MMA has already overtaken boxing - but I remember how big boxing was in the 90's (was on TV everynight) the buzz I used to get for a Naseem,Barrera Benn Calzaghe RJJ Tyson etc fight for weeks in advance and I loved it. It was the middle of last week about 2 days before I payed any attention to the David Haye/Klitschko fight on sat and how depressing that was (which was prob biggest boxing fight since Lewis/Tyson 02). I now get that buzz looking forward to a fight for Fedor/Shogun,GSP even Cruz.
It could be that Marquardt and Sonnen might have a testosterone deficiency but they most likely took advantage of the condition as an excuse to train with high levels of it
Im not sure how it all really works, but is ppv>own channel? it would seem to me that their bread and butter are ppv sales. and it would seem that if they had a channel, that would mean they would be entitled to show free fights, instead of selling the live events at $50+ a pop.
@Grnvolpe exactly what i think he was trying to do. "ok i will train at high levels and by the time of the match i will be back to normal". His calculations were ALMOST correct, just off by a few days
KARYN BRYANT: read my earlier post about a division system this would enable typicallyWandy, Tito even Randy to still compete at a very high level but not hv to fight best of the best If thr was UFC1, SForce2nd,WEC3rd divisions. At the mo what happens if a 32 yr old fighter loses 3 or 4 fights in a row - they are banished never to return - atleast with my system if you are not perforning in the UFC you would be relegated to SForce etc and for the guys doing well in Sforce would be promotedto UFC
@mjb13ell Actually, The fertitta brothers own most of the UFC. Leaving Dana with much less than he should have. The things that this man has done for the sport are phenomenal.
@tubebunny7 as a fighter myself and having a basic understanding about biochemistry i'll tell you this. if you already have low testosterone and decide to just try and train harder to overcome it guess what happens. your body secretes more cortisol and in turn your testosterone levels will lower even more. it's ok to have to take testosterone to bring your body up to normal levels, just like its ok to take antibiotics to cure a bacterial infection.
@tubebunny7 no reason you shouldn't be able to use HRT if your testosterone or growth hormone levels are low. The pituitary gland is extremely vulnerable to damage from head trauma and when NFL players, boxers, etc. have been tested many have been low in pituitary hormones. It goes beyond athletic performance, HGH and testosterone are paramount in cognitive health, aging, and most bodily functions. If there is a standard and they are tested readily, there's no reason they shouldn't get therapy.
UFC has pride IFL WEC SForce - what it needs to do is run a league system ie UFC premier,SForce 2nd,WEC3rd - Dana White has been saying for last few years there should be more fights in UFC alone. The reason they cant is cos its a p p view and if they were every week not every1 can afford it. To subsidise this they need to get a deal with whichever station and you can subscribe for an annual fee of $30 for all WEC fights $50Sforce.With win/losedraw point systm to determine promotion/relegation.
You know what, actually this probably aint the place to talk about these kinds of things. SO I apologize if i came across racist, and for and rude comments. Feel free to say what you want about me, i wont reply back to you.
@TheRiobezerko At least we get to watch a legend step in the octagon & finally get to see Tito get fired which should have happen half a decade ago. 133 has Rashad Evans vs Phil Davis; Rich Franklin vs. Little Nogueira; & Belfort vs Akiyama. IMO slightly better but the following event 134 Brazil has some sick match's: Anderson vs Okami rematch; Rua vs Griffin rematch; Schaub vs Big nog.
TRT is wrong, though i like dan henderson. if you do not have what it takes anymore, that's just it. It's not fair to give a 30+ year old man the testosterone levels of a 20 year old man.
@BrannonMcConkey Tito beat Forest in April of 2006; & Ken twice in July & October... these where his last wins in MMA. Looks like the only person he has beat since then is his GF.
@LilBlitz116 I highly doubt pacman would last more than 2 minutes against any heavyweight champion of boxing. He doesn't have the power to finish big guys that are 200+ pounds & hit 2x harder than a lightweight... I doubt very much Anderson Silva would be Cain Velasquez either if this was an MMA debate. P4P rarely includes heavyweights because it is a speculated ranking meant to boost a lighter fighter by comparing boxers based on their ability to perform above and below their natural weight.
@AFKslashSLITTING Stay in the UFC Karo missed weight numerous times and Cheal Sonnen fights for a title and almost wins with the use of steroids. So if Sonnen the cheater and money launderer gets to stay and Karo gets fired and then hired back why should the always honest Nate be punished so harshly? Makes no sence my friend I have done my research and even watched an hour long interveiw. Here is the link if you'd like to see it. It explains a lot.
