True quality TV with real content and depth does have that effect on you - as opposed to the very superficial, rushed and right out silly stuff that we are mostly getting these days. Another true gem from that era is Michael Wood's brilliant and highly captivating 6 part series "In Search of the Trojan War" - I have watched it at least six times by now 😊
Love that bit about setting up the OB camera for the coronation procession - what a great contrast to watch that just after Elizabeth II's funeral, where the BBC were so relieved that their biggest OB ever went without hitch, and with King Charles' coronation coming soon.
Every few years or so, I come across this gem, and always have to watch it through. If anything, it improves with age, a sure sign of quality. So grateful that this was captured while nearly all those involved were still with us, and able to give first -hand, their recollections and insight.
I remember watching this in 1984 and being intrigued by it too. The reconstructions are amazing. I have now watched this fascinating documentary countless times
This is the best documentaries I've ever seen!! Now that's how a documentary explains the full television history of BBC in a very great possible way. It's very interesting to see what BBC did in the pre-war times and seeing how they used two formats (Baird and Marconi-EMI) to see which one is better. And the best thing of all, is the reconstruction of the lost live BBC broadcast of that era, especially the beautiful old music. I've seen this 3 years ago and I would always come back to rewatch it over and over again. What an awesome documentary indeed!! :)
I have to say, the reconstruction scenes of The Three Admirals, Chilton and Thomas and Peter Dawson are PERFECTLY FAULTLESS. It really shows how in 1976, people hadn't lost touch with the past, particularly the 1930's. The experts, and most of the general public were all still living, and were able to recreate it all so PERFECTLY. Can you imagine if this was recreated today? It would be absolutely awful. They'd have a band playing in a 1950's style, and awful stereotypical Charleston dancing, both completely inaccurate for 1936. Even the BBC English would be completely over-exaggerated making them sound ridiculous. And in amongst all of this, they would use talentless ''celebrities'' who wouldn't have a clue what they were doing, with cameras changing shot every split second. Lastly, don't forget the audience of millennials screaming !! In conclusion, we are very lucky that this wonderful documentary was filmed, and the scenes I've mentioned are so wonderfully done, due to proper in-depth research and from the wonderful words of the professionals who were actually THERE !!
@@twiddlybobby Well said!! 👍 Other than that, I also do wish that I could listen to the full version of The Three Admirals, as it is one of my most favourite soundtrack recreations from this documentary ever!! :)
@@omegafilmcorporation Thanks !! Hopefully some film buff out there has the unedited version, possibly someone who works for the BBC? I collect, remaster and upload 78 RPM recordings from the 20's, 30's and 40's, and I would LOVE to know which band is playing the song over Chilton and Thomas's performance. The song is called ''Who?'' but the band?? No idea !
@@twiddlybobby You're welcome!! And yes I do hope a film buff would upload it. Speaking of "Who?", I remembered listening to the song, especially the George Olsen version. It's a very nice song indeed. :)
@@twiddlybobby It's an interesting one. Sounds like its been scored for a film, although surface noise is there. The sound to me suggests 40s rather than 30s. The only British orchestra I can think of which could produce a sound like this would be Jack Hylton in the immediate pre war period. Or maybe Louis Levy's Gaumont British orchestra, but I really know nothing about them. Whatever, it's a brilliantly done piece of reconstruction.
Fun fact: Leslie Mitchell introduced the first nights of the first three British television channels: BBC1 in 1936, ITV in 1955 and BBC2 in 1964. He was still alive when Channel 4 launched in 1982, but they would not use him.
actually, this is from 1 November 1976 and originally went out AFTER the Nine O'Clock News. Of course, I could upload the full programme for 2ombieboy but I'd get into shit over copyright with youtube.
They sadly forgot to really mention the American TV pioneer Philo Farnsworth, who beat the RCA & Zworykin to a working "modern" TV system with CRT-technology 😢 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philo_Farnsworth
As for "Electronic" CRT technology, Philo Farnsworth is beaten to the punch by Guiglielmo Marconi who had devised the all-electronic method *BEFORE* Farnsworth. So, again Farnsworth is *NOT* a true pioneer of TV.
From way back when there were still quality TV-programmes around with really interesting content and depth, who took their time to do things properly, instead of the often very superficial, rushed and even right out silly stuff that we are mostly getting these days.
However the first protetype just demonstrated the principal as the transmitting and receiving disks where on the same axel. It demonstrated that electrical signal could be be modulated by light and turned back into light. Onli when he could sicronise both discs remotely would you have true TV.
