Was John Kiely warranted? | Clare's season so far | Michael Verney
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- The Independent's Michael Verney was on OTB AM to talk about the weekend's hurling action and gives his opinion on who can beat Limerick (spoiler: it's exactly who you think).
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Smart move, very good management from Kiely.
Spoke directly to the media
But all his players heard what he said.
Any complacency squashed.
Very good group management.
Top man top manager with a die hard humorous side.long may he reign+++
I can see why Kiely might be getting a bit hot under the collar, with X players from other counties pumping up his team , which does get in people's heads and Limerick players are not immune to it , but the frustration with the red cards and X county players pointing out all Limericks fouls long after the game is over , might be part of his rant too , but did not want to say it out loud
Now your having a go at Kiely for things he didn’t say?
@@paulmooney-nl1zt no I did not . I said might in the second point I was making , ,,,,,, might ,,,
@@patrickcoleman7997 sure in that case his frustrations ‘might’ have been about traffic on the way to the match, covid 19 or a row he had with the Mrs. Try staying with things he actually said.
@@paulmooney-nl1zt No ,,,,, I will give my opinion, and you will not tell me what to do or say , we still live in a free country for now , and I AM very sure it had nothing to do with 19 the scam ,
@@patrickcoleman7997 but he gave that interview right after the match? How could he have had time to read or watch what ex county players said about limerick fouls? He was talking directly and clearly about how the championship is much closer and every game is hard despite what the narrative is around limerick being unstoppable. It’s really clear what he was saying.
Hegerty red against conor gleeson, 2021 casey red against conor gleeson seems saint gleeson has a history
How can you say figured out? He basically using a tactic of pulling and tearing at them in the hope of retaliation, slowing the pick outs right down, that’s not hurling. People give out about Limerick, there’s a reason Kilkenny greats love Limerick, they played the same hard hurling and deserved everything they won
Kiely is Mr Johnny Deflection. He's just deflecting from what happened on the field of play. He plays the media like a flute.
Thats part of his job isn't it ?
And to be fair, there are plenty flutes in the media!
kiely was Brilliant.
Ger and Micheal. Please make a stand and save our great game. The enjoyment is so sporadic now in a game of hurling. Winning a contest ball is nearly gone out of the game bar a mis hit to the square. Thank God Tommy Walsh hurled in his era. Game of frees, short puck outs and hand passes. Turning into a slow pedestrian possession based game with little excitement and it's only going one way. Never would I make a cup of tea in the middle of championship match. That's changing. Something has to give. The hand pass is not a skill when's it's played backwards or sideways out of the hand to a man 3 meters away. Dj or an Eddie hand pass on the run to make a score is a skill of the highest quality.
We are in denial about our beloved game. More foot in football that there is a hurl in hurling. Put them all into a box and beat the heads of each other hand passing. We laughed at the ould lads preaching ground hurling and over head striking but they were skills and enjoyable to watch. They will end up being fully right.
Unfortunately Hurling has been regulated for safety reasons, how can you have overhead pulling and ground hurling when they put in a rule any contact with the Helmet is a Red card, take the throw in 30 years ago Hurleys would break now the players are on their knees trying to get Possesion, by the way experts call it evolution of the Game
You probably come from a county that is not winning much at the moment. The hand passing started craze started well over twenty years ago. How is it only becoming an issue now.
Hand passing has become far more prominent with teams looking to keep possession. To be fair you couldn't even call it a hand pass, more a throw. Soccer tactic books infiltrated football now we hurlers are playing copy cat.
Dan. In all fairness when young hurlers look at videos of games from the the Eighties/Nineties they are amazed at how poor the skill levels were then and I, a 73 year, absolutely agree with them. Three and four attempts being made by lads to pick up a ball when often all alone, hardly any first touch. Full backs and goalies belting the sliotar down the field without making any serious attempt to find their man. Do really think Doyle, Maher and Carey would make up the dominant Full Back line now that they made up in the sixties. Forgive me but I think they would not those last five minutes now days and with the really dirty pulls they applied to opposition players they would be very soon banned permanently from the game.
