The Secret Reason We See Cameras in IVE ‘After Like’' | MV Editor Reaction
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My idea on why they opted to show the cameras behind the scenes is that in order to progress to the love stage, you must also see what's behind the person you like.
damm jisoo you're smarter than you look
genius
@@K8319M whats that supposed to mean? 🤨
oh wowww
@@cartmansfatass23 lmao why get so offended
Fun Joke: The reason why the beginning of this song is short is because there is a lyrics “3 seconds is enough” in LOVE DIVE, I heard of it from somewhere which I can’t rmb but that’s ✨CHEF’S KISS✨
bffr
@fromis_8 ikr this comment doesn’t make sense
@fromis_8 It says "Joke" 💀💀💀☠☠☠☠
you thought you ate huh
@fromis_8 It doesnt say anything in my screen? İf it says edited then the person who writed this corrected what they writed wrong
It could've been great if they did "After Like" before "Love Dive" It would have been a great transition from Like to Love
true, it could have had a better storyline if afterlike was released first.
Nah, the lyrics for love dive are literally about getting to know someone, the instant attraction between two people and how you need to take the risk and ‘love dive’ aka try to find love with them, whereas after like is saying, okay we like each other, this is more than it was, so now, is this love?
Ig but honestly, idk. My theory is that both Love Dive and Eleven (Although extremely low key) are about the story of the Greek God 'Narcissus' (Like, hold your breath love dive. Them say that then there being lots of references to water and mirrors. So basically falling in love with yourself) but seeing this, I'm confused.
Maybe we're gonna find out more but for now, just based on this and Love Dive, I think we're focusing on Cupid ig? Not sure at all so please take this with a grain of salt
Edit: I just watched the M/V again and my theory for the cameras and spotlights over them would be that they think they are the center of attention, everyone should focus on only them, they're the best etc. This could be my theory for the cameras and the spotlight. It shows how eye-catching they are that the cameras and spotlights should only be on them (again, take this with a grain of salt).
Edit 2: Okay, it finally clicked in my head. The scene where Yujin has hearts surrounding her is from Madonna's 'Material Girl'. Search up what it is about and it just makes so much more sense.
I also saw a comment (Forms of Therapy reacting to After Like) where they also talked about AL being inspired by 'Diamonds are a girl's best friend'. I looked it up and wow, it just gets even more interesting
I read somewhere that "After Like" was supposed to be released before "Love Dive", but it took much longer time to clear the copyright for the "I Will Survive" sample than expected, so the order got switched. Don't know if that's true, but kinda make sense.
@@sameerakhan7455 did you realize that in the rap Rei says smth like “an I in between o and v”? It’s supposed to say LO”IVE”, so a lot of dives theorized that maybe it still means that they’re narcissistic? Their bsides are narcissistic as hell tho(would say more confident than narcissistic, but since it fits the theory)
The digging you do is always so cool, because most people usually just uses kpop reactions as a stage to gain fame but you are one of those reactionist that LITERALLY takes a dive before you make a video and I think that's why your video took a bit longer yet are highly anticipated. You breakdown and notice stuffs even I don't notice, so yeah, you're a great person!
Agreed!
Yeahh, totally agreed!
He's not a "reactionist", he's an analyst. He's using professional knowledge to point out interesting details of the MV and its production. That's much better than someone making funny faces and saying, "OMG that was cool!"
It is reality that he did this to gain fame. Nothing's wrong with it. What make him respected and loved is because his effort in creating the content AND share his professional knowledge with us. We can see that he love what he do.
I recommend this channel to everyone 🥰
yes he really takes a dIVE haha
I was just enjoying their latest comeback but now I learned how is it conceptualized like that and also technical terms like color bars, lens distortion, lens flare, vfs trackers, and more. thank you jordan as always! always taking notes of video editing terms and techniques while enjoying k-pop.
This is why I love these videos so much!
I love how he’s like “idk I’m not a cinematographer” and then proceeds to give us a whole freaking lesson on camerawork and shutter speeds and directing.
FACTS haha
What's the time of it
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Your theory makes complete sense!
In ‘ELEVEN’ they meet the character or the boy
In ‘LOVE DIVE’ they are curious about him and wants to know.. *They started liking him*
Now, in ‘After LIKE’ they are now asking him *“What’s after LIKE?”*
WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH NEARLY 500 LIKES?
they're really about to finish their storyline in less than a year of debut LOL
@@theunoriginaldude8345 that's also true even tho ive are my ults i would love to know the theory but the way they are presenting is... confusing
@@theunoriginaldude8345 The first 3 title tracks released by Gfriend were labelled "the school trilogy" and after that they started trying different things. Dreamcatcher also has sets of songs that are supposed to go together which get cut off at a certain point when they switch to something different (i.e. when they released What they said it was the beginning of a new storyline). So it makes sense for IVE to do 3 (or 4?) title tracks that tell one story and then start something new.
