@Mike Taylor And respect grown men who pay bills instead of intimidating college kids with scholarships. Coaches with big egos and power in college always seem to have problems in the NFL. You can't bully grown men with paychecks...... welcome to the NFL
There’s a reason why college coaches keep failing at this level When you can’t handpick your team and rely on talent to get you to 10+ wins and have to actually establish everything yourself, it starts to hit the fan 🤷🏾♂️
He's a bad dude and a bad coach....The guy giving that answer is getting paid a 6 figure salary by ESPN. I could have given that answer for half the price.
@@grinningchicken Yes. Hue is the worst HC in NFL history by light years, and that's factoring in Urban's incompetency, lack of integrity, and foolishness. The media does not hold Hue is such a negative light because of social concerns.
@@radaction5743 Urban Meyer one of the most decorated coaches in college history was so awful that he lost the locker room in less than a season. The media had nothing to do with the fact that it took several season for the Browns locker to turn on Jackson. What you are hinting at but not saying is that Jackson was hired and kept because he was black. Jackson turned the raiders 31 ranked offense to a top ten offense with with Jason Campbell and Mcfadden and Heyword Bey all considered busts. Then the Raiders crashed back to 28th after he left. Then Jackson took Andy Dalton who had thrown 36 int in the 2 years before Jackson arrived trimmed it to 24. The issue with the Brown was they were a 3-12 team that began actively dumping their talent. Jackson didn't adjust his game plan to the fact that he had 3rd string QBs When he had starters his record was 2-5-1 and 8-8 with the Raiders Thats why he isn't considered as bad as Urban. Not because he is black. Everything isn't about race.
@@bencritterson640 Orlovsky is an excellent hard working & insightful analyst for ESPN - but as a NFL quarterback, he was never any better than lackluster. I saw him play for the Lions a lot and he never performed well for them. Look at his statistics at the position & you'll see what I mean.
They need to have this guy Paul Finebaum on the set more often he's hilarious.. he has a way of saying things so facetiously.. but he shows no emotions when he says it 😂😂😂
This is why college coaches can’t be in the discussion for the best overall football coach ever. It’s much easier to have success at big programs where you can hand-pick your teams vs. having to rely on a GM to draft well + sign free agents.
Agree, Nick Saban was so much different he lost as an NFL Coach because he lost, no issues with anyone like Urban Meyer but I agree coaching the NFL is a different world than College Football
FACTS. Only 3 coaches ever have won both a NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP and a Super Bowl. One of them (Jimmy Johnson) had a chance to be the best coach ever but Jerry Jones screwed it up, was replaced him by the 2nd to accomplish it (Switzer), & the 3rd is still coaching in Seattle.
Urban Meyer's not travelling with the team and being exposed for receiving a lap dance from a lil' bimbo is what lost him any credibility and moral authority that he had left with the players and coaches at Jacksonville. There is no way that he'd be able to regain any trust of theirs - if he had any in the first place - with that...
At least with Caldwell they’ll have identity on offense. But as a Titans fan I hate to say this, but the Jags have go get Byron Leftwitch! He would work wonders with Trevor.! Leftwitch got 4K yards and 30 Touchdowns out of Winston in Tampa.
I say that as a Colts fan as well. Caldwell was a good coach. He took the Colts to the Super Bowl. It's not his fault Peyton Manning couldn't recover from his shoulder surgery with a backup named Curtis Painter behind him.
@@danieldougan269 Caldwell got screwed in Detroit. He took the Lions (29-51 in the 5 years leading up to his hire) and finished with a 36-28 record and two playoff visits in four years. For Detroit, that's legendary, but for the figure heads, it wasn't good enough. They said they needed to "take the next step" when they fired him. After 4 years that's SORT of reasonable, but he had the team trending up. They needed to keep him around and maybe consider different assistants or building some depth in FA or the draft to continue to build on what he started. Instead they fired the most successful coach the city has had since Wayne Fontes, brought in Quinn's buddy from NE who completely lost the locker room, traded away our best talents, and regressed to worse than it was before Caldwell got here.
@Mike Taylor blm thugs hmmmmm last time I checked it was the white supremacist thugs and trumplican thugs that stormed the capital and tried to overthrow the govt
@Mike Taylor normally I’m skeptical. I don’t think BLM has anything do with this but okay. I don’t know a lot about Urban to be honest. Everything I have heard about him is he is dirty. He left two schools with a less than stellar reputation. How can you explain away the video of him getting grounded by a girl in a video that wasn’t his wife? On TV he seems like a great coach but what people say about him is a different story.
@@BoleDaPole Detroit is a great sport city. Just in a slump. As for the lions, and as a young lions fan, I feel like theirs at least hope for the Dan Campbell regime
@Fred Jammerson "why are there Lions fans"? As a native Detroiter I'll tell you why there's Lions fans. Get ready. There's Lions fans because the people of Michigan who support them are delusional, hard-up for entertainment people. 2. They know damned well that the no-good, egotistical, and self-important Ford family has been screwing them for 60 years, but don't have the backbone to acknowledge they've been had. 3. Lions fans and ownership have such low expectations that Sheila Ford Hamp jumped in the arms of Dan Campbell after they won their first game! 4. Brilliant and courageous Detroit media have exposed the Ford Family as frauds yet the fans threatened the lives of sports writers who have told them the truth. I can go on and on, but my fingers are getting tired!!
