Definitely agree, cliques should be number 1. Nothing's worse than arriving at a game group to find your friends have decided to play Agricola or Pillars Of The Earth in advance for the umpteenth time, and your new game gets unplayed.
You touched on this a bit, but a club will play what it plays. You can certainly try to "bring up" games you want to play, but some groups formed around filler games want to play filler games. My tip: Accept the group that forms, even if the group that forms doesn't necessarily play the weight of games you'd like to play. A good play of a filler or lighter game will almost always more pleasing than a trainwreck of Ark Nova.
I'm 'kinda' in charge of running a club in Farnborough,, it's definitely not easy sometimes, especially when new people turn up and you have to try to keep everyone happy! It's sometimes challenging and akin to herding cats when you have nearly 20+ people all looking for games at various levels!
Time frame: my group may start atound 5 or 6pm, but the host graciously provides a dish. Sometimes other people bring snacks and sides. So people can come straight from work.
I was fortunate to rekindle my love of gaming by joining a new gaming meetup 8 years ago. I learned games like Splendor, Puerto Rico and Kingsburg that blew my mind. They were happy to play my copy of Acquire with me (my only favorite at the time). But I felt like that was the limit for complexity for learning/playing in a public setting. After a few years I stopped going (after a bad brass teach). Instead I decided to solo game, then taught friends to game and decided to play privately.
I've been watching your videos for quite some time now and I really liked them. But this one... it just clicked with me. It made me feel much more connected to you or your opinions. Thanks for making this list. It really made me notice what was wrong with the board game clubs I tried to join. Unfortunately there aren't that many clubs here. Maybe I should try to find some people and found a club myself. At least I have a very useful list at hand and know what to take into account. Cheers from Germany.
This video gave me the hitch to host more game nights at my place. I kinda want to try to do a « club » with my friends and host/play more. We’ll see how that turns out ☺️
Did the same thing to me with wanting to run something publically for people to attend, a regular group around me fell stopped recently after months of limping through, so I'd like to try and give back a bit to the local area
I hate double dipping into comments but had a thought overnight. You start a club for the good of the hobby, not for yourself, and people who don't follow that philosophy tend to fail at running clubs
Pleased to see you doing this one, Luke, now to see if the clubs I'm part of adhere to the list Edit after watching: Cliques kill more social groups than anything else, I also do amatuer theatre as a hobby and cliques can kill those groups stone dead, seems to be a potential problem with people in general
Yeah a lack of desire to interact with other people. Or to avoid people without sitting down to discuss like adults. It's basically like being kids at school again.
As someone who attended board game clubs and is a founder of one I can tell you that there's nothing bad with people playing with their group only. People have limited time and they want to use it to the best of their ability. They don't want to be trapped in a 2-3 hour game with some weird loner who doesn't understand social cues. Excess cliques can kill your club that's true, but also trying to include everyone can push more introverted people away. Basically read the room, meet people, and figure out their tastes.
Sure, you could do that. But if you want to play new games and have someone explain them to you you'll want to visit a club. I have 2 groups that never mix, they hardly ever interact even with me and I'm fine with that.
Good tips. I think you should also add to the timeframe is that consistency is key. It has to be scheduled every week or whatever, so people know they have to make time for it
Point 1 - While it's taken me a while to figure-out the dynamics, our club is mostly reasonably complex wargames. Personally, I want to have a game setup before hand, both so I know what I'll get, but also so I can read/review the rules. The key is to have this messaging open to everyone.
Great video! I just moved to a new city and will be looking for a club. If I don't find any already running, I may try to get one running myself. The tips were very helpful 👍
I’m not even a fan of pre-arranged games which are advertised on the main Facebook group to everyone before anyone arrives. That happens at my local group - and without the slightest bit of cliqueyness - but it still reduces the options for people who aren’t in that game. Another bloke and I got burned a bit by this a few months ago where we wound up in two player games together for the first few games (and we hadn’t really brought 2 player games) - and when we suggested joining up with the other pair of people playing, they looked terrified at the prospect. That said, and hypocritically, I do often say yes when people do ask for players in advance so I don’t wind up in that situation again.
Shame that occurred - our Southampton group does it right, we bring games, say who's up for what, and make a decision - even if I have to be the moderator!
