WoR, thus far out of the 4 out, Oathbringer is my least favorite, but Dalinar wasn't my fav. I DO think it's one of the best displays of utilizing flashbacks that I have ever seen.
I really liked the first. I just fell in love with the world and has the nostalgia over the others for me since it was the first introduction to everything.
The signs of Tefts addiction go back at least as far as ch. 31 of WOR, where Kaladin notices that Teft has disappeared after a patrol and asks Sigzil about his whereabouts. Later in ch.41 he asks Teft about it, and Teft gets somewhat defensive, refusing to meet Kaladins eye and asking if "he needs to tell Kal every little thing". This is setting the groundwork for his addiction arc in oathbringer. Its subtle but if you go back and read it you can see that there is something going on with Teft that he is ashamed of
Yeah I definitely missed it. That makes me happy that it was just me and not a random occurrence. Thanks for all the direct references and such, it helps me out a lot to hear from people who also read the series.
@@MrNarcotix I’m so relieved to be wrong! It makes me happy to know it was just me missing the hints and not an actual issue with the series. Thanks for the information!!
to add onto this there's also a reason it's not that big in the 1st 2 books then becomes a big thing in OB in WoK he doesn't have the funds, in WoR he starts getting back into it and it's not really a problem he's got the money but can mostly control it. In OB there's that one catalyst moment at the bottom of the tower that pushes him back over the edge into full blown addiction.
I listened to the Audio books for Stormlight back to back to back, and I totally saw the stuff with Teft coming, he is super down on himself throughout Way of Kings and Words of Radiance. It totally made since for me, him being broken is what allowed him to bond a spren, just like Kaladin. Anyway really like these videos keep up the great work.
Yeah it's definitely hinted at, but I didn't catch it until my 2nd re-read most of the time. Like in WoR he says that it's not good for him to have money to spend.
Oathbringer is definitely my favorite for the reason you've already said: Dalinar. Speaking of, SPOILERS (not too specific ones, but better safe than sorry) So I've noticed a bit of a trend of people disliking Dalinar because they view what he did as irredeemable. I find it to be an interesting opinion to have because the question of whether he is redeemed seems to be irrelevant to me, and honestly I think it would be irrelevant to Dalinar as well. I think to Dalinar, whether he can be redeemed is not his focus. His goal is now to be better than he was, regardless of what others think of him. At least from what I understood of his motivation. Funnily enough, I think the fact that he generates such a feeling of revulsion in some readers speaks to me that he's a great character, not a bad one. But Logen Ninefingers is also my favorite First Law character, so maybe I'm biased. Just curious if you had a take on it.
Yeah that's very much my take on it as well. Characters who bring out a genuine emotion, whether that be admiration or revulsion, are characters who have been very well done. I would even argue when a character can be THAT polarizing to so many people that the character is in the upper echelon. Reminds me of Walter White, my wife HATED him and I loved him, it's all about perspective!
The main subtle hints about Teft’s condition is him constantly saying that you can’t trust him as well as his frequent disappearances that start in WoR. Kal even asks him after he disappears after training Bridge 17. Teft dodges the question and Kal doesn’t really press him. The absences ramp up throughout WoR and Oathbringer until the climax.
This makes me happy that it's probably just that missed this subtle foreshadowing in WoR. I caught it all in OB but definitely didn't realize it in WoR. Thanks for the info!
@@thefantasynuttwork It was definitely hinted at multiple times. And that chapter had left me very emotional and i loved it because i can relate. I'm glad that Sando wrote that chapter. He is very good at representing human weaknesses.
Teft is basically not even a character before this “ailment “ is revealed. But afterwards, for me, he is a very recognizable person that forces the reader to reckon with some ideas. Also I will eat your dinner. Lyft is the shyt
I loved the bit with Teft and his “aliment” as someone who suffers from mental health issues and also an aliment similar to texts I connected and related to him so much more and to see him get the pay off he gets inspired me and helped me continue to fight the never ending battle that I have. It felt so real and believable and makes Roshar a bit more gritty
Thought the middle climax was more exciting than the ending. This sanderlanche just went on too long for me and I found myself skimming through a lot of the filler. Maybe it's because we know a lot about how most of the powers work and the fights start to get repetitive. Lash, cut, heal, repeat. I don't know. I've read the first three books plus Warbreaker and Edgedancer in the last two months. I love the characters and story, but maybe I need to give myself a break haha Also, Lift is growing on me......
Yeah I wish I had taken a break before books 3 and 4 tbh. I was extremely medium on RoW and after time my opinion on Oathbringer has slightly declined. I'm with you on once the mystique of how things work is gone you can start to feel fatigued by all of it.
