Blame meitei to gain Political benefits,,this is not new,,,hills will not allow meitei to settle in hills, they want hills valley devision, and they want same funding from central,,,
Summary of the video if I am not good enough blame the meiteis, if im not in good mood blame the meiteis, if my community in not developed blame the meiteis, if I am greedy, hateful,envious, blame the meiteis, not feeling well blame the meiteis, coz meiteis are so developed like singapore, dubai, In psychology this term is called Projection, in order to protect ur own ego u accuse/blame/find fault in someone in this case the meitei. The title of the discussion should be Blame the meitei, coz I ve period swings
@@mangalmeetei9145 your kukis are brought by your kings and used them as your dog to bite the nagas. Now they have biten you. For your info, kuki MLAs were only 6 and nagas use to have 11 somewhere in 1980s. However meiteis wanted to balance the power of naga MLAs and henced increased kuki MLAs to 10. As per 2011 census report, kukis population is around 4.7 lakh and nagas population is around 6.5 lakh. Still you feel 10 MLAs each for kukis and nagas is justice. Meiteis have been harming the nagas economically for quite a long time. And now you reap what you show. If the tribal population of Manipur and meitei pangals are combined, you have been reduced to a minority. This is the actual reality on ground. Had the 2021 Censu been taken, Meitei population would shrink further. For God shake please stop bullying and fighting each other.
How is meitei developed at the cost of tribals? Starting from your title of discussion its very communal. Meitei pays tax and tribals pay nothing. Tribals gets several benefits from state and central government while meiteia gets nothing, except some section of population as OBC. I dont understand why are you guys blaming to a cummunity where all of your elites taken away your citizens development funds. Blame your piliticans, IAS officers who put your development funds to their pocket and spread the propaganda to accuse meitei. If tou think that if manipur tribals are under represented, what is the logic of blaming to Meiteis. Blame to Gov of India. Meiteis dont create the constitution. Its the same logic as Tamil Nadu has many MPs while Manipur as only three. Should you start blaming Tamil or rather ask for a constitutional reform. Will you say that Tamils got developed at the cost of Manipuris. I dont think so. This is a baseless, sensless propagabda to instigate hatred amongst communities to demand certain political milage. If you are a sensible normal Indian, stop such propagabda. Dont think that meiteis are living only in the Imphal city. More than half of the meiteis also live in the rural areas, whose living status are the same or wost than any tribal family. Additionally, they dont get any gov funds as you guys do. Imphal is a capital city, and all the communities live there irrespective of their ethnicity, so have to be more develop than other cities in the state. What is wrong with that. Your hatred and jealous of meites are the result of continues feeding wrong venomous rarrative from elite officers and politicians who live in Imphal but never thought of helping poor tribal at the villages over the last 60-70 years. Stop such propaganda. Because of people like you the entite NE is breaking down into ethnic states and increasing hatred among states and communities. We could have live peacefully in a multicultural society as before and peacefully.
HAC or the A- 371are the only tools which befools the so-called naga of Manipur by the Kukis which termed by Kachanaga by Nagaland. Through such mechanism 70℅ of the hill areas're occupied by... They're even chased out of the areas... Pathetic!!! They talk loud about rights but fails to execute their duties, thats why vast of ukhrul sites are decorated with poppy that affects environment and even demography
@@takhellambamtiken4990 Don't worry about that, don't be so serious regarding what other calls at us , everywhere we are still the head the rulers Ngarang ki ngakhas won't understand all these things
On the Contrarary Tribals are very greedy of meitei culture not hinduism but Meitei indigenous...They need to learn to develop those indigenous cutures of their own..How far can constitution protect them.!! One day they are going to realise How christianisation has devastated their ancestral values.
Do you know that out of over 200 plus or 300 plus faculty members in mu, we have too few STs. Why are so many STs qualified to be university teachers but not in Manipur?
Why tribal are selfish and cunning? Manipur Tribal need to answer this. Why blame Meiteis for no development in hills? How many times tribal become CM for Manipur? Is there no tribal representative in Manipur assembly or in Top bureaucrats in Manipur govt? The funds are in pocket of Tribal Militants and the MLAs. Remember SDO Kishan who was a Meitei who is against NSCN IM who try to misuse MGNREGA fund. We the Meiteis shout for Ching Tam but the other tribes in hills always have "whataboutery" for their political reason. Outsiders are taking major role in dividing Manipur. Nagaland, Mizoram always wanted to divide Manipur. If the tribe in hills want development why can't the tribal elites build their shoping complex, hotels, hospital, expensive resturant, showroom in Hills not in valley. Their building fool their fellow tribes from hills that valley is more developed. But if you see the reality. The road, drainage, health care facilities are still lagging behind. Worse compared to other state. Seeing those big buildings from Chingmeirong to Singjamei (North to South) Malom to KonungMamang (West to east) can't be taken as development of valley. If you go beyond the above mention places you'll see lack of development. The road to porompat DC, JNIMS, Mayailambi, governor road is worse than Imphal Ukhrul road. Tribal leaders can come forward and do the development work with government together. Don't let your militants group take contract in hills, take illegal tax, misuse govt funds, two government running in hills one govt. running entirely with the profit of the real govt will always be a joke in development. I never touch hills funds I belong to general category. I've to work hard even though my fellow ST friend study in the same university with iPhone in his hand and me with Mi note 10 phone. I'm tired of my fellow tribal accusing Meiteis for their lack of development.
@Zenin-q6k please blame your corrupted leaders and Hill base insurgent group. They're the one who put all the funds in their pocket. Remember those tribal leader who seek RTI for ADC funds? They were hiding in Imphal as militants threatened their life.
Sowing projecting jelousy hatred through manipulated words without clear understanding shall begate the same projection multifold, what you sow is what you reap, change your mind for the betterment else you are the cause for all of the misery.
Meeteis are tax payer when tribal are not. Its tribal in Manipur who are enjoying with per capita budget allocation more than US citizen at the cost meetei.
@@yeett173 yes We Should Unite as Tribals and take and secure the 90% land of Manipur for Tribals ourselves and devide land amount Kuki and Naga instead of Fighting! The real enemy is the Meiteis as they have right to claim their hill land.
@@Konkonponponsonson.... Kukis and Naga can never unite due to kuki expansionist movement... And kukis will say a leader is great to only those that kukis can manage to fool...
If its for development n government funds blame the government not the entire meitei..do u think those meiteis politicians thinks for the betterment of the meiteis people lol they r politicians which includes ur tribal Mla n Minister too…politicians think only for themselves ..so stop wit ur mindset dat u will blame the entire meitei community wakhn se khr2 chaonase mapan thoktaba wakhl do thadoko pumnamkki afaba oinaba keinom twbaga meitei da tainabei kok to toko
Who is this sword vashum? Don't open your mouth just like Pakistanis who when their terrorists attack india, would justify it by saying that Pakistan too is a victim of terrorism😂
So corruption is now a communal issue?! Only Meitei corruption is bad but Naga corruption is fine! Also corruption only effects the tribals and not innocent Meiteis??. How do these people come up with this kind of ideas?
Do you know who the cm? Did you see what ukhrul mla retd ias officer Ram muivah say in a podcast. He was told that the cm had told him not to ask questions in the assembly? Mr ibobi is known as Mr 10 percent, and that tag was given to him even by the BBC. Who controls everything in Manipur: the meities we all know right?
I don't know why the Nagas of Manipur are still neglected and continue to demand ADC and autonomy even when the Constitution of India (Art 371C) mandated the hills to have autonomous councils in the 1971. There is certainly a big conspiracy to withhold the rights of the tribals.
@@AshonshokKachuiP19HSS003 Are you insecure that you won't be able to dominate and take 90% of Manipur hill land as your own? Is that why you get so angry and insecure when "Reserve forests" are mentioned? Maybe you should change the mindset of "if it's a hill it's my land because I settle on hill so every inch of hill is my land" Maybe after that who knows the Other community will not feel so insecure about supporting your autonomy. To say that our lands are limited only to the valley is the biggest Insecurity of the Meiteis speaking frankly.. Many Meiteis in the past died in the hills protecting the hill lands from Burmese. You may think "But Meitei only settle in the valley" Yes you are correct, but we fought in the hills, we had Thana(Outpost) we had Pal(Fortress) we had Jangs(Army camps) Talking about sustainability our kingdom sustained for 2000 years until the Toungoo 7 years invasion and then British occupation... You should know the history, just because are weak now doesn't mean you take chance and lie to us
@@AshonshokKachuiP19HSS003how many meitei colony in nagas dominated areas BTW meitei wouldn't exist without tribals and vice versa. 80% of Maram population died in Burmese invasion. Most of the elites of Naga have Hugh properties in imphal if we talk about sustainability that's a tight slap back.