Very good list 👍 I've never understood people who come out just to stay in their cliques. I see it a lot at cons all the time as well. Also, I would say good hygiene is not one to be underestimated in 3. Ground rules. I had to quit one particular club because it got to be like playing board games in a sewer
Great list. RE: starting with filler games, my club tends to gravitate towards starting with the main event, then finishing off with a shorter game based on how much time is left. Sometimes people can be burned out when it's later at night so a lighter game is a better fit for the mood. I see your point about buying time for more people to show up though!
The timing one is correct. My midtown NYC meetup group starts at 6 PM and is located inside a food court so people can come right after work and eat there. my new jersey group starts a little later, on a Friday night so people who can only come on weekdays and people who can only come on weeknights can both attend, and it's also located inside a low(ish) priced food establishment so people don't have to worry about dinner beforehand. To be honest, I prefer to not make adjustments for people with children, because they always want the children to come to the games meet up, and then I have to watch my language and I'm never sure what they know and what they don't know. I was recently playing in someone else's group where a woman showed up with her son who was playing the games but she was sitting behind him telling him how to screw people, that he wasn't playing aggressively enough.
Love this vid Luke!! (Cracked up at Picards "shut up wesley" gag you inserted...genius!! 😂) Honestly I'd love to attend a club you go to. I think you'd help to run it very well, and even if you were just attending to play and not run, I think youd be a laugh to play with. And THAT for me is MY number 1: the people and their attitude towards others!! Having the right people present is key imo, but you cant and shouldn't control who can or cannot attend. So imo, People who go to the club, should all agree on the social unwritten rule of: Either 1) leaving their personal agendas or their personal triggers re: political/religious or other views, at the door. Or 2) ALLOWING ALL VIEWS and Not judging negatively or excluding people with contrary views or opinions, whatever they may be. Therefore conversation can be respectful but open, honest and without prejudice or malice or judgement against the 'accepted norm'. I personally prefer the latter, because I always like to learn NEW things and points of view, and I NEVER judge others on their opinions...their actions matter more. Not all people ARE like this I guess, that's why option 1 is also possible. Nothing wrong with playing with anyone, of any creed, political view, race or gender, particularly when you fundamentally disagree with them. The issue imo arises when "some" individuals dont tolerate contrary views of others....and feel like they need to smash that opinion apart. Not only kills boardgame groups, but I think any Community. And fundamentally, a boardgame group IS a form of a community. We need to connect more as people WITH other people. Not isolate. Anyway.. Just my point of view. Keep going man, love your vids. Maybe one day I'll pop down to one of your boardgame groups,...would be a pleasure to meet you! 👊😎👍
I think the safe thing to do with that is just don't bring it up, regardless of agreement or disagreement they're emotional and inflammatory topics, so it's easier just to leave them at the door and let everyone enjoy the hobby. The trick is to squash it even if you agree with it, cause that's what starts creating a closed shop
A friend of my meetup clubs organizer started to come and could not leave her political opinions at the door. That was a factor in my deciding to leave the group after 3 years and play privately with friends.
That sucks Klaus. . . . Yeah I'm in agreement stuff like political nonsense and the like should be outside the walls of a game club. Games are a good escapism tool and so why burden them with your problems with reality? When it comes to opinions on games, again, people like and hate different things, people shouldn't be belittled for disliking a game someone else likes. I'm certainly blunt on such things as you know and yet I've had instances where it ends up being "it's ok for someone to dis my liked game (which I have no issue with at all), but not the other way around"
This was a great video, really what’s a board game club without people. Sure where all there for a purpose, but the people can be sadly easily forgotten. Cliques is a rough one. It seems like people tend to stay in their comfort zone and can have a hard time dealing with their anxiety over meeting new people or perhaps fearful that they wasted their time on learning a new game they did not enjoy. Guess there’s a lot of emotional baggage there. I can’t imagine how to possibly manage it without feeling like you’re herding cats or really without just plainly calling it out for what it is much to the discomfort of others. Much like the alpha gamer, It depends on the person.
I will agree, however, if you don’t stamp it out, this can be a viral situation. Even newcomers who might not initially feel welcome will then start forming cliques on top of cliques.
Your number 2 is my number 1. Kinda goes hand in hand actually. And I hard disagree about being on social media. Facebook is the bane of society. Better just to use Discord, which I’m totally surprised you didn’t mention, for chatting and setting up games. Also, did you just make this list to gripe about clubs you’ve been to 😂
@@shortydancer the problem with discord is there's no way for the public to discover you, so the group won't grow unless someone knows someone already in the group. Like social media or not, it's a way to have a free public face for a group that people can search for
Yes, Discord is only good when you have the club established already and even then that's for playing online games. And we do use Discord for people who want to play video games outside of the club or online BGA, TTS, etc. That's all well and good, but it won't bring new members to your club. Also ha ha, no it was to love AND gripe about clubs I've been to! :P
You may of mentioned it but creeps can kill peoples interest in coming to a group. I know of 4/5 people who stopped attending the Portsmouth group due to certain peoples behaviour.