Hey, great review as always. I won't comment on the teft stuff since it seems people have already changed your mind on it. (I really enjoyed Teft in this book, he felt ALIVE to me, but that's a discussion for another time.) I was wondering if you could give your thoughts on the conclusion of the love-triangle. A lot of people despised it just for existing, but I found the conclusion to be super satisfying (even if I was rooting for Kal-Shal). The scene when Kaladin is holding the rock, realizing the connections between Shallan and his brother, made soo much sense to me and left me feeling satisfied with that whole storyline. Since you didn't touch on it during the review, maybe you can give your 2 cents about it here? Thanks and have a nice day!
Hey Zver! Thanks for the well thought out comment, my mind has indeed been changed about Teft! This is one of the main reasons I love doing reviews on here, it usually leads to me learning a lot from the people who watch haha. I LOVED the end of the love triangle. When it first became obvious we were gonna get a love triangle I was soooo nervous/apprehensive because Sanderson had a love triangle in Mistborn that I thought was just downright dreadful. However he subverted all my worries and came through. I thought it made a lot of sense and it’s relieving to see a more calm approach to solving that internal, romantic conflict. So ya, huge fan of that and also think it’s a nod to how much Sanderson has improved. He has a lot more range than some would think.
So I finished Oathbringer recently and while I did like It didn't hit as hard for me like Words of Radiance or The Way of Kings did I love Dalinars character and his flashbacks but It was a grind for me to get past this book. I felt like during the middle of the book that they were at a certain place for a little to long and It dragged but It paid off In the end I'm excited for Rhythm of War but some people say It's the weakest of the series so I'm hoping for the best.
I really liked all the books in this series and I did like the climax but I thought this climax especially w Dalinars parts was a bit too Marvel-esque for me. I'm surprised you hate Lift so much!! XD I love her and I've reread Edgedancer a few times bcus its so short. Teft didn't bother me too much but I can see it.
I'm not quite done with Rhythm of War yet, but I still think so far that Oathbringer is the weakest. It has great moments but it was sort of hard to follow and started to collapse under its weight
In retrospect, and being able to calm down about the books I actually think OB has some glaring issues, even though I do love the Dalinar stuff. RoW was a mixed bag for me
I love that you mentioned the double climax in this book (spoilers below) The climax in Kholinar was even a bit better for me than the Thaylen City climax. Really the whole Kholinar arc was just fantastic and I loved the eerie mystique of the city. Kaladin's perspective of the events as everything comes crashing down and they escape into Shadesmar... chills. But I must admit that the Thaylen City climax was incredibly well executed for complex a scene it was -- he weaved 5+ POVs together so seamlessly.
What annoyed me was Kaladin having his dark moment in Kholinar it seemed random and unbelievable for his character and for the stakes at the height that they were at and it being in the middle of a war for him to do what he did annoyed me so much I couldn’t even appreciate the moment with Moash seconds after.
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Out of the three so far, which is your favorite Stormlight Archive book?
WoR, thus far out of the 4 out, Oathbringer is my least favorite, but Dalinar wasn't my fav. I DO think it's one of the best displays of utilizing flashbacks that I have ever seen.
@@Mjstcblnde I really enjoyed Dalinars flashbacks. After all this time I think WoR and WoK are tied for my favorite
I really liked the first. I just fell in love with the world and has the nostalgia over the others for me since it was the first introduction to everything.
My favorite book in the series is words of radiance 🙂👍💯
The signs of Tefts addiction go back at least as far as ch. 31 of WOR, where Kaladin notices that Teft has disappeared after a patrol and asks Sigzil about his whereabouts. Later in ch.41 he asks Teft about it, and Teft gets somewhat defensive, refusing to meet Kaladins eye and asking if "he needs to tell Kal every little thing". This is setting the groundwork for his addiction arc in oathbringer. Its subtle but if you go back and read it you can see that there is something going on with Teft that he is ashamed of
Yeah I definitely missed it. That makes me happy that it was just me and not a random occurrence. Thanks for all the direct references and such, it helps me out a lot to hear from people who also read the series.
@@thefantasynuttwork it also is hinted at that the reason teft is a bridge man is because he couldn't do his duties due to his addiction of fire moss.
@@MrNarcotix I’m so relieved to be wrong! It makes me happy to know it was just me missing the hints and not an actual issue with the series. Thanks for the information!!
he was made a bridgeman because of his addiction problems. It's hinted at in earlier books, but it's easy to miss
to add onto this there's also a reason it's not that big in the 1st 2 books then becomes a big thing in OB in WoK he doesn't have the funds, in WoR he starts getting back into it and it's not really a problem he's got the money but can mostly control it. In OB there's that one catalyst moment at the bottom of the tower that pushes him back over the edge into full blown addiction.
I listened to the Audio books for Stormlight back to back to back, and I totally saw the stuff with Teft coming, he is super down on himself throughout Way of Kings and Words of Radiance. It totally made since for me, him being broken is what allowed him to bond a spren, just like Kaladin. Anyway really like these videos keep up the great work.
