Destiny, the fact that this psycho actually believes this will end up in court, reveals either where he wants this to go, or where he’s scared this will go. Either way, talk to a lawyer asap
“I want to talk to you, and want you to answer my questions, but I refuse to answer any of your questions”….. He’s doing that on purpose…. I doubt he’s afraid to answer how long destiny has “dog piled” him, but is doing so because he wants everyone listening to go read his article just to find out how long he “thinks” he was “dog piled” on…. He’s trying to manipulate the viewers into reading his stupid “article” but has refused to even say when his “investigation” will be over and when this “article” will be available to be read.
Dude zherka is like the scariest cop/investigator from a crime movie. He has that insane type of interrogation methods. He should be solving serious crimes for a police department. Hes amazing.
I’ve never seen Max so submissive in a conversation. Zherka is un-ironically the counter to max. Also much more perceptive and intelligent then he first appears.
@Throw Away it’s corny as hell, at-least in my opinion anyways. I avoid using any internet common lingo and buzzwords. I would rather use my own words. I’m glad I’m not alone, no disrespect to anyone who chooses to do so, you do you.
@@danielandree3947 It only beats the gun, if you're staying within like a couple feet of that same rock xD. But god damn it was fun to see MrGirl squirm under Zherka's onslaught xD.
@@youronlybro9708 mr girl isn't logical; he's raw emotion. But hes convinced his emotions are reality. That's what makes him interesting for casual observations, but insane to take as any level of fact or knowledge.
Zherka: "You're falling in love with the E-girl Lav Lune, right?" (...) MrGuro: "No" Zherka: "Why not? Is she ugly?" *Chef's kiss* Bless John. He is a gem. A high priest of childish trolling.
@@SubzeroBlack68 yeah krillin is the strongest human, has the hottest wife, a loving and supportive family and daughter, and eventually a decent hairstyle
@@TheBlueFoxeh His wife is a robot, and he's usually the punchline/after-thought. That's probably(?) the general idea Zherka was going for, since that's Krillin's earlier/most popular iteration (from back in the day).
Imagine being mr girl, a few months ago you're doing debates, having interesting convos on a big platform and gaining an audience. Fast forward to now, you're being bullied in a leaked call by fucking Zherka
Hotline was the boringest fucking show on TH-cam. Imagine listening to destiny talk with his tier4 subs except somehow even more boring. That was mrgirl hotline.
Bro put the barrel in the mouth of his streaming career and pulled the trigger. He had no where to go but up, but was like "nah let me go jump off this cliff".
@@chadmwilliams89 , exactly. Max never had the level to get on Lex's podcast, to begin with. I'm glad it did not happen, as it would have been a stain on Lex's record. Meanwhile, his conversation with Destiny was acceptable, and made for good content. I don't think there's another example in the on-line political debate sphere of someone self destructing so quickly, with such intent, and irreversibly...
It's kind of crazy how well Zherka dismantles Mr.Girl. He is almost spot on with what Max is doing. Obviously he missed some of the nuances and memed a bit, but just plainly spiting in Mr.Girls face with straight facts is hilarious.
Mr. Girl may be completely unhinged right now, but he has some valid criticisms about destiny. Destiny takes pot shots shitting on people he interacts with all the time, like how he did to train wrecks. Would shit talk trainwrecks all the time on stream, then go on trains podcast and acted way more reserved. He definitely shits on people in his life all the time.
@@grantwerner7332 Mr.Girl always was and always will be unhinged get that through your head. Destiny is certainly not the best guy and kind of an asshole. He would admit that much, but everyone already knows that.
@@grantwerner7332 nobody watches Destiny because he's a nice guy, people like it when he goes unhinged and shits on people it's funny af, if you want to watch a streamer that never takes shots at people watch someone like sykkunno. Nothing wrong with that btw sykkunno funny too. Also, the criticism isn't valid at all, Destiny will admit he's an asshole, but MR. Girl just wanted special treatment which he had already been receiving but it wasn't enough for him. He's just a narcissist.
Lol Zherka is what people mistakenly think narcicism is like because of his trolling and ego, but rwal narcicism is a lot more like Mr.Girl where the person has these delusions of grandeur, victimization, and self destruction.
A year meaning a while, idk exactly how long and wasn’t watching anyone when they got banned. Idk if it was up until the ban(s) (is infrared banned?) or what
Imagine going to Zherka for legit information. If you go to Jon for info on horses he’s going to give you a dissertation on spider monkeys while telling you he’s definitely giving you info on horses the entire time.
To defeat an angel you need to drag him to hell . They are trying to fight in heaven while they are just angels fighting an archangel but zerka is satan himself
@@DirtyRat ok, just to give this guy a break, I think I understand what he's trying to say. He's saying Max is an archangel, even though Lucifer is the only archangel that turned against God (destiny, lol cringe), and the other orbiters are other angels. The only way to really defeat the archangel is to drag him to hell where Satan (Zerhka) will fuck his shit up. Now that that's explained, yes most sane Destiny fan was correct. What a horrible analogy.
He's not trolling though. Look at someones actions not their words. It seems right from the start that he intended to hold his feet to the fire, but if he's not trolling like Zherka classically would, it would be too sus.
I have good news for you my friend. The Daliband has returned your wife and child to you for meeting your destiny girls name quota. Congratulations the terrorism ends here.
Contrast this interaction with zherka vs mrgirls interaction with his orbiters that were questioning him and you can see that when he’s facing someone he can’t intimidate or control he tends to be humble and answer questions… he did not once bring up “that’s a questatement” or “ she’s my daughter “ bullshit
@@TheTGOAC He's a guy who blends real quality advice with hardcore trolling to the point where most people can't tell when he's trolling and being serious. The dude's got heart and a good head on his shoulders. But he's mastered all the conspiracy debates like flat earth.
The sad part about this conversation Zherka had with Max is Max never brings up Shaelin as a reason why he wouldn't marry Lav or have sex with her. Nor did he ever mention that he is in a relationship.
Yeah, I noticed that too, haha. I wonder if it's because he thinks that she's "controlling" him if he choses not to have sex with someone because of their relationship. Like he has to not actually feel physical attraction to anyone else in order to be "free".
Gotta say, going out of your way to include all the little bits of context one could've missed/not had while watching the streams is incredibly useful for Destiny lore transcription.
MrGirl actually kind of scares me. At first it was just cringy and creepy "you destroyed our friendship" stuff with people he never met in real life, he was almost holding "friendship" over peoples heads like a sword. I had no idea he adopted Lav, I had no idea he is an admitted and open r@p1st. He is perfect for a cult following. I almost cringed into another dimension the other day with the "Would you like me to read you a list of why I'm perfect to investigate Destiny? I had my girlfriend write it for me" and it was unironically just a list of narcissistic traits😳🤮
I think he has a VERY troubling personality. I don't wanf to be brash but he seems like he may have hurt small animals as a kid. Faux empathy, well versed in tricks of humanity and the hubris of a dictator.
Zherka is very effective against max because max thrives when people are trying to read into things during interactions while he muddies everything, while Zherka doesnt read besides bionicle, sonic literature and dragonball GIGACHAD edit: he says masonic literature, but zherka reading sonic literature is one fake news i'm willing to spread
LMAO Ok there's another comment on here that says he said "bionicle, Masonic Literature, and Dragonball." No I wonder if he said masonic or my sonic. Lmao that's such a funny mixup
he's implying to zherka that there's these curves to be drawn but zherka just draws a straight line and connects all the dots and max can't really argue with it. i think max has a hard time selling bullshit to people who only examine his actions and not his justifications.