I do think that having a system for arranging games in advance (not in secret) is a dealbreaker for me. I find it actively painful trying to get a consensus on what to play on the hoof and it’s just too much of a lottery giving up an evening and not knowing what I’m going to end up playing. Would you turn up at the cinema, not knowing what films were on?
The problem that can cause is that you end up with the same people dictating games that get played, which isn't conducive to growing the group if it's only small, that exact thing killed a group in my local area
Hence I do at least offer my list of games but I don't dictate what we're playing and who's in it in advance. Also if enough people bring games, chances are you're going to play something you enjoy. Cinema is something I enjoy solo anyway, so that is my own individually planned event.
Agreed. Especially if I fancy playing a heavy game with a significant teach - if I know I'm playing it I can watch a rules vid. That being said, that goes hand in hand with point 9, knowing the target audience. I regularly attend two clubs, one which is much more focused on light-mid games and meeting people, where everyone brings a few games and is happy play anything and has a lot of new people regularly. The other, is focused around organising in advance, and often leans towards the heavier games. It's organised through a public excel sheet where people can add games and others can add their names to join the game - it works fantastically, and is made up much more of a core group who attend very regularly.
@@giuseppesavaglio8136 in my experience though that decision making can be a bit painful and takes up unnecessary time. If games are mostly decided in advance the owner can be setting the game up straight away….and you are still taking a gamble turning up not knowing what you will end up playing
You don't have to wait to do that. Just ask café owners if they would be willing to let you organize a board game event. It's an extra profit for them, make a facebook event and that's enough.
You forgot hygiene. Deodorant. A must. Another thing: cell phones. Man, people are so rude when they whip out their phones mid-move or mid-conversation!
There are quite a few already out there. I would post links, but TH-cam doesn't really allow that anymore to deter spam marketing. I recently watched an older one from Shut Up & Sit Down which was very good and also a couple by the dice tower crew, but I have also seen a number of others. I believe the legendary Rodney Smith from Watch It Played also has a series of them. I mean who wouldn't want to teach a game like Rodney; he's the best (sadly, he doesn't teach the Box Flip).
@TheBrokenMeeple I agree. The videos I was talking about are tutorials on effective teaching methods you should use to teach board games to your gaming group/friends on game nights. Regardless of whether you are teaching with editing available or in person, you should spend some time preparing for the teach ahead of time. I have been a professor for over 20 years (and a board game teacher for over 40 years), and I agree with much of what they presented. By the way, we educators got a crash course on the differences between in person and remote teaching during the pandemic.
Nah you’re taking this too seriously. Filler for the beginning to allow people to be a bit late. Things happen. The pro tip is have everyone let people know they will be late and what time they’ll get there. So you can play a game in the time it takes for them to arrive.
I half agree - with the caveat that if someone’s running late they should be able to message the organisers to let them know and they the organisers can make sure there’s a place for them somewhere when or soon after they arrive.
Definitely agree, cliques should be number 1. Nothing's worse than arriving at a game group to find your friends have decided to play Agricola or Pillars Of The Earth in advance for the umpteenth time, and your new game gets unplayed.
You touched on this a bit, but a club will play what it plays. You can certainly try to "bring up" games you want to play, but some groups formed around filler games want to play filler games.
My tip: Accept the group that forms, even if the group that forms doesn't necessarily play the weight of games you'd like to play. A good play of a filler or lighter game will almost always more pleasing than a trainwreck of Ark Nova.
I'm 'kinda' in charge of running a club in Farnborough,, it's definitely not easy sometimes, especially when new people turn up and you have to try to keep everyone happy! It's sometimes challenging and akin to herding cats when you have nearly 20+ people all looking for games at various levels!
Thanks for sharing!
Time frame: my group may start atound 5 or 6pm, but the host graciously provides a dish. Sometimes other people bring snacks and sides. So people can come straight from work.
