1973 Giants: The Most DYSFUNCTIONAL Team in NFL HISTORY

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  • @82dorrin
    @82dorrin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    This is how life went for Johnson after football, according to Wikipedia.
    "Johnson spent the later years of his life in seclusion. Living in North Carolina, estranged from his family, destitute and reeling from injuries, he rented a small shed in the backyard of a couple's home. Haunted by failures he hid out only speaking to family on occasion, like holidays. He then eventually cut connection with family and most of the outside world. It was here in Brevard, North Carolina, he died at 65."
    Sad.

    • @RJC96cj
      @RJC96cj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Very sad.

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sometimes I think that's how my life's going to wind up, especially since all of society's now gone insane. Except that I can't see myself living to 50 let alone 65.

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Funky Tunk I agree. Problem is, modern society most emphatically does not.

    • @gluserty
      @gluserty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DolFan316 Yeah, society has definitely gone and gotten itself confused and off-center.

    • @robertallen8542
      @robertallen8542 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He actually taught Elementary PE in Cartersville Ga for a number of years after retiring from football.

  • @Andrew.J.Markle
    @Andrew.J.Markle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    New drinking game, watch 10 of this channels videos. Take a shot every time he says "worse than spiking the ball every single down"

    • @shipwrecksmith6305
      @shipwrecksmith6305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You better include “put into context”, too.

    • @d0nKsTaH
      @d0nKsTaH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      damn right. here's to Gator! *opens a can

  • @SPTO
    @SPTO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Man, if the '73 Giants were playing in the social media world of 2020/1 they'd be one of the biggest soap opera stories of our times. This is just some insanity right there.

    • @andrewpadaetz5549
      @andrewpadaetz5549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Luckily there were other sports teams in NY doing well. The Knicks were defending NBA champs, the Rangers were one of the better teams in the NHL and the Mets were in the WS that year so a lot of the Giants problems got buried deep in the sports sections of the Times, News, Post et al..

    • @frdjr2527
      @frdjr2527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@andrewpadaetz5549 The 1970s were a terrible time for football in NY. The Jets weren't doing well either. In fact, they never had a winning record in the entire decade of the 70s. The Giants had two winning seasons, 1970 and '72. It's no wonder so many NY area NFL fans went to the Dolphins, Steelers and Cowboys even if they never lived in Miami, Pittsburgh or Dallas. To this day, the Giants and Jets are still paying for their 1970s foibles. When the Steelers or the Dolphins visit the Jets, fans of those teams outnumber the home team. Worse still, when the Cowboys visit the Giants, the Cowboy fans often outnumber Giants fans. As a Giants fans since 1958, this is disgraceful!

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And the media today would be completely on Johnson's side and calling the team evil for hurting his feelings.

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@frdjr2527 NYC was an absolute cesspool at that time as well which didn't help any.

    • @theecharmingbilly
      @theecharmingbilly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Got to be honest, I don't know how the city folks do it in a massive place like NYC. I know there's a ton to do, and alot of people too see but the place just seems so busy, everyone on top of everyone. The asphalt/cement jungle is just so bleak. 🤷‍♂️
      Give me my two acres in the mountains of Northern Arizona any day!!

  • @kpk33x
    @kpk33x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    18 years of wandering in the wilderness between losing the 1963 title game and drafting Lawrence Taylor

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Meh. My team's gone 21 seasons without a playoff win. Even the freaking BROWNS finally won a playoff game but not my team, nope.

    • @dallasbrubaker6054
      @dallasbrubaker6054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DolFan316 Sounds like the Lions.....no wait, they haven 't won a playoff game in 29 years.

    • @dallasbrubaker6054
      @dallasbrubaker6054 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Becks Bolero Well January 5, 1992 is 29+ years.
      Once the Lions go 4-12-1 in 2021 the playoff wins drought will reach 30 years.

  • @alanbaum6690
    @alanbaum6690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Lifelong giant fan who was away at college during this time frame thankfully and due to inhaling a lot of marijuana my memory of this horrible time is very hazy. I remember the horrid years before that with the goodbye Allie chants though.

  • @CTubeMan
    @CTubeMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I’m surprised Randy Johnson did so poorly with the Falcons. After all, his job there was throwing the ball to birds.

    • @gluserty
      @gluserty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those birds though, I've noticed they don't always use both flaps when catching the ball. They try to be fancy, so the ball ends up flying away.

  • @toddbiesel4288
    @toddbiesel4288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I guess the 1973 QB position was not a very Big Unit. I'll go now.

    • @christianorr1059
      @christianorr1059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bah-Dum-Tss... 🥁

    • @michaelkoszowski3716
      @michaelkoszowski3716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😂😂😂...good one !! ..hope he didn't killi a bird with a 20 yard out route .

    • @teen_laqueefa
      @teen_laqueefa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I get the joke but fail to see the actual humor, I will go now

    • @bronxsportsfan
      @bronxsportsfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@teen_laqueefa Randy Johnson happened to be a QB on the team who would become the starting quarterback. Ironically, I get the references.