A few years ago, maybe more than a few, Meyer was head coach in college (possibly Florida?) and he got asked a question he didn't like at a press conference. A lot of coaches would snap back, but Meyer took it further, insulting the reporter, and threatening him with being ousted forever from the press conferences. Told me all I needed to know about Urban Meyer. People brushed it under the rug because he won games, but when the winning stops so does your job.
Are you talking about him getting into it with Jeremy Fowler? That was because Jeremy lied about one of the players. It’s on TH-cam. “If that was my son.. me and you would be going at it right now.”
Coaches know their job security is nearly entirely determined by the minimum level of winning the powers that be will accept. In any sport, one team winning always means another team losing. Winning head coaches get new & more lucrative contracts while losing head coaches end up having to look for another job - with a coach's level of character seldom a significant part of the equation.
As a Jags fan, no love lost here. The sad thing is that even though we got rid of him, our team was trash before him. We need a complete overhaul AND Jesus 😂😂
As a Niners fan, I've got to tell you, you need to get rid of Baalke too. I'm still incredulous after what he did to our team that he not another GM job.
@@michaelnadler596 I'll second that. The atrocious 2012 draft, his weird fascination with drafting mid- and late-round picks with ACL injuries, the power struggle with Coach Harbaugh... he's not the guy you want trying to create a well-rounded roster.
ESPN sucks but Dan Orlovsky is freaking amazing. The guy is always spot-on with his analysis and takes. He is a star. Why does this dude not have his own show? If I was an NFL Owner I would tell him to name is price to coach my team.
Trust me, Dan Orlovsky knows bad football better than anyone else so if he says Urban Meyer is a bad coach he is right because he really knows what it means to be bad in the NFL
And as a Black Man myself I’m not saying those coaches should be hired because they are Black. I’m saying it because those two coaches are offensive minded and would be great for Trevor because I feel Trevor has the talent to be P.Manning. And I’m a Titans fan saying this
@@xbotnpc420 Pederson please no!!! He's another moron in my opinion, but Leftwhich being a ex first round pick by the Jags it make sense. Second will be Bienemy, but Shad don't want a Black coach.
Winning solves everything. I think we can all agree that Urban Meyer is probably a questionable dude but if they were at least 7-6 or 8-5 the headlines would be different.
Dan: Tell em wood! Dan need his own detail for football btw. I love that the NFL hired a real X’s and O’s guy. Not that nobody else isn’t that he’s just the best
Youre always under more scrutiny at the pro level. I think the most damning part is instead of college kids hes dealing with veteran athletes/coaches who werent afraid to stick up for themselves and clearly werent going to put up with the level of toxicity he brought.
Imagine this dude on a college campus again after that video of him trying to check some 20 year olds oil if any university touches him they’re out of their minds
I somewhat agree if you can hire clowns like Urban Meyer you can turn a blind eye to Bieniemy. But I don't necessarily agree with hiring a coordinator that coaches the same side of the ball as there head coach. It makes you wonder every time the offence take the field is that Bieniemy drawing up the play's or is it Andy Reid? For example look at Matt Patricia and Matt Nagy both were consider "Amazing Coordinators" when they where with New England and Kansas City, but once they became head coaches they were absolutely terrible.
Eric Bienemy is brad Childress 2.0 Whichbis not bad but not great. He simply doesn’t interview well. He was our running back coach with Vikings before taking chiefs job. His PR relations need work. That’s half of Eric’s issue in these jobs. Personally I would get coached in how to interview and public speaking like a dale Carnegie course. They would really help Eric in his interviewing process. He would have had Texan job if he interviewed well. May not seem great but it’s a better job than Jets, Carolina or jags. It has a rabid fan base. A good history. Just looking for coach to set right culture. The guy they hired from ravens just beat the chargers and won two straight in a rebuilding year. Can’t ask for more. Lots of young players getting better. Look at jags and jets in comparison Texans are improving those two are train wrecks waiting to run off the tracks!!’
Yesterday most of the TV experts were humming and hawing about how Urban Meyer was suboptimal but maybe he could turn it around. The second he got fired they all got brave and put on their big-boy pants and started saying how they're always said he was a cad and a bounder. It's funny how they found their moral indignation as soon as he lost any power over access to his team.
college coaching is about hogging the recruiting and having all the power. In NFL you have 1 draft(7rounds) and everybody goes to the same well. You are an employee like everybody else.