I was fortunate to rekindle my love of gaming by joining a new gaming meetup 8 years ago. I learned games like Splendor, Puerto Rico and Kingsburg that blew my mind. They were happy to play my copy of Acquire with me (my only favorite at the time). But I felt like that was the limit for complexity for learning/playing in a public setting. After a few years I stopped going (after a bad brass teach). Instead I decided to solo game, then taught friends to game and decided to play privately.
Fair enough, I guess it's a good thing it brought you back to the hobby even if so you could choose your own path.
I've been watching your videos for quite some time now and I really liked them. But this one... it just clicked with me. It made me feel much more connected to you or your opinions. Thanks for making this list. It really made me notice what was wrong with the board game clubs I tried to join. Unfortunately there aren't that many clubs here. Maybe I should try to find some people and found a club myself. At least I have a very useful list at hand and know what to take into account. Cheers from Germany.
Wow many thanks for the kind words!! If you do try to run a club then I wish you the very best of luck!
This video gave me the hitch to host more game nights at my place. I kinda want to try to do a « club » with my friends and host/play more. We’ll see how that turns out ☺️
Best of luck! 😁
Did the same thing to me with wanting to run something publically for people to attend, a regular group around me fell stopped recently after months of limping through, so I'd like to try and give back a bit to the local area
I hate double dipping into comments but had a thought overnight.
You start a club for the good of the hobby, not for yourself, and people who don't follow that philosophy tend to fail at running clubs
Preach!
Pleased to see you doing this one, Luke, now to see if the clubs I'm part of adhere to the list
Edit after watching: Cliques kill more social groups than anything else, I also do amatuer theatre as a hobby and cliques can kill those groups stone dead, seems to be a potential problem with people in general
Yeah a lack of desire to interact with other people. Or to avoid people without sitting down to discuss like adults. It's basically like being kids at school again.
As someone who attended board game clubs and is a founder of one I can tell you that there's nothing bad with people playing with their group only.
People have limited time and they want to use it to the best of their ability.
They don't want to be trapped in a 2-3 hour game with some weird loner who doesn't understand social cues.
Excess cliques can kill your club that's true, but also trying to include everyone can push more introverted people away.
Basically read the room, meet people, and figure out their tastes.
I get ya, though if you're introverted and playing with the same people all the time, then wouldn't you be playing at each others houses anyway?
Sure, you could do that.
But if you want to play new games and have someone explain them to you you'll want to visit a club.
I have 2 groups that never mix, they hardly ever interact even with me and I'm fine with that.
@@matejsebalj7469 That sounds unbearable! How do you put up with that?
@@tmcd5049 Its absolutely great.
Good tips. I think you should also add to the timeframe is that consistency is key. It has to be scheduled every week or whatever, so people know they have to make time for it
Indeed, something to put in ground rules.
Point 1 - While it's taken me a while to figure-out the dynamics, our club is mostly reasonably complex wargames. Personally, I want to have a game setup before hand, both so I know what I'll get, but also so I can read/review the rules. The key is to have this messaging open to everyone.
In your case it works out fine but that's only because of the type of games played.
Great video! I just moved to a new city and will be looking for a club. If I don't find any already running, I may try to get one running myself. The tips were very helpful 👍
I believe point 2--welcoming--is important in anything we do.
Thanks, Luke, for a great list of tips!
Absolutely!
I’m not even a fan of pre-arranged games which are advertised on the main Facebook group to everyone before anyone arrives. That happens at my local group - and without the slightest bit of cliqueyness - but it still reduces the options for people who aren’t in that game. Another bloke and I got burned a bit by this a few months ago where we wound up in two player games together for the first few games (and we hadn’t really brought 2 player games) - and when we suggested joining up with the other pair of people playing, they looked terrified at the prospect.
That said, and hypocritically, I do often say yes when people do ask for players in advance so I don’t wind up in that situation again.
Shame that occurred - our Southampton group does it right, we bring games, say who's up for what, and make a decision - even if I have to be the moderator!
Very good list 👍 I've never understood people who come out just to stay in their cliques. I see it a lot at cons all the time as well.
Also, I would say good hygiene is not one to be underestimated in 3. Ground rules. I had to quit one particular club because it got to be like playing board games in a sewer
Agreed on both!
Great list. RE: starting with filler games, my club tends to gravitate towards starting with the main event, then finishing off with a shorter game based on how much time is left. Sometimes people can be burned out when it's later at night so a lighter game is a better fit for the mood. I see your point about buying time for more people to show up though!
What you said works too, that just tends to come naturally in normal proceedings though.
