You know..... I love that you showed the mistakes, and reacted as if it’s part of the process and learning experience. This is an amazing video of this swap
Awesome build video One of the best update video on 2.5 swap Thanks for sharing your build it will hello guys like myself and others who is looking to do this 🙏 🙏
Did the same thing with a POS ring compressor....I ended up borrowing a tapered ring compressor from my mechanic friend. I hate those cheap ring compressors. I'm enjoying your detailed video, thx
@@bigboostmcgee4211 just curious would you happen to know what compression ratio is now with 2.3 head and 2.5 bottom end with the rod /piston combination... That's a good build for the future equipped with a good flowing exhaust manifold and decently sized turbo...🤣🤣🤣😂
It had 121000ish on it and I beat on it for a good 60000. I believe the pcv went bad introducing boost into the crank case and pushed a lot of oil out and starved cylinder 3 of oil. Gives me a chance to see what this 2.5 can do
Awesome work! Looks like it pulls pretty quick. I'm assuming the little stroke helps it get into boost a bit faster? Definitely interested in seeing and hearing your thoughts between the factory setup and the swap. Real life felt torque, reliability, what would you do differently... that sort of thing. Awesome job again!
So smooth calm understanding! Thanks man my 2.3 knocked a rod so I’m thinking of doing the 2.5 swap, any advice on how to get the complete knowledge on how the swap works? It seems you covered a lot of it
I watched other videos before doing it and tried to show/add anything I thought would help. I'd wish I would have left the stock rods just to see what they'd take, it would have took lest time and would have been real budget build
@D.Ghost92 it held up great, but it currently has a hole in the oil pan and my oil filter housing broke off when I hit some debris on the highway. It was running great on the gt3582. It's not my daily so it's going to be down for just a little
How do you like the swap? Yea my traction control and steering wheel light are on because I have the steering wheel angle sensor unplugged. The abs light is on because I installed the wheel bearing wrong and haven't replaced it.
You mentioned using a 2012 year motor. I was wondering what years of the Ford Duratec engines are compatible with the 2.3; they seem to have something different in the lineage between 2009 to 2012 and 2013 to 2016 and then up. Are all years of Ford's 2.5 essentially the same or compatible?
Modern day metals and oils are much different. On all of my race builds I’ve used 5w30 as break in. No need for a “special break in” just replace after idling for a bit, then again after a few days or week of driving
Okay. So I’m just really planting my feet into the mazdaspeed world. What’s the benefit of this. Stronger bottom end ? And whats the benefit of doing the ms3 head on the 2.5 block. Is it basically the same concept as the Honda k20/k24 hybrid motors ? Better compression and better overall platform to build off of ?
The benefit for me was the cost, I honestly don't know anyone who has pushed this setup so I'm not sure what it can handle. The 2.3 crank is forged and the 2.5 is not so there is the weak point if you're going to push it that far. I'm planning to have high 400 whp and want to be able to run it hard everyday. I did gain a noticeable amount of tourqe that makes it hard to keep traction. If you can afford the time and money to build the 2.3, I would, but if you are in a crunch and just want to rip it again the duratec/mzr 2.5 is the way to go
Well the 2.5 block doesn't have the flange for the oil return, that's why you have to make a new one. As for the rods, if I would have pulled the 2.5 apart first I probably wouldn't have done the rods. I bought them knowing that the stock mazdaspeed rods are the week point and I want to push 500-600 whp daily.
@@bigboostmcgee4211 on the block of the 2.5 in a similar position to the 2.3 there is a large casting of aluminium, has any body tried to drill that out and tap in a connector for return line , apparently the stock rods in a 2.5 will do 450hp , there supposed to be sintered forged whatever that means , will you be rebalancing your crank to suit the new rod and piston combo .