This whole convo basically just shows that Zherka is a full on chaotic evil persona who loves to troll, but he’s far from an idiot. Dude basically point blank called out Mr. Girl on every point of hypocrisy with no filter or meandering charitability nonsense.
Zherka is hilarious 😂 😭 😂 The orbiters that "questioned" Max about his fraudulent "investigation" should be ashamed that Zherka did a better job questioning and revealing some of Max's real motives. Good job Zherka 😂 I never thought I would say that
I don't know if its because Zherka is very effective in his conversations or if its because Max is a very shitty interviewer but at no point in this "interview" was Max in control. Not only did Zherka completely brush off any questions Max asked but Max was answering every question Zherka asked and was being confronted with any incongruences in his story. This is an absolute gold mine and should be a very eye opening experience for anyone who still thinks this investigation will lead to anything substantial.
I genuinely believe Max thought he could flip zherk with the passive aggressive "don't even read the article if you're not even going to give me a chance". It's clearly a reverse psychology game he's trying to pull and failing to do so. There's nothing to be gained from cutting Zherk off since Max wants to get him to say things that aren't charitable to Destiny. Remember that little line about online debate streamers being all about dogpiling? You could hear the momentary life returning to the feeble boy for just a moment. He's after tiny cuts like that and thinks not going postal will coax Zherk into it.
Zerkha's main part about Lav is exactly what I thought when I first heard that mr girl was going rogue. I thought he was just mad that he found out destiny and Lav hooked up and got uncontrollably jealous, hence the crusade. Which is why he doesnt know what he's looking for in his vendetta, like Zerkha was saying cos he's just grasping at straws to find some pattern of abuse. Instead of just feeling like orbiters dont get enough respect, which doesn't really track. After thinking about it, actually its probably both of those feelings that pushed him over the edge, especially if he has narcissistic tendancies he probably felt like they were both personal sleights, so when people call him on the Lav thing he can pivot to destiny's an abuser and still be authentic to himself.
Interesting how he's so submissive when talking to someone he knows won't put up with his BS. Usually Mr.Girl talks over people and is rather aggressive, not now though...not when he's faced with someone that won't put up with his BS like I said....lol
probably helps that this wasn’t live or a public showing or anything. Mrgirl likes to play up his persona when he knows people are watching. Not surprising from a narcissist.
He also has to play the role of stoic, virtuous (and traumatized) cop instead of brash troll, bc that’s the narrative he’s spinning here. I think mr girl would talk over Zherka and stuff if it were a different situation because he thinks the things he says are brilliant, but now he knows he had to appear to treat the situation with gravity. Although I’ve never seen a convo between two potential narcissists (don’t know if either is one bc both are mediated via an inherently narcissistic medium, plus I’m only an armchair psychologist Tuesday evenings for extra cash)
"I'm conducting an investigation" This literally means "I decided Destiny is a sex abuser and I'm going to fish forever and hunt down his partners and try to manipulate an agreement out of them and use them to hurt him, because he banned me from his subreddit, and I'm literally the perfect person to do this"
I really enjoyed this to the point that this is the 3rd version I've heard so far, because Max is usually arguing in the clouds, floating through conversations with people trying to speak at that level, but Zherka just drags this guy to the ground and makes him try to answer the simplest questions causing Max to finally squirm. I mean I don't think Max is obsessed with Lav really, but Z just attacking the most basic angles while bulldozing all of Max's obfuscations is hilarious
This was like watching the early Trump debates and trying to understand how he was winning. I was dying when he wouldn't let Max slip out of that "Cuties" question. I suspect that Zherka had already heard the original video but Max tried to wiggle outta that question by paraphrasing his comments. Which is funny because this is the 1st time I have seen Max try to slip that question. Usually, he just admits that he referred to the girls as being "hot" and moves on. One thing that I am really curious about is the truth about Max's mom. I saw some video where he claimed that his mom told him that she was sexually attracted to him or that she wanted to have sex with him or something. On the one hand, that kind of trauma would help explain quite a bit. On the other hand, it sounds like an insane thing for a parent to admit to their child. Pretty sure he is also estranged from the rest of his family over some petty nonsense too.
@@xp7575 The sad thing is, it would actually be way less cringe if he really were obsessed with her. The truth is he doesn't even particularly like Lav, he just makes a big theatric display of caring about her now because she's a useful pawn for him to use against Steven.
He is not even krillin...at least krillin had the makings of a good family man/friend and got a strong indepedent woman to be with lol. In fact i don't think he has a dbz equivalent lol, even the baddies have more honour there.
@@YourPrivateNightmare i dunno at least radditz was just looking for a challenge...a saibaman maybe? green mean looking toxic plant that blows itself up and takes you with it haha.
@@YourPrivateNightmare i think he only used krillin because krillin secretly did stuff out of horniness. Zherka is convinced that mrgirl is only doing this to get with lav
I know Destiny says Mr. Girl isn’t doing this out of spite, but it really feels like a “if I can’t be a part of your community then you can’t either!” situation. Plus he flip flops between Destiny been a coworker and friend. He says you should give people you work with an ultimatum, but at the same time considered him a friend. You would never give a friend that kind of ultimatum, especially about something as unimportant as a subreddit.
yeah honestly feels like spite and like zherka said i think mr. girl has some weird kind of sexual interest in lav none of these arguments happened(in public) til lav showed up and the way they interact just feels strange
Zherka is like kryptonite to Max, it's unbelievable. I honestly am so surprised because Zherka would sometimes get on my nerves. Max is so accustomed to outmaneuvering everyone through psychological games and word plays but Zherka is just laughing in his face. Max can't outsmart him because Zherka isn't playing his game. It's shocking.
Jon does an amazing job not being pushed around here I am more than impressive I've never had much of an opinion of Jon before as able to have these convos but this has changed now 5 minutes in wow. Edit ok wow I might start watching Jon's vids I'm smitten now Edit2: I hate to say it mrgirl said it best "I hate that you pretend to be stupid"
Even as Mr girl calls destiny a rapist destiny's dumbass still gives him way too much charitability. Saying things like "Mr girl actually believes what he's saying" and "he doesn't like lav as more than a friend" or that "he's not trying to hurt me or damage me" is dumb. That's exactly what he's trying to do. He's pissed that you cut him off and he's trying to find a way to get even with you anyway.
I get tired of Zherka really fast when he's bullshitting on panels but when he's in the zone he has the potential to be one of the most based streamers. He's over here living out Sneako's truth through funny fantasy
Sometimes you just gotta fight fire with fire. mrgirl takes himself way too seriously so the best way to deal with him is to just troll the shit out of him
Mr girl sometimes sees himself as a troll but now hes wearing the cop hero hat so he has to be stoic and virtuous. Same reason he was so uncomfortable and distanced himself from the cuties topic, where he used to be brash with his opinion and controversial on purpose (and that’s what created his career besides destiny).
