Top 5 pickleball shots to take your game to 4.0+ | ft. Tim Buwick
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- Do you want to elevate your game to 4.0 and above? PPR Certified Professional Tim Buwick shares his top 5 shots to raise your game to the next level.
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Watching this makes me excited to hone my skills and hit that 4.0+ level. Consider trying it out with an Oliver-Sport paddle because its so good!
Thank you!. I'm glad it got you motivated!
I love the roll or flick into my opponents chest or shoulder. It's such an addicting shot because it really demoralizes your opponent with a feeling of helplessness because they can't react to it LOL
Exactly. I like to keep in my mind, "what strategy/tactic/shot can I use to make my opponent uncomfortable?"
hitting to their dominant shoulder is what I call "the jam". I also like when they squat down to hit "the scorpion" - gotta love these shot names right ?
Great tips - this is probably the best pickleball instructional video on TH-cam.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Tom. Much appreciated. I hope this helps in propelling you to the next level!
You much not watch very much of the instructional videos. There are Many videos more comprehensive and better.
@@robinrobine8100 I watch a ton of pickleball videos on TH-cam and this one was right up there with great usable content. With detailed explanation and videos showing what he's teaching.
@@Yielar1 Thanks Craig. Different strokes for different folks and I'm totally fine with that. ;-)
I like the way the instructor jumps in there and demonstrates . This a great way to teach, talking while folks are playing
Thank you! I hope you found the tips helpful. Onward to the next level!
So helpful. Liked and subscribed. Thanks!
Great video straight to the point with good visual examples.
Thank you!
Great instruction. Drills that are specific and strategic. I work with Pros/Instructors arranging Caribbean Pickleball Vacations. Would love to have you as the Pro/Instructor to allow players to work not only on their skills but enjoy all-inclusive resort living for a week. It is a great combination.
Love these videos
I'm glad you like them. I hope they help you get to the next level!
Excellent video. Thanks!
Much appreciated. To 4.0 & beyond!
Good info. Thank you!
Much appreciated!
This is my first time watching your video, extremely helpful. Thank you.
I'm glad you found it helpful, Wong. Please keep us posted on how you're progressing!
This has become my favorite teaching video. Every one of these skills are so needed in my game! Thx for helping me get to next level. Will keep you posted with my progress
Thank you, Joseph. Look for more teaching videos coming soon. And do keep me posted on your progress!
Appreciated the instruction, specially the grip strength. Very few videos provide that information. Kudos !!!
Thanks for watching...and the feedback!
Love the fire in the belly approach. Makes it fun.
Thanks for watching!
Glad you enjoy it! - Total Pickleball
Good advice. Appreciate the video
Thanks for watching, Michael!
Clearly presented! Thanks :)
Thanks, Laura (if this is indeed Laura)!
Liked and subscribed. Great video. Thank you for this!
Thanks David. Glad we could be of help!
Excellent!
Thanks, Barbara. May the dink be with you!
Great lesson here. Much appreciated! let's go 4.0.
Glad we could help!
Thanks, Curtis. Much appreciated!
Great video. Thanks
Thank you!
Im coming from tennis, this is the best PB videos ive seen thus far. Thank you sir.
Thank you. There are some fundemental differences between tennis and pickleleball, preeminent which is patience. I trust you will highly enjoy and appreciate your new sport!
Great coaching in this video! I have only been playing for a month and a half and feel this coaching raised me a full level immediately after watching! Thank you!
Hi Tom, so glad to hear this! That's why we did the video. Keep moving up, my friend!
this was great!
Thanks. I hope it helps take your game to the next level!
Tim - have heard (close to) the same points on other videos . . . . BUT the words used make all of the difference for things to sink and resonate and I think you explain it best. Already re-watching your video and anticipate doing so over and over
Thanks for your comments, Steve. I hope it helps you get to the next level!
Probably badly the single most important video on stepping up a level! Thanks for coaching 🙌🏽
Thanks for checking it out - glad it helped!
Thanks for the comment! Please keep us posted on your progress.
TIM....killer cool!! well done!
Thanks, KJ! Are you also playing this addictive sport?