  • @0Yemiserly1
    @0Yemiserly1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Randy Johnson was in one of the first packs of football cards I bought, which were from this season, so he has a place in my nostalgia zone as do all the players from that handful of cards. Sorry to hear about his sad later years. RIP

  • @rockylum6947
    @rockylum6947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I remember seeing Randy in 1975,coming in for a 4th quarter mop up role for the Redskins during a late season Saturday afternoon game in Dallas. He would have his chinstrap un buckled until he walked under center and then strapped it on. He would immediately unbuckle his chinstrap when the play ended and he walked to the huddle.

    • @edpinkerton7947
      @edpinkerton7947 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly the same thing Brett Farve did

    • @mrmoose6619
      @mrmoose6619 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn't Jeff George do that too?

  • @WaltGekko
    @WaltGekko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Intereatingly, the Offensive Coordinator on the '73 Giants was Joe Walton, who a decade later would become the Jets head coach.

    • @jeffsmith2022
      @jeffsmith2022 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jason Garrett's father was the Giants D.C. at that time...

    • @tomb4575
      @tomb4575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Like many of The Giants coaching, scouting and front office staff Walton played for The Giants. They were known as Mara U. The "beloved" owner Wellington Mara was loyal to his former players. He helped them get jobs on Wall Street or in other business ventures. The growing TV sports industry was littered with ex-Giants. Gifford, Sumerall, Rote and Derogatis. Others were on the football staff, unfortunately the two from that tree that got away where named Lombardi and Landry. The revitalization of The Giants and the restoration of Wellington Mara's legacy began with Pete Rozell's intervention and Rozell naming George Young as Giants GM.

    • @orbyfan
      @orbyfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Howard Cosell, in his book "I Never Played the Game," commented that Walton had taken the best group of athletes in the NFL "and turned them into nothing. Another brilliant coaching mind."

  • @markko17
    @markko17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I remember an interview Craig Morton gave where after he had been traded to the Giants (this was the next year, 1974) almost as soon as he got to the Giants and saw how things were going said to himself, "What the hell was I thinking??!!"

    • @r.g.o3879
      @r.g.o3879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Morton was still in his prime but he just had no one around him, no offensive line, no running game and no receivers. He had taken the cowboys to a Superbowl and had outplayed Staubach to be the starter in Dallas. Three terrible seasons later he is taking the Broncos to the Superbowl, he just had been beat up so much his old team put a hurt on him, still he managed a couple more good seasons in Denver. If the Giants had given him something to play with they could have been a good team

    • @82dorrin
      @82dorrin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Morton was an underrated QB. Got my Broncos to their first Super Bowl and had some good seasons in Denver after that.

    • @jonniez62
      @jonniez62 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ol' Potato Chip told Dallas, play me or trade me. That got you traded in Dallas.

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@r.g.o3879 I heard Morton literally threw that Super Bowl because he was in trouble with the IRS and needed money.

    • @nala3038
      @nala3038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DolFan316 it’s funny you say that because I thought I heard the same thing years ago

  • @rjsweda
    @rjsweda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    love nfl stories never heard of from 70s 80s. could you do more videos on 60s & 50s?

    • @OfficialJaguarGator9
      @OfficialJaguarGator9  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hoping to have another one out in the next few days. Finding the footage is the hard part with that

    • @rjsweda
      @rjsweda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OfficialJaguarGator9 i love the old footage too, when i was a kid i would watch hilite shows that showed old b&w afl games & even 50s hilites.
      you do great work.
      may i request you do video on patriot's mac herron, 5'4 lead league 1 year in total yards, including punt returns, i think it was a record.
      and could you do video why joe kapp released from vikings right after taking them to super bowl & the legal snafu that sent him to patriots before jim plunkett was drafted.
      (i liked the way kapp threw wobblers & kapp even knocked out a cleveland brown linebacker who tried to tackle him & vikings purple uniforms & cold weather like vikings.)

  • @marksieber4626
    @marksieber4626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great videos. Love to see you do one on the steagles

  • @jamesdamenti2092
    @jamesdamenti2092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i was 14 and was a giants fan...
    as bad as this was we still had not gotten to craig morten, jerry goldstein or joe pisarcik yet.
    i’m proud to be giants fan...but it certainly was tough in the late 60’s and the seventies...
    go giants...!!!

    • @dibslin985
      @dibslin985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Funny thing is, Morton was actually pretty good everywhere else he went 😂

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dibslin985 I wouldn't exactly say "pretty good". More like "not horrible".

    • @martinrain312
      @martinrain312 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Add Randy Dean to the list of failed QBs. He ran better than he threw. I was also 14 in 1973. After watching those guys that’s why I was so impressed when I saw Simms as a rookie, he could actually throw spirals with zip on them!