I wish orlovsky and SAS on tomorrow with Tebow, that would be a great debate, but it wont happen, plus finebaum..As long as it was professional..All are good at their jobs
It will be interesting to see if Meyer responds publicly to this firing and all the criticism he's gotten over his behavior in Jacksonville. If he does respond, will he be contrite & humble or will he continue, as he always has in the past, to blame others for the situation he now finds himself in? If he does the latter, the whole world will come down on him like a ton of bricks.
@@Paulafan5 True, but Meyer is not one of them. He's not well suited for the NFL. The things he's good at (team control, player development, recruiting, etc.) don't matter as much at the NFL level. You need to be more of a CEO type that knows how to roll with the punches and delegate. That's because players have a lot of power in the NFL and often make more money than everyone but the team owners. You can't treat them like kids and expect it to go well - they're high-value, high-performing professionals! And then he has all these questionable moral problems, which just makes his rigid, controlling approach even more laughable at the professional level.
I agree with every point but I think the most obvious is he simply wanted to get fired realizing he was way over his head and his coaching style would NEVER a succeed in the NFL….now he gets what he wanted and will keep all if not most of what he owed on his contract…plain and simple…
I compare this to an NBA team hiring Bob Knight. One of those guys would have beaten the "F" out of him very quickly if he tried to intimidate them like he could some college kid.
For a man to call another man 'soulless' is, just, wow! That's deep, man. You better really know a fellow to make that claim, because that is more than journalism and is getting really personal. There's no other way around that.
yeah that statement is a bit much tbh, has dan ever had personal interaction with urban if not than just hear say. Then he just wanted to go viral saying this and thats a pos move
The venom is nasty. I don't like Meyer and he deserved to get fired, but there is real hate for Meyer with some ESPN personalities. Did any of them honestly think the Jags would have been even an okay team?
Hindsight is 20/20 and listening to finebaum is about as sickening as it gets. 3 years ago Harbaugh was asked about his record vs osu and Meyer and Harbaugh said for some reason controversy always follows him...everyone shouldve listened then.
I'm surprised he wasn't fired after the Ohio fiasco. What HC stays in the in a city or state while your team flies home after a loss? Then the world finds out that you stayed to party in a college bar with some young lady that wasn't your wife? Not a good look. Now his daughter wants to rant and rave like her daddy was done wrong. Give it 3 years and he'll be on some college's sideline. College sports is just as dirty as Urban is.
Maybe he's a bad NFL coach, but this has been the worst overall team in the NFL for over a decade. In the past 11 seasons, the Jags 2nd best season was 6 wins. once. So 9 of the past 11 seasons, they've finished with 5 wins or less. 12 - 36 record the previous 3 seasons, including 1 win last year. And this is in the AFC South, the worst division in football. Zero Super Bowl appearances for any team in the division since 2009, when Indy lost by 14 to the Saints. They haven't even had a 12 win team in the regular season since 2012.
Urban Meyer didn't even fly back with the team after a loss. He stayed behind and was pictured at a bar....smh. He should've just stayed in college football.
Paul Finebaum hit the nail on the head… Shaud Kahn is the Ultimate problem. You didn’t do any homework on this coaching hire. Again you set your franchise back. “The Jacksonville Jaguars” Mistake Prone and lovin it since 1970…😂
Even in Urban’s apology to the city of Jacksonville….he didn’t even apologize to his players, coaches, and staff…the ones that was directly affected the most
Finebaum calling NFL owners morons ... will be the quote of the year... thank you sir.... Meyer should go to church on Xmas because he's lucky he's not spending the new year in a body cast... there was a legit chance a player would have whipped the stupid out of him. MEYER HAS A GUARDIIAN ANGEL.
Only college coaches to make it in the NFL Pete Carroll and Jimmy Johnson (Barry Switzer just stood there). Urban was doomed to fail. Urban's next stop a D II or D III college.
"Hes a soulless man". Man that's a damning statement.
He makes chip kelly look like the pope lol
he not wrong tho
Yoo fav line soulless man haha
REALLY?? THAT STATEMENT FROM PAUL WAS VERY TELLING ABOUT HIS OWN SOUL.
I love hearing Finebaum crush guys. Only when it's worthy of course, and Paul tends to only do it when it's worthy. Case in point, Urban Meyer.
Should’ve been called “Urban Fired” instead of “Meyer fired” Come on ESPN, you had it on the plate
"He's a soulless man, a liar and a fraud. I wish him well" BRAH! LOL!
This kind of stuff make espn worth watching
Utter destruction 🤣
😂😂😂😂
@Mike Taylor keep defending an abuser, great look.
@Mike Taylor And respect grown men who pay bills instead of intimidating college kids with scholarships. Coaches with big egos and power in college always seem to have problems in the NFL. You can't bully grown men with paychecks...... welcome to the NFL
I completely understand his daughter defending her dad but she was delusional for saying people wanted him to fail. This dude failed himself.
She is 100% right
@@roybatty6368 The apologist never fail to show up. You people always put power on a pedestal. Cherish and adore narcissism.