I was on a time restraint since this is my daily and it unexpectedly spun the rod bearing and all the machine shops had over a month wait, so that's why I didn't have things balanced or even the head decked. If I wasn't in such a hurry to get it done I definitely would have done more but I just needed a running car
Hey man, thanks for your video, I broke my exhaust camshaft grove exactly like you did, but I did not order new cam and I am running the car as it is. Is it okay? What made you change it tho
Nice video but I have a question, since the Mazda Speed is Direct Injection the piston crowns are shaped accordingly to facilitate the injectors spraying directly onto them while the 2.5 pistons don’t have that, they’re designed for regular Port Injection, so I’m wondering how those pistons handle Direct Injection?
Honestly it was a build I had to make happen as fast as I could so I did no machine work or measuring. Just slapped it together and sent it. I'd probably do it differently if I had more time and it wasn't my daily just for peace of mind but it runs great and strong at 26psi on gt3582
Thoughts on putting a VT supercharger on a 2.5 gen2? Seen one guy do it on TH-cam and honestly thinking about doing it myself. Just wish there was more documentation on this.
Supposedly there a groups online that talk about it and have done it, but I’m struggling to find them. New to this type of thing, but I want a project like this
You’ll need speed axles and linkage iirc. I originally planned to turbo my 2.5 and swap a speed trans in, but I was able to buy a dead speed for 1500 so now in considering the 2.5 or 2.3. One is easier. One is cheaper 🤷🏻♀️
I did bend it slightly, probably went from 45° to about 55-60° and now I have a good inch from the axel, It didn't touch but I was nervous too. Good luck 👍
Can you share the part numbers for the sandwich plate kit, turbo drain fitting, molnar piston install tool, arp head bolts or studs. What bearing kit did you use for the connecting rods and main bearings. Any issues with the turbo drain to the oil pan? How many miles have you put on the engine since the swap? Thanks
So after your swap, did you need to retune the car or anything? Or will it run normally with factory tune? Thinking of doing this swap but not sure if i'll need an accessport and tune
Hi going to be doing my swap soon, did you re use the timing chain and components that came with the used 2.5 engine and just get new bolts and washers? Any problems down the road?
Yea, I used all the timing components from the 2.5 and bought the new crankshaft bolt and washers. Been running strong with no issues yet for over 11 months/10,500 miles
How much was the fusion engine? Thinking about buying an MS3 with a blown motor and swapping the block (not doing a build, just want something quick and decent on gas). What was the overall swap cost MINUS the piston heads and rods (imagine that a guy isn't going to bother tearing down the 2.5)? Also, did you use the 2.3 head?
Let's say $400-500 for the long block 2.5, then you should at least do timing/gasket kit/timing tool $300-400, crank pulley washers and crank bolt $30-40, oil sandwich plate, oil feed line, oil drain $100, oil/coolant $100ish and probably another $100 in small stuff (bolts hoses etc...)
Hey man, I did the 2.5 swap and after the first start it will run and then die after a min. I was wondering if you had to do any tuning right after or if it just ran fine
It's been running great, I've put on just over 10,000 miles in just over 10 months of driving every day. I'm actually in the middle of doing a big turbo (gt3582) that should be done by December
Oil drain www.ebay.com/itm/222710057324?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=vIjHaMlqTqS&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=ESzODG9kSzy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY , oil supply line www.ebay.com/itm/115318416263?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=rgjAKh31SFO&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=ESzODG9kSzy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY , oil return to pan www.ebay.com/itm/262953006105?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ioCfPANOTtm&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=ESzODG9kSzy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY , oil supply to turbo but use the stock bolt www.ebay.com/itm/263981539011?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ioCfPANOTtm&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=ESzODG9kSzy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
So i retrofitted a 2.5 into my 07 escape it had a 2.3 before trying to figure out how I would turbo it. I know the speeds came turboed but my pcm/ecu is different from the big plug ecu mine has the three pigtails. I came from Honda where you could get an ecu jumper harness and could convert it to a turbo ecu easily. Is that the case with the mzr/duratec ecu/pcm?
So you could just do a universal turbo kit, but if you want the mazdaspeed goodies, you would have to swap the head to a mzr head because of the direct injection injectors and you would have to use the mzr engine harness. But I'm sure there are other ways, I just don't know of any.