  • @johnphelan4215
    @johnphelan4215 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My dad was a lifelong Giants season ticket holder. I attended every home game of this season. Even as a 6 year old I could see how ridiculously bad things were with the Giants. Not just that the results on the field were bad, which every franchise goes through at times, but that the whole organization was in complete disarray. The Yale Bowl was not a professional-grade stadium. The front office was not modern in any sense (Andy Robustelli was sort of like the GM, and he did the job part-time while also running a travel agency.) Everyone involved was a hanger-on from the glory years. They may have been great players, but that didn't make them great coaches or executives or whatever. It was almost like for some reason they had let a semi-pro team into the NFL. Compared to an organization like the Cowboys, it wasn't even in the same universe. Even with the new stadium in 1976 nothing really changed until "the fumble" in 1978, when they cleaned house and brought in George Young as GM.

  • @tomschoenke5519
    @tomschoenke5519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    At 5:02 of this video, in the lower right corner is my uncle Ray Schoenke of the Redskins. Yes, I wrote Redskins. Those were good times following the Skins and living and dying with every game. "Everytime you lose, you die a little inside. Maybe not your whole inside, maybe just you liver". Thanks Coach Allen.

    • @jacksmith5692
      @jacksmith5692 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember he was a super liberal but loved Lombardi!

  • @normanpeters7544
    @normanpeters7544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    " He was a legend in his own mind ''.

  • @ryanmarshall4332
    @ryanmarshall4332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your vids. It the editing in this one is designed to cause insanity

    • @OfficialJaguarGator9
      @OfficialJaguarGator9  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately this one was out of my control. Explained it in the description. The upload when it first came out was fine. Then, the NFL manually copyright claimed the video, despite it falling under fair use (it was a shot of Yankee Stadium). Had to remove it so that it could be shown again

    • @ryanmarshall4332
      @ryanmarshall4332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@OfficialJaguarGator9 that’s so dumb. Don’t they realize this is free advertising for them and that you are almost certainly creating new fans? Oh well. You still do a great job and are an excellent story teller. See you in the next one.

  • @andrewpadaetz5549
    @andrewpadaetz5549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Only reason Morrall played for the '72 Fins was that Griese broke an ankle in week 5. Shula had picked up his old Colts QB just for insurance purposes but had to go to him with Griese hurt. Worked out pretty well but it was out of necessity.

    • @joeshmoe7789
      @joeshmoe7789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He also led the Colts to a 13-1 record in '68 as a back up. Both were after the Giants traded him and got nothing.

    • @frdjr2527
      @frdjr2527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Earl Morrall was the Giants QB from 1965-67. He was traded to the Giants in 1965 and was immediately the starter. In the middle of the 1966 season he broke his wrist and was out for the season. In 1967, the Giants traded for Fran Tarkenton and Morrall was benched. In '68, the Giants released him and the Colts picked him up for a mere $100.

    • @joeshmoe7789
      @joeshmoe7789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@frdjr2527 They traded Morrall for Butch Wilson, a TE that caught 14 passes in 2 seasons. Craig Morton trades to and from the Giants, about 10 years later, were just as bad.

    • @frdjr2527
      @frdjr2527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joeshmoe7789 That's probably why I don't remember Butch Wilson!

    • @andrewpadaetz5549
      @andrewpadaetz5549 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frdjr2527 Only Butch Wilson play I've even heard of was a play in Week 1 of 1969 when he caught a deflected pass to keep a final drive alive against the Vikings in a game the Giants would win 24-23 on a Tarkenton TD pass to Don Herrmann with 59 seconds left.

  • @1223jamez
    @1223jamez ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember the 1973 pre season where the Giants went 6-0 after they went 8-6 in the 1962 regular season . In their first regular season game in 1973 regular season against Houston the Giants won soundly and looked like a contender, but it was all downhill after that right into the 1980 season. The 1973 Giants are no longer the biggest mess! The 2021 Giants make the 1973 Giants look like a playoff team!

  • @domenicdurante966
    @domenicdurante966 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Gator. Have you ever done any videos of the 1956,1986, 1990, 2007, or 2011 Giants football team?

  • @shrapnel77
    @shrapnel77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Mr. Johnson. Passer rating. Zero. Point. Zero.
    Dean Wormer

  • @FerdinandCesarano
    @FerdinandCesarano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Johnson was correct when he said that he had nothing to apologise for. He forced the team to give him his shot.
    Of course, he wasn't talented enough to capitalise on the opportunity. But for making his move at the right time in light of the team's weakness at the position, and for causing the team to give in, he should be praised.

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's one way to look at it. Another way would be that he threw a hissyfit and the Giants were complete simps for giving in at a time when almost nobody actually caved to that kind of behavior. And Johnson wasn't even principled enough to stick by his "retirement" because he never actually meant it at all.

    • @FerdinandCesarano
      @FerdinandCesarano 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DolFan316 - Of course Johnson didn't stick to his retirement, because he got the offer that he had wanted all along.
      And, as you said, he achieved this in a period when teams typically did not do that - which is all the more reason to praise him for this successful tactic.
      It would have been a nice story if Johnson had gone on to a long and fruitful career. But he didn't have that kind of talent. Still, he got his chance, which what counts.