There’s a reason why college coaches keep failing at this level
When you can’t handpick your team and rely on talent to get you to 10+ wins and have to actually establish everything yourself, it starts to hit the fan 🤷🏾♂️
He's a bad dude and a bad coach....The guy giving that answer is getting paid a 6 figure salary by ESPN. I could have given that answer for half the price.
@@uyd I mean what else you wanted him to say
Pete Carroll did pretty good
Good college coaches are essentially just good recruiters and fundraisers.
@@YoGiveMeMyMoney Pete Carroll and Kingsbury, but those are a select few. Many of the others have failed
Bro really signed a 5 year contract and didn’t even make it one year
He didn’t even come close to winning five games either lmao
Paul Finebaum was rubbing his hands like birdman today lmaooo
Fr tho 😂
The fact the Hue Jackson could go 3-36-1 and have less controversy show how much of a epic dumpster fire the Urban was.
I’d rather hue over urban
The media covered for Hue Jackson out of social concern.
@@radaction5743 The media covered up Hue kicking people, missing team flights and groping 20 years olds?
@@grinningchicken Yes. Hue is the worst HC in NFL history by light years, and that's factoring in Urban's incompetency, lack of integrity, and foolishness. The media does not hold Hue is such a negative light because of social concerns.
@@radaction5743 Urban Meyer one of the most decorated coaches in college history was so awful that he lost the locker room in less than a season.
The media had nothing to do with the fact that it took several season for the Browns locker to turn on Jackson.
What you are hinting at but not saying is that Jackson was hired and kept because he was black.
Jackson turned the raiders 31 ranked offense to a top ten offense with with Jason Campbell and Mcfadden and Heyword Bey all considered busts.
Then the Raiders crashed back to 28th after he left.
Then Jackson took Andy Dalton who had thrown 36 int in the 2 years before Jackson arrived trimmed it to 24.
The issue with the Brown was they were a 3-12 team that began actively dumping their talent. Jackson didn't adjust his game plan to the fact that he had 3rd string QBs
When he had starters his record was 2-5-1 and 8-8 with the Raiders
Thats why he isn't considered as bad as Urban. Not because he is black. Everything isn't about race.
Seriously tho. What coach kicks a player let alone a kicker in a preseason game no less 🤦🏾♂️
Thats like putting lawrence in an armbar pregame lmfao
Noticed he kicked a licker he wouldn't do that to Josh Allen lol
@@mikeedwards7619 Honestly, my first thought was "of course it was a kicker, he'd NEVER do that to any other player on the team".
Even kicking him mid stretch, it's already a scumbag move but you could have seriously hurt him! I don't care how poorly he had been playing
Let's not forget Bobby Knight and he throws chairs at his players
I lost it when he said Urban was boo’ed up with some girl at the bar 🤣💀👻
OOOF, when Orlovsky said “you lose more in the NFL…. Than you ever did in college” you can feel the Detroit lions😂😂😂
Dan would've never run out of the back of the endzone in college
@@mgoblue9389 wouldn’t have gone 0-16 either
He speaks from experience indeed 😂
Hahah…👏🏽 I’m weeeak off this man.
Hahah…
“Also being finessed are the NY Jets”
The Cleveland Browns
The Miami Dolphins
The Cincinnati Bengals
@@bencritterson640 Orlovsky is an excellent hard working & insightful analyst for ESPN - but as a NFL quarterback, he was never any better than lackluster.
I saw him play for the Lions a lot and he never performed well for them. Look at his statistics at the position & you'll see what I mean.
Interestingly, Paul Finebaum called this a while back when they first hired him
Yes he did.
They need to have this guy Paul Finebaum on the set more often he's hilarious.. he has a way of saying things so facetiously.. but he shows no emotions when he says it 😂😂😂
Finebaum is a legend bro he just does college though
Finebaum has seen it all
He is just a homer
@@ellamcclanahan9811 legend?? lol
finebaum is a 🤡
This is why college coaches can’t be in the discussion for the best overall football coach ever. It’s much easier to have success at big programs where you can hand-pick your teams vs. having to rely on a GM to draft well + sign free agents.
Agree, Nick Saban was so much different he lost as an NFL Coach because he lost, no issues with anyone like Urban Meyer but I agree coaching the NFL is a different world than College Football
FACTS. Only 3 coaches ever have won both a NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP and a Super Bowl. One of them (Jimmy Johnson) had a chance to be the best coach ever but Jerry Jones screwed it up, was replaced him by the 2nd to accomplish it (Switzer), & the 3rd is still coaching in Seattle.
Good college coaches are essentially good recruiters
SportsSpeak73 The key to those success stories at least with Johnson and Carroll, they knew how to adapt.
@@scruffd0g193 lol Nick Saban quit on the Dolphins
Urban Meyer's not travelling with the team and being exposed for receiving a lap dance from a lil' bimbo is what lost him any credibility and moral authority that he had left with the players and coaches at Jacksonville. There is no way that he'd be able to regain any trust of theirs - if he had any in the first place - with that...