First time came across the channel. Watched few different videos while started playing a while back. Wasn't playing consistently to try to improve or serious drills. After playing for few months, got me addicted. now, trying to improve the game to next level. These are exactly the type of top quality, specific drills I'm looking for. Well explained. thank you.
Hey Mey, I'm glad you found the videos helpful...and happy for your newly found addiction!
The transition volley/reset really changed my whole game. Once I got use to working my way up properly, but just landing a third shot drop and charging to the line is when I got much much better . Essentially just learning how to maneuver around the court. Changes everything . Great video 👍
So happy to hear about your progress, Julien. Keep up the good work. Onward to the next level!
Great info!!!! Very, very, very understandable. Thank you for this most excellent video. I love your teaching style, too!
I'm glad you found it of benefit. Please keep me posted on your progress!
You're so awesome!
Thanks, Portland. So are you!
Sensational
Thanks, Shelley. Here's to your continued positive pickling!
Excellent explanations
Glad you liked it!
Comprehensive and yet, simply put! This info you can take to the court & work on. Each point Tim makes will take time to master, so it's definitely "patience grasshopper." Tim even covered the foot movement in transition & the ☠️ death grip. Well done. 1st time video watcher. ⭐
Thanks, Diane! May I use the term "patience grasshopper"? Great phrase. May you hop to the next level soon!
@@timbuwick sure! I "poached" it from the old Kung Fu series w Carradine. When someone hastily tries to drive a low ball at the net, I use the phrase lol. Signed, wannaBa5
@@dianebriggs8797 Perfect. Love it! ;-)
wow, what a great teacher
Thanks Bob and thanks for watching. I hope it helps!
Thanks. I've saved this video. You've done a great job of helping me focus on these essential skills and I know you're right! I'm stuck at 3.0 (for now)
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Doug. I look forward to hearing how you are advancing towards 4.0!
Tim resonates important, simple steps. Coming from tennis and squash, I need to work on shortening my swing and harden my wrist action. thx!
Thanks Jody. Remember "less is better." Stay calm, quick, and compact for better results.
Thanks.
Good presentation.
These are all well known but explained well...
Thanks for watching...and your feedback.
Solid advice. I've started playing, after coming over from tennis, and man, that 3rd shot drop is a killer. The rec league players love to bang- no thought of the 3rd shot drop. It's tough when trying to incorporate it into my game, because a long drop is going to sit up and be smashed back at me by the bangers. Guess it's just going to take some humility and practice.
Drops from the transition zone or baseline are difficult to master getting it to drop right over the net, but definitely worth it in the long run.
Mastering the third shot is key to taking your game to the next level. Just because it's the third shot doesn't mean you always hit a drop. It depends on the circumstances. Sometimes it might be the 5th, 7th, or 9th shot drop based upon what your opponent does. That said, practice the drop in every drilling session from multiple spots on the court. I promise you, it will be worth the reps!
@@timbuwick I watch what some might consider a slightly obsessive amount of pickleball videos, and yeah, there's no doubt that the drop shot is absolutely necessary to get to the higher level. It really seems like the divider between decent and really good players. And there's no substitute for practice and taking my lumps while playing. Thanks!
@@casperthegm741 So true. Keep working at it! Please let us know how we can help. Since you write that you watch "a slightly obsessive amount of pickleball videos", what topics would you like to see us cover next?
@@timbuwick Thanks for the great video! I watch a lot of videos and this one was very detailed and easy to follow on what we need to do to up our game. If you could do a singles strategy video I’d appreciate it. I’m not seeing much on that and I like to play singles. Thanks!
Thanks for the recommendations. Newbie here with about 15 hours of play time. Picked up the Vadic Prism Flash. Good control and feel. Great paddle for $90 with a nice cover as a bonus.
Thanks for the feedback, Peter!
Good afternoon sir and hello from New York City want to go ahead and tell you I enjoyed your video I like the way you explain it and I like your energy looking forward to working on these five tips and becoming a 4.0 and above player.
Very much appreciated, my new friend! Please keep me updated on your progress. You got this!
