualities. :D
DanieruShidebuteru
You are right. And there is nothing wrong in advertising products. I do like the way he pulls it of myself.
But I had people who were on friendly terms with me and I met them years later when they entered salesmanship and suddenly pretended to be greatest friends.
This is how I got a little wary and suspicious of such measures.
The best ways things sell, is when you do not notice you are being enchanted into buying something.
And boy, I love motorycycling and spent the last two years test riding almost everything to make a good choice what to ride. Still I did not buy anything from them.
I ride a BMW with a shadt drive, very comfy, but it is a financial trap, when anything goes wrong or you need to replace things, the pricing is hefty!
The CAN bus electronics is encrypted and cannot be accessed fully.
I respect that BMW does not want its customers to mess with the bikes, but I am in the process of developping an attitude which means, that motorcycles should be affordable and lasting mules, that run forever. Of course such bikes kill the dollar margins of some board room bread tie wearing yuppie, but hell I do not care.
You are right about other reviews, they are less of worth since they will not explain anything, and riding comfort is subject to each rider's build. I do not sit well on most cruisers and if I ride to fast the bumps in the road hit right into my spine which aches quickly.
Wow, as of right now, Revzilla has take the crown of most honest motorcycle critique and analysis destination on the web. How did that happen? Good on you guys and great job Lemmy!
Groagun fortnine took the gold
This guy gives the most awesome real world, normal guy reviews of anyone I've ever seen. He always seems to have a lot of fun in his motorcycle reviews and he looks and represents what I believe most of us that ride motorcycles look like, normal guys that appreciate any motorcycle no matter how big or small as long as it's riding on two wheels
Wow that's weird. Just yesterday I was looking for a decent review of this bike, couldn't find one. Hours later Revzilla posts it..Revzilla you rock, Lemmy keep making these videos!
+Salad Tongs Hey i'm starting up a TH-cam motovlogging channel and i'm wondering if you could go check out my content and give me ideas on how I could make it better and if you like it, subscribe, I will subscribe back, thanks!
Lemmy is the go-to guy for a no-BS review. The mainstream motorcycle media has sold out. Thanks RevZilla and thanks Lemmy!
dam - even years later this guy is the BEST reviewer out here - bar none!
Lemmy you are the man when it comes to these reviews. Keep up the good work. Amazing editing and the way you work in the technical stuff for the laypeople like myself is awesome.
The best reviews hands down. Don't stop.
+jeremypenuta Hey i'm starting up a TH-cam motovlogging channel and i'm wondering if you could go check out my content and give me ideas on how I could make it better and if you like it, subscribe, I will subscribe back, thanks!
Outstanding review as always, Lemmy. Informative and honest. I went up to the local dealer on Saturday to see the Octane in person for the first time, and the salesman practically begged me to take it for a test ride. So I did. I walked away with a few of the same quibbles you did; namely, the lackluster front brake. Not alarmingly weak, like the brake on the HD Street 750, but still not up to snuff; even my little CBR500R has a much better front brake than this thing.
Still, the style, the comfort, and, most of all, the power are all there. I'm thinking this may be my next motorcycle.
More motorcycle reviews. Loving how thorough you guys are on the motorcycle reviews. Iron 883 and Scout Sixty next please.
+godwhomismike If you missed our March Deals video, you'll be happy to know that the Iron 883 _is_ our next review. However, a Scout Sixty may be further afield. Stay tuned! -DrewZilla
*th-cam.com/video/B_HfOafvqBM/w-d-xo.html
Really sucks that Victory is now a Dead Brand.
George Hill I think they should bring it back as a one make model.
Put it in Indian dealers
Make it there muscle bikes
@@josephandreuccetti8043 I agree, they should have kept it as a performance end of things
This is the bike that saved Victory Motorcycles. There was talk for a while of discontinuing the brand but then they released the Octaine. Up until that time they had never released anything like it before or since. It was the first true sport cruiser and it's thanks to this bike that you see Victory motorcycles all over. Victory has become a household name that rivals Harley-Davidson. Something no other brand could achieve.