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FerdinandCesarano He threw a hissyfit just like Aaron Rodgers is doing now, only with one tenth the talent. And when the Giants caved, what did it get them? Pretty much the same outcome they'd have had by sticking with Snead or going with some random 3rd string guy. As I said, Johnson never was going to retire, it was all just a ploy to get his way. He was truly a man 45 years ahead of his time.

    • @control_the_pet_population
      @control_the_pet_population 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DolFan316 I suppose "hissyfit" is one way to put it... But if any one of us were unhappy in our mundane 9-5 jobs, we'd be allowed to quit if we wanted. Thats all Johnson did, quit a job that wasnt working for him. Wasn't necessarily his fault the Giants were deseperate enough to bring him back.
      Granted, I probably wouldn't have made a stink in press had I been him... But I have no problems with him daring ownership to call his bluff. It is not very often that you have leverage over your employers.

  • @30RonJon
    @30RonJon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    With Don Hermann, Bob Grim and Joe Morrison averaging 5.5 in the 40 on a fast day, I really don't understand how the receivers weren't getting open for snead and Johnson.

  • @JerichoMile4
    @JerichoMile4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    New York Giants 2-11-1 overall and Randy Johnson played college football at Texas A&I with Gene Upshaw who starred with Oakland Raiders !!

  • @AnthonyPastore6
    @AnthonyPastore6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can't fault him for confidence. His attitude is exactly what you want. Unfortunately the skills didn't match his confidence.

  • @slimeydon
    @slimeydon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am a lifetime Giants fan since the 60s, they were dysfunctional that year, but the entire decade of the 70s were horrible. Webster was replaced by Arnsbarger and then they had the fumble in 1977, which lead to fans renting a plane that pulled a sign that said “15 years of lousy football, we’ve had enough”. That got that regime sacked and they hired George Young/ Ray Perkins, which lead to Bill Parcels.

  • @jamesage24
    @jamesage24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's weird to see the Giants in old Yankee Stadium. I just missed that era.

  • @peterhook72
    @peterhook72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    For the longest time I wondered why the ‘73 Giants did so poorly, especially considering they came off a promising 8-6 season and 6-0 preseason. Looking back, they simply didn’t have enough quality players and drafted horribly (Rocky Thompson,, Larry Jacobson, Eldridge Small). Even their top pick in ‘70, Jim Files, was out of football in ‘74. Dolphins QB Ryan Fitzpatrick reminds me of Norm Snead, can be tantalizing good and then plain awful.

    • @gluserty
      @gluserty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ryan Fitzpatrick is a good comparison to Snead. I'd say Snead probably had more raw ability (while taking more punishment & having his confidence shaken early), while Fitzpatrick isn't as naturally gifted but overachieving (in reality, Fitzpatrick probably shouldn't have even had a career, but he's had a lot of desire and confidence). Their careers have a similar feel too (the "tantalizingly good and then plain awful" that you mentioned), although more was expected out of Snead (that's where I feel Snead and Vinny Testaverde intersect).

    • @joeshmoe7789
      @joeshmoe7789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ron Johnson was the main reason for the Giants success in '70 & '72. He was hurt in '71 and '73. The '71 team was more dysfunctional. Major trades were made and assistant coaches were fired after that season.

    • @peterhook72
      @peterhook72 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joeshmoe7789 , I agree that Ron Johnson was a big reason for their success in ‘70 and ‘72, but disagree that the ‘71 team was more dysfunctional, as that team featured many players who got starting roles that year due to injuries (Richmond Flowers, Pete Athas, to name a few) and these players were key to the winning record they had in ‘72. Trading Tarkenton for Snead, Bob Grim and Vin Clemens won’t go down as a great trade for the Giants. And while Ron Jonson missed a few games in ‘73, he still rushed for 900 yards that year.

    • @tractorfone5567
      @tractorfone5567 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jim Files post some nyg highlights on his yt channel.

    • @davemr6193
      @davemr6193 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, at least they made some good draft picks, in the mid 60's , like taking Tucker Frederickson out of Auburn, instead of Gale Sayers.

  • @bronxsportsfan
    @bronxsportsfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You mentioned at the start of this TH-cam story (0:31) about the odyssey of the New York football Giants having to abandon Yankee Stadium (my hometown stadium) and went to the Yale Bowl and eventually, went to Shea Stadium (home of the New York Jets [at the time] and Mets [and for 1974 and 1975, the New York Yankees]) before crossing the Hudson River to New Jersey and finding a new home in East Rutherford in 1976. Can you do a story about that disastrous journey? I war too young to remember this and don't know too much about the football angle.

  • @orbyfan
    @orbyfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If I'm not mistaken, the home games the Giants played at the beginning of the 1973 season were the last home games they actually played in New York.