One of the best videos I have watched. As a teaching Pro, I utilize the same techniques. So many of the videos out there are from ex-tennis instructors teaching tennis technic over pickleball techniques. Yes, I compete, 4.0 tennis player/national ranking in squash
Glad it was helpful, Jim! - Total Pickleball
Thanks, Jim. I appreciate the feedback. Squash is also a great game, although I haven't had a chance to play it for many years. It has some of the same elements as pickleball in that you are required to hit a variety of shots the require touch, power, & placement.
Good
Top spin roll 3rd shot drops at the kitchen sideline T are also extremely deadly
Well explained. Im just about there. Now to become more consistent.
Thanks, Tommy. Just make 'em hit one more shot!
Thank you so much Tim, for an outstanding instructional video! I've been teaching pickleball for 44 years and always enjoy learning from other instructors. Your information and delivery is spot on! Your explanations and demonstrations are excellent! I look forward to watching your other videos. Keep up the great work!
P.S. I never knew Ektelon had entered the pickleball market? I played tournament racquetball forever with my Ektelon 250G!
Wow, I have to say that I am happy you took the time to write in with the details on you being familiar with, and teaching pickleball for 44 years. My parents built an official pickleball court in our backyard in the mid 1980's, and have been playing ever since. I thought I owned the UPD (ultimate pickleball dinosaur) award, but I have to concede your time line eclipses mine! In terms of the instructional content, we are also happy that Mr. Buwick's easy-to-understand approach to stroke and strategy improvement helped out. Lastly, keep an eye peeled for some new paddles from Ektelon. The update to the Inferno (the one Tim uses in the videos) replaces the fiberglass composite surface material, with raw carbon fiber, maintains the comfort oriented EVA in the handle, and improves the durability of what was an already sturdy paddle.
Mark/TP
P.S. If you would like to further elaborate on your past, and present experiences with the sport of pickleball, I would love to hear them!
Thank you for your kinds words. Very much appreciated! Teaching pickleball for 44 years?! I am honored to hear from such an esteemed veteran. I applaude your life-long learning approach. May there be more people like you!
Great instruction Tim!! You’re a Platform Tennis Professional also, RIGHT!!
Thanks for watching and yes, you are correct that I am also a paddle pro. Two excellent sports to play for a lifetime!
Great video. Since the third shot drop is so important, I feel there could have been more on that. For consistency, you want the same locked wrist and elbow as when dinking. When hitting a forehand drop, the right-handed player wants his left foot out in front and body turned, not facing the opponent (as seen in the video) for a back-hand drop, right foot out front and body turned.
Thanks for your comments. I'm glad you found it helpful!
This is a great video! #4 is by far the biggest reason people win or lose. It is the shot that levels the playing field and removes the non servers advantage.
Thanks, Ronald. I hope it helps you get to the next level!
Nothing new here but great explanations and demonstrating. And thanks!
Thanks for watching, Jim!
Glad it was helpful! - Total Pickleball
Good stuff and good coaching demeanor by Tim,
Wow! "God stuff" ? I didn't think it was THAT good! ;-) I'm glad you found it helpful. My best to you!
It was good...but not God good 🙂@@timbuwick4153 let me know if you make it out to Arizona?/!
@@j.kimodejon3004 Will do. A trip out there is likely at some point. Where specifically are you located?
@@timbuwick4153 We are half-way between Phoenix and Tucson - Casa Grande - in Robson Ranch Golf / Pickleball Community.
Great tips! Just wondering about the apex of dinks a foot from your side of the net. Can you explain more about that?
He means the ball needs to be dropping before it crosses over to the other side of the court. Otherwise, you're dinks will be likely too attackable. If you're apex is over the net, or worse yet, a foot passed the net, you'll be setting up the other side for a winner.
Well said, Derrick. The key is to keep your opponents contact point low. If your dink is too high and/or deep, you likely will be giving your opponent an attackable ball.