Here is the oil drain www.ebay.com/itm/233420504528?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=dZeS6i5KSYa&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=ESzODG9kSzy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Here is the oil line www.ebay.com/itm/113131927413?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=rgjAKh31SFO&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=ESzODG9kSzy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Here are the oil line fittings www.ebay.com/itm/263981539011?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ioCfPANOTtm&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=ESzODG9kSzy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY And here is the oil pan piece www.ebay.com/itm/262953006105?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ioCfPANOTtm&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=ESzODG9kSzy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Hey man I just wanna say thanks again cars been running pretty good but I do have a question I have a cobb access port on it and I noticed when doing a pull the car right away will build 17psi of boost but fall off right away to about 11 or 12psi through the rest of the pull do you know if that's something normal or do I got something going on this is my first speed and have no idea if thats normal also mimes a 08 gen 1
Is it worth getting a speed3 turbo? I swapped a 2.5 into my focus but I just need a little more from it, unless cams and a tune would be more the route to go. idk
The head on the 2.5 and the 2.3 have the same exhaust ports so you can use any turbo manifold for a speed 3 on your 2.5. There are people out there turboing the 2.5
Hey just a question does the car sound different from a noramal speed 3 engine? I like the subaruish rumble from the 2.3 and was wondering if the bottom end would effect the sound.
No, because what gives it the sound is the unequal length runners on the turbo manifold. You do an equal length turbo manifold and you'll lose the rumble
@@bigboostmcgee4211 I have a blown speed engine but the head is good should I just swap the 2.5 onto it? do you think the stock internals could handle fbo?
@@bigboostmcgee4211 I have a question so with the timing components I want to use the 2.5 would I have to use the 2.5 sprocket and vvt? or would I use the 2.3 sprocket and vvt?
Hey so I finally got done with the two. Five build but I’m not only into an issue for some reason I can’t hit max boost I only get around 10 psi would you know the problem?
I'd start with checking your vacuum lines going to the wastegate and boost controller, other than that I can't think of anything without seeing it off the top of my head
It has been doing g great, but I had a flat tire on the highway, and when I pulled off, I cracked my oil pan and broke off my oil filter adapter, so it's been sitting for about 6 months
You know..... I love that you showed the mistakes, and reacted as if it’s part of the process and learning experience. This is an amazing video of this swap
Thanks, I appreciate the comment 🤙
Awesome build video
One of the best update video on 2.5 swap
Thanks for sharing your build it will hello guys like myself and others who is looking to do this 🙏 🙏
Glad more people are catching up to this swap
I copied a lot from your builds, so thanks for putting them out there!!!
Great build, can't wait to see this thing shredding the tires
Did the same thing with a POS ring compressor....I ended up borrowing a tapered ring compressor from my mechanic friend. I hate those cheap ring compressors. I'm enjoying your detailed video, thx
was it worth doing the swap? idk i only want 400 HP for little hatch 🐣 but still deciding if i Need to do it or just keep it bolt ons
I heard a little pain in your voice when you talked about breaking that cam
Nice honest video
Well put together video wish I watched it before I did my swap lol
great video, amazing work! One complaint is the music at 26:00 is way too loud i couldnt hear a thing you were sayting
nice build n the motor sounds healthy...
Thanks, I'm definitely proud of it
@@bigboostmcgee4211 just curious would you happen to know what compression ratio is now with 2.3 head and 2.5 bottom end with the rod /piston combination... That's a good build for the future equipped with a good flowing exhaust manifold and decently sized turbo...🤣🤣🤣😂
I am definitely thinking of doing this swap on my 09 speed3 it’s coming up to almost 150k miles
So far so good...got just over 1000 miles on it and it's great. Going to be posting some updates and pulls here soon
very very interesting, thanks for putting together.
Can I ask how you came about the 2.5 and what you paid ballpark?
Thanks, I bought it from lkq on ebay for $375 shipped to my house
@@bigboostmcgee4211 Oh my god. I know the work/knowledge will likely cost more than that but dang that's cheap.