Do you think he was clubbing in college as well
Really not a big deal
@@0Shane13 Clearly was he lost the respect in the locker room and respect in the media and lost his job 😂
@@ActualDialUp three time national champ. And lead Ohio state and Utah to undefeated seasons. Put some respect on his name.
True
Now we are beginning to questions if he physically or mentally abused any of the college kids in his coaching days
That's dumb
Yes. I think this should be a major concern. Is this standard in college football? Intimidation and abse of the plalyers?
@@donnarobbins2117 Uh yea, since the sport was invented lol
things are gunna start flowing out
Been out there a long time
A nice, relatively quiet conversation with no shouting for a change.
Are they doing the show in a library 🤔
@@jamesblunt1915 feels that way without Stephen A
**
Would literally pay money to see Urban Meyer try to kick Damien Woody
Additional side note: As a Lions fan, I think Kahn should look at Jim Caldwell.
At least with Caldwell they’ll have identity on offense. But as a Titans fan I hate to say this, but the Jags have go get Byron Leftwitch! He would work wonders with Trevor.! Leftwitch got 4K yards and 30 Touchdowns out of Winston in Tampa.
@@jakjones8680 yeah I can see Byron Leftwich becoming a HC of the Jags
@@jakjones8680 Caldwell, leftwich, or maybe pedderson seem the best choices right now
I say that as a Colts fan as well. Caldwell was a good coach. He took the Colts to the Super Bowl. It's not his fault Peyton Manning couldn't recover from his shoulder surgery with a backup named Curtis Painter behind him.
@@danieldougan269 Caldwell got screwed in Detroit. He took the Lions (29-51 in the 5 years leading up to his hire) and finished with a 36-28 record and two playoff visits in four years. For Detroit, that's legendary, but for the figure heads, it wasn't good enough. They said they needed to "take the next step" when they fired him. After 4 years that's SORT of reasonable, but he had the team trending up. They needed to keep him around and maybe consider different assistants or building some depth in FA or the draft to continue to build on what he started. Instead they fired the most successful coach the city has had since Wayne Fontes, brought in Quinn's buddy from NE who completely lost the locker room, traded away our best talents, and regressed to worse than it was before Caldwell got here.
I feel sorry for Urban’s kids hearing people what they think of your dad. This is who your dad really is. 🤦♂️
My guess is Urban Meyer's kids are perfectly aware of who he is and are not all that surprised about what went down in Jacksonville.
@Mike Taylor blm thugs hmmmmm last time I checked it was the white supremacist thugs and trumplican thugs that stormed the capital and tried to overthrow the govt
@Mike Taylor normally I’m skeptical. I don’t think BLM has anything do with this but okay. I don’t know a lot about Urban to be honest. Everything I have heard about him is he is dirty. He left two schools with a less than stellar reputation. How can you explain away the video of him getting grounded by a girl in a video that wasn’t his wife? On TV he seems like a great coach but what people say about him is a different story.
They still chilling with Benz in the garage. They'll be alright
Well, it's not like he's a serial killer....
He thought he was still a college coach and could treat players like dirt
Love this Paul guy. He speaks truth bluntly. Wish i had heard of him before, hope to hear him again.
This time Dan knows what he's talking about. He was on the 0-16 Lions! He knows a bad coach when he sees one!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Fred Jammerson lmao we are a different breed
These people chose to live in Detroit.. They're used to a legacy of failure.
@@BoleDaPole Detroit is a great sport city. Just in a slump. As for the lions, and as a young lions fan, I feel like theirs at least hope for the Dan Campbell regime
🤣🤣🤣🤣 big facts
@Fred Jammerson "why are there Lions fans"? As a native Detroiter I'll tell you why there's Lions fans. Get ready. There's Lions fans because the people of Michigan who support them are delusional, hard-up for entertainment people. 2. They know damned well that the no-good, egotistical, and self-important Ford family has been screwing them for 60 years, but don't have the backbone to acknowledge they've been had.
3. Lions fans and ownership have such low expectations that Sheila Ford Hamp jumped in the arms of Dan Campbell after they won their first game!
4. Brilliant and courageous Detroit media have exposed the Ford Family as frauds yet the fans threatened the lives of sports writers who have told them the truth. I can go on and on, but my fingers are getting tired!!
Jon Gruden to Urban Meyer: “Welcome to the party, pal!”
Urban did that to himself dude is a pos
ABSOLUTELY. This is a major hit job 100%
Urban's probably at the bar as we speak getting another lap dance 😂🤣😅
A few years ago, maybe more than a few, Meyer was head coach in college (possibly Florida?) and he got asked a question he didn't like at a press conference. A lot of coaches would snap back, but Meyer took it further, insulting the reporter, and threatening him with being ousted forever from the press conferences. Told me all I needed to know about Urban Meyer. People brushed it under the rug because he won games, but when the winning stops so does your job.
Are you talking about him getting into it with Jeremy Fowler? That was because Jeremy lied about one of the players. It’s on TH-cam. “If that was my son.. me and you would be going at it right now.”