@@MarkDeSade100 That makes sense! I actually researched about their theories and I got only one theory of ‘LOVE DIVE’ which connects with Greek mythology ----
_The concept was based on the origin of “narcissism,” the Greek God Narcissus. There are many versions of the tale of Narcissus. The ending of his story, however, is agreed upon unanimously. Narcissus dies by drowning. He fell into a pond after being so entranced by his reflection. The album cover art for the single spells out the word ‘LOVE DIVE.’ If you look at the colors, the words can be read as “LOVED IVE” instead. It can be inferred that the song meant to convey the meaning that IVE was “diving into love” with themselves. Even the album’s photobook was mirrored between the two halves. The reason for IVE’s concept teasers being based on Cupid? Legend has it that Narcissus fell in love with his reflection because Cupid had struck Narcissus with his arrow. A clever fan even came up with a theory about the adlibs in the song. “LOVE DIVE” features a pre-chorus with the catchy adlib of _*_“ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.”_*_ The fan thought this to refer to the legend of Echo and Narcissus._
*_“In Greek Mythology, a fairy called Echo was cursed by Hera. Echo was forced to copy other people’s words. Echo fell for Narcissus. But Narcissus was in love with himself and did not accept Echo’s feelings. Ultimately, he died while yearning for his reflection as reflected in the water, but Echo remained by his side until the end, loving him. Of course, Echo was angry at Narcissus for rejecting her and asked Nemesis to punish him, but I really think we can interpret the “ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh” as Echo’s voice if they really have been using the Greek legend of Narcissus. I might be a little too into it, but I think this sort of analysis is fun.” - Fan_*
_The concept seemed to have been planned right from the start. IVE’s debut song, ‘ELEVEN,’ subtly makes references to Narcissus’s legend._
_The last line of ‘ELEVEN’ can be interpreted using the legend._
*“You who is in front of me, and me who is reflected in those eyes [whom] I’ve come to love”*
_Even the verse sung by Yujin after the first chorus seems to allude to Narcissus looking into the pond._
*“The transparence between you and me, when I stay still and look at it, I fall deeper into the wavering waves.”*
(SOURCE: Koreaboo)
Well this makes sense but the theory is only for ‘LOVE DIVE’
I think it's started this way:
1. They wanted to make an epic ending of an MV with frickin massive fireworks.
2. The problem is, fireworks cost a lot of money. 😂 So they only had 1 frickin chance to take a shot fr fr.
3. And since they're using a massive amount of fireworks, they need to find a way to shot that only moment with different angles.
4. Fireworks need a really wide shot to capture them all in. But then they also need a close-up shot for the sake of the members visual.
5. To achieve that, they can't find any way but to use wide angle and close up camera at the same time. As the result, the close up camera is captured in the wide angle camera frame.
6. "Now how about let's just use that as a behind the scene concept in every shot so the audience won't notice." Lmao idk what's wrong with my mind. 🤣
ooooh galaxy brain moment!! i like your idea a lot
nah this is so true😂
Honestly this is where my logic is too, like if you're needing visible cameras in one scene, why not make it intentional for all of them
IVE SLAYED THIS ONE IDC
yes
The reason for the behind-the-scenes theme is because you're diving into IVE's world and watching the MV in person. That's why the intro and outro feel like you dove in and out of your new color TV, which became standard in household homes in the 70s around the release of "I will survive." There's a complete lore breakdown by a channel called Doyouram. All three IVE MVs are interconnected and were planned from their "Have What We Want" pre-debut preview trailer. The theme is narcissus and RGB add-it-IVE colors.
I never thought about the reasons behind the choice of showing the cameras in the music video, I just thought they did this to make something different and because it looked cool. But now I wonder why I haven't questioned this more. Actually I never really care about the meaning in kpop songs, so I didn't care this time either. Aligning the meaning of the song and the meaning of the artistic choices in the video when it is rather hidden is so great.
edit: unrelated but it's cool to know that After Like is actually sampling Supreme by Robbie Williams for the interpolation of I Will Survive!
