You could read it like that, but the Cataphract mission explains it much more clearly. You stole the "Raven" mercenary license, and the PCA trains on simulator data of the pilots they're targeting. Since you stole the license, your training data doesn't match up with the data they'd expect from training. There's a few other places in the game where you run into similar dialog about you not actually being Raven.
@@MKmaki6094 I mean they probably don't have AllMind to give them the Arena so they are reliant on their defeated pilot's data for training. Imagine if you were able to beat someone in VR, get sent on a mission to beat that person, and a completely different guy shows up and gives you trouble. It'd probably be pretty scary considering they can't just "retry" like we can.
Yeah, I know it's main use is shooting targets from below with that laser cannon, but they really give those ships a very obvious and large weak spot and barely any armor for some reason
@@blastmole299Normally they'd be covered by other PCA craft. The first time you take one down you need to deal with the LCs prior. Then you destroy a bunch of them that are docked and mostly defenseless and immediately after two more show up but their ground forces have already been decimated. They stand no chance in the mission where you have infinite energy and additionally there's no ground forces whatsoever.
@@gaunterodimm5974Well there's a lot of PCA that's piloted by AI. Also when you dead the description of PCA parts it says that they are designed to take as little input from humans as possible
Presumably, the Enforcement System of the Planetary Closure Administration promotes based on ability to obey and neither act upon or display emotion. It's been fifty years since the fires, these people likely grew up within a system selecting for such traits. I am more impressed with how the regular line soldiers are so capable of belting out the codes while dying, that suggests horrifying things about what their culture is like. It also explains why the PCA implodes after the Enforcement System is destroyed in Depth 3. The entire core of their command and culture is just, gone. It'd be like the sun going out or Earth's Moon vanishing.
From Wikipedia: "The ekdromoi were an ancient Greek light hoplites. The name means 'out-runners', and denotes their ability to exit the phalanx and fight in an irregular order, as the situation might demand. The ekdromoi were mostly lightly armoured (with aspis and bronze helmet) fast infantry and were armed with spear and short sword. The term would actually describe any hoplite who practiced the tactic of ekdrome, that is the irregular exit from the battle line."
Now that we got where the word come from it made sense, Autonomous Craft and a PCA Subject Guard are made to protect PCA Territory only. They are the Phalanx, EKDROMOI EP on the other hand are PCA SP Craft made to hunt down High on the list target even outside PCA land of Jurisdiction, as if "Fighting outside the Formation" From Software you damn son of a gun.
i think it kinda makes sense judging how they fight, replaying with no OS tunnning+manual aim i realized they have tandem combos with one of them going in to attack(1 is the one with the plasma cannon will jump and do a charged shot while the one with the laser blade plungs you at the same time, the second one is the one with the plasma gun asault boost into you for a kick that does a mini stagger then the other plungs you after the stagger) little discovery bcs i didnt realized in my playthroughs
As someone with sensory issues, I really appreciate you making these. It's near impossible to pay attention to these mid mission, and I don't want to watch a full story analysis and get spoiled.
I don’t have sensory issues per say but my brain tends to hyper focus on one thing, especially when there’s so much going around so I tend to only focus on the most important thing in the moment so I only end up hearing like 60% of the dialogue on a first play through. If I try to focus on the dialogue aswell, I end up hyper focusing on that instead and get demolished because I forgot I was in a fight 💀
Most likely might be DLC as the ekdromoi isn't much larger than an ac. Tbh it's slightly bigger than the largest ac you can build. If we do get those they might be the first cores that operate like tank legs in that they remove the option for head units.
@@albertwesker295 They're like one and a half times the height and proportionally bulkier, mixing and matching would look pretty silly. But also story-wise the PCA craft don't HAVE parts the way ACs do, they're manufactured from the ground up as a whole machine.
For real, the Sargents mech looked so sleek while blazing in, these two and the cataphract r my fav PCA bosses/ units. that and their light MTs because they remind me of the NEVEC VS’s from Lost Planet 👍🗿
@@scout-1728 the one PCA mech looks like a SR-71 blackbird, and the other commanders ACs look so cool. Im real sad we didnt get any PCA AC parts because they all had unique designs.
Absolutely loving this channel because apparently I don't have the focus to hear this the first time around, nor the patience to bait it out afterwards.
I don't get why Ayre asks you if you had an encounter with the PCA before when she was literally there when you fought BALTEUS, a PCA autonomous craft...