Love your 5 shot video! Spot on recommendations! I had a few question about your ready position when volleying the ball. 1).Out of Curiosity. Starting with paddle ready position at 10:37 / 1:37 vs 10:30 / 1:30? (I teach the 10:30 / 1:30 why the 7???) 2).bodies
Hi Tim (love the name), thanks for your feedback. In answer to your question, it's simply a memory device. No science behind it, obviously. And I actually had a comment to correct me. He said, "It should be 10:37am & 1:23pm to make it 83 minutes on either side of noon." Pickleball players make those that play chess look dumb ;-).
excellent stuff, thx we are beginnners wanting to get better
Thanks, Joseph. Keep working at it!
This was straight forward and great advice, thank you 🙏
I'm glad you found it helpful!
You are Fantastic thank you
Tim is my Pickle Hero. He has got me climbing towards 4.0. I cant wait to get back on the court.
John Riley
Thanks, John. I look forward to hearing about your climb to 4.0...and above!
@@timbuwick Im climbing but i feel the need for a 3-dive
A great video! Should I return from serving in deep baseline or drop in the non volley zone?
Hi, it depends. If the returner (your opponent) stays back, keep them back there with a drive. If both your opponents are set at the non-volley zone (kitchen) line, you most often want to execute a drop to give you the time to get to the line. There are exceptions of course, which I'll address in future videos. Thanks for watching!
I'm still newer to pickleball, just started this summer and played with my new CRBN2 paddle yesterday. On the third shot drop to clarify, you're saying to get your feet set and hit the ball? Basically make it more of a priority to make sure you hit the ball well and then move up if you think it was a decent shot? I'm still to the point on the 3rd shot where I hit a decent amount of them in the net or too high where they smash it, wonder if I'm trying to move up to much and maybe rushing it. Greatly appreciate the video!
Hello FG (if I can call you that). Essentially what you write is correct. Often we are so focused on getting to the line that we forget that we have to hit the proper shot to get there. At the very least, decelerate as you focus on hitting an effective shot, then move forward towards the line. If it's a poor shot, don't "follow the garbage." Wait for your next opportunity to hit a better shot to move forward. Thanks for watching & keep the comments coming.
Thanks for the video Tim, it is very well done, spot on, and shows exactly a number of things I had questions on. During the video, you suggest aiming dinks closer to the NVZ line. I need to try this intention more. But my real question is, where do you aim the 3rd shot drop? I find I am hitting the net way too often. Point over. At least if you hit a drop too deep, they need to get it back, even if it is an easy slam. Thoughts or advice? I find myself aiming for the back hand NVZ line area a lot. Thanks! ps, more videos please
This is definitely a shot that requires practice and precision to execute correctly.
It is more ideal to hit the drop closer to the net than the kitchen line to avoid giving away an easy shot, but most important is clearing the net. Try aiming a bit deeper for now to avoid hitting the net while working on mastering the placement of the drop. - Andrew, Total Pickleball
Hi Steven, smart question. A few key points to remember: 1) The apex (top) of the arc should be well on your side of the net with the downside of that arc as it crosses the net. 2) Your opponent should be forced to hit the ball when it is low, regardless of whether they can do it off the bounce or as a volley. They should have to hit up on the ball. 3) Clearing the net is job one. It it's a bad shot, don't "follow the garbage." Wait until your next opportunity to hit a better drop. 4) Many players hit this ball too flat. The sole purpose of this shot is to allow you and your partner to get to the line. Get enough arc on it to give you time to get there. Hope this helps!
@@timbuwick Thanks guys for the answers, lots to work on, maybe a video on 3rd shot drop techniques and strategies is needed for us slow learners!! Thanks again!!
Bad tips for your third shot drop - aim for the backhand side of whoever your dropping to - and aim just before or behind the NVZ line. It will be returned before or after the bounce but will be an unattackable or neutral shot. Next, wait for the return of serve to bounce, reach the apex and start to drop. Now the ball has slowed enough to make correct placement much easier. Ben Johns just did a short video on this.
Try watching videos from teaching pros, which are most pro cuz PB doesn't pay that much yet. Try John Cincola-top 10 in singles at age 42. He’s a pro level instructor and easily has the best instruction for 4.0s and up.
Nice video, thanks for showing us!