Blaming meitei has always been a tool of Naga and Kuki's vote bank and politics while Kuki and Naga both settle in Valley with large land holdings without any taxes saleh thuii
Why only rights rights rights, what about Meitei rights. No ST, No land protection, no settlement rights outside the valley while all the other tribes enjoy them in the valleys, why no reservation in jobs, why no scholarships despite staying in one of the most artificially landlocked region of the country, why no reservation in selection of MBBS seats and other high repute universities. Think over it Vashum ji and the types and you will definitely backtrack what you have so boldly told in some rugged English tone. If you can find an answer to my question, I will definitely respect you or else you are just another opportunist trying best to fish in troubled waters.
Metei enjoy everything. They have their language in Schedule list. Their dances as classical dances. They have SC, OBC and EWS reservation. They have all the infrastructure. School, hospital, airport etc.. Meitei people who talk about land protection on Hills, as if they can buy even land at the valley. BRahhhh. Start living in reality. too much dwelling in illusion is creating war
On what official basis do you say " the Meiteis have developed"? Very convenient tool to drive the wedge between the different sections of the public Imphal and Manipur as a whole.
The Manipur government, then headed by Chief Minister W. Napamacha Singh, had said that the Meitei community was the “dominant group in Manipur” and need not be included in the ST list. It noted that Meitei people were Hindus and “assumed the status of Kshatriya Caste in the ladder of Hindu Castes” copy and paste
@@valentinoss2611 so the red indians subscribed to christianity and became christians they automatically cease to be Tribes? is that what u are implying? if thats so the converted christians in northeast should cease to be tribals. Am I wrong?
@@valentinoss2611 your views clearly shows how immature and misled you are. I'm 100pc sure you believe that an ST should dress black n red, hold a spear and a bible in hand. Am i right?
@@basmatiChawal24-7 meiteis can become ST anytime they want... In fact they are the real tribe having their own unique customs and religion not found anywhere whereas these so called tribals are just for namesake they have already thrown away the identity and characters of a tribe and they became westernized following western cultures and religion... So who is the real tribe?? 😄
It's to ask and enquire of from the Govt. and it's institutions regarding any developmental aspect whether it may be hospital, schools, college or whatever it may be required, instead of blaming a particular community as a whole. Let's not blame and spread hatred between the communities as long as you believe yourself as a humanitarian. Right???
Valleydana lam leiraga leige hyba aduga leisu leihanba, aduga hills da valley people na business twge lam leige hairagana yadaba, equality leirakanda develop oini , nattrad hills and valley suk nung2si naroi ,eina hairi c da asoiba yaora d hyrk o,
Yes true but they work under the interest of Meitei and betrayed their own blood tribes to get support if not how they will get the support without majority Meitei so it's just namesake because at the end of the day the decision will be made with Meitei interest.
@@joylison93shimray42 U have just made a accusation without providing evidence. Don't forget of the 4 leaders who went to jail for fighting for statehood, the three Meities sacrificed and gave the CM post to the one Tankhul. He was later assassinated for refusing to play communal card.
@@joylison93shimray42 broo iur words it clearly shows that u really have never read the real history of manipur.Stop playing victim card all the time man all the development works taken up in the hill areas has been disrupted by ur community leaders as well,if u want development u need to be rational towards ur leaders as well,question ur leaders as well stop blaming only the meiteis.
concealed why Shri Th. Kishan, the then SDO was brutally killed along with his two staff. He was killed because he dedicated his life for the development and getting the benefits of various schemes directly by the innocent tribal villagers.
The tribal of Manipur should put up their grievance redressal to government of India and not to Meitei community. Abrogate MLR ACT 1960 to bring development in all parts of Manipur. By ristricting Meitei community in hills,tribals expect development in hills is impossible.
@@mmanichandra1263 they want to dominate and take 90% of Manipur land, they don't want to miss it.. Because 90% land = Hill And according to them hill = Only their land.
There are no true grievances. All are just made up. They have fair representation in the highest law making body of the state. Of the 4 leaders who went to jail fighting for statehood, all three Meitei sacrificed and gave the Chief minister to the Tangkhu Yangmaso. Shaiza. Shaiza was assassinated later for refusing to play the communal divisive politics. Another ~200 good naga leaders were also assassinated. Listen to the interview with SC Jamir, former CM of Nagaland. Another Tankgkhul Rishang was sworned in 4 times as CM. There have been many cabinet ministers, IAS, IPS etc. The only true discrimination is against us e.g land, job, income tax, no adult franchise in the hills etc. Their so called grievances are just pure propaganda. MLR is a state act that can be amended/abrogated easily. Our MLAs have caved time and again under threat of violence. Lack of good and intellegent Meitei minister is what led us here. But better late than never! Vote for change in #2027. It's our only way.
@@BeingHuman-b3b then why are u people complaining to Meitei community ❓. What ur MLAs, village chief are doing for development apart from buying land , flats outside Manipur ❓. Do u expect someone to come and develop the hills ❓ when tribals can settle in Imphal valley why not valley people can also settle in Hills ❓. Only then the pace of development will follow.
Mr channel n mr anchor n mr speaker...if we start discuss about your people blaming your people n community..u guys will not ve anything to give feedback..if u blame us..u better to know the real history of Manipur.... Meitei goes on by knowing the history otherwise the chapter of Manipur may be other..
St of manipur have been enjoying everything in all respects n you yourselves are stealing from yourselves in the expenses of tribal development. Again blaming others apart from adc elections is a stupid thought
Every community has the right to protect and work for the development of its community. I do not want to indulge in any blame game. But can anybody deny the fact that Manipur is the only place in India where tribals have a say in anything which any ST community can not even think of in any part of India. Before blaming other retrospect what your leaders have done for you in the last few decades other than enriching themselves.
Some Englishmen here talking only in English were consuming very toxic substances which passes through their dependence the toxicity of hatred. They have got whatever they want but still looking the others plate. Never and ever they will come up with an inclusive identity where their ideal community which they call themselves as, had not accepted. The blame game kick off to the Meiteis which was deprived, distorted by the conduct of the inhuman National Highway extortion, blockade. But still remain silence that their greedy brothers will realize one day how much pain they have bear in this juncture of war and hatred. Some joined hand in hand to stay together some selfish poke and make them popularity of spreading hatred.
Per truck tax is 80000 which result to increase prices of every good Imagine 10 truck passes everyday Price of 1 bag of cement is 200 rupees costly than that in assam
Valley (so called )is also place where different communities resides besides Meiteis. The 10% that's been mentioned. There is inequality in policy even for the Meiteis. And hill communities lacks development. There must be some Reason..but don't Communalise! But don't generalise and categorize the valley people and blame them. There are vast Meitei population which are underdeveloped in the society called "valley is a developed area'.
NRC is the only solution.....we are not insecure of indigenous tribals of manipur ...we are insecure of infiltrators of mayanmar taking lands in Manipur
Tribal Christians of Manipur are sufferings alot, but the central did not pay any attention.When Hindus in Bangladesh suffers every main land Indians are shouting, the Tribals of Manipur are treated like a stray dogs.
It was your ancestors who made many mistakes cuz Meitei kings always had a supremacy thought that Meiteis were civilised from the beginning with prestigious history and kingdom and so should live in valley and the hills are for Haos, uncivilized people and your ancestors never ever thought of hills and also hill people were very aggressive and unwelcoming outsiders as they were headhunters and after the Indian Independence, tribal leaders requested some Meitei leaders to convert to ST and live as one but they refused saying that Meiteis can never ever be in Hao category some decades passed and even after Manipur statehood in 1972,again tribal leaders requested the Meiteis but Meiteis still had the same supremacy thought and were also furious cautioning the tribals and challenging them not to repeat as they were civilised high class community and could never be converted. Time has changed in this century now we will not allow such advanced community to convert to Hao❌
Imphal valley is meiteis and meeteis land. Do not look beyond imphal vally. Remember 7years of devastation, it affects only meiteis/meeteis people dwellers of valley who are under the rule of king. The independent hill people were not affected . Know the location of your land.