Shame that the tracking was _just_ out! I often preferred older or pricier VHS machines that tracking could be manually adjusted - often not in the same place auto tracking
Even the BBC perpetuating a myth about its own history. The initial film of Adele Dixon singing is not the opening of the BBC television service, which was never recorded. It is from a special closed transmission by the Baird company for the start of the Radiolympia exhibition.
yep in 50 years time they'll be saying crappy 4K UHD OLed TV's, how'd they watch anything on that. It will probably be holographic TV by then.@@radioandtvmemories6178
33:30 Blumlein was mentioned here in the development of TV but A.D. Blumlein himself would have another claim to fame as the inventor of phonograph reproduction in *STEREO!*
"Electric information comes from all directions at once and when your information comes from all directions simultaneously you're living in an acoustic world. The acoustic world has no continuity, no homogeneity, no connections and no stasis; everything is changing. Our ancestors lived in a mythic world because they had none of the means of literate classification. A myth is a speeded up following of a process. We live mythically ourselves so that we understand their myths for the first time. You should know the stakes are; the stakes are our civilization versus tribalism and it's a considerable revolution to have been through twenty-five hundred years of phonetic literacy, only to encounter the end of that road." - Marshall McLuhan “And this is the old myth of Narcissus. The word Narcissus means narcosis, numbness and drugged; and Narcissus was drugged into thinking that that image outside himself was somebody else. Narcissus did not fall in love with his own image, he thought it was somebody else. And the same with us, in our technology and gadgetry and gimmickry and so on, we don’t think that is merely a part of our own physical organism extended out there, we’re like Narcissus, completely numb. Now when we put out a new part of ourselves, extend a new part of ourselves by technology into the environment we protect ourselves by numbing that area. The more I looked at this the more I had difficulty explaining why people ignored it.” Marshall McLuhan
television was not invented by any single individual in any nation. it was a series of people from the u.s., the u.k., france and russia. all were equally important and without any one of them it never would've happened.
Just a swift mention of his company, but unfortunately nothing about how he beat Zworykin and RCA, who would later "borrow" his technology. There are other documentaries around here on TH-cam though about this race and unfair competition 😉
I have to say, the reconstruction scenes of The Three Admirals, Chilton and Thomas and Peter Dawson are PERFECTLY FAULTLESS. It really shows how in 1976, people hadn't lost touch with the past, particularly the 1930's. The experts, and most of the general public were all still living, and were able to recreate it all so PERFECTLY. Can you imagine if this was recreated today? It would be absolutely awful. They'd have a band playing in a 1950's style, and awful stereotypical Charleston dancing, both completely inaccurate for 1936. Even the BBC English would be completely over-exaggerated making them sound ridiculous. And in amongst all of this, they would use talentless ''celebrities'' who wouldn't have a clue what they were doing, with cameras changing shot every split second. Lastly, don't forget the audience of millennials screaming !! In conclusion, we are very lucky that this wonderful documentary was filmed, and the scenes I've mentioned are so wonderfully done, due to proper in-depth research and from the wonderful words of the professionals who were actually THERE !!
th-cam.com/video/1OwSCCxBUvA/w-d-xo.html you also have Helen McKay singing 'Here's looking at you', this was for the Radiolympia conference broadcasted on television sets at the conference. The first woman to sing on a live television broadcast
It should be made clear that, this is the British story in the saga. Here, in the U.S., things were happening too. Western Television Corp. of Chicago, headed by the fellow named Sanabria, was making great strides similarly to those of Baird's. He was transmitting and selling sets from rather early-on. It is rumored on fairly good authority, that no less than Al Capone (in the business of general criminal enterprises) together with Frank Nitti ("The Enforcer" for said enterprises) once paid a friendly visit to Sanabria, this to see what was up and to determine if Sanabria and his company's advancements might have been exploitable, to the noble ends of the furthering of progressive criminality. This and many more events-similar, that were occurring simultaneously here in our huge Nation, should be highlighted as they were for over there. Zombieboy II should be congratulated in his succeeded effort, in presenting this essential bit of historical record. And so we do. (Too and with sincerity, we hope by now that he has recovered from his shall we say, malaise?)
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An utter delight! My dad Stephen McCormack was a studio manager at AP when the TV service recommenced in June 1946....
i watched this documentary 5 months ago and i'am watching again.
True quality TV with real content and depth does have that effect on you - as opposed to the very superficial, rushed and right out silly stuff that we are mostly getting these days.
Another true gem from that era is Michael Wood's brilliant and highly captivating 6 part series "In Search of the Trojan War" - I have watched it at least six times by now 😊
Love that bit about setting up the OB camera for the coronation procession - what a great contrast to watch that just after Elizabeth II's funeral, where the BBC were so relieved that their biggest OB ever went without hitch, and with King Charles' coronation coming soon.
Every few years or so, I come across this gem, and always have to watch it through. If anything, it improves with age, a sure sign of quality. So grateful that this was captured while nearly all those involved were still with us, and able to give first -hand, their recollections and insight.
