I love how invested Michelle is. You can tell she really feels the emotions by her gasps and reactions. I love these types of guests who really want to be here.
I agree, I really liked hearing the way she articulates her thoughts and her immediate reactions were very different from my own, which was nice to be offered different perspectives
Also what a lot of people forget is when you pull a “prank” about a serious situation and scare or upset a person then reveal its a prank, you still put that person through the emotional trauma as if it were real. They thought it was real even if only for a minute and had real stress and anxiety and even sometimes trauma
My take is that he already knew about the prank from the other husbands and thought OP would never stoop that low. 100% these “friends” have interfered with OP’s relationship before and this was the last straw.
This i honestly still haven't forgiven my mom and step dad for their April fools joke when I was like 10. They told me someone offered them like $4000 to buy my Siamese cat and that they just really need the money and we're hoping I could let them. I agreed while BAWLING MY EYES OUT because I understood how they struggled with money. Meow Meow was my BEST FRIEND it was such a cruel joke 🥺 I cried the rest of the day even knowing it was not real
@@amandar4689 It's so telling when someone in your life doesn't think anything about hurting you emotionally or physically. If they're amused by your distress, it's a sign.
@@somethingelse4204 sure is. I'm sure you not surprised I've had periods of no contact with them and limited contact now. Sted sad is now sober, but has never bothered to make amends with me nor his daughter (who he's wronged so much more) 🥺 it's good to see him sober and my mom happier but 🤷♀️ it's bitter sweet to be around them now cuz it feels like a facade (especially with their new and excessive relationship with the church) I do hope it's all genuine for their souls sake but it's hard for me to believe.
I wish we could hear the husband’s side. Is this something OP does on a regular basis? Not that I agree with the divorce prank, I just want to hear from him.
okay but in all seriousness....MORGAN IS THE PERFECT CANDIDATE TO BE A VOICE ACTOR FOR CALM. her voice is sooo soothing. i could be so anxious and once i listen to an episode i feel so relaxed, just by listening!
When my husband makes a "joke" i find rude, offensive and/or just plain unfunny, I have started asking him " what's the punchline?" It has made him more aware about his "jokes" and more understanding of my feelings and my reaction emotionally. I learned that from here. Thank you Morgan and all the other THT hosts for helping me and my husband be more emotionally aware of how we speak to each other. It is a habit, clearly one he wants to break though. Thinking things through before you speak is something we should learn a lot earlier than our late 20s haha.
Story 3: I grew up around servants and even I get uncomfortable sometimes when other’s don’t treat them right. The issue lies in the details; when someone’s job is to literally take care of your needs it can be difficult to separate their duties from your personal responsibility. OP is considerate but they should consider the perspective of those servants; they’re attending to the people of the house’s needs, that’s their literal job. So to them, OP means well but is actually interfering with their work. Even making the bed; my mother always makes her bed in the morning, but our maid remakes it to her standards 😅 she’s just like that, I ask her not clean my room and she does it anyway; it’s like an itch that she has, she likes to have things clean and organised and taken care of. I love our maid, she’s part of the family, and she knows it. Just because you’re not used to something doesn’t make it wrong, sometimes you just need to be open minded to other lifestyles. 💁🏽♀️
I agree it might be interfering with the jobs. I was a housekeeper and a personal care aid, where I worked in people's homes. I would get a little annoyed when I was supposed to do something as part of my job and a client did it themselves. It made me feel like I wasn't good enough to do it for them. It's so weird because if I gave examples it would seem like the person was being really nice but I took it as a personal attack against my work. Also if you do my work for me, then I have nothing to do and I'm wasting my time.
In my country no one has servants. For many years it was the people here who would be servants for others, either for the colonising class here or by going abroad. I think maybe that's why it's the norm here to help cleaners or waiters etc. and to thank them profusely. When I was a child our teachers would have us clean the classroom at the end of every day and one time our principal said "you may think it's silly to clean this room when someone else is being paid to clean it later - but just because it's their job does not mean that we have to make their job harder". That seems to be the general attitude most people have here. Even if we don't do anything to actively help, people always ask if there's a way they can make someone's job easier - like moving out of the way if someone is hoovering, or moving all the empty plates towards where the waiter is so that they don't have to walk around into narrow corners. That sort of thing.
@@Fluffycara"It would seem like I took it as a personal attack against my work" But isn't that the case based on your comment? There's a difference between being upset that you weren't able to serve someone and being upset bc "it made me feel like I wasn't good enough to do it for them".
To me this feels cultural. Like, I would feel as uncomfortable as the bf, but I also know people have their own rules in their own home. Maybe you don't want someone touching your appliances because you're very particular and don't want them to start using your stuff? Maybe you don't want them coming into the kitchen? Maybe making your own food or drink looks like you don't like the host's? Being mindful of that and respecting others' life choices if they feel comfortable with it and/or take personal pride.
Even better... the story made news and corporate found out.. Literally, every person in his office knows about it. He's "The PowerPoint Critic" in the office now. The biggest joke and legend. He had to do a presentation, and everyone was cracking up, telling him not to forget the garlic, etc... karma was beyond sweeter than you thought.
in story 4, i big time disagree with morgan’s comparison to people without kids not being allowed to comment on other people’s parenting. we’ve all been kids. if someone in your life is being a shitty parent, you absolutely have the right to call them out.
Not to mention most ppl who choose not to have kids know how hard it is to take care of them while a lot (not all) ppl who have kids just have them to live the traditional life without preparing or thinking about what that could mean. Most of the ppl in my life who have children are very neglectful and critical of children while most of my childless friends love children and have taken care of them or grew up with younger siblings so they understand the responsibilities that come with raising children.
@@lizannlabresh7213 it was a TikTok test where you film your partner and asked them to make you a cup of tea/coffee and if they do then they truly love you.
@@lizannlabresh7213 It started with this woman asking her husband to make her some coffee and him saying no very rudely then other women started recording asking their husbands to show how they would do it without hesitation
@@bigelowkaryn I hate pranks because other people's anxiety is NOT funny. But some of those "tests" are not that crazy because if you asked your partner to make tea and they said "no, that's your job" or some other rude thing then that is not "unnecessary drama" The drama is caused by the rude partner not by the test.
First story: NTA, a good friend would let their friend know that. It’s not healthy to build your entire personality and base your hobbies only on who you’re dating. It shows that she’s very insecure in herself that she relies on a man to know herself. Second story: fuck around and find out unfortunately. Third story: NTA. When I went to Thailand I found it so uncomfortable how people jumped to serve us and was always appreciative and tried to lessen their load. If I was with someone who lavished in being served and told me to let them because it’s their job I’d be very uncomfortable. I don’t think you can be the asshole for being put off by people being completely unfazed by being served like royalty. It shows they probably just aren’t compatible long term due to their differences. Fourth story: NTA, if you can’t cook you can’t give coking advice
Yes! I agree with your take on the first story. And I’ll add that what her friend needs is some time alone. I don’t recall her age but it seems like she never had the time to gain a sense of self. She’s always someone’s friend/daughter/gf & didn’t develop an identity outside of what she can provide to others. I would advise her not to invest so much too. It’s ok to take part while she’s around her gamer bf but she needs time to sit & think. Maybe create a vision board. Create standards and boundaries. Self love should be paramount.
I agree in part on the first one but i think the friend is a ahole because of her writing style, it seems like the she wanted to tell her not because she was concerned about her friends habits because they are unhealthy but because they're annoying
I agree that you should tell you friend if you have been noticing this and you think it has a negative effect on your friend (like spending money that actually will be missed when your friend is not super rich or having no personality / hobbies of their own. Some support in the direction of discovering what her own interests are. BUT I can also see one might get frustrated with seeing this somewhat weird behavior and tell this insight from a place where you are just releasing this frustration you have. Both can be happening at the same time but it's important to deliver the message with your heart in it, with the goal to help her make her feel better. Can't really tell from this story which one it is this time
NTA, but OP maybe should have brought it up one on one, not at dinner on the spot with other people around in casual conversation. Like it could have been a jumping off point for a later conversation (hey, at dinner the other night you were asking about new hobbies and I was thinking...)
@@Slapchop721 I agree. I think it’s pretty disrespectful to air out someone’s personal business like that in front of people. I have friend’s that struggle with codependency in general in romantic and platonic relationships and I would never talk about this in front of other people. I understand where the codependency comes from and while I get why it can be frustrating to people, I have a lot more empathy for why they are codependent.
I have 2 theories for the divorce prank: 1. I think the one of the “friends” likes the husband and the others think he’d be better with her, so they came up with the “prank” while planting doubt in her husbands head about his marriage before hand. Which is why he left without saying anything. 2. I think the husband and one of her “friends” are having an affair and the other girls know about it and are fine with it, so they all came up with the “prank” to give an easy out, the husband leaves without looking like a cheater. Just looks like he was “blindsided” and moved on after. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
I think those are really good theories because there is for sure something missing here. Why did the friends want her to do it THAT badly? Why did he just take and leave without talking about it AT ALL? Idk I agree something else is going on
@@CrazyLikeChris absolutely could be that too, it’s just strange how abruptly it happened, a relationship or engagement I get it happening that fast but all the legal stuff that’s about to go down? Like not saying one word? Idk it seems off too me. Again she could just be someone who plays to much and he got sick of it, but it’s definitely a story that makes you think.
I paused this video just to check out Michelle’s page and see who she is. I ended up watching a few shorts…and the entire Houdini episode! Almost brought me to tears because you really form a bond with Michelle and are with her for the journey and each struggle. I found a new TH-camr to watch! Her videos are also extremely informative which is a break from my crazy Reddit drama lol. Thanks Morgan for introducing us!!! 5am and still haven’t gotten to sleep with my 5month old. Morgan entertains us on sleepless nights.
@@TwoHotTakes okay so it’s taken me some time to soak up the fact that The Morgan Herself responded to me! I don’t ever watch TV, I watch TH-cam. Morgan is my Hollywood Superstar. Im relishing in the fact that I got an actual response from the biggest TH-camr I follow. I have screenshotted it several times lol. I even got a heart celebration badge (which I didn’t know existed until now) lol!! Wow thank you Morgan for gracing me with your textual presence. It is an honor. I still am in awe 🫢 your voice lulls my daughter in her chill zone. It’s great. Thank you for helping new moms stuck at home like myself stay sane! Xox we all love you
Story 2 - Play stupid games win stupid prizes Story 3 - I don’t think he’s the asshole for voicing that he felt uncomfortable, that being said from the information given it doesn’t sound like they were ever rude to the staff. All she said was “don’t bother that’s her job” and “you should have let the kitchen staff make your coffee” which are both true statements, more than likely they are being paid extremely well to do those tasks. It’s like if I went into a restaurant and was like “it’s ok I’ll go put my own order in and grab my own food” then the manager sends the waitress home because he’s overstaffed and she looses out on pay. You can feel uncomfortable and you can choose to not stay there again but it’s not your place to judge them for being wealthy.