I can't believe these reviews don't have more likes. They are so well put together
Still waiting for the XSR900 review...
You guys are the Top Gear of Motorcycles!
No, RevZilla reviews bike like Fifth Gear not like Top Gear. Their reviews are more of a serious type.
Sometimes I just watch the videos to see Lemmy, he seems like a very approachable guy.
+Mal Reynolds Keep your negativity to yourself...
Rode this at a local demo day and I really liked it for all the reasons mentioned. I moved this up on my list of bikes to put in my garage!
Super impressed with how you guys shoot your reviews! When on the road test, your cutting between the camera car and POV GoPro shots like they're shot together in real-time, but obviously that would be impossible since the camera car is not in the POV shots. I'm amazed, though, as in many of the cuts, you're actually going past the same landmarks in each of the shots, so to the scrutinising viewer, it cuts together puzzlingly well! All I can say is you guys have a solid technique to the way you do things! Nice work!
Lemmy's a fuckin boss
daaaaaaamn Lemmy back at it again with a nice review!!!
damn Lemmy
+iCharlyoseayo Now we just have to find him a Stüssy shirt! -DrewZilla
+RevZilla lol
Great review! Not too long, packed with information and Lemmy's a great presenter.
Good job there Lemmy. Another fine, professionally done video. Keep up the great work!
The reason I wanted an Indian Scout was because it looked so different from all other bikes. Oh well, I guess it was bound to happen. Ford/Lincoln - Chevy/Buick - Chevy/Cadillac - Volkswagen/Audi and so on and so on. Thanks for the review Lemmy, always informational. Sounds like a fun bike.
I too took this bike for multiple test rides. Stock did nothing for me. The bike surged at low RPM in 1st gear with the clutch out. An issue of the throttle by wire setup.
Now the stage 1 bike was night and day. No surging. Power in spades. I really like it!
1st accessory purchase would be a deeper seat. Then adjust the front suspension to be a bit stiffer, and give the clutch lever a bit of play.
BTW the road Lemmy was on is A1A (Aka Oceanshore Dr) and his run was from Ormond Beach (North side of Daytona) all the way North to almost the Flagler pier. Great ride when the wind is not blowing sand into your face.
Another great review. Best bike reviews on the net keep it coming.
I test rode one this weekend and left with the biggest smile on my face. that was a fun bike!
This guy does the best damned MC reviews... hands down!
Lemmy knows how a motorcycle review is done.
Revzilla I think the people want more videos like this with Lemmy reviewing these motorcycles! Maybe make his own side show of motorcycle reviews?
So basically this is the kind of performance the Scout should have had to begin with.
Also, I stated on your Scout review that the Scout should have had a twin disc set up and if it had one, I dare say you would have had a twin on the Octane too.
Another great review anyway Lemmy keep em coming!
Cheers,
It's weird seeing a Victory without that freedom V-Twin
This is the only bike Victory made that I would go out of my way to overlook my favorite brands and buy the somnabitch!
Same thing I thought when looking at the pictures, needs a dual disc and a bigger rear tire, if not just for putting down power, but for the look. Can't wait till ours gets in so I can spin this whip and conclude for myself.
Huge rear tires are out. Actually hurts the handling and looks ridiculous.
In your review of the Indian Scout, you mentioned some minor, material problems such as the wobbly turn signals. Did you notice any of these issues on the Victory Octane?
+Timothy Johnson Lemmy found that the turn signals were the same variety but perhaps didn't notice as much wobble. They might still be an issue though. -DrewZilla
Lemmy is the best reviewer!!
Hey Lemmy. I just picked up my Octane. And want to put a more performance oriented tire combo on it. What would you recommend? I spend most of my days. On country roads. But i do still want to take on some road trips as well.
+clint weichal You'd probably want to try the Pirelli Night Dragons. They're about the sportiest cruiser tires we offer. Luckily, they're made in the Octane's sizes! -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/product/pirelli-night-dragon-front-tires (130/70B18)
*www.revzilla.com/product/pirelli-night-dragon-rear-tires (160/70B17)
I wish you would've spoken about vibration and comfort. My current bike starts to hurt me above 60mph and after about 45minutes in the saddle. Vibes come through the bars, seat and foot pegs. How is the octane? Can you see out the mirrors?