@LilBlitz116 I said best which would be the heavyweight champion of boxing... Pacman is only a good in the lighter divisions & would be destroyed in seconds if he fought most heavyweights.
Man I don't get this firing of Marquardt. Seriously he makes 1 mistake and his T levels the day of the fight were where they were suppose to be so technically according to the athletic commission he could have fought. This is White's stupidest decision I never seen Nate 3 other mistakes he speaks of and Nate told the UFC the day he found he had low T. Dana has let other guys back into the UFC after firing them for countless mistakes. This is all very scetchy and very unfair Nate could be a Champ
@FishcakeX Because thats Chael's second chance and that was Nate's 4th chance, according to him. Haters gonna hate, Dana gets so much shit for no reason.
@tubebunny7 working harder has nothing to do with the amount of testosterone you produce. i have no problem with the ufc kicking nate out since his levels were way above normal. what is your point here? anybody with a deficiency in testosterone production should work harder or shouldn't fight? do you know what testosterone does? how can you work harder if you aren't able to synthesize protein at a normal rate, produce enough rbc's etc.
@ZLeeJonZ As you say MMA is a passion, mine too and if u think of the figures for a realistic fee it wouldnt need to be much say a 1 off annual fee $40 if 100,000 ppl worldwide (and I bet would be nearer 1Mill+) that is $4m at least just to run the WEC - there would still be some amazing fights just because they are 1 or 2% lower than the best of the best. I mean thr is BW/FW/LW/WW/MW/LHW/HW.Its fastest growing sport in world yet thr is currently about 1 show/month for UFC/pride/IFL/WEC/SForce.
@LilBlitz116 P4P doesn't mean best in the world... that is the heavyweight champion. P4p is only best in a money weight fighter(able to be effective in multiple divisions.) Pacquiao is only like 120 pounds.. at the most 145ish... I agree he is skilled for his weight but normally little guys get slaughtered against heavier opponents which is why there are weight class's.
@paulyoc123 He means what he says.. Not making weight for previous bouts.. Abusing testosterone therapy just days before a headlining bout... costing the UFC money in advertisements... screwing over a main event... It's not like nate "the gatekeeper" Marquardt, Middleweight King of pancakes was ever going to hold a UFC title. He would have just been a gatekeeper of the Welterweight division.
@FishcakeX I like Nate as a person, but think besides ur butthurt or bias. Nate has been caught cheating with REAL 100% steroids before & he gave some excuse. K, gets a 2nd chance. Then he starts doing Testosterone "therapy" &gets caught super high levels & New Jersey suspends him. K, Dana gives 3rd chance. Then on fucking fight night, he gets caught high again and ruins a card, cost his company tons of cash. WTF u want? Chael got caught just with high testosterone and he is on his 2nd chance.
@tubebunny7 He needed that therapy. Look at that fight with Okami he looked like crap against a guy he was suppose to smash. Plus he was cleared by his doctor and perscribed to take it and told the UFC immediately. White himself didn't know but the other Zuffa staff did and they said for his case it was alright. On weigh ins he was just a tad over but they gotta draw the line somewhere and on fight day he was within the right levels. Doesn't look like cheating at all to me he hide nothing
@AFKslashSLITTING Oh but I have. And besides the research I've done I also know Nathan Marquardt. So yeah.... I win. Nate even admits it's his fualt for not being more cautious about it and thinks White's decision is just. That's how humble he is. Me on the other hand I mean cmon this can be overlooked his T levels the day after weigh ins (fight day) were where they were suppose to be. So technically he could have fought. Mr. White lets guys like Karo Perisian and Cheal sonnen........
Dana is bad for the sport, his unprofessional vocabulary is affecting the recognition of MMA as a true sport. Every interview he's in he uses profanity! Grow up Dana and represent the sport as a true business man. These athletes deserve a better ambassador than you. And the effect of that will be better pay for these guy's who put themselves in harm's way for peanuts, compared to boxing.
@rebeliza Why do you think? Its pretty obvious. Without them they end up just to skinny or too fat to compete against colored folk who usually just have superior genetics for muscle/power/speed. You do get some white guys with great genetics for muscle/power though. Like brock if he never took roids/hgh, he still would have been at least 220 pounds or so of muscle im sure.