    • @andrewpadaetz5549
      @andrewpadaetz5549 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct. After 2 games NYC evicted the Giants who played at the Yale Bowl for the rest of '73 and all of '74.

  • @jacksmith5692
    @jacksmith5692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They were 6-0 in the preseason and the media was talking SB and they won easily in 1973 opener 34-14 against the Oilers at Yankee Stadium. My late Dad and Brother went to the game.
    I went the next week with my Cousin as Dad was out of town in the last game at Yankee Stadium and Gogolak tied the game 23-23 at the end of the game.
    Game 3 Ron Johnson was injured and we lost 12-10 and game 4 the first in the Yale Bowl we lost on a last second field goal 16-14 to the Packers and the team fell apart.
    The 6-0 pre season became a 2-11-1 year and Coach Alex Webster resigned!

  • @jackmessick2869
    @jackmessick2869 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    By the mid-1970s, Giants season ticket holders were burning their tickets in front of Giants headquarters and paying for aircraft to tow banners that could be read during game time as the aircraft circled that read "'15 Years of Lousy Football. We've Had Enough.''

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gotta love how people actually think they're fighting for justice by burning/destroying stuff they already bought. The only statement they're making is, "I'm dumb enough to think this makes a difference after I've already given the people I'm protesting against my money."

  • @d.e.b.b5788
    @d.e.b.b5788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember that year well; I was high school senior. Watched the giants lose so much, I thought it was just a regular part of the game. The jets sucked, though, too. For years, zero decent football in NYC.

  • @markgraham2312
    @markgraham2312 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember that team. There were, as you mention, two Johnsons on the team. Randy Johnson and running back Ron Johnson.
    Now, since the merger each player in the NFL has his name on his back. So what did the Giants do?
    Johnson & Johnson? No, that could confuse the fans. They might not know which Johnson it was.
    So, when multiple players have the same last name, teams usually put the first initial before the last name.
    But with Ron Johnson and Randy Johnson, they would both have R. Johnson on their back and the confusion wouldn't be resolved.
    So, how about the first two letters? Ra. Johnson and Ro. Johnson. That works, but look at the clip at 8:22, Randy Johnson has R. Johnson on his back.
    I remember seeing box scores with Ra. Johnson and Ro. Johnson, but it appears the Giants left the ambiguity.
    Years later when the Los Angeles Rams had both Jack Youngblood and Jim Youngblood on their roster, they both wore their entire names on their back.
    If you can find footage with Ra. Johnson and Ro. Johnson on the back of their jerseys, I'd like to see it, but in the footage provided here, all I saw was R. Johnson.

  • @MrEriccloy
    @MrEriccloy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    To be fair, Johnson's 7-8 TD-int ratio was MUCH better than Snead's 7-22! How come no mention of Jim McCann, the punter who led the league in blocks with 3 while punting just 12 times!

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His passer rating was over 27 points higher too, and he averaged almost a yard more per attempt than Snead with less than half the INT percentage.

  • @Unknown-bq9id
    @Unknown-bq9id 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh, and it gets worse: realizing they DID need veteran leadership, in the 1974 season, the Giants traded their first-round draft pick in 1975 and second-round pick in 1976 to their rival, the Dallas Cowboys, to get QB Craig Morton (who had lost the starting job to Roger Staubach). Who did the Cowboys pick with the second pick in the 1975 draft? None other than DT and linebacker Randy White, who went on to play in three Super Bowls and numerous postseason games, only becoming one of the best players the Cowboys had up to that point.
    Oops, Giants...

    • @tractorfone5567
      @tractorfone5567 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a nyg fan I would never ever trade with dallas.

  • @JonPITBZN
    @JonPITBZN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I could have sworn I saw a guy wearing #70 catching the ball. I looked it up. Bob Hyland was an offensive guard. How do you throw the ball to an offensive guard?!

    • @drewnogy
      @drewnogy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hyland was lined up as a tight end on that play. As long as he reported into the refs that he was an eligible receiver, he was a legitimate target to pass to.

  • @Classicrocker6119
    @Classicrocker6119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was impressed with Johnson making the tackle on the Raiders player who picked him off. You just don’t see that very often. Can you imagine Cam Newton doing that especially after his refusal to recover a fumble in the Panthers Super Bowl loss a few seasons? Me neither!

  • @atlasking6110
    @atlasking6110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In 1963 Snead made the Pro Bowl after throwing a league-high 27 INT's, had a 48% completion percentage and a 3-11 record. Even when Snead didn't suck, he sucked.

  • @jacksmith5692
    @jacksmith5692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Using a ball control short passing offense in 1972, Norm Snead led the NFC in passing but in 1973 they got away from the short passing game and Snead had a weak arm and became a pick machine. We used to say get aload of Norm Snead's 20 yard bomb!
    It was ridiculous as he threw 22 picks and only 7 tds and totally sucked!
    That was Norm Snead, a fine year and then 3 crappy years.

  • @sportshistorybuff319
    @sportshistorybuff319 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So who was best among the Vikings, Cuozzo, Snead or Lee?