@@sams7068 Isn't his whole thing suppose to be about speaking honestly? No bullshit filters, say how you really feel regardless if it's uncomfortable or not? I know he's full of shit regardless but I'm pretty sure that's the image he wants to present of himself so I don't know why from his perspective he would devolve into trolling
There's something about Zherka's laugh that is just completely contagious. Every time Max says something to him and Zherka just laughs I couldn't help but start laughing too. I'm also going to point out that at 39:00 when Jon says "So if she threw you some ass you wouldn't take it?" Mr. Girl dodges the question and just responds "we have a completely platonic relationship." Just my opinion. But I think that you can triangulate an intersection between three points of reference 1) That Max calls Lav his daughter 2) That Max sexualizes children that would be the age of his daughter if he had one 3) That Max only started getting mad when he found out Steven fucked Lav Hahahaha he dodges the same question again at 59:00
I’m waiting for a call where the person pretends to be persuaded by max over the course of the call and they say at the end “you know there is one thing he has done to me a lot… he tells me that destiny is a boys name”
I will never understand why Destiny and half of his community seem to have hate for Zherka. He's actually hilarious and can't be intimidated or gaslit like so many others that MrGaslight has come after. The man has a mental resilience so many others lack online. I unironically have a lot of respect for him as a fellow memer. My 4 Orbiters of the DGG apocalypse are Erudite, Zherka, Aba, and Dan.
Some people can't get over his views but I think he's really funny. And this sounds kind of crazy, but I like to imagine Zherka is some cossack commander that was pulled from that time period, sent to Miami and put in front of a computer in this time period. He just doesn't give a shit and it's too funny especially here encountering the ultimate sensitive empath lefty type. I watched the flat earth debate because of this interview and that was funny as hell too
Zherka is the kindof guy that you just can't have a cohesive conversation with. The fact that he's funny and doesn't care is a double edged sword. Every conversation has him firmly planted and unmoving on his postions while he finds a creative and funny way to call you a degenerate for disagreeing which is great content but really grating/exhausting after a while. He seems like one of those people who are incapable of having serious conversations.
@@benjoleo but i think zherka's implying that what he's doing is no different than any other streamer digging shit on others for petty drama, not some moral crusade like he pretends like it is.
@@benjoleo I think the implication of “dirt” is _anything_ that could harm their reputation. Like if you dig up dirt on a politician, it could be dirt on their marriage, their finances, anything in their life.
@@grantmoe9535 sure, my disagreement is just with matt's comment implying that looking for dirt means one isn't looking for the truth. I'm not making any claim about Mr Girl
This was like watching old episodes of Columbo. For all you youngens out there, Columbo was a TV show and the main character used to trip people up by playing dumb and then leading them into traps. Double edged sword with Zherka, but he isn't gonna allow much room for nuance. And Max has a really hard time operating in a conversation where he has to face questions that can't really be answered with nuance.
I cannot understand why nobody is calling out the fact max was in love with DESTINY. Watch their one on one streams and max’s goo-goo eyes throughout. This drama is fuelled by lust, but not for lav. He’s using lav as a weapon against destiny because he’s crushed destiny had the sexual connection with someone other than him
Zherka is spot on the lav thing mr girl is broken that destiny hooked up with her, and respect for him for defending destiny on principle not the hatred of mr girl
Zherka is a loose cannon, you have no idea what he will come out with memes, insults or bizzare rant. But then he hits you with searing insight on what you just said and it blindsides.
I still think the Dr. K saga was basically Max wanting to take out an adversary that made Max feel inadequate cuz he never went further with his Psychology career. Many people said it wasn't personal but IMO it was clear how personal it was for Max who built his entire identity around being empathic.
I thought the same thing... up until Destiny, MrGirl went after Dr K, Brittany Simon, and NotSoEuridite. All streamers with Call in shows - his competition basically.
I knew there would be someone who would be able to call Max out properly on his bullshit lol. I was thinking maybe a lawyer - someone who can take someone's answer and rip it apart in a way they didn't expect...turned out to be Zherka. Gosh
@@shirinatron it's because MrGirl's tactics only work on those who are primarily blue in nature. He bros down with those who are primarily yellow. But Zherka is pure red with a bit of yellow, which is why none of his tactics work on Zherka. I'm speaking of the alchemical symbolism, of course.
49:19 zherka makes a point that I think everyone agrees is the issue. Max is CHOOSING to be antithetical to the entire debate stream sphere and is so upset he’s reaping the blow back of it. If you get up on a stage; and people don’t like it, you get booed and ridiculed. He came to participate in the club and the moment Steven stops vouching for him he wants to nuke the whole game board. Big take your ball and go home energy.
Crazy how just a few months ago the chat was running defence for MG and now they pretend as if they don't even know him, it happens, chats are always npcs waiting for the new DLC
Zherka said what I thought the whole time - mrgirl's doing it to try to keep Lav from Destiny so he can isolate Lav, because she gave him flirty attention when she first met him and he fell for her. He's an insane Lav simp.
Looking back from January 2025, this was peak Destiny. The political arc and obsession with trump is just unwatchable at this point. I miss the Ana and Mr Girl era
Mr.girl when his fanboys mention lav during questioning: DONT YOU TALK ABOUT MY DAUGHTER mr.girl to zherka: master zherka, i wont show you any aggression
Destiny ALMOST has it. Max isn't delusional. Max is hardcore framing the narrative in a way to paint Steven as an abuser in whatever way possible. He's already said people are too afraid to confront him about abuse so he HAS to find something to fit that narrative. Him messaging someone and them not responding works in favor of that narrative to PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC. It's all about building this narrative to prove his point, not because he actually believes it. He's in full control and is desperately trying to find whatever he can to make Steven look as bad as possible.
Zherka is like Wato from Phantom Menace. "Your mind tricks don't work on me, Jedi." He's like a Green Hexproof monster in magic the gathering that isn't affected by Blue Sorcery and Instant spells. Dude's a straight berserker unaffected by the trickster mage. Are my nerd references making any sense? lol
@@Stop_Gooning Nice, I haven't played since college so I feel you. Blue has always been about manipulation and negating spells rather than summoning monsters and buffing them up right?
@@TheTGOAC Magic the gathering's color system is based off of the alchemical symbolism of the colors. Which is actually something Zherka knows, so I'm sure he'd understand regardless of whether he played magic or not
Zherka is cutting to the bone. Max is got so deflated after Jon pointed out what Destiny did for him in the past year. It is actually painful to listen to, but Max kind of deserves it as he planted the seeds, now he's reaping the rewards...
no, your wrong, he isn't cutting Max at all, Max is a REAL narcissist, one who has fully Double-Think'd himself into believing many conflicting things to keep his internal image in check, they are quite literally incapable of being confronted with damning shit like that, they can even admit its true, but will act like the entire conversation never occured in a few minutes/days.
@@keithfilibeck2390 before this talk I’d totally be with you. I think this talk might’ve actually got to him. I could be wrong, and he likely will still post the article, but I got a sense he might’ve “came to Jesus” because of Zherka. His tone is so different from the start compared to the end
@@shiitalkiemushrooms4487 like I said, people like that reset like robots, you cannot meaninfully interact with the real them, there is an idea of Max, an abstraction, but he simply isn't there.