@Immortalsyn83 Oh i ant talking about the terrible period in Us history were blacks were used for slavery. Thast far too short a time for genetics/dna. I would be going alot further back. Also i shouldn't have made such a broad statement simple fact is all colors have their Beasts and their weaklings , even blacks, even Brazilians and whites also . I made that comment previous to make that first guy understand why he sees more white people using roids in sports, which is sort of true.
@tubebunny7 Plus blatent lier, cheater, money laundering Cheal Sonnen gets to stay in the UFC and after Karo Perisian got cut for missing weight several times was brought back. This is Nate's 1st mistake in 6 years. And it's wrong for you and everyone else jumping on the opprotunity to dog Nate because he had a successful career you all wish you had. Quit envying other and grow up man.
MMA has already overtaken boxing - but I remember how big boxing was in the 90's (was on TV everynight) the buzz I used to get for a Naseem,Barrera Benn Calzaghe RJJ Tyson etc fight for weeks in advance and I loved it. It was the middle of last week about 2 days before I payed any attention to the David Haye/Klitschko fight on sat and how depressing that was (which was prob biggest boxing fight since Lewis/Tyson 02). I now get that buzz looking forward to a fight for Fedor/Shogun,GSP even Cruz.
Good interviewer--doesn't ask all the strange open-ended questions Ariel does.
Nate tested positive a few years back also
@OGDouglaz Dana said this was strike #4 for Marquardt...they don't usually fire guys for getting busted just once
It could be that Marquardt and Sonnen might have a testosterone deficiency but they most likely took advantage of the condition as an excuse to train with high levels of it
Im not sure how it all really works, but is ppv>own channel? it would seem to me that their bread and butter are ppv sales. and it would seem that if they had a channel, that would mean they would be entitled to show free fights, instead of selling the live events at $50+ a pop.
06:59
Rubs his nose - he's lyin'
rosie perez does mma reporting?
@Grnvolpe exactly what i think he was trying to do. "ok i will train at high levels and by the time of the match i will be back to normal". His calculations were ALMOST correct, just off by a few days
KARYN BRYANT: read my earlier post about a division system this would enable typicallyWandy, Tito even Randy to still compete at a very high level but not hv to fight best of the best If thr was UFC1, SForce2nd,WEC3rd divisions. At the mo what happens if a 32 yr old fighter loses 3 or 4 fights in a row - they are banished never to return - atleast with my system if you are not perforning in the UFC you would be relegated to SForce etc and for the guys doing well in Sforce would be promotedto UFC
Fool me once shame on YOU fool me twice shame on ME.. I love you but you got that wrong too... Great interview like always
Nate was crying on the MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani. He needs another chance.....I feel bad for the guy. I wish him well in the future.
@FishcakeX Chael didn't completely destroy a main event the day before the event. That's the difference.
3:38 LOL!
COULD SOMEBODY PLEASE BRING UP CHAEL SONNEN IN THESE INTERVIEWS
@mjb13ell Actually, The fertitta brothers own most of the UFC. Leaving Dana with much less than he should have. The things that this man has done for the sport are phenomenal.
i see both sides of the situation .. feel bad for nate but i feel where dana is coming from but also Nate
@tubebunny7 as a fighter myself and having a basic understanding about biochemistry i'll tell you this. if you already have low testosterone and decide to just try and train harder to overcome it guess what happens. your body secretes more cortisol and in turn your testosterone levels will lower even more. it's ok to have to take testosterone to bring your body up to normal levels, just like its ok to take antibiotics to cure a bacterial infection.
@tubebunny7 no reason you shouldn't be able to use HRT if your testosterone or growth hormone levels are low. The pituitary gland is extremely vulnerable to damage from head trauma and when NFL players, boxers, etc. have been tested many have been low in pituitary hormones. It goes beyond athletic performance, HGH and testosterone are paramount in cognitive health, aging, and most bodily functions. If there is a standard and they are tested readily, there's no reason they shouldn't get therapy.
@OGDouglaz yeah he didnt come in "juiced" 4 times though :P
I was waiting for the motorboat.
What's the Nate prob?
UFC has pride IFL WEC SForce - what it needs to do is run a league system ie UFC premier,SForce 2nd,WEC3rd - Dana White has been saying for last few years there should be more fights in UFC alone. The reason they cant is cos its a p p view and if they were every week not every1 can afford it. To subsidise this they need to get a deal with whichever station and you can subscribe for an annual fee of $30 for all WEC fights $50Sforce.With win/losedraw point systm to determine promotion/relegation.
Dana should jump in the octagon for a one off special event for charity...
would be grand!!