With the mistakes, some tools and upgrades a little under $1800
@@bigboostmcgee4211 what did you type in ebay ?
Yessss it's the right move 🙏
Sucks it blew up though man 😭, how many miles/KMs are on it
It had 121000ish on it and I beat on it for a good 60000. I believe the pcv went bad introducing boost into the crank case and pushed a lot of oil out and starved cylinder 3 of oil. Gives me a chance to see what this 2.5 can do
@@bigboostmcgee4211 oh yo, well good luck with the 2.5 swap, seemingly everyone that's done it hasnt regretted it 🙏
Awesome work! Looks like it pulls pretty quick. I'm assuming the little stroke helps it get into boost a bit faster?
Definitely interested in seeing and hearing your thoughts between the factory setup and the swap. Real life felt torque, reliability, what would you do differently... that sort of thing. Awesome job again!
Thanks... I'll be doing an update video soon with some pulls and an overview of the build
So smooth calm understanding! Thanks man my 2.3 knocked a rod so I’m thinking of doing the 2.5 swap, any advice on how to get the complete knowledge on how the swap works? It seems you covered a lot of it
I watched other videos before doing it and tried to show/add anything I thought would help. I'd wish I would have left the stock rods just to see what they'd take, it would have took lest time and would have been real budget build
Nice video, it's interesting to see new ways to get the cars running. Crate engines are like 7k 😭
@D.Ghost92 Even this swap has doubled in price since I did this
@@bigboostmcgee4211 how it held up??
@D.Ghost92 it held up great, but it currently has a hole in the oil pan and my oil filter housing broke off when I hit some debris on the highway. It was running great on the gt3582. It's not my daily so it's going to be down for just a little
I just did this swap on my speed 6. Have you figured out whay your abs and traction control light is on? And the fix?
How do you like the swap? Yea my traction control and steering wheel light are on because I have the steering wheel angle sensor unplugged. The abs light is on because I installed the wheel bearing wrong and haven't replaced it.
You mentioned using a 2012 year motor. I was wondering what years of the Ford Duratec engines are compatible with the 2.3; they seem to have something different in the lineage between 2009 to 2012 and 2013 to 2016 and then up. Are all years of Ford's 2.5 essentially the same or compatible?
I'd stick with the 09-12
Planning on doing the same this next couple of weeks.
Did u do it
Hoping you used break-in oil since you replaced the rods, bearings, pistons, and rings.
-Nevermind. 30:04 you mentioned break-in oil.
Modern day metals and oils are much different. On all of my race builds I’ve used 5w30 as break in. No need for a “special break in” just replace after idling for a bit, then again after a few days or week of driving
Okay. So I’m just really planting my feet into the mazdaspeed world. What’s the benefit of this. Stronger bottom end ? And whats the benefit of doing the ms3 head on the 2.5 block. Is it basically the same concept as the Honda k20/k24 hybrid motors ? Better compression and better overall platform to build off of ?
The benefit for me was the cost, I honestly don't know anyone who has pushed this setup so I'm not sure what it can handle. The 2.3 crank is forged and the 2.5 is not so there is the weak point if you're going to push it that far. I'm planning to have high 400 whp and want to be able to run it hard everyday. I did gain a noticeable amount of tourqe that makes it hard to keep traction. If you can afford the time and money to build the 2.3, I would, but if you are in a crunch and just want to rip it again the duratec/mzr 2.5 is the way to go
When you were saying the ring gap numbers I think you definitely meant .024 inches instead of mm for the bottom right?
Mate, How come you didn't put the turbo drain into the block ?? What's wrong with the stock 2.5 rods ??
Well the 2.5 block doesn't have the flange for the oil return, that's why you have to make a new one. As for the rods, if I would have pulled the 2.5 apart first I probably wouldn't have done the rods. I bought them knowing that the stock mazdaspeed rods are the week point and I want to push 500-600 whp daily.