Because it's an Autonomous Craft and a PCA Subject Guard. They were designed to guard PCA Territory only, so it's made sense for them to attack you because you're the intruder to their border. While EKDROMOI EP are PCA SP Craft, which are only deployed to hunt down high on the list target even outside PCA Land of Jurisdiction, and the PCA officer keep speaking of Raven as if he was their long time sworn enemy, which is true for the other Raven [Nightfall]. Which the information is not known by both Ayre, 621 and even Walter.
@@kevo300yes, raven(nightfall) is the one that leaked info about coral on rubicon which brought balam and arquebus there in the first place, the pca were keeping watch of rubicon and raven fucked it up, apparently by stealing their info directly
I assume it's because she's not aware of the length of your past, she's aware of when the two of you made contact, anything past that she'd never really know unless it was logged somewhere.
i swear for the life of me there was a trailer showing an AC with a giant jet pack strapped behind it like the PCA, wish there was a mission or a chest piece like it with extra boost to it.
"Code 44. Requesting intelligence review. Observations found to contradict briefing"
They literally say skill issue lmao
You could read it like that, but the Cataphract mission explains it much more clearly. You stole the "Raven" mercenary license, and the PCA trains on simulator data of the pilots they're targeting. Since you stole the license, your training data doesn't match up with the data they'd expect from training. There's a few other places in the game where you run into similar dialog about you not actually being Raven.
@@alexlowe2054 exactly, it's like they expected more of a challenge lol
@@MKmaki6094 I mean they probably don't have AllMind to give them the Arena so they are reliant on their defeated pilot's data for training. Imagine if you were able to beat someone in VR, get sent on a mission to beat that person, and a completely different guy shows up and gives you trouble. It'd probably be pretty scary considering they can't just "retry" like we can.
I love dunking on the space police. Also love how almost all their other tech is a million times tougher than their paper warships.
Yeah, I know it's main use is shooting targets from below with that laser cannon, but they really give those ships a very obvious and large weak spot and barely any armor for some reason
@@blastmole299Normally they'd be covered by other PCA craft. The first time you take one down you need to deal with the LCs prior. Then you destroy a bunch of them that are docked and mostly defenseless and immediately after two more show up but their ground forces have already been decimated. They stand no chance in the mission where you have infinite energy and additionally there's no ground forces whatsoever.
Seems the ships are just oversized and over armed APCs geared for surface police action.
@blastmole299 welcome to the universes of Gundam in regards to that
I think it's a usual mecha trope. Even the cheapest grunts in Gundam might outlive warships in a fight.
I wonder why some of the pca act so clinical even in the middle of dying. Could use more lore on these guys
I mean they are governmental special forces
@trashman8080 who also take their orders from AI. That's the biggest explanation. The entire PCA is like skynet but if skynet employs willing humans
@@gaunterodimm5974Well there's a lot of PCA that's piloted by AI. Also when you dead the description of PCA parts it says that they are designed to take as little input from humans as possible
The codes they read out are sent directly to their AI leader, the System.
Presumably, the Enforcement System of the Planetary Closure Administration promotes based on ability to obey and neither act upon or display emotion. It's been fifty years since the fires, these people likely grew up within a system selecting for such traits. I am more impressed with how the regular line soldiers are so capable of belting out the codes while dying, that suggests horrifying things about what their culture is like.
It also explains why the PCA implodes after the Enforcement System is destroyed in Depth 3. The entire core of their command and culture is just, gone. It'd be like the sun going out or Earth's Moon vanishing.
From Wikipedia:
"The ekdromoi were an ancient Greek light hoplites. The name means 'out-runners', and denotes their ability to exit the phalanx and fight in an irregular order, as the situation might demand. The ekdromoi were mostly lightly armoured (with aspis and bronze helmet) fast infantry and were armed with spear and short sword. The term would actually describe any hoplite who practiced the tactic of ekdrome, that is the irregular exit from the battle line."
Now that we got where the word come from it made sense, Autonomous Craft and a PCA Subject Guard are made to protect PCA Territory only. They are the Phalanx, EKDROMOI EP on the other hand are PCA SP Craft made to hunt down High on the list target even outside PCA land of Jurisdiction, as if "Fighting outside the Formation"
From Software you damn son of a gun.