Coaches know their job security is nearly entirely determined by the minimum level of winning the powers that be will accept. In any sport, one team winning always means another team losing. Winning head coaches get new & more lucrative contracts while losing head coaches end up having to look for another job - with a coach's level of character seldom a significant part of the equation.
Somebody said Urban Myer got fired on his day off.
Orlovsky just nailed it here!
@Mike Taylor Like you could do any better at that position or even make it into the league. Take that to your well, you freak.
@@dinkumthinkum4247 you found urban burner account lol
Paul Finebaum is SAVAGE, and I love it! 🙌🤣
It's kind of refreshing to see them straight up (justifiably) hating on him 😅
I love how he said “whoever leaked that will get fired in seconds”
As a Jags fan, no love lost here. The sad thing is that even though we got rid of him, our team was trash before him. We need a complete overhaul AND Jesus 😂😂
Jags suck, unfortunately. No coach would have gotten much more out of them. Maybe 1 more win. Maybe.
As a Niners fan, I've got to tell you, you need to get rid of Baalke too. I'm still incredulous after what he did to our team that he not another GM job.
same fixes needed, no HC and $60M poorer...good luck!
@@michaelnadler596 I'll second that. The atrocious 2012 draft, his weird fascination with drafting mid- and late-round picks with ACL injuries, the power struggle with Coach Harbaugh... he's not the guy you want trying to create a well-rounded roster.
@@michaelnadler596 the Gardner Minshew trade is still befuddling to me
ESPN sucks but Dan Orlovsky is freaking amazing. The guy is always spot-on with his analysis and takes. He is a star. Why does this dude not have his own show? If I was an NFL Owner I would tell him to name is price to coach my team.
Is this Dan's fake account?
@@jordansmith8078 LOL!
Except for when he swore up and down that Carson Wentz was a better QB than Dak Prescott
And when he said the NFL is a we above me league. That was pretty funny. Maybe this comment was ment in regards to Dan's comedic chops?
Lol this must be Dan burner account 😂
Trust me, Dan Orlovsky knows bad football better than anyone else so if he says Urban Meyer is a bad coach he is right because he really knows what it means to be bad in the NFL
Stop he knows football in general bri
Tell him, Urban lol 😏
Quiet punk I knew him growing up and he worked hard to make it to the NFL. How many NFL teams have you quarterbacked to win?
If I were a Jags fan, I'd want Jim Caldwell as the new HC.
Byron Leftwich, Doug Pederson, Kellen Moore and Eric Bienimy are all interesting options imo. And Jim Caldwell is a great option too.
Bro you just hit the nail on the head!!! If Jacksonville don’t hire Byron Leftwitch, or Jim Caldwell. They’re foolish!
And as a Black Man myself I’m not saying those coaches should be hired because they are Black. I’m saying it because those two coaches are offensive minded and would be great for Trevor because I feel Trevor has the talent to be P.Manning.
And I’m a Titans fan saying this
Byron leftwich good young OC and former jag that the city can support
@@xbotnpc420 Pederson please no!!! He's another moron in my opinion, but Leftwhich being a ex first round pick by the Jags it make sense. Second will be Bienemy, but Shad don't want a Black coach.
Winning solves everything. I think we can all agree that Urban Meyer is probably a questionable dude but if they were at least 7-6 or 8-5 the headlines would be different.
He probably wouldn't be acting so suspect if they were over-achieving
Sad but true
Revolutionary thought
Well he wasn’t 7-6 he was 2 and 10
Yeah and he isn't that is a dumb thing to say
Dan: Tell em wood!
Dan need his own detail for football btw. I love that the NFL hired a real X’s and O’s guy. Not that nobody else isn’t that he’s just the best
They should've just let paul finebaum talk the entire segment. 🔥
They better be careful talking about him, gonna be awkward when he's working for ESPN in a couple of weeks walking in those hallways
Dan will be fired
@@luhRvck naw, I ain't going that far, they're not lying about Urban though!
Not with his resume, he won’t be working as a Walmart stocker 😂
That wont happen but I hear he will be asked to be Trump's next vice president.
@@davidtaliaferro 😂😂😂😂
this is easily the most slanderous character slaughter fest I've ever seen lmfao
He deserves it
It’s only slander if it isn’t true
@@dspsblyuth Exactly
I wanna hear what Tim Tebow has to say about this. I hope we get to hear his side today or tomorrow.
Tebow has never been the confrontational type, more of just Jesus and team nothing else
Surprised it took 14 weeks but glad we’ve finally won boys
his first act was signing tebow to a position he never played… we saw this coming
😆 🤣 so glad minshew is out of that hellhole
@@mikeedwards7619 me too bc ngl he should have start over tlaw
That ESPN would hate on him no matter what and celebrate Jags losing?
Some people tried to defend that 🤣🤣🤦♂️
Got a college coach mentality that wont work in the nfl these are grown men with contracts making millions
Nail on the head
Can someone please make a highlight reel of all the tv personalities praising Urban Meyer getting hired.