@@bigboostmcgee4211 on the block of the 2.5 in a similar position to the 2.3 there is a large casting of aluminium, has any body tried to drill that out and tap in a connector for return line , apparently the stock rods in a 2.5 will do 450hp , there supposed to be sintered forged whatever that means , will you be rebalancing your crank to suit the new rod and piston combo .
I was on a time restraint since this is my daily and it unexpectedly spun the rod bearing and all the machine shops had over a month wait, so that's why I didn't have things balanced or even the head decked. If I wasn't in such a hurry to get it done I definitely would have done more but I just needed a running car
So if I get a 2014 Ford fusion 2.5 engine, I can do this swap into my 2012 mazdaspeed 3? Of course doing the cylinder head thing etc..
Yea for sure
@@bigboostmcgee4211 thanks for the response 👍🤝
@@bigboostmcgee4211 i wanted to make sure. I was thinking maybe the blocks changed or something.
To be honest I think they are the same until 15/16 but to be safe I'd stick with a 10-13
@@bigboostmcgee4211 👍👍
Hey man, thanks for your video, I broke my exhaust camshaft grove exactly like you did, but I did not order new cam and I am running the car as it is. Is it okay? What made you change it tho
dam i love your build bro
I would love to do this to my 2011 Mazda 3 but she wont die just change the oil and no probs ever
increible muy educativo saludos desde chile
Nice video but I have a question, since the Mazda Speed is Direct Injection the piston crowns are shaped accordingly to facilitate the injectors spraying directly onto them while the 2.5 pistons don’t have that, they’re designed for regular Port Injection, so I’m wondering how those pistons handle Direct Injection?
It runs exactly the same as before after the swap at least from what I can tell
Interesting…Ok I gotta find out more about this!
Also I see you just dropped those rods in without weighing them or balancing them, was there a weight difference between them and the original rods?
Honestly it was a build I had to make happen as fast as I could so I did no machine work or measuring. Just slapped it together and sent it. I'd probably do it differently if I had more time and it wasn't my daily just for peace of mind but it runs great and strong at 26psi on gt3582
Ok that’s good to know…
are the connecting rod bearings the same size as the 2.3?
I don't know the exact sizes, I ordered them from massive speed system for the 2.5
So cool man!!
Thanks, working on a big turbo kit for it right now, just waiting on a couple of little things
@@bigboostmcgee4211 Awesome bro!! Subed!! what turbo getting? Ive been running a BNRS4 for around 5 years now
Going with a gt3582 top mount
@@bigboostmcgee4211 Sweet that will be sick!!
I try to look where exactly location you install the turbo oil feed
Thoughts on putting a VT supercharger on a 2.5 gen2? Seen one guy do it on TH-cam and honestly thinking about doing it myself. Just wish there was more documentation on this.
Supposedly there a groups online that talk about it and have done it, but I’m struggling to find them. New to this type of thing, but I want a project like this
So this is essentially a 2.5L now right? Do you still have the stock turbo? Thinking of putting a speed 3 turbo on my 2.5L.
Yea a 2.5 ford fusion bottom end with a mazdaspeed head/turbo setup
Im doing the same with my 2.5, but I have a question about the transmission? Did you have any issues putting the speed box with the 2.5 block??
@LuisBeltran-sk7ly no not at all just make sure you use a speed 3 pilot bearing
Hey, I know I’m a little late to this but what crankshaft did you use? Google says the stock 2.5 crank can only handle 215. Thanks if you see this.
I have a 2.3 crank with like 160k in it I’m thinking of getting it balanced and just using it
so the the speed 3 transmission fits the 2.5 block no issues? If so then i should be able to put a speed 3 tranny in my 2.5 hatch,correct?
Yea, if the shift linkage fits. The trans definitely bolts to the block though
@@bigboostmcgee4211 good to know,i already have a 6 speed but no lsd,hence the speed 3 tranny.
You’ll need speed axles and linkage iirc. I originally planned to turbo my 2.5 and swap a speed trans in, but I was able to buy a dead speed for 1500 so now in considering the 2.5 or 2.3. One is easier. One is cheaper 🤷🏻♀️
@@AlicesMazduhs insurance is cheaper on the 2.5 . they don't have to no i turbo it.