+Nick Ramirez I'm not sure what bike you ride, but since there's a lot of vibration, I'll venture a guess that your current bike is a V-Twin (e.g. a Harley). V-Twins are inherently vibe-y, and since the Octane is also a V-Twin, it also vibrates a good deal. However, Lemmy felt that it was a bit smoother than other V-Twins but nowhere near as smooth as other engine configurations (inline four or horizontally-opposed engines). As for the mirrors, they vibrated a bit with the bike, but Lemmy was still able to use them effectively. If you really want a smooth bike, consider something like a Gold Wing! -DrewZilla
At 1:36 guy at front got backpack, any one know model or brand ?
How does one do a wheelie on a sportster/ cruiser? So awesome!
One simply clutches it up. -DrewZilla
Street brother Lenny- if you had to make a choice would you buy the scout or the octane?
If you don't mind not having parts support, go for the slightly more powerful Octane. If you want aftermarket parts and dealer support, get the Scout. -DrewZilla
Please tell me is it worth buying this motorcycle ???
Great review guys.. Thanks for stepping up when Moto USA dropped off. Keep the reviews coming!
I sat on this bike today at the dealer. I've got to say, the fit and finish is amazing in these things. I might end up with a high ball though.
Curtis Shondel hey Curtis did you get the Highball, it's an awesome bike.
Dragan M no, I injured my back at work and it pinched my sciatic nerve, I'm waiting to get healed and I'll see from there. if I don't get a high ball I'll be getting another victory. I liked the octane also.
Curtis Shondel enjoy whatever one you get, both nice bikes,get better soon and ride safe.
A really nice and well balanced review. It highlights the compromises and the pluses really well.
Okay Lemmy, exactly what tire brand of radials and sizes would you use on the Octane. I want to make that change but am having a hard times finding a company that has an exact match for what you were suggesting and it's frustrating. Please Help...!
I see this video is old but I've a few other of your bike review videos and I got to say I really like how you review the bikes....you give an honest review/unbiased review which I really dig so there for I subbed and hit the 🔔. 🇺🇸👊😎🇺🇸
Hey Revzilla sorry i have 1 questions. While Polaris have closed the production of a Great bike who VICTORY jester day i have bring me to home a Great Muscle Bike, a VICTORY HAMMER this is a very custom cruiser
Can we expect to see a review on the Victory magnum's or Cross country?
+Emmitt Williams We probably won't be reviewing them anytime soon, but we may do so in the future. -DrewZilla
So I'm looking to start riding and my price range is around 10k. I want a liquid cooled bike so I was wondering if this would be a decent bike to start with? My other option is the Scout Sixty but I love this one. Is it too much? I'm 6'1 180lbs.
I tend to recommend that people start on a smaller bike, but if you keep the throttle low in the RPM range while learning, the Octane might be ok. I'd still recommend you ride a smaller used bike for a year or so before upgrading to the Octane. The Scout Sixty might be better for you. -DrewZilla
The Octane was my first bike (actually bought it before getting my license) and I loved it. I'm only 5' 130 lbs so I needed something closer to the ground and lighter. Spent a few hours in a parking lot and then ventured out. After 5,500 km I don't smoke my tires but I would recommend getting different tires asap because the stock ones are terrible, I drive modestly and still the back tire slides out. I will be putting new tires on right away. I agree with RevZilla's comment on the front brakes. Never having had a bike before I had nothing to compare it to but my brother and friends are experienced riders and have nothing but rave reviews - they love it. After seeing the guy wheelie it - no way am I lending my Octane to my son!
Ah okay that's awesome. It's the same price as the scout sixty pretty much which is why I considered it but was a bit nervous about it because of the wheelies and wheels and what not. I'm currently still trying to decide which one of the two I get but I'm leaving more toward the octane.
Now that HD sales are going down, Indian should come out with a Scout-S, which would be a re-badged Victory Octane, but with dual front brakes, a better stock exhaust, and a decent seat and suspension. I would buy it.