They were also very stupid
Tim Tebow is in the hot seat to speak on this. I'm interested in hearing his First Take.
I wouldn’t ask a 34 year old to come in and give an expose that he’s never done before
He called that man ‘soulless’. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wish ESPN put a full segment of this cause this reckoning is more better than a comedy roast
Amazing how quickly narratives abt a man can change. I still remember him being highly sought after and was linked with USC job. Wow
Youre always under more scrutiny at the pro level. I think the most damning part is instead of college kids hes dealing with veteran athletes/coaches who werent afraid to stick up for themselves and clearly werent going to put up with the level of toxicity he brought.
I'm glad he didn't hired at USC
UT Austin too.
Imagine this dude on a college campus again after that video of him trying to check some 20 year olds oil if any university touches him they’re out of their minds
Watch for Florida State giving Urban Meyer a look in a year or two. They may be desperate enough to go for him.
“Soulless man” that’s your legacy, urban 😔
It’s funny how they didn’t research or ignore red flags 🚩. But for a guy like Eric Bieniemy oh he had a run in with the law 20 years ago.
I somewhat agree if you can hire clowns like Urban Meyer you can turn a blind eye to Bieniemy. But I don't necessarily agree with hiring a coordinator that coaches the same side of the ball as there head coach.
It makes you wonder every time the offence take the field is that Bieniemy drawing up the play's or is it Andy Reid? For example look at Matt Patricia and Matt Nagy both were consider "Amazing Coordinators" when they where with New England and Kansas City, but once they became head coaches they were absolutely terrible.
Eric Bienemy is brad Childress 2.0 Whichbis not bad but not great. He simply doesn’t interview well. He was our running back coach with Vikings before taking chiefs job. His PR relations need work. That’s half of Eric’s issue in these jobs. Personally I would get coached in how to interview and public speaking like a dale Carnegie course. They would really help Eric in his interviewing process. He would have had Texan job if he interviewed well. May not seem great but it’s a better job than Jets, Carolina or jags. It has a rabid fan base. A good history. Just looking for coach to set right culture. The guy they hired from ravens just beat the chargers and won two straight in a rebuilding year. Can’t ask for more. Lots of young players getting better. Look at jags and jets in comparison Texans are improving those two are train wrecks waiting to run off the tracks!!’
Yesterday most of the TV experts were humming and hawing about how Urban Meyer was suboptimal but maybe he could turn it around. The second he got fired they all got brave and put on their big-boy pants and started saying how they're always said he was a cad and a bounder. It's funny how they found their moral indignation as soon as he lost any power over access to his team.
Perfect example of how when you’re down, people will come and kick you even more.
How times have changed. Woody, Bo, Tom Osborne would be sick about espn.
‘Soulless’ is definitely worse than ‘bad.’
Finebum grinding that SEC axe.
This is the best time of the year, when people from all walks of life come together to trash Urban Myer.
When Finebaum smiled during Dan's bit I thought it was some smirk and because he's the college guy he'd defend Urban. Glad to see he didn't
college coaching is about hogging the recruiting and having all the power.
In NFL you have 1 draft(7rounds) and everybody goes to the same well. You are an employee like everybody else.
"Now go home and get your shine box !" 😆
I wish orlovsky and SAS on tomorrow with Tebow, that would be a great debate, but it wont happen, plus finebaum..As long as it was professional..All are good at their jobs
This Finebaum character was probably singing Urban praises 7 years ago. The media today is the ultimate go along get along gang today.
I’d pay to see woody body slam a coach multiple times for kicking him 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
It will be interesting to see if Meyer responds publicly to this firing and all the criticism he's gotten over his behavior in Jacksonville. If he does respond, will he be contrite & humble or will he continue, as he always has in the past, to blame others for the situation he now finds himself in?
If he does the latter, the whole world will come down on him like a ton of bricks.
Damien Woody really brought back 'boo'd up'.
Straight roast takes 😂😂
"I don't want to call him a bad dude, I'll say liar, fraud..."
Liar and Fraud are things that make you a bad dude!
Dude with the glasses just snapped on urban lol no mercy
Paul finebaum be going in 😂😂🤣🤣
Bad Coach? Sounds more like a bad man.
This was doomed to fail from the start
Maaaan, I would've loved to see Tebow put in his 2 cents in with these guys lol
He wouldn't bash Meyer though
He called the owner a moron lol.
He's a good college football coach, but a bad NFL coach and a bad person overall.
There are good NFL coaches that are bad people. But if they win, they get a free pass from the media.
@@Paulafan5 True, but Meyer is not one of them. He's not well suited for the NFL. The things he's good at (team control, player development, recruiting, etc.) don't matter as much at the NFL level. You need to be more of a CEO type that knows how to roll with the punches and delegate. That's because players have a lot of power in the NFL and often make more money than everyone but the team owners. You can't treat them like kids and expect it to go well - they're high-value, high-performing professionals! And then he has all these questionable moral problems, which just makes his rigid, controlling approach even more laughable at the professional level.