Dan, what was so wrong with any of the Munster games last year or indeed the LK/GY game or the Final. I can remember absolutely absolutely boring Finals as far as '64 and '65, '74 and '08, but they were boring because the most brilliant of the day was sweeping aside the opposition in the same Limerick way did in '20 and '21.
If any team think they can win an All Ireland, in this day and age with first time overhead and ground pulling I think they are mad
@@peadarocoileain902 Fairplay for talking sense on this Peadar, I'm fed up hearing constant negativity about modern hurling.
Davey figured out nothing , Limerick were just not on point that day, you talk bout Waterford missing points are you forgetting gillane missed three goal chances including a penalty another day they will go in
Been saying the same all week, I'd be surprised if Waterford win a game in the championship, if they lose to Cork can see them jus wilting, Limerick haven't left 2nd gear
@@richie3208 correct ritchie
@@jamescoughlan8193 don't get too carried away yet it's the first game of at least 4 , many twists and turns to come , Tipp in Thurles will be very interesting, if Tipp are unbeaten by then
@@patrickcoleman7997 not in the least carried away , I'm a Limerick supporter we know what it is to win and lose , I am saying Limerick were not at their best on Sunday there's more in the tank and still won , most knowledgeable pundit's would agree with that . There's no getting carried away in fact I wouldn't be a bit surprised if there's a draw again Saturday night.
@@jamescoughlan8193 I agree , Limerick were off v Waterford, but the question is were Limerick off because of Davy and his plan to counter Limerick or were Limerick off because they were tired or lost concentration because of the good start they made and got a bit carless eg missed penalty, ,,,time will tell
Give me Gerard Hegarty all day long good players live on the Edge the Limerick team are all big man good referees leave the game flow for example Fergal Horgan there wasn't one dirty stroke pulled in that match last Sunday just people commentating going back on the cameras or he was a bit late leads did anyone watch the All-Ireland Kilkenny and Tipperary when the referee got a belt on the nose things happen on a field
Ah come on Michael, we don't want these young lads ending up with concussions and having serious health problems down the line. Tackles causing head injuries need to be clamped down on by the GAA.
@@seanolaocha940 Who ever got a head injury from a tackle by Hegarty.
@@peadarocoileain902 No one yet, as far as I'm aware. Is that a reason to allow a free-for-all?
@@seanolaocha940 No Sean, But I could name you one Cork Man who has for been hitting peoples'heads with his hurley, going back to 2017 and was at the same thing in the last two games Cork played and not a dicky bird from you or your friends about it. Another Cork Player concussed Sean Finn, with clear and utter intent, and loth and behold not a word about it either. Everybody was criticising Lynch for throwing O'Mahoney in 2021, but Rob Downey hit Cian with his hurley down on the sternum in the lead up to that, but again no criticism of any Cork Player can be entertained.
@@peadarocoileain902 I don't care who has vendettas with who or who you think is dirty. Tackles that are likely to cause concussion or other brain issues need go stop, I don't care who commits them.
Man up Limerick. Ye were schooled. Turn it around.
Unbelievable that Flanagan gets away with that. The Gaa and all their nonsense about protecting players. Useless. Dirty play is now tolerated.
Would that mean you didn't like Bennett's "tackle" on Byrne's? Your narrative is exactly the reason why Limerick supporters feel aggrieved when their players get called out on discipline issues. They're not saints, but they're not playing saints either
Get over yourself you would think that was the first tackle on a player that went unpunished, there were two assaults shown against limerick players last year that went unpunished not even a free, we didn't complain. Get a grip
@@jamescoughlan8193 assaults🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@scoobydee3954 have to add a bit of drama to these things lol
@@jamescoughlan8193 Maybe its ye that need to get over yourselves. If Bennetts tackle was as bad then by all means he should be cited as well and suspended for the following game. I'm calling out the Gaa and their hypocrisy and not Limerick per se. Late head high challenges like that need to be clamped down on or the Gaa will have a serious problem with concussion issues and player welfare. Had it been the opposite and Waterford man done it I would say the same thing.
Kiely was over reacting