I remember watching this in 1984 and being intrigued by it too. The reconstructions are amazing. I have now watched this fascinating documentary countless times
This is the best documentaries I've ever seen!! Now that's how a documentary explains the full television history of BBC in a very great possible way. It's very interesting to see what BBC did in the pre-war times and seeing how they used two formats (Baird and Marconi-EMI) to see which one is better. And the best thing of all, is the reconstruction of the lost live BBC broadcast of that era, especially the beautiful old music. I've seen this 3 years ago and I would always come back to rewatch it over and over again. What an awesome documentary indeed!! :)
I have to say, the reconstruction scenes of The Three Admirals, Chilton and Thomas and Peter Dawson are PERFECTLY FAULTLESS. It really shows how in 1976, people hadn't lost touch with the past, particularly the 1930's. The experts, and most of the general public were all still living, and were able to recreate it all so PERFECTLY.
Can you imagine if this was recreated today? It would be absolutely awful. They'd have a band playing in a 1950's style, and awful stereotypical Charleston dancing, both completely inaccurate for 1936. Even the BBC English would be completely over-exaggerated making them sound ridiculous. And in amongst all of this, they would use talentless ''celebrities'' who wouldn't have a clue what they were doing, with cameras changing shot every split second. Lastly, don't forget the audience of millennials screaming !!
In conclusion, we are very lucky that this wonderful documentary was filmed, and the scenes I've mentioned are so wonderfully done, due to proper in-depth research and from the wonderful words of the professionals who were actually THERE !!
@@twiddlybobby Well said!! 👍
Other than that, I also do wish that I could listen to the full version of The Three Admirals, as it is one of my most favourite soundtrack recreations from this documentary ever!! :)
@@omegafilmcorporation Thanks !! Hopefully some film buff out there has the unedited version, possibly someone who works for the BBC? I collect, remaster and upload 78 RPM recordings from the 20's, 30's and 40's, and I would LOVE to know which band is playing the song over Chilton and Thomas's performance. The song is called ''Who?'' but the band?? No idea !
@@twiddlybobby You're welcome!! And yes I do hope a film buff would upload it. Speaking of "Who?", I remembered listening to the song, especially the George Olsen version. It's a very nice song indeed. :)
@@twiddlybobby It's an interesting one. Sounds like its been scored for a film, although surface noise is there. The sound to me suggests 40s rather than 30s. The only British orchestra I can think of which could produce a sound like this would be Jack Hylton in the immediate pre war period. Or maybe Louis Levy's Gaumont British orchestra, but I really know nothing about them. Whatever, it's a brilliantly done piece of reconstruction.
What an absolutely fascinating programme. Thanks so much for posting!
Fun fact: Leslie Mitchell introduced the first nights of the first three British television channels: BBC1 in 1936, ITV in 1955 and BBC2 in 1964. He was still alive when Channel 4 launched in 1982, but they would not use him.
Dennis Tuohy introduced BBC2 in 1964.
I remember watching this as a 19 year old with my mum and dad at home.
actually, this is from 1 November 1976 and originally went out AFTER the Nine O'Clock News. Of course, I could upload the full programme for 2ombieboy but I'd get into shit over copyright with youtube.
They sadly forgot to really mention the American TV pioneer Philo Farnsworth, who beat the RCA & Zworykin to a working "modern" TV system with CRT-technology 😢
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philo_Farnsworth
It's because Farnsworth came *AFTER* Baird so he wasn't truly a pioneer.
As for "Electronic" CRT technology, Philo Farnsworth is beaten to the punch by Guiglielmo Marconi who had devised the all-electronic method *BEFORE* Farnsworth. So, again Farnsworth is *NOT* a true pioneer of TV.
The documentary ist 37 years old … how far we came to TH-cam …
VHS Record in 1984, but the year of the Documentary in 1976
47 years old
From way back when there were still quality TV-programmes around with really interesting content and depth, who took their time to do things properly, instead of the often very superficial, rushed and even right out silly stuff that we are mostly getting these days.
However the first protetype just demonstrated the principal as the transmitting and receiving disks where on the same axel. It demonstrated that electrical signal could be be modulated by light and turned back into light. Onli when he could sicronise both discs remotely would you have true TV.
Shame that the tracking was _just_ out!
I often preferred older or pricier VHS machines that tracking could be manually adjusted - often not in the same place auto tracking
HDTV in 1936! Whoa!
Dinah Sheridan. My god what a beautiful girl she always was.
Even the BBC perpetuating a myth about its own history. The initial film of Adele Dixon singing is not the opening of the BBC television service, which was never recorded. It is from a special closed transmission by the Baird company for the start of the Radiolympia exhibition.
Absolutely fascinating!
Their definition of HD and ours today differ slightly
By about 700 "lines".