I hear it's cheaper than the comp. but do we have a MSRP yet?
+SoundgardenMan $10,499 is the starting price, from Victory's website.
+Edisson Ortega thanks man. sounds decent.
+Edisson Ortega that's a Damn good price.
"Florida,as it turns out has some pretty straight roads." My life in a sentence. But there is a lot of great scenery in the back roads. Plus #nosnow
Is this a good pick for a 6 feet tall guy (183cm)???
Thank you.
Lemmy's thoughts on the ghost bandit during this test ride?
+poplar Lemmy found it to be a step up in features from previous Simpson Helmets, but it was just a bit too round for Lemmy's intermediate oval head shape. -DrewZilla
Lemmy, In Florida LE can ticket you for not having glasses on with your visor up. Just a word of caution. Keep up the great reviews!
Excellent review Lemmy love the videos man keep up the good work!
This review convinced me I want this after my Vulcan S, but the problem is finding one....
Would you recommend putting dual brakes on the front?
Though Lemmy might have wanted dual front disc brakes, there's no easy accommodation to install dual brakes. -DrewZilla
Thanks, this and/or Indian scout/scout sixty is my dream bike. I still need to take my MSF course but I'm looking at an older Triumph or Moto Guzzi to begin with.
Now I want one instead of the Indian Scout!! OR should I get the Scout?!?! Any thoughts. Anyone.
Please get your hands on an XDiavel. By far my most anticipated "cruiser" of 2016.
+John Murphy I'm sure Lemmy would love to swing a leg over the XDiavel! -DrewZilla
+RevZilla I'd love to see it! I'm picking mine up early April and I have a shopping cart full of gear on Revzilla to order when the date gets closer!
Lemmy, Vato, you rock!!
I'd like to hear Lemmy's opinion on the 2016 Vulcan 900 Custom.
Does the Octane feel any larger than that Scout? What I don't like about the Scout is that it feels so tiny and I'm only 5'11''.
+Tom McDonough They have very similar dimensions, so they do feel about the same. -DrewZilla
Great job Lemmy. Too bad that Victory didn't give you a standard stock bike to test.
Been looking at this as my possible second bike, looking for cruiser-ish with 650 sportbike class performance...does this bike fit that mold?
This exceeds the performance of a 650 twin with 104 horsepower and 76 ft-lbs. of torque. For comparison, the MT-07 or SV650 make about 70-75 horsepower and 45-50 ft-lbs. of torque. Granted, those 650 twins weigh about 400-430 lbs., while the Octane weighs at least 530 lbs. You could get away with this as a second bike. -DrewZilla
I own a vegas and I am thinking about trading for a scout. You think thats a bad idea? I go on weekend rides with my friends typically.
It could be good, it could be bad. You'll have to go test ride a Scout to see how it works for you. -DrewZilla
The victory scout or the Indian octane?
scout octane is better.
I wonder if Victory would consider adding an ABS option to the Octane? As a company, they don't seem all that friendly to the idea.
+Rusty Shackleford ABS is standard on the Octane in other markets (e.g. Europe, Australia, and New Zealand), but they may perceive low demand for ABS in the US and Canada. -DrewZilla
Are you guys going to be here in daytona for the whole week ?
+merc207 No, Lemmy was just there for a few days. We keep him pretty busy! -DrewZilla
hahahha, I bet... Keep on ridin'..
Great review and reliable as always!
Having that said, I was looking forward to learn about some smaller details like the vibration and position of mirrors and turn lights highlighted on the Scout video. Any thoughts on that?!
+Kamyar.J PSYXX They have the same style mirrors and turn lights as the Scout, so that's potentially still an issue. -DrewZilla
Gotta say, I'm a fan of this bike. It reminds me of the AMX, sitting in between muscle and sport and refusing to choose. Also, the price makes it easy afford, and tune.
Now that victory is out of business I think you'll find Octane bargains.Still a great bike.My local CL has one with 900miles asking 8500 which I think its sweet deal considering Scout is over 10 close to 11k
Would you guys recommend that Bike for longer tours, like 3 hours + ? Or is it rather unconfortable?