@@AlicesMazduhs why would i need the extras? same tranny just no lsd
How did the turbo drain work for you? I'm finishing up a 2.5 swap ms3 and worried about the axle being in the way.
I did bend it slightly, probably went from 45° to about 55-60° and now I have a good inch from the axel, It didn't touch but I was nervous too. Good luck 👍
Can you share the part numbers for the sandwich plate kit, turbo drain fitting, molnar piston install tool, arp head bolts or studs. What bearing kit did you use for the connecting rods and main bearings.
Any issues with the turbo drain to the oil pan? How many miles have you put on the engine since the swap? Thanks
Oil drain is holding strong, just about 12,200ish miles so far (my daily) in 10 months
I stay with the complete 2.5 better end , hone new rings regap for turbo good for 450 hp
so with 2.5 stock rods and pistons its good for 450hp? about to do the swap and going to run e85 not sure if i should go with upgraded rods
So after your swap, did you need to retune the car or anything? Or will it run normally with factory tune? Thinking of doing this swap but not sure if i'll need an accessport and tune
Ran great without a tune
Hi going to be doing my swap soon, did you re use the timing chain and components that came with the used 2.5 engine and just get new bolts and washers? Any problems down the road?
Yea, I used all the timing components from the 2.5 and bought the new crankshaft bolt and washers. Been running strong with no issues yet for over 11 months/10,500 miles
Did you pull engine from top or bottom? I got to do same engine on a CX7 AWD - looks so tight.
Actually I removed the radiator support and pulled it out the front. Not sure if it would be the same.
@@bigboostmcgee4211 Did you pull engine and transmission together?
@pingpong9656 yea I pulled the axels and left the trans attached
What timing cover did you use? That doesn’t look like a normal 2.3 cover. 🤔
The 2.3 and the 2.5 have the exact same front cover
@@bigboostmcgee4211 they actually don’t, depending on which 2.5 you use. I found this out the hard way..
There are differences where the mount attaches (angle and number of mounting bolts.
I guess I got lucky
How much was the fusion engine? Thinking about buying an MS3 with a blown motor and swapping the block (not doing a build, just want something quick and decent on gas). What was the overall swap cost MINUS the piston heads and rods (imagine that a guy isn't going to bother tearing down the 2.5)? Also, did you use the 2.3 head?
Let's say $400-500 for the long block 2.5, then you should at least do timing/gasket kit/timing tool $300-400, crank pulley washers and crank bolt $30-40, oil sandwich plate, oil feed line, oil drain $100, oil/coolant $100ish and probably another $100 in small stuff (bolts hoses etc...)
@@bigboostmcgee4211 right on. I appreciate it.
@@bigboostmcgee4211 sorry. Did you use the 2.3 head? Of so do you get 2.3 head studs or 2.5?
You have to run the 2.3 head in a speed, I did use ARP head studs in the video, I do explain the whole build in the video
Any regrets sticking with the stock pistons and not upgrading?
No, not at all "yet"
Which head gasket did you use? 2.5 or 2.3?
I ended up using a 2.5 gasket set with a mazdaspeed valve cover and hpfp gasket
Did you have to have it tuned specifically for the 2.5 ? And how has it been since the swap ?
Also are the pistons interchangeable between the 2.3 and 2.5 ?
I didn't have to tune it after and it's still kicking. As for the pistons they are not Interchangeable
@@bigboostmcgee4211 what sandwich plate did you use to feed the turbo ?
Just a generic Amazon one
Hey man, I did the 2.5 swap and after the first start it will run and then die after a min. I was wondering if you had to do any tuning right after or if it just ran fine
It started and ran no problem without a updated tune, but I did have to do the corksport hpfp rebuild kit soon after because of fuel pressure issues
@@bigboostmcgee4211 I think that might be my issue is not having the Hpfp
Did you get the block honed or just you sent it and put new piston and rings on ?