I am new to pickle ball: Could someone tell me the differences between a drop shot and a dink shot?
Thanks!
Hi Derek, a dink shot is hit from the non-volley zone "kitchen" line, whereas the drop shot is hit from further back in the court. A good drop shot gives you the time to get to line and good dink shots help increase your chances of getting a higher, more attackable ball to hit. Thanks for watching!
@@timbuwick Thanks dood, makes sense now! I was analyzing the shots in so many videos and not seeing the forest for the trees haha
Under master your volley skills, you talked about keeping your paddle up and frame compact. How do you do that and also be ready for the forehand roll?
Excellent question, Chantal. Most often you'll execute the forehand roll when involved in the dinking game. You want to have you paddle up to guard against an attack volley. When you are quick to recognize a dink, that's when you drop the paddle head to hit the shot. If the dink is a bit too high and deep, that's when you have an opportunity to hit the forehand roll. It takes practice to learn when to go for it and when to wait.
Can you explain the mechanics of changing your grip? Seems like in a split second from dinking to the roll there so little time to switch. Thanks!
Hi Terrance, thanks for your question. I've had others ask that, as well. It is very subtle and yes sometimes you won't have time to make the adjustment. I hold the paddle with an extremely loose grip so it only takes that split second to make the slight adjustment to the semi-Western grip. Experiment to find what works best for you!
3:54 it would seem that a somewhat bent-kneed slightly wider than hip-width stance would make you more mobile and reactive than standing straight up. It would also let you shuffle side to side. You actually go into this stance after saying to stand up high.
Thanks for the comment. Noted on the distinction. Balance and reactive mobility are essential NVZ line play.
Can you do top 5 shots for pickleball singles.
Great suggestion. It's on the list!
Tim love love love how you teach perfect do you do clinics?
Hi Stephanie, I thought I had replied to this but evidently I didn't hit send. Thanks for your kind comments! Yes, I teach in Charlotte, North Carolina. Please keep me posted on your progress!
@@timbuwickwhere do you teach in Charlotte?
I am Director of Paddle Sports at Olde Providence Racquet Club. I teach at multiple locations around the city. Please let me know I can help you!
For the forehand roll coming from a series of dinks, are you really transitioning from a neutral grip to a topspin grip at the moment you sense an attackable dink, or are you already dinking from a topspin grip? Seems like it would be a bit tough to effectively change the grip so quickly.
Hi Michael, good question. Experiment with this. The grip change is subtle. You can adjust slightly with a very loose grip. It's not for everyone and may not even be necessary if you have a standard Eastern forehand grip and do an effective job of dropping the paddle head with you palm facing the net.
For the forehand roll, how high does the return attempt have to be for one to be able to attack it with the forehand roll? Is there a general guideline as to a distance or a rule of thumb for an acceptable shot to attack (example: like head height)?
Hi Bryan, great question. In general, I like to attack when the ball is slightly above my knee to my navel. Those reference points may be different for you, as I have never been confused for an NBA player. Hip high is another simple identifier. This shot allows you to hit an attack shot from a lower point. Remember: your paddle starts below the ball and you accelerate quickly, brushing up on the back of the ball while finishing your stroke with the paddle above your opposite shoulder. Practice from varying ball heights to see what works best for you. I hope this helps!
@@timbuwick Also, can one use the same grip type for all of these shots? What type of grip do you use?
@@bryanyee7 No, you don't want to use the same grip for all these shots. The continental or "V" grip for volleys would make it virtually impossible to hit the roll. This is why you want to use the Eastern forehand or semi-Western grip to get the proper spin on the ball.
We absolutely DO have a "dink" in tennis and as an old guy I use it ALL THE TIME
Technically, the dink is hit (in most cases) with a relatively firm wrist and elbow, rotating from the shoulder. We rarely, if ever, use this stroke in tennis. The closest thing in tennis is the drop shot, which is executed differently. The closest thing to that in pickleball is the drop. Hope this helps!
I wish I had him as my coach
He's a great instructor! - Total Pickleball
Thanks for watching Emmanuel. What topics would you like to see us cover next?