Exactly! I think the gf was so right calling him out for judging how her family lives. Imagine if it was the other way around. If that’s what her family can afford and the people make a good wage and are treated well- I’m not saying it’s completely “right” but it doesn’t sound wrong. Even people of lesser means get maid services or dream of having private chefs because they hate cooking etc. Not everything that makes someone uncomfortable immediately equals wrong
Controversial I think the story 3 has no assholes. I totally understand why someone would be uncomfortable being served if they’re not used to it, I certainly would be, but the examples he gave of the mistreatment truly didn’t seem that bad to me. Maybe I’m granted them too much Grace and assuming their tone wasn’t rude/demeaning, but “oh you don’t have to clean, that’s her job” …it is, she’s being paid to do that. Plus, she presumably knows the routine in the house, much like how you’d do your own cleaning after a guest leaves even if they technically clean up after themselves. The only one I could see being bad is the coffee situation, but at the same time, if you paid someone to do a service and then saw them not doing a service, i don’t think it’s wrong to bring it up. Bratty on her part, sure, but considering it sounds like the family spoke to him before the chefs, i just don’t see anything wrong on their part. Again, though, this is assuming their tone wasn’t outwardly rude, which op doesn’t make it sound like it was, more casual, which can be expected if this is the lifestyle they’re used to but he’s not
I completely agree, it depends on the tone. Cause as long as the staff is only doing stuff they've agreed on and not expected to do more than on the contract, it's okay. And you can still do kind things within that agreement like, not leaving trash everywhere or maybe removing bedsheets when they need washing. Or make your own coffee when they're busy cooking. And being kind to people makes them better employees. As a former hotel maid I really appreciated small things people did to make my job easier. But saying it's part of their job isn't rude or unkind either.
The coffee thing was petty af though. I wouldn't want a partner who tattles over small stuff like that. It's not like making coffee is a huge chore a person can't do. OP is also right in saying that his gf didn't even ask for context. I'd hate to have a partner who just assumes without communicating.
@@taeminislove I agree the Coffe was the only iffy one for me, should have been communicated better, and the partner also should not have been as upset, but i can see both sides as valid, just both need to understand, and explain their feelings better.
100% agree, they’re literally paid to take care of the house and the people in it… I think OP was just very shocked because they’ve never been waited on like this before and were spooked at the idea of having house staff in general
Story 5: You know what they say. "Every safety rule has been written in blood." Respect safety rules they are often there to protect you from yourself.
I KNEW STAYING UP LATER TONIGHT WOULD PAY OFF!!! refreshed my youtube, saw a new two hot takes episode, and almost woke up my neighbors from my excitement...(and also accidently throwing my laptop across my room...whoops).
Loved Morgan giving her honest opinions and not feeling like she needed to go with the majority. That helps ppl hear the true consensus on things. She seems to really be growing into her roll and becoming comfortable with herself. Love this for her… and for myself cuz it makes her show even better. Always so excited to see a new video posted and makes cleaning oh so enjoyable. Thanks for the entertainment. -from another Midwest friend
with story 1, as someone who has borderline personality disorder i acted very similar to the girl blowing money before i started getting treated. when we form these anxious attachments with partners, we do something called mirroring. we literally mirror their personality, and this is done to an extreme extent when untreated. the impulsivity of blowing money is another symptom, and so is her feeling like she has no hobbies or general sense of self. additionally, when i was undiagnosed, i would also be the friend who “always had a bf” or was “always talking to someone” because of this lack of identity that comes from bpd. i’m NOT diagnosing this girl bc it’s such a complex disorder, but it’s something to think about.
with story 3, my take on what would be the ideal dynamic is that you let them do their job, because you respect their proficiency at what they do, but you also show that respect when talking to them. serving is their job, not their identity. i think in the end anyone should be able to feel proud of their skills and and feel recognised, respected and appreciated for giving you their time and effort, regardless of the nature of their job. it's as simple as that, have decency. don't do their work for them, but also don't disrespect them based on their work.
Yeah this is really well said. I've never been in this dynamic so I could understand OP feeling unsure of how to act. But service work can be a good job and deserves respect like any other.
2nd story: I think there's definitely something else we're not knowing about the situation. It's obviously just my opinion, but OP isn't taking any accountability for the prank. She says her friends pushed her to do it, but ultimately she made the decision to prank him,. She says she watched her friend's husbands reactions videos and then she was convinced, disregarding the fact that, as you said, is so manipulative to threaten your husband with divorce to make him change his personality. Also, as you said, she waited for him to leave the house to say it was a joke? Didn't cross her mind he might be in their room crying his eyes out? What the actual f??? Again, just my opinion, but how did this marriage work if after you asked for a divorce your partner gets up, lock himself in your bedroom (I'm guessing for a while since he was packing), and you do not get up to check up on them?
Story 4: I was shouting that she needed to make a presentation that would hit him where it hurt, I was legit cheering when Morgan announced that OP had indeed took to powerpoint herself! So satisfying
As far as story #3, I would love to offer a different perspective. Imagine staying at a hotel and making the bed. It might seem nice but it actually creates more work for the staff who have to strip the bed and clean the sheets. Imagine ordering coffee at a coffee shop and going behind the counter because you want to make it yourself. You’re actually getting in the way of the staff, potentially making a bigger mess for them to clean up, etc. Don’t interfere with someone else’s job. They are being paid to work a job they chose.
I think, personally, that in the context of the coffee it was more like a "normal" kitchen where he made himself a coffee. It would make me uncomfortable to feel like I'm pestering household staff when I can just as easily make myself a coffee, and for the girlfriend to complain to the mother about the staff not making the coffee before talking to OP first doesn't sit right with me. Although I have never had any experience with "household" staff and the whole concept is really foreign to me.
Story 1: I think OP is the asshole! Not because she gave her friend some tough love, but because she was pretty mean to her friend at dinner in front of their whole group. Like she could have said “oh you want new hobbies, let’s try out something together!” and then talked about the boyfriend stuff later.
"The psychology of boy-mons needs to be studied" is the truest statement I heard this week! Edit: the BF in the last story is definitely trying to sabotage her. Not caring about the consequences in this context IS sabotage!
Story 4: I'm a guy with 2 now-grown(ish) daughters -- 18 and 21. I taught my daughters to cook, clean, sew. I also taught them to use power tools, program computers, do art, and play board games. I'm both glad I didn't have boys (I'm not a sports guy), but also wish I did to explain that this shit wouldn't fly.
Fr. With a daughter of my own I was boiling at the thought she’d ever experience that. The op is definitely not an AH for not cooking but if she were my daughter I’d probably be telling her that she would however be foolish to just not cook instead of letting this be the breaking point it should be and leave.
Smoke detectors don't just detect smoke. They're more like small particle detectors. Which is why steam, perfume, febreeze, anything sprayed into the air can cause it to set off.
It was a running joke at my grandparents house growing up. There was a smoke detector directly outside of one of the guest bathrooms that we would set off with shower stream all the time.
i kid you not i just turned your channel on in the first time in months LITERALLY not even 10 mins ago and you upload this at a radom time at night😭😭i just got scared asf, are you watching me morgz????
OMG! I just did that TH-cam user recap thingy and it says I’ve listened to your podcast for 8,372 minutes! In hours that’s roughly 139 hours 😂 I guess thanks for you all being awesome and filling my head as I live my life lol. Y’all rock ✌️😁✌️
@@colbieads5536 Yes! I just started getting into Father Knows Something When I began to run out of THT. 😁 But never heard of Midwest Married. I'm gonna check it out. Thanks :D
never in my LIFE have i been this early for a video!! I’ve been watching your channel for what feels like forever. It keeps me company on my commute to work and when i’m cleaning the house. Thank you for creating a safe space for so many people :)
STORY 4 HAS AN EPIC UPDATE!!!! He became an office joke and legend. You NEED to read it!!! It is amazing and made the world a better place. He made office rounds after being included in a few news stories.
44:10 to me this one’s crazy and it doesn’t matter what the pay is- there’s no check big enough to cover abuse. And her reaction proves that she’s a spoiled brat! This would be a deal breaker for me 🤷♀️
Story 3: This is something I've thought about a lot. I know OP is trying to come from a place of kindness but I've always wondered if this isn't just as insulting to the workers. It feels like he thinks having a domestic staff job is something to be pitied still like they're 1800s peasants or something. For example, him listing the mom asking the housekeeper to make the bed as an example of something that "made him uncomfortable". Imagine if it wasn't a housekeeper but a plumber and she asked them to unclog a drain. Sure, that might've been something OP could've done themselves but I doubt it would make them uncomfortable to hear the mom ask a plumber to do that. And it also would not be weird for her to ask OP to let a professional handle it. But as a society we consider plumbing a respectable career and I don't think we can say the same for housework. That being said, I do think there's more nuance to this story with the girlfriend being mad the chefs "let him" make a cup of coffee and the standing against the wall while everyone else eats seems a little weird. But yeah I don't think OP is actually helping any of them. I think they just deserve more respect all around
I totally agree with the verdict on story 3. My mother works as a cleaner at hotels and when guests "tidy up" or "make their bed", it means nothing to her since she still has to do it anyway. The hotel has their own way of cleaning and making the bed. The guests can't know that because it's not their job to know that. This man totally interfered with staffs jobs and, not to be dramatic but, belittled their work environment and profession. He's the A.
11:14 shes not 'exploring' hobbies if shes going all out and wasting her money, and then not even continuing to explore when she breaks up with the person
For me the beach house story is like when they tell you not to make your own bed at a hotel, because the staff is going to have to remake it anyway. As someone who has both worked in service and lived in a house with a housekeeper, the one red flag I see is the girlfriend complaining to her parents about the cooks. But for example I have rented a place where the landlord paid for someone to come deep clean the house every other month, and at first we would really try to clean and tidy the place as much as possible the day before the cleaning lady came. Then we realized that by doing that not only were we unknowingly cutting her hours, but we weren’t doing as good a job as she would have done anyway. So we started scheduling her on weeks when we’re especially overwhelmed, this way she would get a full day of work out of it and we would get a break when we needed it most.