Nice info
i think it kinda makes sense judging how they fight, replaying with no OS tunnning+manual aim i realized they have tandem combos with one of them going in to attack(1 is the one with the plasma cannon will jump and do a charged shot while the one with the laser blade plungs you at the same time, the second one is the one with the plasma gun asault boost into you for a kick that does a mini stagger then the other plungs you after the stagger) little discovery bcs i didnt realized in my playthroughs
I appreciate you taking the time to see all this dialogue! One of these guys tends to go down so fast I never got to hear it all.
As someone with sensory issues, I really appreciate you making these. It's near impossible to pay attention to these mid mission, and I don't want to watch a full story analysis and get spoiled.
I don’t have sensory issues per say but my brain tends to hyper focus on one thing, especially when there’s so much going around so I tend to only focus on the most important thing in the moment so I only end up hearing like 60% of the dialogue on a first play through. If I try to focus on the dialogue aswell, I end up hyper focusing on that instead and get demolished because I forgot I was in a fight 💀
Well, I mean, I'm not a doctor, but that is exactly what it's like for me.
Man I wish we could have gotten PCA weapons or core parts 😢
Yeah, they look so cool
Most likely might be DLC as the ekdromoi isn't much larger than an ac. Tbh it's slightly bigger than the largest ac you can build.
If we do get those they might be the first cores that operate like tank legs in that they remove the option for head units.
bro the ekdromoi core goes so fucking hard
@@albertwesker295
They're like one and a half times the height and proportionally bulkier, mixing and matching would look pretty silly. But also story-wise the PCA craft don't HAVE parts the way ACs do, they're manufactured from the ground up as a whole machine.
Aren't the late-game Arquebus parts stated to be built on improved PCA data?
For getting bullied by everyone, the PCA knows how to pull up 😎
For real, the Sargents mech looked so sleek while blazing in, these two and the cataphract r my fav PCA bosses/ units. that and their light MTs because they remind me of the NEVEC VS’s from Lost Planet 👍🗿
@@scout-1728 the one PCA mech looks like a SR-71 blackbird, and the other commanders ACs look so cool. Im real sad we didnt get any PCA AC parts because they all had unique designs.
These guys give me a cop duo feel from their cutscene, sad that they sort of are emotionless.
Thats how it felt I agree
These are the coolest looking mechs imo, wish I could drive them
code 23 attending video
Absolutely loving this channel because apparently I don't have the focus to hear this the first time around, nor the patience to bait it out afterwards.
Love that Nu gundam color pattern ❤
Thank you for this its infuriating to find little to no dialogue files.
That or i’m blind.
I don't get why Ayre asks you if you had an encounter with the PCA before when she was literally there when you fought BALTEUS, a PCA autonomous craft...
Because it's an Autonomous Craft and a PCA Subject Guard. They were designed to guard PCA Territory only, so it's made sense for them to attack you because you're the intruder to their border. While EKDROMOI EP are PCA SP Craft, which are only deployed to hunt down high on the list target even outside PCA Land of Jurisdiction, and the PCA officer keep speaking of Raven as if he was their long time sworn enemy, which is true for the other Raven [Nightfall].
Which the information is not known by both Ayre, 621 and even Walter.
@@huanpalyama9350 are you sure its because of nightfall raven? I just thought its because the system gave them a verdict to elimate 621.
@@kevo300absolutely later when fighting the Cataphract the pilot say “I don’t know who this is but it isn’t Raven.”
@@kevo300yes, raven(nightfall) is the one that leaked info about coral on rubicon which brought balam and arquebus there in the first place, the pca were keeping watch of rubicon and raven fucked it up, apparently by stealing their info directly
I assume it's because she's not aware of the length of your past, she's aware of when the two of you made contact, anything past that she'd never really know unless it was logged somewhere.
as much i want to play AC…i wanna try using the LC and HC from the PCA, the manuever of the LC first lieutenant is incredible
i wanna play as the close range one sooo bad, such a missed opportunity for a great boss
i swear for the life of me there was a trailer showing an AC with a giant jet pack strapped behind it like the PCA, wish there was a mission or a chest piece like it with extra boost to it.
Really?
I think it's the trailer with White Glint in Armored core For Answer
2:13 and 2:31
Same line, but what a tone difference!!
No one talking about how one of them stays in character until his last dying breath lol.
Anyone know the name of the song that plays when they arrive?
I kinda wish we could unlock some pca parts for our ACs.
What generator are you using to equip two needle launchers? On such a lightweight build?
What build is that big dog