He always points things out I would have never thought about, its really interresting. Appreciate the effort, keep going with the great content mate
Also, IVE's After Like and TWICE's Talk that Talk intro has that color bars that we see in television. Maybe K Pop girl groups right now are going for more nostalgic MV concepts.
actually the sample of I will survive and the concept of the mv are connected. as you can see, the mv starts with the color bars. each of the the girls' solo scenes represent one of the 6 colours from the rgb scheme (we see green, red, blue, yellow, cyan and bright pink). and when all of the girls are together the scene and the outfits are black and white, because this is what you get when you mix the main colours, right? the sample of I will survive also ties to this concept. the song came out when the coloured tv started to become more and more popular, and so everyone was switching from b&w to the coloured one. that's why we see all this colours in the music video 😊
oh :o
What's good about stanning IVE is that every member has something unique to offer. You can freely choose your bias bc u know they are all that good.
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Just like every kpop group? 💀
@@nahim2261 not every group is like that lol
@@nahim2261 a lot of kpop groups have 2 members they centre the group around and then add a lot of fillers with no distinct aesthetic
@@m20047 I love IVE but isn’t that kind of their thing. They built the group around wonyoung and yujin?
I loved your theory about the "incompleteness" of the mv
btw for anyone not knowing, each member’s color is the one the color calibration bar
I also feel like it could be the opposite, i think cameras being shown respresents them moving from like to love because when you're only in like, you'll hestiate to show the parts of you that aren't perfect but when you're in love, you open yourself up fully, allowing that other person to see everything, thus instead of just showing a perfect music video, they're showing you everything that goes into making that music video.
Smart
Great hypotheses
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I think "Like" is a perfect stage when you see a person in their greatest form and personality. And when moving into the next step "Love", their hidden aspects might be revealed, it may be less perfect and flourishing than expected. Once you accept those imperfections, your love will be fulfilled.
so well said!! i love this explanation sm
its really refreshing to finally watch someone that talks editing. and not just as a passing topic but an actual conversation that doesnt shy away with the jargons.
Well the last part of the song literally had no behind the scene cameras present, so once the said "love" is after "like" , they basically stopped showing cameras, so makes sense...
Great work and thanks for the insight Jordan 🙌
At the fire work display shot you can see camera.
@@kennethjung8199 didn't notice earlier. Thanks for the update 😊
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finally, you reacted After LIKE 🤩 and the Dance Therapy tho, jeez!!
Honestly I believe the theory is that we’re going through “like” but then as soon as we finish the “E after V” part we get a full explosion of a fully completed MV and nights a partial or behind the scenes cut
It’s crazy that I actually had the opposite idea as you! Instead of a work-in-progress to end result transition between like and love, I interpreted that the shots of the finished music video are kind of like the surface-level attraction one feels at the “like” stage, whereas seeing the behind the scenes after the music video has been appreciated really makes it so much deeper, and you get to appreciate your partner for all the good and bad parts, or colours, of them that combined to create the rainbow of a surface image, or the music video.
9:54 wait omg each individual scene has the official color for the member in the background so red for wonyoung, green for rei, cyan for liz, blue for gaeul and magenta for yujin but theres no scene for leeseo i think
Leeseo's scene is the yellow sunflower one! 1:23
@@CakeInMyPockets yea ur right somehow i didnt see it!
Also in the first chorus, each member's accessories (necklace, earrings etc) all match their official colours. It seems obvious but I just noticed that after watching the mv for like hundreds of times 💀
Leeseos yellow or orange
I am so proud of the IVE girls, seeing that in such a short time they are achieving so many victories and the attention of the world makes me continue to support them.
ive and their whole creative tream are insanely good it's crazy
Another theory could be that during the song they are in “like” and they are showing the cameras and the imperfections because it’s like a real relationship where you get to see all those imperfections… also the different colors could represent the different sides of them meaning you’ve seen all of me and I’ve seen all of you and we are still here so let’s take the next step after like…. 🤷🏾♂️ but that could be me just being deep lol
One more detail that I really liked in this MV, is the beginning of the MV starts with color bars and it has 6 colors: red, green, pink, light blue, dark blue, and yellow (also black and white) and each member represents a color from that color bars which is cool! Also in the choreo shot they were wearing white with accessories with the 6 different colors!
just to say the official names for those are red, green, magenta, cyan, blue, yellow
red green blue are the colours that make up your screen, and cyan, magenta, yellow are the complements to those colours and are used for some things like printing (you'll see the letters CYMK on ink packages sometimes which is cyan, yellow, magenta, black)
but yeah those are the pure light colours making up a pixel display and their opposites, so that's why they are what they are
STOP- NOT ThE MEME 😭 YOU’RE GOING TO MAKE ME THINK OF THAT EVERYTIME I SEE THAT SCENE NOW 😭😭😭
I love your theory about the MV! I honestly just thought the directors were extremely creative in their vision and chose to make a somewhat "meta" music video where the concept is an MV shooting itself, but you connecting it to the song and lyrics was genius!