If Dan “self safety” Orlovsky says this about you you might be a bad coach
I agree with every point but I think the most obvious is he simply wanted to get fired realizing he was way over his head and his coaching style would NEVER a succeed in the NFL….now he gets what he wanted and will keep all if not most of what he owed on his contract…plain and simple…
It seems like someone told Dan in his ear piece to stop laughing at Paul’s moron comment because his manor changed instantly lmao
I'm here for Paul Finnebaum!
I compare this to an NBA team hiring Bob Knight. One of those guys would have beaten the "F" out of him very quickly if he tried to intimidate them like he could some college kid.
*Lesson here once again: Once you're a successful college coach stay on the college level*
Good show. Spot on criticism .
I’m from Africa and now live in Europe. Been following football for like a year and even I thought Urban was gana be bad.
He should've stayed retired
For a man to call another man 'soulless' is, just, wow! That's deep, man. You better really know a fellow to make that claim, because that is more than journalism and is getting really personal. There's no other way around that.
Yeah that is really personal
yeah that statement is a bit much tbh, has dan ever had personal interaction with urban if not than just hear say. Then he just wanted to go viral saying this and thats a pos move
The venom is nasty. I don't like Meyer and he deserved to get fired, but there is real hate for Meyer with some ESPN personalities. Did any of them honestly think the Jags would have been even an okay team?
Hindsight is 20/20 and listening to finebaum is about as sickening as it gets. 3 years ago Harbaugh was asked about his record vs osu and Meyer and Harbaugh said for some reason controversy always follows him...everyone shouldve listened then.
This show is so much better without Stephen A. Like people are actually able to speak and give insight insead of yelling like kids in a lunch room
I'm surprised he wasn't fired after the Ohio fiasco. What HC stays in the in a city or state while your team flies home after a loss? Then the world finds out that you stayed to party in a college bar with some young lady that wasn't your wife? Not a good look. Now his daughter wants to rant and rave like her daddy was done wrong. Give it 3 years and he'll be on some college's sideline. College sports is just as dirty as Urban is.
And pro sports isn't dirty, especially the NFL and NBA?
Maybe he's a bad NFL coach, but this has been the worst overall team in the NFL for over a decade.
In the past 11 seasons, the Jags 2nd best season was 6 wins. once. So 9 of the past 11 seasons, they've finished with 5 wins or less. 12 - 36 record the previous 3 seasons, including 1 win last year.
And this is in the AFC South, the worst division in football. Zero Super Bowl appearances for any team in the division since 2009, when Indy lost by 14 to the Saints. They haven't even had a 12 win team in the regular season since 2012.
He’s definitely a bad nfl coach regardless of talent on the roster
Dan Orlovski repeats his takes on several different shows, it’s hilarious
He's the real "bad dude"
Multiple national championships says you are WRONG
Seeing this makes me feel good about being a jet fan 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ahh that's tough lol might still go with the Jags lmao, all in good fun 🤣
Only the jags can make the jets seem any good
Who's having a good day?
Paul Finebaum!
Funny they never said any of this when Meyer was at Utah, Florida or Ohio st. Nor did they say any of this when he was getting hired.
Urban Meyer let A-Aron Hernandez play for him at Florida University after A-Aron shot a guy in the face.....u didn’t say nothing then ESPN!
Nobody wants to bring that up 😂 And BB knew of Hernandez shadynees and still drafted him 🤷🏿♂️
Urban Meyer didn't even fly back with the team after a loss. He stayed behind and was pictured at a bar....smh. He should've just stayed in college football.
That is what lost him any credibility and moral authority that he had left with players and other coaches.
How are the Rangers doing this season?
@@musafawundu6718 He didn't adjust to the NFL he was always used to bullying college kids. Rangers are doing great ,in 1st place in their division.
Paul Finebaum hit the nail on the head…
Shaud Kahn is the Ultimate problem.
You didn’t do any homework on this coaching hire. Again you set your franchise back.
“The Jacksonville Jaguars”
Mistake Prone and lovin it since 1970…😂
True, he is the problem. But the funny thing about your post is that the Jaguars didn't exist until the '90s.
This is like a roast session lol
Even in Urban’s apology to the city of Jacksonville….he didn’t even apologize to his players, coaches, and staff…the ones that was directly affected the most
Finebaum calling NFL owners morons ... will be the quote of the year... thank you sir.... Meyer should go to church on Xmas because he's lucky he's not spending the new year in a body cast... there was a legit chance a player would have whipped the stupid out of him. MEYER HAS A GUARDIIAN ANGEL.
Only college coaches to make it in the NFL Pete Carroll and Jimmy Johnson (Barry Switzer just stood there). Urban was doomed to fail. Urban's next stop a D II or D III college.
Florida State on line one. Don’t think they’re not desperate enough to do it. Give it a year or two. They’ll start kicking the tires.
As a gator’s fan, I love to see it 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
That "handshake" after the game with Vrabel was dispicable.
The Schadenfreude is strong across the Internet today.