@FishcakeX
Because this wasnt Nates first offense like Chael. Not hard to understand, guy.
You know what, actually this probably aint the place to talk about these kinds of things. SO I apologize if i came across racist, and for and rude comments. Feel free to say what you want about me, i wont reply back to you.
"George Bush could never do the whole 'fool me once; shame on me, fool me twice; shame on you' thing..."
Apparently, neither can you.
@TheRiobezerko At least we get to watch a legend step in the octagon & finally get to see Tito get fired which should have happen half a decade ago. 133 has Rashad Evans vs Phil Davis; Rich Franklin vs. Little Nogueira; & Belfort vs Akiyama. IMO slightly better but the following event 134 Brazil has some sick match's: Anderson vs Okami rematch; Rua vs Griffin rematch; Schaub vs Big nog.
What? No motorboat?
@Brendanglo Well he didn't have the money to invest. I think they gave him a reasonable cut.
TRT is wrong, though i like dan henderson. if you do not have what it takes anymore, that's just it. It's not fair to give a 30+ year old man the testosterone levels of a 20 year old man.
Karyn Bryant is >>>>>>>> All
Well you cant give Nate a fourth chance, but you can give Tito teen chances, hes not going fair.
I like the part -- Tito hasn't won since 2006 and that win was Ken Shamrock...LOL!
danas famous words
"we will see"
big man
Lmao 10 years later its still true. “ well see what happens “
Danas a fuckin blink master. He blinked a million times.
@mjb13ell very well said
@AFKslashSLITTING not letting me post the link just go on mmafighting website and look for it
@BrannonMcConkey Tito beat Forest in April of 2006; & Ken twice in July & October... these where his last wins in MMA. Looks like the only person he has beat since then is his GF.
@LilBlitz116 I highly doubt pacman would last more than 2 minutes against any heavyweight champion of boxing. He doesn't have the power to finish big guys that are 200+ pounds & hit 2x harder than a lightweight... I doubt very much Anderson Silva would be Cain Velasquez either if this was an MMA debate. P4P rarely includes heavyweights because it is a speculated ranking meant to boost a lighter fighter by comparing boxers based on their ability to perform above and below their natural weight.
@tubebunny7 sorry are you a doctor to make a statement like no testosterone should be used even if your testosterone level is low?
@drohoe1 u need Joe to commentate for it... maybe against Scott Coker or even Ariel Hewani lol
@AFKslashSLITTING Stay in the UFC Karo missed weight numerous times and Cheal Sonnen fights for a title and almost wins with the use of steroids. So if Sonnen the cheater and money launderer gets to stay and Karo gets fired and then hired back why should the always honest Nate be punished so harshly? Makes no sence my friend I have done my research and even watched an hour long interveiw. Here is the link if you'd like to see it. It explains a lot.
@LilBlitz116 I said best which would be the heavyweight champion of boxing... Pacman is only a good in the lighter divisions & would be destroyed in seconds if he fought most heavyweights.
Man I don't get this firing of Marquardt. Seriously he makes 1 mistake and his T levels the day of the fight were where they were suppose to be so technically according to the athletic commission he could have fought. This is White's stupidest decision I never seen Nate 3 other mistakes he speaks of and Nate told the UFC the day he found he had low T. Dana has let other guys back into the UFC after firing them for countless mistakes. This is all very scetchy and very unfair Nate could be a Champ
@FishcakeX Because thats Chael's second chance and that was Nate's 4th chance, according to him. Haters gonna hate, Dana gets so much shit for no reason.
@Immortalsyn83 AGREE!
what he mean 4th chance
@tubebunny7 working harder has nothing to do with the amount of testosterone you produce. i have no problem with the ufc kicking nate out since his levels were way above normal. what is your point here? anybody with a deficiency in testosterone production should work harder or shouldn't fight? do you know what testosterone does? how can you work harder if you aren't able to synthesize protein at a normal rate, produce enough rbc's etc.
@ZLeeJonZ As you say MMA is a passion, mine too and if u think of the figures for a realistic fee it wouldnt need to be much say a 1 off annual fee $40 if 100,000 ppl worldwide (and I bet would be nearer 1Mill+) that is $4m at least just to run the WEC - there would still be some amazing fights just because they are 1 or 2% lower than the best of the best. I mean thr is BW/FW/LW/WW/MW/LHW/HW.Its fastest growing sport in world yet thr is currently about 1 show/month for UFC/pride/IFL/WEC/SForce.