How do you switch grip so fast for the forehand roll.
Great question, Bob. Holding the paddle loosely with a loose wrist is critical to achieve success with the forehand roll. When you see a "rollable" ball coming to you, execute as suggested in the video while subtly shifting your hand clockwise on the handle (for the righthander). Admittedly, this takes much practice and simply can't be done on some shots hit hard at you. Experiment and use what works best for you!
You can practice quick grip changes at home sitting on the couch. Don't even need a court. Play a point out in your head and just go through the desired grip changes.
Good grip ✅
Good stance ✅
Midwest accent ✅
Thanks Brandon! You can take the boy out of Chicago but you can't take the Chicago out of the boy ;-)
You can spot the good players by there volley from the transition area. A shot normally not used by 3.5 and lower
Well said; it's a very important shot to have in the arsenal.
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Better etiquette would be - you can tell the higher level or more experienced players do this or do that.... js
I am a little confused. In doubles. Do we return to our original court positioning after each side out or stay where we were at the end of a point? Let’s say I began on right side beginning the serve. If we stay in our right/left court side after the end of a point, I may end up on left hand side.
If we don’t return to our original position then at some point the score may we odd and if the opponent is side out and we begin serving again on right hand side then that rule cannot apply.
I’m confused…
You want to make sure you are on the proper side of the court before the serve happens. During play you can move wherever you want, but serving must be done from the proper person on the proper side. When a side out happens you likely just lost the point so you would not change your court positioning. A great way to think about it is this: "Where did I start when the game began?" If you started the game on your right side, you would be in that same position whenever your score is even (0,2,4, etc). If you started on the left side of the court when the game first began, you would be on the left side of the court when your score is (1,3,5, etc). For your positioning only consider your score, not your opponent. I hope this helps!
William, TP
I want to just play for the fun of the game.
As well you should!
Consider adding the "Reset" at the no volley line as the sixth shot
A critical skill, for sure. Thanks for the feedback.
How do you switch grip so fast for forehand roll?
Lots of practice and hours on the court!
In the quick hands drill section you note at the beginning the 10:37am position, which you show is "up" yet as you demonstrate during this drill it appears that you drop your hands down to waist high almost every time. That is confusing. Compare the position at the 4:31 mark with the position at 5:42 for example.
Hi David, thanks for your comment. My point is that whenever possible, try to keep the paddle head above your wrist from the proper angle to the ball. Coming from above the ball to the point of contact helps you avoid popping your volleys up. The 10:37 ready position (for the right-hander) refers to being slightly bias towards the backhand side. I hope this helps!
How do you manage to keep you feet at hip height? A bar stool? @3:50
It's a special gift that can't be taught ;-)
What is a semi forehand grip?
Good question. And if I am reading in to it accurately, perhaps you are wondering about a semi-western, versus a western forehand grip positioning, or style? Beginning with a continental grip for a point of reference, this is the way you would hold an axe handle (or a pickleball paddle for that matter) to chop wood. The split between the thumb and index finger is close to being directly over the #1 (or 12 o'clock) bevel for this grip. Slightly moving your hand to the forehand side of the grip, so that the palm is closely aligned with the angle of the paddle face is considered to be in the eastern position. Rotating your hand a little further so that the palm is closer to being under the paddle, facing more up instead of being matched with the angle of the paddle face, is referred to as a semi-western. And if your palm is at bevel #5 (or six o'clock), literally facing up, it is called a western, or sometimes a full-western grip. You can do an internet search for tennis grip diagrams, and come up with a multitude of good options.
Cheers,
Mark/TP
Of course, I can dink in tennis.
What about the backhand flick?
I'm assuming you mean hitting the roll from the opposite wing. That's also a great shot to have in your toolbox, although very difficult to hit for most players. Thanks for watching.
@@timbuwick Easier for us ping pong players. JW Johnson has a great one.
What up Webb Bridge.
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Rotate from the shoulder? It's swing from the shoulder Tim!!
Got alot of esoteric paddles on the court.
Contact out in front of the body not in front of the ball. Confusing. Lol. But swing in front from the shoulder good.