  • @andrewchiarelli2420
    @andrewchiarelli2420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    0.0 reminds me of blutarsky's GPA at Faber college.

  • @margaretjiantonio939
    @margaretjiantonio939 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The. Giants was my team until I got really disgusted with them & became am Steelers fan in the 70's. I got frustrated with the lousy draft picks. When they traded their #1 draft pick for Morton that was the last straw.

    • @tractorfone5567
      @tractorfone5567 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hung in there with the Gmen. But it was tough.

  • @carloscolon3331
    @carloscolon3331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man my team has a odd history

  • @76vike19
    @76vike19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do a story on Jim Marshall, did register a tackle is SB XI

  • @davemr6193
    @davemr6193 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Getting Arnsparger, for the next three years, from the Dolphins didn't improve the team; were just as awful, but he switched them to a 3-4, and the linebacker play improved

  • @NickCC23
    @NickCC23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sucking in the Seventies is a chapter of the NY football Giants story.

  • @jacksonthompson7222
    @jacksonthompson7222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Still not as bad as the Geno Smith game.

  • @JBBooks-qv2kp
    @JBBooks-qv2kp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Giants in 1974 would trade there number 1 Draft pick in 1975 to Dallas for QB Craig Morton. That number 1 Draft pick turned out to be future Hall of Famer Randy White! The Giants couldn't do anything right in 70's

    • @tractorfone5567
      @tractorfone5567 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm against any trade with dallas.

  • @HipsterShiningArmor
    @HipsterShiningArmor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    As a founding member of the "Norm Snead was legitimately a Good Quarterback" club, this video is not helping my cause lol

    • @gluserty
      @gluserty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I believe he really was (I see him as the Vinny Testaverde of his era), but 1973 wasn't good for him, and from what I've learned about Snead is that he had a habit of following an excellent season with a weak one. Also, I think Snead was about at the end of the line as a NFL starter in 1973. What didn't help Snead was the Giants of 1973 (what also never helped Snead was that he played for a succession of crummy teams, with the exceptions being the 1966 Eagles and 1972 Giants).

    • @joeshmoe7789
      @joeshmoe7789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gluserty His '72 season was aided by all the short, dump off passes. Those plays were called because of the Giants small and weak offensive line. Ron Johnson helped make it a somewhat successful season, but Snead couldn't throw the long ball without interceptions.

    • @gluserty
      @gluserty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joeshmoe7789 I think Snead could really sling it though, but it seemed his success varied from season to season; kind of an in-and-out kind of player, but that's one thing I find interesting about him.

    • @JonPITBZN
      @JonPITBZN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have no opinion on his abilities as a player, but I'm certain that a guy named "Norm Snead" would not be allowed to play in the NFL in 2021.

    • @Zoyx
      @Zoyx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He came into the league the same year as Tarkenton... and his career was almost as long. They both had mediocre careers in the 60s, but one QB had his glory years in the 70s... the other tanked.

  • @NickCC23
    @NickCC23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yale Bowl didn't (still doesn't) have lights.

  • @automatic_systematic
    @automatic_systematic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Although very informal these segments seem to concentrate solely on the worst of times in New York City NFL history. Please correct me if I'm wrong

    • @OfficialJaguarGator9
      @OfficialJaguarGator9  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Here’s one on the time Jeff Hostetler blocked a punt: th-cam.com/video/aBAkSbHPYL0/w-d-xo.html
      Here’s another one on the 1994 Giants and their incredible mid season turnaround: th-cam.com/video/K6DEp1WD3V8/w-d-xo.html

    • @d0nKsTaH
      @d0nKsTaH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Automatic Systematic: We pay JaguarGator big money to run these anti-NY videos.
      We fully expect another 17 videos to pour out in the coming months... :P

    • @automatic_systematic
      @automatic_systematic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@d0nKsTaH hey it's your platform, regardless if your sole mission is to promote anti NYC rhetoric through sports then you most likely inhale flatulence from rhinoceros rear ends, respectfully

    • @d0nKsTaH
      @d0nKsTaH 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@automatic_systematic I was kidding man

    • @automatic_systematic
      @automatic_systematic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@d0nKsTaH ohhh... Oops?!? 😳

  • @stephennixon9609
    @stephennixon9609 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem with the Giants after the '63 Championship Game loss to the Bears was Wellington trying to get another Y.A. Tittle instead of drafting a young QB out of college and developing him. Fran Tarkenton Norm Snead then Craig Morton. That was the Dysfunction of the Giants was Wellington Mara. Not until Pete Rozelle stepped in between Wellington and Tim Mara feuding and got them to hire George Young who then drafted the young QB in Phil Simms did things start going in the right direction.

    • @davemr6193
      @davemr6193 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Growing up as a Giants fan, my only memories, were that of Tarkenton throwing deep to Homer Jones; not much else

    • @stephennixon9609
      @stephennixon9609 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davemr6193 I was so upset when they traded Homer to Cleveland. Even though Ron Johnson was very good if the Giants had drafted a RB out of college they would not have had to trade my favorite Giant of all time to get one. That was part of the dysfunction poor drafting.

