Fractals in the Music of Carla Bley | s c o r e s t u d y 0 3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 พ.ค. 2020
- What makes Carla Bley's "Jésus Maria" so perfect? I enlisted the help of Adam Neely, Jay Sawyer, Nick Grinder, and John Lake to explore the cascade-like fractal structure of one of Bley's most iconic compositions.
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Sources:
www.wattxtrawatt.com
Beal, Amy C. Carla Bley
www.theguardian.com/books/201...
Tindall, William York A Reader’s Guide to FW
Joyce, James Finnegans Wake
Well that was a DELIGHT! Nice work!!
Brian _____ As a 'Musical 'newbie' at 77', I consider 'You, and 'Adam Neely' 'the Hope for the World', in your sharing of your Intellects. 'Fractals'... was great !
Thank you, Donn. So cool that you’re exploring new music! I hope I’m doing the same when I’m 77!
Adam Neely did a shoutout to you. Your content is amazing!
This is just amazing - Adam nailing the Steve Swallow plectrum technique
Steve himself was impressed!
I was binge watching Carla Bley vidz and this came up...... *mind blown*
Thank you Adam Neely for sending us to this channel!
There's a piece called "Waiting For Kate" by one of my old professors, Rick DiMuzio, which matches exactly the concept you're talking about here. I've been obsessed with it for that reason, so it's really great that you went deep on it here.
This was a great video! Always good to see Adam pop up too!
Thanks! (great username, btw)
Go away, Soulless collector of 20th Century genius works.
... superb !!! I should have had access to this 50 years ago (no kiddin' ...!) !
thanks for this. Carla was such a genius. (Joyce is th'bomb)
Enjoyed your analysis very much. One slight point though. Musique Mecanique was released in 1979, not 1969. In 1969 she was still in the process of the three year project of Escalator Over the Hill. Perhaps someone else has already pointed this out? Terrific work in any case.
I LOVE this Brian Krock, and his drawing together the fractal qualities of Bley with Finnegans Wake! If we had a son, I would want him to be Brian!!
Carla was one of the most important composers / band leaders of the 20th century. And all that as a woman - well, Maria Schneider could tell us about that ...
This is so fascinating. So happy to have found your great channel. Can't wait to binge all the videos
Fascinating stuff!
Fantastic content!! Thx so much.
I've been trying to find the lyrics to Jesus Maria for ages! Thank you!
This was an absolute joy - just saw the ending, clever the whole way through - keep making things and I'll keep watching.
so fucking good holy fuck im on a binge
Cool vid.Thanks
I loved this video. Carla really is one of the greatest
Being very familiar with fractals, this was a delight! Great video. Love the topic-blending. Less artificial seperation and more holistic thinking... Love it!
Great job!
Amazing work! I love the directions you went in!
nc-trc I’m glad you dug it!
Thank you, Sir Brian
robert blumschein thanks for watching!
Really cool videos! . Nice to have found your channel
Good to see Adam Neely in your video.
amazing video!
Thanks!
Great video! I am also obsessed with fractals. I found the form of John Adams’ Fearful Symmetries to be a fractal of cascading climaxes
Interesting, I'm going to have to go re-listen to that! Thank you.
I think it's important to mention that the widely accepted definition of a fractal (at least at the University of Utah, where i got my degree in math) is much more general than that you have presented in this video.
Fractals are lines which have dimensionality between 1 and 2 - this is particularly weird because we normally discuss dimensions in terms of natural numbers (1,2,3... so on and so forth)
The fractals that you refer to (like the sierpinski triangle or the mandelbrot set) are what are called self similar fractals - fractals that display the same shape on a macro and micro scale.
However, these fractals account for an incredibly minute amount of possible fractals. Most fractals that exist are NOT self similar (like the butterfly fractal from the Voltera Lotka model of population, or the fractal which describes the coastline of Britain).
It's a somewhat pedantic distinction to make, but I thought i'd point it out for funsies.
Thanks for pointing that out, Jeffry. Definitely an important distinction to make. Honestly, if I'd have thought more thank like 100 people would be watching this video, I might have done more research :/ But, I hope I made it clear that I was using the idea of fractals- SELF SIMILAR fractals, that is- as a *metaphor* for a broader structural idea!
@@BrianKrock I'm just being nit picky, this video is fantastic
"And he grew / grew grew and grew / grew up to be / grew up to be / A boy named Brian / Not a girl named Brian"
10:04 thesauri my good man.
Great content! I'd love it, if the soundeffects and the voice were the same volume.
Thanks for your input! I’m still working out the kinks...
Very well done video. Wouldn’t fractals just be another term for theme and variations that’s been done forever? Sonata/fugue form. How is it different?
A fractal has a self-similar structure, which means that the smallest fragment is the same as the whole thing (first bar mirrors the entire piece). Themes or motifs can be phrases of equal length which are repeated throughout the piece, while fractals must repeat from the smallest to the largest scale.
lol nice very cvol thx
well yeah... there's the key... did these artist do it unconsiously or was it fully intended. or maybe they saw it later on (before someone else pointed it out). was the word fractal even in use when joyce wrote?
what about the enigma variations? maybe i'm sorry i asked that...
Adam Neely brought me here.
James Joyce's name drop got me to stay.
dat moustache...
don ellis hey jude bro my guy
14:01 simpsons. simpsons
You look like Chris hadfield
"Hay-soos" is "Jesus" pronounced in spanish
Yup! (It was actually my chosen name for my Spanish class in high school, and my teacher always called me "Diablo" instead.)
@@BrianKrock Teachers know
Hmm.. Honestly not sure I'm seeing fractals.. Self referencial yes..
But a degree of self similar of orders of magnitude..?
Wouldn't heysoos be pronoucned heySoos..? not heyZeus..?
She is just borrowing the intro from Satie's Gymnopedie!
not the same harmony or rhythm but the lydian mode is present in both.
That is an interesting parallel- it honestly never occurred to me. She isn’t really “borrowing,” but it is very similar. I talked to both Carla and Steve about the tune, and neither of them mentioned Satie... but I’m sure they both admire his music!
@@BrianKrock Of course it's very different. And both are great pieces. Good video anyway. It might have given me som ideas for compostions.
Absurd stretches of logic and nonsensical parsing.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schenkerian_analysis