You might need a custom seat and perhaps a larger windshield for longer touring. -DrewZilla
The Info about the Seat is exactly what I needed here, thanks. :)
What's the song at the start of this video?
We don't have the song title at hand, but we get all our music from premiumbeat.com. -DrewZilla
did you feel a lot more heat coming off the engine Like ur leg area. I ask because someone else is with you saying there's a lot of heat coming off that was uncomfortable thanks in advance
Lemmy did not notice any undue heat coming off the engine. -DrewZilla
RevZilla is it possible to modify the front tire to a dual disc system? I'd prefer a stronger stop on it
RevZilla also I heard victory will be shutting down, would buying a bike from them be smart if they won't have any future part support?
Well Polaris says they'll provide parts for ten years, so if you can get a really good deal, it might be worth it. -DrewZilla
May I ask for a track list for the background music?
+Máté Frank All of the music can be found at premiumbeat.com
+Dustin Carpio Wow, thanks!
I plan on getting a Victory Octane next spring for my first bike. Think this would be a good option for a first time street bike owner? I figured it has speed to grow into vs other bikes in this price range. Also your bike reviews have been amazing compared to everything else I've seen on TH-cam. I can't wait for the full review on this bike.
If you have a lot of experience riding off-road, then the Octane could be a good first street bike. If you've never ridden at all, I'd recommend starting on a smaller, used bike for a year or so. -DrewZilla
+RevZilla 100% start used for first Street bike.
This was awesome. Do you have any reviews for first time people?
Well we have a _How to Ride_ video. That might help a bit. We also have reviews of the Honda Rebel, a great beginner bike. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/common-tread/how-to-ride-a-motorcycle-a-dont-crash-course
*www.revzilla.com/common-tread/2017-Honda-rebel-500-Rebel-300-first-ride-motorcycle-review
*www.revzilla.com/common-tread/starting-a-rebellion-big-men-small-bikes-with-the-honda-rebel-from-then-to-now
Thank you that video helped so much. Do you think it would be wise to start with the octane?
The Octane is approachable, but it also has a lot of power for a beginner. If you find a really good deal on one, then it could be a good choice. -DrewZilla
How did you get a Ghost Bandit helmet already!
+Jim Hoover Because Lemmy is just that special! Also, RevZilla sells Simpson helmets, and so we had a couple from Simpson for our product review video. They should start shipping in just a couple weeks (mid-April). -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/simpson-ghost-bandit-helmet
I'm so close to pulling the trigger on one of these.
if you could own this or a Vulcan s which would you choose?
They're bikes in two different classes. Both are liquid-cooled, but the Vulcan S has a smaller 649cc engine compared to the Octane's 1179cc engine. What we'd own depends on what we're looking for. They're both good bikes for their classes. For a newer rider, I'd suggest the Vulcan S. For a more experienced rider, the Octane might be better. -DrewZilla
Nice review as always. I went and looked at one of these bikes the other week but it is too much like a Scout and the forward controls are a deal breaker for me, if only Victory had brought the Project 159 to market.....
Parts a problem? Found a '17 w/ 4500 miles for $7500.
@revzilla can you make a review of the triumph street twin?? thanks!!!
+gev0108 It's definitely one to consider! -DrewZilla
great review. more in depth with the differences of this and the scout. Although I am willing to bet next year scout sport will be released to one up this. Great for the aftermarket on both bikes for sure. This has the power and the scout has the style. One is a timeless design while the other will show age quickly I fear.
Lemmy, you said it's geared differently than a scout. I don't follow, they are separate bikes made by different manufacturers, how would they be geared the same way? PS great review
Indian and Victory are sister brands. Both are part of parent company Polaris. The Scout and Octane do share some components. -DrewZilla
+RevZilla wow. Learn something new everyday. Thanks!
+RevZilla the scout & octane are painfully similar. As good as the engine & transmission is , do you wish they really didnt play such a safe game & really gone to school with this and made something radically different.