  • @anthony0358
    @anthony0358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow I remember this team, 6-0 in the pre-season, I think?

  • @johnmanier7968
    @johnmanier7968 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There’s a clip of Howard Cosell dramatically pronouncing, “The New York Giants are an ab-so-lute ca-tas-tro-phe!” It’s probably from 1973, or maybe 1974 (2-12).

  • @jbj7599
    @jbj7599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How do you not have a shirt that say 'worse than spiking the ball on every down'

    • @OfficialJaguarGator9
      @OfficialJaguarGator9  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      www.jg9shop.com/listing/39-6-spike?product=1303 We do. Going to add some more merch along those lines in the coming weeks, but we do have a 39.6 passer rating shirt

    • @jbj7599
      @jbj7599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OfficialJaguarGator9 nice just a 39.6 passer rating shirt id wear. Never bought any youtubers merch yet but yours could easily be the cirst

    • @OfficialJaguarGator9
      @OfficialJaguarGator9  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jbj7599 I'll have a 39.6 without the words on it launching tomorrow. I'll send you the link when it's up

  • @kenp7814
    @kenp7814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    QB's that posted a 0.00 rating, Not so hard after all
    Tommy Thompson[1] 12/19/1948
    Otto Graham[2] 12/27/1953
    King Hill[3] 10/2/1960
    John Brodie[4] 10/22/1961
    Al Dorow[5] 9/9/1962
    John Hadl[6] 10/13/1962
    Cotton Davidson[7] 10/14/1962
    Cotton Davidson[8] 11/18/1962
    Bill Munson[9] 10/11/1964
    Earl Morrall[10] 9/19/1965
    Dick Wood[11] 9/19/1965
    Jack Kemp[12] 12/5/1965
    Dick Wood[13] 9/9/1966
    Joe Kapp[14] 10/15/1967
    Don Trull[15] 12/9/1967
    Bob Griese[16] 9/28/1968
    Johnny Unitas[17] 10/20/1968
    Virgil Carter[18] 10/12/1969
    Billy Kilmer[19] 9/27/1970
    Don Gault[20] 10/3/1970
    Mike Taliaferro[21] 10/11/1970
    Rick Arrington[22] 10/25/1970
    Terry Hanratty[23] 11/15/1970
    Len Dawson[24] 11/22/1970
    Terry Bradshaw[25] 12/13/1970
    Kent Nix[26] 10/3/1971
    Bobby Douglass[27] 11/21/1971
    John Hadl[28] 11/28/1971
    Gary Cuozzo[29] 12/11/1971
    Greg Landry[30] 9/24/1972
    Dan Pastorini[31] 10/9/1972
    Bob Lee[32] 12/9/1973
    Gary Keithley 12/9/1973
    Gary Keithley[33] 12/16/1973
    Joe Namath[34] 9/29/1974
    Archie Manning[35] 11/25/1974
    James Harris[36] 9/21/1975
    Dan Fouts[37] 10/5/1975
    Terry Bradshaw[38] 12/20/1975
    Norm Snead[39] 11/14/1976
    Joe Namath[40] 12/12/1976
    Richard Todd[41] 12/12/1976
    Craig Morton[42] 1/15/1978
    Dan Pastorini[43] 9/9/1979
    Mike Livingston[44] 9/9/1979
    Terry Bradshaw[45] 12/12/1982
    Cliff Stoudt[46] 12/12/1982
    Warren Moon[47] 11/10/1985
    Warren Moon[48] 11/30/1986
    Dave Wilson[49] 1/3/1988
    Todd Marinovich[50] 11/8/1992
    Tommy Maddox[51] 10/15/1995
    Dave Brown[52] 12/1/1996
    Kent Graham[53] 10/12/1997
    Tony Graziani[54] 10/26/1997
    Trent Dilfer[55] 12/14/1997
    Ryan Leaf[56] 9/20/1998
    Scott Mitchell[57] 10/15/2000
    Anthony Wright[58] 12/25/2000
    Randy Fasani[59] 10/27/2002
    Tim Hasselbeck[60] 12/14/2003
    Jeff Garcia[61] 9/19/2004
    Eli Manning[62] 12/12/2004
    Joey Harrington[63] 12/17/2006
    Rex Grossman[64] 12/31/2006
    Chris Redman[65] 12/16/2007

    • @ronaldcammarata3422
      @ronaldcammarata3422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's fewer than 4/10 of 1% of all games played in that time period. Another way to say it is thay it is fewer than 4 times every 1,000 games played. So yeah, it's pretty rare.

    • @jamesage24
      @jamesage24 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow! There's some really good quarterbacks on that list (Moon, Fouts, Bradshaw, Manning x 2, etc)

  • @imilliemedina666
    @imilliemedina666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He had zero blockers. Give him a break

  • @SamnissArandeen
    @SamnissArandeen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This week, on Days of our Steelers...