Tribal right was not suppressed by the meitei tribal are free in manipur they lived everywhere in the state of manipur where as meitei not nevertheless 31% reservation for ST... in any state of India manipur is the best state for tribal and minority look at the mizoram Chakma group and Nagaland Jharkhand etc
Chakmas have 6th schedule. Nagaland is now the most autonomous state as per Article 371A after the removal of Article 370. Jharkhand tribals are governing themselves. Venkatachaliah commission on NCRWC and other commissions all suggested 6th schedule to be given to tribals of Manipur. Why are tribals being denied?
@@Konkonponponsonson Manipur Valley's population density per capita is lesser than that of the entire Kerala's (Kerala is 29% forest cover btw). Meiteis are the ones who are crying for the protection of forests in Manipur (the state with the 4th highest forest cover), if Meiteis can clearly understand why forest protection is needed, they can also understand why the tribal lands are protected.
@@yeett173you get 6th schedule and we get stuck in the middle with limited resources dried up rivers congestion while you get to stuck two lollipops. After that ADC in next few years you will have monopoly in life lines of our society.
.. We will not be surprise if kukis claim Sword as a kuki in the next few coming days... This kukis claiming Rishang Keishing, Alfred as kukis is well know to us and it has lost its effect😊
@@Nam8796manny we never claimed them as ours. Its your very own who made silly propagandas about Alfred during election times to draw voters towards NPF.
What do called tribal in Manipur are occupying more than 90% of land at the cost of meiteis simply because meiteis are not included in tribal but everybody knows Meitei are fit to be tribal and these people are opposing and doing politics every time in the name of tribal to dominate over meiteis. Their greedy level is amazing.
Tribal don't pay tax. Tribal have quota. Tribal enjoy everything free. They are rich. Meitei pay tax. Meitei work hard. Meitei have no quota.In any sports or educaton Meitei represent Manipur though meitei are less than 50℅ in population. Now pick up any results of compitive exam of last 50 years Meitei have struggle and tops on compitition. Now ST says meitei should not be allowed in sports and competitive exam. Funny people
why not these nagas ask nagaland? Why ask the meiteis since they prohibit meiteis from entering their area ukhrul, go go, go with kuki, You guys talk like the times of monarchy, supressing the conquered community was a thing of past monarchy, why keep blaming meitei for past, do we do this now?
The history of Manipur, 7years of devastation clearly tells the location of kangleipak,the meiteis/meeteis land which is the valley. The hill people have no land in the valley but the valley people sell their land to the hill people. The hill people will never sell their land to the valley people.
Pls discuss about christians and tribes ..a huge differences. How come Manipur tribes possess such high powered sophisticated weapons made in China and USA ?
If I open shop it would be a highly populated area rather than remoteness and co-existent what may be, is right now the Imphal town is. Painted some way the Imphal today also included the outsider businessman non Manipuris. Let's progress together and fence our land
Article 371 applies to nagas of nagaland not applicable to manipur, where under it naga nation of nagaland came into existence, article 371c was given to you as a nagas not as a Manipur tribals, where 6th schedule of indian constitution gives access to only nagas, given a chance to merge with nagas but your manipur tribal said we are manipuris not nagas so how comes tribal of manipur want to enjoy under article 371, what was Reishang keishing doing, when he was the Chief minister of manipur, what a shame instead of taking blame you people are blaming governor same applying to Muivah asking forgiveness from nagas for hijacking naga issues, killing innocent nagas and manipur tribal not supporting naga issues and tangkhul dening themselves as nagas, the nagas of nagaland histories existed thousand years, only manipur tribals existed two hundreds years as you said,
If you don't know all the articles of India please don't talk related to the article. Manipur has clearly article 371C, which Nagaland has article 371A.
There are many 371 (A-J) A - Nagaland B- Assam C - Manipur D and E - Andra Pradesh now also telangana F- Sikkim G - Mizoram H- Arunachal Pradesh I- Goa J- Karnataka
Rightly said. Meitei intellectuals and leaders have not come to the real sense of coexistence exercising constitutional rights. Only sloganeering with action otherwise. In regard to the ADC election, CSOs of the tribal community too must put their foot down and say enough is enough and give ultimatum to conduct the ADC election immediately. Tribals body seems to be simply trusting and waiting for apple to fall into their mouth.
Autonomy should be at the village level only if at all and not at the district level. District is home to Meitei and others as well. Uneducated leaders created this mess and must be undone for the benefit of all.
The tragedy of tribal in Manipur is that they welcome other non Indian citizens tribals from Myanmar, Bangladesh following christianity to settle in Hills by making false documents and restrict valley people who are indigenous,to settle in Hills under the banner of MLR Act 1960, Article 371C . Tribals leaders and chieftain are playing exclusive politics at the same time accumulate their personal property and blame Meitei community for their inefficiency and underdeveloped condition. Lastly Naga of Manipur have aspirations of great Nagaland to club with nagaland state however Manipur naga are considered as kacha Naga by nagaland naga. Kuki have aspirations of Zalengam. Outside Manipur people are watching the fighting between manipuri people manily between Meitei -kuki- Naga. Other small 34 tribes etc are in collectral damagae. Meanwhile Meitei Pangal ( muslim) are busy doing business. Everyone will not survive in such environment but who cares.
This shows that Meities maintains equality regardless of religion and tribes.Not like ur tribal matha where u peoples talk only about me,you,them,they there is no inclusive policy.
Tribal people only want to get proper facilities from center in the name of cast ,, haaaa it's very funny 🤣🤣🤣 vedio you are making bro ,, they very jelouse to meitei becouse if we have same stutus with them they will not get anything from center ,, my mother also tangkhul i respect every community of manipur but sometimes tribal people making some against meitei ,but meitei never
Yes! this is the savage truth! about Article 371 (c)! There has been numerous discussions and workshops regarding Article 371 (c) however it was never ever materialised! and sadly those who are suppose to protect our rights knowingly ignored our right! (Reason best known to them). Thank you brother Sorinthan. And a big salute to our fearless respectable TNL President Sir Sword Vashum. Hope and pray that peace prevail in Manipur again. 🙏🙏🙏
It's a power for the President; not the tribe. Since there is a state assembly it serves no purpose. Buy the book and read the article yourself. Don't let anyone gaslight you.
@@rajeshkhumatnthem9179 You better go through the article yourself below and lets discus. Your half-backed knowledge is not helping anyone. Article 371 C.... says that: i) Committee The President can order the formation of a committee in the Legislative Assembly of Manipur. The committee will be made up of members elected from the state's Hill Areas. ii) Governor's report The Governor must make an annual report to the President on the administration of the Hill Areas. The President can also direct the state on how to administer the Hill Areas. iii) Tribal land The article states that tribal peoples in Manipur have maintained their commons under customary law. It also states that tribal societies continue to administer their villages under customary law. iv) Customary law The article states that tribal peoples' customs, traditions, and beliefs have been contested due to interactions with outsiders.
When we Kuki-Zo demand total separation from manipur. Here, manipur nagas are crazy about HAC and ADC. CRAZY.. Where is their demand of Greater Nagaland Stand here? Wait and dream for another 50 years? If manipur nagas led by Tangkhul really want their dream to come true, they should support and work together with Kuki-Zo and get some sort of autonomous during this crises. So that, it will be half job done after naga solution is finalize. Otherwise, ZUF fight for their own administration will become more and more legit.
This is an idiotic discussion of so-called intellectual people. Give away your reservation to your backward & own community. Your son & daughter will absorb the reservation and blame other communities.
One question for our brothers Nagas that if the kukis don't apposed the ST Demand of the meities but if they support the meities in their demand for ST,Then will our brothers Nagas also agreed with the kukis to allow the meities settlement in hill tribals areas,if agree the the war is over,
ST for meities. It will be big problems for tribals in Manipur. Although we dnt like the way they treat us, but cnt deny the fact that they are intellectual and outsmarts us in many fields like medical, engineering, sports, education. Like in UPSC meities are in top 50 position that mean they have a great capabilities. You know really well that once they get ST we will be nowhere. still now they are in many positions in government job like 70% are meities. It's like giving all the plate of rice to them. It's depend on kukis whether you support or opposed them coz you peoples are independent in your own way of taking decision for your own peoples. Everyone has their own opinions whether it's nagas ,kukis or meities. Wise decision is a must for every communities so that we dnt regrets later on.