Hi Bart, I misspoke if I said that, which is entirely possible as we were recording on the fly. I meant contact out in front of the body, of course. I hope you found the video helpful!
Nice video, just a little hyper 😅
Thanks. I'll try to be less enthusiastic next time! ;-)
What do you do if who you’re playing slams the entire game? They never dink.
Very good question! I will begin with this: Not all, but most players who hit the ball hard every time are actually using power to disguise their lack of consistency (control), and want to end the point before you figure this out! Anyone playing pickleball, even for a short time, has encountered players and/or teams who slap shots from every part of the court. I will chime in, but I am curious as to what Mr. Buwick might have to say on this subject. That said, the good news is they are one trick, or one gear playing styles. I suppose it is worth asking or wondering what level of play we are talking about. Or I could ask if the players are able to keep the ball low over the net, or are they throwing you bait shots that would otherwise fly long if you did not take the bait. This is where I can compare pickleball to baseball, in terms of playing the outfield. If the person up to bat is known to blast shots long, you adjust back. And if the player is more of a strategic base hitter, the outfield crew adjusts closer. The same goes for pickleball. If the team you are playing is crushing shots, and you are pinched for time to generate a good reply at the kitchen, take a 1/2 step, or full step back to give yourself more time to react/ respond. If they also hit their serves, and returns at full speed, then you need to learn how to get comfortable with the pace. We advocate getting together with a partner and practice drilling the same kind of shots at each other that are posing you the most difficulty. And in a short time you will go from awkward, to being familiar and confident dealing with hard hitters. I hope the details help put those bangers where they belong, which is back to the class room of pickleball fundamentals to learn how important the soft game is.
Mark/TP
Your grip is at the end of the handle……interesting.
Yes, I hold the paddle exceptionally low, as it gives me the greatest flexibility. Use what works best for you!
I’d rather play platform tennis!
Oh, how I love me some paddle! The colder the weather gets, the more I want to get in the cage. Both sports provide me joy. I hope they do for you, as well.
I’m so impressed. I can’t talk, let alone coach, and play. 😂
Right?! Talent!
When Coach Tim speaks about pickleball, we listen! :)
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Hi Lesa, thanks for your kind words! I hope this video helps you get to the next level.
Lol. It's swing from the shoulder not rotate from the shoulder.
Hi Bart, I'm talking about the dink specifically. You are inviting control problems if you are taking a swing on a dink. Remember...always dink responsibly!
@@timbuwick It's a small out in front abbreviated swing Tim! Rotate is a dumb word to use. I am a Men's Pro 50 player with an incredible kitchen game.
You confuse these 3.5-4.0 players with this dumb rotate word. Abbreviated small out in front swing swing in the kitchen
I mean the resets wouldn't be with such easy shots. Make it realistic with the opponent hitting a harder shot near his feet and have him reset the ball.
Noted on that. Thanks for the feedback. Some resets are easier than others, for sure.
@@timbuwick4153 I just wanted to say this is exactly how people should handle comments like that- exactly perfect. Thank you for your channel. I just found you and subscribed.
On the forehand roll, your execution is the OPPOSITE of what you claim to do:
1. You say to drop your racket head but then don't drop it at all -- it's on an even plan with your wrist each time you demonstrate it.
2. You say to hit low to high to create top spin, but when you demonstrate you begin your swing every time with the racket on the same plane as where you strike the ball, and while you flip your wrist, it's after you've made contact and has no effect on the spin.
3. You speak of the importance of the transition zone but fail to mention at all the jump step you should take so you are balanced and in position to strike the ball properly.
I suggest you watch your video again; there's a stark difference between what you say you do and what you actually do.
No dink in tennis? huh?
Hi Justin, there is no dink in tennis the way that it should be hit in pickleball. In tennis, it's the drop shot. In pickleball it is hit the way I describe in the video, something we would almost never do in tennis.
The reason we don’t play dinks in tennis is because there isn’t a non volley zone. You try dinking and I’m gonna be right on top of the net to put it away.
Drop shot is a high risk/reward shot in tennis. It’s not a consistent winning strategy.
you’re wrong on the back hand dink. You absolutely can and should step over.