Omf!!!! Michelle Khare! The very first video I saw of hers was working out like a vs model, so inspirational and real about the entire process. Love your whole energy!
Story 5 is hilarious. “Lost at sea” when they could see her and called help for her and “navigation error” regarding her racing out into to ocean on a jet ski is hilarious
Story #6 No!!!! Way would I run without training. That is insane. And cutting the course for better time is also insane. I'm of the opinion that finishing something you started is more important then where you ranked in the end. I did a half marathon 9 months pregnant....I was also the last person across the line. But I was proud of myself for completing it.
At 9 months pregnant I was okay with going into early labor from how miserable I was. Running anything is absolutely amazing! I’ve only ever ran a 10k then got pregnant so never got to do a half. I’m currently 7 weeks PP. Seriously running a half is so so so amazing, congratulations!!!!!
story #1: NTA and there were a few things that stuck out to me in the story that make me wonder if the friend is possibly dealing with BPD and isn’t aware. always needs to be in a relationship, makes her partner of the moment her entire personality, takes up whatever interest her partner is into, and is willing to spend thousands of dollars rather irrationally on that interest just because their partner is into it. if they are possibly dealing with BPD, i wouldn’t be surprised if the friend was so hurt because they don’t know what their own interests are which can be a hallmark of the disorder. i don’t think the OP is the asshole, but i could see how the friend could be so hurt and reacting harshly if this is potentially what is going on.
I was shocked he was voted asshole but my goodness, a true friend tells someone something they NEED to hear.... idk why someone is an asshole for that. It IS unhealthy to spend your time and money on something you don't fully care about. Jumping right into a hobby with no experience, you're gonna find out you don't like it... and basing all that on some guy is really sad ._.
@@internetclown904 I think we should be honest with friends but I think it’s incredibly rude to do so while out at dinner with other people. That was a one on one conversation that shouldn’t have been done publicly.
@@internetclown904 Yes, especially if you believe that friend is codependent. It would have been very embarrassing and alienating for her. Definitely a way to cause someone with codependency to spiral. I think you can be honest but you communicate with empathy and meeting the person where they are at. I personally like directness so appreciate honesty but I think having tact is something that should always be a part of that approach.
Former search and rescue for the coast guard here. The AMOUNT of people that go out and have no clue what they are doing and don’t take any responsibility for putting themselves and their family at risk is mind blowing. That girl needed someone to call her out. Honestly, hopefully the shame of it all will sit with her long enough that she’ll think twice before doing something like this again. The speed at which a casual day out on the water turns into a tragedy is truly something that people should be more aware of.
Story 3: OP is wrong. I'm poor as f***, but the girlfriend's family didn't treat the staff in an unconventional way. What the guy has a problem with is the family having buttlers in the first place, which is fine, but then he should have just said that. And the girlfriend clocked it because she said he had a problem with their way of life.
I kinda agree up until the bit where the gf complained to her mother about OP making their own coffee without talking to OP first about what happened. That gives me bad vibes honestly.
Story 2: im thinking if everything was actually going well, this could be a hard boundary for him. As in no matter how good the relationship if, he is not willing to bet his life on someone anymore after those words leave their mouth. Which I agree with honestly because I could never feel safe with someone after they said that and even if it was a joke I wouldnt want to be with someone who sees our marriage as the punchline of a joke. Edit: this kind of sounds like the reaction of a traumatized person. I might be projecting too but since I have PTSD and severe trust issues, someone could go from a trustworthy person who cares about me to untrustworthy and unpredictable in a split second. And for me at least at that point, my mind wound start to wander. Would they hurt me physically too? Can i sleep next to this person? Can i eat anything they made me ever again? Would they light the house on fire and record me as im crying to get a cheap laugh?
She's so wrong for doing a joke like that I agree. But if he has no prior issues like PTSD or something else, her husband overreacted. I understand that she hurt him. But throwing away years of happiness over a joke without even communicating, or trying to fix it first says a lot. Again if he has no prior issues
Story 3: I agree with the top comment-it doesn’t seem like the family was being rude. It’s likely that the family and the staff have a mutual understanding of how things are supposed to be done, and they’ve been living in that functional dynamic for years. I understand that OP isn’t used to this and might feel uncomfortable, but that doesn’t make it right for them to call out their girlfriend’s family. It’s understandable that the girlfriend is upset. I’d say no assholes here; they just need better communication and understanding of each other’s very different backgrounds. Not to mention the staff likely went back to make the bed anyway and might have felt uncomfortable with OP making their own coffee, as it disrupts their established routine.
Story 1: Absolutley NTA, everything we've been told indicates that the the friend has an unhealthy (and expensive) habit of hopping to her boyfriends' hobbies. It's actually dangerous in the case of the cobra. Cobras are NOT beginner snakes and if she's in USA or Europe, they are exotics, so there is no anti-venom in her country if she gets bit. Also, it's a living creature and it's usually a terrible idea to support the exotic pet trade at all. It's exploitative, full of bad breeding and kidnapping and poaching from the wild.
i think she needed to hear that it wasnt good but something about the writing style makes me feel like she was coming from a place of annoyance rather than concern
@@Jakkieeee perhaps, but I think annoyance is sometimes a warranted feeling if you feel like someone you care about is repeatedly doing something that is unhelpful to themselves. I've had friends get annoyed with me when I do stupid things over and over and I know they are coming from a good place still.
All of these stories about toxic "friends" are the reason I cut a lot of people out of my life. I keep my circle small with uplifting people. Will not deal with drama anymore! ❤️✨
54:11 I don't let my husband cook 😂 I love my pans and pots too much... BUT he is willing to learn if I need help, cuts the onions for my sensitive little eyes, and if I don't feel good, he'll fend for himself AND make sure that I have food. Also, I will not be that type of boy mom ... ever ...
Story 3: AH. It doesn’t sound like the family was rude to the staff, it sounds like he just didn’t like that they had staff. If he keeps doing their jobs then why do the staff need to be there. Maybe I missed where the family yelled or berated the staff🤔
I can agree that the first example isn't so bad. I can imagine the family telling their guests to relax and things like making the bed just aren't necessary because that's the job of the staff. It's literally their job. It's not offensive to say that out loud in front of the job. I am assuming they are aware 🤪. The second example is a bit weird because the girlfriend just assumes the staff did a bad job. That could be very telling about her opinion of their staff. It could also just mean that she thinks so differently from her boyfriend that she would have never guessed he choose to do it himself. The last example tho, that just feels degrading to me. Making their staff stand there. It feels like a movie. Then again, it's not what I am used to and I can see it can be seen as normal. That's a lot of words to tell you, I am not sure. 😂
@ so the 2nd instance could be perceived as rude but the 3rd account is not abnormal. I’ve been a server at private parties and it was our jobs to be at the ready…. It’s not like that for everyone but it isn’t unheard of.
I think he was probably more mad at how his gf handled the coffee situation. She literally tattled to her mom about him getting his own coffee like they're kids lol. I would be put off by that reaction, too. It would be different if she just would've reassured him that him asking them for the coffee isn't a bother.
@@premierebuerger4553 she didn’t tattle. She informed her mother that the staff they paid wasn’t doing their jobs. Which was the fault of the guest and not the staff but the point still remains.. Had the bf considered more than his feelings on wait staff maybe he would’ve understood that his helpfulness is just being in the way and gives the optics that the staff aren’t doing their jobs…
I mean, yeah, if their job description requires them to stand in the room during meals, I don't see a problem. It's not degrading. Where else should they stand/why does it matter where they stand?
I know the husband didn’t know it was a “divorce prank” yet but if I found out it was a “joke” I’d make that joke a reality in a heartbeat. Is our relationship a game to you? So immature. So hurtful. So childish. And she just let them peer pressure her into hurting him? So you can see whose feelings she cares more about.. her friends. Especially with dating- I’ve told partners that I don’t do the whole ‘break up and get back together thing.’ If we’re over, we’re over. I’m not playing games..
I watch every episode of THT and i’m subscribed to the patreon , I recently just starting watching Michelle’s content for the first time in YEARS this past week and all of a sudden , she’s your guest I literally was so shocked 😂 ik it’s not rlly a coincidence but that just tripped me out
Both of these comments are so stupid. What she did was evil and wrong. It wasn’t “just one comment”, you can’t minimize this that way when the comment was “I’m not happy and I want a divorce.” She said it herself that she saw something break inside of him. He was commited, and she decided to ruin their lives in a second with a terrible joke. What he did is sane and rational and correct. You sound like one of that woman’s psycopath friends that enjoys manipulating and playing mind games on their partners
Whats crazy is people being labled as over the top, when reacting appropretetly to someone saying they want divorce. Whilst reacating to a bad ppt joke warrants a breakup. Granted it was a distasteful joke, but what peoples limits are and takes are, is off base.
Story 1 I 100% say NTA. I personally love gaming and I’ve been doing it for the past 18 years of my life. Even I’M not about to drop that much on a gaming computer. I don’t think dropping that much money on a hobby you don’t even know if you like is responsible and I’d be concerned if one of my friends made that decision too.
Story 3: At first, i was team NTA, but after hearing the top comment, I ended up going towards no assholes. It made me reflect on my time working at Little Caesars. I loved customer service and it was literally my job to provide it. I would be aghast if someone tried to place their own order or make their own food. Let me work for you, you just come inside and I'll make sure to treat you and put a smile on your face. That being said, I never had house servants growing up, and to be treated like royalty would throw me COMPLETELY off. OP was voicing his concerns, and the gf took offense at his accusations. In his eyes, they're all being entitled pricks. In their eyes, they are allowing their servants to work and cater to their guests, but someone interfered and got them in trouble. If anything, i think it was probably the gfs responsibility to prepare him for an obvious shock, but despite that, no assholes. Just expressing feelings over an awkward situation for the guy who did not know how to handle and process it all
the top comment on story #3 opened my mind to a new dimension. after listening to the story i was like "he needs to leave his gf ASAP because wtf?" but then hearing the different point of view on the situation completely changed my mind...wow. this is why i love this podcast!