@@keithfilibeck2390 could be. Could also just be blinded by rage, could be he fought destiny thinking he could use him to be his stepping stone to new heights as a “hero” of some sort, could be he actually is super into lav and doing what he thinks will get her. Motive is hard to hammer down, but objectively, max lost here and will likely never recover. No sense in beating him up tho, he’ll get his due after the dog pile of the century once he does release this dumb article lmao. I’m not one to agree with destiny automatically that he’s a pure narcissist. I think people ebb and flow through these states and it’s a perfect storm. He does have a pretty extensive narcissistic arc tho for sure
Listening to this as someone who's barely followed the DGG verse was still gold haha. I have no idea who Zherka is but he seems hard case. Using halo and DBZ as analogies when Max is being all serious 😆. Idk the past with Zherka but listening to him just shows how solid Destiny comes across if someone can talk highly of him when they're considered to be a bit of an enemy of his community. Anyways, this was a good listen. Nice to hear people with differing opinions speak highly of someone who they disagree with on many issues. That's how I wish the world be more like
I know this is a joke but my take is you’re always an empath if you only let people close to you if they defer to you. Like legitimately I think Mr Girl believes he’s an empath for that reason, he seems to very easily ends relationships and is left with the only people he can really appear to empathize with, those who almost always agree with him. The videos he posted with Shaelin where they disagreed show how little he can really empathize (if this man isn’t an ARG, which I’m still not convinced of having seen only a few of his online appearances).
Zherka is unironically the best character in the DGG canon, I've been saying it for awhile, despite the shit talking and memes this guy is way smarter than he often comes off, this conversation is the best proof of that so far.
Zherka's video ►th-cam.com/video/nQGZAd37UV8/w-d-xo.html
omg thank you for editing out mr girl breathing directly into the mic
Destiny, the fact that this psycho actually believes this will end up in court, reveals either where he wants this to go, or where he’s scared this will go. Either way, talk to a lawyer asap
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"I only read Bionicle, Masonic literature, and Dragonball."
That may be the greatest sentence I've ever heard.
That's some Chad shit right there
Zherka is that 1st villain in a story that got defeated a long time ago that shows up and beats the new big bad evil guy.
"If I couldn't defeat DesTiny NOBODY CAN!!!"
He’s like piccolo
Vegeta
@@TheAverageBrug I was gonna say Vegeta.
It’s like when the X-men had to team up with Magneto, to beat Apocalypse.
Max sounds absolutely defeated…taking abuse from Zherka for an hour just for the glimmer of hope that he’ll give up a morsel of dirt on Destiny.
He was hoping for “Destiny goes hard on people” or something like that.
he trotted the desert and zherka wouldn't give him a drop of water, wouldn't even piss on him.
@@grantmoe9535 well spoken lmfaoooo
@@grantmoe9535 gd lol
“I want to talk to you, and want you to answer my questions, but I refuse to answer any of your questions”…..
He’s doing that on purpose…. I doubt he’s afraid to answer how long destiny has “dog piled” him, but is doing so because he wants everyone listening to go read his article just to find out how long he “thinks” he was “dog piled” on…. He’s trying to manipulate the viewers into reading his stupid “article” but has refused to even say when his “investigation” will be over and when this “article” will be available to be read.
Imagine trying to contact Zherka and thinking that he’ll take literally anything seriously.
It’s like watching someone try to draw blood from a stone.
Great analogy 👌
well said
Zherka is BASED
Dude zherka is like the scariest cop/investigator from a crime movie. He has that insane type of interrogation methods. He should be solving serious crimes for a police department. Hes amazing.
@@skraminc unironically true if he could do this to max he could do this to almost anyone
I’ve never seen Max so submissive in a conversation. Zherka is un-ironically the counter to max. Also much more perceptive and intelligent then he first appears.
Max is only sticking around because he's looking for absoulutely anything. When he tried to say he had a quote?? hahaha 54:31
@Throw Away it’s corny as hell, at-least in my opinion anyways. I avoid using any internet common lingo and buzzwords. I would rather use my own words. I’m glad I’m not alone, no disrespect to anyone who chooses to do so, you do you.
I take the stance that it’s not corny online but the second you say “unironically, this” or “based” IRL becomes extremely corny
*it becomes extremely corny
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@@sams7068 Based opinion lmao. When in irl I’ll just say “actually” instead of “literally” or “unironically”
Zherka being MrGirl's kryptonite is the funniest thing to emerge from all this. It's like debater rock paper scissors 🤣
True lmao 🤣
MrGirl was playing rock when Zherka was playing a gun
@@Mizerak356 depending on how large the rock is, it could potentially beat the gun….
It’s more like he played paper, and zherka was using chainsaw.
@@danielandree3947 It only beats the gun, if you're staying within like a couple feet of that same rock xD. But god damn it was fun to see MrGirl squirm under Zherka's onslaught xD.
rock paper Zherka 🤣
Zherka literally did a better job interrogating mr girl then destiny's orbitors
Sad thing is that zherka is a flat earther too. Never thought a flat earther had the capability to actually corner someone as logical as Mr girl
@@youronlybro9708 Is he for real or just trolling the fuck outta everyone?
@@youronlybro9708 mr girl isn't logical; he's raw emotion. But hes convinced his emotions are reality. That's what makes him interesting for casual observations, but insane to take as any level of fact or knowledge.
@@c0rpse1 lol bro, what are you even talking about? 😂 Why would I reflect on myself and what makes you think I hold my views on collective mindset?
@@youronlybro9708 That was a complete and thorough PWN.
Zherka: "You're falling in love with the E-girl Lav Lune, right?" (...)
MrGuro: "No"
Zherka: "Why not? Is she ugly?"
*Chef's kiss*
Bless John. He is a gem. A high priest of childish trolling.
'she too old for you?' 🤣
@@chronographer That's fuckin funny dude XD
"You're trying to be Goku when really you're just Krillin" I can't stop laughing, it hurts so bad.
Should have said Yamcha
@@SubzeroBlack68 yeah krillin is the strongest human, has the hottest wife, a loving and supportive family and daughter, and eventually a decent hairstyle
@@TheBlueFoxeh His wife is a robot, and he's usually the punchline/after-thought. That's probably(?) the general idea Zherka was going for, since that's Krillin's earlier/most popular iteration (from back in the day).
Shit is to funny
@@GrimlyYours Keep Krillins name out of your f'ing mouth!
Imagine being mr girl, a few months ago you're doing debates, having interesting convos on a big platform and gaining an audience. Fast forward to now, you're being bullied in a leaked call by fucking Zherka
Zherka acc crushed this can’t lie🤣
Hotline was the boringest fucking show on TH-cam. Imagine listening to destiny talk with his tier4 subs except somehow even more boring. That was mrgirl hotline.
Bro put the barrel in the mouth of his streaming career and pulled the trigger. He had no where to go but up, but was like "nah let me go jump off this cliff".
@@chadmwilliams89 , exactly. Max never had the level to get on Lex's podcast, to begin with.
I'm glad it did not happen, as it would have been a stain on Lex's record.
Meanwhile, his conversation with Destiny was acceptable, and made for good content.
I don't think there's another example in the on-line political debate sphere of someone self destructing so quickly, with such intent, and irreversibly...
@@chadmwilliams89 lol what? He did great on no jumper.
Zherka memes and shit stirs all the time but even he takes his friendships more seriously than Mr Empathy over here. What a joke max has become
Always has been
he didn't flip a switch and become a different person, he was always this way and half you fuckers ate it up
Become? Implying there was a time when he wasn't a joke?