Nagas and Kukis should work harder and compete with others on a level playing field. I haven't seen any Nagas or Kukis in the private sector or fields where there are no reservations. And they complain they are not developed. You are not developed because you don't work hard. And, both kukis and nagas should keep in their mind that forests/hills are not your father's property. your property ends in the registered/recognised villages. Don't force all Meties to take the path of violence like you people have. Check your own history and you will find Meities can also become very very violent.
Manipur naga leaders are still sleeping or pretending ,wonder why they dont understand tribals Christian neighbor are suffering but still watching cm biren face n power
Best is not to use religion card here tribal is tribals whether is non Christian or Christian. You are tribals first before you converted into Christianity. Playing religion is tricky thing to communal riot that mean division among the tribals. Always support for humanity and innocent peoples which domination it's belongs ,should not discriminate on the basis of their communities or religion.
This topic should had been in The Lungleng Show which is more popular and independent. When people know that the channel is pro to any political party, we don't value the content anymore
Hahaha. We all know you're a huge fan of Sorinthan Haorei. Don't be shy! We see that you don't miss any of his episode. Your negative comments are his strength. Keep it up!
Both of you should not be concealed why Shri Th. Kishan, the then SDO was brutally killed along with his two staff. He was killed because he dedicated his life for the development and getting the benefits of various schemes directly by the innocent tribal villagers.
We almost got Sixth schedule back then during LK advani time, when Hill Tribal Union was going for it in full swing.. It was NSCN IM utopian dream of sovereignty that clampdown the movement. Now its almost too late, meitei masses are politically awaken and will opposed it tooth and nail to maintain their privileged status quo. Remember a bird in hand is better than two in the bush.
@@Eon2348 if they IM/Nagas leadership were more selfless & visionary back then, as they always claim to be even now, the conditions of manipur tribals might be very different as of now. The centre/parliament back then were ready to bulldozed the state government, if needed. Meitei Legislators were begging at the feet of our tribal MLAs, crying their people will burnt them alive and offering individuals hugh amount of money to trace back their demand. Some of ours even think about it. Then, IMs step in the scene and arrest all leaders in their region claiming you guys are just hampering with our ceasefire talks which is finally bearing fruit & 90% already concluded. They thought center might settle their long endured years of struggle and sacrifice for a sixth schedule which is too little to less according to them. But we should be more rational & realistic sometimes according to ground reality. This is like the scenario of Armenia and Azerbaijan conflict. Armenian should have settled for an autonomous enclaves for Nagorno karabak region while they held the upper hand. Now Azerbaijan has risen from the ash stronger then ever and the former loss everything, forever. Due to their over greed & visionless leadership.
@@suanneihsial3356 isn't the whole conflict about land.. Like since 90% of Manipur = Hills So that tribals will get big land they want to get autonomy to secure their dominance over 90% of Manipur land. Maybe because of that.
The tribals of Manipur are not under 5th schedule. I think the President has made a slip of tongue. Refer Article 244(1) of the Constitution of India which is meant only for administration of Scheduled Areas.
😂😂😂 the whole videos summary is we tribals r less developed underdeveloped, suprressed n harrassed by meiteis becoz meiteis r insecure n jealous our undeveloped status. Meiteis r scared that tribals will achieve better than them even when with st status n quotas whn we rnt even to achieve their status even after years of quota privilege. Wtf r u ppl thinking? 😂😂😂😂😂
please don't associate his statement against SC Jamir to that of the Facebook post by "Patriotic Naga". Although the incident came at the same time but they are totally different person. the person who commented is arrested and is awaiting trials while this person is the chief of the Tangkhul Hoho.
Ashon.... Tnl prez is very articulate and elite political leader..... I hope he is not the same person whose fb post is causing uproar...... Let mutual respect and peace prevail now and forever among nagas and other community 🙏
Blame meitei to gain Political benefits,,this is not new,,,hills will not allow meitei to settle in hills, they want hills valley devision, and they want same funding from central,,,
Summary of the video if I am not good enough blame the meiteis, if im not in good mood blame the meiteis, if my community in not developed blame the meiteis, if I am greedy, hateful,envious, blame the meiteis, not feeling well blame the meiteis, coz meiteis are so developed like singapore, dubai,
In psychology this term is called Projection, in order to protect ur own ego u accuse/blame/find fault in someone in this case the meitei.
The title of the discussion should be Blame the meitei, coz I ve period swings
Your population is only 45℅ as per 2011 census, however you enjoy 37 MLAs out 60. Wah what a justice...
@rongmeilive666 take everthing even Imphal hypocrites small brains
@@rongmeilive666if u want more mla in hillside why u shout kuki as foreigner...45 Percent is the percentage..still we are majority population..
The anchor himself shows the hatred towards us n his blame game through a channel to us..shame not logic
@@mangalmeetei9145 your kukis are brought by your kings and used them as your dog to bite the nagas. Now they have biten you. For your info, kuki MLAs were only 6 and nagas use to have 11 somewhere in 1980s. However meiteis wanted to balance the power of naga MLAs and henced increased kuki MLAs to 10. As per 2011 census report, kukis population is around 4.7 lakh and nagas population is around 6.5 lakh. Still you feel 10 MLAs each for kukis and nagas is justice. Meiteis have been harming the nagas economically for quite a long time. And now you reap what you show. If the tribal population of Manipur and meitei pangals are combined, you have been reduced to a minority. This is the actual reality on ground. Had the 2021 Censu been taken, Meitei population would shrink further. For God shake please stop bullying and fighting each other.
How is meitei developed at the cost of tribals? Starting from your title of discussion its very communal. Meitei pays tax and tribals pay nothing. Tribals gets several benefits from state and central government while meiteia gets nothing, except some section of population as OBC. I dont understand why are you guys blaming to a cummunity where all of your elites taken away your citizens development funds. Blame your piliticans, IAS officers who put your development funds to their pocket and spread the propaganda to accuse meitei. If tou think that if manipur tribals are under represented, what is the logic of blaming to Meiteis. Blame to Gov of India. Meiteis dont create the constitution. Its the same logic as Tamil Nadu has many MPs while Manipur as only three. Should you start blaming Tamil or rather ask for a constitutional reform. Will you say that Tamils got developed at the cost of Manipuris. I dont think so. This is a baseless, sensless propagabda to instigate hatred amongst communities to demand certain political milage. If you are a sensible normal Indian, stop such propagabda. Dont think that meiteis are living only in the Imphal city. More than half of the meiteis also live in the rural areas, whose living status are the same or wost than any tribal family. Additionally, they dont get any gov funds as you guys do. Imphal is a capital city, and all the communities live there irrespective of their ethnicity, so have to be more develop than other cities in the state. What is wrong with that. Your hatred and jealous of meites are the result of continues feeding wrong venomous rarrative from elite officers and politicians who live in Imphal but never thought of helping poor tribal at the villages over the last 60-70 years. Stop such propaganda. Because of people like you the entite NE is breaking down into ethnic states and increasing hatred among states and communities. We could have live peacefully in a multicultural society as before and peacefully.
HAC or the A- 371are the only tools which befools the so-called naga of Manipur by the Kukis which termed by Kachanaga by Nagaland. Through such mechanism 70℅ of the hill areas're occupied by... They're even chased out of the areas... Pathetic!!! They talk loud about rights but fails to execute their duties, thats why vast of ukhrul sites are decorated with poppy that affects environment and even demography
@@ummayens tell me who is or are those elites taking away our development funds.Don't write nonsense.
@@takhellambamtiken4990 Don't worry about that, don't be so serious regarding what other calls at us , everywhere we are still the head the rulers Ngarang ki ngakhas won't understand all these things
Exactly
@ummayens you nailed it brother 📌🙌
Keep raising your voice, this world is bad not because of bad people but because of the silence of good people
On the Contrarary Tribals are very greedy of meitei culture not hinduism but Meitei indigenous...They need to learn to develop those indigenous cutures of their own..How far can constitution protect them.!! One day they are going to realise How christianisation has devastated their ancestral values.
God cannot change your mentality.RIP.
@Zenin-q6k true not a believer of in God's name..There is only one creator and our purpose in life is to become one of them..introspect.!
Politicians, contractor, bureaucrats ,ug.leaders are getting richer at the cost of the common people......
One advice for you people..work hard.Dont blame other for tour laziness,you will further degrade
Do you know that out of over 200 plus or 300 plus faculty members in mu, we have too few STs.