The timing one is correct. My midtown NYC meetup group starts at 6 PM and is located inside a food court so people can come right after work and eat there. my new jersey group starts a little later, on a Friday night so people who can only come on weekdays and people who can only come on weeknights can both attend, and it's also located inside a low(ish) priced food establishment so people don't have to worry about dinner beforehand.
To be honest, I prefer to not make adjustments for people with children, because they always want the children to come to the games meet up, and then I have to watch my language and I'm never sure what they know and what they don't know. I was recently playing in someone else's group where a woman showed up with her son who was playing the games but she was sitting behind him telling him how to screw people, that he wasn't playing aggressively enough.
Ooo that sounds problematic, I guess one thing I'm grateful of is that none of our clubs allow kids.
Love this vid Luke!! (Cracked up at Picards "shut up wesley" gag you inserted...genius!! 😂)
Honestly I'd love to attend a club you go to. I think you'd help to run it very well, and even if you were just attending to play and not run, I think youd be a laugh to play with.
And THAT for me is MY number 1: the people and their attitude towards others!!
Having the right people present is key imo, but you cant and shouldn't control who can or cannot attend. So imo, People who go to the club, should all agree on the social unwritten rule of:
Either
1) leaving their personal agendas or their personal triggers re: political/religious or other views, at the door.
Or
2) ALLOWING ALL VIEWS and Not judging negatively or excluding people with contrary views or opinions, whatever they may be. Therefore conversation can be respectful but open, honest and without prejudice or malice or judgement against the 'accepted norm'.
I personally prefer the latter, because I always like to learn NEW things and points of view, and I NEVER judge others on their opinions...their actions matter more. Not all people ARE like this I guess, that's why option 1 is also possible.
Nothing wrong with playing with anyone, of any creed, political view, race or gender, particularly when you fundamentally disagree with them. The issue imo arises when "some" individuals dont tolerate contrary views of others....and feel like they need to smash that opinion apart.
Not only kills boardgame groups, but I think any Community. And fundamentally, a boardgame group IS a form of a community.
We need to connect more as people WITH other people. Not isolate.
Anyway..
Just my point of view.
Keep going man, love your vids.
Maybe one day I'll pop down to one of your boardgame groups,...would be a pleasure to meet you! 👊😎👍
I think the safe thing to do with that is just don't bring it up, regardless of agreement or disagreement they're emotional and inflammatory topics, so it's easier just to leave them at the door and let everyone enjoy the hobby.
The trick is to squash it even if you agree with it, cause that's what starts creating a closed shop
A friend of my meetup clubs organizer started to come and could not leave her political opinions at the door. That was a factor in my deciding to leave the group after 3 years and play privately with friends.
That sucks Klaus. . . . Yeah I'm in agreement stuff like political nonsense and the like should be outside the walls of a game club. Games are a good escapism tool and so why burden them with your problems with reality? When it comes to opinions on games, again, people like and hate different things, people shouldn't be belittled for disliking a game someone else likes. I'm certainly blunt on such things as you know and yet I've had instances where it ends up being "it's ok for someone to dis my liked game (which I have no issue with at all), but not the other way around"
This was a great video, really what’s a board game club without people. Sure where all there for a purpose, but the people can be sadly easily forgotten.
Cliques is a rough one. It seems like people tend to stay in their comfort zone and can have a hard time dealing with their anxiety over meeting new people or perhaps fearful that they wasted their time on learning a new game they did not enjoy. Guess there’s a lot of emotional baggage there.
I can’t imagine how to possibly manage it without feeling like you’re herding cats or really without just plainly calling it out for what it is much to the discomfort of others. Much like the alpha gamer, It depends on the person.
I will agree, however, if you don’t stamp it out, this can be a viral situation. Even newcomers who might not initially feel welcome will then start forming cliques on top of cliques.
That's the thing, a little bit is fine, but if it gets out of hand, that's when it ends up being a detriment.
Your number 2 is my number 1. Kinda goes hand in hand actually. And I hard disagree about being on social media. Facebook is the bane of society. Better just to use Discord, which I’m totally surprised you didn’t mention, for chatting and setting up games.
Also, did you just make this list to gripe about clubs you’ve been to 😂
@@shortydancer the problem with discord is there's no way for the public to discover you, so the group won't grow unless someone knows someone already in the group. Like social media or not, it's a way to have a free public face for a group that people can search for
@@ninjabiscuit1095 I’d rather meet up for discovering groups, then discord for chatting planning events and such.