Thank you!!
Yeah it's definitely hinted at, but I didn't catch it until my 2nd re-read most of the time. Like in WoR he says that it's not good for him to have money to spend.
OB has the longest and most epic Sanderlanche do date.
Agreeeeed
I just finished oathbringer and reread the first chapter of wok(the Szeth one). Just Wow. the number of characters that you recognize. Holy Kelek!
It's quite the journey isn't it!?
Well... Journey before Destination ;) Can't wait for the next part!
Oathbringer is definitely my favorite for the reason you've already said: Dalinar. Speaking of, SPOILERS (not too specific ones, but better safe than sorry)
So I've noticed a bit of a trend of people disliking Dalinar because they view what he did as irredeemable. I find it to be an interesting opinion to have because the question of whether he is redeemed seems to be irrelevant to me, and honestly I think it would be irrelevant to Dalinar as well. I think to Dalinar, whether he can be redeemed is not his focus. His goal is now to be better than he was, regardless of what others think of him. At least from what I understood of his motivation. Funnily enough, I think the fact that he generates such a feeling of revulsion in some readers speaks to me that he's a great character, not a bad one. But Logen Ninefingers is also my favorite First Law character, so maybe I'm biased. Just curious if you had a take on it.
Yeah that's very much my take on it as well. Characters who bring out a genuine emotion, whether that be admiration or revulsion, are characters who have been very well done. I would even argue when a character can be THAT polarizing to so many people that the character is in the upper echelon. Reminds me of Walter White, my wife HATED him and I loved him, it's all about perspective!
I like this take
I've been loving your Stormlight reviews. Glad you're caught up, Brandon said he'd be releasing Dawnshard at the end of October.
Thank you so much, means a lot!
I am reaaaaady for some Dawnshard!
The main subtle hints about Teft’s condition is him constantly saying that you can’t trust him as well as his frequent disappearances that start in WoR. Kal even asks him after he disappears after training Bridge 17. Teft dodges the question and Kal doesn’t really press him. The absences ramp up throughout WoR and Oathbringer until the climax.
This makes me happy that it's probably just that missed this subtle foreshadowing in WoR. I caught it all in OB but definitely didn't realize it in WoR.
Thanks for the info!
@@thefantasynuttwork It was definitely hinted at multiple times. And that chapter had left me very emotional and i loved it because i can relate. I'm glad that Sando wrote that chapter. He is very good at representing human weaknesses.
@@nicktankard1244 he sure is
As much as I LOVED Rythm of war, this one is still my favorite. That ending was so epic, I don't see it being topped by anything else for a while.
It was indeed epic!
Tefts condition was always subtley hinted at. The second book had a mention or two of teft missing duty from the addiction and a binge.
Yeah someone pointed it out to me, which I'm very thankful for. Had a feeling it was a me thing, I get it wrong sometimes haha
@@thefantasynuttwork I mean, it is subtle as hell and I missed it until my third re-read with Oathbringer tumbling around in my head
@@zachpayne3572 that makes me feel better tbh haha
Teft is basically not even a character before this “ailment “ is revealed. But afterwards, for me, he is a very recognizable person that forces the reader to reckon with some ideas.
Also I will eat your dinner. Lyft is the shyt
Hahaha
I loved the bit with Teft and his “aliment” as someone who suffers from mental health issues and also an aliment similar to texts I connected and related to him so much more and to see him get the pay off he gets inspired me and helped me continue to fight the never ending battle that I have. It felt so real and believable and makes Roshar a bit more gritty
It's always so good to have a character to connect with
Thought the middle climax was more exciting than the ending. This sanderlanche just went on too long for me and I found myself skimming through a lot of the filler. Maybe it's because we know a lot about how most of the powers work and the fights start to get repetitive. Lash, cut, heal, repeat.
I don't know. I've read the first three books plus Warbreaker and Edgedancer in the last two months. I love the characters and story, but maybe I need to give myself a break haha
Also, Lift is growing on me......
Yeah I wish I had taken a break before books 3 and 4 tbh. I was extremely medium on RoW and after time my opinion on Oathbringer has slightly declined. I'm with you on once the mystique of how things work is gone you can start to feel fatigued by all of it.
Hey, great review as always. I won't comment on the teft stuff since it seems people have already changed your mind on it. (I really enjoyed Teft in this book, he felt ALIVE to me, but that's a discussion for another time.)
I was wondering if you could give your thoughts on the conclusion of the love-triangle. A lot of people despised it just for existing, but I found the conclusion to be super satisfying (even if I was rooting for Kal-Shal). The scene when Kaladin is holding the rock, realizing the connections between Shallan and his brother, made soo much sense to me and left me feeling satisfied with that whole storyline.