It's kind of crazy how well Zherka dismantles Mr.Girl. He is almost spot on with what Max is doing. Obviously he missed some of the nuances and memed a bit, but just plainly spiting in Mr.Girls face with straight facts is hilarious.
ZHerka understands people, that's it, he's very smart when it comes to this, he knows motivations and shit instantly.
Mr. Girl may be completely unhinged right now, but he has some valid criticisms about destiny. Destiny takes pot shots shitting on people he interacts with all the time, like how he did to train wrecks. Would shit talk trainwrecks all the time on stream, then go on trains podcast and acted way more reserved. He definitely shits on people in his life all the time.
@@grantwerner7332 Mr.Girl always was and always will be unhinged get that through your head. Destiny is certainly not the best guy and kind of an asshole. He would admit that much, but everyone already knows that.
@@grantwerner7332 nobody watches Destiny because he's a nice guy, people like it when he goes unhinged and shits on people it's funny af, if you want to watch a streamer that never takes shots at people watch someone like sykkunno. Nothing wrong with that btw sykkunno funny too. Also, the criticism isn't valid at all, Destiny will admit he's an asshole, but MR. Girl just wanted special treatment which he had already been receiving but it wasn't enough for him. He's just a narcissist.
@@grantwerner7332 it's a fucking debate channel if you can't handle no one treating you nice and sweet then don't be in the debate sphere
Zherka's mockery and dismantling of the 'girl' was epicly hilarious.
Common Zherk W
This is rare proof that there are some surgeries best performed with a sledgehammer
Lol Zherka is what people mistakenly think narcicism is like because of his trolling and ego, but rwal narcicism is a lot more like Mr.Girl where the person has these delusions of grandeur, victimization, and self destruction.
I love when Zherka says he was Destiny's "biggest enemy"
he means largest
Zherka's theatrics are so insufferable but it's hilarious
He platformed Infrared and Hinkle for a year so kinda
A year meaning a while, idk exactly how long and wasn’t watching anyone when they got banned. Idk if it was up until the ban(s) (is infrared banned?) or what
It's like the goofy anime antagonist who declares the hero is his nemesis but is never actually a serious threat lol
Imagine going to Zherka for legit information. If you go to Jon for info on horses he’s going to give you a dissertation on spider monkeys while telling you he’s definitely giving you info on horses the entire time.
underrated
Based Jon
chaotic neutral🤣
Zherka is unironically a master of rhetoric. I never knew he had it in him. Max was only correct in one assertion, Zherka does pretend to be stupid.
Zherka was trolling but he managed to hold Max’s feet to the fire more than those five orbiters did questioning him
To defeat an angel you need to drag him to hell . They are trying to fight in heaven while they are just angels fighting an archangel but zerka is satan himself
@@DirtyRat bro what
@@gamblorrr most sane destiny fan
@@DirtyRat ok, just to give this guy a break, I think I understand what he's trying to say. He's saying Max is an archangel, even though Lucifer is the only archangel that turned against God (destiny, lol cringe), and the other orbiters are other angels. The only way to really defeat the archangel is to drag him to hell where Satan (Zerhka) will fuck his shit up.
Now that that's explained, yes most sane Destiny fan was correct. What a horrible analogy.
He's not trolling though. Look at someones actions not their words. It seems right from the start that he intended to hold his feet to the fire, but if he's not trolling like Zherka classically would, it would be too sus.
The biggest dirt Mr Girl can have on Destiny, and what Zherka should have also given him is that Destiny is indeed a girl’s name
I have good news for you my friend. The Daliband has returned your wife and child to you for meeting your destiny girls name quota. Congratulations the terrorism ends here.
😅😅 that would’ve been hilarious
hottest girl in high school was named destiny- *true story*
Man if only Mr. Girl read the youtube comment section, he would've had this dirt already!
@@Zalenmoto he's to smrt for that
Contrast this interaction with zherka vs mrgirls interaction with his orbiters that were questioning him and you can see that when he’s facing someone he can’t intimidate or control he tends to be humble and answer questions… he did not once bring up “that’s a questatement” or “ she’s my daughter “ bullshit
As Zherka put it, he's a smart pedo. He picks his fights.
I can only imagine how Zherka would have responded to Mr. Girl claiming Lav as his daughter like he did in that other convo.
Imagine being intimidated by Max. You’d have to be ultra pathetic.
@@MrAdamloring1985 yeah wait till he shows his face in your bedroom window
Zherka is the Joker in the DGG universe frfr 💀
LMAO accurate
No cap on a stack??
He do be bussin frfr
Max is the hamburglar to zherkas joker
That’s factual no captual
watching an hour of based zherka is so refreshing
You're talking about 100% of the time, when he's not currently on coke
Somehow Zherka did a better job interrogating mrgirl than those other 3 idiots did the other day combined, & he did it without even trying lol
Hope you see this smeth
"Your honor, he allowed his moderator to ban me from his subreddit. I am a fully employed orbiter and have rights, this is unacceptable and abusive."
i never thought zherka could be more wise than 99% of these other idiots.
He fully knows the game, and knows everyone is playing it.
I'm not familiar with Zherka but this made me respect him. He's a real one. At least in this situation.
@@TheTGOAC He's a guy who blends real quality advice with hardcore trolling to the point where most people can't tell when he's trolling and being serious. The dude's got heart and a good head on his shoulders. But he's mastered all the conspiracy debates like flat earth.
Zherka has successfully investigated his investigation and has come up away with a good bit of content for us all to be entertained by
The sad part about this conversation Zherka had with Max is Max never brings up Shaelin as a reason why he wouldn't marry Lav or have sex with her. Nor did he ever mention that he is in a relationship.
Yeah, I noticed that too, haha. I wonder if it's because he thinks that she's "controlling" him if he choses not to have sex with someone because of their relationship. Like he has to not actually feel physical attraction to anyone else in order to be "free".
well she is a literal demon, or so I'm told.
So glad someone else commented on this.
This ^
Gotta say, going out of your way to include all the little bits of context one could've missed/not had while watching the streams is incredibly useful for Destiny lore transcription.
Exactly. Nice and concentrated too
MrGirl actually kind of scares me. At first it was just cringy and creepy "you destroyed our friendship" stuff with people he never met in real life, he was almost holding "friendship" over peoples heads like a sword. I had no idea he adopted Lav, I had no idea he is an admitted and open r@p1st. He is perfect for a cult following.
I almost cringed into another dimension the other day with the "Would you like me to read you a list of why I'm perfect to investigate Destiny? I had my girlfriend write it for me" and it was unironically just a list of narcissistic traits😳🤮
I think he has a VERY troubling personality. I don't wanf to be brash but he seems like he may have hurt small animals as a kid. Faux empathy, well versed in tricks of humanity and the hubris of a dictator.
@@skraminc Unironically everyone who isn’t immediately creeped out by Max should be heavily investigated.
@@skraminc the word is 'rash' not 'brash'.
If you had no idea he’s a r4pist then you never watched a mr girl video lol
@@skraminc don't feel too bad. He sucks and deserves a good rib kicking.
"I think you picked a whole field of oopsie daisies" is the comment of the year holy shit
I love Zherka running over mrgirls comments. Unironically, mrgirl needs to be told to shut the fck up more in his life.