Why are so many STs qualified to be university teachers but not in Manipur?
Why tribal are selfish and cunning? Manipur Tribal need to answer this. Why blame Meiteis for no development in hills? How many times tribal become CM for Manipur? Is there no tribal representative in Manipur assembly or in Top bureaucrats in Manipur govt? The funds are in pocket of Tribal Militants and the MLAs. Remember SDO Kishan who was a Meitei who is against NSCN IM who try to misuse MGNREGA fund. We the Meiteis shout for Ching Tam but the other tribes in hills always have "whataboutery" for their political reason. Outsiders are taking major role in dividing Manipur. Nagaland, Mizoram always wanted to divide Manipur. If the tribe in hills want development why can't the tribal elites build their shoping complex, hotels, hospital, expensive resturant, showroom in Hills not in valley. Their building fool their fellow tribes from hills that valley is more developed. But if you see the reality. The road, drainage, health care facilities are still lagging behind. Worse compared to other state. Seeing those big buildings from Chingmeirong to Singjamei (North to South) Malom to KonungMamang (West to east) can't be taken as development of valley. If you go beyond the above mention places you'll see lack of development. The road to porompat DC, JNIMS, Mayailambi, governor road is worse than Imphal Ukhrul road. Tribal leaders can come forward and do the development work with government together. Don't let your militants group take contract in hills, take illegal tax, misuse govt funds, two government running in hills one govt. running entirely with the profit of the real govt will always be a joke in development. I never touch hills funds I belong to general category. I've to work hard even though my fellow ST friend study in the same university with iPhone in his hand and me with Mi note 10 phone. I'm tired of my fellow tribal accusing Meiteis for their lack of development.
No tribals will comment here to argue as you are saying only the truth....they are only living on delusion
Everyone knows meitei individually are good but as a community it is injurious to people staying around you.
@Zenin-q6k please blame your corrupted leaders and Hill base insurgent group. They're the one who put all the funds in their pocket. Remember those tribal leader who seek RTI for ADC funds? They were hiding in Imphal as militants threatened their life.
@@Zenin-q6k same can be said to other community too ya know... Very harmful to meiteis
@Zenin_q6k 😂 As if you do something good for us? Other than national highway blockade, blaming the Meiteis what do you guys do?
Sowing projecting jelousy hatred through manipulated words without clear understanding shall begate the same projection multifold, what you sow is what you reap, change your mind for the betterment else you are the cause for all of the misery.
Meeteis are tax payer when tribal are not. Its tribal in Manipur who are enjoying with per capita budget allocation more than US citizen at the cost meetei.
Which tax? Everybody pays tax in Manipur.
I've been reading a lot of Sir Sword Vashum's old articles on the internet. As a Kuki-Zo, I have a lot of respect for him.
@@yeett173 yes We Should Unite as Tribals and take and secure the 90% land of Manipur for Tribals ourselves and devide land amount Kuki and Naga instead of Fighting!
The real enemy is the Meiteis as they have right to claim their hill land.
Sword don't need kukis after all kuki's SA is not in line with Naga aspirations..
@@Nam8796manny kuki and Naga must unite because the reward of this unity is 90% land 😎
@@Konkonponponsonson.... Kukis and Naga can never unite due to kuki expansionist movement... And kukis will say a leader is great to only those that kukis can manage to fool...
@@Konkonponponsonson...kukis are not trustworthy....
If its for development n government funds blame the government not the entire meitei..do u think those meiteis politicians thinks for the betterment of the meiteis people lol they r politicians which includes ur tribal Mla n Minister too…politicians think only for themselves ..so stop wit ur mindset dat u will blame the entire meitei community wakhn se khr2 chaonase mapan thoktaba wakhl do thadoko pumnamkki afaba oinaba keinom twbaga meitei da tainabei kok to toko
Who is this sword vashum? Don't open your mouth just like Pakistanis who when their terrorists attack india, would justify it by saying that Pakistan too is a victim of terrorism😂
So corruption is now a communal issue?! Only Meitei corruption is bad but Naga corruption is fine! Also corruption only effects the tribals and not innocent Meiteis??. How do these people come up with this kind of ideas?
Do you know who the cm?
Did you see what ukhrul mla retd ias officer Ram muivah say in a podcast. He was told that the cm had told him not to ask questions in the assembly?
Mr ibobi is known as Mr 10 percent, and that tag was given to him even by the BBC.
Who controls everything in Manipur: the meities we all know right?
@@truthtriumphs580what happen to the hungdung cement factory? Look into all prime land allocated in Imphal recently.
I don't know why the Nagas of Manipur are still neglected and continue to demand ADC and autonomy even when the Constitution of India (Art 371C) mandated the hills to have autonomous councils in the 1971. There is certainly a big conspiracy to withhold the rights of the tribals.
90% land for Tribals hmmmmm
Very fair..
@@Konkonponponsonson blame your ancestors for being unable to sustain in the hills and choosing the easier life of the valleys.
@@AshonshokKachuiP19HSS003 Are you insecure that you won't be able to dominate and take 90% of Manipur hill land as your own? Is that why you get so angry and insecure when "Reserve forests" are mentioned?
Maybe you should change the mindset of "if it's a hill it's my land because I settle on hill so every inch of hill is my land"
Maybe after that who knows the Other community will not feel so insecure about supporting your autonomy. To say that our lands are limited only to the valley is the biggest Insecurity of the Meiteis speaking frankly..
Many Meiteis in the past died in the hills protecting the hill lands from Burmese.
You may think "But Meitei only settle in the valley"
Yes you are correct, but we fought in the hills, we had Thana(Outpost) we had Pal(Fortress) we had Jangs(Army camps)
Talking about sustainability our kingdom sustained for 2000 years until the Toungoo 7 years invasion and then British occupation...
You should know the history, just because are weak now doesn't mean you take chance and lie to us
@@AshonshokKachuiP19HSS003is high time to amend MLR ACT 1960.
@@AshonshokKachuiP19HSS003how many meitei colony in nagas dominated areas BTW meitei wouldn't exist without tribals and vice versa. 80% of Maram population died in Burmese invasion. Most of the elites of Naga have Hugh properties in imphal if we talk about sustainability that's a tight slap back.
Blaming meitei has always been a tool of Naga and Kuki's vote bank and politics while Kuki and Naga both settle in Valley with large land holdings without any taxes saleh thuii
Meitei are the new villains 😂
Ask your tribal MLAs where they spend their local area development fund (10 crore )
Jealousy towards meeteis at it's peak😂 Anchor even your forefathers were under the meetei king....
Summary: Meitei bad, non meitei Christians holy
Why only rights rights rights, what about Meitei rights. No ST, No land protection, no settlement rights outside the valley while all the other tribes enjoy them in the valleys, why no reservation in jobs, why no scholarships despite staying in one of the most artificially landlocked region of the country, why no reservation in selection of MBBS seats and other high repute universities. Think over it Vashum ji and the types and you will definitely backtrack what you have so boldly told in some rugged English tone. If you can find an answer to my question, I will definitely respect you or else you are just another opportunist trying best to fish in troubled waters.
Which topic he is talking understand first and comment.
You enjoy everything in the name of schedule tribe and blame to Meitei, everything provide for you but Indian constitution and still asking right ,
You quota gets you 60-70 percent of jobs in manipur be it any field..the tribals are 30%
Metei enjoy everything. They have their language in Schedule list. Their dances as classical dances. They have SC, OBC and EWS reservation. They have all the infrastructure. School, hospital, airport etc.. Meitei people who talk about land protection on Hills, as if they can buy even land at the valley. BRahhhh. Start living in reality. too much dwelling in illusion is creating war
@@losersmiley8527 take away our SC, OBC, EWS etc. and just let us have only ST. I think this will satisfy your jealousy against the Meiteis😊😊😊
On what official basis do you say " the Meiteis have developed"? Very convenient tool to drive the wedge between the different sections of the public Imphal and Manipur as a whole.
One need to prove that meiteis are not tribal the burden of proof lies on those who opposed meiteis being included in the ST list
The Manipur government, then headed by Chief Minister W. Napamacha Singh, had said that the Meitei community was the “dominant group in Manipur” and need not be included in the ST list. It noted that Meitei people were Hindus and “assumed the status of Kshatriya Caste in the ladder of Hindu Castes” copy and paste
@@valentinoss2611 so the red indians subscribed to christianity and became christians they automatically cease to be Tribes? is that what u are implying? if thats so the converted christians in northeast should cease to be tribals. Am I wrong?