I just sent it, I was building on a budget
@@bigboostmcgee4211 how has it been holding up ever since? Thinking about doing what you did
It's been running great, I've put on just over 10,000 miles in just over 10 months of driving every day. I'm actually in the middle of doing a big turbo (gt3582) that should be done by December
can you post the parts and part number of the drain and feed for the turbo you ordered?
Oil drain www.ebay.com/itm/222710057324?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=vIjHaMlqTqS&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=ESzODG9kSzy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY , oil supply line www.ebay.com/itm/115318416263?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=rgjAKh31SFO&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=ESzODG9kSzy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY , oil return to pan www.ebay.com/itm/262953006105?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ioCfPANOTtm&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=ESzODG9kSzy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY , oil supply to turbo but use the stock bolt www.ebay.com/itm/263981539011?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ioCfPANOTtm&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=ESzODG9kSzy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@@bigboostmcgee4211 and the plate that you have bolted to the oil filter housing? thanks for sending those
Where does the painted mark on timing chain go? Does it line up on the intake sprocket, want to make sure my intake sprocket is in the right position
Are you using a timing plate?
So i retrofitted a 2.5 into my 07 escape it had a 2.3 before trying to figure out how I would turbo it. I know the speeds came turboed but my pcm/ecu is different from the big plug ecu mine has the three pigtails. I came from Honda where you could get an ecu jumper harness and could convert it to a turbo ecu easily. Is that the case with the mzr/duratec ecu/pcm?
So you could just do a universal turbo kit, but if you want the mazdaspeed goodies, you would have to swap the head to a mzr head because of the direct injection injectors and you would have to use the mzr engine harness. But I'm sure there are other ways, I just don't know of any.
i have a mazda that threw a timing chain and i was wondering if i could get a 2.5l ford fusion motor and add a turbo to it?
You definitely could
I'm doing a 2.5 swap on my car too. Are the Ford head studs the same as the Mazda head studs? Need to figure out what to buy.
Yea I used the ecoboost 2.3 arp head studs
@@bigboostmcgee4211 Ecoboost? I was expecting it to be either the 2.5 duratec or the 2.3 mzr disi turbo
They are all the same
@@bigboostmcgee4211 Thank you!
where did you get the parts to make the oil lines for the turbo those are the last things i need to make for mine and how is the drain holding up?
Here is the oil drain www.ebay.com/itm/233420504528?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=dZeS6i5KSYa&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=ESzODG9kSzy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Here is the oil line www.ebay.com/itm/113131927413?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=rgjAKh31SFO&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=ESzODG9kSzy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Here are the oil line fittings www.ebay.com/itm/263981539011?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ioCfPANOTtm&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=ESzODG9kSzy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
And here is the oil pan piece www.ebay.com/itm/262953006105?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ioCfPANOTtm&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=ESzODG9kSzy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Hey man I just wanna say thanks again cars been running pretty good but I do have a question I have a cobb access port on it and I noticed when doing a pull the car right away will build 17psi of boost but fall off right away to about 11 or 12psi through the rest of the pull do you know if that's something normal or do I got something going on this is my first speed and have no idea if thats normal also mimes a 08 gen 1
That is normal for a older stock turbo in my experience
Alright sounds good how's your car holding up and what kinda power is it making?
@@taitejeanes2022 holding strong with the gt3582, not sure on the power
What did you do for the turbo mount
I used it but only 2 of the 3 holes lined up
What head gasket do I use for the swap the 2.3 or the 2.5
I used the 2.5 head gasket
other than swap flywheel from 2.3 anything else needed to be done to use the speed trans?
Just make sure that there is a pilot bearing and use the clutch and flywheel from the speed
@@bigboostmcgee4211 pilot bearing comes with a new clutch and pressure plate right?
Not all the time, some do and some don't
one question, you didnt have to swap out the ECU or anything like that? Did you have to set a fresh tune made for the 2.5?
I used the same tune from freaktune for the stock 2.3
Was the tune expensive?
What years of the 2.5 can you use?