Zherka is very effective against max because max thrives when people are trying to read into things during interactions while he muddies everything, while Zherka doesnt read besides bionicle, sonic literature and dragonball GIGACHAD
edit: he says masonic literature, but zherka reading sonic literature is one fake news i'm willing to spread
True
Zherka is the pigeon that shits on the chess table to distract you from the fact he got you into checkmate
LMAO Ok there's another comment on here that says he said "bionicle, Masonic Literature, and Dragonball." No I wonder if he said masonic or my sonic. Lmao that's such a funny mixup
Max's silly mind games dont work on a redpilled alpha like Zherka
he's implying to zherka that there's these curves to be drawn but zherka just draws a straight line and connects all the dots and max can't really argue with it. i think max has a hard time selling bullshit to people who only examine his actions and not his justifications.
@@grantmoe9535 oh ya?
Mind-games can only be used on people who have them jajajaja
@@end2end302 Useless comment of the day.
@@123sleepygamer okay gaymer
This whole convo basically just shows that Zherka is a full on chaotic evil persona who loves to troll, but he’s far from an idiot. Dude basically point blank called out Mr. Girl on every point of hypocrisy with no filter or meandering charitability nonsense.
Zherka is hilarious 😂 😭 😂 The orbiters that "questioned" Max about his fraudulent "investigation" should be ashamed that Zherka did a better job questioning and revealing some of Max's real motives. Good job Zherka 😂 I never thought I would say that
My favorite thing about zherka is just how sensible and reasonable he is.
Based
Zherka always a god. The man we need against MrGirl. Mans a tank, he cant be brainwashed or gaslight.
I don't know if its because Zherka is very effective in his conversations or if its because Max is a very shitty interviewer but at no point in this "interview" was Max in control. Not only did Zherka completely brush off any questions Max asked but Max was answering every question Zherka asked and was being confronted with any incongruences in his story. This is an absolute gold mine and should be a very eye opening experience for anyone who still thinks this investigation will lead to anything substantial.
I genuinely believe Max thought he could flip zherk with the passive aggressive "don't even read the article if you're not even going to give me a chance". It's clearly a reverse psychology game he's trying to pull and failing to do so.
There's nothing to be gained from cutting Zherk off since Max wants to get him to say things that aren't charitable to Destiny. Remember that little line about online debate streamers being all about dogpiling? You could hear the momentary life returning to the feeble boy for just a moment. He's after tiny cuts like that and thinks not going postal will coax Zherk into it.
Zherka can be insufferable but he can be the chaotic neutral to tip the scales
He can come in clutch in specific situations.
he’s the ultimate joker card
why do people hate zherka so much? is he just because he's tall and good looking
Because dgg hates commies but Zherka platformed unironic Stalinists for content. Zherka’s a fantastic entertainer and shouldn’t be cancelled tho.
@@Jubanuba because he’s a moron
Zerkha's main part about Lav is exactly what I thought when I first heard that mr girl was going rogue. I thought he was just mad that he found out destiny and Lav hooked up and got uncontrollably jealous, hence the crusade. Which is why he doesnt know what he's looking for in his vendetta, like Zerkha was saying cos he's just grasping at straws to find some pattern of abuse. Instead of just feeling like orbiters dont get enough respect, which doesn't really track. After thinking about it, actually its probably both of those feelings that pushed him over the edge, especially if he has narcissistic tendancies he probably felt like they were both personal sleights, so when people call him on the Lav thing he can pivot to destiny's an abuser and still be authentic to himself.
“You’re trying to be Goku when really, you’re just Krillin”
😂😂😂
💀
Interesting how he's so submissive when talking to someone he knows won't put up with his BS. Usually Mr.Girl talks over people and is rather aggressive, not now though...not when he's faced with someone that won't put up with his BS like I said....lol
Exactly. He’s a bully who never had to deal with a bigger bully.
Also not one attempt at mind readinh or accusing of debate/optics tactics here.
probably helps that this wasn’t live or a public showing or anything. Mrgirl likes to play up his persona when he knows people are watching. Not surprising from a narcissist.
Because Zherka, from the little ive seen, is mostly just a normal dude. Hes not a self deluded debate nerd trying to debate his way to what he wants.
He also has to play the role of stoic, virtuous (and traumatized) cop instead of brash troll, bc that’s the narrative he’s spinning here. I think mr girl would talk over Zherka and stuff if it were a different situation because he thinks the things he says are brilliant, but now he knows he had to appear to treat the situation with gravity. Although I’ve never seen a convo between two potential narcissists (don’t know if either is one bc both are mediated via an inherently narcissistic medium, plus I’m only an armchair psychologist Tuesday evenings for extra cash)
"I'm conducting an investigation"
This literally means "I decided Destiny is a sex abuser and I'm going to fish forever and hunt down his partners and try to manipulate an agreement out of them and use them to hurt him, because he banned me from his subreddit, and I'm literally the perfect person to do this"
I really enjoyed this to the point that this is the 3rd version I've heard so far, because Max is usually arguing in the clouds, floating through conversations with people trying to speak at that level, but Zherka just drags this guy to the ground and makes him try to answer the simplest questions causing Max to finally squirm. I mean I don't think Max is obsessed with Lav really, but Z just attacking the most basic angles while bulldozing all of Max's obfuscations is hilarious
"adopting" a girl half his age and pretending to be her Dad, definitely not obsessed 😂☠️😂☠️
@@xp7575 that's fair, I mean sexually though. I don't think he's simping to get in her pants, I think he likes using her. But who knows he's a mad man
This was like watching the early Trump debates and trying to understand how he was winning.
I was dying when he wouldn't let Max slip out of that "Cuties" question. I suspect that Zherka had already heard the original video but Max tried to wiggle outta that question by paraphrasing his comments. Which is funny because this is the 1st time I have seen Max try to slip that question. Usually, he just admits that he referred to the girls as being "hot" and moves on.
One thing that I am really curious about is the truth about Max's mom. I saw some video where he claimed that his mom told him that she was sexually attracted to him or that she wanted to have sex with him or something. On the one hand, that kind of trauma would help explain quite a bit. On the other hand, it sounds like an insane thing for a parent to admit to their child. Pretty sure he is also estranged from the rest of his family over some petty nonsense too.
@@xp7575 The sad thing is, it would actually be way less cringe if he really were obsessed with her.
The truth is he doesn't even particularly like Lav, he just makes a big theatric display of caring about her now because she's a useful pawn for him to use against Steven.
Zherka is the ultimate hard counter to MrGirl it's hilarious
If Mr. Girl had super powers he would 100% be a Homelander.
32:25
Chat being triggered for almost a full minute about not seeing the cat was actually the funniest thing in this video
Zherka - "You're trying to be Goku but instead you are Krillin." 💣💣💣💣
He is not even krillin...at least krillin had the makings of a good family man/friend and got a strong indepedent woman to be with lol. In fact i don't think he has a dbz equivalent lol, even the baddies have more honour there.
@@trololkhil9868 He's Raditz
@@YourPrivateNightmare i dunno at least radditz was just looking for a challenge...a saibaman maybe? green mean looking toxic plant that blows itself up and takes you with it haha.