@@valentinoss2611 your views clearly shows how immature and misled you are. I'm 100pc sure you believe that an ST should dress black n red, hold a spear and a bible in hand. Am i right?
@@justsomerandomguy3526you clearly missed his point, the Meiteis refused to be clubbed under ST in 1956 when the ST commission offered them.
@@basmatiChawal24-7 meiteis can become ST anytime they want... In fact they are the real tribe having their own unique customs and religion not found anywhere whereas these so called tribals are just for namesake they have already thrown away the identity and characters of a tribe and they became westernized following western cultures and religion... So who is the real tribe?? 😄
It's to ask and enquire of from the Govt. and it's institutions regarding any developmental aspect whether it may be hospital, schools, college or whatever it may be required, instead of blaming a particular community as a whole. Let's not blame and spread hatred between the communities as long as you believe yourself as a humanitarian. Right???
Valleydana lam leiraga leige hyba aduga leisu leihanba, aduga hills da valley people na business twge lam leige hairagana yadaba, equality leirakanda develop oini , nattrad hills and valley suk nung2si naroi ,eina hairi c da asoiba yaora d hyrk o,
Tribal people are double standard
Eina cm oiradi , kuki naga amta Imphal da leihalloi
The state of Manipur already had two Chief Minister from the Tangkul community.
Yes true but they work under the interest of Meitei and betrayed their own blood tribes to get support if not how they will get the support without majority Meitei so it's just namesake because at the end of the day the decision will be made with Meitei interest.
@@ajitelangbam5581 puppet CMs
@@joylison93shimray42 U have just made a accusation without providing evidence. Don't forget of the 4 leaders who went to jail for fighting for statehood, the three Meities sacrificed and gave the CM post to the one Tankhul. He was later assassinated for refusing to play communal card.
Puppet leaders
@@joylison93shimray42 broo iur words it clearly shows that u really have never read the real history of manipur.Stop playing victim card all the time man all the development works taken up in the hill areas has been disrupted by ur community leaders as well,if u want development u need to be rational towards ur leaders as well,question ur leaders as well stop blaming only the meiteis.
concealed why Shri Th. Kishan, the then SDO was brutally killed along with his two staff. He was killed because he dedicated his life for the development and getting the benefits of various schemes directly by the innocent tribal villagers.
The tribal of Manipur should put up their grievance redressal to government of India and not to Meitei community. Abrogate MLR ACT 1960 to bring development in all parts of Manipur. By ristricting Meitei community in hills,tribals expect development in hills is impossible.
@@mmanichandra1263 they want to dominate and take 90% of Manipur land, they don't want to miss it..
Because 90% land = Hill
And according to them hill = Only their land.
There are no true grievances. All are just made up. They have fair representation in the highest law making body of the state. Of the 4 leaders who went to jail fighting for statehood, all three Meitei sacrificed and gave the Chief minister to the Tangkhu Yangmaso. Shaiza. Shaiza was assassinated later for refusing to play the communal divisive politics. Another ~200 good naga leaders were also assassinated. Listen to the interview with SC Jamir, former CM of Nagaland.
Another Tankgkhul Rishang was sworned in 4 times as CM. There have been many cabinet ministers, IAS, IPS etc. The only true discrimination is against us e.g land, job, income tax, no adult franchise in the hills etc. Their so called grievances are just pure propaganda. MLR is a state act that can be amended/abrogated easily. Our MLAs have caved time and again under threat of violence. Lack of good and intellegent Meitei minister is what led us here. But better late than never! Vote for change in #2027. It's our only way.
@mmanichandra1263 So u mean only where and when meitei settles, development should come??
@@BeingHuman-b3b then why are u people complaining to Meitei community ❓. What ur MLAs, village chief are doing for development apart from buying land , flats outside Manipur ❓. Do u expect someone to come and develop the hills ❓ when tribals can settle in Imphal valley why not valley people can also settle in Hills ❓. Only then the pace of development will follow.
@@rajeshkhumatnthem9179 very much correct 💯
Mr channel n mr anchor n mr speaker...if we start discuss about your people blaming your people n community..u guys will not ve anything to give feedback..if u blame us..u better to know the real history of Manipur.... Meitei goes on by knowing the history otherwise the chapter of Manipur may be other..
Great interaction.... Wake Up Tribals of Manipur with one voice for your future ✌️
St of manipur have been enjoying everything in all respects n you yourselves are stealing from yourselves in the expenses of tribal development. Again blaming others apart from adc elections is a stupid thought
Every community has the right to protect and work for the development of its community. I do not want to indulge in any blame game. But can anybody deny the fact that Manipur is the only place in India where tribals have a say in anything which any ST community can not even think of in any part of India. Before blaming other retrospect what your leaders have done for you in the last few decades other than enriching themselves.
Some Englishmen here talking only in English were consuming very toxic substances which passes through their dependence the toxicity of hatred. They have got whatever they want but still looking the others plate. Never and ever they will come up with an inclusive identity where their ideal community which they call themselves as, had not accepted. The blame game kick off to the Meiteis which was deprived, distorted by the conduct of the inhuman National Highway extortion, blockade. But still remain silence that their greedy brothers will realize one day how much pain they have bear in this juncture of war and hatred. Some joined hand in hand to stay together some selfish poke and make them popularity of spreading hatred.
Per truck tax is 80000 which result to increase prices of every good
Imagine 10 truck passes everyday
Price of 1 bag of cement is 200 rupees costly than that in assam
Another idiot spotted😂
Title is wrong it should be have the tribals developed at the cost of meitei
Sakthu Meitei.😂😂
Tribals in Manipur are like those who shows up at the party without anything and eats all the food and still complains!
Very useful discussion interview.Thank you so much. You should have arranged such kind of discussion for the youngsters.
Why you people didn't asked during two tribal CM Tenure.
Ask the nagaland first , why bad treatment toward east naga people
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Valley (so called )is also place where different communities resides besides Meiteis. The 10% that's been mentioned.
There is inequality in policy even for the Meiteis. And hill communities lacks development. There must be some Reason..but don't Communalise!
But don't generalise and categorize the valley people and blame them. There are vast Meitei population which are underdeveloped in the society called "valley is a developed area'.
Now, since we've prudent people like you and alike things could take a positive turn now!
NRC is the only solution.....we are not insecure of indigenous tribals of manipur ...we are insecure of infiltrators of mayanmar taking lands in Manipur
Tribal Christians of Manipur are sufferings alot, but the central did not pay any attention.When Hindus in Bangladesh suffers every main land Indians are shouting, the Tribals of Manipur are treated like a stray dogs.
371C must go if it is not functional.
When you say valley dwellers it encompasses tribes and non tribes
it is not about insecure. They want to fill their greed which is sky is only the limit. Their tummy are filled yet they want more.
Your mind is filled with shit, what is coming out of it says it all. Projecting yourself on to others that's very sick of you.
Then how could you say meiteis are suppreaaing you when you occupied the 90 percent of the land with a meagre population
Who told you to sell your land for tribals. It was for your own benefit so don't complain about why tribals have land in the valley.
It was your ancestors who made many mistakes cuz Meitei kings always had a supremacy thought that Meiteis were civilised from the beginning with prestigious history and kingdom and so should live in valley and the hills are for Haos, uncivilized people and your ancestors never ever thought of hills and also hill people were very aggressive and unwelcoming outsiders as they were headhunters and after the Indian Independence, tribal leaders requested some Meitei leaders to convert to ST and live as one but they refused saying that Meiteis can never ever be in Hao category some decades passed and even after Manipur statehood in 1972,again tribal leaders requested the Meiteis but Meiteis still had the same supremacy thought and were also furious cautioning the tribals and challenging them not to repeat as they were civilised high class community and could never be converted. Time has changed in this century now we will not allow such advanced community to convert to Hao❌
Imphal valley is meiteis and meeteis land. Do not look beyond imphal vally. Remember 7years of devastation, it affects only meiteis/meeteis people dwellers of valley who are under the rule of king. The independent hill people were not affected . Know the location of your land.
Most of this 90pc land is mountainous and inhabitable
@@Usern4059 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 your fossilized grandfather told you that?