I believe it's the 09-12 year engines
Is it worth getting a speed3 turbo? I swapped a 2.5 into my focus but I just need a little more from it, unless cams and a tune would be more the route to go. idk
The head on the 2.5 and the 2.3 have the same exhaust ports so you can use any turbo manifold for a speed 3 on your 2.5. There are people out there turboing the 2.5
Is ECM are same ..1.6, 2.3 and 2.5
No they are different
Hey just a question does the car sound different from a noramal speed 3 engine? I like the subaruish rumble from the 2.3 and was wondering if the bottom end would effect the sound.
No, because what gives it the sound is the unequal length runners on the turbo manifold. You do an equal length turbo manifold and you'll lose the rumble
@@bigboostmcgee4211 I have a blown speed engine but the head is good should I just swap the 2.5 onto it? do you think the stock internals could handle fbo?
@tr4peclipse76 I have no idea about the stock rods but I'm full bolt on with a gt3582r tuned by freak tune
@@bigboostmcgee4211 I have a question so with the timing components I want to use the 2.5 would I have to use the 2.5 sprocket and vvt? or would I use the 2.3 sprocket and vvt?
@tr4peclipse76 I used the chain and gears from the 2.5 bottom end and cam gears and vvt from the 2.3 top end.
What hose did you use for the oil return?
I used a rubber oil hose and wrapped it in dei heat shield/wrap
Have you ever had issues with oil feed/drain issues? How about high crank case pressures? I’m trying to diagnose possible turbo seals going bad
Anyway you could provide the cam timing friction washer part number?
I bought them from edgeautosport.com
Is the swap significantly easier by using the 2.3 timing system?
Only thing easier is that you wouldn't have to replace the cam gear friction washers, everything else is necessary
@@bigboostmcgee4211 where did you get the friction washers from?
I got them from edgeautosport.com, they have most of all you would need
@@bigboostmcgee4211 thanks, also where did you find the bolt torque values for the swap? Not sure to use 2.5 values or speed 3 values
I used all the speed specs
Do you know where to get forged internals for the 2.5?
The rods I got from massive speed system and pistons can be found but they are pricey
Do you have a link?
@@westonpratt6927 www.massivespeedsystem.com/2012-ford-fusion-sel-4cyl-25l/a-9267225.aspx
There are a few companies now that make forged internals. Try searching for esslinger or speedperformance.
Your videos are what gave me the confidence to do my own swap, seriously thanks for putting it out there
What site did you order the Mazda 6 pistons from?
I bought the pistons from mazda and bought the rings on Amazon
@@bigboostmcgee4211 thankyou
@@bigboostmcgee4211forgot to ask about the rod bearings lol are you running the stock 2.5 rod bearings or should I order new ones?
Hey so I finally got done with the two. Five build but I’m not only into an issue for some reason I can’t hit max boost I only get around 10 psi would you know the problem?
I'd start with checking your vacuum lines going to the wastegate and boost controller, other than that I can't think of anything without seeing it off the top of my head
What was the issue I’m having the same problem
@@abbygoudreau6039 it was a bad Cadillac converter, and my waist gate wasn’t tune properly
By tuned properly you mean it wasn’t working or did you have to get a tune for the car
What rod bearings size did u use?
I used oe sized 2.5 rod bearings
@@bigboostmcgee4211 ok thanks how is the swap holding up
It has been doing g great, but I had a flat tire on the highway, and when I pulled off, I cracked my oil pan and broke off my oil filter adapter, so it's been sitting for about 6 months
@@bigboostmcgee4211 sorry to hear that hope you get it fixed and up and running soon. Thanks again
Is it worth it?
Yea it is, unless you're going for a full race build
hi !!! still run ?
Yea running strong, getting ready to post a video of a gt3582 turbo I installed on the car
Friggin SHWEEEEET
Thanks
Can't hear a word you're saying at the 26:00 mark.
Yea sorry, editing mistake on my part
If you have a damond motorsports pcv plate for a 2.3 can you swap it over to the 2.5 ?
Yea, they are the exact same
Is the 2.5 in a 2018 mazda 3 grandtouring the same engine as this? If not, can it handle boost?