Story 1 is basically the plot to the movie Runaway Bride with Julia Roberts lol. NTA. Her friend is voicing her needs for new hobbies. After complaining she wasted $2500 on a gaming rig. Which is the PERFECT opportunity for OP to tell her some tough love truth. OP wasn’t even as harsh as she could’ve been. Sometimes ppl need someone to be BLUNT with them for them to wake up. That’s literally what friends are for. Not to feed into your unhealthy delulu cycles.
Story 1: codependency is one of my pet peeves so they were WAY nicer than I would’ve been. I also think, past codependency, anyone who’s had their friend massively fuck up and then be like “hm why is my life so hard” is insanely annoying 😭 sometimes people need tough love, and yeah the OP DEFINITELY could’ve said it nicer, but I completely understand why she was annoyed. There’s a difference between looking for hobbies and dropping $2500 once your bf says he likes gaming. Even in the pursuit of love or interests, actions CAN be harmful
Last story cracked me up them being cats totally threw me 🤣 but on a real nite they just gotta get that cat on a play-eat-groom-sleep Routine. Jackson Galaxy videos have taught me so much and made my life so much easier with my 3 crazy kitties!
There used to be a show called "my cat from hell" where they had someone come in and help with training tips. Sounds like OP needs to petition to start the show back up to be on it 😂
Story #3: I'm poor but yeah honestly nothing OP describe sounded like poor treatment of the staff (except maybe going to the mom about the coffee, but even then it's possibly because the mom manages that stuff typically). The staff are professionals being paid to do a job that they consented to do, and if anything the OP's attitude felt unintentionally demeaning as it was like he acting like they were indentured servants who didn't know better. You want to be good to house staff? Thank them for their work, tip them if they accept tips, and maybe even have an actual conversation and ask them what you can do to make their jobs easier. The bit about the coffee totally grinded my gears as I've worked in enough kitchens to know that professional kitchens have a rhythm that they do every day - and that dude was 100% getting in the way.
One of the best guests you’ve ever had! Can’t wait to check out her podcast. I rarely get into other podcasts but she has a great vibe and I NEED to see the butler academy! 😂 On the butler story… I think also NTA. The boyfriend HAD to say something because it really speaks to a divide in values and expectations that needs to be discussed with a partner. He also waited until after the trip and I think that thoughtfulness makes me think he probably did approach it tastefully. A guy that is going to fly off the handle isn’t going to wait out of respect.
This is my new favorite guest. Michelle seems so intelligent and well spoken. I love her takes since she sounds like she's experienced so many different situations in her life. I hope she comes back!❤
Story 1, NTA and I think a good friend WOULD tell their homies this. It doesn’t need to come from a therapist as feelings aren’t something we should be sheltered from. If the friend gets hurt/offended by the comment, then that creates an opportunity to discuss it more deeply. There are many times we avoid saying things that will ultimately help the other person grow and strengthen the relationship. And sometimes relationships expire. Really, think about the relationships that you’ve lost but the wisdom you’ve gained from them. We learn resilience through hardships.
Story 1 I think NTA. Girl needed some truth. The runner comment: It`s one thing hat hubby joins her on runs and tries, it. But imaiine he had right away spent hundrets on super expensive running shoes and a running outfit. For op she can join her dude in a game, try some game on her normal laptop. But investing thousands in a new gaming laptop, trying to buy a freaking cobra?
The second to last story reminds me sooo much of The Devil Wears Prada!!! That scene where Anne Hathaway gives all these lavish gifts to her friends/boyfriend because she’s starting to be successful at work and then she gets an important call and they toss her phone around so she can’t pick it up!!! The bf in this story is giving the chef bf in that movie!!!
story 4: I cook every day, and I want to know if my boyfriend doesn’t like it and why. I don’t want to spend hours cooking for him, not to like it… But there is a way you communicate that, very touchy topic lol
Yeah, the smarmy bs he pulled was unacceptable. It's one thing to say "Hey a little heavy on the garlic this time" here and there, but it's way diffrent than compiling a list of criticisms over a period of time and going out of your way to make your partner, who does 100% of the cooking, feel small and stupid. That's not how you treat people. I really get the vibe he was seeing how far he could push op.
To me, a funny couple's prank is when you tell your partner, you'll give them a massage or cook them dinner or something, and they see you doing it with little tiny plastic hands.
Please have Michelle on the show again in the future! She's so kind and pays so much attention to the details in the stories, and really rational about the situations
Story 7 If he has a job I wonder if he answers work calls at all times, and is jealous that he feels has to answer all his work calls, but she doesn’t. Or maybe he is a boss that calls his employees at all hours and sympathizes with OP’s boss more than her.
The first story shocked me. I've been a pretty casual gamer most of my life but the last 2.5 years (since I got out of a relationship and had more time) I have gotten REALLY into it and I havent even had the gull to drop that much money on a setup yet 😅
story #3 this reminds me of my entitled aunt. When we were in our teens we went to a hotel together and the room was a disaster. I made a comment about it and she said "thats what the maids are for", that's when i knew we viewed the world so differently and it always left a bad taste in my mouth. While part of me did think that it is part of the job, they are used to it and doing any of their work would leave them to have less to do meaning less money, that doesnt mean you treat them poorly. You can still treat them kindly and not treat them like robots while expecting them to do the same quality work
I think the prank one was completely valid in her being the AH. But the husband needs to communicate. If there was nothing said and there were issues…like we can’t just walk away. I agree there’s info missing
Sadly, the butler story, OP was the asshole. He was telling the tale exclusively from his perspective. I've been on all three sides: server, guest, and host, and I can tell you that this man ran all the way to self-righteous hill to die there. First, the hosts were not rude. They did not call the staff names or tell the driver to wash their knickers or tell the cooks to serve them breakfast in bed. They were simply acknowledging the fact that it was their job, and in a way, strengthening the relationship by reiterating that the staff was trusted to handle that. By refusing, you made the staff look incompetent and if they were insecure or new they would worry about their place and position. People do take pride in doing their jobs right, and enjoy being valued for their work. OP didn't move there. He was there for a short time which also coincided with a big event. He doesn't know them and possibly has never been a server. I think the gf was wrong not to ask about why the coffee was not made for them. However, I bet the cook and staff were pissed about having some guest bumble around their kitchen looking for stuff and making a mess for them to put away when they could have made everything easily and more efficiently. When a guest washes and puts away a butterknife in the wrong place...who do you think gets blamed?
I'm kinda shocked at the comments and on all the opinions on story1. Nobody notices how OP did not even ask anything? They didn't ask the friend why is she doing this, and didn't even try to help her find her own hobby. Instead OP just told her that she can't find a hobby, didn't help her, so just called her out in front of everyone, and then OP even called her "ridiculous" Is this what you would say to your friend if you were worried about them? Because to me it seems like OP just looks down on her for struggling.
Well first of all you can’t imagine how excited I was for this upload on TH-cam 😍 you are the best crossover in all of the internet, thank you! Secondly, Morgan! I need this blanket! Like actually need(!) it. Can you please tell me where you got this blanket you’re wearing? Please? I really love yours and your dads podcast, you and all of your regular (and guest) co-hosts have the best takes ❤️
I love how invested Michelle is. You can tell she really feels the emotions by her gasps and reactions.
I love these types of guests who really want to be here.
totally!
her, the smosh cast (and hopefully more soon), and Chris Klemens are so far my fav that I've watched
Michelle's take on topics is very interesting, she has a lot of sympathy and thinks of different aspects. this is insightful
I agree, I really liked hearing the way she articulates her thoughts and her immediate reactions were very different from my own, which was nice to be offered different perspectives
I just looked at her content, I'm sure all those experiences gives her a really unique perspective on so many situations. Great guest!
Also what a lot of people forget is when you pull a “prank” about a serious situation and scare or upset a person then reveal its a prank, you still put that person through the emotional trauma as if it were real. They thought it was real even if only for a minute and had real stress and anxiety and even sometimes trauma
My take is that he already knew about the prank from the other husbands and thought OP would never stoop that low. 100% these “friends” have interfered with OP’s relationship before and this was the last straw.
This i honestly still haven't forgiven my mom and step dad for their April fools joke when I was like 10. They told me someone offered them like $4000 to buy my Siamese cat and that they just really need the money and we're hoping I could let them. I agreed while BAWLING MY EYES OUT because I understood how they struggled with money. Meow Meow was my BEST FRIEND it was such a cruel joke 🥺 I cried the rest of the day even knowing it was not real
@@amandar4689 It's so telling when someone in your life doesn't think anything about hurting you emotionally or physically. If they're amused by your distress, it's a sign.
@@somethingelse4204 sure is. I'm sure you not surprised I've had periods of no contact with them and limited contact now. Sted sad is now sober, but has never bothered to make amends with me nor his daughter (who he's wronged so much more) 🥺 it's good to see him sober and my mom happier but 🤷♀️ it's bitter sweet to be around them now cuz it feels like a facade (especially with their new and excessive relationship with the church) I do hope it's all genuine for their souls sake but it's hard for me to believe.
I wish we could hear the husband’s side. Is this something OP does on a regular basis? Not that I agree with the divorce prank, I just want to hear from him.
okay but in all seriousness....MORGAN IS THE PERFECT CANDIDATE TO BE A VOICE ACTOR FOR CALM. her voice is sooo soothing. i could be so anxious and once i listen to an episode i feel so relaxed, just by listening!
no seriously! i listen to reruns to fall asleep sometimes 😭
Yes!!! I do so many other things while listening to her. Her voice is so soft and calming. I love it
I love falling asleep to her podcasts!!
True this podcast is how I self soothe
When my husband makes a "joke" i find rude, offensive and/or just plain unfunny, I have started asking him " what's the punchline?" It has made him more aware about his "jokes" and more understanding of my feelings and my reaction emotionally. I learned that from here. Thank you Morgan and all the other THT hosts for helping me and my husband be more emotionally aware of how we speak to each other. It is a habit, clearly one he wants to break though. Thinking things through before you speak is something we should learn a lot earlier than our late 20s haha.
Story 3: I grew up around servants and even I get uncomfortable sometimes when other’s don’t treat them right.
The issue lies in the details; when someone’s job is to literally take care of your needs it can be difficult to separate their duties from your personal responsibility.
OP is considerate but they should consider the perspective of those servants; they’re attending to the people of the house’s needs, that’s their literal job. So to them, OP means well but is actually interfering with their work.
Even making the bed; my mother always makes her bed in the morning, but our maid remakes it to her standards 😅 she’s just like that, I ask her not clean my room and she does it anyway; it’s like an itch that she has, she likes to have things clean and organised and taken care of.