After 30 lines, 405 lines is "high definition". It's all relative
yep in 50 years time they'll be saying crappy 4K UHD OLed TV's, how'd they watch anything on that. It will probably be holographic TV by then.@@radioandtvmemories6178
33:30 Blumlein was mentioned here in the development of TV but A.D. Blumlein himself would have another claim to fame as the inventor of phonograph reproduction in *STEREO!*
"Electric information comes from all directions at once and when your information comes from all directions simultaneously you're living in an acoustic world. The acoustic world has no continuity, no homogeneity, no connections and no stasis; everything is changing. Our ancestors lived in a mythic world because they had none of the means of literate classification. A myth is a speeded up following of a process. We live mythically ourselves so that we understand their myths for the first time.
You should know the stakes are; the stakes are our civilization versus tribalism and it's a considerable revolution to have been through twenty-five hundred years of phonetic literacy, only to encounter the end of that road." - Marshall McLuhan
“And this is the old myth of Narcissus. The word Narcissus means narcosis, numbness and drugged; and Narcissus was drugged into thinking that that image outside himself was somebody else. Narcissus did not fall in love with his own image, he thought it was somebody else. And the same with us, in our technology and gadgetry and gimmickry and so on, we don’t think that is merely a part of our own physical organism extended out there, we’re like Narcissus, completely numb. Now when we put out a new part of ourselves, extend a new part of ourselves by technology into the environment we protect ourselves by numbing that area. The more I looked at this the more I had difficulty explaining why people ignored it.” Marshall McLuhan
television was not invented by any single individual in any nation. it was a series of people from the u.s., the u.k., france and russia. all were equally important and without any one of them it never would've happened.
The nazis had tv first. The Berlin Olympics were televised. Fact!
Any mention of Farnsworth?
Just a swift mention of his company, but unfortunately nothing about how he beat Zworykin and RCA, who would later "borrow" his technology.
There are other documentaries around here on TH-cam though about this race and unfair competition 😉
Good show
I have to say, the reconstruction scenes of The Three Admirals, Chilton and Thomas and Peter Dawson are PERFECTLY FAULTLESS. It really shows how in 1976, people hadn't lost touch with the past, particularly the 1930's. The experts, and most of the general public were all still living, and were able to recreate it all so PERFECTLY.
Can you imagine if this was recreated today? It would be absolutely awful. They'd have a band playing in a 1950's style, and awful stereotypical Charleston dancing, both completely inaccurate for 1936. Even the BBC English would be completely over-exaggerated making them sound ridiculous. And in amongst all of this, they would use talentless ''celebrities'' who wouldn't have a clue what they were doing, with cameras changing shot every split second. Lastly, don't forget the audience of millennials screaming !!
In conclusion, we are very lucky that this wonderful documentary was filmed, and the scenes I've mentioned are so wonderfully done, due to proper in-depth research and from the wonderful words of the professionals who were actually THERE !!
And a cameo by Dr. Who.
Who is the lady singing at. the beginning, and what is the song she is performing? Does anyone know?
th-cam.com/video/9Rpfek-F8Rw/w-d-xo.html here you go, it's Adele Dixon. This clip is from the 1936 documentary Television comes to London
th-cam.com/video/1OwSCCxBUvA/w-d-xo.html you also have Helen McKay singing 'Here's looking at you', this was for the Radiolympia conference broadcasted on television sets at the conference. The first woman to sing on a live television broadcast
It should be made clear that, this is the British story in the saga.
Here, in the U.S., things were happening too.
Western Television Corp. of Chicago, headed by the fellow named Sanabria, was making great strides similarly to those of Baird's.
He was transmitting and selling sets from rather early-on.
It is rumored on fairly good authority, that no less than Al Capone (in the business of general criminal enterprises) together with Frank Nitti ("The Enforcer" for said enterprises) once paid a friendly visit to Sanabria, this to see what was up and to determine if Sanabria and his company's advancements might have been exploitable, to the noble ends of the furthering of progressive criminality.
This and many more events-similar, that were occurring simultaneously here in our huge Nation, should be highlighted as they were for over there.
Zombieboy II should be congratulated in his succeeded effort, in presenting this essential bit of historical record. And so we do.
(Too and with sincerity, we hope by now that he has recovered from his shall we say, malaise?)
They could've done *WITHOUT* the cringeworthy performance segments and concentrated more on the technical advances instead.
42:43... that woman must have. been Margaret Thatchers ghost...
Anyone know why TH-cam is make the “Subscribe” smaller?
This is the unedited 1976 version :
th-cam.com/video/ybbfWyQwogg/w-d-xo.html
Thanks 👍
Clearly from 1976, not 1984.
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I will never tire of the era when it was ok to be white and Britain could just be white Britain. A beautiful era never to come again.
BBC propoganda during Cold War. Great study.