@wildwolves8 Does that effect dana whites company? No
@LilBlitz116 P4P doesn't mean best in the world... that is the heavyweight champion. P4p is only best in a money weight fighter(able to be effective in multiple divisions.) Pacquiao is only like 120 pounds.. at the most 145ish... I agree he is skilled for his weight but normally little guys get slaughtered against heavier opponents which is why there are weight class's.
@paulyoc123 He means what he says.. Not making weight for previous bouts.. Abusing testosterone therapy just days before a headlining bout... costing the UFC money in advertisements... screwing over a main event... It's not like nate "the gatekeeper" Marquardt, Middleweight King of pancakes was ever going to hold a UFC title. He would have just been a gatekeeper of the Welterweight division.
@FishcakeX I like Nate as a person, but think besides ur butthurt or bias. Nate has been caught cheating with REAL 100% steroids before & he gave some excuse. K, gets a 2nd chance. Then he starts doing Testosterone "therapy" &gets caught super high levels & New Jersey suspends him. K, Dana gives 3rd chance. Then on fucking fight night, he gets caught high again and ruins a card, cost his company tons of cash. WTF u want? Chael got caught just with high testosterone and he is on his 2nd chance.
@sergewesker damn that creeps me out ...
but it will create a awesome moment if she reads it
@im2PacsFather hahaha thanks for making me laugh!!
@tubebunny7 He needed that therapy. Look at that fight with Okami he looked like crap against a guy he was suppose to smash. Plus he was cleared by his doctor and perscribed to take it and told the UFC immediately. White himself didn't know but the other Zuffa staff did and they said for his case it was alright. On weigh ins he was just a tad over but they gotta draw the line somewhere and on fight day he was within the right levels. Doesn't look like cheating at all to me he hide nothing
@BrannonMcConkey Tito hasn't won a fight since 2006.
@AFKslashSLITTING Oh but I have. And besides the research I've done I also know Nathan Marquardt. So yeah.... I win. Nate even admits it's his fualt for not being more cautious about it and thinks White's decision is just. That's how humble he is. Me on the other hand I mean cmon this can be overlooked his T levels the day after weigh ins (fight day) were where they were suppose to be. So technically he could have fought. Mr. White lets guys like Karo Perisian and Cheal sonnen........
@AFKslashSLITTING .
i guess being accused of money laundering isn't that bad, lmao
@im2PacsFather Hes a lemon
Im not taking sides but i must say, your grammar is scary bud.
@deidara13579 you mad because someone has acomplished something in life ? UMAD?
@Brolicplayer gsp isnt entertaining either soooo yea
@oleHABSole i do gymnastics lol
Dana is bad for the sport, his unprofessional vocabulary is affecting the recognition of MMA as a true sport. Every interview he's in he uses profanity! Grow up Dana and represent the sport as a true business man. These athletes deserve a better ambassador than you. And the effect of that will be better pay for these guy's who put themselves in harm's way for peanuts, compared to boxing.
Nate made too many mistakes that is plain and simple
@Immortalsyn83 lmao
@rebeliza
Why do you think? Its pretty obvious. Without them they end up just to skinny or too fat to compete against colored folk who usually just have superior genetics for muscle/power/speed. You do get some white guys with great genetics for muscle/power though. Like brock if he never took roids/hgh, he still would have been at least 220 pounds or so of muscle im sure.
@Immortalsyn83
Oh i ant talking about the terrible period in Us history were blacks were used for slavery. Thast far too short a time for genetics/dna. I would be going alot further back. Also i shouldn't have made such a broad statement simple fact is all colors have their Beasts and their weaklings , even blacks, even Brazilians and whites also . I made that comment previous to make that first guy understand why he sees more white people using roids in sports, which is sort of true.
Karyn, will you marry me or not ??? give me an answer
@napalmsunrise83 WTF??
Lol I love how she goes straight for Bush bashing when Obama's own mouth is a gaffe machine, I guess I know where she is politically
@tubebunny7 Plus blatent lier, cheater, money laundering Cheal Sonnen gets to stay in the UFC and after Karo Perisian got cut for missing weight several times was brought back. This is Nate's 1st mistake in 6 years. And it's wrong for you and everyone else jumping on the opprotunity to dog Nate because he had a successful career you all wish you had. Quit envying other and grow up man.
@maddencritic Haters going to hate
i just see the funniest vid
youtube spineless amateur gymnast
so damn hot that woman...!
@oleHABSole lol u sure its not because ur not athletic enuff lol excluding the russians of course
tito cant win HA HA HA