I love our maid, she’s part of the family, and she knows it. Just because you’re not used to something doesn’t make it wrong, sometimes you just need to be open minded to other lifestyles. 💁🏽♀️
I agree it might be interfering with the jobs. I was a housekeeper and a personal care aid, where I worked in people's homes. I would get a little annoyed when I was supposed to do something as part of my job and a client did it themselves. It made me feel like I wasn't good enough to do it for them. It's so weird because if I gave examples it would seem like the person was being really nice but I took it as a personal attack against my work. Also if you do my work for me, then I have nothing to do and I'm wasting my time.
In my country no one has servants. For many years it was the people here who would be servants for others, either for the colonising class here or by going abroad. I think maybe that's why it's the norm here to help cleaners or waiters etc. and to thank them profusely. When I was a child our teachers would have us clean the classroom at the end of every day and one time our principal said "you may think it's silly to clean this room when someone else is being paid to clean it later - but just because it's their job does not mean that we have to make their job harder". That seems to be the general attitude most people have here. Even if we don't do anything to actively help, people always ask if there's a way they can make someone's job easier - like moving out of the way if someone is hoovering, or moving all the empty plates towards where the waiter is so that they don't have to walk around into narrow corners. That sort of thing.
@@catbearaamen to this!!!!!
@@Fluffycara"It would seem like I took it as a personal attack against my work" But isn't that the case based on your comment? There's a difference between being upset that you weren't able to serve someone and being upset bc "it made me feel like I wasn't good enough to do it for them".
To me this feels cultural. Like, I would feel as uncomfortable as the bf, but I also know people have their own rules in their own home. Maybe you don't want someone touching your appliances because you're very particular and don't want them to start using your stuff? Maybe you don't want them coming into the kitchen? Maybe making your own food or drink looks like you don't like the host's? Being mindful of that and respecting others' life choices if they feel comfortable with it and/or take personal pride.
“Trash, recycling, compost. Put it on the curb” is iconic! Michelle is such a fun guest!
PLEASE bring Michelle back. She's wonderful
The end of Story 4 was SO SATISFYING after I thought to myself about how I would make a breakup PowerPoint if I were in that situation.
My wish came true 🥲
@@Smoshyprincess YESSS
Even better... the story made news and corporate found out..
Literally, every person in his office knows about it. He's "The PowerPoint Critic" in the office now. The biggest joke and legend.
He had to do a presentation, and everyone was cracking up, telling him not to forget the garlic, etc... karma was beyond sweeter than you thought.
@@kandythehauntedhippy An even more satisfying ending than I thought!!
in story 4, i big time disagree with morgan’s comparison to people without kids not being allowed to comment on other people’s parenting. we’ve all been kids. if someone in your life is being a shitty parent, you absolutely have the right to call them out.
Hard agree. Also; I'm child-free and going into psychology, where I may end up working with kids as a population. Where does that put me?
Especially considering how many weird and bad takes she and co-hosts have had on both parenting on pregnancy-stories on this channel 😬
YES. I had the same thought when I heard her say that
Not to mention most ppl who choose not to have kids know how hard it is to take care of them while a lot (not all) ppl who have kids just have them to live the traditional life without preparing or thinking about what that could mean. Most of the ppl in my life who have children are very neglectful and critical of children while most of my childless friends love children and have taken care of them or grew up with younger siblings so they understand the responsibilities that come with raising children.
WHY AREN'T THERE MORE COMMENTS ABOUT THIS
Second Story is wild! I cannot stand those Tiktok 'test', my boyfriend tried that 'can you make me some tea' one on me, I was not impressed.
Yes, I don’t get causing drama unnecessarily
Can you explain what the ‘make me some tea prank’ is? I haven’t heard of this one
@@lizannlabresh7213 it was a TikTok test where you film your partner and asked them to make you a cup of tea/coffee and if they do then they truly love you.
@@lizannlabresh7213 It started with this woman asking her husband to make her some coffee and him saying no very rudely then other women started recording asking their husbands to show how they would do it without hesitation
@@bigelowkaryn I hate pranks because other people's anxiety is NOT funny. But some of those "tests" are not that crazy because if you asked your partner to make tea and they said "no, that's your job" or some other rude thing then that is not "unnecessary drama" The drama is caused by the rude partner not by the test.
First story: NTA, a good friend would let their friend know that. It’s not healthy to build your entire personality and base your hobbies only on who you’re dating. It shows that she’s very insecure in herself that she relies on a man to know herself.
Second story: fuck around and find out unfortunately.
Third story: NTA. When I went to Thailand I found it so uncomfortable how people jumped to serve us and was always appreciative and tried to lessen their load. If I was with someone who lavished in being served and told me to let them because it’s their job I’d be very uncomfortable. I don’t think you can be the asshole for being put off by people being completely unfazed by being served like royalty. It shows they probably just aren’t compatible long term due to their differences.
Fourth story: NTA, if you can’t cook you can’t give coking advice
Yes! I agree with your take on the first story. And I’ll add that what her friend needs is some time alone. I don’t recall her age but it seems like she never had the time to gain a sense of self. She’s always someone’s friend/daughter/gf & didn’t develop an identity outside of what she can provide to others.
I would advise her not to invest so much too. It’s ok to take part while she’s around her gamer bf but she needs time to sit & think. Maybe create a vision board. Create standards and boundaries. Self love should be paramount.
I agree in part on the first one but i think the friend is a ahole because of her writing style, it seems like the she wanted to tell her not because she was concerned about her friends habits because they are unhealthy but because they're annoying
I agree that you should tell you friend if you have been noticing this and you think it has a negative effect on your friend (like spending money that actually will be missed when your friend is not super rich or having no personality / hobbies of their own. Some support in the direction of discovering what her own interests are.
BUT I can also see one might get frustrated with seeing this somewhat weird behavior and tell this insight from a place where you are just releasing this frustration you have. Both can be happening at the same time but it's important to deliver the message with your heart in it, with the goal to help her make her feel better. Can't really tell from this story which one it is this time
NTA, but OP maybe should have brought it up one on one, not at dinner on the spot with other people around in casual conversation. Like it could have been a jumping off point for a later conversation (hey, at dinner the other night you were asking about new hobbies and I was thinking...)
@@Slapchop721 I agree. I think it’s pretty disrespectful to air out someone’s personal business like that in front of people. I have friend’s that struggle with codependency in general in romantic and platonic relationships and I would never talk about this in front of other people.
I understand where the codependency comes from and while I get why it can be frustrating to people, I have a lot more empathy for why they are codependent.
I have 2 theories for the divorce prank: 1. I think the one of the “friends” likes the husband and the others think he’d be better with her, so they came up with the “prank” while planting doubt in her husbands head about his marriage before hand. Which is why he left without saying anything. 2. I think the husband and one of her “friends” are having an affair and the other girls know about it and are fine with it, so they all came up with the “prank” to give an easy out, the husband leaves without looking like a cheater. Just looks like he was “blindsided” and moved on after. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
Or maybe she fucked up and he has dignity and left
I think those are really good theories because there is for sure something missing here. Why did the friends want her to do it THAT badly? Why did he just take and leave without talking about it AT ALL? Idk I agree something else is going on
@@CrazyLikeChris absolutely could be that too, it’s just strange how abruptly it happened, a relationship or engagement I get it happening that fast but all the legal stuff that’s about to go down? Like not saying one word? Idk it seems off too me. Again she could just be someone who plays to much and he got sick of it, but it’s definitely a story that makes you think.
@@Steveve4123 exactly! The friends were plotting something deeper than a joke for sure
The second story either he’s just over her shit OR he was just ready to be over and just needed an excuse.
I paused this video just to check out Michelle’s page and see who she is. I ended up watching a few shorts…and the entire Houdini episode! Almost brought me to tears because you really form a bond with Michelle and are with her for the journey and each struggle. I found a new TH-camr to watch! Her videos are also extremely informative which is a break from my crazy Reddit drama lol. Thanks Morgan for introducing us!!!
5am and still haven’t gotten to sleep with my 5month old. Morgan entertains us on sleepless nights.
I love that you went and watched. Her videos really are so impactful! Also happy to keep you and the little one company ❤️
@@TwoHotTakes okay so it’s taken me some time to soak up the fact that The Morgan Herself responded to me! I don’t ever watch TV, I watch TH-cam. Morgan is my Hollywood Superstar. Im relishing in the fact that I got an actual response from the biggest TH-camr I follow. I have screenshotted it several times lol. I even got a heart celebration badge (which I didn’t know existed until now) lol!!
Wow thank you Morgan for gracing me with your textual presence. It is an honor. I still am in awe 🫢 your voice lulls my daughter in her chill zone. It’s great. Thank you for helping new moms stuck at home like myself stay sane! Xox we all love you
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I don’t think he’s the asshole for voicing that he felt uncomfortable, that being said from the information given it doesn’t sound like they were ever rude to the staff. All she said was “don’t bother that’s her job” and “you should have let the kitchen staff make your coffee” which are both true statements, more than likely they are being paid extremely well to do those tasks. It’s like if I went into a restaurant and was like “it’s ok I’ll go put my own order in and grab my own food” then the manager sends the waitress home because he’s overstaffed and she looses out on pay. You can feel uncomfortable and you can choose to not stay there again but it’s not your place to judge them for being wealthy.
Exactly! I think the gf was so right calling him out for judging how her family lives. Imagine if it was the other way around. If that’s what her family can afford and the people make a good wage and are treated well- I’m not saying it’s completely “right” but it doesn’t sound wrong. Even people of lesser means get maid services or dream of having private chefs because they hate cooking etc. Not everything that makes someone uncomfortable immediately equals wrong
Controversial I think the story 3 has no assholes. I totally understand why someone would be uncomfortable being served if they’re not used to it, I certainly would be, but the examples he gave of the mistreatment truly didn’t seem that bad to me. Maybe I’m granted them too much Grace and assuming their tone wasn’t rude/demeaning, but “oh you don’t have to clean, that’s her job” …it is, she’s being paid to do that. Plus, she presumably knows the routine in the house, much like how you’d do your own cleaning after a guest leaves even if they technically clean up after themselves. The only one I could see being bad is the coffee situation, but at the same time, if you paid someone to do a service and then saw them not doing a service, i don’t think it’s wrong to bring it up. Bratty on her part, sure, but considering it sounds like the family spoke to him before the chefs, i just don’t see anything wrong on their part. Again, though, this is assuming their tone wasn’t outwardly rude, which op doesn’t make it sound like it was, more casual, which can be expected if this is the lifestyle they’re used to but he’s not
I completely agree, it depends on the tone.