@@YourPrivateNightmare i think he only used krillin because krillin secretly did stuff out of horniness. Zherka is convinced that mrgirl is only doing this to get with lav
@@trololkhil9868 exactly put some respect on Krillin, the strongest human
Hearing Zerka outmaneuver him through this convo is not actually that surprising - which says a lot about Mr Girl. Dude is a clown
I know Destiny says Mr. Girl isn’t doing this out of spite, but it really feels like a “if I can’t be a part of your community then you can’t either!” situation. Plus he flip flops between Destiny been a coworker and friend. He says you should give people you work with an ultimatum, but at the same time considered him a friend. You would never give a friend that kind of ultimatum, especially about something as unimportant as a subreddit.
yeah honestly feels like spite and like zherka said i think mr. girl has some weird kind of sexual interest in lav none of these arguments happened(in public) til lav showed up and the way they interact just feels strange
@@dread3165 mr girl doesn't have sexual interest in lav; he has a sexual interest in destiny. mr girl is power sexual.
Zherka is like kryptonite to Max, it's unbelievable. I honestly am so surprised because Zherka would sometimes get on my nerves. Max is so accustomed to outmaneuvering everyone through psychological games and word plays but Zherka is just laughing in his face. Max can't outsmart him because Zherka isn't playing his game. It's shocking.
Jon does an amazing job not being pushed around here I am more than impressive I've never had much of an opinion of Jon before as able to have these convos but this has changed now 5 minutes in wow.
Edit ok wow I might start watching Jon's vids I'm smitten now
Edit2: I hate to say it mrgirl said it best "I hate that you pretend to be stupid"
Zherka is a troll, but he's shown many times before he's smarter than he often lets on.
Even as Mr girl calls destiny a rapist destiny's dumbass still gives him way too much charitability. Saying things like "Mr girl actually believes what he's saying" and "he doesn't like lav as more than a friend" or that "he's not trying to hurt me or damage me" is dumb. That's exactly what he's trying to do. He's pissed that you cut him off and he's trying to find a way to get even with you anyway.
Fo sho, D can't read MG at all
I get tired of Zherka really fast when he's bullshitting on panels but when he's in the zone he has the potential to be one of the most based streamers. He's over here living out Sneako's truth through funny fantasy
Sometimes you just gotta fight fire with fire. mrgirl takes himself way too seriously so the best way to deal with him is to just troll the shit out of him
Mr girl sometimes sees himself as a troll but now hes wearing the cop hero hat so he has to be stoic and virtuous. Same reason he was so uncomfortable and distanced himself from the cuties topic, where he used to be brash with his opinion and controversial on purpose (and that’s what created his career besides destiny).
@@sams7068 Isn't his whole thing suppose to be about speaking honestly? No bullshit filters, say how you really feel regardless if it's uncomfortable or not? I know he's full of shit regardless but I'm pretty sure that's the image he wants to present of himself so I don't know why from his perspective he would devolve into trolling
There's something about Zherka's laugh that is just completely contagious. Every time Max says something to him and Zherka just laughs I couldn't help but start laughing too.
I'm also going to point out that at 39:00 when Jon says "So if she threw you some ass you wouldn't take it?" Mr. Girl dodges the question and just responds "we have a completely platonic relationship."
Just my opinion. But I think that you can triangulate an intersection between three points of reference
1) That Max calls Lav his daughter
2) That Max sexualizes children that would be the age of his daughter if he had one
3) That Max only started getting mad when he found out Steven fucked Lav
Hahahaha he dodges the same question again at 59:00
Finally! We found a position of value for Zherka:
Annoying the shit out of orbiters that are even more annoying than he is.
Zherka has always been hilarious
Zherka is annoying in a funny way, lav and mrgirl aren't.
ZHERKA is like if Dan was actually funny
I don’t think he’s annoying
@@vinny5638 LMAOOO this comment is so funny but true
Zherka stonks to the moon! This was hilarious.
I’m waiting for a call where the person pretends to be persuaded by max over the course of the call and they say at the end “you know there is one thing he has done to me a lot… he tells me that destiny is a boys name”
I heard he never gives enough tea...
I will never understand why Destiny and half of his community seem to have hate for Zherka. He's actually hilarious and can't be intimidated or gaslit like so many others that MrGaslight has come after. The man has a mental resilience so many others lack online. I unironically have a lot of respect for him as a fellow memer. My 4 Orbiters of the DGG apocalypse are Erudite, Zherka, Aba, and Dan.
You’re asking why a bunch of nerds don’t like 6”5 chad lol
Some people can't get over his views but I think he's really funny. And this sounds kind of crazy, but I like to imagine Zherka is some cossack commander that was pulled from that time period, sent to Miami and put in front of a computer in this time period. He just doesn't give a shit and it's too funny especially here encountering the ultimate sensitive empath lefty type. I watched the flat earth debate because of this interview and that was funny as hell too
Zherka is the kindof guy that you just can't have a cohesive conversation with. The fact that he's funny and doesn't care is a double edged sword. Every conversation has him firmly planted and unmoving on his postions while he finds a creative and funny way to call you a degenerate for disagreeing which is great content but really grating/exhausting after a while. He seems like one of those people who are incapable of having serious conversations.
@@kylesizemore2751 damn he's literally me. No wonder I love him.
@@ivansmirnoff6987 mr girl said that once
"It's an investigation, I want dirt."
Not even a pretense of wanting "truth".
I think "dirt" implies that it's true. You wouldn't honestly call it "digging up dirt" when you're making shit up
@@benjoleo but i think zherka's implying that what he's doing is no different than any other streamer digging shit on others for petty drama, not some moral crusade like he pretends like it is.
It’s because Max is so narcissistic that he already knows it’s the truth. He knows the truth, he just needs the “dirt” that proves it.
@@benjoleo I think the implication of “dirt” is _anything_ that could harm their reputation. Like if you dig up dirt on a politician, it could be dirt on their marriage, their finances, anything in their life.
@@grantmoe9535 sure, my disagreement is just with matt's comment implying that looking for dirt means one isn't looking for the truth.
I'm not making any claim about Mr Girl
This was like watching old episodes of Columbo. For all you youngens out there, Columbo was a TV show and the main character used to trip people up by playing dumb and then leading them into traps.
Double edged sword with Zherka, but he isn't gonna allow much room for nuance. And Max has a really hard time operating in a conversation where he has to face questions that can't really be answered with nuance.
'Oh, but one more thing...'
I cannot understand why nobody is calling out the fact max was in love with DESTINY. Watch their one on one streams and max’s goo-goo eyes throughout. This drama is fuelled by lust, but not for lav. He’s using lav as a weapon against destiny because he’s crushed destiny had the sexual connection with someone other than him
Zherka's the dude who says "GG" after command grabbing you 6 times in a row.
😂😂
Mr.Girl acting like he wouldn't get command grabbed 6 times in a row smh. GGs get wiggity wiggity washed Mr.Girl
@@shman5000o shout-outs to Smug
This is when you go into a situation expecting "the enemy of my enemy is a friend" and leave with a pie in the face.
I honestly don't think Zherka is as stupid as people make him out to be. He absolutely dominated Mr.Girl here.
I love Zerka comin in with the Naruto references. It pisses everyone off but its perfect comedic relief while staying on topic
i fuckin love zherka so much
It's crazy that Max stays in the call from 30 minutes onward
Zherka is spot on the lav thing mr girl is broken that destiny hooked up with her, and respect for him for defending destiny on principle not the hatred of mr girl
Zherka is a loose cannon, you have no idea what he will come out with memes, insults or bizzare rant. But then he hits you with searing insight on what you just said and it blindsides.