  • @richardhommel867
    @richardhommel867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How the hell they win 2 games.

  • @ATCguy1973
    @ATCguy1973 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:45 for the trademark saying 😁👍

  • @martinmasten4107
    @martinmasten4107 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I was at last Giant game at Yankee Stadium. Joe Morrison caught a pass and ran 40 or so yards for a td. It was against the Eagles. I wonder if that was the play in this video

  • @82dorrin
    @82dorrin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Giants were 1-2-1 after four games, and their two losses were by a combined four points. Soooo... maybe they would've been 4-0 with Johnson?

  • @nasetvideos
    @nasetvideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    2 for 12, less than 17% of passes, threw for 15 yards and a passer rating of 0.0?! I don't think I've ever heard of that stat. That might be the worst game ever...yes, talk about a dysfunctional season, for sure

    • @Diljabar
      @Diljabar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      a worse passing rating than you'd have if you simply spiked the ball on every play

  • @Davepool-hs7vr
    @Davepool-hs7vr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do a video on the fight between OBJ vs. Josh Norman

  • @ericveneto1593
    @ericveneto1593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WRH is up with the editing?!

    • @OfficialJaguarGator9
      @OfficialJaguarGator9  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Explained it in the description. After I published this, the NFL claimed a large portion of this video and blocked it from being shown, so I had to take it out. Entirely out of my control

    • @ericveneto1593
      @ericveneto1593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks! Sorry if my post come off hostile. Too bad the NFL Iis a buzzkill.

    • @OfficialJaguarGator9
      @OfficialJaguarGator9  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You’re totally fine. Wish there was something I could do about it

    • @DolFan316
      @DolFan316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OfficialJaguarGator9 Thank God they haven't done this to your other videos. Yet.

  • @williamhild1793
    @williamhild1793 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For what it's worth, the 1973 Giants were a perfect 6-0 in the pre-season.

    • @bretthosmer6770
      @bretthosmer6770 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds a lot like the 2008 Lions, who famously became the first ever 0-16 team. Forgotten by many though, is the fact that Lions team went 4-0 in the preseason that same year.

  • @danm9460
    @danm9460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They were a mess but the most dysfunctional? The '76 bucs might have that title

    • @michaelschaefer1904
      @michaelschaefer1904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True dysfunction is like fine wine, it takes a while to develop.

    • @stevep8445
      @stevep8445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bucs were an expansion team and just plain bad... not dysfunctional..

  • @georgeorwell4534
    @georgeorwell4534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:34 Joe Morrison! Old Dependable!

  • @ganon2352
    @ganon2352 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think your 2021 jaguars can take this honor now.

  • @michaelgilbert3713
    @michaelgilbert3713 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Catcher in the Rye POO 💩 terminated wit James ➕ his half sister

  • @CIF-pm7tk
    @CIF-pm7tk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    why so many cuts n clips?

    • @OfficialJaguarGator9
      @OfficialJaguarGator9  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      NFL blocked the original edit of the video

    • @CIF-pm7tk
      @CIF-pm7tk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OfficialJaguarGator9 im thought my internet was skipping 😂! you do an amazing job either way! 1 week in and ive watched almost all of your work!

  • @troyingramtroy123
    @troyingramtroy123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    0.0 rating

  • @marcuslaker5876
    @marcuslaker5876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Randy was right...it was a time before the lil’ bitsch “baller” type. Should have given him the reigns with the “show me” attitude. Instead you kept the car in the garage and the driver said screw it. You reap what you sow.

  • @Boomhower89
    @Boomhower89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🇺🇸👍🏼

  • @jeffsmith2022
    @jeffsmith2022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really not right to be killing the poor guy all these years later, it serves no good purpose...Pete Athas had a real nice head of hair, never made a play though...

  • @tranurse
    @tranurse ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t know, the Jags under Meyer was pretty horrible….. I said from the get go that hiring him was a terrible idea. Trouble follows him, and I wondered would he take a heart attack, if he got caught cheating on his wife again……

    • @OfficialJaguarGator9
      @OfficialJaguarGator9  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This vid came out before Meyer coached a game

    • @tranurse
      @tranurse ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OfficialJaguarGator9 for the record, I’ve been a Jags fan since they announced we were getting them. I can’t stand the gators though. FSU grad

  • @kennetholiver9651
    @kennetholiver9651 ปีที่แล้ว

    THAT WAS A BAD GIANT FOOTBALL GARBAGE COMPLETELY GARGABE THAK GOD I WAS A COWBOY FAN LIVING IN NEW YORK KENNETH O

  • @morghenmurdochlundgren8640
    @morghenmurdochlundgren8640 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is it that about ever QB with the last name Johnson is either not good at all or mediocre at best & yes that includes TB Bucs Super Bowl winning QB.

  • @catherineturner3938
    @catherineturner3938 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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