Cause as long as the staff is only doing stuff they've agreed on and not expected to do more than on the contract, it's okay.
And you can still do kind things within that agreement like, not leaving trash everywhere or maybe removing bedsheets when they need washing. Or make your own coffee when they're busy cooking.
And being kind to people makes them better employees. As a former hotel maid I really appreciated small things people did to make my job easier.
But saying it's part of their job isn't rude or unkind either.
Agreed, it would be uncomfortable for me as well, but from story I did not really see poor threatment described.
The coffee thing was petty af though. I wouldn't want a partner who tattles over small stuff like that. It's not like making coffee is a huge chore a person can't do. OP is also right in saying that his gf didn't even ask for context. I'd hate to have a partner who just assumes without communicating.
@@taeminislove I agree the Coffe was the only iffy one for me, should have been communicated better, and the partner also should not have been as upset, but i can see both sides as valid, just both need to understand, and explain their feelings better.
100% agree, they’re literally paid to take care of the house and the people in it… I think OP was just very shocked because they’ve never been waited on like this before and were spooked at the idea of having house staff in general
Story 4 OP is a legend. Also; Michelle's eyes when Morgan read the phrase "business consultant" is goddamn priceless.
Story 5: You know what they say. "Every safety rule has been written in blood." Respect safety rules they are often there to protect you from yourself.
I KNEW STAYING UP LATER TONIGHT WOULD PAY OFF!!! refreshed my youtube, saw a new two hot takes episode, and almost woke up my neighbors from my excitement...(and also accidently throwing my laptop across my room...whoops).
Loved Morgan giving her honest opinions and not feeling like she needed to go with the majority. That helps ppl hear the true consensus on things. She seems to really be growing into her roll and becoming comfortable with herself. Love this for her… and for myself cuz it makes her show even better. Always so excited to see a new video posted and makes cleaning oh so enjoyable. Thanks for the entertainment. -from another Midwest friend
20:28 I think Michelle hit the nail on the head here. It seems like final straw moment not a one time kinda thing.
with story 1, as someone who has borderline personality disorder i acted very similar to the girl blowing money before i started getting treated. when we form these anxious attachments with partners, we do something called mirroring. we literally mirror their personality, and this is done to an extreme extent when untreated. the impulsivity of blowing money is another symptom, and so is her feeling like she has no hobbies or general sense of self. additionally, when i was undiagnosed, i would also be the friend who “always had a bf” or was “always talking to someone” because of this lack of identity that comes from bpd. i’m NOT diagnosing this girl bc it’s such a complex disorder, but it’s something to think about.
with story 3, my take on what would be the ideal dynamic is that you let them do their job, because you respect their proficiency at what they do, but you also show that respect when talking to them. serving is their job, not their identity. i think in the end anyone should be able to feel proud of their skills and and feel recognised, respected and appreciated for giving you their time and effort, regardless of the nature of their job. it's as simple as that, have decency. don't do their work for them, but also don't disrespect them based on their work.
Yeah this is really well said. I've never been in this dynamic so I could understand OP feeling unsure of how to act. But service work can be a good job and deserves respect like any other.
I really enjoy this nuanced take. I agree this is probably the best for the dynamic….
But you got me fucked up with the turn and face the wall shit
@@sophiarivera7364 what do you mean "turn and face the wall"?
@ didn’t the family make them turn and face the wall while they were eating?
oh yeah, that's weird. thought it was something i said
2nd story: I think there's definitely something else we're not knowing about the situation. It's obviously just my opinion, but OP isn't taking any accountability for the prank. She says her friends pushed her to do it, but ultimately she made the decision to prank him,. She says she watched her friend's husbands reactions videos and then she was convinced, disregarding the fact that, as you said, is so manipulative to threaten your husband with divorce to make him change his personality. Also, as you said, she waited for him to leave the house to say it was a joke? Didn't cross her mind he might be in their room crying his eyes out? What the actual f??? Again, just my opinion, but how did this marriage work if after you asked for a divorce your partner gets up, lock himself in your bedroom (I'm guessing for a while since he was packing), and you do not get up to check up on them?
Story 4: I was shouting that she needed to make a presentation that would hit him where it hurt, I was legit cheering when Morgan announced that OP had indeed took to powerpoint herself! So satisfying
There's a further update
Corporate found out. He's the company joke now. You need to read the newest update. Absolute gold.
As far as story #3, I would love to offer a different perspective. Imagine staying at a hotel and making the bed. It might seem nice but it actually creates more work for the staff who have to strip the bed and clean the sheets.
Imagine ordering coffee at a coffee shop and going behind the counter because you want to make it yourself. You’re actually getting in the way of the staff, potentially making a bigger mess for them to clean up, etc.
Don’t interfere with someone else’s job. They are being paid to work a job they chose.
I think, personally, that in the context of the coffee it was more like a "normal" kitchen where he made himself a coffee. It would make me uncomfortable to feel like I'm pestering household staff when I can just as easily make myself a coffee, and for the girlfriend to complain to the mother about the staff not making the coffee before talking to OP first doesn't sit right with me. Although I have never had any experience with "household" staff and the whole concept is really foreign to me.
Agreed but… turn and face the wall?????
@@sophiarivera7364 backs to wall. so staff is facing the people eating
Story 1: I think OP is the asshole! Not because she gave her friend some tough love, but because she was pretty mean to her friend at dinner in front of their whole group. Like she could have said “oh you want new hobbies, let’s try out something together!” and then talked about the boyfriend stuff later.
"The psychology of boy-mons needs to be studied" is the truest statement I heard this week!
Edit: the BF in the last story is definitely trying to sabotage her. Not caring about the consequences in this context IS sabotage!
I was literally petting my cat listening to the last story and I was like this sounds like a kitty to me hahahaha this was a hilarious one to include!
Story 4: I'm a guy with 2 now-grown(ish) daughters -- 18 and 21.
I taught my daughters to cook, clean, sew. I also taught them to use power tools, program computers, do art, and play board games.
I'm both glad I didn't have boys (I'm not a sports guy), but also wish I did to explain that this shit wouldn't fly.
Fr. With a daughter of my own I was boiling at the thought she’d ever experience that. The op is definitely not an AH for not cooking but if she were my daughter I’d probably be telling her that she would however be foolish to just not cook instead of letting this be the breaking point it should be and leave.
What man is glad he didnt have boys and I am glad you didnt have boys too. We have enough simps and we dont need more.
Smoke detectors don't just detect smoke. They're more like small particle detectors. Which is why steam, perfume, febreeze, anything sprayed into the air can cause it to set off.
Found that out by blowing my vape directly into one by accident in a hotel😅
@hannahkendrick1983 this made me laugh out loud. Hahahah😂 oooops.
It was a running joke at my grandparents house growing up. There was a smoke detector directly outside of one of the guest bathrooms that we would set off with shower stream all the time.
Anyone know how carbon monoxide detectors work?
i kid you not i just turned your channel on in the first time in months LITERALLY not even 10 mins ago and you upload this at a radom time at night😭😭i just got scared asf, are you watching me morgz????
Maybe...
@@TwoHotTakes😂😂😂😂
@@TwoHotTakes I’m dead 💀 that took me out
@@TwoHotTakes @deadskyy444
Morgan is your FBI agent 🤣
Aussie here and i always cook dinner to your videos so this was great.
Country girl here and same lmao
@Soap-muncher56 they always post just as I'm getting started. It's great timing
Omg another Aussie here I do the same thing , makes a tedious task more enjoyable ❤
oh my god me too haha
OMG! I just did that TH-cam user recap thingy and it says I’ve listened to your podcast for 8,372 minutes! In hours that’s roughly 139 hours 😂
I guess thanks for you all being awesome and filling my head as I live my life lol. Y’all rock ✌️😁✌️
I need to do this! 😂😂 I’m guessing I’m about the same. Add in Father Knows and Midwest Married and it’s like half my time 😂😂
@@colbieads5536 Yes! I just started getting into Father Knows Something When I began to run out of THT. 😁 But never heard of Midwest Married. I'm gonna check it out. Thanks :D
never in my LIFE have i been this early for a video!! I’ve been watching your channel for what feels like forever. It keeps me company on my commute to work and when i’m cleaning the house. Thank you for creating a safe space for so many people :)
So happy you're here! We love that we get to keep you company
That last story had me FUMING I was so ready to go find that post & cuss him out but I immediately smiled after I heard the twist 😂
But I was thinking to myself. How can a 3 year old bully a teenager????? Like what 😂😂😂😂
STORY 4 HAS AN EPIC UPDATE!!!! He became an office joke and legend. You NEED to read it!!! It is amazing and made the world a better place. He made office rounds after being included in a few news stories.
44:10 to me this one’s crazy and it doesn’t matter what the pay is- there’s no check big enough to cover abuse. And her reaction proves that she’s a spoiled brat! This would be a deal breaker for me 🤷♀️
Story 3: This is something I've thought about a lot. I know OP is trying to come from a place of kindness but I've always wondered if this isn't just as insulting to the workers. It feels like he thinks having a domestic staff job is something to be pitied still like they're 1800s peasants or something.
For example, him listing the mom asking the housekeeper to make the bed as an example of something that "made him uncomfortable". Imagine if it wasn't a housekeeper but a plumber and she asked them to unclog a drain. Sure, that might've been something OP could've done themselves but I doubt it would make them uncomfortable to hear the mom ask a plumber to do that. And it also would not be weird for her to ask OP to let a professional handle it. But as a society we consider plumbing a respectable career and I don't think we can say the same for housework.
That being said, I do think there's more nuance to this story with the girlfriend being mad the chefs "let him" make a cup of coffee and the standing against the wall while everyone else eats seems a little weird. But yeah I don't think OP is actually helping any of them. I think they just deserve more respect all around
I totally agree with the verdict on story 3.
My mother works as a cleaner at hotels and when guests "tidy up" or "make their bed", it means nothing to her since she still has to do it anyway. The hotel has their own way of cleaning and making the bed. The guests can't know that because it's not their job to know that.
This man totally interfered with staffs jobs and, not to be dramatic but, belittled their work environment and profession. He's the A.