Yes, Discord is only good when you have the club established already and even then that's for playing online games. And we do use Discord for people who want to play video games outside of the club or online BGA, TTS, etc. That's all well and good, but it won't bring new members to your club.
Also ha ha, no it was to love AND gripe about clubs I've been to! :P
You may of mentioned it but creeps can kill peoples interest in coming to a group. I know of 4/5 people who stopped attending the Portsmouth group due to certain peoples behaviour.
Ground rules ftw! The other clubs I'm in now, thankfully are fairly robust enough.
I do think that having a system for arranging games in advance (not in secret) is a dealbreaker for me. I find it actively painful trying to get a consensus on what to play on the hoof and it’s just too much of a lottery giving up an evening and not knowing what I’m going to end up playing. Would you turn up at the cinema, not knowing what films were on?
The problem that can cause is that you end up with the same people dictating games that get played, which isn't conducive to growing the group if it's only small, that exact thing killed a group in my local area
Hence I do at least offer my list of games but I don't dictate what we're playing and who's in it in advance. Also if enough people bring games, chances are you're going to play something you enjoy.
Cinema is something I enjoy solo anyway, so that is my own individually planned event.
Agreed. Especially if I fancy playing a heavy game with a significant teach - if I know I'm playing it I can watch a rules vid. That being said, that goes hand in hand with point 9, knowing the target audience.
I regularly attend two clubs, one which is much more focused on light-mid games and meeting people, where everyone brings a few games and is happy play anything and has a lot of new people regularly. The other, is focused around organising in advance, and often leans towards the heavier games. It's organised through a public excel sheet where people can add games and others can add their names to join the game - it works fantastically, and is made up much more of a core group who attend very regularly.
At our game group most people bring a bag of favorite games and we choose depending on who wants to play what. Or you can bring a few yourself.
@@giuseppesavaglio8136 in my experience though that decision making can be a bit painful and takes up unnecessary time. If games are mostly decided in advance the owner can be setting the game up straight away….and you are still taking a gamble turning up not knowing what you will end up playing
my dream is to organize a board game club within a cafe, so I took a note... maybe someday
You don't have to wait to do that.
Just ask café owners if they would be willing to let you organize a board game event.
It's an extra profit for them, make a facebook event and that's enough.
@@matejsebalj7469 that's an idea. Thank you.
You forgot hygiene. Deodorant. A must. Another thing: cell phones. Man, people are so rude when they whip out their phones mid-move or mid-conversation!
Those are general rules I guess, that can apply to conventions etc. But then you could set those as ground rules.
Do you have a video for Tips on how to teach boardgames?
No I don't but could put that topic on the bench for a future time or podcast.
There are quite a few already out there. I would post links, but TH-cam doesn't really allow that anymore to deter spam marketing.
I recently watched an older one from Shut Up & Sit Down which was very good and also a couple by the dice tower crew, but I have also seen a number of others. I believe the legendary Rodney Smith from Watch It Played also has a series of them. I mean who wouldn't want to teach a game like Rodney; he's the best (sadly, he doesn't teach the Box Flip).
There's a difference between teaching live though and teaching when your have hours and hours to prepare and have editing at your disposal.
@TheBrokenMeeple I agree.
The videos I was talking about are tutorials on effective teaching methods you should use to teach board games to your gaming group/friends on game nights. Regardless of whether you are teaching with editing available or in person, you should spend some time preparing for the teach ahead of time.
I have been a professor for over 20 years (and a board game teacher for over 40 years), and I agree with much of what they presented. By the way, we educators got a crash course on the differences between in person and remote teaching during the pandemic.
The 7 is the reason I will never build a bg club lol
Where can I watch that South Park episode?
If you're in the US (or use a VPN) you can stream every episode for free on the south park studios website
Yeah paramount plus, or vpn or torrents.
I misread the title as “ruining”. 😂
Ha ha well I mean some of the points if not checked will do that 🤣
Super against point 8. We start on time, everyone is there, if you sre not tough luck. Filler are for the END not the beginning.
Agreed!
Feels a little harsh to those who struggle at the start.
Nah you’re taking this too seriously. Filler for the beginning to allow people to be a bit late. Things happen. The pro tip is have everyone let people know they will be late and what time they’ll get there. So you can play a game in the time it takes for them to arrive.
I half agree - with the caveat that if someone’s running late they should be able to message the organisers to let them know and they the organisers can make sure there’s a place for them somewhere when or soon after they arrive.