Since you didn't touch on it during the review, maybe you can give your 2 cents about it here? Thanks and have a nice day!
Hey Zver!
Thanks for the well thought out comment, my mind has indeed been changed about Teft! This is one of the main reasons I love doing reviews on here, it usually leads to me learning a lot from the people who watch haha.
I LOVED the end of the love triangle. When it first became obvious we were gonna get a love triangle I was soooo nervous/apprehensive because Sanderson had a love triangle in Mistborn that I thought was just downright dreadful. However he subverted all my worries and came through. I thought it made a lot of sense and it’s relieving to see a more calm approach to solving that internal, romantic conflict. So ya, huge fan of that and also think it’s a nod to how much Sanderson has improved. He has a lot more range than some would think.
@@thefantasynuttwork Thanks for the reply man, i concur.
And ye, that Mistborn triangle was a garbage heap. :D
@@9Jov it sure was 😂😂😂
So I finished Oathbringer recently and while I did like It didn't hit as hard for me like Words of Radiance or The Way of Kings did I love Dalinars character and his flashbacks but It was a grind for me to get past this book. I felt like during the middle of the book that they were at a certain place for a little to long and It dragged but It paid off In the end I'm excited for Rhythm of War but some people say It's the weakest of the series so I'm hoping for the best.
I'm 1/3 through Words of Radiance. Didn't know Oathbringer was focusing on Dalinar now im excited.
Oh ya! It's great
the stache is lit!
My wife disagrees 🤣
Came here to see the bun and stache. Wasn’t disappointed. Lol.
HAHAHA
You cannot have my pain
Gasoline line 🔥🔥🔥
I really liked all the books in this series and I did like the climax but I thought this climax especially w Dalinars parts was a bit too Marvel-esque for me.
I'm surprised you hate Lift so much!! XD I love her and I've reread Edgedancer a few times bcus its so short. Teft didn't bother me too much but I can see it.
I've lessened my dislike for Lift since this video, she's alright lol
Will be reading this book in may just finished words of radiance can't wait to continue the series 😊☺️🙂😏
Its a good one!
I'm 10 months late but have you found the link to warbreaker yet? Great series of reviews, btw. I subscribed.
Yep! And also thank you!
usually action sequences dont hit for me, but the both i loved reading both sanderlanches here.
It's truly epic in this book!!
Listen to it on graphic audio, avengers endgame vibes
🤘🤘🤘🤘
I give it a 7.2 / 10
I love Shallan
🤗
Teft was definitely very very hinted at in books 1 and 2?
I've been corrected since, I noted I definitely could have missed it as well.
I did enjoy oathbringer but the book was really slow unlike with way of kings and words of radiance
It has some real pacing issues
Oathingbringer is TOO good. It's so damn good, that Rhythm of War seems pale in comparison.
I agree completely
I'm not quite done with Rhythm of War yet, but I still think so far that Oathbringer is the weakest. It has great moments but it was sort of hard to follow and started to collapse under its weight
In retrospect, and being able to calm down about the books I actually think OB has some glaring issues, even though I do love the Dalinar stuff. RoW was a mixed bag for me
Dalinar💕
The friggin man!
My twin sister and i love him so much! Absolutely the best character..he wasn't in much of rhythm of war 😞
I love that you mentioned the double climax in this book (spoilers below)
The climax in Kholinar was even a bit better for me than the Thaylen City climax. Really the whole Kholinar arc was just fantastic and I loved the eerie mystique of the city. Kaladin's perspective of the events as everything comes crashing down and they escape into Shadesmar... chills. But I must admit that the Thaylen City climax was incredibly well executed for complex a scene it was -- he weaved 5+ POVs together so seamlessly.
It was a tall task to end all of it. Really felt like 2-3 separate books in one
Cool reviews.
Thanks!!
You said Stephen King is becoming a fav author, I ask you this what is your top 3 SK books right now? And top 3 authors ?
3. Stand
2. Pet Semetary
1. 11/22/63
@@thefantasynuttwork nice!! And fav authors are GRMM,Robin Hobb,Stephen King??!
@@irishknight6893 sounds about right
@@thefantasynuttwork wohoo 🙌🏻 wish you did review of whole live ship trilogy,tawny man spoiler free reviews like you did for farseer trilogy:/
@@irishknight6893 it was better for me to do them as separate videos, sorry about that
What annoyed me was Kaladin having his dark moment in Kholinar it seemed random and unbelievable for his character and for the stakes at the height that they were at and it being in the middle of a war for him to do what he did annoyed me so much I couldn’t even appreciate the moment with Moash seconds after.
Ta-ra-van-jan
Thanks 🤣🤣
bring back the mustache
Apparently I had the the same thought two years ago
@@demidrek-heyward 😆