He was so judge mental of his gfs family AND the workers. As a cleaner I was a little offended ngl 😅
11:14 shes not 'exploring' hobbies if shes going all out and wasting her money, and then not even continuing to explore when she breaks up with the person
I’m not kidding when I say I nearly cried with relief at the last story. They really had me going.
For me the beach house story is like when they tell you not to make your own bed at a hotel, because the staff is going to have to remake it anyway. As someone who has both worked in service and lived in a house with a housekeeper, the one red flag I see is the girlfriend complaining to her parents about the cooks. But for example I have rented a place where the landlord paid for someone to come deep clean the house every other month, and at first we would really try to clean and tidy the place as much as possible the day before the cleaning lady came. Then we realized that by doing that not only were we unknowingly cutting her hours, but we weren’t doing as good a job as she would have done anyway. So we started scheduling her on weeks when we’re especially overwhelmed, this way she would get a full day of work out of it and we would get a break when we needed it most.
Omf!!!! Michelle Khare! The very first video I saw of hers was working out like a vs model, so inspirational and real about the entire process. Love your whole energy!
Please have Michelle come back! You both mesh so well together and seemed so genuine with each other!!
Story 5 is hilarious. “Lost at sea” when they could see her and called help for her and “navigation error” regarding her racing out into to ocean on a jet ski is hilarious
Story #6 No!!!! Way would I run without training. That is insane. And cutting the course for better time is also insane. I'm of the opinion that finishing something you started is more important then where you ranked in the end. I did a half marathon 9 months pregnant....I was also the last person across the line. But I was proud of myself for completing it.
At 9 months pregnant I was okay with going into early labor from how miserable I was. Running anything is absolutely amazing! I’ve only ever ran a 10k then got pregnant so never got to do a half. I’m currently 7 weeks PP. Seriously running a half is so so so amazing, congratulations!!!!!
story #1: NTA and there were a few things that stuck out to me in the story that make me wonder if the friend is possibly dealing with BPD and isn’t aware. always needs to be in a relationship, makes her partner of the moment her entire personality, takes up whatever interest her partner is into, and is willing to spend thousands of dollars rather irrationally on that interest just because their partner is into it. if they are possibly dealing with BPD, i wouldn’t be surprised if the friend was so hurt because they don’t know what their own interests are which can be a hallmark of the disorder. i don’t think the OP is the asshole, but i could see how the friend could be so hurt and reacting harshly if this is potentially what is going on.
Kinda agree with you. It reminds me a lot of Runaway bride
I was shocked he was voted asshole but my goodness, a true friend tells someone something they NEED to hear.... idk why someone is an asshole for that. It IS unhealthy to spend your time and money on something you don't fully care about. Jumping right into a hobby with no experience, you're gonna find out you don't like it... and basing all that on some guy is really sad ._.
@@internetclown904 I think we should be honest with friends but I think it’s incredibly rude to do so while out at dinner with other people. That was a one on one conversation that shouldn’t have been done publicly.
@ that's also true ^^ time and place for everything!
@@internetclown904 Yes, especially if you believe that friend is codependent. It would have been very embarrassing and alienating for her. Definitely a way to cause someone with codependency to spiral.
I think you can be honest but you communicate with empathy and meeting the person where they are at. I personally like directness so appreciate honesty but I think having tact is something that should always be a part of that approach.
Former search and rescue for the coast guard here. The AMOUNT of people that go out and have no clue what they are doing and don’t take any responsibility for putting themselves and their family at risk is mind blowing. That girl needed someone to call her out. Honestly, hopefully the shame of it all will sit with her long enough that she’ll think twice before doing something like this again. The speed at which a casual day out on the water turns into a tragedy is truly something that people should be more aware of.
I have been following Michelle since her buzzfeed days! I am living for this colab!!!! ❤
Story 3: OP is wrong. I'm poor as f***, but the girlfriend's family didn't treat the staff in an unconventional way. What the guy has a problem with is the family having buttlers in the first place, which is fine, but then he should have just said that. And the girlfriend clocked it because she said he had a problem with their way of life.
I kinda agree up until the bit where the gf complained to her mother about OP making their own coffee without talking to OP first about what happened. That gives me bad vibes honestly.
@@jameshorne3788i dont really trust ops account of her ‘complaining’ bc he is so judgmental in the first place
Story 2: im thinking if everything was actually going well, this could be a hard boundary for him. As in no matter how good the relationship if, he is not willing to bet his life on someone anymore after those words leave their mouth. Which I agree with honestly because I could never feel safe with someone after they said that and even if it was a joke I wouldnt want to be with someone who sees our marriage as the punchline of a joke.
Edit: this kind of sounds like the reaction of a traumatized person. I might be projecting too but since I have PTSD and severe trust issues, someone could go from a trustworthy person who cares about me to untrustworthy and unpredictable in a split second. And for me at least at that point, my mind wound start to wander. Would they hurt me physically too? Can i sleep next to this person? Can i eat anything they made me ever again? Would they light the house on fire and record me as im crying to get a cheap laugh?
She's so wrong for doing a joke like that I agree. But if he has no prior issues like PTSD or something else, her husband overreacted. I understand that she hurt him. But throwing away years of happiness over a joke without even communicating, or trying to fix it first says a lot. Again if he has no prior issues
Story 3: I agree with the top comment-it doesn’t seem like the family was being rude. It’s likely that the family and the staff have a mutual understanding of how things are supposed to be done, and they’ve been living in that functional dynamic for years.
I understand that OP isn’t used to this and might feel uncomfortable, but that doesn’t make it right for them to call out their girlfriend’s family. It’s understandable that the girlfriend is upset.
I’d say no assholes here; they just need better communication and understanding of each other’s very different backgrounds.
Not to mention the staff likely went back to make the bed anyway and might have felt uncomfortable with OP making their own coffee, as it disrupts their established routine.
Story 1: Absolutley NTA, everything we've been told indicates that the the friend has an unhealthy (and expensive) habit of hopping to her boyfriends' hobbies. It's actually dangerous in the case of the cobra. Cobras are NOT beginner snakes and if she's in USA or Europe, they are exotics, so there is no anti-venom in her country if she gets bit. Also, it's a living creature and it's usually a terrible idea to support the exotic pet trade at all. It's exploitative, full of bad breeding and kidnapping and poaching from the wild.
i think she needed to hear that it wasnt good but something about the writing style makes me feel like she was coming from a place of annoyance rather than concern
@@Jakkieeee perhaps, but I think annoyance is sometimes a warranted feeling if you feel like someone you care about is repeatedly doing something that is unhelpful to themselves. I've had friends get annoyed with me when I do stupid things over and over and I know they are coming from a good place still.
@@jjanon2371 Oh, like when your friend keeps on texting their ex?
@@jjanon2371 yeah i can see that, i guess i cant really say for sure where she was coming from
@@Jakkieeee exactly 😂
"Also, they are both cats." 😲🤣🤣🤣🤣 Just before you said that I was saying this kid is probably on the spectrum 😭🤣🤣🤣🤣
All of these stories about toxic "friends" are the reason I cut a lot of people out of my life. I keep my circle small with uplifting people. Will not deal with drama anymore! ❤️✨
54:11 I don't let my husband cook 😂 I love my pans and pots too much... BUT he is willing to learn if I need help, cuts the onions for my sensitive little eyes, and if I don't feel good, he'll fend for himself AND make sure that I have food. Also, I will not be that type of boy mom ... ever ...
Story 3: AH. It doesn’t sound like the family was rude to the staff, it sounds like he just didn’t like that they had staff. If he keeps doing their jobs then why do the staff need to be there. Maybe I missed where the family yelled or berated the staff🤔
I can agree that the first example isn't so bad. I can imagine the family telling their guests to relax and things like making the bed just aren't necessary because that's the job of the staff. It's literally their job. It's not offensive to say that out loud in front of the job. I am assuming they are aware 🤪.
The second example is a bit weird because the girlfriend just assumes the staff did a bad job. That could be very telling about her opinion of their staff. It could also just mean that she thinks so differently from her boyfriend that she would have never guessed he choose to do it himself.
The last example tho, that just feels degrading to me. Making their staff stand there. It feels like a movie. Then again, it's not what I am used to and I can see it can be seen as normal. That's a lot of words to tell you, I am not sure. 😂
@ so the 2nd instance could be perceived as rude but the 3rd account is not abnormal. I’ve been a server at private parties and it was our jobs to be at the ready…. It’s not like that for everyone but it isn’t unheard of.
I think he was probably more mad at how his gf handled the coffee situation. She literally tattled to her mom about him getting his own coffee like they're kids lol. I would be put off by that reaction, too. It would be different if she just would've reassured him that him asking them for the coffee isn't a bother.
@@premierebuerger4553 she didn’t tattle. She informed her mother that the staff they paid wasn’t doing their jobs. Which was the fault of the guest and not the staff but the point still remains.. Had the bf considered more than his feelings on wait staff maybe he would’ve understood that his helpfulness is just being in the way and gives the optics that the staff aren’t doing their jobs…
I mean, yeah, if their job description requires them to stand in the room during meals, I don't see a problem. It's not degrading. Where else should they stand/why does it matter where they stand?
I know the husband didn’t know it was a “divorce prank” yet but if I found out it was a “joke” I’d make that joke a reality in a heartbeat. Is our relationship a game to you? So immature. So hurtful. So childish. And she just let them peer pressure her into hurting him? So you can see whose feelings she cares more about.. her friends.
Especially with dating- I’ve told partners that I don’t do the whole ‘break up and get back together thing.’ If we’re over, we’re over. I’m not playing games..
We have to get you one of those like big red buttons that you can dramatically press that just says "THERAPY!"
I watch every episode of THT and i’m subscribed to the patreon , I recently just starting watching Michelle’s content for the first time in YEARS this past week and all of a sudden , she’s your guest I literally was so shocked 😂 ik it’s not rlly a coincidence but that just tripped me out
OP with the divorce prank,he already had one foot out the door,no one in their right mind would file for a divorce after 1 comment!
Maybe he had an affair and it was like, oh caugh. alright bye, or she`s played other stupid pranks on him and he was sick and tired of it
Both of these comments are so stupid. What she did was evil and wrong. It wasn’t “just one comment”, you can’t minimize this that way when the comment was “I’m not happy and I want a divorce.”
She said it herself that she saw something break inside of him. He was commited, and she decided to ruin their lives in a second with a terrible joke. What he did is sane and rational and correct. You sound like one of that woman’s psycopath friends that enjoys manipulating and playing mind games on their partners
Whats crazy is people being labled as over the top, when reacting appropretetly to someone saying they want divorce. Whilst reacating to a bad ppt joke warrants a breakup. Granted it was a distasteful joke, but what peoples limits are and takes are, is off base.