That is my complaint about the Octane. It just looks too generic. They really missed an opportunity to set themselves apart from the average cruiser.
those are progressive shocks that are adjustable
I take this over a Harley ANY time
Sike
This mtorcycle would be exactly what I would want if they put 18" wheels front and rear and a cafe looking frame with rear shocks to match and I would be out the door to buy one today.
Victory and Indian makes some goregous bikes! My 2nd bike will b a Suzuki Boulevard M109R Boss. Would b nice to see more reviews on those. 3rd bike will be either Victory Magnum or Indian Dark Horse
Dom Roach ride them both. I did and the Victory is no match for the Indian but try them yourself and then decide. Vic is less cash but it's also less bike. Indian or Harley which is priced similar to the Indian. try all 3 then decide what's best for you. good luck.
Dragan M the Indian looks sooo much bike for the money, the victory would be more than enough
at9670 the Indian is priced well and quality is similar to the Harley Davidson. Victory is not in the same class but that's why the Victory is less expensive. Ride all 3 and compare, it's the only way to decide, it's what I did back in 2011 and I chose the HD. good luck.
I am also a Lemmy fan. I'm loving al the motorcycle reviews he does. He just is such a wealth of information that seems to make motorcycling fun without boring us with technical knowledge between competing motorcycles, like piston bore, and cam angles and such.
I'm definately looking at a bike sometime in the summer, and was wondering if you have ever done the Star Stryker, the Suzuki M50 and M109 Boulevard?
Another thing, I was wondering about Lemmy's helmet, and microphone setup, as it sounds very good. I was going to look into doing vlogs and hoped for some equipment names ya are using.
Keep the videos coming and keep Lemmy doing the reviews. His best review was for the Harley V-Rod IMHO.
Cheers, <
Kimonoskunk
+Kimono Skunk We have not yet reviewed the Yamaha and Suzuki cruisers, but we may do so in the future. As for the audio, we use a Sena 20S paired via Bluetooth to the Sena GP10 Bluetooth Audio Back for GoPro, which in turn is attached to a GoPro Hero4 Black or Silver. Hope this helps! -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/sena-20s-bluetooth-headset
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/sena-bluetooth-audio-back-for-gopro-with-waterproof-housing
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/gopro-hero4-black-camera
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/gopro-hero4-silver-camera
which is better: victory octane, or indian scout?
The Octane makes a little more power, but there's less support for Victory going forward. -DrewZilla
RevZilla is victory really shutting down??
Yes. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/common-tread/polaris-shuts-down-the-victory-brand
*www.revzilla.com/common-tread/indians-victory
Another great review Lemmy, thanks again...jj
So Lemmy, Muscle or Octane? What's more fun?
Chris Kmiec I rode both and definitely the Muscle plus a lot quicker than the Octane and more comfortable too.
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If you had to choose between the Scout Sixty and this bike, which would you pick?
If you're a new rider, definitely go for the Scout Sixty. -DrewZilla
Geat review but the soft front end and brakes aren't a negative. This is obviously the base model with a really incredible price. That's the whole point. There will undoubtedly be higher performance models to follow.
+Danny B Let's hope so...though to be clear, this was a base model with upgraded exhaust and rear suspension. -DrewZilla
+RevZilla Ok thanks. I'm thinking we'll get an even higher performance version than we would have otherwise gotten next with Victory realising they over hyped it. But it's still an incredible bike at this price point I think. Looking forward to your Springfield video!
+Danny B Indian Springfield review video that is.
Great review, Lemmy!
Looking forward to the full review
that seat made my butt numb for a hour.other than that it was a nice bike.I agree with your review completely,needs a dual disc and a better seat.and the test bikes were mostly not stock with victory accessories.
In a straight line race which faster octane or vrod ?
+TEXASAMERICANBULLIES We haven't drag raced them against each other, and I'm not sure anyone else has yet either, so we don't have a definitive answer. EDIT: However, Lemmy is pretty sure the 1250cc V-Rod would be about a second faster than the Octane in the 1/4 mile. -DrewZilla
+RevZilla interesing. After some maths both in stock form and wet the octane has slightly better power to weight ratio
+RevZilla hey can you make a comparison video on the octane and the night rod I don't know what bike to get and I was hoping a video comparing them would help me decide