Even tribal should know that ,,, even In tangkhul community have already cm of manipur that time meitei never blame anything to other communities okyy
Tribal right was not suppressed by the meitei tribal are free in manipur they lived everywhere in the state of manipur where as meitei not nevertheless 31% reservation for ST... in any state of India manipur is the best state for tribal and minority look at the mizoram Chakma group and Nagaland Jharkhand etc
Chakmas have 6th schedule. Nagaland is now the most autonomous state as per Article 371A after the removal of Article 370. Jharkhand tribals are governing themselves. Venkatachaliah commission on NCRWC and other commissions all suggested 6th schedule to be given to tribals of Manipur. Why are tribals being denied?
@@yeett173 So 90% land for Tribals is your suggestion...
@@Konkonponponsonson Manipur Valley's population density per capita is lesser than that of the entire Kerala's (Kerala is 29% forest cover btw). Meiteis are the ones who are crying for the protection of forests in Manipur (the state with the 4th highest forest cover), if Meiteis can clearly understand why forest protection is needed, they can also understand why the tribal lands are protected.
@@yeett173you get 6th schedule and we get stuck in the middle with limited resources dried up rivers congestion while you get to stuck two lollipops. After that ADC in next few years you will have monopoly in life lines of our society.
@@yeett173 So 90% land for Tribals?
The irony is tremendous, it's artistic and beautiful!
Veteran leader and vision person.
.. We will not be surprise if kukis claim Sword as a kuki in the next few coming days... This kukis claiming Rishang Keishing, Alfred as kukis is well know to us and it has lost its effect😊
@@Nam8796mannybtw r u naga
@@Nam8796manny we never claimed them as ours.
Its your very own who made silly propagandas about Alfred during election times to draw voters towards NPF.
Meities are also tribals. The only problem is they have been left out of ST list.
Do not mention only the name tribal...u better say the schedule tribes..coz Meitei too is a tribe
What do called tribal in Manipur are occupying more than 90% of land at the cost of meiteis simply because meiteis are not included in tribal but everybody knows Meitei are fit to be tribal and these people are opposing and doing politics every time in the name of tribal to dominate over meiteis. Their greedy level is amazing.
Swords should also talk about poppy and ganja plantation in manipur hills.... Drug trafickking, quality education as well
Very communal caption.
Tribal don't pay tax. Tribal have quota. Tribal enjoy everything free. They are rich. Meitei pay tax. Meitei work hard. Meitei have no quota.In any sports or educaton Meitei represent Manipur though meitei are less than 50℅ in population. Now pick up any results of compitive exam of last 50 years Meitei have struggle and tops on compitition. Now ST says meitei should not be allowed in sports and competitive exam. Funny people
All development budget goes to valley
@@GouLhouvum05 better than to go over at refugees pocket
ST is not the only Quotas. Remember SC/OBC for Pangal. Separate OBC for Meitei. Are all these not a quotas. Greedy meetei wanted to graspse eveything.
Who say tribal don't pay tax? .. Get educated, we pay professional tax, GST, Hill house tax etc... Do you even know what is hill house tax???
Says the guy who have 0.01% knowledge on how the world functions.😂 delulu is the solulu
why not these nagas ask nagaland? Why ask the meiteis since they prohibit meiteis from entering their area ukhrul, go go, go with kuki, You guys talk like the times of monarchy, supressing the conquered community was a thing of past monarchy, why keep blaming meitei for past, do we do this now?
The history of Manipur, 7years of devastation clearly tells the location of kangleipak,the meiteis/meeteis land which is the valley. The hill people have no land in the valley but the valley people sell their land to the hill people. The hill people will never sell their land to the valley people.
Pls discuss about christians and tribes ..a huge differences. How come Manipur tribes possess such high powered sophisticated weapons made in China and USA ?
Please send the Man to the Assembly once, let's experiment.
If I open shop it would be a highly populated area rather than remoteness and co-existent what may be, is right now the Imphal town is. Painted some way the Imphal today also included the outsider businessman non Manipuris. Let's progress together and fence our land
Article 371 applies to nagas of nagaland not applicable to manipur, where under it naga nation of nagaland came into existence, article 371c was given to you as a nagas not as a Manipur tribals, where 6th schedule of indian constitution gives access to only nagas, given a chance to merge with nagas but your manipur tribal said we are manipuris not nagas so how comes tribal of manipur want to enjoy under article 371, what was Reishang keishing doing, when he was the Chief minister of manipur, what a shame instead of taking blame you people are blaming governor same applying to Muivah asking forgiveness from nagas for hijacking naga issues, killing innocent nagas and manipur tribal not supporting naga issues and tangkhul dening themselves as nagas, the nagas of nagaland histories existed thousand years, only manipur tribals existed two hundreds years as you said,
If you don't know all the articles of India please don't talk related to the article. Manipur has clearly article 371C, which Nagaland has article 371A.
There are many 371 (A-J)
A - Nagaland
B- Assam
C - Manipur
D and E - Andra Pradesh now also telangana
F- Sikkim
G - Mizoram
H- Arunachal Pradesh
I- Goa
J- Karnataka
wow perfect example of watsapp university pseudo intellectuals. keep it up nagaland will go far
Rightly said. Meitei intellectuals and leaders have not come to the real sense of coexistence exercising constitutional rights. Only sloganeering with action otherwise.
In regard to the ADC election, CSOs of the tribal community too must put their foot down and say enough is enough and give ultimatum to conduct the ADC election immediately. Tribals body seems to be simply trusting and waiting for apple to fall into their mouth.
Lol blaming the Meiteis again ? 😂
Bro same issue in Municipal elections forget in Manipur
Who objected to the ADC elections ?
Autonomy should be at the village level only if at all and not at the district level. District is home to Meitei and others as well. Uneducated leaders created this mess and must be undone for the benefit of all.
The tragedy of tribal in Manipur is that they welcome other non Indian citizens tribals from Myanmar, Bangladesh following christianity to settle in Hills by making false documents and restrict valley people who are indigenous,to settle in Hills under the banner of MLR Act 1960, Article 371C . Tribals leaders and chieftain are playing exclusive politics at the same time accumulate their personal property and blame Meitei community for their inefficiency and underdeveloped condition. Lastly Naga of Manipur have aspirations of great Nagaland to club with nagaland state however Manipur naga are considered as kacha Naga by nagaland naga. Kuki have aspirations of Zalengam. Outside Manipur people are watching the fighting between manipuri people manily between Meitei -kuki- Naga. Other small 34 tribes etc are in collectral damagae. Meanwhile Meitei Pangal ( muslim) are busy doing business. Everyone will not survive in such environment but who cares.
Meiteis Complaining about Tribals buying land in Imphal when they are the ones selling it to us.
This shows that Meities maintains equality regardless of religion and tribes.Not like ur tribal matha where u peoples talk only about me,you,them,they there is no inclusive policy.
It only shows ur double standard. Blamming meiteis of suppressinf n harassing tribals. Atleast try to reciprocate instead of complaining always
Mizoram, Nagaland, Aŕunàchal Pradesh are complete tribe.
The concept of valley dwellers and hill dwellees itself is weong
I live next to a hill in thangmeiband. Therefore I m born n raised in the hills. Where is my privilege😅
Tribal people only want to get proper facilities from center in the name of cast ,, haaaa it's very funny 🤣🤣🤣 vedio you are making bro ,, they very jelouse to meitei becouse if we have same stutus with them they will not get anything from center ,, my mother also tangkhul i respect every community of manipur but sometimes tribal people making some against meitei ,but meitei never
Better be content with what you are now. Then everything will be alright.
...mr_epo do u really think that," ...it is all becuse of Govt. Machineries/funding...the meiteis has the so called advanced/developed"...?...
This discussion sounds like two brothers quareling for more share from their parents.
Yes! this is the savage truth! about Article 371 (c)!
There has been numerous discussions and workshops regarding Article 371 (c) however it was never ever materialised! and sadly those who are suppose to protect our rights knowingly ignored our right! (Reason best known to them).
Thank you brother Sorinthan.
And a big salute to our fearless respectable TNL President Sir Sword Vashum.
Hope and pray that peace prevail in Manipur again. 🙏🙏🙏
It's a power for the President; not the tribe. Since there is a state assembly it serves no purpose. Buy the book and read the article yourself. Don't let anyone gaslight you.
@@rajeshkhumatnthem9179 You better go through the article yourself below and lets discus. Your half-backed knowledge is not helping anyone.