@@taylorstenhouse6168nah you don't throw anything away just like that. Something happened
Idiot, read between the lines. I bet this is not the first time and any fool that sticks around for threats deserves every coming at him.
Story 1 I 100% say NTA. I personally love gaming and I’ve been doing it for the past 18 years of my life. Even I’M not about to drop that much on a gaming computer. I don’t think dropping that much money on a hobby you don’t even know if you like is responsible and I’d be concerned if one of my friends made that decision too.
Was literally crawling into bed thinking about sleep then Gurl you post and I guess I’m staying up lol 😆
Story 3: At first, i was team NTA, but after hearing the top comment, I ended up going towards no assholes. It made me reflect on my time working at Little Caesars. I loved customer service and it was literally my job to provide it. I would be aghast if someone tried to place their own order or make their own food. Let me work for you, you just come inside and I'll make sure to treat you and put a smile on your face. That being said, I never had house servants growing up, and to be treated like royalty would throw me COMPLETELY off.
OP was voicing his concerns, and the gf took offense at his accusations. In his eyes, they're all being entitled pricks. In their eyes, they are allowing their servants to work and cater to their guests, but someone interfered and got them in trouble. If anything, i think it was probably the gfs responsibility to prepare him for an obvious shock, but despite that, no assholes. Just expressing feelings over an awkward situation for the guy who did not know how to handle and process it all
We are definitely gonna need some more Michelle here ❤ her commentary was immaculate. Witty, engaging, intelligent, and fun! Great show guys 👍
the top comment on story #3 opened my mind to a new dimension. after listening to the story i was like "he needs to leave his gf ASAP because wtf?" but then hearing the different point of view on the situation completely changed my mind...wow. this is why i love this podcast!
Story 1 is basically the plot to the movie Runaway Bride with Julia Roberts lol.
NTA.
Her friend is voicing her needs for new hobbies. After complaining she wasted $2500 on a gaming rig.
Which is the PERFECT opportunity for OP to tell her some tough love truth.
OP wasn’t even as harsh as she could’ve been.
Sometimes ppl need someone to be BLUNT with them for them to wake up.
That’s literally what friends are for. Not to feed into your unhealthy delulu cycles.
Story 1: codependency is one of my pet peeves so they were WAY nicer than I would’ve been. I also think, past codependency, anyone who’s had their friend massively fuck up and then be like “hm why is my life so hard” is insanely annoying 😭 sometimes people need tough love, and yeah the OP DEFINITELY could’ve said it nicer, but I completely understand why she was annoyed. There’s a difference between looking for hobbies and dropping $2500 once your bf says he likes gaming. Even in the pursuit of love or interests, actions CAN be harmful
Yeah we’re glossing over how she had to be talked out of buying a COBRA
Last story cracked me up them being cats totally threw me 🤣 but on a real nite they just gotta get that cat on a play-eat-groom-sleep Routine. Jackson Galaxy videos have taught me so much and made my life so much easier with my 3 crazy kitties!
There used to be a show called "my cat from hell" where they had someone come in and help with training tips. Sounds like OP needs to petition to start the show back up to be on it 😂
Story #3: I'm poor but yeah honestly nothing OP describe sounded like poor treatment of the staff (except maybe going to the mom about the coffee, but even then it's possibly because the mom manages that stuff typically). The staff are professionals being paid to do a job that they consented to do, and if anything the OP's attitude felt unintentionally demeaning as it was like he acting like they were indentured servants who didn't know better. You want to be good to house staff? Thank them for their work, tip them if they accept tips, and maybe even have an actual conversation and ask them what you can do to make their jobs easier. The bit about the coffee totally grinded my gears as I've worked in enough kitchens to know that professional kitchens have a rhythm that they do every day - and that dude was 100% getting in the way.
I listened this episode on spotify and didnt realize it was THE Michelle !! Love you guuuys😍😍
I was SOO MAD listening to story 8
HES THREE i yelled!! As a mama I was pissed 😂 so relieved
YESSSSSS MORGAN WE LOVE SMOSH MEMBERS!! They’re all the best!
One of the best guests you’ve ever had! Can’t wait to check out her podcast. I rarely get into other podcasts but she has a great vibe and I NEED to see the butler academy! 😂
On the butler story… I think also NTA. The boyfriend HAD to say something because it really speaks to a divide in values and expectations that needs to be discussed with a partner. He also waited until after the trip and I think that thoughtfulness makes me think he probably did approach it tastefully. A guy that is going to fly off the handle isn’t going to wait out of respect.
Lets go!! I've been refreshing the channel all day waiting for this one 🙌😂
This is my new favorite guest. Michelle seems so intelligent and well spoken. I love her takes since she sounds like she's experienced so many different situations in her life. I hope she comes back!❤
1:38:46 I am a mom and I got questions. There is something huge missing. ….i hate this man lol obviously typing comment while listening to story.
Story 1, NTA and I think a good friend WOULD tell their homies this. It doesn’t need to come from a therapist as feelings aren’t something we should be sheltered from. If the friend gets hurt/offended by the comment, then that creates an opportunity to discuss it more deeply. There are many times we avoid saying things that will ultimately help the other person grow and strengthen the relationship. And sometimes relationships expire. Really, think about the relationships that you’ve lost but the wisdom you’ve gained from them. We learn resilience through hardships.
Story 1 I think NTA. Girl needed some truth. The runner comment: It`s one thing hat hubby joins her on runs and tries, it. But imaiine he had right away spent hundrets on super expensive running shoes and a running outfit. For op she can join her dude in a game, try some game on her normal laptop. But investing thousands in a new gaming laptop, trying to buy a freaking cobra?
The second to last story reminds me sooo much of The Devil Wears Prada!!! That scene where Anne Hathaway gives all these lavish gifts to her friends/boyfriend because she’s starting to be successful at work and then she gets an important call and they toss her phone around so she can’t pick it up!!! The bf in this story is giving the chef bf in that movie!!!
I think I just fell in love with Michelle 😍 I like her input and vibe! Love this episode!
story 4: I cook every day, and I want to know if my boyfriend doesn’t like it and why. I don’t want to spend hours cooking for him, not to like it… But there is a way you communicate that, very touchy topic lol
Yeah, the smarmy bs he pulled was unacceptable. It's one thing to say "Hey a little heavy on the garlic this time" here and there, but it's way diffrent than compiling a list of criticisms over a period of time and going out of your way to make your partner, who does 100% of the cooking, feel small and stupid. That's not how you treat people. I really get the vibe he was seeing how far he could push op.
To me, a funny couple's prank is when you tell your partner, you'll give them a massage or cook them dinner or something, and they see you doing it with little tiny plastic hands.
Agreed. I could never hurt my husband like that. He has every right to leave in my opinion.
My favourite prank is to tell someone to do a chore and then they find out it is already done.
That last story leading up to the "they're cats", I was full on screaming "HE'S ONLY 3" to my TV fully believing it was about an actual human child 😂
“This is deep, rooted misogyny, and we’re playing it off as a joke” is the realest thing I’ve ever heard
Please have Michelle on the show again in the future! She's so kind and pays so much attention to the details in the stories, and really rational about the situations
Story 7 If he has a job I wonder if he answers work calls at all times, and is jealous that he feels has to answer all his work calls, but she doesn’t. Or maybe he is a boss that calls his employees at all hours and sympathizes with OP’s boss more than her.
The first story shocked me. I've been a pretty casual gamer most of my life but the last 2.5 years (since I got out of a relationship and had more time) I have gotten REALLY into it and I havent even had the gull to drop that much money on a setup yet 😅
Late night upload is very comforting, thank you
story #3 this reminds me of my entitled aunt. When we were in our teens we went to a hotel together and the room was a disaster. I made a comment about it and she said "thats what the maids are for", that's when i knew we viewed the world so differently and it always left a bad taste in my mouth. While part of me did think that it is part of the job, they are used to it and doing any of their work would leave them to have less to do meaning less money, that doesnt mean you treat them poorly. You can still treat them kindly and not treat them like robots while expecting them to do the same quality work
Thanks for being you, Morgan!
Thanks for being you and being here with us
I think the prank one was completely valid in her being the AH. But the husband needs to communicate. If there was nothing said and there were issues…like we can’t just walk away. I agree there’s info missing
hi from Ukraine 😍🇺🇦 just so you know I LOVE watching your show, you're the BEST
I really love Michelle's energy! This episode was chef's kiss
Sadly, the butler story, OP was the asshole. He was telling the tale exclusively from his perspective.
I've been on all three sides: server, guest, and host, and I can tell you that this man ran all the way to self-righteous hill to die there.
First, the hosts were not rude. They did not call the staff names or tell the driver to wash their knickers or tell the cooks to serve them breakfast in bed. They were simply acknowledging the fact that it was their job, and in a way, strengthening the relationship by reiterating that the staff was trusted to handle that.
By refusing, you made the staff look incompetent and if they were insecure or new they would worry about their place and position. People do take pride in doing their jobs right, and enjoy being valued for their work.
OP didn't move there. He was there for a short time which also coincided with a big event. He doesn't know them and possibly has never been a server.
I think the gf was wrong not to ask about why the coffee was not made for them. However, I bet the cook and staff were pissed about having some guest bumble around their kitchen looking for stuff and making a mess for them to put away when they could have made everything easily and more efficiently.
When a guest washes and puts away a butterknife in the wrong place...who do you think gets blamed?
I'm kinda shocked at the comments and on all the opinions on story1. Nobody notices how OP did not even ask anything? They didn't ask the friend why is she doing this, and didn't even try to help her find her own hobby. Instead OP just told her that she can't find a hobby, didn't help her, so just called her out in front of everyone, and then OP even called her "ridiculous" Is this what you would say to your friend if you were worried about them? Because to me it seems like OP just looks down on her for struggling.
you just knew when i was about to shower and needed something to keep the shower thoughts at bay! thanks morgan 🙂↕️
Well first of all you can’t imagine how excited I was for this upload on TH-cam 😍 you are the best crossover in all of the internet, thank you!
Secondly, Morgan! I need this blanket! Like actually need(!) it. Can you please tell me where you got this blanket you’re wearing? Please?
I really love yours and your dads podcast, you and all of your regular (and guest) co-hosts have the best takes ❤️