The problem with crossing over is it limits the angles that you can effectively hit the ball because your stance is so closed. When I see my opponent cross over I know they are going up the line or middle. It's a great change for an ernie when the person in front of you crosses over and hits a dink up the line high.
@@btreese7 Well said, Bryce. Sometimes you have no choice but to cross over but it severely limits your options and effectiveness.
So everybody pushing that higher paddle hold. Then when I watch the pros literally no males doing this. Girls a little higher probably because they're short but sill no one anywhere near that. Then when you demonstrate the forehand role for the 5th suggestion and are dinking not once did you come to this position. lol
If I am reading in to this accurately, in terms of you mentioning a higher paddle hold, or choking up on the paddle, so to speak, then I would say that is a good observation. As far as why and when players decide to hang off the end, or choke up the handle, I can offer up a few details: First off, I feel that paddle shape has an effect on how a player holds a paddle. If the paddle features a compact length and handle, it feels more natural/ comfortable to ride my index finger on to the backhand side of the paddle face, which means I am holding the paddle further up. I never hit my finger on backhands, and is precisely the way I hold a ping paddle. Playing with elongated paddles that feature longer handle lengths, it just feels more natural for me to not choke up, and I often find myself hanging a pinky off the end of the butt cap. The Engage Pursuit EX versus MX is a good example of the longer/ shorter handle effect. In fact, in our Total Pickleball review of those paddles, I mention this very thing, and the first image on the video shows an EX Pursuit in my hand, with my index finger on the paddle, as I am about to serve. Physically, choking up the handle affords more control, and hanging at, or off the end grants more power. Sort of like a baseball bat: Choking up complements base hits, and not home runs. Grasping the bat at the end does the opposite. From the baseline, I am hanging off the end of my paddle for easy power, unless it is a soft 3rd shot drop, but once I close the net, I want precision, so I (ever-so-slightly) move up the handle.
Cheers,
Mark/TP
@@TotalPickleball This was not about choking up but holding the paddle up higher relative to height from ground.
Ahh, thank you for the clarification! As far as the ready position, with the paddle in your hand(s), most shots hit on the pickleball court begin with the paddle in high position prior to the back swing. Not in terms of height from the ground, but rather keeping the paddle up high, just below my chin. Ideally, you do not just get the paddle beneath the contact point of the ball, but your body as well. If the shot is low, you sink to its level with a bend of the knees, and a wider stance, with the paddle in the same place; high up near your chin. A lot of players start the paddle in the correct position, but drop the paddle to the ball, instead of lowering themselves closer to the ball's contact height. I see a lot of videos for both pickleball and tennis, where they assert low-to-high, as being THE swing path schematic. Accurately, it is a high-to-low-to-high swing path. Starting the paddle up high, then drawing it back to the back-swing position, allows you to use gravity, and drop the paddle down (like the downhill of a rollercoaster) to the height suitable to get underneath the ball before contact. To me, the shape of the swing path I am referring to looks like a modified Nike swoosh. Starting the back swing on a higher track, and then dropping the paddle to the proper height, mimics the sharply curved end of the swoosh. Hitting the bottom of your swing path and then finishing out through the ball, is then like the heel end of the swoosh. Starting the paddle low, far below the chin, and then preparing for a shot by raising the paddle on the back swing tends to (literally) reverse the swing path direction, which does not work. If you are a right handed player, the forehand swing path rotation is in a clock-wise direction, reverse clock-wise for a righties' backhand. The only time I am not beginning shots with the paddle up pretty high, is when I am in the middle of quick volley exchanges, and am trying to roll, or use topspin; that tricky shot is actually low-to-high.
Mark/TP
@@TotalPickleball yeah but if you watch men;s doubles the paddles is not at the chin but closer to the belly button for like 90% of the play. Maybe due to the anticipated fast volleys you mentioned.
Why aren't you just smashing the ball at the net? What's with the dinks? This game looks too easy, and stupid
You'll have to try it, Maxx. Odds are you'll get hooked. It is easy to play...but hard to master!