Article 371 C.... says that:
i) Committee
The President can order the formation of a committee in the Legislative Assembly of Manipur. The committee will be made up of members elected from the state's Hill Areas.
ii) Governor's report
The Governor must make an annual report to the President on the administration of the Hill Areas. The President can also direct the state on how to administer the Hill Areas.
iii) Tribal land
The article states that tribal peoples in Manipur have maintained their commons under customary law. It also states that tribal societies continue to administer their villages under customary law.
iv) Customary law
The article states that tribal peoples' customs, traditions, and beliefs have been contested due to interactions with outsiders.
For the state of manepur is article 371 / c and state of nagaland is article 371 / A
Because they have 40 MLAs whereas tribals have 20 MLAs
When we Kuki-Zo demand total separation from manipur. Here, manipur nagas are crazy about HAC and ADC. CRAZY.. Where is their demand of Greater Nagaland Stand here?
Wait and dream for another 50 years?
If manipur nagas led by Tangkhul really want their dream to come true, they should support and work together with Kuki-Zo and get some sort of autonomous during this crises. So that, it will be half job done after naga solution is finalize. Otherwise, ZUF fight for their own administration will become more and more legit.
This is an idiotic discussion of so-called intellectual people. Give away your reservation to your backward & own community. Your son & daughter will absorb the reservation and blame other communities.
Tf you blabbering about ?
An idiot spotted yet again
Funny people funny point, never talk about poppy, drug,
Let all those 20 mlas resign and demand our rights, which is none to impossible😂
One question for our brothers Nagas that if the kukis don't apposed the ST Demand of the meities but if they support the meities in their demand for ST,Then will our brothers Nagas also agreed with the kukis to allow the meities settlement in hill tribals areas,if agree the the war is over,
ST for meities. It will be big problems for tribals in Manipur. Although we dnt like the way they treat us, but cnt deny the fact that they are intellectual and outsmarts us in many fields like medical, engineering, sports, education. Like in UPSC meities are in top 50 position that mean they have a great capabilities. You know really well that once they get ST we will be nowhere. still now they are in many positions in government job like 70% are meities. It's like giving all the plate of rice to them. It's depend on kukis whether you support or opposed them coz you peoples are independent in your own way of taking decision for your own peoples. Everyone has their own opinions whether it's nagas ,kukis or meities. Wise decision is a must for every communities so that we dnt regrets later on.
Mathalak hangmi hair joh oja
Remember there are many tribals living in the valley
Nagas and Kukis should work harder and compete with others on a level playing field. I haven't seen any Nagas or Kukis in the private sector or fields where there are no reservations. And they complain they are not developed. You are not developed because you don't work hard. And, both kukis and nagas should keep in their mind that forests/hills are not your father's property. your property ends in the registered/recognised villages. Don't force all Meties to take the path of violence like you people have. Check your own history and you will find Meities can also become very very violent.
Oh chudai Meiteis have sc obc ews
Who is Mary Kom ? & mc almost all top officers in Manipur are kukis
So scary bro
Waa Chw ngng u rnu yre
Nokningba ama ywrkdwre😄
Good challenge tho, let's take it in a positive note
Imphal Valley like America hills like amazon
Manipur naga leaders are still sleeping or pretending ,wonder why they dont understand tribals Christian neighbor are suffering but still watching cm biren face n power
Best is not to use religion card here tribal is tribals whether is non Christian or Christian. You are tribals first before you converted into Christianity. Playing religion is tricky thing to communal riot that mean division among the tribals. Always support for humanity and innocent peoples which domination it's belongs ,should not discriminate on the basis of their communities or religion.
Needless to say but Hill leaders had /have/will have compromise our tribals right for money. Please stop blaming the other communities
Agreed 100%. Contemptuous in nature is the most appropriate description
Are we really talking about hypocrisy?? Really. After this we will talk about peace now. Then you cud see what you have missed.
You should ve very clear how the tribals are suppressed in Manipur
@@IndraKonthoujam Bruh dude atleast out the Timing where u are giving an counter argument...
Meitei concern about illigal refugees from Myanmar..not indigenous tribal....... don't try to mislead the narrative
This topic should had been in The Lungleng Show which is more popular and independent. When people know that the channel is pro to any political party, we don't value the content anymore
Hahaha. We all know you're a huge fan of Sorinthan Haorei. Don't be shy!
We see that you don't miss any of his episode. Your negative comments are his strength. Keep it up!
That wannabe Dhruv Rathee is apolitical? His juvenile statements are boring for others too. 🥱
Both of you should not be concealed why Shri Th. Kishan, the then SDO was brutally killed along with his two staff. He was killed because he dedicated his life for the development and getting the benefits of various schemes directly by the innocent tribal villagers.
Lol the hell we would be insecure about?
Meitei singsee hotnabadee yaam kanbane. Jungle dei thoklakpa khara na Loi manghalle..
Jungle has no relation with Pukhripur.
We almost got Sixth schedule back then during LK advani time, when Hill Tribal Union was going for it in full swing.. It was NSCN IM utopian dream of sovereignty that clampdown the movement. Now its almost too late, meitei masses are politically awaken and will opposed it tooth and nail to maintain their privileged status quo.
Remember a bird in hand is better than two in the bush.
That's why this conflict wouldn't end it will go on...
@@Eon2348 if they IM/Nagas leadership were more selfless & visionary back then, as they always claim to be even now, the conditions of manipur tribals might be very different as of now. The centre/parliament back then were ready to bulldozed the state government, if needed. Meitei Legislators were begging at the feet of our tribal MLAs, crying their people will burnt them alive and offering individuals hugh amount of money to trace back their demand. Some of ours even think about it. Then, IMs step in the scene and arrest all leaders in their region claiming you guys are just hampering with our ceasefire talks which is finally bearing fruit & 90% already concluded. They thought center might settle their long endured years of struggle and sacrifice for a sixth schedule which is too little to less according to them. But we should be more rational & realistic sometimes according to ground reality.
This is like the scenario of Armenia and Azerbaijan conflict. Armenian should have settled for an autonomous enclaves for Nagorno karabak region while they held the upper hand. Now Azerbaijan has risen from the ash stronger then ever and the former loss everything, forever. Due to their over greed & visionless leadership.
@@suanneihsial3356 isn't the whole conflict about land..
Like since 90% of Manipur = Hills
So that tribals will get big land they want to get autonomy to secure their dominance over 90% of Manipur land.
Maybe because of that.
??? Tangkhul history is only 200 years old ?? That means Kuki are more old inhabitants of Hills in Manipur 😅😅..what a joke
Cow dung headed spotted 😂
TANGKHUL AND MEITEIS ARE BLOOD BROTHERS SAYS TNL. THEY SHOULD SHARE EVERYTHING. WHY THE DOUBLE STANDARD?
Same community but different opinions. Its happen in our own sibling too😊. That why god is great for making us chaos.😂
The tribals of Manipur are not under 5th schedule. I think the President has made a slip of tongue. Refer Article 244(1) of the Constitution of India which is meant only for administration of Scheduled Areas.
Yes you are 👍 the tribals of Manipir are not in 5th Schedule he must have slipped his tongue or forgot to recollect the ten states under 5th Schedule
Manipur se looina louro Noigini. Take Manipur as a whole it belongs to Tribal people. Meitei d mi nattre....!!! Taba ware
😂😂😂 the whole videos summary is we tribals r less developed underdeveloped, suprressed n harrassed by meiteis becoz meiteis r insecure n jealous our undeveloped status.
Meiteis r scared that tribals will achieve better than them even when with st status n quotas whn we rnt even to achieve their status even after years of quota privilege.
Wtf r u ppl thinking? 😂😂😂😂😂
Ja biren sir biren o biren...
Is this the guy that have said "Ao Naga women are promiscuous"?
please don't associate his statement against SC Jamir to that of the Facebook post by "Patriotic Naga". Although the incident came at the same time but they are totally different person.
the person who commented is arrested and is awaiting trials while this person is the chief of the Tangkhul Hoho.
@tiapongen4390 This is not a nagaland issue..please stay out!!
Ashon.... Tnl prez is very articulate and elite political leader..... I hope he is not the same person whose fb post is causing uproar...... Let mutual respect and peace prevail now and forever among nagas and other community 🙏
@@johnmathew379 please update yourself. the facebook person is arrested by the Cyber Cell in Delhi.
Manipur a mashed, Messy state!