I love your interpretation, Jordan. I waited for your reaction. I guess you liked the song because the dance therapy is a little bit longer. IVE SLAYED! IVE ATE IT!
One thing I was surprised he didn’t comment on was that the chorus dance isn’t shown in its entirety until the very last fireworks chorus. Before that you only see snippets of the choreo from afar before getting close up shots for a lot of the chorus, hiding the scene. At the end though in the “Love” part of the video, they dance almost the entire shot from a longer shot. At first I was really confused by this but I definitely think it was at least somewhat purposeful for the storytelling
The thing is....
I thought it was exactly the opposite. As you get rose colored glasses from when you are crushing on someone you are blind to the behind the scenes of how it was achieved -- and when you start loving and you know the behind the scenes, you get to see the person from the scene, not the product as the scene.
Congrats on 600k!!! Thanks for reacting and teaching us more about video editing!
My idea on why they chose to show the cameras was because of their theme which is narcissism if you could tell since their debut talked about making them feel like they're 11/10 but we really didnt know who they were talking about , but in the love dive era you can see that they were in acting like they were cupid and cupids personality is basically narcissitic , also in the love dive mv they were shooting arrows and in the after-like choreo they got hit by the arrows they shot , ("whats after-like" part) as we can see they each had a camera all for themselves. they started liking theirselves in the love dive era and starting to love themselves in the after-like
OMGGG congrats on 600k!!!! WOOT WOOT. Luv u Jordan
My initial read of the cameras read less behind the scenes, more reminiscent of live tv broadcast from music shows from the 70s-80s variety shows (to even now!) with separate studio sets vignetting the members. Tying also with the disco instrumental from the likes of shows of Dancin’ on air or Soul Train. In these live shows, you see multiple unavoidable camera operations, distinctive features of broadcasting but it’s interesting to see it as a stylistic choice in a recorded and edited production.
great video!! also wanted to mention that all of the girls are representing a specific color, and all of these colors are actualy the ones in the first shot of "tv screen"!
In order to love someone you have to know what they're like behind the scenes
This is so well thought out and dissected. Good job for being able to notice all the little details and meanings of the mv, and explain it to us
IVE never been so fast for this mv reaction! Been waiting for this
I was waiting for this!! Love how you break down the music video, explaining all the little details, most of which I wouldn't even notice in the first place. Makes me appreciate the music video more! 😍
FINALLYYY, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THISSS
I lovee how you are noticing little details!
This was a really cool breakdown video, I never would have noticed any of these things😂 I like the part in Yujins first part in the beginning when the heart pop up beside her and you can clearly see the string holding them
I was waiting so long for this! Love you jordan! SLAYYY KINGG
Love watching your perspective like I can see the editor's pov it's so fresh
absolutely love your analysis on kpop music videos! they literally open a new thinking for me and make me appreciate the art more. also your knowledge on video editing is top tier and love how you spread it to us as well 🙌🏻
Jordan, I always appreciate just how much I learn about behind the scenes/editing tricks through your videos; and this is no exception!! I thoroughly enjoyed this video, and I love your theory about the MV as a whole😊 Keep up the amazing work!!
This was such a fascinating video! I wasn't sure what to make of the concept when watching, but your theory made so much sense and works well with the meaning of the music. Thanks for filming and sharing.
Also, this was the first time I noticed the fireworks are being set off on beat: pretty cool!
YESS I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR JORDAN TO MAKE THIS VIDEO FOREVER SINCE I KNEW HE WOULD MAKE A VIDEO EXPLAINING THE PRESENCE OF THE CAMERAS
This mv always gives me goosebumps, love this explanation video! Saw things I haven’t seen before because of it
i’ve been obssesed with IVE and then boom you did this!! you know what is so cool about your theory Jordan? the way you pointed out about their respective color that come together at the last part. How they started it with individual color, and then moving to full rainbow shot towards the ending. whats after like? its love!! I never think to much about the song and MV. i just know that it was cool, but your insight and comment totally change my mind and makes me appreciate the Music Video even more!! 💗👏🏻
I love how Jordan always tells his theories about song and break down what actually is happening in that MV. My favourite reactor for a reason. 💗👍
Finally! waited for this since I sent you an IG DM . Thanks Jordan!