I still think the Dr. K saga was basically Max wanting to take out an adversary that made Max feel inadequate cuz he never went further with his Psychology career. Many people said it wasn't personal but IMO it was clear how personal it was for Max who built his entire identity around being empathic.
I thought the same thing... up until Destiny, MrGirl went after Dr K, Brittany Simon, and NotSoEuridite. All streamers with Call in shows - his competition basically.
I knew there would be someone who would be able to call Max out properly on his bullshit lol. I was thinking maybe a lawyer - someone who can take someone's answer and rip it apart in a way they didn't expect...turned out to be Zherka. Gosh
The way he didn't let him interrupt him either was so unbelievably satisfying. Redeemed all of Destiny's prior allowances there
@@shirinatron it's because MrGirl's tactics only work on those who are primarily blue in nature. He bros down with those who are primarily yellow. But Zherka is pure red with a bit of yellow, which is why none of his tactics work on Zherka. I'm speaking of the alchemical symbolism, of course.
Jesus, even while trolling his ass off, Zherka ducking demolished Mr. gaslight here, unironically gained a ton of respect for his intellect here.
Lol Zherka rules. Hes so good at whatever he is doing here.
got to admit a hate Zerka but he destroyed him so good
“A whole field of oopsie daisies” is kinda brilliant.
49:19 zherka makes a point that I think everyone agrees is the issue. Max is CHOOSING to be antithetical to the entire debate stream sphere and is so upset he’s reaping the blow back of it. If you get up on a stage; and people don’t like it, you get booed and ridiculed. He came to participate in the club and the moment Steven stops vouching for him he wants to nuke the whole game board. Big take your ball and go home energy.
Crazy how just a few months ago the chat was running defence for MG and now they pretend as if they don't even know him, it happens, chats are always npcs waiting for the new DLC
Imagine Zherka being your last best hope for vengeance against Destiny and having to put yourself through this call for nothing.......yikes
That was comedy gold. Best interview in the recent weeks.
This is gold. Why is this hidden on this channel and not on the main one.
Cause it happened very recently
Zherka said what I thought the whole time - mrgirl's doing it to try to keep Lav from Destiny so he can isolate Lav, because she gave him flirty attention when she first met him and he fell for her. He's an insane Lav simp.
Honestly Zherka and MrGirl is just the meeting of the minds we needed this arc. Perfection
Zherka harping on Maxs infatuation toward Lav was really gold. Amazin
That's love from zerka man he really held this down well. Ballzy good stuff
The declaring war part is what got him banned lol
Looking back from January 2025, this was peak Destiny. The political arc and obsession with trump is just unwatchable at this point. I miss the Ana and Mr Girl era
Mr.girl when his fanboys mention lav during questioning: DONT YOU TALK ABOUT MY DAUGHTER
mr.girl to zherka: master zherka, i wont show you any aggression
Destiny ALMOST has it. Max isn't delusional. Max is hardcore framing the narrative in a way to paint Steven as an abuser in whatever way possible. He's already said people are too afraid to confront him about abuse so he HAS to find something to fit that narrative. Him messaging someone and them not responding works in favor of that narrative to PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC. It's all about building this narrative to prove his point, not because he actually believes it. He's in full control and is desperately trying to find whatever he can to make Steven look as bad as possible.
Zherka is like Wato from Phantom Menace. "Your mind tricks don't work on me, Jedi."
He's like a Green Hexproof monster in magic the gathering that isn't affected by Blue Sorcery and Instant spells. Dude's a straight berserker unaffected by the trickster mage. Are my nerd references making any sense? lol
I got the Phantom Menace one, but I haven't played Magic since I was in school.
@@Stop_Gooning Nice, I haven't played since college so I feel you. Blue has always been about manipulation and negating spells rather than summoning monsters and buffing them up right?
@@TheTGOAC Magic the gathering's color system is based off of the alchemical symbolism of the colors. Which is actually something Zherka knows, so I'm sure he'd understand regardless of whether he played magic or not
Zherka is cutting to the bone. Max is got so deflated after Jon pointed out what Destiny did for him in the past year. It is actually painful to listen to, but Max kind of deserves it as he planted the seeds, now he's reaping the rewards...
no, your wrong, he isn't cutting Max at all, Max is a REAL narcissist, one who has fully Double-Think'd himself into believing many conflicting things to keep his internal image in check, they are quite literally incapable of being confronted with damning shit like that, they can even admit its true, but will act like the entire conversation never occured in a few minutes/days.
@@keithfilibeck2390 before this talk I’d totally be with you. I think this talk might’ve actually got to him. I could be wrong, and he likely will still post the article, but I got a sense he might’ve “came to Jesus” because of Zherka. His tone is so different from the start compared to the end
@@shiitalkiemushrooms4487 like I said, people like that reset like robots, you cannot meaninfully interact with the real them, there is an idea of Max, an abstraction, but he simply isn't there.
@@keithfilibeck2390 could be. Could also just be blinded by rage, could be he fought destiny thinking he could use him to be his stepping stone to new heights as a “hero” of some sort, could be he actually is super into lav and doing what he thinks will get her. Motive is hard to hammer down, but objectively, max lost here and will likely never recover. No sense in beating him up tho, he’ll get his due after the dog pile of the century once he does release this dumb article lmao. I’m not one to agree with destiny automatically that he’s a pure narcissist. I think people ebb and flow through these states and it’s a perfect storm. He does have a pretty extensive narcissistic arc tho for sure
@@shiitalkiemushrooms4487 totally agree, it fumed with Mrgirls head
Jon has become Tournament of Power Freeza and I'm here for it.
Listening to this as someone who's barely followed the DGG verse was still gold haha. I have no idea who Zherka is but he seems hard case. Using halo and DBZ as analogies when Max is being all serious 😆. Idk the past with Zherka but listening to him just shows how solid Destiny comes across if someone can talk highly of him when they're considered to be a bit of an enemy of his community. Anyways, this was a good listen. Nice to hear people with differing opinions speak highly of someone who they disagree with on many issues. That's how I wish the world be more like
Keep dreaming.
@@BURRDAWG_ ikr 😔
To think Zherka was the one to defeat MrGirl. It makes so much sense though. Max would never be able to handle someone like him.
Damn I wish mrgirl would've said the "lav is my daughter" creepy shit. Zherka would've flipped out.
Zherka is the counterpick to empath build
I know this is a joke but my take is you’re always an empath if you only let people close to you if they defer to you. Like legitimately I think Mr Girl believes he’s an empath for that reason, he seems to very easily ends relationships and is left with the only people he can really appear to empathize with, those who almost always agree with him. The videos he posted with Shaelin where they disagreed show how little he can really empathize (if this man isn’t an ARG, which I’m still not convinced of having seen only a few of his online appearances).
he is just pretending to be an empath
Love how mrgirl pretends to not know what the question is asking when he can’t answer
Zherka is unironically the best character in the DGG canon, I've been saying it for awhile, despite the shit talking and memes this guy is way smarter than he often comes off, this conversation is the best proof of that so far.
Finally someone asking the straightforward questions
This conversation shows how much control MrGirl really has on his emotions when he needs to.