Bro I love your reactions so much. They're so relatable and they always make me smile
You have made music videos so interesting for me. .. I used to watch without paying attention or noticing the details.. I love how you are so passionate about this and you do a great job in explaining the videos for me.. Thank you so much for your videos 💜
i always enjoy watching your videos because of the details you nerd out to (cuz same) AND our shared obsession with the storyline/theories. you always have the best reactions to ANYTHING. and dance therapy is just the most perfect ending
thank youu, I had much fun watching this!!!
i actually love the theory you did ! i actually was a little bit annoyed at the cameras at this mv because i didn't know what was the meaning behind it, or maybe they're just trying a new different style. and now after i watched this i understand more on why they have cameras in it! this actually connects to the ive lore :)
This Reaction is what I've been waiting for!!!!
I was touched when you talked about your work at the Fireworks store and now you're a successful editor!
Dope review I learnt so much! Rare to find a review with new insights ❤️
I've been waiting for your reaction😍👍
I appreciate your editing!!
You are the best Jordan!! Absolutely THE BEST!!!
I feel this music video can be understood more because of Jordan’s videos, like the bolt camera momentum is felt, as we all know how it would have worked within the scene :)
I’ve been waiting for thissss
Another thing I noticed- in the black scene and the down chorus, their outfits are white and their accessories are the colours of their individual shots! (Wonyoung has red accessories and that red scene with the giant bunny, Rei has the green scene and green accessories, Leeseo has the yellow sunflower scene and has yellow accessories etc.) Maybe that could also mean something ^^
im pretty sure they are the members' representative colours minus liz iirc
edit: nevermind, i thought liz's colour was purple but its cyan
@@cawewe Yeah! that is another thing-- ^^
@@cece0008 ive seen apparently it's meant to do with rgb values and stuff, and that's why when they are all together they're wearing white and black or something, i don't remember exactly
Wow Jordan, your new setup looks amazing 👏 😍.
Your best mv analysis yet
Loved your theory about the MV. Mindblowing actually XD
i never really thought about that but wow it makes me appreciate the mv more
I think the “broadcast” concept was just a way of tying together the colors concept. You pointed it out a little, but if you notice the members are CMY and RGB. If you look at their 3 album art colors, it’s RGB, which are the additive base colors for screen technology. I think they wanted to make their color concept a bit more obvious, which is why their teaser imagery and music video literally have color bars showing. Since color bars are used for broadcast, they decided to incorporate the BTS moments to give the video more of an obvious visual concept than simply using colors.
BEEN WAITING FOR AN AFTER LIKE REACTION
You earned a subscriber due to this analysis! Granted Iv watched your videos before and thought I already had subscribed.
To me, I think the camera is supposed to represent the person they like (while also just adding some cool visuals and etc to tie the stages together). The phrase "make love to the camera" kept coming to mind and how it would seem like they're flirting with the camera and the cameras are really engaged with them.
After like mv is amazinggg
Thank you Jordan for this 😭🤍
I really enjoyed ‘After Like’ by IVE, the song and MV are both great and I agree with the 'Behind The Scenes' theory...
hi Jordan! i kid u not but the moment i saw the mv, u were the first person that came into mind and I've been waiting for this very reaction vid to come out lmao
The video IVE been waiting for weeks!
You are so knowledgable and have a fun personality. I enjoyed this video so much. Thank you. I guess i should subscribe.
YAYAYY You reacted to it!
what a great reaction. was looking forward to this one. cuz this mv and song is AMAZING.
Dance therapy was dopeee 🔥 brilliant reaction as always!
Did anyone realize that during this scene at 3:36 , they got the same color of their accessories (earrings , bracelets , necklaces) to their set color throughout the mv
wonyoung got red
leeseo got orange or maybe yellow (?)
liz got light blue
and the rest of it...
Yes. No one seems to notice those details
I have been waiting for this omg its finnaly here
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You're theory makes so much sense! I literally just thought it was there to look cool🤷♀
I like that I can still vibe with the music while you're doing a commentary
IM SO EARLY OMG WAS REALLY WAITING FOR YOUR REACTION!
bro their music video was sooo good. I was literally like " yup Jordan Orme would like this"
LOVE your theory❣ I never think of it
seeing ur entire deep dive is so great it makes the mv make sense
I was waiting for thisssss…. 🔥
I WAS WATING FOR THIS VIDEO SO MUCH. and now i'm so happy that a igot to see it. congratulations and thank you. i'm really liking the videos with more explaning. keep going. hugs.
YESSSSS BEEN WAITING